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This shit is getting better and better.
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Gotenks?
YISSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>134135904

And Ginew is confirmed to show up on the next episode
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>>134136179

>Ginyu was on planet Namek as a frog while it blew up

They better have a darn good reason and comedic explanation/story behind this, or i'll be pissed.
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>>134136309

He was teleported to Earth when Dende wished "teleport everybody EXCEPT GOKU AND FRIEZA".

Even you can see him jumping around.
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KamiFS subs when?
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>>134134196
>My dick! Why did he headbutt me in my dick!
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>>134136567
>tfw even BR subs are faster than english subs
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>>134136567
Jesus gringos,, git gud.
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>>134134196
>HE KEEPS PUNCHING ME IN THE DICK!
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I just read a bit of the new Super chapter and I feel like we're on ridiculous territory. Fat Beerus fully just blew up a planet with a kick.
I feel like we've made jokes about shit like this.
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>>134134196
This has more in common with Dragonball then Dragonball Z, which is awesome
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>>134142185
That is amlow showing for them considering Goku and Beerus punches were reverberating throughout the entire universe.
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feels good to be a vegetafag tbqh

who /#1andundefeatedvsgoku/ here?
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If I watched from the start of dragonball until dropping dbz halfway through the cell saga could I get into super?
It seems to be more like dragon ball
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>>134144574
man imagine having to consciously think to not step too hard when walking because you could blow up the planet

sounds like a great sol anime story too
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>>134142185
Master Roshi blew up the moon.
What the fuck were you expecting?
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>>134136309
>>Even SPEEDREAD is afraid!
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>>134142185
I still don't know how this can continue without the universe being destroyed
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>>134146787
12 universes ark.
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>>134146787
Goku/Vegeta will probably learn how to nullify energy like Beerus did to prevent the universe from blowing up
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>>134142185
He had real thunder thighs.
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>>134146987
Or keep their energies inside their body while fighting, no leakage - no accidental destruction, I guess.
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WHAT THE FUCK

SINCE WHEN DOES BULMA HAVE AN ONEE-CHAN?
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>>134148248
Since Jaco's manga.
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>>134148367
wut
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>>134148396
read the fucking mango, newfag
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>>134148822
Know where I can get it for free? They seemed to have cracked down on online copies. I can only find "chapter 1 previews".
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>>134148893
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=read+jaco+manga+online
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>>134148893
I downloaded it a while ago from somewhere that's probably been taken down by now. Try reverse image searching this picture.
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>>134148962
> this works but "jaco+the+galactic+patrolman+manga+read+online" doesn't bring up anything

huh..
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>>134148893
Dragon Ball (Akira Toriyama)
https://bakabt.me/torrent/181035/dragon-ball-scans

Dragon Ball Full Color - Saiyan Arc (Akira Toriyama)
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=643757

Jaco the Galactic Patrolman (Akira Toriyama)
https://userscloud.com/zn117t2wxzru/Jaco_the_Galactic_Patrolman_v1_(2015)_(Digital)_(BlackManta-Empire).cbr

Dragon Ball Super
https://dragonteam.ninja/
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>>134136309
Captain Ginyu is clearly shown on Earth. We even see Bulma being surprised he's on Earth and she kicks him into the air. Later we see Ginyu frog at Capsule corp.

I also think we see Ginyu frog on top of Yamcha's head when he gets wished back and falls into the fountain.
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>>134149449
Frog Ginyu isn't shown on Earth in the manga but there's no real reason the wish couldn't include him.
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Wow so I had no idea where Jaco came from, but now I do.
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>>134150355
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>that krillin bullying until he realizes hes fighting a crew of raditz tier plebs and finally feels like he has power
>Gohan getting absolutely decimated for the love of god make him get back to training after this to protect his daughter instead of being this nerd fuck
>Gotenks is showing up
>Ginyu shenanigans

I wasn't expecting DBS to get to the point where I'm actually hyped for it
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I absolutely love DBS and don't mind the Japanese voices, but I'm hoping Funimation gets rights to dub it soon. Would be cool to see it on Toonami as well.
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>>134136179
Is that a Ginyu for frogs?
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>>134150876
For the love of god bulma. If you had shit like this as a toddler what the fuck were you doing during DB?
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>>134136179
Why is he choosing to body swap Tagoma and still fuck up the hero's?
Why didn't he just swap with someone else up to this point?
Would he even still be evil or loyal to Frieza?
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I was really expecting Toei to shit on Krillin completely like they always do but they turned his doubt into a great moment.

I'm still not sure if I prefer this over the movie, but at least Sorbet gets to do something, and Gohan getting knocked out wasn't bullshit.
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>>134148962
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=read+jaco+manga+online

thx, mate
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>>134152536
if Bulma got that gun when she met Goku, hewould be dead
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>>134152884
I seriously doubt it
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so who is the guy Beerus is selecting? the person who is the strongest he's ever faced

probably Whis
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>>134153025
not whis.

He and his sister Vados are barred from the tourney.
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>>134150876
>tfw the old man is dead by now
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>>134153025
He specifically says it isn't whis, you retard. It's going to be somebody we don't know.

On a side note, I can't wait to see the Universe 6 saiyans Champa picks.
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>>134153248
>it's going to be Turles, Brolly, Raditz, Nappa, King Vegeta
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>>134153346
I hope it's not too many older characters and there's some new ones
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>>134153409
Gine?
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Ok, we get it, Freeza is special and can get absurdly strong in no time, but how about Tagoma? Did he really go from Zarbon-tier to fucking Buu-tier in only 4 months just because he got his ass beaten by Freeza a million times? It probably wasn't even any kind of special training, since Freeza has no training experience. Just training with someone strong makes you stronger?
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>>134134196

I wish the animators were actually decent. Toyo is killing it in the manga. DBZ Super animation makes the worst of the original DBZ cut look like a fucking masterpiece.
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>>134153502
I meant new characters, as in, never seen before.

>>134153526
Yes, that applies to real life as well. If you get used to taking a strong guy's punch, then you'll build up a higher pain tolerance faster.

Look up shocking your muscles, and you'll see it's a very valid way to get stronger.
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>>134152701

If you don't like the more then the movie there is no fucking helping you. Seriously, what the fuck man? The show goes into more detail and has more fun and action then the movies. Stop being a cynical manchild.
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>>134148248
doujins fucking when
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>>134153526
Because Toei/Toriyama don't know how to create conflict for the non Goku/Vegeta's characters. They can't fight Frieza, that's Goku's right. So give them an edgelord.
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>>134153580
Maybe when the Champa arc starts they will give DBS the Precure treatment since it's new content.
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>>134153734

See this post from this thread
>>134109768

>Get keked bitch. Fuck powerlevels and fuck Gohan. Who fucking cares? Tagoma trained with Frieza and now he's a threat. You are just showing your autism by being all

>MUH POWERLEVULHSSSS

> a goddamn dick you cocksmoking faggot.
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>>134153671
>Stop being a cynical manchild
Look who's talking. Did you get bored with the rest of your threads?
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>>134153797
Are you trying to be retarded ow what's your point?
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>>134153671
there are changes here and there from the movie, not all necessarily better, just drawn out more. So I'm pretty indifferent to the whole thing.

The RoF portion has been MUCH better than the BoG portion, though I'm still on the fence, mainly because RoF had way better fight choreography.

Though in terms of story, the Super is handling RoF much better, Goten and Trunks feeling the ki and heading into battle makes sense.
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>>134153797
Piccolo's face is all like

>god damn it Gohan you suck
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>>134146482
black bolt
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>>134153845

If the threads are still up, I'm still posting.
Rule #1: Never stop posting.
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>>134153946
Nice projection senpai
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>>134153871

Stop caring about

>OMG Tagoma is too stronk for 4 munths of training

Tagoma is a threat. It is a catalyst for a serious fight and there we go. Like, just move the fuck on and enjoy the fucking action.
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on a scale of nothing to infinity, how much better has Super gotten since i stopped watching around when beerus kicked the shit out of gotenks?
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>>134153346
>Brolly
MAN THESE FUCKING RETARDS.
Broly is not canon, Tori gives no shits about characters not created by himself.
>DBZ movie villain will resurrect
DURR BROLY
>DBS new saga is comming
DURR BROLY
>DBS new tournament
DURR BROLY

Fuck off
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>>134154152

Oodles better. Seriously, I don't know why anyone is upset. Beerus v. Goku is epic and has great choreography and tactics. The SoL episodes are spot on. And Resurrection F arc looks to be shaping up in a completely different direction the the movie. This is all new stuff. Come back on board.

>implying a DBZ fan stopped watching Super because reasons

You fool nobody anon.
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>>134154200
honestly I did, mostly because I missed one week's episode and then fell too far behind to continue watching. the current shit seems to be shaping up well. probably gonna try to catch up this week before next episode.
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>>134148248
Isn't Tights in her like early to mid 50s? She's doing better than Bulma at EoZ.
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>>134148893
>>134148396
>>134148248

fucking newfag. fuck outta here
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>>134136309
>>134136463
Didn't buu blow up the earth and they wished for only good people to be back. Unless somehow ginyu reformed while livingas a frog
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>>134154255

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QVAqreRbh0
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>>134154309
shit that kamehameha some DBZ-level music + animation
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>>134153025
>he's a normal human.
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>>134154262

Inherited their mom's genes.
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>>134154273
Porunga must not have considered Ginyu very evil.
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>>134154273
>>134154574
didn't buu just kill all the humans (and even then, he didn't do that right because tenshinhan was still alive)
ginyu was a frog
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>>134154619
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>>134154413

But it's in HD anon. So... it is empirically proven to NOT be DBZ level animation.
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>>134154713
Being HD has nothing to do with animation quality.
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>>134154754

I don't know how you can watch that and not think that is pretty fucking good.
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Imagine the zenkai boost Gohan got from that chest hole.
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>>134154713
the quality is quite high, but I meant more in terms of slick movement and animation, not just muh 1080p
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>>134154956
wouldn't be surprised if zenkai doesn't exist anymore
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>>134155011
I can't remember the last time it's mattered, it mattered up until the ginyu force was defeated then it just didn't do the job
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>>134155066
Cell tournament
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>>134155066
well yeah, isn't the zenkai boost always incremental? every saiyan is so goddamn strong it probably means nothing at this point
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>>134155101
It mattered for Cell but not the saiyans
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>>134134196

so much fan service going on this episode and next.

there are hints to gohans potential once again being unlocked during this episode and in the latest manga chapter.

the hype is too much. they made the best decision going into revival of F for the anime but not the manga aswell, that way it can be canon + filler for manga at the same time. they are handling this series correctly, i am no longer worried.
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>>134155489

You should never have been worried anon. Also, if Gohan is a jobber that's not the end of the fucking world.
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>>134134196
Meh, when are we going to get to the Champa arc?
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>>134155895

After Resurrection F. What's your fucking problem? Anti-fun?
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>>134155924
Calm down.
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>>134153797
>Get keked bitch. Fuck powerlevels and fuck Gohan. Who fucking cares? Tagoma trained with Frieza and now he's a threat. You are just showing your autism by being all

DBZ fans would defend fucking anything.
You know what, I wish an actual mary sue would show up in this series and beat up Goku and Vegeta and see you guys pop off with this bullshit anyway.
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>>134155958
>I wish an actual mary sue would show up in this series and beat up Goku and Vegeta
Whis and Beerus?
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>>134148248
wait, how is her onee-chan look younger than her?
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>>134155958
Not a Mary sue, but Beerus did exactly that.
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>>134134196
Not that he fucked anyone up (at least in this episode) but I already like what they're doing with Gohan a LOOOOOOOT better than what they did with him in the movie.
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>>134155958

I'm all on board with this anon. I'm tired of everyone circle jerking over power levels or "opponents not being realistic threats". They are threat because the characters perceive them as a threat. It's a fucking simple show. Stop over analyzing shit.
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>>134153502
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>>134134196

Why can't Toei do the old hyper fighting sequences that DBZ is known for anymore?
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>>134154574

ginyu is a mercenary, he isnt really evil.

also he was content living as a frog all this time, guess seeing freiza revived inspired him to finally change into someone else.
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>>134156299
Shitty fight choreography.
Shitty character designs.
Shitty pacing.
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>>134155782

it is if you are a gohan fan. what they did to him was completely unnecessary.
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>>134156491
I'm not a Gohanfag. I'm a Krillinfag so I've been smugging everywhere about his development and attention Toriyama lavishes on him.
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>>134156487
Yeah
Why can't Toei do that again?
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>>134156491
At least he got fleshed out in this episode. He was probably about to one shot that guy like in the movie.

And this time, he was actually cheap shotted and actually off guard, unlike Freeza in the movie who was literally right in front of him. It fucking caught me off guard. I was not expecting that.

And it was more dramatic this time around.

I'm anxious to see SSJ Gohan next episode.
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>>134156589

What are you talking about? The pacing is top notch and the show is moving along. Fights are meaty with plenty of attacks, lore, and not much screaming downtime between attacks. Also Beerus and Whis are awesome fucking character designs.

What the fuck do you retards want?
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i'm watching revival of f right now

what the fuck happened to toei? how was the animation in dbz god tier inb4 that trunks/cell tween compared to this? they just don't care anymore or were key people fired?
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>>134155011
>>134155066
Zenkai is more-or-less Tagoma's explanation for his gains.
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>>134156623

Yeah, seriously. Gohan wasn't just "one shotted". He was taken out like Goku was taken out in like the 5th episode of DBZ. By surprise and because Tagoma didn't give a shit about killing his own teammate to kill Gohan.

The reason is solid. It is worth killing his ally to kill to strongest opposing fighter. He just didn't count on the Senzu bean. Still though, it's not like Gohan took some stupid hit. These characters are not invincible. Strategy is going to play a part in these fights.
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Gohan is so completely pathetic it defies belief.
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>>134156673

What are you talking about? The animation is amazing in Super. Are you some super salty faggot neckbeard who can't just enjoy a fucking show if the production value isn't the same as an hour and a half multimillion dollar movie?
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>>134156732

I don't get how you can say that when he was brought down out of left field by an awesome and badass move. You must be some neckbeard self inserting Gohanfag to be upset at Gohan being brought down in a badass way like that.
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>>134156673
>how was the animation in dbz god tier
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>>134156768
Not at all. The surprise attack I don't have any real problems with and I actually thought it was a great twist compared to the movie.

Its the constant pussyfooting by Gohan and the rest of the fighters in not doing any killing at all.
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I wish they would give Yamcha some time to shine as well. If you accept filler, he's fought the Ginyu Force and won, and I'm pretty sure managed to at least briefly stalemate against a Cell Jr.
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>>134156807

Well, Frieza does call him out on it so Toriyama IS self away at their soft heartedness.
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>>134156736
why the fuck are you shilling so hard

super has objectively worse animation than the movie, and the movies animation is dogshit

>>134156774
for the most part yes, all of the fights were.
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>>134156836

Yeah, let's give the guy who literally got kucked by Vegeta more time to fight. Could Yamcha make triangles into fucking squares? No? So he should sit the fuck back and shut the fuck up. He hasn't been relevant since being killed by a goddamn Saibaman.
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>>134156160
I don't know, I'd be on board with the idea of throwing away the concept of consistency in power if it actually meant that the other characters got to do anything other than getting slapped around.
The problem is that the series itself already went well out of the way of trying to set up this kind of consistency years ago, and just tossing it out. Freeza was actually the strongest in the universe, and there aren't any more space adventures because he's dead and now Super Saiyan's exist, meaning there's no credible threat out there
Cell was created in a lab on earth, based on all of the strongest characters in the series
Buu was sealed away years ago, hidden underground.

None of these characters come from the same area or background. just to avoid that "but wait, there's another guy!"

This series has had years and upon years of building up power that we have several forms of what used to be a saiyan legend just because C needs to be as powerful as C or more powerful than B. Even with the actual power level numbers dropped, we get an idea of who is stronger than who just by whatever form they've taken on.
To show how serious the androids are, we have Trunks show up and literally cut Freeza into pieces.
Piccolo goes to fuse to Kami and takes on 17, while 18 had just finished breaking Vegeta's arm a few days ago.

It's not okay if we're okay with throwing it out to have a character show up just so the B-Team do the ol' ye jobbing routine again, and then bring up those powerlevels again to explain why we can't have anyone in the jobber squad do anything other than slap mooks around, and settle for them being in slice of life scenes.
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>>134156857

Obviously the animation is worse then the movie. It's a movie.

>movie's animation is dogshit

HOLY SHIT YOU EXPECT ME TO FALL FOR THAT BAIT ANON

Try harder you neckbeard lace curtain cocksmoking faggot. Seriously. Stop smelling your own farts because you must be high off your own fermenting feces if you think that the fight animations in Super OR the movies are bad.
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>>134156699
I don't get why there are so many Gohan haters.

If you hate him now because you're a Gohan fan, OK. But I don't get why Gohan is getting JUST threads, and when Goku got hit with this in the movie (not even by a fighter, BY A GUN), the only thing being talked about was him losing to Superman.

At least this was well written and doesn't necessarily say that Gohan has become THAT weak. He's still stronger than Piccolo (from the sounds of it, possibly even without going Super Saiyan as they call him the strongest before he even showed he could transform).

You can never make more than 50% of DBZ fans happy at any one time.

This is coming from a guy who has Gohan at #1 on his list of most beloved characters. This episode was WAY better than what happened in the movie and is acceptable.

>Acceptable

What will make me happy is if he beats this fucking guy in the next episode and gets into the third tournament in the 3rd Arc.

Like he was talking about in this episode, you can write him as fighting for his daughter and his family. He can be a nerd AND part time fighter who isn't a fucking knucklehead like Goku and Vegeta who literally don't do anything else.
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>>134154158
>believes in Dragon Ball """canon"""
>calls other people retards
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>>134156857
>a TV show has worse animation than a movie
Wow.
>and the movies animation is dogshit
b8
>for the most part yes, all of the fights were.
It got good every once in a while, but was average for the most part. Same as Super.
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>>134156649
He's talking about fast paced action....
Impact of the hits, craters exposing core of planets, fighting in suns, black holes, destroying solar systems, galaxies, universes just from transformations, impact of fights, blinding punches and kicks. Dodging so fast it looks like 70 gokus on the screen. Where's that action like kenshiros 1000 cracked fist lol?

At this point, cracking each knuckle while balling up their fist should destroy planets.

They should literally be able to move planets with their minds and crush goes lol.
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>>134156997
In Goku vs Beerus you had punches that threatened the universe.
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>>134156936

I'm less of a Gohan hater but more of a Gohanfag hater because Gohanfags literally are hyper-ventilating when he goes down to an enemy. It's fucking annoying, especially when he was taking out in a cool and surprising way.

I also didn't mind Goku being shot in the chest by a sneak attack. I like the idea that they could be brought down by the lowest of the low. That means if Goku can die to Sorbet, Frieza could die to Krillin.

That has HUGE implications.
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>>134156997
Toei draws like 500 less drawings for Dragon Ball Super than the average Dragon Ball Z episode, combined with the huge amount of anime they have to produce concurrently.
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>>134157036
Frieza isn't like a Saiyan. He has to be completely obliterated to kill him or else he'll survive.
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>>134156946
Not him but brolytards need to be gassed, at least once a month there's a clickbait video claiming that broly is going to be canon and they eat it up every time
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>>134156997

But that would be OP as fuck. The addressed the fact the Goku and Beerus' clash could destroy the universe by having them match each other's attacks perfectly. Good way to explain that. Awesome. I'm on board; let's move on with the fight.

People get too hung up on shit and can't enjoy an action anime like it SHOULD be enjoyed. Also, we have only have one real fight so far between two power opponents. We are literally 21 episodes in.

People need to calm the fuck down.
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>>134156487

>no more super fast punch and kick flurries
>no extreme display of collateral damage
>no smooth flow of moves between combatants

Where are the people who worked on Precure when you need them?
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>>134157148
Did you not watch the final two episodes of the Goku vs Beerus fight?
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>>134157036
Krillin cut off Freeza's tail. Goku got hurt by a hit to the head with a rock. Krillin shot a hole through Vegeta when he lowered his ki. Stuff like that has always been canon.

It's just the autists on /a/ who bitch about it.

I have no problem with Gohan getting a hole through his stomach. It caught me off guard. The writers did their job.

To me, there's no problem with Gohan losing (he lost ALL THE TIME in DBZ). The difference is that that was the whole point. It was good writing, Gohan never being able to help his friends and family, having all that frustration and desperation boil up inside him.

I have no problem with Gohan losing so long as it leads somewhere.
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>>134156984
thats BOG not revival of f you retard

>>134156934
literally a bigger shill than daiz, sasuga redditor.
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>>134157197
>Moving goalposts this hard
Fucking hang yourself.
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>>134156889
One of the things they first mentioned about DBZ Super is that they were going to try to give Vegeta more focus and have him doing less jobbing, even though. he's probably had more fights and victories than the main character of the series. People complained about him being the number two guy, well it's a pretty comfortable position for the most part, and outside of the movies, if he's getting beaten up, nobody else really stands a chance anyway, and even with those movies those are less than more.

The only fight that "mattered" that Goku won by himself was in DBZ against Freeza. Goku was hardly any more effective than him, even in the Buu Saga.

But now that Vegeta is safely out of that zone, now the idea is that everyone else just has to settle for the ol' rotuine of getting punched in the face by villains, and to be glad that the series is even giving them any time in a slice of life scene. I'm sure people wouldn't be happy if Vegeta's only other moments of him cooking eggs was him getting blasted by Freeza again.

You know who one of my favorite characters is? Tao Pai Pai.
But you know what, I wouldn't want to see Tao Pai Pai beating the shit out of Piccolo unless there's a really, really, REALLY good explanation or something out of a video game.

People run with the "it's a gag series!" excuse a bit too hard, even though, Dragonball, where it had told jokes like Jackie Chun blowing up the moon instead of Goku had some sort of consistency within itself.

I don't like being told to accept that it's okay for random fuckhead to beat the shit out of Piccolo, even though it makes no sense, while the idea of someone doing that to Goku and now Vegeta is completely unacceptable.
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>>134157236
>using buzzwords incorrectly

i said i'm watching revival of f, you post a webm from a different movie.

fuck off back to /r/anime you mouthbreather
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>>134150355
>>134150876
KID BLUMA A CUTE
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>>134157197

Literally a bigger fisherman then Captain fucking Ahab.
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>>134157197
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>>134157278
>the movies animation is dogshit
>movies
>s
Anyways, keep nostalgiafagging over show you haven't watched for ten years.
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>>134157325
>this is considered good animation

are you kidding? the dbz (tv series mind you, not a movie or ova) goku vs frieza fight when he had first turned final form were better animated than any piece of this entire movie.

are you people fucking blind?
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>>134157197

you must be legit retarded. BoG and Revival of F was praised for its animation quality. its ONLY criticism was over use of CGI in certain parts in BoG, which it toned down for in revival of f.
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>>134157384

we are not blind, you are just legit retarded.
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>>134153759

Source?
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>>134157384
You have to understand that the only things these people watch are One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, and Dragonball. With that low of a bar being set, that animation must seem godly.
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>>134157442
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Why the hell was Krillin even afraid of Freeza's throwaway jobbers when he should have been able to gauge their power levels with no problem?
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>>134157536
forced pointless drama.
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>>134157404
>literally stills
>foot wraps around that guys neck at head level without gohan moving
>mouth zoom
>level 1 shading
>ctrl+t dragging at 0:07
>gohan animated worse than denpa kyoushi

this has to be b8, have you people seen less than 20 anime in your entire lives?

>>134157427
>>134157401
>>134157372
>>134157325
>>134157313
>>134157236
>>134156984
>>134156934
>>134156774
>>134156736
>>134156649
if these aren't the same person than they are all from reddit at the bare minimum
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>>134145028
Well you'd miss out on some of the fun of things like Vegeta's interaction with his family members, Gohans transformation into jobber status, fusion like Gotenks, Majin Buu in general, Mr. Satan character development, etc.

I'd say you should watch the Kai versions of both Cell Saga and Buu Saga.

Kai Buu Saga is roughly 50 episodes and Kai Cell Saga even shorter than that.
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>>134157384
>the dbz goku vs frieza fight when he had first turned final form were better animated than any piece of this entire movie.
Please refer to >>134156774
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>>134157438

Seriously? Are you people trying to compare Super 's animation values to some bullshit 16 episode anime like Claymore or something? Just eat a dick.
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>>134157551
Yeah, it looked like he was having fun fighting them with Jaco.
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>>134157551

>pointless
Wow, keep staying salty. No fun allowed with you.
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>>134157553
>this mad
>r-reddit!
You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>134157571
We are talking about the movies kiddo.
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>>134157561
>told exactly where in the series to look
>jump ahead to the end of the fight where he had been final form for 20 episodes already

?????
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>>134157553

Four of those posts you mentioned are from me. The others are from others who agree that your pants on head fucking retarded.

>seen less than 20 anime in your entire lives

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPARING THIS SHOW TO?

Seriously. The movie's animation and the shows animation is perfectly fine and is better in my opinion then the majority of DBZ. You can't compare this show to come 16 episode series like Akame ga Kill, Kill la Kill, Claymore, etc.

They have more money to spend per episode and the studio is only making THAT anime at a time. Toei is making multiple anime. Seriously. Do you bitch about One Piece as much as Super? Because people love One Piece and it looks like dog shit compared to Super.
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>>134157036
>I'm less of a Gohan hater but more of a Gohanfag hater because Gohanfags literally are hyper-ventilating when he goes down to an enemy. It's fucking annoying, especially when he was taking out in a cool and surprising way.

Gohan getting beaten up isn't something alien to this series. Outside of the rare occasion of him powering up every now and then to challenge X foe, it took up until Cell for Gohan to come out the victor in a fight that actually mattered.
He got his neck broken by Recoome, you don't see people bitching about that.They already established that not even Vegeta could stand up to him, we knew he was going to lose, but it made for half-decent dramatic tension of him trying anyway. Gohan vs Vegeta is one of my favorite fights in the series, even though against an injured Vegeta, he didn't stand a chance. Vegeta was going to finish him off until Krillin threw the Spirit Bomb at him.
He gets blasted by Fat Buu so hard that everyone thought he was fucking dead.
Gohan and loss aren't strangers.

I mean, I wasn't happy wih Gohan losing to Super Buu, but it at least acknowledges the idea that Buu using what little brain power he has to get the upperhand, even if it's just to extend the series for a bit longer.. If you want to talk about a "clever loss", then there you go.

The problem is that Gohan already made his transition from kind-of-useful support into a fighter in his own right, and now specifically because they don't know else what to do with him, it's back to the bus with the jobber squad. This is literally what GT was doing to everyone else, but somehow this is special and different, and if you don't like it, you're just a fan of the big mary sue Gohan.

I wasn't expecting Gohan to take down Freeza back then, and I'm not expecting it now. I just want him to be able to do SOMETHING sand now me asking for something that wouldn't have been alien in the Namek era is asking for too much.
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Why is everyone who aren't Goku and Vegeta practically shown to be at the same power levels now?
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>>134157812
They only exist to pad out time by beating fodder and make villains seem threatening.
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>>134154574
Ginyu was a pretty cool guy aside form being on Frieza's payroll.
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>>134157812
Because it doesn't matter what they do anymore, because they'll get beat up by the guy in one or two hits anyway.

This what GT did, but, hey, it's Super, so it's better.
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>>134158084
b-but toriyama
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>>134148248
Wait, according to the Dragon Ball wiki, the year is 779 and she was born in 720.

She doesn't look 59.
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>>134158236
This is her mother.

When the lady is 60 years old.
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I don't even dislike Super/the modern movies' animation, I just somewhat prefer the hand-drawn aesthetic that the previous ones have.

>>134158236
Their calendar could be faster than ours.
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>>134158301
Now post her as she is in Super.
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>>134158301
And this is her mother trying to get in Goku's pants.
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>>134157148
>no more super fast punch and kick flurries
>no smooth flow of moves between combatants
So you're just not watching this show at all right? That was pretty much all the last couple of episodes of the Goku/Beerus fight
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>>134158394
>teleporting stills

stop please
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>>134158368
Barely more than a thumbnail, but this is how she looked in Battle of Gods, apparently.
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>>134158526
That's not Battle of Gods. Looks more like the 2008 OVA.
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>>134158368
Here ya go. Not bad for a lady in her 70s.
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>>134158571
Here, circled just for you, anon.
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>>134158526
She's 76 in this picture if she had Tights when she was 18.
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>>134158571
>open eyes.
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>>134158571
>>134158608
Why is it the only person that gets old, or at least ages visibly in Dragon Ball is Bulma?
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>>134158639
She's done it before.
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>>134158655
Nigga wat.
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>>134158682
After they reach adulthood, they kind of just stay that way forever.
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>>134158682
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>>134158655
That's not even true, Bulma's look changes so much that one arc she looks her age the next she looks like she's in her early twentys.
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>>134158639
We've seen her with open eyes even before Super
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>>134158740
Chi-Chi's like the oppai loli before oppai lolis existed.
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>>134158732
Actually, there's a noticeable difference between Goku when he's 18 and when he's in his 20s and 30s. Goku does get older, but he stays in his "20s" look for most of the rest of his life.
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>>134158656
>>134158771
Yeah, but she looks weird like that.
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>>134158732
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>>134158886
Not canon.
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>>134156807
At least Krillin killed those guys that bullied him for being tiny and bald
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>>134136179
Am I the only one hyped for this?
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>>134159239
I'm curious
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The preview implied that Tagoma becomes stronger when Ginyu steals his body?
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>>134134196
>Tagome dies in vacuum of Space in movie
>Tagome is vital plot device overall several episodes in Super
I'm sure it's no coincidence Hijikata voices Tagoma.
https://youtu.be/o1TuMJ3dVpo?t=2m40s
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>>134159381
Yeah, makes sense. Ginyu was one of the few aliens who knew how to control Ki. Only reason he failed with Goku's body was because Goku was already a bigger KI master than Ginyu. Tagoma probably isn't.
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>>134159239
No, I'm pretty hyped. I hope he doesn't just die within the next 15 minutes though.
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>>134159802
He certainly couldn't sense ki, that's for sure.
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>tortured to become edgy
>kills teammate
>psycho-like laughs
>"you need to be cold to succeed"
>"im the strongest"
>defeating 4 people at the same time with his 4 limbs
>chopping arms off

Literal generic edgelord
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>>134159929
Stop, go back to your shit thread.
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>>134159975
He really does feel like a generic edgy villain though and doesn't have Frieza's delusions of eloquence.
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>>134159929
So he's stronger than cell now? What a world we live in. By that logic Recoome could've trained to be the strongest in the universe
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>>134160125
>DBZ
>logic
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>>134159929

That makes it all the more funnier for when ginyu steals his body and starts doing stupid poses and shit.
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>>134160125
No everyone else has become much weaker because of peace time. Gohan wouldn't have a chance of beating Cell, and I don't even think Piccolo could either. The only two people who have consistantly trained are Goku and Vegeta.
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>>134160198
>when ginyu steals his body and starts doing elite fighting poses and shit.
ftfy
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>>134158655
All the humans are visibly aged in the epilogue.
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>>134160287
>Chi-Chi has a ponytail

My weakness
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>>134160287
>No 18
very nice.
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>Tagoma in RoF: Get's killed by Freezer
>Tagoma in Super: Get's beat by heatbutt in the dick

Why even hype him up at the expense of other characters?
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>>134160287
>bra
those Vegeta family sequences at the beginning would've been made better and his docility much more believable if his daughter was there. Why did Toriyama forget her? If anything Id rather her turn out like loli Bulma in that manga rather than another generic fighter who holds the line until Goku arrives.
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>>134160765
Bra is younger than Pan. She hasn't been born yet.
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>>134160765
If Bra is 3 during the epilogue then she'll be born about a year after Fukkatsu no F.
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>>134152600
Yeah, I mean he could probably just swap with Frieza or Goku and call it a day. Instead he goes for the 5th weakest character.
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>>134160989
Does that mean that Whis is actually Bra's dad?
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>>134161019
Goku isn't there yet and Ginyu's loyal to Freeza. We don't know if he switches bodies before Gohan or Gotenks go SSJ, so Tagoma's the strongest one there besides Freezy pop.
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>>134161088
That demon looking guy who got killed by Tagoma really disappointed me in terms of character design. He looks so plain. I kept comparing him to Dabura, and it made me realize all of Super's designs are a bit of a let down.

Tagoma is okay though.
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Why do they need Gotenks for a Zarbon-level scrub? Even Krillin could kill him.
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>>134161131
I really love Beerus and Whis' designs personally, Champa and Vados too even if they're similar. But to each their own.
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>>134161178
He's not Zarbon level, he one shot Gohan, watch the episode.
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>>134158348
>Their calendar could be faster than ours.

The more I think about Dragon Ball characters and how they age, this would probably be the case. In fact, it'd explain why Marron is still called a baby despite being close to ten years old
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>>134161179
They aren't so bad either I guess
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>>134161178
>Zarbon-level scrub
You haven't been paiyng attention have you?
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>>134161197
Getting around to it but dafuq? Why would Sorbet say the henchmen are as good as Zarbon and Dodoria if they're several times stronger?
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>>134161290
Because the guy trained with Freeza after that.
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>>134161290
>>134161340
Also he was a lowly minion, how would he know how strong they were, he was just saying that because they were Freiza's two guys and he wanted to please him.
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>>134161290
Taghoma used to be weak, but he was used as Freeza's punching back for his training, and regenerated each day from near death. Somehow that has resulted in him becoming a complete sadist and also becoming as strong as Gohan now.
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>>134161340
Ah, makes sense.

>>134161353
I would imagine Freeza's 2 right-hand men would have some stories about their strength going around. Also wouldn't be hard to gauge their strength, since everyone in their army has a scouter.
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>>134160734
We know that this battle is still continuing two episodes from now. So, he isn't losing to that.
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>>134161461
has an episode guide or title list been released?
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>>134153248
One of them will probably be Burdock, just so they can make some drama moment when Goku meets him.
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>>134153248
>Saiyans
>Not random aliens
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>>134150876
>Graduating university at 16.
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>>134160125

its not that hes stronger than cell, its that everyone else, specifically and especially gohan, got weaker cuz jobber status. gohan is actually weaker than he was in the cell saga, having LOST his ability to go SSJ2, let alone losing his mystic form.
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>>134162185


to enforce this point, if cell was revived with his exact power intact, he would stomp gohan.
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>>134161057
No, that means Vegeta and Bulma will have victory sex after the defeat of Frieza.
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>>134162310

bra is older than pan, but pan has already been born. bra is somewhere.
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>>134162788
Bra is younger than Pan.
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>>134162852

no bra is older than pan.
>>
gogeta
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>>134157430
Happiness Charge Precure, but it's the only scene that's like that.
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>>134162876
I can't find any source that says that
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>>134162876
Bra seemed older than Pan in GT and was said to be older than her in the GT guidebook, but in the manga it's never said how old she is. All we know is Pan is 4 and Bra is old enough to talk.
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>>134153025
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>>134162876
No she's not
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>>134163097
Is the joke that he showed up fucking everywhere in Fairy Tail?
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>>134162999
>>134163409

at the end of of Z during the uub tournament pan was a toddler who could barely talk. bra was twice the size of pan and could talk better. bra is older than pan by atleast 1 year.
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>>134163639
Bra wasn't shown as such in the manga, so that's not canon, but even if it were every autistic fan wiki still says she's younger
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>>134153526
Goku went from a BP of like 120k base to a BP of 3 million base due to a zenkai in the course of a single day. I think Tagoma whos race is unknown and thus could be capable of literally anything reaching Buu Tier power by being a training partner with Frieza who has reached God Level while also being a prodigy means that yeah, Tagoma reaching Buu Tier in 4 months isn't THAT shocking or crazy.
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>>134163663

>says its not canon
>proceeds to go off of a fan wiki

autism at its finest
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>>134160287
>Chi-chi got hotter

how
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>dragonteam late as usual
can someone tell over8000 guy to just make a new group and don't bother with websites so he can't get DMCA'd
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>>134151079
Do you even know what decimated means?
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>>134154574
He's not exactly evil, he's under the orders of Frieza, but he cares for his force. Fuck, how can someone who makes silly Sentai poses be evil?
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So, Gohan not go to this Universe tournament? But Piccolo? But he is now the weakest among Goku, Vegeta, Buu, Gohan.
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>>134153025
NEKO
MAJIN
Z
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>>134160287
>got new sunglasses
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>>134166148
if this happens ill be so happy
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>>134166031
even if goku wanted him to go chi chi would have through a fit and gohan probably would have made some excuse of how busy he is in order to not go. videl would be indifferent as she always have tho.

only way gohan gets involved in fights is if the world is in danger and he literally has no choice.
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>>134153025

he is going to be a completely unknown character probally.

either that or brolly cuz why not. more fan service.
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>>134154158

super already established it can retconn entire movies and make them canon. they can do the same for brolly. if tory REALLY wants to make broly canon then he can do so very easily and it would make sense. the movies would just be completely ignored and his origin would be established within the manga/anime.

not at all impossible.
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>>134154158

btw, Broly is a direct design by tori you retard. go do your research.
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>>134151079
Gohan is already confirmed irrelevant in the manga which is ahead of the anime because it skipped BoG and RoF.
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>>134153025
Xenoverse Main Character
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If you somehow got Broly to potara with Goku, what manner of shenanigans would unfold?
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>>134167072
...That would somehow not be surprising
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>>134167288
You ready?
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>>134166798
gohan literally said in the last episode that they were in the way of his child from growing up in a peaceful world.

that alone should be a red flag that theres never going to be a peaceful world for his child. He should at least keep up training so he can keep his child safe. That is the real reason im pissed about gohans decline
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>>134167223
Wouldn't be half as strong as vegito
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So which one is cannon now? BoG and RoF movies or their adaptation in Super?
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>>134167900

Movies are never canon. Christ.
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>>134167917
They were canon though
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>>134167917
BoG and RoF were explicitly canon before Super became a thing.
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>>134162218
Of course, SSGSS Golden Cell would stomp Beerus.
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>using CG for fucking background characters
>shitty 30 fps CG that animates as bad as rotoscoped shit
>using shitty low budget CG on a fucking movie
Fuck modern chink animation.
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>>134168601
Are you still shitposting? Are you almost done? I think your chicken tendies are getting cold, anon.
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Roshi
>Kamehameha!
Tien
>Kikōhō!
Piccolo
>Makankōsappō!
Gohan
>Tatatatataa!

He's so fucking useless he forgot how to Masenko?
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>>134169255
If roshi can stomp on them I have no idea how piccolo can't just walk up to them and flick them all to death
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>>134167370
they can bring in timecop trunks and QT kai, but fuck them if they bring over this generic "muh OC donut steal" template. i cringed so hard i almost never even tried out xenoverse when I saw this sloppy mishmash of characters.
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>>134169405
Roshi trained off screen, he's always been doing that.
During the 22nd Tournament he has inner monologue how he's going to wreck Goku because he's been training super hard in secret.
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>>134169524
You do realize you can make genuinely original looking characters right? Each race has like 6 unique outfits that aren't shared and unique facial features so it's very easy to make a custom character that doesn't look like a knockoff.
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>>134169558
What a fucking champ
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>>134169636
Roshi is great, but I prefer him in his Jackie Chun outfit, without the glasses and with hair.
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>Watch newest episode
>All the characters use their signature attacks
>Except Gohan who just does generic energy blast spam
>Gohan doesn't even get beaten by Freeza this time
>By some random grunt whose only above Ginyu force level

Hahahaha, someone must really fucking hate Gohan.
>>
YOU SAW FREEZA ON NAMEK
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How long until we find out Pan isn't actually Gohans daughter and she was cheating on him with Goten/Trunks?

Gohan gets shit on so much if something like this doesn't happen I'd be surprised.
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>>134169974
How long until we get Goten x Pan doujins?
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>>134169936

No, she did not.
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Super is fucking garbage though
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>>134154158
>2015
>not liking power maximum
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>>134170147
(You)
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>>134169936
She didn't.
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>>134162036
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>>134154683
Forgetting this event got Toriyama to fuck things up
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>>134136179
what would happen if ginyu switches minds with gotenks and time runs out?
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>>134171719
I say it wouldn't work because the body switch and the fusion would both count as magic abilities. Maybe the fusion would be undone and Ginyu would replace one of the kids.
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>>134154990
It's really hard to not compare.
https://youtu.be/J6AktNzSbpU?t=10
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>>134171719
Ginyu is trapped in Goten and Trunk's subconscious and has to navigate through the mountainous bullshit that occupies the mind of children.
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>>134169936
She only saw him from a distance.
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>>134170374
But super is seriously inferior to DB/Z and even GT
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>>134171983
>super is inferior to GT
The average deviantart webcomic is better than GT
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>>134160287
>piccolo no chance
dam right
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>>134171719
I see two things happening, if the body change does works with a fusion.

1. Ginyu (Gotenks) splits after 30 min into part of Ginyu mind (Goten) and part of Ginyu mind 2 (Trunks) and Gotenks (Ginyu) exists like that forever or

2. Ginyu (Gotenks) exists like that forever and Gotenks (Ginyu) eventually splits into Goten (New Ginyu body) and Trunks (New Ginyu Body)

It's pretty much a question of what does the fusion splits is it Gotenks soul/mind or Gotenks body? or maybe its both, in that case we would get both a Goten/Trunks with Ginyu minds and two new ginyus with goten and trunks mind in them.
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>>134164222
>>134160305
Asians.
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so I know power levels are complete bullshit and shit, but Roshi can not be strong enough to fight even 2nd rate Frieza soldiers, right? He fought goku as a kid to a near standstill, and since then hasn't gained any incredible leap in strength or skill, yet he can still fight enemies at least as strong as Raditz?
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>>134172642
The way fusion is usually described in DB is that an entirely new individual is born from it. So the way I see it Ginyu is essentially the new Gotenks but Goten and Trunks, after the split would still be the same, it's just when they fuse they become Ginyu.
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>>134169813
I think he used scatter shot which is a piccolo move
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>>134148248
HOT DAMN! The Briefs family has some really good genes.
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>>134172892
That would be pretty interesting, fuse and be super powerful but it's Ginyu on charge, and Gotenks would exist as a z-fighter in Ginyu body, he could maybe learn body change and switch back.
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I wish Piccolo used his Clothes Beam to change Gohan's disgusting tracksuit.
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>>134170533
I'm seriously starting to think Toriyama's (or whoever is just salty about Dragon Ball Multiverse, so now he's blatantly stealing shit from them because he knows they can't don't anything about it.
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>>134173199
>(or whoever is in charge of Super) ***
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>>134160287
>Hercule
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>>134172832
I assumed it's because he's staying in 100% power. It's just, like freeza, not a form he can hold for very long.
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>>134173148
Is the clothes beam the most useful attack every created?
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>>134173199
Are you kidding me? I doubt Toriyama or anybody at Toei gives any fucks about some nobody mexican's deviantart fanfiction.
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>>134173529
I think clothes beam and teleporting are the most useful techniques
and possibly multiform, for labor work
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>>134173529
Yes.
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>>134172832
According to current db training logic Roshi could have asked Kuririn to spar once in a while giving him a huge increase since Kuririn is so strong, besides Roshi had a high ass BP equal to Ten and Goku before, it's not like he got no potential.

Also 2nd rate Freeza soldiers are weaker than Raditz, remember Kuririn and Gohan one shotted two guys like them in Namek at 1.500 BP (Exact Raditz BP) and Namek Warriors are just 3.000 and were winning against them too.

I'd say every unnamed freeza soldier are weaklings that don't even surpass 1.000 some even need a Ki gun
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>>134169974
What the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>134173599
Multiverse's creators areFrench.
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After the last episode, i think Krillin is really going to be the strongest human.
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>>134173906
Who fucking cares
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>>134167391
>New Big Bad comes
>Somehow hurt Pan
>Gohan goes berserker like he did with Raditz

I would love this, and i dont even like Gohan.
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>>134166031
Piccolo is actually stronger than Goku pre-SSGSS if he could fuse with Piccolo the first (the one Goku legitimately killed long time ago)
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>>134174191
I hope they choose this way, or maybe they consider Piccolo already "fused" with his Father since they share some memories so he just have to unlock his hidden power.
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>>134174191
Why doesn't piccolo just fuse with every single other namekian?
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>>134174102
>THAT'S MY PAN!!!
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>>134174295
He can only fuse with those of his clan.
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>>134174396
So then why doesn Dende fuse with every single other Namekian?
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>>134160203
still, i find it sad piccolo got his shit raket so hard. that guy should lift more and stop meditating all the time.
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>>134174475
Dende is Dragon Clan, same as Piccolo.
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>>134169255
>lets leave yamcha at home and bring the old man who is weaker than he is.

poor yamcha
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>>134174295
The same reason why Goku didn't want to fuse with Satan.
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>>134174906
Roshi trained offscreen all the time, Yamcha gave up after No20 fisted his lung.
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>>134174806
Not exactly. Dende (along with those pariahs in New Namek) are Guru's clone, while Piccolo is the clone of Piccolo Sr. (by that extension, kami).
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>>134174806
I'm fairly certain Piccolo fused with Nail who specifically said that he's the last and only other Warrior clan Namekian.
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>>134174295
He needs someone of a considerable strength to springboard off of. If you fuse with fodder it wouldn't do jack shit.
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>>134174806
>>134175024
>>134175025
To correct you all.
You've got Dragon Clan and Warrior Type Namekians.
Dragon Clan use magic, Warrior Type fight, obviously.
Dende is Dragon Clan.
Piccolo is Warrior Type.
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I hope the new Super series could answer all those shit that was left out years ago;I

s Vegito stronger than Gogeta? I somehow prefer Gogeta because he's edgier and the design is cooler than Vegito
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>>134175025
Can non Warrior nameks still breed warrior nameks? Like is your clan based on heredity or does it just kinda randomize a bit?
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>>134154431
Mr. Satan
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>>134175200
isn't Piccolo some abnormation among Namekians? or at least the original nameless Namekian, before he splitted himself into two halves
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>>134175220
>s Vegito stronger than Gogeta?
That was answered in DBZ. Potara fusion is stronger.
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>>134175298
Yeah Nameless was both Dragon Clan and Warrior Type.
Piccolo however is still Warrior Type since Kami only served as powerup instead of proper merge because Piccolo refused to give up his personality.
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>>134175298
Supposedly the Goku of Dragon race. A genius, being left out in some backward planet because of the impending disaster of his own.

I still think the term namekian refer specifically to those niggers that Guru gave birth to.
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>>134175234
Hold up, lemme give Toriyama a ring and ask him real quick.
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>>134175372
Piccolo and Goku are both Kal-els of their respective races
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>>134175741
Fuck that wimpy shit. If anything, he's the Gohan of DC universe
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>>134175782
1. Superman and his backstory came first
2. Him being Gohan doesn't even make sense.
Seriously I don't even like DC outside of Batman TAS and Arkham games but you just went full retard.
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>>134175741
>races

Species.
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Will Gohan learn his lesson and fucking TRAIN? I miss teen Gohan so much he used to be so kick ass as a kid. Now hes the new Yamcha baka
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>>134176440
According to the last manga chapter, he won't.
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>>134176440
>Kick ass as a kid
Name one fight he won other than cell.
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>>134176809
Random Freeza Thug
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>>134176440
>used to be so kick ass

Everyone conveniently forgets that Gohan DOES NOT kick ANY ass 90% of the time.

Nappa/Vegeta: Misses his chance to attack Nappa; Bounces back GOKU'S spirit bomb fired by KRILLIN; Accidentally crushes Vegeta after turning into an Oozaru

Namek: Beats up a bunch of jobbers; Is severely wounded by Reccome; Can't even fight Goku-Ginyu; Flies into autismo rage against Freeza that barely hurts him

Androids: Nothing. He does nothing for most of the Saga

Cell: Fights him and succeeds (After getting his ass kicked for most of said fight and flying, once again, into an autismo rage)

Dabura: Struggles to beat a guy he could've beaten in one of his rage induced benders

Buu: Succeeds for a bit, but Trunks and Goten literally ruin everything. I'll give him credit though, this is the only fight where he's fighting and winning based purely on his abilities and skills and not because he's angry
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>>134177093
I'll give him some leeway though, because Goku is also known to get angry and beat the bad guys too.
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>18 is stronger than Gohan now
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>>134170533

>our own sayans
>King Vegeta could get fucked by Appule

What the hell.
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>>134176440
No. Gohan is a jobber. Either stop bitching or stop watching.

>>134176809
People need to understand this.

>>134177419
18 started as stronger then Gohan to begin with. Hell she almost killed Vegeta.

>>134171983
b8

>>134171942
>occupies the mind of children
You mean Bulma and 18's tits.

>>134169813
Get bent. Gohan is the new Yamcha and I love every minute of it. Krillin gets more love then Gohan. On the real, at least Gohan got taken out in a surprising and badass way in Super.

>>134169255
Nigga he hasn't used Masenko since Namek.

>>134168601
Salt of the Earth over here.

>>134168406
Literally autistic

>>134167391
Gohan only gets strong when he gets pissed. He doesn't have that fire inside him anymore. When he's not pissed, he is a softy.
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>>134157442

I just realized that this is the entire Vegeta vs Frieza fight in the movie

A whole 49 seconds, what the fuck, it better be a lot longer in Super
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>WEAKER
>THAN
>A
>FRIEZA
>MOOK
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>>134174102
faggot
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>>134177093
This actually puts a lot into perspective. Fuck Gohan, he's always been a bitch.
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>>134179209

Or everyone is severely underpowered right now which would make sense and do what Toriyama wants which is to make the power levels more or less equal. The only superpowered OP fights will be Vegeta and Goku. Move on with your life cocksmoker and enjoy the show.
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>>134179418
>gohanfag detected
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>>134179418
None of the fighters bar Roshi would be weak enough to lose to a Frieza soldier at this point, and that goes for Ginyu too. No matter how soft they've gotten during peace time, those kinds of enemies would still be fodder. The fact that it takes SSJ Gotenks to take him on proves that Tagoma is at the very least SPC level.
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so.. when goku started looking for the dragon balls he was 14 and he looked like this

But goten is like 7 years old and he looks like this too

I guess goku was just very chubby and tiny as a kid

i wonder if we will get to see a new design for adult goten in super
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>>134180021
The Brief family is filthy,stinking rich and they could afford nutritious food for a young halfbreed prince
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>>134174765
piccolo is going to get fucking destroyed in the upcoming tournament
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>>134179209
Cell is doomed to irrelevancy
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>>134180021
Saiyans basically don't age at all between the ages of 3 and 18. Half-Saiyans age like regular humans (unless Toriyama gets lazy).
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>>134180604
>irrelevancy
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>>134173421
Don't blame me, blame Viz
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>>134175200
The clans don't really apply to Piccolo. He's a warrior, dragon and demon all at the same time.
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>>134160287
Where the fuck is Tien?
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>>134181050
>Dragon
Nope, he's explicitly NOT Dragon type since the Dragon Balls and Shen Long died the second he fused with Kami, since it wasn't a fusion but rather absorption from Piccolo's side. They didn't merge, he "ate" Kami for a powerup.

>Demon
Also nope, Kami explicitly says both Raditz and Goku went to afterlife while everyone being killed by Demon Clan are forever trapped in limbo and can never move on until the Demon who killed them dies. That didn't happen to Goku or Raditz meaning he was no longer Demon by that point.
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>>134181780
when the fuck did Kami say that, because I just finished watching Dragon Ball and he never said that shit.
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>>134179209
>'Perfect'
>Lost to Yamcha 2.0
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>>134181927
>When
In DBZ, after Goku dies and Piccolo takes Gohan.
Mr. Popo and Kami are talking about Piccolo not feeling so evil anymore and Kami speculates it's because Piccolo predicts he will most likely die in the fight with Saiyans and wants to leave some legacy behind (Gohan). He then also says that as ultimate proof that Piccolo ain't evil anymore, souls of both Raditz and Goku moved on to afterlife instead of being stuck in limbo.
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>>134136179

Doesn't Ginyu lack the ability to actually utilize a power level higher than his own when he switches? How will he even be a threat?
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>>134182180
He does, he just can't use their techniques, like Goku's Kaioken to raise his power level.
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>>134182280
Ginyu in Goku's body only had a power level of 23,000. Goku in Goku's body without the Kaioken was about 90,000 at the time.
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>>134182180
I think it's more like he can only utilize like 75% of the body's power or something like that.

also anyone ever wonder if Ginyu's body was his original or if it was one he stole? Jace doesn't seem surprised at all when Ginyu switches with goku, and is even quick to transfer scouters to the new body.
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>>134182420
>>134182435
I think he needs time to get used to their body in order to fully utilize its power. Can't use their techniques, though.
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so is this worth reading/watching or will it ruin db/dbz for me
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>>134182620
It's a lot of fun as long as you like original DB and Boo Saga and didn't start at Z.
The Z-Only amerifats bitch about it just like how they bitch about Boo Saga because it isn't as serious and doom'n'gloom as Freeza and Cell sagas.
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>>134182679
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>>134182180
According to the magazine spoilers he'll be even stronger than Tagoma, although they don't explain how or why.
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>>134179418
>Or everyone is severely underpowered right now which would make sense and do what Toriyama wants which is to make the power levels more or less equal.
Except Tagoma is clearly super powered. He easily rips off Piccolo's arm in the preview.
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>>134182435
Isnt the purple one his original body
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>>134177093
>Androids: Nothing. He does nothing for most of the Saga
He beats up Gero when Gero grabs Piccolo with a surprise attack.
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>>134182866
>Flashback of Ginyu Frog training to control power levels
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>>134182866
Maybe Ginyu trained for 10 years in the Frog School.
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>>134182180
>>134182866
What if Tagoma is Ginyu's original body?
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>>134183495
I'm pretty sure Tagoma would have mentioned that during that flashback with Ginyu talking with Freeza.
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>>134183495

Tagoma will use the same technique to try change bodies with gotenks ginyu frog will intercept the attack and we will have ginyu again
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>>134172116
Unfortunately, Super is below that still.
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>>134166031
I feel like he will...... I feel buu will fail the written test and by some last minute miracle gohan will replace buu. I'm hoping for it.
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>>134154431
>who works as hero for fun
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>>134183717
>hoping for buu to go out
>and have gohan instead
kill yourself
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>>134183717
I can see that happening, actually. Still would rather not have 3/5 saiyans on the universe 7 team.
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Now that I think about it, Champa and Beerus are brothers, Whis and Vados are siblings as well. That means they have parents. I wonder what they're like.
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>>134183717

Buu and the mystery fighter (Arale or Nekomajin) are going to fail

Replaced by Gohan and Gotenks
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>>134177093
To be fair, Vegeta's track record is similarly spotty.
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>>134178987
>this entire post
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>>134184026
That's fair.

People just over-inflate how "badass" Gohan is.
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>>134184103
And people also exaggerate Vegeta. Judging by their track records, how capable was Vegeta against Frieza on Namek, the androids, Perfect Cell, and Fat and Kid Buu? I expect to see Vegeta defeated by whoever he faces.
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>>134183717
I think Buu might just be still sleeping, and it turns out to be the hibernation stuff that Toriyama mentioned in an interview.
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>>134180604
One of Champa fighters could be Cell from another universe. At least I hope.
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>all these niggas hatin' on my man buu.

Fuck gohan.
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>>134183959
The "brother" stuff might just be how they reference universe counterparts. They called the universes "like twins", after all.
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>>134184241
this
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How is the pacing of the Dragon Ball anime?
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>>134184241
I'm gonna be so pissed when there's some inevitable reason he doesn't get to be in it
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>>134184310
Watch Dragon Ball RF for original DB, RF is a Kai-style fanedit of the original that removes filler just like Kai does. Really solid work.
Kai for DBZ.
Then just jump into Super.
There you go, no pacing issues.
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>>134184310
The middle third of every episode is filler that doesn't go anywhere.
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>>134184219
Humanity is wiped out in his universe, though I suppose it's possible that a creation of Dr. Gero's helped with that, could be some other being entirely though instead of Cell.
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>>134184174
Well, Vegeta killed Dodoria, Cui, Zarbon, Jeice, and Ginyu with no help from anyone else.

He toys with 19 for a bit and loses to 18, but at least he was doing stuff. He then fights Cell and does pretty good, but lets his ego get the better of him.

He doesn't fight a lot in Buu Saga, like a lot of characters, but he does "technically" beat Goku once he becomes Majin. He kills Pui Pui as well. If we count Vegito, he pretty much toys with Buu for a bit before separating. Finally, he fights against Buu generally to defend for Goku.
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>>134184469
The Freeza kills were done when he was still a villain.
As soon as he "joins" the good guys, he becomes just another running joke. A Goku that loses.
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>>134157123
That is next level. We don't need to regress we need for shit to get real. And that's mild compared to what I really want to see. I want extreme battles, no pussyfooting. Go full retard with style.

Surpass one punch man visually and apply what I said, crack on a TV screen.
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>>134181675
He doesn't appear in the chapter itself, but he appears in the final "good bye" picture. He looks identical to his Buu Saga self though, and Chaotzu also didn't age.
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>>134180890
>A literal subordinate of Frieza could make Cell his bitch
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>>134184870
Thanks for proving my point.
>>
They need to go All out on action.

I love ridiculous, unrealistic, blinding speed, galaxies eroding by impact of kicks, punches, fighting in event horizon of super massive black holes no effect, fighting in cores of planets, star systems, slipping through realities, punching each other through different realities.

Just being on perfect ssjg breaking down time and space as a celestial. Can be felt across all universes. Yet there are beings who still outmatched them who they must defeat, some type of cycle of reality.

Everything that we knew had a much bigger purpose and apart of a much bigger plan.

Multiverse level threats, etc.

Creating/ destroying universes, repeat in battles, pushing planets with their ki, throwing planets, defeating the embodiment of time itself, etc .

Physically pushing all of snakeway on top of someone, punching someone so hard all planets and moons blow up in that galaxy, etc.

Them so strong that someone threw a punch, missed, and stopped vado or whis heart causing them to die. Space fights!!!! I want them to slowly escalate into these things bro.
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>>134160765
>another generic fighter who holds the line until Goku arrives
Now every character except for Goku and Vegeta became this, even the half-saiyans who are supposed to be "future Earth's protectors".
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>>134184965
>dragon ball super will never ever look like that
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>>134182056
Now every character is Yamcha, no one has the right to look cool in Goku's watch, just like GT.
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>>134185230
>amerifags
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>>134176440
To be honest I don't know, I just watch this with the thought this is Goku/Vegeta's time, everyone else is obsolete.
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>>134161197
He cheap one shotted an unsuspecting, base level Gohan.

I suspect that Gohan and him will have the final fight and Gohan will barely edge him out, but will win at SSJ.

It's small, but I also love that they took out that stupid "I can go Super Saiyan still... I think" line out of the anime.
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>>134185356
H-have faith anon maybe they're saving it for the new content.
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>>134185554
>It's small, but I also love that they took out that stupid "I can go Super Saiyan still... I think" line out of the anime.
They didn't.
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>>134184313
he is sleeping
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>>134177093
>>134179311
>>134184103
This autism. Of course Gohan wasn't going to defeat any mayor villain. Still after the Saiyan saga (and during it he got rip of his crybaby aptitude and went to help Goku even though every else told him to go home). In the Namek saga when he thought Frieza killed Goku (in SSJ) he fought Frieza alone.
In the Android saga he got more balls and asked Goku to train him seriously.
In the Buu saga he was supposed to be the main hero, but Toriyama brought back Goku.
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>>134185690
But they did, anon. I watched. I meant that they took "I think" out of the line.
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>>134185770
>he fought frieza alone

no he tried running away and got smacked like the faggot he is (again)
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>>134185770
>In the Namek saga when he thought Frieza killed Goku (in SSJ) he fought Frieza alone.
That's an extremely stupid filler scene.
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Also, find some type of catylists for the humans to get stronger with new techniques.

Have tien reach a level like omega shenlong in power, have gohan merge his mystic form with each ssj as a boost of each (maintaining 2 forms, using his genius of course for a perfect balance between the 2),

Make human cast super perfect cell level and up to about omega shenlong level.

Have the others above that.

Should also find ways for the humans to keep up being power ups from the gods just like in the old dbz when guru and old kai did, but these gods are way stronger so they can be able to keep up.

New transformations for saiyajin that actually look badass and just super aggressive, then just one final one that is divine and never reaches full power until the end of the series.

Female ssjs.

New transformations for namekian.

new moves/ techniques for all characters.

And give goku some new attacks other than Kamehameha, and infuse techniques that he knows to make new moves.

Like a spirit absorption where it works like genki dama, but goku is still in combat but body collects energy raising his battle power while fighting. He can either use it into a spirit Kamehameha, or spirit dragon punch, or just absorb the power to fight.

Have a variation of IT like widenet IT where it can cover wide areas without holding anyone and more efficient at locating ki signatures.

Get so fast that using IT becomes useless. Like by the time it would take to lock on a ki signature, he could have flown anywhere in the universe in that time. Then on cosmic throw IT out all together and give it to a weaker character.
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>>134184241
>>134184298
>>134184313
My expectations for U6:
He and Piccolo jobs.
What could happens, but I kind if 30% sure of this:
He's still asleep. Or he fails the exam.
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>>134185770
>In the Namek saga when he thought Frieza killed Goku (in SSJ) he fought Frieza alone.
Anime only filler, also he was RUNNING/buying time, not fighting.
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>>134185903
You can't tell a story that has 15 protagonists at the same time.
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I've only watched the first 2 eps of Super and saw the F movie. What the fuck is happening? Can someone put me up to date?
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>>134185811
Check your shitsubs, it was still in.
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How come it's only ameriburgers who have a hard on for Gohan?
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>>134186049
No it wasn't.
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>>134185973
No faggot watch the show
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>>134186095
They only got DBZ, so Gohan appears as a "main character" of sorts who goes from being shit to standing on his own.
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>>134185973
The movies are non-canon.
Super starts at the end of Boo Saga and adapts the plot of BoG and RoF movies before going into the new arc.
BoG and RoF as shown in the anime are canon version of the story.
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>>134185973
Super has reached the RoF arc, and they're changing things up.
Tagoma turned into a badass Frieza-lite, and Trunks and Goten sensed his powerup so they're joining in on the fight. Ginyu-frog is hanging around, and the next episode title suggests he's going to do some body changing.
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>>134186095
Amerifats only have DBZ and GT and started with Z since that's what was aired there first.
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>>134185968
Lmaooooo.

The main would still be goku, but you can't leave the humans in the dust without giving them something to work with.

What I mean is while goku, vegita, possibly gohan fight in space and the super op people.

Have the humans take care of things on earth but they fight kid buu level, omega shenlong threats level of power, and to the more powerful warriors that would be childsplay. Everybody is doing something, everything is hype.

The stronger people will be fighting people like 7th day juggernaut, antimonitor, z, divine spawn, mad Jim jaspers level, shuma gorath, living Tribunal, t.o.a.a level toward the end
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>>134186095
because they see themselves, as a nation, represented by gohan trying to catch up and better up their parents, who obviously are much cooler
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>>134186095
>only ameriburgers who have a hard on for Gohan?
Japan and the rest of Asia. Truly DB's shitposters are imbeciles.
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