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Here we go again.

I was talking with a colleague and he told me that HxH (98), Shaman King (98) and Naruto (99) have a certain influence of One Piece (97), particularly because of the opening pages, which states a summary of events and the world.

He said that One Piece popularized this format. I sincerely doubt that the manga was the first to do so. But I need proof. So help me.
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>>134127723
Yes, It was.
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>>134127723
Show him the fact that OP was written before any of these series.
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>>134127723
>what is an introduction
you know, sometimes is good to know what the fuck is going on.
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>>134128320
Yeah, I have no problem with that. I just don't believe that OP was the first to use this introductory style.
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>>134127723
I dont know. Maybe Oda really has created it. Even a sports series like Haikyuu !! followed this style. Before OP, it was different (compare with Slam Dunk).
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>>134127723
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>>134127723
Hokuto no Ken already did that in 1983.
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ITT: Faggots that don't know about Hokuto no Ken.
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>>134127723
I once read some kind of ancient chinese book. It was about 4000 years old.
It also started like that. Yes Oda was the first.
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>>134129430
>>134129601
Kenshin too
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>>134127723
what is writing 101?
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>>134127723
Nah is talking bullshit. Mostly because OP didn't became a powerhouse in less than a year at least not enough to have a huge impact on other series and one page introductions are the fucking norm in Shonen Jump manga, shit DB started the same and almost every other jump manga.
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>>134127723

Devilman and Astroboy had introductions like that.
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>>134127723
>One Piece created introduction pages
What an idiot. Also >>134130388
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>>134130388
>OP didn't became a powerhouse in less than a year at least not enough to have a huge impact on other series
if something draws attention in the first three months, the editors immediately will try to copy.
>one page introductions are the fucking norm in Shonen Jump manga
but after OP it almost became a rule.
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>>134130891
>the editors immediately will try to copy.
Why the fuck would Togashi at the very least, bother to copy Oda after a year? Not only does he have a previous hit, HxH was already popular, and he doesn't have to listen to editors.

Also, Naruto's pilot was published in summer 1997 including that introduction page.
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>>134131199
>HxH was already popular
Ignore that, I'm not sure why I wrote it since it makes no sense for a first chapter. More like, he could easily anticipate it being popular.
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>>134127723
Doesn't every serialised Marvel and DC comic ever written do that?
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>>134131199
>Also, Naruto's pilot was published in summer 1997 including that introduction page.
you're right. plus, op one-shot had no introductory page.
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>>134127723
Double page spread and then an intro? That seems like something that would come natural for these type of series.

This seems like the obvious thing to do rather than a "popular format".
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then one piece didnt create shit. it is well written, but not original. whenever a series comes up, they call them generic and clich├ęd, because they follow patterns already established. but one piece was also not that way?
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>>134127723
Yugioh did it in 1996.
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>>134131588
yes, but you've got it backwards - the first page is the single-page intro, THEN you flip the page and get hit with the double-spread color.
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>>134131805
good one
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>>134127723
That just seems like an standard introduction to me. Getting some background on the world and what starts the journey of the main character. I really doubt One Piece was the first to do that style of double-spread either.

One Piece's influence on shonen manga isn't too apparent yet. Maybe influencing more of the use in blank eyes when a character is defeated, but DB and HnK did that do, albeit not much.
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>>134127723
And even after all of these years HxH is still undeniably the best battle shounen.
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>>134134093
It's good but far from flawless
Greed Island sucked
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>>134128183
That just proove Op colleague argument
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>>134134093
It would be, if Togashi remembered what a pen is
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>>134134347
Greed Island was great. It was the Election arc that sucked.
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>>134134685
the election is just build up and setting up the pieces for eternal limbo and it wrapped up better and faster than Greed island whose two thirds were all a training arc with a terrible antagonist
At least the volleyball game and everything afterwards was great
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>>134127723
Really OP? Even Ranma 1/2 did that first in 1987.
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>>134134093
HxH has sucked since Yorknew and Nen has constantly gotten more stupid
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>>134127723
Jojo did it in part 1
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