ITT pretentious shit for people who thinks they are smart.
How simple minded do you have to be to think Hyouka is, or even tries to be intellectual?
Next you'll be telling me Dragonball is deep because it tackles the themes of the difference between life and death, what it means to have true power, and is a case study on the actions of people when presented with one reality bending choice.
You're a dummy OP
...that's not an explanation at all, it's re-stating your point without supporting it with any evidence.
Is it supposedly intellectual because it talks about mysteries? Is it because there's classical music in the soundtrack? Is it because of the artsy scenes?
Because if it's because of one of the things I just listed, you're the dumb one.
>being so desperate to imply i'm mad
I'm not mad at all. It's just that "pretentious" is a meaningless buzzword, and anyone that uses it never explains any further.
It's like saying "X is shit" and then refusing to explain why you think X is shit.
>"Dragonball is deep because it tackles the themes of the difference between life and death, what it means to have true power, and is a case study on the actions of people when presented with one reality bending choice." - Anon, 2015
>thinks they are smart
ironic post right here
Pretty much this. Literally dropped this shit because of all the melodrama over fucking nothing.
I loved the hell out of the first season, but had no idea what the fuck happened in season 2. My friend warned me the second season was shit but I didn't listen.
>"Those are not fanservice in Bakemonogatari its something deep."
It can be deep and have fanservice at the same time. Don't know what's with you faggots but it seems you all share the common trait of having seen less than 30 anime and consider yourself the authority on the subject.
I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD PEOPLE ON /A/ ALWAYS CLAIM THAT FANS OF MONOGATARI SAY THAT IT'S DEEP OR THAT THE FANSERVICE HAS PLOT PURPOSE BUT I NEVER SEE ANYONE ACTUALLY SAY THAT EXCEPT THE PEOPLE WHO QUOTE THOSE "PEOPLE" THAT ACTUALLY DON'T EXIST.
NOONE EVER CLAIMED THAT MONOGATARI FANSERVICE IS FOR THE PLOT OR WHATEVER. FUCKING END YOURSELF
That's a fucking meme picture you fucking retard that was made to show how dumb people are who claim that Monogatari fanservice has any depth to it, but i've NEVER seen anyone actually claim that except the people who say that these people exist.
>Being this new
Lurk more numbnuts, there always that guy denying that the show is harem and is instead some kind of fucking great show that have no fanservice.
Stop embarassing yourself anon. The show had more problems then Iroha joining the cast.
For one thing what was a light hearted comedy turned way to serious and the sudden tone shift completely changed the show.
Seriously check out the first episode of both seasons and tell me this shows aren't completely different.
You're not smarter than those who think that they're smart, OP.
But you're surely a bigger faggot, so you should contemplate killing yourself to death.
Not pretentious because it never claims to be deep or meaningful. It's a relaxing episodic series about someone that goes around fixing arbitrary 'spiritual' problems.
Lain is everything it claims to be, and then some. To be pretentious, a series has to fail to live up to being what it purports to be. Lain is a fantastic mystery series that I can't give enough praise to.
FLCL is the anime equivalent of 'nonsense literature' such as Alice in Wonderland. Whether or not it has a deeper meaning is irrelevant because it's enjoyable on the surface.
Hyouka was such an overdirected mess. That overdid its visual language.
For some reason the smart but not so smart anime crowd thinks that's good direction.
I wish we would have more people like Hayao Miyazaki or Oshii who are in a different league in direction anime without the need of gimmicks.
Yes, that boy said something important to you. There is no need for all the sakura leaves to fly around your face.
70 posts and nobody has actually posted anything pretentious.
>How in the ever loving fuck is Psycho Pass pretentious?
Sybil takes the multifaceted nature of possibilities to commit crime and reduces it to a single number, one that isn't even taken seriously by the police themselves, except for when the plot demands it; one that stays extremely stable, except for when the plot demands it.
Someone's dispensation towards potentially committing crime and their vicinity to places where they could commit such crimes should be mapped out as separate variables. That's common sense, that would also avoid the hypocrisy towards the MC blindly obeying Sybil in regard to citizens but not enforcers (when you think about it Akane should have shot her enforcers the moment she read their Crime Coefficients, if Sybil was to be taken at word; or, her contemporaries shouldn't have had a go at her for not taking Sybil at its word later on). In addition to all of that, there's a scene in the first episode where the police are only able to check the crime coefficient of an unarmed woman by pointing a lethal weapon at her, the same weapon they just used to kill a guy right in front of her! That could literally be solved with the addition of any sort of CC-reading eyepiece or handheld device. The whole system is a farce, not because of some deep philosophical issue with crime, but because the person that designed Sybil was retarded. How on earth such a poorly constructed system would ever make it into popular use in the first place and not ever go through such obvious changes is beyond me.
Don't mock Satoshi Kon you stupid fuck. Perfect Blue was great.
Overhyped, but that's the fans being pretentious, not the show. At least they actually used the time loop mechanic with great effect and without it being repetitive.
The problem is that the anime bloggers don't have any idea about cinematic techniques.
So what left are gimmicks and a bunch of gifs, while a breakdown of a single scene can easily take several pages.
Season 2 definitely qualifies. I know they wanted to show that Hachiman's solutions in season 1 doesn't really work but they could've shown in in a better way.
Also the last episode is so fucking pretentious it hurts.
Subete ga F ni naru.
I watched the first episode, couldn't finish it because it was incredibly pretentious.
I closed it when the other guy was going on about how 7 is the loneliest number or some shit like that.
just out of curiosity. You guys are saying that every anime that has a minimum plot is pretentious, so what would be non-pretencious smart anime? just asking, cause I'm now thinking that I've never watched one, since everyone is saying that every anime is bullshit.
Something like Serial Experiments Lain isn't pretentious because it follows through and exceeds expectations.
Something like Gakkou Gurashi! isn't pretentious because its themes are left hidden in the narrative and never forced onto the viewer.
Considering all the people who whined about "muh no kiss end" I seriously doubt that the biggest part of Hyouka audience are even clever enough to think of themselves as "smart".
Okay I'll dive in to this mess. Monogatari as whole is supernatural drama and action that needs silly comedy and sexual overtones to balance out the amount of monologue and dialogue that goes on in the series. Thats why each and every time there's 5 to 10 minutes of dialogue the world suddenly goes trippy and things start moving around and all the other stuff that happens, its to keep things from getting boring.
On the surface, the nudity, incest, and psychedelic shit is fanservice. But on a deeper level its done to point out how insane, absurd, and silly the very things that are going on in the series is. Insecure lolis becoming snake gods of death, lesbian high school girls with monkey arms lying naked in their room, covered in sweat, shame, and self-angst waiting for some boy to arrive. Its all meant to distract you from the fact that the entire scene makes no sense whatsoever and is perpetually boring. Because you'll watch a nonsense scene of 6 minutes of dialogue if it has titties and ass in it for the first 2 minutes.
If you're in your 20's or a teenager you're easily fooled by all the ecchi and fanservice in the Monogatari series. If you're much older it doesn't fool you as easily and it makes you wonder if you've become so jaded that you can't simply enjoy anything anymore. Or that you become wise enough to not let your intelligence be so easily insulted.
>Hyouka was such an overdirected mess
>That overdid its visual language
You do realize they did so because they knew that the source material was unexciting and not made to be animated rigth? Why do you think they put moepenguin chitanda there?
>For some reason the smart but not so smart anime crowd thinks that's good direction
It's blatantly trying too hard the moment they put pink filters with heart shaped pendulum to convey the message that "GIRL" and "PHEROMONE" was happening.
Alright, /a/nons. What are some intellectual anime for intellectuals such as myself?
Pic related is only for the highest of IQs
I loved it but it really tried to hard to be smart and philosophical while actually being really simplistic
>You do realize they did so because they knew that the source material was unexciting and not made to be animated rigth?
Funny that they did it way better in K-On S2 when it was just about 5 girls doing nohting for two cours.
I actually believe that CGDCT is for the people that only give value to the enjoyment that the anime offers and doesn't give a damn about the elements outside this context.
In a sense, the truly smartest ones.
>On the surface, the nudity, incest, and psychedelic shit is fanservice. But on a deeper level its done to point out how insane, absurd, and silly the very things that are going on in the series is.
You're drawing a connection that makes no sense.
We have a winner.
I love how /a/ went from liking this as a solid anime to circlejerking the ever loving fuck out of it to being the best anime ever. Jesus is bad on here sometimes.
Anyone who says they enjoyed this anime but thought it was decent is torn to shreds.
That comparison is retarded but I bet you think you're fucking clever for pointing it out. Never mind the fact that you're implying k-on s2 was visually interesting and a triumph on kyoani's part.
Some people are just in a different league.
attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed.
When does Haibane Renmei attempt to affect great importance or merit? Remember that leaving specific details open to interpretation isn't the same thing as affecting great importance.
It will always be mine as well.
it is in some ways. after the first episode of Oogaigarai i stopped watching.
actually it makes a lot of sense. Think about the scenes throughout the series where incest, nudity, and other nonsense were involved. If you know anything about human interaction then you know it makes no sense. Why would Monkey continue lying openly in the nude when she knew Aragari was coming over? Why did Crab basically walk out of the shower nude in front of Aragari, when she had only met him a few days ago? Much of the sexual behavior makes no sense and it goes well with the entire supernatural aspect which makes no sense and barely has a decent explanation. Hell Aragari is the perfect example of the nonsense of the series. One moment he's a hero willing to sacrifice himself for anyone he meets, but he talks about how he no longer gives a fuck about the world. He can't seem to even get a boner for his love interest, but basically molests his sisters and a ghost loli. The boy ain't right i tell ya.
Except no one will ever say a show is smart because everyone knows that'll happen. What ends up happening is a bunch of people false flag some shit so they can continue shit posting about how a smart anime is pretentious.
It's all fucking retarded.
>I didn't even read the fucking thread.
no-one cares about your opinion, desu.
>Remember that leaving specific details open to interpretation isn't the same thing as affecting great importance
It kinda is as it's an effective mean to pretend there is more thought behind something than there actually is by making viewer think there is something to decipher for him while the author may really just have written what's going on "on the surface" for aesthetic reasons (not like there's anything wrong with that).
That's why you'll often see people criticize Evangelion using christian symbols that don't really have too much to do with the actual themes of the series.
I'm personally not a fan of using the word pretentious on entertainment at all but if I was I'd consequently have to use it on Haibane Renmei
agreed. Psycho-Pass is pretty fucking pretentious.
Kogami is still my husbando.
The setting of Haibane Renmei was deliberately left obscure for two good reasons. Firstly, drawing the attention away from the mysterious setting kept the focus on the drama present in character interactions. Secondly, it allowed the audience to more effectively relate to Rakka, who also knew very little about what was going on: a 'common ground' of sorts.
Sure, but if you believe that there's no point in calling anything pretentious in the first place since everything can be upgraded from "pretending to be smart" to "actually smart" by your interpretation.
Why does it seem like 90% of the time a show is called pretentious, it's actually the fans that tend to be pretentious, and not the show itself?
ITT: The same shitposter who's still mad that he was too stupid to understand Hyouka and is mad at the people who talk it up for being a masterpiece
Life must be hard in the slow lane.
>Visual symbolism and metaphors are now overdirecting
So basically, you're taking a highlight of the series and pretending it's a negative by saying it as a buzzword? I'm going to guess you either didn't watch the show or didn't understand it on the off chance that you did watch it, and then just took an aspect people praised it for (that went entirely over you head) and decided to try to turn it into a complaint.
Great job getting other idiots to bite.
>Visual symbolism and metaphors are now overdirecting
It's blatantly trying too hard the moment they put pink filters with heart shaped pendulum to convey the message that "GIRL" and "PHEROMONE" was happening.
There's symbolism and there's that ultra clumsy and unsubtle vomit for idiots.
Glasslip was so fucking terrible, it killed Kaylith and created Caffeine
>where are my explosions?
>where are my tits and perv jokes?
>they talk too much I feel sleepy
>it must be pretentious shit for people that think they're smart.
I dropped the show at first because it was heavy and felt asleep first couple of episodes but I gave it another chance later and once I got absorbed into the plot and characters I had a really enjoyable experience.
So in a sense the show changed me a little did I became smarter or just more pretentious?
I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet. GITS 2 was the biggest sack of pseudo-intellectual gibberish I've ever seen.
Oh but I watched it and found it bullshit, the bloom is annoying, the word bends on Oreki whims.
Can you be fine with my opinion or are you going to downplaying it saying that I have some kind of decease?
I loved the first season when they were just solving random shit. It was close to Hyouka in some way which I enjoyed a lot.
Then S2 happened and it's like the writer bumped their head and forgot what he was doing before. The lack of communication and the amount of metaphors and the ambiguous dialog just to seem 2deep4u was to much to handle. Even after the countless threads analyzing this piece of shit I still don't completely understand what the hell happened and why they were fighting in the first place instead of talking about it.
The problem is that some shows are actually pretentious (like Subete ga F), but idiots who think everything is pretentious prevent any really dialog from happening.
>There's symbolism and there's that ultra clumsy and unsubtle vomit for idiots.
So you're supporting my claim that you didn't watch the show by taking one scene and using hyperbole to imply the entire show was like that? Yes, a few scenes were overt on purpose and they looked beautiful. Those weren't meant to be subtle and thought provoking, they were meant to hit you with a large amount of character emotions conveyed through visuals (because it's a visual fucking medium) as opposed to banal dialog.
"Overdirected" just means "They actually put effort into directing it." You're an idiot.
Deep into the delicious bodies and loliservice maybe. I wouldn't say it's pretentious or deep. It tries to be clever with some jokes and dialog, but nothing too extreme or symbolic beyond fan theories. Like as if it was trying to parody stuff that is pretentious. But that is probably projection or a form of pretentiousness itself. Hyouka is pure boring though.
>implying pretentious people like "pretentious" shows and not obscure childrens shows from the 70s or /m/-shit
Most shows that get called pretentious are too entry level and rec-list tier for a really pretentious fanbase
>"Overdirected" just means "They actually put effort into directing it." You're an idiot.
Explaing too much things to your watchers is usually bad etiquette, it's just like you say: "I think you guys are not smart enough".
There is a difference between problems like murder and disappearances and saving the world to oh hey we need someone to help me play tennis/hooking someone up/setting festivals and training camps. Same with hyouka.
I dunno it just felt like that to me and I'd put all of their "problems" on the same level.
I do enjoy these comfy shows though.
>Explaing too much things to your watchers
You're right in that explaining everything is bad. Conveying emotion through over the top visual style isn't bad, especially in a visual medium, and especially when the visuals are on fucking point and can get a series of emotions across in seconds (that pink filter scene told a short story and lasted all of a minute on screen). Having every scene be full of internal monologue from the MC explaining every thought he has and every thought he "deduces" the other characters are having would be bad in the sense that it doesn't let you think. Don't equate a few visual feast scenes to shit like that.
So you are so fucking stupid that you didn't even "get" Hyouka, then got mad because you couldn't face your massive retardedness and started crying and calling it pretentious.
GJ fag, please kill yourself, you already lost at life.
>I dunno it just felt like that to me and I'd put all of their "problems" on the same level.
They are not remotely comparable. Hyouka doesn't tackle murder mysteries, but the "problems" in Yahari and the ways the solve them are all literally autistic teenagers who aren't even remotely human going about their autistic lives.
>It's still mundane stuff
No, Yahari is literally retarded stuff and saying "They solved problems so they're alike" is like saying Toradora and Dragonball are GiTS are similar because they both had fighting.
Yahari wins a plenty of awards, but what about hyouka?
I tell you a secret: Yahari characters acts like usual (and believeable) teenagers, but Hyouka characters pretends to be genius. Get it?
Do you really believe the difference between two slice of life shows is the same as the difference between Toradora and Dragonball?
You don't have to take my words that literally.
Should I rephrase it to "they both had similar themes even though yahairu dealt with it in a completely autistic way"?
>Yahari characters acts like usual (and believeable) teenagers
>Yahari characters acts like usual (and believeable) teenagers
What a story, Mark.
Why Hyouka end was so shitty?
>muh character development and personal growth
>episode earlier, near punches his friend in a face just because he afraid of relationships
>still a beta faggot who can't even confess to girl
>people shill calling this a good writing and even a masterpiece sometimes
>Do you really believe the difference between two shows that don't share any real similarities outside of a very basic ideas is the same as the difference between two shows that don't share any similarities outside of a very basic idea?
>Using the word beta
>Typing like a mouthbreathing ESL retard
>Thinking an adaptation of an ongoing series will end everything instead of just ending at a point where the character is more developed than he was at the start
You're an idiot.
>Yahari characters acts like usual (and believeable) teenagers
You got me. Here's your (you).
I never really bought Oreki being a genius. Certainly all of the other characters in that show were constantly reminding me of how amazing he was, but I never quite saw it. I figured most of the "mysteries" out the second they explained what the problem was, because the answer was always the most obvious answer. The only ones I didn't figure out were the festival arc one because it went on for so long and I lost interest and episode 19 because that was just flat out retarded. I guess my biggest complaint with Hyouka is how much the show dick rides Oreki the entire time.
Oh wow Oreki you are so amazing!
Nah, I'm just a normal guy it was merely coincidence that I figured it out.
Oh and he's modest as well, amazing!
I couldn't stand that.
I'll give you a short and sweet answer. Neither the butcher, nor the person who took over in S2, have the clout to commentate on society as a whole, and yet they both attempt to.
I still consider season 1 a decent watch, though.
>everything is completely different unless it's exactly the same thing
By that logic I can dismiss any two shows as different because they have different characters but both have the very basic idea of having characters
As author, you need to be a genius to make a believeable genius character, otherwise it will be another mary sue.
Plenty of underages likes Oreki because he is intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour
But that what I was saying from the very start. The problems they fix are trivial and relate more to simple daily tasks rather than "muh emotional baggage" like say monogatari or 7 witches or whatever. Meanwhile you just go on and on that the way the solved said tasks is different thus the shows are nothing alike.
i was thinking about picking it up because /a/ loved it so much and i wanted in on the meme game, what was bad about it?
is this nigger fucking serious?
Nothing. It's your usual man vs machine stuff with a bit of equilibrium thrown in. The themes they deal with don't seem pretentious at all to me.
Second season is a bit lacking compared to the first but that's about it.
>You see, funny story
EVERY TIME, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Is he supposed to be a genius, or just clever enough to impress typical high schoolers? Solving those "mysteries" without the benefit of the audience perspective isn't amazing, but it's decently smart.
I don't remember the show doing much to make him seem brilliant beyond impressing his friends.
>I don't remember the show doing much to make him seem brilliant beyond impressing his friends.
lurker here, Hyouka was good. it didnt bore me, but at the same time i wouldn't say it was a masterpiece
shitposters gonna shit and cry about animus that made them think they're pretentious and the inner hipster will tell them to hate it. just leave them be
>yahari and hyouka
>toradora and dbz
how mad are you to try and make a connection with these to try and make a point? different anon here, but you should make better examples
Jesus, I could see this being said about Kekkai Sensen or Kyousougiga, where the excessive visual direction actually gets in the way of the story telling and muddles the plot unnecessarily, but all the director did in Hyouka was be expressive.
The direction wasn't about constant symbolism and poetry and subtly conveying hidden messages or some shit. It's the faggots that try to argue this shit that make this show sound pretentious, when that obviously wasn't the intention. The direction is just meant to add a little magic into the portrayal of everyday life, to make the world more stimulating and beautiful, even though it is our everyday world.
Also, you're obviously retarded since the scene you're criticizing was a purposely exaggerated dream sequence -- he didn't actually say that shit aloud in case you didn't notice.
is this what what kids say nowadays when they're not done their middle school english homework?
>The direction is just meant to add a little magic into the portrayal of everyday life, to make the world more stimulating and beautiful, even though it is our everyday world.
And they overdid it.
It's been years so maybe I'm just forgetting, but how? He solves some problems, and people that couldn't solve them are impressed. He's not outsmarting the greatest criminal minds in the world or anything.
>Evangelion for starters.
Hyouka was basically running from one melodramatic scene to the next one, while the theme of the show was just trivial nonsense.
Stuff like Hyouka happens when people don't trust the story, plot and characters to carry the show.
>5 seconds per minute
Bahaha, you're so retarded. It's 5 centimters per second, and I agree. I tried to watch it with a friend and we couldn't stop laughing at all the people speaking in poems. No natural dialog at all. It was stunning to look at, though.
Except they didn't at all. There were like, what, 5 extremely visually exaggerated scenes in the whole show? And they were all Chitanda/Oreki scenes, so it was consistent. Anything else was just good animation.
all these dubs and you're still telling yourself i'm samefagging
>>134133831 how mad, anon-kun?
>having good animation and direction
>suddenly that means the plot and characters were too weak to carry the show
I don't agree with this at all, the visuals were beautiful but they didn't overpower any other aspect of the show, in my opinion. Unlike in Kekkai Sensen, not once did the visuals actually changed how you would have perceived the plot. They made have added details and understanding, as they should, but the lady in charge of Kekkai Sensen straight up fucked up the plot by doing crazy visual shit.
What you're complaining about is just not liking the story and characters, which is fair. But trying to blame it on the directing, when the directing was, if not great, at least completely benign, is utterly incomprehensible to me.
Name some. And don't say the visuals that coincide with Oreki explaining his solutions and that shit because that's not an exaggerated portrayal of daily life by any means.
Things like him meeting Chitanda and him think about confessing to Chitanda were exaggerated portrayals of daily life. What are some other instances where this happened? Him in the tea house with blue senpai? What else? I honestly can't think of any other scenes to support your stupid ass fucking complaints.
If it's one thing more retarded than Ping Pong, it's Ping Pong's fanbase.
>hyoukafags still shitting on fanservice in other shows
>And don't say the visuals that coincide with Oreki explaining his solutions and that shit because that's not an exaggerated portrayal of daily life by any means.
>It doesn't count because reasons.
came here because i knew you faggots would mention it.
so im just going to claim my waifu.
Look, retard, I'm not even trying to defend the content of the show. If you didn't like the story or characters, fine, call it shit, I don't care. Those are completely valid complaints, considering the plot and drama were pretty fucking heavy-handed at times.
I just can't comprehend how someone could blame the directing/visuals for this. It's purely a writing issue. The show was average in every aspect EXCEPT the visuals, and that's what people pick on to call it pretentious?
What I see is this: Hyouka had average writing, and great visuals. Now people call it pretentious because of the one thing it was actual good at, instead of the one thing people praise but it was actual mediocre at. How is this logical? Why are people this retarded?
And that's exactly the center of the entire story. You and I already agree while viewing the show that Sybil is retarded. So how can an entire country agree to run it? We then discover that their society is actually an oligarchy where sociopath's minds take decisions and judge others (the fact that they even invite makishima shougo to join them is pretty much a proof of that) and want to maintain that kind of status quo.
Second season aside, the movie reaffirms this: Sybil also has imperialistic desires and makes a very complicated plan to expand its influence outside Japan, and Kogami (the "hero" of our point of view) wants to stop this. It's more of a dictatorship, big brother, or whatever you wanna call it.
First season's plot was interesting and entertaining, I personally enjoy these kind of "chases" after an unknown and unidentified enemy, and the subplot was indeed how their society was improperly managed, and only a few, Akane and her crew, realized that. The contradictions of the system are real (like you underline: the facts that not event eh enforcers of this system themselves believe in it) and that's exactly what drives the characters.
>says visuals are unrealistic and exaggerated
>tries to defend this fact with scenes that aren't even real and are exaggerated for the sake of the reveal
Because that makes sense.
There is nothing wrong with a story about boys and girls doing trivial things. 4/5 of all youth literature works this way.
Is just the overselling it as a mix of Sherlock Holmes and coming of age drama, that hurts the show.
This shit is the most pretentious show I've seen in a while.
Exactly, EXACTLY, and that's a writing problem, not a visual problem.
So? It has good visuals, it should be praised for that. Does that alone make it a 10/10 show? No, and you're right that the people who say that are stupid. But just because the rest of it is meh doesn't mean people can't point out the aspects that were good.
Intelligence is not an emotion or a state of mind. It's a human property, which can't be altered significantly by just watching chingchong cartoons, just like watching anime can't immediately transform you into a bodybuilder.
I actually agree, but I understand many of the complaints people have about the writing. In particular, many of the mysteries themselves were heavy-handed and their solutions were sometimes unsatisfactory. I also think that the characters were fantastic, though.
i dont get it. a show has a fanservice scene here and there and people immediately jump on it? what's next, getting mad at swords for being cliche?
you cancerous fags will argue about anything almost to the point where you'd fit well with the tumlblr-tards
maybe it was because i was sick, or i was cold, but i dropped this shit so hard when they kept trying to show all these abstract backgrounds and camera angles
was there any merit to this show after episode 1?
Were you the one complaining about Kyousougigs earlier? I loved the directing in that, it was so lively imaginative. I felt that it never got in the way of the plot. It did get really rushed towards the end because it was crammed in 11 episodes though.
Not the same dude, but I think we could agree that "feeling smart" in an anime is like "I got that reference".
You watch something and notice a small detail that otherwise a less intelligent person so to say would have ignored.
No, I wasn't. I like Kyousougiga and I appreciated what the director was trying to do, but at times it didn't succeed as well as she wanted. I think part of the problem is that it was anime-original and the plot was kinda underdeveloped as a result. I think Kyousougiga was solid overall though.
Kekkai Sensen, on the other hand, was treated HORRIBLY with her directing style. Instead of learning from Kyousougiga, her bad habits worsened and the plot was fucking disregarded. I was looking forward to her growth, but she regressed instead.
Exactly, people begin to think they're super smart because they watched evangelion and start spewing retarded pseudointellectual bullshit, despite the fact that they are clearly not geniuses.
I'm of the opinion that there aren't really pretentious anime, in a sense. There are pretentious directors/studios/whatever, and there are pretentious audiences. Any show in itself is not pretentious, it is up to either the intent of the producer or the interpretation of the audience.
man, anime sure looked like shit before kyoani
I agree. And there's nothing wrong with liking a show with a lot of references (personally I like those that reference other anime), as long as you don't go around saying it's the most intellectual and deep thing ever.
mfw you couldn't follow what battler was going through when he was sitting down with beatrice
What about this? It's impressive how everything today is flat and shadows are nonexistent. During renaissance we invented chiaroscuro and now we're going back.
Those are from the same anime. Same episode even.
i think that's what OP should have said from the beginning, seeing as how that's the problem/cancer of every anime
except guilty crown
fuck guilty crown
how many times are we going to recycle this routine, anon?
> Those are from the same anime. Same episode even.
dear god /a/ has it really come to this
>he show goes out of its way to show you how amazing Oreki is.
Except everyone jumped on his throat for fucking up the movie ending and the riddle during the school festival was only solved by him because every single itty bitty clue to figuring it out fell onto his lap while he literally sat on his ass for almost three days straight. Anyone given a truckload of information he does along with persistent badgering from other people can reach the same conclusions he does. The Approximation of the Distance of Two was pretty much him scouting for information from dawn to dusk by moving at a slow-ass pace.
He's perceptive, but it's not like he's some sort of prodigy uncovering the mysteries of the world. It's just high schooler shit that the rest of the cast cannot solve due to either not being strong lateral thinkers or simply not giving a shit.
He just went for whatever conclusions were valid from the premises, and it turned out he was right. If he hadn't gotten it right, /a/ would still just complain about it being another "meaningless pretentious episode".
If I'm going to be lecturing someone for improperly lecturing someone else about English I might as well punctuate properly, although I wouldn't ever admonish someone for not capitalizing or punctuating on an imageboard. Grammar's my sole gripe.
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