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So I just finished watching Overlord (making my way through the specials as we speak).

Am I the only who likes best girl (pic-related) more than Albedo?

Please tell me S2 will come soon
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>>134132430

Shalltear is objectively better than Albedo
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>>134132430
Albedo didn't even exist in the original webnovel
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>>134132430
>>134132561
what is the purpose of this thread? we already know its a fact.
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Join the eternal wait now
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Schoolgirl a qt! A qt!
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At least we know for a fact who is best boy, right?
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>>134132643
To be honest, I used to like Albedo more, since the opening made it obvious that Shaltear will fight against Ains I thought she betrayed him on her own volition, but when I saw episode 10 and realized she never had any intention of rebelling, she suddenly became best girl for me.

Albedo is second place but she's still cute though.
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>>134133599
nah
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>>134133750
I still like Albedo more, she had some great characte moments at the end of the anime/V3 of the LN.
But Shalltear went from not-even-on-my-list to a very close second place, she's wonderful.
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>>134132643
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>>134132430
Not knowing that yuri is the best girl kek anon kek
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>>134133599
Yes.
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>>134133797
He's second best.
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Didn't we have this thread yesterday? Not that I'm complaining about a Overlord thread.
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>>134133009
What's this from? Manga aint that far.
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>>134134967
Don't jinx it,overlord threads are rare now so I want this one to last.
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I didn't like how they animated her true form, looked pretty bad compared to the concept art.
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>>134135101
Everything looks bad compared to So-bin
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>>134135189
Yes but this was especially bad,this is Madhouse were talking about, they could have done alot better.
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>>134135189
wow, I was about to post that exact line
But yeah I don't think the anime production staff had the will nor time nor expertise to make something more complex looking. She looks more like a goblin and thats just a travesty.
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>>134135273
OPM proves this. It's more likely they just rushed production and didn't much care.
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>>134135101
Yeah. I was somewhat disappointed at how she ended up wearing rags and looking like she was Golum's aunt on acid. On a related note, here's a page I scanned and uplaoded yesterday from the TV guide.
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So, now that Ainz owns re-lantel, where does he go from here
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Regardless of who best girl is, did we ever agreed upon who was objectively best maid?
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>>134135871
Why did he take that town anyways? I thought the plan was to build his own nation.
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This is objectively true.
1. Shalltear (Best Guardian)
2. Sixth (Best Meido)
3. Shizu (Best Pleiades)
4. Aura.
5. Evileye.
6. Albedo.
7. Narberal
8. Solution.
9. Lupus.
10. Yuri.
11. Entoma.
12. Foire.
13. Lumiere.
14. Twin Sluts.
15. Lakyus.
16. Man-Woman.
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>>134135927
Because he took E-rantel and the terrotory around it,the city is also at the center of the ST,BE and the Kingdom so there alot different cultures.... and also alot of informaion on these nations.H e also too the the forest of Tob and the Katze plains so he got lots of territory.
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>>134133750
>Albedo
>al
>bedo
>All Beds
Original NPC setting: fucking slut. Gorge on my simple-mindedness, fools!
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>>134136216
don't forget the lizards to the north which was already his territory, and the dwarves who he's going to conquer next volume securing the mountains.
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>>134136462
>Albedo
it just means whiteness like rubedo means redness
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>>134132430
No, you are not alone. Shalltear is mai waifu. Vampire loli always best.
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>>134136603
You're right so he pretty much alredy has his alredy nation,and I'm sure he's gonna take over the Empire too.
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You guys think Tabula created another NPC called Citrinitas?
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>>134132561
>>134132604
>>134132643
>>134136709
Now I'm getting the impression that almost nobody likes Albedo
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>draw a boy
>call it a girl
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
Still mad
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>>134132430
Nah. Perflat Shalltear has been my most favorite girl long before the anime started. My second favorite is Evileye.
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Vol 10 fucking when
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>>134136813
Yes, because she's a bitch.
(for the most of the time)

>>134136658
I know.
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>>134136813
I'm with you man,Albedo is best waifu.
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Thanks SlowPress
"The once popular game Yggdrasil was supposed to shut down that day. Everyone was supposed to be logged out automatically. But the players who stayed online past the moment the servers went quiet found themselves transported to a game world made real. Leading them is Momonga--once a boy whose love of games in the real world brought him only loneliness, now a skeletal sorcerer. The legends of Momonga and his guild begin here!"
>a boy
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>>134136883
I wonder why the author decided to make them traps?
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>>134136973
do you know of any translators?
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>>134137047
It was a good decision. Besides, had to fill out the stereotypes.
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>>134137033
>But the players who stayed online past the moment the servers went quiet found themselves transported
>players who stayed online past the moment the servers went quiet
>players
Plural or shitty translation? Started to read only recently no big spoilers pleases.
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>>134137277
Shit ass summary by SlowPress.
Here's one other summary for the light novel.
"The series follows a salary man who remains online when the service for an MMORPG ends. In doing so, he becomes a powerful skeletal wizard. In his new form, he begins attracting followers and conquering the digital world that remains."
>Digital world
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>>134137277
Don't think too much about it. It's not technically wrong but in that context it's probably a minor mistake aka shitty summary.
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I'm really curious what Ainz is going to do with the town now. How will he treat the citizens and management? Base management gives me a boner.
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>>134137347
>>134137406
Thanks
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>>134135014
It is now. I think those are the newest scans.
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>>134137707
I forgot how much the manga rushes
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So is he going to conquer the dragon lolis realm next?
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>>134133009
Best Black Scripture.
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>>134137720
It comes out monthly. If they didn't rush, it'll take decades to finish.
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>>134138252
He's gonna conquer the Beastman nation and probably make an alliance with the DK.
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>>134133009
I like how the top Scripture members just stare blankly at the magic circles binding them.

Since the manga includes the Orb, it may also include Nigredo.
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>>134136813
Salty fags gonna be salty fags, at least Albedo isn't a fuckup like the gothloli.
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>>134138864
Can you stay quiet? This is a Shalltear/Entoma thread.
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>>134133009
>Shalltear is in normal mode, without her lance

Good to see the manga is more faithful than the anime.
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>>134139042
She does whip her lance out during that though
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>>134139099
Her purifying lance, which is a skill. She never uses the Spuit Lance, which she did in the anime.
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>>134139037
>this is a worst fanbase thread where people that love failures post
At least Entoma finished her job before she got wrecked, Shalltear accomplished fucking nothing beyond making skeleman waste resources on her retarded ass.
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>>134138864
I don't know man, the only reason that Albedo loves Ains is because she is "programmed" that way, at least best girl loves him on her own volition I think
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Does anyone know when the soundtrack will be uploaded? Learning japanese will hearing the glorious nazarick music, will help my japanese studies. When will volume 10 come out anyway?
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>>134139275
You sure? Hmm, I need to reread everything again.
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>>134139311
Everyone in Nazarick was programmed.
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>>134139381
Yes, he's sure.
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>>134139371
while*
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>>134139395
Who programmed Shalltear to love Ains? Peroroncino?
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>>134139381
>Shalltear used her class skill and created a ‘Purifying Javelin’. A huge javelin imbued with divine energy was still capable of dealing significant damage even if the user had an evil alignment.
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Could Ainz do a race change? I mean how is going to fuck Albedo? Could he respec, changes his race ?
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>>134139371
>Does anyone know when the soundtrack will be uploaded?

When I get my hands on it.
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>>134139446
She's not directly programmed to love him, she just does. He falls under That's my Fetish territory.
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>>134139458
He probably has the options, but this is NW. He'd need to test things out on others first. Part of the reason he wants to find a player.
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>>134139446
Shalltear loves Ainz beacuse he had a bromance with Pereroncino,and since NPC's inherit their creators "heart" she loves Ainz.
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>>134139460
May Ainz-sama bless you. Will you upload it to nyaa.se?
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>>134139458
>how is going to fuck Albedo?
He doesn't want to fuck her.
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>>134139595
Thats his problem right there.

>>134139558
Man, I hope that Overlord will have 150 chapters at the end, because it's so slow moving. When will we even encounter a player? I fear that the climbing is wasting time for Ainz's character development.
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>>134139311
Everyone in the tomb wants the bone, from the lowest death knight to the meidos.
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>>134136813
Shitty add-on character.
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>>134139715
That's literally not his problem.
He doesn't feel any lust because he's udead and he doesn't want to change it.
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>>134139568
Dunno, but I have enough time to think about it till its release.
And enough money for the fastest shipping method
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>>134139769
>Everyone in the tomb wants the bone
even the boys? that's lewd.
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>>134139794
Well, if he doesn't bone her, we can wait for a yandere chapter. Albedos killing squad will do something at the end, right? If she's not doing anything with it, the author wouldn't have introduced the concept, of her forming an independent group at all.

>>134139834
Where are you living?
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>>134139879
>He doesn't know that Sebas was first to get rejected

>>134139988
>Where are you living?
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>>134139879
Bonerman said that he likes mature onee sans with big tits, if I remember correctly, he also told Albedo that she's not his type as Momon.
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>>134140244
Seems like we are from the same place.
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Left or Right /a/?
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>>134140405
The maid.
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>>134140405
>>134140448
>not taking both
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>>134140405
>He has to ask
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>>134140405
Right. Who's that on the left, Narberal?
Also, wouldnt Albedo be extremely jealous that Narbe gets to tag along Momon's adventures?
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>>134140538
She knows Narberal cheers for her.
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>reading Gate
>"Shits on fire yo"

The TLs are fucking with us again I see
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>>134140538
Hasn't Demiurge defused this situation by saying that Ainz trusts Albedo so much that he lets her lead nazarick when he's not around.
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>>134138864
>at least Albedo isn't a fuckup like the gothloli.
Because she hasn't done much at all so far
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>>134140644
Because she is managing Nazarick with Demiurge. It's not like she can be everywhere at once.
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>>134140362
Gut!

>>134140634
No, he did cast his magic. Wife stays at home to look after their home
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>>134140721
Both posts where written by me. How many people are in this thread right now? Is it just us two?
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This time for real, left or right?

You wouldn't a boy instead of Narberal would you anon?
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>>134140779
Is this whole crossdressing, trap-thing a meme, or is it serious? Left of course.
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>>134140779
There's no contest if Mare is included.
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>>134140825
Nope. His creator made him like that.
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>>134140778
It's a date!

>>134140779
>He has to ask yet again.
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>>134140614
>read a little further
>"Like a puppet with its strings cut "

Goddamit
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>>134140896
>>134140999
>Being a faggot
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>>134132430
She would be best girl if she wasn't an ugly fucking lamprey
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>>134141052
>being a faggot without liking traps
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>>134141052
>fucking a plastic doll
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>>134140978
No, I wanted to know, if the fact that /a/ likes traps is a meme or not. I know that Mare is a trap and everything.

>>134140999
Denwa Bangoo wa nan desu ka
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>>134141357

Homosexuals are a meme so liking traps is a meme too
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>>134141357
Considering that it's /a/, no, not a meme. Traps are a necessity in one's life.

>Denwa Bangoo wa nan desu ka
I can't, Shalltear is watching. She gets jealous fast.
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>>134141357
This is /a/. We always either want the cute little girls, or be the cute little girls ourselves, or maybe both at the same time. Cute traps would of course resonate with that feeling. So yes, yes it's serious. /a/ does like traps, and it has been that way for a long time.

Well, actually there's all kinds of people here, but liking traps is common here. Maybe not all, but common enough. But /a/ also put an emphasis on the needs of thing to be 2D for them to take any interest on things sexually.
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>>134132430
Shalltear.
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>>134141922
I MISSED YOU SO MUCH
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>>134141699
Thats too bad. I would like to have some sort of an IRC or another kind of chatgroup with some like minded folks from /a/.
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Slime
Pussy
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>>134142228
Why not just make one?
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>>134142427
It
Burns
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>>134142439
I don't know how to create an IRC group. Well, would you join this kind of thing? Then we'd be two people atleast.
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I-is it Saturday again? I've missed them so much, how long will we have to wait now that the ln got licensed? And how long before Genocide Reality gets dropped for being absolute dogshit?
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>>134142545
Any particular name? #overlord is already taken on Rizon.
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>>134142593
Sky cocksuckers start backpedaling when it was their edgy underaged selves who voted for Korean shit like Genocide in that poll just because the title sounded edgy.

You fucks deserve what you get.
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>>134142228
I'm in every overlord thread. Even the last ones with <40 replies

>>134142687
>ogrelawd

Tried it, is free
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>>134142687
I'm terrible at naming things. Name it like you want.
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>>134142593
Why the hell isit still being translated?It's shit,why not translate Youjo Senki instead.
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>>134142593

The joy I felt in expectation of the new translation each Saturday allowed me to get through each week. When will I feel alive again?
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>>134142785
Alright. Created on Rizon. Lets see where this goes. Be back in some hours.
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>>134142803
Don't pretend you didn't vote for it to be translated.
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>>134142809
When the 10th volume comes out, and you already learned japanese to a certain level. Just learn the language. It's going to be the same shit with the next series you really like. I started to learn japanese when the steins gate light novel got announced. Not because the series is particulary great, but because I knew that it's going to take forever until I could read it.
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>>134142841
Gud, thanks. Didn't want to be @. Has been years since I last used anything else besides /msg for xdcc.
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>>134142884
Not that guy, but I didn't. I just want more Knight and Magic.
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>>134142884
That's thing,I didn't vote for any of them, honestly,none of them sounded particulary interesting to me.
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Any news on v11 yet?
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>>134143102
Why did you come back in time?
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>>134143102
So,tell us time traveler,how was vol.10?
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>>134143065
Right? They all sounded pretty aweful. Youjo Senki was a pleasant surprise though.
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>>134143242
Climb volume.
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>>134132430
Read the LNs.
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>>134143308
That triggered me greatly.
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>>134143272
First chapter was actually interesting,I hope we can read more in the future,Apparently the vol.2 is 300+pages,so it's gonna be good!!!
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>>134143308
Fuck.
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>>134142841
Well, it seems that there is some interest in the chatgroup. Thats really geat. I only know hardcore narutards in real life, who are interested in anime and manga.

>Tobi is sasukes father


>>134143308

I hate everything about the rookie adventures in this kind of stories. Either make a rookie story, or make a story about people who are at the top of the food chain. Why are these two things always lumped in together like this?
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>>134143308
Don't even joke about that.
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>>134143701
Sumimasendeshita
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>>134142593
>lets turn kira yoshikage-tier soulless corporate rat into a nazi loli wizard
Why again God thought this is a good fucking idea?
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>>134143554
>Well, it seems that there is some interest in the chatgroup.
Join. We're only two at the moment. Best son went to bed it seems. I'll hit the sack in an hour too. Channel is open and we'll work on a bot later.
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>>134143780
Oh crap, I didn't saw the name.
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>>134143444
I'm excited to read them in english.

>>134143741
I can't think of a better idea, can you?
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Has anyone talked to the author? Is it getting close to the next volume?
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>>134143964
>I can't think of a better idea, can you?
You mean in the end everythings gonna turn out just as YHVH planned?
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Nabe - one love.
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What's the new drama CD about? More Nazarick SOL shenanigans?
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>>134144710
Climb going all out
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>>134144839
Stop with it, the joke isn't funny. It just makes me angry. So, I just skimmed other climbing. Did I miss something?
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>>134144965
Ok, sorry. I didn't listen to the whole thing yet, because I had to pause when Ainz made Shalltear cry.
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>>134144325
Apparently volume 9 was the end
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>>134132774
when is when is the 10 coming.
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>>134145540
>Source: My Ass
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BD's are selling well guys. We might have chance for next season. We'll see after vol. 6 - around march, maybe earlier. I'd say it's likely. Considering very open ending of ep. 13, I'd say next volumes would be 4,5,6 with 8 squeezed in as proper OVA(3 eps). Let's just hope that nippons know whats good.
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>>134145860
Hopefully it would be another 13 episodes ending with the demon arc.

But I can already hear the secondaries when it starts.

>These lizards are boring
>Who the fuck is Climb

ect ect
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If 4chan having issue with images right now?
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Narberal is best girl.

Like, I'd fuck Albedo, but the fact that she's TOO EASY makes her feel like the consolation prize in a VN.

>Oh, you were too retarded to properly get on a girl's route? Whatever, have this consolation pussy we'll just throw at you with a lackluster H scene and early game over. Don't fuck up next time.
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>>134146143
>Implying you even register
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>>134146143
May I tease you?
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Oh and you still have a month to download PDF's of Village Idiot(all links in comments section of volume 9 afterword on sky's site). Copy it before Yen Press does this for you (for a fee but of course).
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Eh, web novel or light novel?
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>>134147306
Can you read moon?
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>>134147378
That's why I'm considering the WN. My understanding of grammar's good but I lack vocabulary, so reading something in-browser where I can use Rikai would be great for practice.
I've read most of the LNs but I've been having trouble enjoying them after the first three. From what I've heard I might like the WN better but was wondering what other people thought.
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>>134146252
Awwwwwwwwww yeeeee
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>>134147749
Up to you mate. The WNs aren't canon anymore. The LN changes a lot of things.
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>>134147844
Japs have no concept of canon anyways. They fly by the seat of their pants and change whatever the fuck they feel like when they write themselves into a corner.
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>>134147306

Why are you even asking? The light novel. Web novel isn't even canon anymore. Hell, Ainz/Momonga barely does anything in it. If you don't like the LN, I don't see why you would like the WN.
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>tfw the anime will never get this far
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I wish that I was a cute vampire girl in Shalltear's harem.
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B E S T
E
S
T
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>>134148183
how big are these things anyways?
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>>134148207
>he actually wants to be used as a projectile or exta snack in case of emergency
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>>134148282
Between twelve and twenty feet tall
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>>134148282

Other lore lists them as being 15 to 30 feet tall. Big enough to be mistaken for a tree.
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>>134148162
He barely does anything in the LNs, so I figure it can't get any worse.
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>>134148875
I think you got it backwards. In the WN, he literally just sits on the throne and comes out to Nazarekt people. The WNs actually focus more on the NPCs. For instance, Narb is Momon in the LNs.

Also, hope you enjoy Harry Potter and/or school battle harems.
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>>134149083
*Narb is Momon in the WNs
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>>134148875

It does. He's more like a side character in the WN.
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>>134149083
>>134149119
>>134149167
Yeah, I saw a summary of differences somewhere.
Really I'm not complaining that he doesn't do anything. Maybe I'm just annoyed after the first few novels being about Momon dealing with his situation, and ever since it's felt like a bunch of side characters I can't give nearly as much of a shit about sometimes interacting with him.
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>>134132430
>not giving Albedo your love and passion
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>>134149306

Then the WN is probably not for you, since it's basically that feeling multiplied by 4.
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>>134149377
Hmm, too bad. Well, I was mainly asking to see what other people thought of it, I'm still going to give it a try because >>134147749
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>>134149306
just finish the LN dingus
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>>134149083
>Also, hope you enjoy Harry Potter and/or school battle harems.
Eh?
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>>134145552
Translations have been stopped because of yen press.
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>>134132430
>S2 never ever
Shallchair never ever
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>>134149510
OK
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>>134149664
In the WN, Ainz never declares Nazarick its own country but becomes a noble. He then goes to magic school in the Emprie.
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>>134145860
We're almost certainly getting another season eventually. It's selling well in BDs and the anime did an incredible job of boosting LN sales.
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Fuck Albedo
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>>134150747
Honestly, that actually sounds more interesting
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Just finished volume 9 today, I've already read all the side stories, and listened to the audio tapes.
What the hell do I do now?
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A ticklish detail on some characters:

The vampire lord "Landfall" was rumored to have destroyed a country.

The E-Rantel Adventurer's Guildmaster and Magician Guildmaster mistook Momon's and Nabe's relationship as master and servant, and with the information that Momon is hunting another vampire, they have misunderstood that Momon is royalty from a country destroyed by a vampire.

Coincidence? I think not!
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>>134151332
suffer the wait like the rest of us
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>>134151110
YES

At your command!
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>>134151335
A cute
CUTE
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>>134144668
The inside of Albedo's mouth looks like a smirking man with a mustache.
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>>134141052
>liking cute a cute girl with a penis is gay
fuck off faggot
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Overlord sold 927,413 total copies of the LN this year (November 17, 2014 - November 22, 2015)

So close to 1 million. Impressive boost as prior to the anime, the volumes were selling ~25k each.
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And what the fuck is she going to do with all those goblins now? She literally just created a nation out of thin air that will obey her every command.
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>>134151381
Please no.
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>>134151775
And why is there no fanart of this
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>>134152087
hips aren't wide enough
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>>134136042
You forgot the village girl.
I so hope Momonga ntrs the fag boy.
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>>134132430
Why'd she randomly go perflat? Not that I'm complaining.
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>>134145552
If I recall from the author's twitter, Volume 10 is essentially done. Just waiting on the publishing date.
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>>134152256
>randomly
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>>134152256
read the novels.

Actually, nevermind. I forgot they explain that in the anime too. But no you should read the novels.
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>>134139311
You know what I really find funny is how Momonga says in the first ep Albedo is the strongest NPC of Nazarick, that is why she guards the throne room.
Then we get Shalltear is the strongest and later it is victim and then it turns to Rubedo (one of Albedo's sisters).

Also why do Worldd Items have no level restrictions?
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>>134152256

she always was perflat
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>>134152267
So what wasn't random about it? Momonga modified her a bit during the resu to his tastes?
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>>134152262
>author's twitter
you got a link? Been looking for that.
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>>134152322
did you read the manga/LN or even watch the anime?
why are you here?
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>>134152406
>staff is so OP we will never get to see it in action
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>>134140405
Why not both?
Also doppelgänger is double fun to begin with, well until she fucks you!
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>>134152355
to bait you?
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>>134152504
We hope you're baiting
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>>134152262
>>134152262
thankyou based anon
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>>134151402
I really can't stand that hat of hers. It looks like something a baby would wear.
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>>134151045
We are talking about Madhouse here you knwo, they did a second season like only two times in more than two decaddes or so.
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>>134151335
Look at the LOLI

VAMPIRE LOLI
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>>134151332
Is there still a place where I can get all that to read it?
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>>134152705
yeah the mega
https://mega.nz/#F!9gcB1JTS!WHAlQqEoYUgpdy8cdCg5qg
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>>134151775
Well I hope she gets more involvedd in the future, like Ainz seeing potential in here and forcefully turning her into a non human and pwerleveling her to make better use of her.
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>>134152658
It's just antique.
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>>134152776
eh don't make her non-human but make her stronger that's for sure. Might as well make alchemy boy stronger as well. Introduce him to the Librarian.
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>>134151797
At this rate, you're better off learning jap and importing the light novels for yourself for how long slowpress is going to take.
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Shouldn't Nabe be attracted to PA?
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>>134152741
Thank you very much, much appreciated!
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>>134152843
How hard is it to learn to read gook?
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>>134152851
pretty sure there species is genderless.
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>>134134373
>Touch Me
>Boy

he's a fucking MAN, you lil bitch. I heard after sleeping with his wife for the first time she could only ever use a Dragon Dildo to satisfy herself.
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>>134152815
Well that would mean she could die of old age, which would be disadvantageous if he invests in her.
Aside from that apparently Nazarick already posses a token human that is actually part of the maids but kept hidden.
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>>134152895
>>134152851
I believe nabe is actually a female though at any rate
her racial level or whatever is so low that she cant change shapes or faces
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>>134152307
Pay2Win
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>>134152930
>I believe nabe is actually a female though at any rate
that would require her to have race levels in something with a gender. She only has one level in Doppleganger.
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>>134136813
Remember that Albedo's love for Ainz is originally not genuine, unlike Shalltear who can be viewed as a reflection of Peroroncino's closeness and bromance with Ainz.
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>>134152978
she is technically a female though
she's literally trapped in a female form
when all is said and done shes a female
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>>134153044
>she is technically a female though
>she's literally trapped in a female form
>when all is said and done shes a female
anon, I'm not entirely sure you understand how all this works.
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>>134153079
i'm not sure you do, buster
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>>134152967
That is the answer to what?
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>>134153019
i thought i read she was programmed to be a necrophiliac and that's why she loves ainz. she just wants to fuck bones and corpses.
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>>134153110
Alright then. Explain to the rest of the class why you think Nabe is female. And don't just say "That's how she looks".
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>>134153110
>>134153079
>>134153044
>>134152978
>>134152930
SHe is part of the maid corps and if she was not created by Perororonchinos sister she is not going to be a trap.
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>>134151547
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>>134153150
she's from a "genderless" race yes, but she
is biologically a female and
was created as a fucking female by her creator, and despite being a doppleganger she cant change forms at all
meaning that she has always and will always be a female

why arent you understand this
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>>134153223
Don't look at me like that you fucking donut
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>>134153262
>why arent you understand this
I don't understand why you can't comprehend she is a dopple. She doesn't have a gender. She can change to whatever she wants, but in the end she's still a dopple.
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>>134152888
No. On top of that I don't think Overlord is an easy read.
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>>134153306
>She can change to whatever she wants
except she cant you cvck
SHE IS LITERALLY STUCK IN HER FEMALE FORM
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>>134153360
>SHE IS LITERALLY STUCK IN HER FEMALE FORM
She's not stuck in that form, that's just what she stays in because her creator made her that way. I don't know why you're fighting this so hard it's not going to hurt anything.
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>>134153306
Just because society doesn't accept the fact that though you sexually identify as a marmaset doesn't mean that everything that shapeshifts has to be fluid gendered to validate your own confusion.
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>>134153416
>She's not stuck in that form
Yes she is you fucking moron
it's stated in the LN that her racial level is too low to change forms
>I don't know why you're fighting this so hard it's not going to hurt anything.
becuase you're hellbent on being a retard
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>>134153435
Don't bring society into a Overlord conversation
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>>134153416
Looks like someone didn't pay attention at all. Maybe you should go read the anime, watch the LN, play the manga on youtube before commenting here.
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>>134153132
She does the fetish of a necrophilia. But the point is Peroroncino created her to satisfy his own fetishes, but also to express the friendship he has with Ainz and that's why Shalltear is so into Ainz. Her obsessions that goes beyond her necro fetish is undoubtedly to convey Peroroncino's close bond with Ainz.
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>>134153495
>>134153504

I guess I should have been more specific. She can change into her base dopple form if she wants to, just doesn't.
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>>134153501
>except that's not what I said at all
God, the idiots in the fucking thread.
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Woah people calm the fuck down. We don't want to lose anymore toes.
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>>134153523
So Peroroncino is gay?
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>>134152900
>she could only ever use a Ulbert to satisfy herself.

Yep.
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>>134135882
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>>134145860

I think that they'll try to compress everything in the Non-Nazarick focused arcs (especially Lizards). Volume 9 seems to be a perfect place to end.
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>>134153684
Doubt it. Peroroncino is a master eroge otaku. His core fetishes can be understood by looking at Shalltear, so he's most likely a lolicon. But I wouldn't put it past Peroroncino to be down for some comical homolust for Ainz though.
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So apparently Overlord sold more than SAO this year. I call that a win in my book.
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>>134153041
BLESSED
PERFECTION
>>
Not gonna go too deep on it but if anyone's interested in seeing more of So-Bin's art they have a tumblr here.

http://so-bin.tumblr.com/
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>>134154624
>Gather round children and let Papa Bones read you a tale
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>>134154624
Why does Sebas' shadowed eye look like an eye-patch?
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>>134155178
the hell is up with that background
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SASUGA AINZ-SAMA

>>134152818
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>>134152851
>Implying no one is attracted to the legit son of their god
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>>134132430
Ask madhouse not us, you stupid fuck.
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>>134153992
>Pero thought of Momonga as the comic relief best friend whose homoroute you get if you botch every girls' routes

Actually, I kind of want to see Shalltear and PA hang out.
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>>134155274
Too bad he's locked in a room somewhere nobody can get too without Ainz
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>>134155311
>He's already forgotten Vol. 7
fertile dopplewomb
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>>134155311
How far have you read?
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>>134155386
>>134155389
I've read everything but probably forgetting something given the responses and I'm too lazy to argue.
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Is this thread an excuse to post mai waifu? Because I'm posting mai waifu
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>>134155206
It's simulating the MMO-tier textures.
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>>134155460
Everybody generally assumes that Momon and Nabel are in a relationship. Ainz does not particularly wish to dispel a rumor that gives him and Narberal an excuse to sneak off.
PA and Nabe end up sharing a tent some distance away from the rest of the adventurers guarding the tomb entrance in volume 7. You can put the rest together yourself.
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>>134154719
>Ainz decides to tell the Guardians stories from the old world
>Demiurge ends up building a giant mechanical dragon off the concept of an airplane, but apologizes profusely that it can't breathe super-tier magic as described
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>>134151345
You talking shit about our great hero Momon?
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>>134151345
It's just Narberal being a retard as usual. It's blatantly obvious to everyone that she's subservient to Ainz for one reason or another.

Still, it would be adorable if Evileye came to that conclusion and started freaking out.
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>>134153656
twitter story continuation when?
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>went to a convention yesterday
>hunting for overlord goodies, figure,posters,mousepads, ANYTHING
>absolutely nothing
>except a cheap bag with AOG emblem
I'm mad. Papa bones 70cm figure WHEN
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>>134156858
Conventions have bootleg goods and mainstream goods. Order online.
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>>134156966
Not that anon but even online there are not figures of Ainz.
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>>134155506
that pic is shit
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>>134157027
Even fucking Guilty Crown had figures
Where's mah Alberto and papa bones combo
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>>134134786

Today I will remind them.
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That one is hilarious
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>>134136813
I like Albedo a lot. I just wish she did more. She was created to take up some of Shalltear's and Demiurge's duties from their WN selves, mostly the running of Nazarick, in order for more Shalltear and Demiurge time. I understand this, but I wish she was a little more active outside of Nazarick on occasion though. And that Ainz finally just bones her, or at least reciprocate her feelings.

As to Shalltear, she's fun too, but I wish she was a little more competent, like her WN self. At least, successfully enslave someone useful or turn some unlucky human (or elf) girl into her sex slave who begins to voluntarily wear a buttplug even after the abuse stops. I personally hope she turns one of the Theocracy's best into her slave; schoolgirl puppetmaster would be a perfect sex slave for Shalltear.
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>>134157567
Now you've got me wondering if Ainz has tested whether or Nazarick NPCs can naturally reproduce
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>>134158068
I want hat-chan to be her personal sexslave.
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>>134136883
Don't worry; Mare will grow out of that outfit and become a handsome bishounen.

Aura will gain a megamilk girl level bod, and will still try to wear that same outfit as it was made by her creator. Except due to Nazarick's lack of a dedicated tailor, she'll end up wearing that vest unbuttoned and barely covering her nips like Lady J.
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>>134158113
Isn't hat-chan possibly a vampire?

That would work too; Shalltear making her a converted Vampire Bride. Probably dressed up as one of her Brides as well; but letting her keep the hat.
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>>134158111
That's a theory tsuare and sebas will test out in the future
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>>134158314
I hope it's a successful test during the LN's run.

And with her getting pregnant more than once.
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>>134158659
One anon said that dragons can impregnate a rock if they tried hard enough
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>LN translation will forever be dead
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>>134146172
That cooking for Entoma.
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>>134158721
I'm sure dragons can even get females pregnant across time and space without actually being a dragon of time and space. They just need a successful roll.

I remember someone writing up this stupid yet hilarious thing over how God was really a dragon in another dimension and Jesus was the result of said dragon impregnating Mary from afar, and that many of Jesus' acts were just from his dragon magic.
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>>134159237
>sebas is jesus s real father
>this was Ainz sama plan to invade our world with religion withput any effort on their side
>God was Ainz all along
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Did somebody upload the latest BD drama CD?
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>>134158314
>>134158659

I believe it's already possible to reproduce new monsters with humans if Demiurge's "farms" were anything to go by.
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Are there any differences in the BD episodes? No new scenes? Some improvements? Oh, and is the manga still going to be translated now that it was licensed?
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>>134160535
>>134160379
No Herohero or Tabula?
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>>134160570

nope
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I still can't the difference between Shalltear and Touch Me.
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>>134160917
>holding tails
L-lewd.
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So judging by Pandora's Actor, was Ains an edgy neo-nazi when he was younger?
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>>134161387
PA is just a flamboyant genius though.
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>>134160805

>can't tell the difference

Sorry can't help you Anon.
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>>134159426

Nope as far as it goes, the last thread at Saturday, Nigel is working on it.
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>>134161387
He's just a regular chuuni that thinks military garb looks cool. Just because you think the Nazi are a bunch of snappy dressers doesn't automatically mean you'd share their ideology, no?
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>>134161468
Supposedly he is just as smart as Demi and Albedo, or perhaps even better considering his job classes. It makes me wonder why Ainz doesn't make him accompany him more during his meetings with the guardians, since PA could help him out whenever there comes a time where he needs to furrow his nonexistant brows, or breaks out in imaginary sweats. Sure, it's the meetings of the floor guardians, but there's his status as Ainz's creation after all.
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>>134132561
albedo a shit

I can only find ONE piece of r34 on shalltear and it is infuriating
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>>134161746
Mainly because Ainz is that ashamed of him.

Would he have a Divine-Class Luger or Mauser pistol?
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>>134161836
Well, usually there'd be no Shizu to deal him a critical hit with her Uwaah~, so he really should bear the shame a bit. Well, I, no, we all just want to know about him more. I think pretty much all the other lv100 NPCs have had their time scaring the NWers shitless with their lv100 stats, it'd be interesting to see how they'd react to the terror brought by the lv100 egghead. I mean, he is an egghead man.
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>>134161746
This is actually a very valid point. He really should have included PA with Demi and Albedo's meetings so he can easily find out what their true motives are. (Its not like PA has a lot to do)

>Yfw he already planned for this contingency with team Albedo.
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>>134156858
>buying shit at AFA
Its next to impossible to find goods that aren't extremely popular.
Papa bones figure never.
Also how was it? This will be the 8th year in a row that I miss it.
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>>134161836
>>134162005

Well, maybe somewhere down the line Nazarick could start an orphanage.

With PA in charge of education.
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>>134152473
But anon that's the best part!
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>>134162221
Nigredo and Pestonya run an orphanage for all the orphans from volume 9.

PA teaches all the war orphans to goosestep, heil, and address Ainz in German.
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>>134156858
You should out stores like amiami. Pages upon pages of Overlord stuff
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>>134162475

PA spends his time crafting Nazarick youth knives.

Purest Narzarick youths are bald and eggheaded.
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>We shipped your order today.
>Subtotal 8100 yen
>Shipping 3360 yen
>Total 11460 yen

More Overlord merchandise is on its way! Finally!
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>>134163501
What did you get?
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>>134163548
Some pass cases with Eins and Alberto, book cover and the fucking acryl key chain box.

Those are the remnants of my Overlord November order. December got its own 15k yen order waiting.
BDs are not included, they are ordered separately[/spoilers]
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>>134142841
So what's the Rizon's chat name?
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>>134163793
Read again, you'll see it. ogrelawd
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>>134163793
ogrelawd
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How can a bug be so fucking cute? I ain't even into monstergirls.
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>>134137033
Maybe to them a virgin will remain a boy forever no matter how long.
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>>134164400
>Liking vagina dentata
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>>134164400

That is not her face. Hell all the battle meidos have a true form.
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>>134165179
Shizu a cute
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>>134165179
Δ is the only one who remains cute
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>>134165179
From left to right:
>lapdog
>evil loli
>femme fatale
>literally who?
>straight man
>goofy slut
Prove me wrong
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>>134165621
from left to right:
the eggman
disgusting insect
ulnagr Yuggoth Farnomi ilyaa
Meido Idol Shizu
generic megane
literally a psychopath
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>>134165269
>>134165316

You guys seriously didn't notice the terminator glow..

She is all cute and innocent till 1 day she is ordered to terminate targets without using her firearms.
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>>134165813
So.....by sex?
Reminder to not fist android girls
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>>134165813
They never learn.
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>>134165813
"...Have detailed files. On human anatomy."
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>>134165847

No... AI logic should be pointing at the next most efficient way to kill.

>No firearms
>Searching....
>Brick on the floor
>Calulating efficiency...

Something like that, I guess. Hell, if she thinks killing you by strangling you with your friend's intestines is efficient, she will do it.

>>134165881

Well, ppl always let their guard down when they see something innocent and cute. Alround cute stuff never relax

>>134166292

>..detail files...

Accept that man part.
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>>134132430
All the female characters are shit with no character development whatsoever.

But of course you like Shalltear more than Albedo, she's the only one not programmed to love a bag of bones and got way more screentime/focus.

Albedo is pretty as hell, great design overall, and her crushing on Ainz is cute but really nothing even the most generic anime can achieve at the core level.

The best girl was that one which was pretending to be a boy in that party, probably. Too bad about she ended up...
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Iä Shub-Niggurath vs. The Goal of All Life is Death.
How big is the AoE of TGALD? Would he be able to kill the whole Kingdom army with a single use? I mean, the goat rampage was fun, but seemed quite inefficient.
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>>134167239
Why did you jump from the anime to vol.9?
Go read the previous volumes.
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>>134167239
GoALiD is a bluff, which can be used with another bluff.

It can be used with a single target spell or an AoE.
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>>134167287
I read all the volumes. I know the objective of Ainz in that context was to display his power, I'm asking if in an hypothetical similar situation which spell provides the highest destructive power.
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>>134167354
Anon, are you pretending to be retarded? It's not funny.
If you want to bump the thread you can ask normal questions.
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>>134167454
How is asking about the mechanics of a skill being retarded?
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>>134167629
Because you asked
>What's better, a spell or a skill that helps other spells?
They are incomparable, you should have asked something like
>What's better, [La Shub Niggurath] or [Cry of The Banshee] boosted with [Widen Magic]?

You even know it's a skill, that's worse, I thought you just didn't read the material well enough.
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>>134167629
TGOALID doesn't have an AoE. It modifies the next spell cast, like Triple Maximize Magic. He uses it on the chair fight because she has immunity to death-based spells, but TGOALID bypasses everything, which is why even the air itself in the area was destroyed.
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DK-kun was the best side story

Too bad we'll never see it animated ;_;
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>>134167239
To modify this anon's question, do you guys think Heaven's Downfall would be as devastating to the Kingdom's army?
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>>134167935

Well, we still do not know what the new drama cd contains. Who knows, it might be better.

Anyone know what it contains?
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>>134167742
>>134167780
Fair enough.
We still haven't seen a spell as far reaching as the sacrifice part of Shub (able to instantly kill the left wing of a massive army). Cry of the Banshee (even buffed) doesn't even come close to it, and it's likely that TGoALiT can't modify spells that don't deal damage in the first place even if their AoE is massive e.g. Control Weather.
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where is the new ovallord?
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>>134167629
Ah well, nitpicking aside, I know what you're asking. To answer that, you actually have the right idea, that the AoE is what determines the most effective spell at mass murder, at least in the case of lv100s against NWer mobs. The firepower is almost negligible factor since probably most offensive spell casted by lv100 could kill the mobs, so higher tier spells that have the same effective AoE are just overkill.

But like other anon pointed, TGoaLiD is just a support skill, it's AoE is dependent on the accompanying spell instead, and like I said, against NWers mobs, stacking it is really just an overkill since most of them are not immune to instadeath spells anyway.
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>>134168203
>and it's likely that TGoALiT can't modify spells that don't deal damage in the first place even if their AoE is massive e.g. Control Weather.
Come on, anon, we already know what it does and for what.
Insta-death spells only.

>>134167983
>>134168203
Also, you can't read or consider the effects of the spells based on the anime's portrayal, as it can easily be inaccurate.
Maruyama might have wanted the effect of Heaven's Downfall to be much larger than how it was showed in the anime.

I think Heaven's Downfall in pure damage and force is strong if not the strongest that Ainz can deal, but might not have the widest AoE, Ainz could also cast [Widen Magic] to support it.
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>>134168343
HD is supposed to be fire damage right?
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>>134168203
I think it could still apply to Control Weather, but that also doesn't have an instant-death effect so it wouldn't affect anything
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>>134168424
I had assumed it was Divine, but I don't know enough about DnD to know if/why that doesn't make sense.
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>>134168485
It says something like it burns the area, but I suppose that could just as easily be holy damage too, however the fuck holy damage works
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>>134168438
So yeah, Cry of the Banshee is probably his widest non super Tier instant death spell. Wonder what the range on that is.
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>>134167935
Speaking of DK, I feel sorry for the DK that trains with Hamsuke. Even though it seems that he might not be able to learn MA at all, the guy still work his hardest to accomplish what his master orders him to do. Such a hardworking child. He should be the token character to fill the 'never gives up' role instead of Climb.
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Triple magic cast the same spell three times, right? If so, can you choose multiple target or the same for all three? If you could do that, triple widen cry of the banshee would be pretty good.
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>>134168580
Hmm, D&D is saying it's area is 40 feet. Maybe that gets boosted by levels and bonuses?
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>>134134202
whats with the bit of "I want x to turn me into a girl" thqt makes it common enough to make it to a bingo image?
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>>134168693
He did use Widen on it, who knows how much that extended the range of it.
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>>134168693
He used Widen magic so i guess that should have increased the range even further
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>>134169022
>>134169029
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Good point.
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>>134169111
Hmm, even then D&D says widen spell only increases by 50%. So who the fuck knows.
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>>134149730
I need to see this animated

We have to do something to make them make season 2.

We gave watamote an anime, we can do this too.
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>>134168831
>whats with the bit of "I want x to turn me into a girl" thqt makes it common enough to make it to a bingo image?

Uh.. you seriously not following Overlord threads long enough.
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>letting this thread die
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>>134132430
>Am I the only who likes best girl (pic-related) more than Albedo?
No, only retards prefer Albeshit.
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If Ainz wanted to beat Shalltear himself, couldn't he just cast TGoLiD + Grasp Heart, run away and wait for three days, cast it again and win?

Then he wouldn't have had to go through that silly fight, and not involve any guardians either.
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>>134170494
She was a nice semen demon, I knew she was going to die, just didn't expect it to be so brutally.
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>>134171544
I think it only works on the living, shaltear is an undead
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>>134171544
He could have just have worn his ring that gave him 3 extra lives but didn't because he wanted to prove to himself that he actually deserves to run the place, good job on missing something that's basically spelled out for you.
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>>134171658
Considering Shaltear is Ainz's hard counter
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Besides undead/Ains, what other fetishes does Shalltear have?
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>>134136813
Altraitor doesn't deserve love and passion.
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>>134171931
All of them. She is literally the culmination of fetishists.
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>>134171931
Dom
Cosplay
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So I've been reading through the pathfinder spell list(?), and I see a lot of similarities. I can see where he got a lot of spells. And hell if 9th level spells aren't brutal.
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>>134132430
Goddamnit for just a moment I thought v10 was released or something
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>>134133009
So Schoolgirl ISN'T a trap? Or did he stuff tissues to make fake tits?
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Why does Overlord push Albedo so hard? For a character that didn't exist in the WN she sure is shoehorned into everything and take the spotlight of Ainz's semi-official love interest. She even gets the whole ending song to herself in the anime.

It'd be fine if she wasn't such complete shit, and any other girl would be a better love interest.
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>>134143554
>Why are these two things always lumped in together like this
It's not as bad as the Scrubs in LH at least, since Gazef / Climb / Brain do get their shit pushed in regularly when facing Nazarekt's.
Not like level 50's somehow contributing in any meaningful way to an endgame raid.
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>>134132430
>Am I the only who likes best girl (pic-related) more than Albedo?

Yeah you're the only one in the world. You're such a special little snowflake you dumb motherfucker
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>>134144325
Nice.
>>134146143
Albedo is Lunatic Mode unless you're Momonga-kun.
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>>134149664
Momonga goes to Hogwarts.
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>>134151345
That would necessitate Momon being 200+ years old.
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>>134170494
Her VA was incredible
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>>134151775
Suck them off.
>>134152307
>>134152307
>You know what I really find funny is how Momonga says in the first ep Albedo is the strongest NPC of Nazarick, that is why she guards the throne room.
Yeah I don't know why he said that, since Shalltear is the 'best' all around while Rubedo is disqualified from any competition for being haxmode.
Victim isn't nearly the strongest, he's a one-trick pony that just happens to be devastating due to being in the same place as the other Floor Eight NPCs aka 'what would happen if we became absolute shitlords and stuffed every broken and gimmicky NPC into a single aggro group that attack once Victim goes off'
>Also why do World Items have no level restrictions?
They don't? Maybe because they're so horribly fucking broken as well as so ridiculously rare, that if you somehow got it at level 70 instead of 100 then good for you.
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>>134152888
It might take around a year or two to get to 'fluent enough to read most books albeit with minor difficulties' depending on how hard you work at it at how good you are at language. It's trivial if you're fluent in Chinese.
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>>134153435
>>134153416
>>134153360
>>134153306
>>134153262
She has an egghead form, because all doppelgangers look like fucking eggheads but can change to suit their purposes and/or tastes.
She even shows off her longfingers to Hamsuke.
Narberal probably has a pussi in her Maid forme, but doppelgangers are genderless to begin with because they change their fucking shape. Yes, Narb is too low-levelled to have another human form but she still has egghead form, which has (probably) neither pussi nor benis.
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>>134155226
Good job Ainz-kun.
>>134155529
But anon, it's 21xx
Are you telling me they're still using 512k textures in 21xx
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>>134136042
Good job with your shit taste.
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>>134158659
>Nymph
Those slutty slutty nymphs.
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>>134161387
The neonazi uniform was apparently just environmentalists who actually had a point.
Also, nazi uniforms are up there with Napoleonic uniforms.
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>>134162005
The level 100 egghead has utter shit stats for a level 100, it's honestly comparable with maid-tier stats (besides Special).
>>134165179
In the nip versions, is Yuri a Dullahan or that other Japanese dullahan thingy that Sekibanki is?
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is ride back on the railroad?
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>>134158659
>ogre x human
>yes
What the fuck? Ogres in D&D are fuck-huge, I don't see how that could work... I mean, fucking dwarves and halflings can't mate with humans, yet AN OGRE can? That's ridiculous.

Then again, it also says Giants can, and they're even larger. I dunno, it's just that ogres are a lot more beastly, I just can't imagine it ending well.
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>>134171658
The other reason is so that he could give his all into the fight since his very life depends on it. Auto-res while is more reassuring and give more leeway, probably would end up preventing him from entering super-serious mode, and could spell disaster since Shalltear is that dangerous to him.
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>>134173227
Yuri is a real dullahan. Sekibanki is a rokurokubi, but seems the be part dullahan too
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>>134167629
TGOALID is basically a single-use buff, it might be buffing Finger of Death, Circle of Death, Cry of the Banshee, or Momento Mori. By itself it does nothing, sort of like AIDS.
Cry of the Banshee casted by a level 100 lolwut necromancer with insane INT probably has a save so sky-high that nobody in the NW could resist it.
That being said, Widened Cry of the Banshee has a 200 meter radius, not enough to kill 70k people.
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>>134136813
>nobody likes albedo
>90% of overlord's porn is about her
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>>134169111
It's 200 meters in Ygg.
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>>134173414
Does it just straight up say that? Fuck I'm forgetting a lot. 200 meters is pretty big for a insta death spell, but yeah wouldn't be big enough for a army.
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>>134173227
The level 100 egghead only has subpar stats in his egghead form. Remember, he has 41 forms.
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Not sure about this latest volume. Sure, was nice that something happened for once, and actual plot progression, but I feel like Ainz is turning out to be a bit too much of a dick. I don't mind a bit of edginess, but come on. Killing that many people just to get a better summon-count than before? That's a bit over-the-top sillily chuuni, even for Overlord.
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>>134173532
Oh boy here we go.
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>>134173227
I'm curious what the egghead could do in his default form. Is there any special skill that his egghead form could do other than shapeshifting?
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>>134173538
The nigga roleplayed a death spell spamming lich, this is completely in character.
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>>134168424
Maybe its non-elemental aka True Damage.
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>>134173609
He's literally too lethal to fight
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>>134173538
Read that part again.

Also:
>edgy
>chuuni
Stop.
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>>134167983
You have to think of the scale of an army flank of 70k people. I imagine that Ia Shub Niggurath more or less overpenetrates until it runs out of gas which is why nobody's summoned 5 Dark Young before - any situation that merits use of Super Tier magic has enemies high enough level to stop it after a few targets.
Heaven's Downfall is powerful but from what I'm reading it's not gigantic in radius (not small by any means either), just absurdly powerful. At most the shockwave from essentially nuking the place would be able to send soldiers all around flying and kill a bunch.
>>134171544
He probably could get a life down, but A. he can't run away from Shalltear, she's faster than he is and B. the idea is that he has to burn as many Vancian Magic-type skills (casts-per-day, like Negative Impact Shield) and mana off as possible before continuing. He'd also have problems with Einhrjar the second life around.
>>134173293
I think it means 'technically if you shove sperm from a human or giant into a human or giant womb it will work, no guarentees on the girl not exploding from the actual mating or gestation'
>>134173532
I did note besides Special.
>>134173538
Ainz himself notes that this ain't right and is sort of scary (when he realizes he doesn't care about killing a lot of people before casting the Super Tier) but as a lich he honestly is incapable of giving two shits about life, which is a literal resource to undead. At least he's not going full 'exterminate all the living' undead that DnD lichs are.
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>>134173538
He wants to put on a good show for his big debut

Wiping out 250,000 men with one spell and killing the strongest warrior in the kingdom with a glance makes for a great story to spread around to his future subjects
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>>134168831
Lupu pulls pulls i
CZ cuts it
Solution melts it
Yuri Smashes it
Entoma eats it
Narberal burns it
Albedo sews it
Shalltear Vampire brides it
Cocytus freezes it
Aura unsummons it
Mare goobles it
Demiurge breeds it
Sebas Hokutos it
Pestonya wankos it
Nigredo babies it
Ainz Bones it
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>>134173561
It's explicitly stated that he can be at 80% the power level of any of the supreme beings.

>>134173609
Yeah, but he's not roleplaying anymore. Or... I guess he is to his subordinates, but he doesn't have to strive to be even more despicable than they expect. I know, I know, skeleton psychology and all that, and that's fair. It's explained perfectly well, but that doesn't mean it's very exciting in a narrative sense.

To me, the reason Overlord works without any real threat to the protagonist is because of his internal struggle with actually being a demure japanese salaryman while everyone expects him to be a supreme overlord of death. This recent development of him pretty much giving entirely into the latter role just makes suspense nonexistent.

I still liked vol 9, don't get me wrong, but I wish the author would give Ainz a bit more depth than just
>muhaha, im a skeleton now! fuck everyone
>muh guild members muthafucka
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>>134173826
I thought the Super Tier Magic was more to smoke out any players in one swoop since you can just wail skills and attacks on a caster while they're prepping one.
That being said nobody who knows what Ainz Ooal Gown is capable of would ever try to attack him solo, I dunno what he was thinking.
I mean he has a Gate open next to him that obviously leads to Nazarick aka "Jesus Fucking Christ I hate these NPCs why are they killing me in two hits"
>>134173935
>muhaha, im a skeleton now! fuck everyone
He says himself that his change is scaring him.
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>>134171544
you missed several points of that fight.

1.- He did it to draw out the ones that MCd Shalltear
2.- He needed to prove to himself he was a worthy ruler

People keep using meta knowledge to ask pretty stupid questions.
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>>134173538
What do you mean? Ever since the beginning he's pretty lost his humanity, he can't really afford to give much fuck to anything Non-Nazarick as far as the first battle at Carne Village. Even him holding back on the Nazarekt is only because he's afraid that there'd be some other strong players, and if they are human characters or at least have high sense of justice, he might end up antagonizing them and brings about needless conflict. There's still mercy here and there in him depending on the situation, but his karma meter and his build at Yggdrasil really doesn't translate into something that could do anything but fucking his morality on New World ever since the beginning.
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>>134171628
TGOALID removes any immunity and resistance to instant death spells, including being undead.
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>>134142593
Is someone going to continue translating overlord?
Besides the waiting, it's not like it's licensed in my country, so doubly fucked.
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>>134173973
His plan had multiple layers to it, as expected of Ainz-sama
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>>134173935
>>muhaha, im a skeleton now! fuck everyone
It's less of a "fuck everyone" attitude and more a bored apathy. He knows what he is doing is terrible, but he still just doesn't care.
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>>134173684
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Lich
>Skills: Liches have a +8 racial bonus on Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, Sense Motive, and Spot checks. Otherwise same as the base creature.
Apparently he's capable of stealthing as well.
>>134174047
Someone is going to but volume 10 is not even out in Japanese yet.
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>>134172332
Because she is being set up as a major plot point.

In the WN there is a lot of dicking around with no clear goals on what to do, whoever is Maruyamas editor is cleary doing a good job having him focus on plot as well as character development and story.

You can read the WN version of vol 9 and compare it to the LN to view the glaring differences.
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>>134173691
>Read that part again.
Which part is that?

>>134173785
>as a lich he honestly is incapable of giving two shits about life
Yes, I already wrote that it's explained adequately. I'm just saying that it's not very exciting. He seems to have given completely up on his humanity. He sees it disappearing, but since he doesn't give a shit anymore, it's hard to count it as a conflict at all.

>>134173826
Again, it's explained, but that doesn't make it very thrilling to just read about him being a dick "becuz skeleton brain" with absolutely zero conflict involved. At this point, it seems like the author is planning on making the audience sympathize with the extreme low-level NW citizens instead, which is hard to do when Ainz and the people on top are the main characters. Consider that Gazef and the others don't even appear in every volume. It makes it hard to care about anyone or anything that happens.

At least, that's how I feel.

>>134173973
That's like one single line. Unless he does something about it (which seems extremely unlikely at this point), it's just a throwaway statement.
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At least we're having a normal thread for once
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>>134174092
Wait, really? Wouldn't that make lich the ideal assassin race?
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>>134174155
Nah, because a lich is a caster. Although I suppose you can make an undead Skelton
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>>134173597
>I'm curious what the egghead could do in his default form

His default form lets him copy the 41 Supreme beings at 80% of their power, thats an insanely OP ability, and thats without considering that he might have access to all the skills the 41 had.

You attack him, he changes into the guild tank, then counters by turning into the dps. you run away and he shifts into the guild Information Officer then turns into guild sniper or nuker.
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>>134174144
I dunno man. I'm withholding judgement until volume 10, because this occurs at the end of the latest volume so we don't know how it's going to proceed. For all we know there's going to be stuff like administrative issues.
>>134174155
Lichs are more prone to rain massive arcane destruction on people due to A. have to be a high-level caster to become one and B. you get even higher INT by becoming one.
It's a good way to surprise people with Meteor Swarm from on top of a cliff behind three Death Knights I guess.
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>>134173935
>but he doesn't have to strive to be even more despicable
This is going to be the new "he didnt have to kill the workers" complaint isnt it?
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>>134174185
*assasin
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>>134174092
>+8 racial bonus to Sense Motive checks
Eh~
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>>134174092
>Otherwise same as the base creature.
So what was the base creature to give Ainz that chin?
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>>134135273

>implying Madhouse even tried with Overlord.

They dumped everything on their fujo comedy OPM.

Pity because Overlord still did pretty well and had great potential as a new series.
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>>134174354
He literally started as a Skeleton Mage so we probably won't ever know.
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>>134174144
>He seems to have given completely up on his humanity.
He hasnt, and thats the struggle, but remember even when he was a human, he was a roreny MMO playing faggot that couldnt let go of the idea of his Guild falling apart.
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>>134174286
Not that anon, Though Ainz (as momon) clearly asked the Workers for what did they even wanted to raid the tomb. Had they answered something else other than for the dosh they would have probably lived.
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>>134174144
>Unless he does something about it

What do you want him to do then? Notes and mope about it in every single volume? No, really, what the hell he should do anyway? He actually does try to be humane and avoid unnecessary killings of the innocents whenever possible, and even that only applies when there's nothing substantial to gain.
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>>134174539
Also he asked that the children from the yaladoboner raid were given a swift death
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>>134174029
It's true that there were signs to this early on. I remember being a bit dumbfounded when they made the leap from "yeah, I saved this village, im pretty cool" to "...and then I tortured all these guys and made them eat their own innards, because lol I'm just a giant asshole :)"

I don't mind the story being that "power corrupts" or whatever (even though I think even those themes are a bit too deep for what the author have shown so far), but there's zero tension if he's just an overwhelming force that's also just out to dick everyone over as much as possible. The few moments where the Guardians are all like "heheheh, let's torture some innocent children and drink their blood :3c" and Ainz tries to snake out of it somehow, I liked a lot. Same when he had actual reasons for being a twat, like he doesn't know what people are capable of, etc. But now, he just seems to be evil for the sake of it, with no one to oppose him.

Take this latest chapter. Why even bother with the display of killing a quarter of a million soldiers? A simple visit to the capital would be more than enough to ensure their submission. What is the practical reason? Is he planning on ruling a kingdom with no people in it? So he's straight-up evil, fine. Where's the tension? Why should I care? Why not just stop the series right there and just write:
>and then Ainz conquered the whole world since nobody could stop him, torturing and killing everyone :) the end

I guess I just hope things will get more interesting in future volumes.

>>134174071
I guess. I don't find it very interesting to follow, but I guess people might just enjoy the spectacle. (Which is fair.)

>>134174255
Absolutely, I'm looking forward to volume 10 to see how he deals with his subjects. If he at least tries to rule competently and doesn't just let his minions do as they please, I'll be pleased.
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>>134136813
I like her the most. There's no need to loud and obnoxious about it though.
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>>134174743
so like...you want to rob a bank inside of Narberal?
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>>134135882
Succulent, he has never failed his job once.
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>>134174779
No.
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>>134174655
Did we read different novels? You keep talking about him doing evil things for the sake of being evil, but I didn't see a single instance of him doing that throughout the entire series.
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>>134174743
I want to marry and cum inside Narberal!
I want to plummet the world average IQ with Narberal's help!
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>>134137347
Is that second description from JewPress? If so either they got spoiled by Maruyama which has a 99.999 repeating % of not happening, or they just didn't feel they sucked it up hard enough with NGNL and wanna set a new standard in localization.

By the time volume 3 comes out I wonder if MTL would be more accurate.
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>>134174844
Setting up the workers for failure was pretty douchy, but to be fair that wasn't his idea.
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>>134174584

Which I guess Pestonya and Nigredo tried to stop.

And semi failed.

Ok, so what are the mini factions we have in Nazarick?

Narberal supports Albedo
Solution supports Shalltear
Yuri, Pestonya and Aura, guess Mare will roll along with his sister
Uncle blue bug with Grant and Roach king

So who else?
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>>134174910
What are these mini factions about?
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>>134174940
who wins the ainzbowl.
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>>134174796

Thank you for Remembering best meido

Many thanks and good fortune for you.
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>>134143011
This. What the fuck man Ernesti just got his Gundam.
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>>134174887
It wasn't his idea, but even if it was, the primary purpose was to test Nazarick's defense systems, so he's still not just being evil for the sake of being evil.
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>>134174286
Well, as much as I disliked volume 7 for it's overindulgent edginess, I supposed it served as a decent intro to current events.

You probably have no intention of having a serious discussion on the subject, but I have to say I don't feel like the series can stand on its own if it's only going to be about either Ainz and his harem of monstergirls juxtaposed with the grim slaughter of sympathetic nobodies every volume.

>>134174392
I hope you're right, but I feel like we haven't seen many signs of that for several volumes now.

>he was a roreny MMO playing faggot that couldnt let go of the idea of his Guild falling apart
Absolutely. I don't mind him being a flawed character, but current events have put him a bit beyond that... Not to mention, being somewhat good would actually be a lot harder and balance out his power advantage a lot.

I find the Minotaur Sage to be pretty interesting on that note. He clearly thought wanted to improve the world he landed in, and although he was surely a player and as such fairly powerful, couldn't do much more than invent a few items, and ban the consumption of live humans. (And since Ainz has now has the "brain" of a skeleton, we can assume that he has the mind of minotaur, i.e. not very sympathetic to humans.) THAT sort of conflict would be interesting to watch, because unlike pure destruction, improving the world is a lot harder to achieve, even with supreme military power. (And besides, you could still have the "conquer the world" premise, it would be a means to an end.) Alas, it seems like this isn't what the author is going for.
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>>134174940

>What are these mini factions about?

Office politics I guess.

Could also be alignment issues or plain simple got along better with each other.
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>>134144457
>Plus Ultra

Tanya graduated from UA, his favorite hero was Stain.
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>>134154719
can he tell me the tale about how he lost all his friends forever?
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>>134175073
In that case we need to put Entoma Vasilissa Zeta in a major faction.
By herself.
Alone.
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>>134174655
No, not really man. Did you miss what his Momon persona do at the end? The whole setup(sasuga Ainz-sama) is that Momon would ensure that there'd be no rebellion set against him and AOG could rule E-Rantel in peace. He basically told them that as long as they submit peacefully, he'd do nothing to them. There's no need to go that far in Katse Plains, but like everyone said, an Elder Lich could care less about that and it's not like they go full evil and fuck just about everyone up just because they can. Because if they want, they can take both Empire and the Kingdom by massacring everyone there.

The fact is NW is already fuck up as it is before Nazarick got there. The Nobles in the Kingdom freely fucks their own subject as they like, the Empire is purposely fucking up the lives of many Kingdom peasants with their annual war, the demi-human eats the entire population of a city of humans. Shit's already fuck up from the get go yo.
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>>134145860
>. Considering very open ending of ep. 13

They already ruined it because Shalltear fought BS with her divine tier lance which is a complete retcon and ruins the entire premise that Kid Captain believes Shalltear has no gear and thus would lose to Certain Death.

That's just one example. There are many others. It's nearly as fucked up as Claymore anime, except Claymore anime didn't randomly retcon shit until it went original ending mode.
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>>134174993
>so he's still not just being evil for the sake of being evil.

Don;t most Evil Overlords/Ruler/Antagonists this way?

They always have a plan they do, but not for Evil's sake.

Hell if there suddenly pops out a being that is Evil for Evil's sake, they will probably nuke it.
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>>134175197
Yeah, but this anon >>134174655 heavily implied he wasn't doing it for any purpose, especially with this line:
>"...and then I tortured all these guys and made them eat their own innards, because lol I'm just a giant asshole :)"
I was just pointing out that his argument was fundamentally flawed because he was basing it on an idea that was objectively false.
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>>134175126
>Entoma
>Alone

Actually, she seems to be working under Demiurge.

Remember she was sent to kinda "support" Uncle blue bug with the lizardmen and kidnapping of Hilma?
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I WANT YURI TO TURN ME INTO A GIRL
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>>134174539
Mostly what I said in this other post:
>>134175001

But since that's unlikely at this point, I'd settle for another guild member coming back and scolding him for being such an ass. That ought to shake things up a bit and introduce a bit of much-needed tension.

>He actually does try to be humane and avoid unnecessary killings of the innocents whenever possible
Not really. Why did he kill 250.000 people last volume? Just to show off? There are more humane ways you know...

>>134174844
He submits to his subordinates' ideas, who are basically straight-up unrepentantly evil. (Because they were made that way.) Why conquer the whole world? Because he wants to and doesn't care if millions of innocent people die in the process. If that's not evil, then I don't know what is.

Of course, I don't think we should sit here and debate the nature of evil. It was more like a figure of speech. He's doing a lot of things that harm others for insufficient reasons, and he's completely unopposed.

As you no doubt noticed, my complaint is two-fold: He's evil (so there's no conflict to be had from trying to reform his NPCs) and he has nobody to oppose him (so there's no outside conflict either)

>>134174993
There are ways to test it without duping random people who have no idea what they're getting into, and then torturing them to death for following your orders. But you're right, I suppose I should be more careful with how I phrase things, as people will inevitably hop on stuff like this instead of addressing the main argument.
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>>134175334
She works under Sebas.
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>>134175364
Let's drop the term Humane - it doesn't apply to undead, which his mind is heavily being influenced by.
From my perspective, Ainz is simply prone to clinging to things he needs to let go of.
We have him as a hoarder, the whole Guild / Ygg thing, and now his humanity.
It's not something he should or should not let go of per se but something that needs to be let go of because it just isn't there anymore.
It's evidenced by him not actually caring about human deaths, simplying thinking he SHOULD care because he doesn't really think of himself as a lich, even though he is.
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>>134175166
We shall see next volume, anon. I still hold that there was no need to massacre 250.000 people just to take over E-Rantel, and the whole scene with him laughing like a child after it happened and gleefully celebrating that he "beat the high score" doesn't exactly bode well for his subjects.

>The fact is NW is already fuck up as it is before Nazarick got there
It's a very good point, and exactly why I would have preferred Ainz to be a bit more altruistic. Imagine how hard it would be for him to not destroy, but actually protect and reform the nations that exist. Like I said in the other post, the Minotaur Sage already tried something like this, and it would certainly be harder than just annihilating ants with super-tier spells, which would balance the scales, especially since he would have to trick or convince the Guardians.
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>>134175364
>Not really. Why did he kill 250.000 people last volume? Just to show off?
By demonstrating his power in such a way he has made it impossible for anyone to rise against him. Armies won't be formed because everyone knows that people only survived Katze Plains because of Gazef. This means that the only possible rebellions will happen in the form of a "highly" trained hit squad, which also is utterly incapable of eliminating him. Ainz's actions have literally ensured that no one will try, let alone be able, to oppose him.
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>>134175364
>Why did he kill 250.000 people last volume? Just to show off? There are more humane ways you know...
Like making this same 250.000 people fight against his 500 death knight? It's a war, most of them would have died just the same.
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>>134175312
>I was just pointing out that his argument was fundamentally flawed
You were just taking potshots at a phrasing while failing to address the central point.

Anyway, if you can't understand how it's a bit jarring from a narrative perspective to jump straight from being a regular modern-day MMO player to suddenly casually torturing prisoners in a single volume, I don't know what to say.
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>>134175653
Evidently I have misunderstood your point, then, because it seems to me that you are complaining about Ainz becoming evil and thus eliminating the previous interest you had in his character.
Please restate your point more concisely, if you wouldn't mind.
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>>134175537
Im still very confused about which Ainz is Momonga and which Ainz is PA during that Volume.


Maybe im just overthinking things, but heres where my confusion stems from.

When he arrives at the base, he uses a cloak to spread the fear effect instead of his skill.

During the battle, we dont see him monologue, (if he does im retarded and I need to go read vol 9 again).

And at the entrance to E-Rantel, its PA during the parade.

Can someone clear these up for me?
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>>134175364
>Not really. Why did he kill 250.000 people last volume? Just to show off? There are more humane ways you know...
The way to counter being challenged to a fight, short term, is to display absolutely overwhelming power.
Yes, he could be nice, but the thing is there will always be a desire for territory he holds, the wealth he has, knowledge he knows, etc. and when negotiations fail the next step is war.
Ainz has made the mere notion of war bullshit.
He's more or less attained Accelerator's goal of being so absurdly powerful, the mere thought of challenging him doesn't make sense.
He's killed 250k people, and it's unlikely that he'll need to kill even 1k more humans in the years to follow because nobody is retarded enough to fight him.
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>>134175848
You're overthinking. The E-Rantel scene takes place months after the battle. Months.
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>>134175848
The Entrance to E-Rantel is a good period of time after everything else, the treaty is not immediate.
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>>134175874
>He's killed 250k people, and it's unlikely that he'll need to kill even 1k more humans in the years to follow because nobody is retarded enough to fight him.
>because nobody is retarded enough to fight him.
Yeah, about that.
MUH HIME would like a word.
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>>134175364
>Not really. Why did he kill 250.000 people last volume? Just to show off? There are more humane ways you know...
In short term, yes.
In long term, no.

If he didn't make it absolutely clear that armies are completely incapable of standing against him, then the Emperor would have forged the triple alliance with Re-Estize and Slane in order to take him down, meaning there would be a grand war against him, bringing about a lot more loss of life.

He could have theoretically negotiated with the kingdom in order to gain the territories he coveted without any bloodshed.
However, if he were to do this, the scenario I mentioned before would have happened.

It should also be pointed out that since everyone thinks he is going to kill them just for lulz, showing that he is capable of doing that, but chooses not to, will help to assure them that destruction of humanity is not his primary goal.
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>>134175874
>He's more or less attained Accelerator's goal of being so absurdly powerful, the mere thought of challenging him doesn't make sense.

Until someone finds the stick. Remember, 12 WCI and all of AOG would not have stopped one faggot with the stick. So for whatever reasons, the stick lolnos everything Ainz has, including Rubedo and 'Them'.

And then when Climb finally unleashes the stick on Ainz in some penultimate climactic scene, it just turned out that since the Goblin King used it to wipe out dragons awhile ago it hasn't charged up much and does like 50 damage. Then Undead Succulent kills Climb and everyone goes back to tea while praising Ainz-sama for foreseeing beforehand the stick was uncharged.
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>>134175848
>During the battle, we dont see him monologue
He did.


>Nobody’s there.

>After Ainz deployed his magic circle, that was what he had thought.

>There were no players in the Kingdom.

>YGGDRASIL’s super-tier magic was incredibly powerful.

>Because of that, during a large-scale battle, bringing down a person who cast super-tier spells was the absolute highest priority.

>There were many ways to interrupt the casting. Teleportation ambushes. Bombardment from atop a magic carpet. Extremely long-range sniping.

>However, no attacks like these came toward Ainz. In turn, that proved that there were no YGGDRASIL players present.

>Under his mask, Ainz smiled, a fact which went unseen by anyone. Of course, the skeletal Ainz could not smile.

>The bitter smile, laced with faint traces of joy, highlighted the struggle in Ainz’s heart.

>“So, there is no longer a need to serve as bait, then?”

>His joy came from the fact that he had not met any players from YGGDRASIL.
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>>134175978
He won't though. His hime won't let him. He's on Nazarick's side even if he doesn't know it yet.
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>>134175874
>nobody is retarded enough to fight him.
From the Empires side at least, since he succesfully instilled panic in 6 of their 8 legions and finished mentally fucking the last of the 4 elites, making their military might a joke.

>>134175978
From the Kingdoms side, he not only annihilated their arm forces but also their production force, remember the army was made of conscripted peasents.

The Hime probably already has a plan to keep the kingdom from falling to pieces from hunger and poverty, but their entire political, economic and military might has been reduced to less of a city state.
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>>134175887
>>134175929

Hmm... it seems like something happened during the few mths that caused Ainz to come up with a plan like that.
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>>134176029
>And then when Climb finally unleashes the stick on Ainz in some penultimate climactic scene, it just turned out that since the Goblin King used it to wipe out dragons awhile ago it hasn't charged up much and does like 50 damage. Then Undead Succulent kills Climb and everyone goes back to tea while praising Ainz-sama for foreseeing beforehand the stick was uncharged.
I laughed.
>>134175978
And nothing of value was lost that day.
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>>134175494
>Let's drop the term Humane - it doesn't apply to undead, which his mind is heavily being influenced by.
Let's drop the semantics please.

>It's not something he should or should not let go of per se but something that needs to be let go of because it just isn't there anymore
You're thinking in purely cause/effect terms, and NOT from a narrative perspective. Do you honestly not understand what makes stories interesting in the first place?

And besides, the "themes" you mention are hardly mentioned at all. The most we get out of Ainz is how lonely he is and how he doesn't feel like he's cut out for the job, NOT that he's agonizing over his fading humanity. It's basically just a footnote at this point.

>>134175605
>By demonstrating his power in such a way he has made it impossible for anyone to rise against him.
Plenty of ways to do that without killing that many people, unless of course you think they're no more than ants (something that has been confirmed multiple times already) and thus not worth the effort of sparing at all.

>Ainz's actions have literally ensured that no one will try, let alone be able, to oppose him.
Yes, how exciting... I wish people would try to read the entire line of arguments, instead of just picking and choosing single lines and starting new arguments from there.

>>134175625
>It's a war, most of them would have died just the same.
A war that he started.

Consider that a show of force like how he did with the Empire would be more than enough to make any nation submit. (And then murder the ringleaders instead of a ton of peasants who are needed to man the farms of the nation.) This would certainly be the better option than to make absolutely everyone fear and hate him for eternity, and would even satisfy his non-existent humanity.
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>>134176074
The Kingdom also saw it, and Slane will hardly not know what happened since rumors spread like wildfire and the massive population drain is evident for anyone to see.
>>134176093
>You're thinking in purely cause/effect terms, and NOT from a narrative perspective. Do you honestly not understand what makes stories interesting in the first place?
I didn't realize you were thinking in narrative, in which case you should wait for the next fucking part in the story to SEE what the author wants to do with what you perceive to be an idiotic move.
>Plenty of ways to do that without killing that many people, unless of course you think they're no more than ants (something that has been confirmed multiple times already) and thus not worth the effort of sparing at all.
For example what?
>A war that he started.
Incorrect, he's borrowing a war that already exists.
>Consider that a show of force like how he did with the Empire would be more than enough to make any nation submit.
What show of fucking force? Did you actually not read v9c1 where Jircnev literally was determined to continue his resistance after seeing the Nazarick in full glory?
>This would certainly be the better option than to make absolutely everyone fear and hate him for eternity
I somehow doubt that is guarenteed from a single slaughter. Charlemange surely killed a whole bunch of dudes in East Francia and Saxony. Modern Germany hardly hates the dude.
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>>134176093
>Consider that a show of force like how he did with the Empire would be more than enough to make any nation submit.
>The Empire that you use for comparison is secretly trying to conspire against Nazarick

Great example dingus. You are just ignoring what those people are saying and arguing for the sake of winning an argument now. This is no different than the retards who thought Thorfinn dealt with Canute's guards in the best way possible because MUH PACIFISM.
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>>134176093
>This would certainly be the better option than to make absolutely everyone fear and hate him for eternity
Lolwut
Medieval peasants and average citizens hate or love a leader based more or less on how their economic situation develops, to put it in an simplified manner.
Do you really think say five generations down, they'll remember that someone killed a lot of people and hate him for it when they're enjoying prosperity like never before? Sure there'll be stories of his heartlessness but killing people does not make other people necessarily hate him. Look at Vlad Tepes.
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The Kingdom 1 mth after the killings is probably filled with orpahans, ppl begging for food, more robbers and other BS.

The king is probably dead too.
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>>134176093
>Yes, how exciting... I wish people would try to read the entire line of arguments, instead of just picking and choosing single lines and starting new arguments from there.
Because your argument isn't one that we can argue about.
You're saying Ainz has lost that which made him an interesting character
It might be true, it might not be, but as the change came at the end of the latest volume we have no way of knowing if it really turns out that way, if he gains other interesting characteristics, or if it even sticks. We don't know what's going to happen because nothing else has happened yet.
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>>134175753
Alright.

1. After Ainz defends the village in volume 1, he apparently immediately decides to torture the prisoners he caught for information, and kill them afterwards. This seems to be a bit too severe a change of personality, without even a single sentence describing his presumed mixed feelings at that point. This is jarring to me.

2. At the current point of time in the LNs, there is very little tension going forward because Ainz has a very primitive goal (conquest) and all the power in the world to accomplish it. If either the goal was more advanced, his power was not as overwhelming, or someone of potentially equal power were to oppose him, then those would all create tension. (Note that most shonen go exclusively for the latter, the usual powercreep bullshit, which is not what I would prefer. The middle goes against the premise of the show, therefore I would go for the first option.)
A perfect way to balance this out would be if Ainz has some sort of internal conflict, say, his humanity for example. Problem is, it's basically a non-issue at this point. He's just going for whatever Demiurge suggests, and doesn't even mind. Again, this means no tension whatsoever.

3. Personal taste of course, but the series seem to be a bit overindulgent in unmotivated violence and gore, especially upon innocents for shock value. This is reminiscent of A Song of Ice and Fire in the sense that while it's good to spring a few surprises on your audience to keep them on their toes, repeating the same "shocking" violence too many times will make it predictable and boring.

Perhaps this wasn't as concise as you would like, but certain thoughts aren't possible to shorten to single sentences.
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>>134176398
>Do you really think say five generations down, they'll remember that someone killed a lot of people and hate him for it when they're enjoying prosperity like never before?

Jirciv himself is an example of this, they call him the bloody emperor but he is still very much loved by his people.
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>>134175874
>The way to counter being challenged to a fight, short term, is to display absolutely overwhelming power.
And like I've repeated multiple times, there are ways to do that without killing a quarter of a million people, which will make everyone hate him. I find it a bit amusing with everyone who have obviously only read the quote of Machiavelli, that "it's better to be fear than loved", yet haven't read the context, which is that it is of course far better to be both loved AND feared, at the same time. If you come across as an absolute twat, it's a good way to get yourself killed. (Just look at history, the "good" roman emperors who balanced this vs. the complete cunts who were inevitably overthrown.)
Of course, Ainz probably doesn't think that could happen, because he's so powerful, right? Except no, because Ainz is described as being extremely careful and paranoid, not wanting to take risks and preferring the long game instead. The only way it makes sense is for Ainz to be too afraid of being found out by his peers, so he follows Demiurge's plan, or he's just kind of a dick who thinks it's fun to murder people.

Also, he started the fight in the first place.
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>>134176491
Orphans? I'm not so sure actually, beggars and robbers are likely but there were very few 'civilians' slaughtered (if you think of the levies as temporary military folk) so they should at least have their mothers left.
>>134176522
>1. [...]
If you realize, Ainz didn't even WANT to defend the village until he remembered his debt to Touch Me which took a glare from Sebas to show. He didn't do it out of altruism, he did it to clear the weight of Touch Me's hypothetical disapproval off his heart. He also makes it clear that it's for his personal benefit and asks Albedo to be nice for that reason, not because killing people in and of itself is a problem.
He was geniunely angered when Nigun attacked the village, not because he was going to kill the villagers but because he was going to kill the villagers that Ainz saved, which is a huge difference. Ainz is selfish, not selfless, and he's only angry because he'll have done his work for nothing if Nigun has his way.
>2. [...]
We're going forward seeing Dorfs, but more importantly this is the end of an overarching storyarc composed of three different story arcs. This implies that there will be a NEW overarching conflict starting from volume 10. His goal for the first nine volumes was to spread his name and expand his influence (to find players but he's convinced there are none nearby). That's been more or less finished as of Volume 9. From volume 10 on he'll have a new problem, which could be anything from Albedo's killsquad to the Dragon Lords to internal splintering to a hidden player to something we have no foreshadowing of. This is the reason why arguing plot is pointless, when it would be relevant had it happened around volume 7 and volume 9 was still conquering.
>3. [...]
It's not meant to be shocking. It's meant to show you that people die. ASoIaF doesn't try to shock you with death. It tries to tell you that yes, people die, and plot armor isn't a thing.
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>>134176522
I think I understand your point better now, but a word that stands out is "unmotivated." He has had proper motivation for every evil thing he has done so far, as many anons have pointed pointed out ad nauseam.
>>134176576
NotLelouch killed the nobles, though. Why would the peasants care that he killed a bunch of shitty rulers?
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>>134176018
>the Emperor would have forged the triple alliance with Re-Estize and Slane in order to take him down
Only because he started shit in the first place.

>meaning there would be a grand war against him, bringing about a lot more loss of life
Nah, he could just send a Guardian to murder the heads of state in full public view, and nobody would have dared stand against him. Hell, they might even prefer him to their former masters, especially if he acts nice.
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>>134176945
>murder the heads of state in full public view
Cause that always works, even in the real world.
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>>134176522
1. Ainz's goal is not conquest but security and finding any friends that might be stranded in the world.
2. He needs to keep up the image of overlord in order to prevent rebellion as the NPCs are capable of independent action.
3. Torturing his prisoners for information was perfectly expected, seeing that these guys totally had it coming, Ainz lost his human squeemishness and they had no knowledge of their surroundings or the world.
4. Song of Ice and Fire is not overindulgent in unmotivated violence and gore, pretty much all of it happens for a reason. Only one who was overindulgent in that area was Joffrey.
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>>134176782
>Machiavelli
And do remember that Ainz has the means to do both, but NOT before gaining territory and subjects of his own.
I mean to say he will now work on the love aspect by providing for his citizens.
There are NOT ways to do that without killing people, because even showcasing all of Nazarick before the Empire did not work.
If you wanted him to, say, showcase his power peacefully by raising a huge tower etc., that would not instill the image of death among people and more importantly might be passed off as a rumor in a generation or two.
>If you come across as an absolute twat, it's a good way to get yourself killed. (Just look at history, the "good" roman emperors who balanced this vs. the complete cunts who were inevitably overthrown.)
You're the one who hasn't read Machiavelli it seems. He says "fear is good, love is better, both is best, but never, EVER get yourself hated". Ainz hasn't gotten himself hated. He's feared by his enemies, loved and viewed with awe by his subjects (if carne and lizards are representative).
>>134176945
>he could just send a Guardian to murder the heads of state in full public view
Which would do squat besides making the subjects angry, see Archduke Ferdinand. Leaders are not powerful men, they are intelligent men who know how to manage shit.
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>>134176782
Ainz is undead.
The default expectation is that he bears hatred for the living and will kill them for his own amusement.

If he will not kill you, then they assume it's because he's too weak to do so, therefore he must demonstrate he's both capable of doing so and also choosing not to.
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>>134176945
>Nah, he could just send a Guardian to murder the heads of state in full public view, and nobody would have dared stand against him
Are you kidding me? That provides literally unparelleled good cause to rally around, because it wasn't even 'honorable confrontation' - it's assassination. A massacre is still confrontation, the Kingdom marched its own men up to him.
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>>134176945
Look how that worked during WW1.
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>>134176782
>he spouts machiavelli
>then he equates killing people with getting killed because being feared means being hated
Go read The Prince again.
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>>134177279

New ded
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>>134176945
>Started shit
If the Shalltear incident hadn't happened, then he might have just chosen to lay low.

However, the fact that there's somebody with a world class item running around that's hostile and was able to target one of your strongest subordinates without you knowing sort of makes you change your approach.
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>>134176251
>I didn't realize you were thinking in narrative
That was clear from the first post I made in this thread.

>in which case you should wait for the next fucking part in the story
I am like everyone else. I only commented that THUS FAR, I was a bit disappointed in parts of volume 9. I did say that I enjoyed other parts, but I certainly do hope that we will see more nuance ahead.

>For example what?
Killing the heads of state, showing your value to the world and fostering allies, forming a religious movement. Several ways to go about it, and it all depends on your ultimate goal.

Ainz' stated goal is to see if he can find any of his guild members, but recently it seems he has completely submitted to Demiurge's interpretation of his words, so he's just out to conquer. That's not very interesting when he already has all the tools at his disposal, with no one to stop him.

>Incorrect, he's borrowing a war that already exists.
The current casus belli for the Empire is that they're his allies and that he makes claim of parts of the Kingdom's territory. And besides, it's not like the Empire did anything but draw more Kingdom forces in. Ainz manipulated all the peasant soldiers into standing there, then killed them for his own benefit. It's all on him.

>What show of fucking force?
Killing half the royal guard and making the Emperor and his council shit themselves.

>Jircnev literally was determined to continue his resistance after seeing the Nazarick in full glory?
Yep, which is why it was an ineffective move. Repeatedly killing the heads of state and getting the people on your side would probably be a better idea than just brute-forcing their army, or baiting them into invading your tomb. But alas, Demiurge is an evil NPC, which is why he chooses the path of maximum evil.

>Charlemange surely killed a whole bunch of dudes in East Francia and Saxony. Modern Germany hardly hates the dude.
Charlemange also didn't reveal himself to be a lich.
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>>134177418
>Yep, which is why it was an ineffective move. Repeatedly killing the heads of state and getting the people on your side would probably be a better idea than just brute-forcing their army, or baiting them into invading your tomb. But alas, Demiurge is an evil NPC, which is why he chooses the path of maximum evil.
Actually it's because as long as you are not fucking retarded you realize that simply killing kings repeatedly and puppeting rulers isn't a good way to make your subjects happy.
>Charlemange also didn't reveal himself to be a lich.
Irrelevant.
>Killing the heads of state
Has never worked in the long run in the history of mankind.
>showing your value to the world and fostering allies
As an undead he is subject to eternal suspicion and there is no reason to remain as a subject when he can be the liege.
>forming a religious movement
That's true but also unlikely to be to his taste.
>Ainz manipulated all the peasant soldiers into standing there, then killed them for his own benefit
Which is true of any intelligent war, getting soldiers into the right place at the right time so you can kill them all.
>>134177547
TGOALID + Finger of Death.
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>>134177418
>Ainz manipulated
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>>134176945
>Only because he started shit in the first place.
"Hey emperor, I found a tomb with a fuckload of treasure."
"Let's invade it."
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"Oh no, the people living there got mad at me. I did nothing wrong, it's not like I broke into their house to steal all their shit. But their boss want to meet me, maybe I can still get something out of it."
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"He's to powerful and a filthy undead, I'm gonna fake being his allies and try to get him killed. Stupid filthy undead."

And no, if you said "I have a lot of cash in my house" to someone, he would still be the bad guy if he tried to steal from you.
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>>134176272
Seriously, learn to read. He could take given other terms instead of just bullying them into going to war against the Kingdom. That is what motivated the Emperor to conspire after all. Or, he could just assassinate the emperor. Plenty of options really. It depends on his goal.

>You are just ignoring what those people are saying and arguing for the sake of winning an argument now
No, you're just too afraid to accept that some people find certain parts of the LNs imperfect to have a real discussion on the subject.

>>134176398
>Medieval peasants and average citizens hate or love a leader based more or less on how their economic situation develops, to put it in an simplified manner.
Agreed, but when an inhuman monster slays 250.000 of them (because the Kingdom's soldiers are conscripts after all), this isn't just an attack on a few uppity noblemen, it constitutes an attack on mankind. The LN explicitly states that this what most humans on the field felt that day. Even the Empire's soldiers felt sick.

>when they're enjoying prosperity like never before
Well, that remains to be seen. If Ainz will for some reason stop being such an asshole now and treat his human subjects fairly, then I will accept that it might have been worth it. But as is, it's not looking too bright.

>Look at Vlad Tepes.
What an odd example. Vlad Tepes is regarded by modern Romanians to be a hero, but that didn't really matter for his situation at the time. Certainly, a lot of people supported him because they feared the muslims from the east, but I don't really see how it relates to Ainz.

>>134176495
>You're saying Ainz has lost that which made him an interesting character
No, I'm just saying I think there's room for improvement!

>We don't know what's going to happen because nothing else has happened yet.
Certainly true, but I can still hope. That is the initial reason for what I posted.
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