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Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
There can definitely be a warm up period where you have to get into the swing of things, and the period after your warm up sees you get better.
However, after a few hours, you kinda start to lose focus. I've found a few times that towards the end of my reading, I started running into more and more things that I couldn't understand. So, rather than lose parts of the story, I stop playing. Then I come back the next day, and those parts are easy.
Be lazy and never succeed.
Sometimes I wonder if learning a foreign language to masturbate to erotic games featuring drawings of underage children, at the expense of socialising with other people or contributing to society is really a good idea.
Why the hell is を at the end of a sentence? I get that there is neither a subject nor a topic specified since it's the continuation of a monologue about an unwanted guest which is spending time with the speaker's master, but I still can't wrap my head around this
It isn't, but it's not like we would be socializing anyways
Humans already do enough mindless socialising, in fact that is pretty much all the lowest common denominator does.
They are also the greatest burn on human intellectual, industrial and intellectual progress.
>brush one's cheek with someone's
>rub one's cheek against someone's
The reviews are when the words actually nail themselves into your long term memory, and the longer you wait, the longer you have to forget, and the less chances you have to review the word. So yes, you absolutely need to get your reviews down to zero every single day. You're actually making life harder on yourself by setting a review limit for purposes other than splitting your reviews up throughout the day.
If you have too many reviews for your schedule/capacity to focus, tough it out and lower the amount of new cards that you're doing every day by five.
If you want to keep reviews low then
1. keep your new cards low
2. hit easy more often
3. adjust starting ease, easy bonus, and/or interval modifier (If you know what you're doing)
The only time limiting reviews regularly won't result in a pileup of reviews is when you could have gone through it normally like a good ankek
FUck captcha it's taking up the whole screen and I couldn't see or type my message without zooming out
The only circumstance where it's acceptable to hit easy is when you know the word so well that you can recognize it without even thinking about it, as if it were a word in your native tongue, and you're sure that you'll never forget it. If you can hit easy, you can basically delete the card from your deck with no consequences.
Otherwise, hit good if you get it right relatively easily, and hard if you struggle or possibly when you get it "close enough" (for example, you say きゅう when it's きょう) and when it'll just push it back less than a month.
There is no universal best way, all people have different ways of learning and necessities. I for example use Genetickanji for learning new characters and Obenkyo for doing reps while commuting
To people worried about thinking in English instead of Japanese: Get your reading skills up a bit, and then put a concentrated effort into your listening skills. If you're reading VNs, you can work on both at once, using the VN text as a transcript (a text parser can come in handy here).
You can't think in English while listening. You don't have time. You understand it either as Japanese or as a jumbled mess.
>You can't think in English while listening. You don't have time. You understand it either as Japanese or as a jumbled mess.
This is why you should start watching anime without subtitles (sol-shit and the like, that is) as soon as you learn some grammar and vocabulary. (in my case I started watching sol-shit without subs when I was half-way through Tae-Kim and knew about 1500-2000 words)
Instead, most faggots think that waiting until they are masters of grammar and know +25000 words before watching anything without subs is the best course of action.
The text is handwritten, so it was hard to interpret, but I'm pretty positive it's actually 問答, with 問 using the shorthand version of the 門 radical (like it was used for 時間)
Japanese in general is unintuitive as fuck
>let's use the writing system and the vocabulary of an analytical, tonal language in our agglutinative language that has like fifty different phonemes at most, what could ever go wrong?
As in, they took the writing system and vocabulary from a language that works on a completely different paradigm and forced it onto their language, for all kinds of funny results
That doesn't mean they had to take most of their vocabulary from Chinese together with the characters
Same could be said about Finish, Estonian, Hungarian, Turkish and some Austronesian languages forcing the Latin alphabet upon themselves, they work, badly, disgustingly badly, but they work.
But my chinese erotic games aren't written in Finnish or Hungarian! And besides, a phonetic alphabet has much less potential for fuckery than a pictographic one
Goddamn every single thread on /a/ is shit right now, it's like school's out or something. No choice but to do some reading practice I guess.
add a k infront of uchi, and you get the kuchi, the word means house or home in my language
Every day I am more and more convinced Serbs are long lost brethren of the Chinese/Japanese
>Please consider what situation we're in now.
>Or please consider what time of year it is, it's fucking cold in these skimpy clothes
Oh yeah that's probably it
I always assumed that it was related to 'temper' and thought it meant "how quick a person is to anger". It's not too off, I think, but
" the combination of mental, physical, and emotional traits of a person; natural predisposition. " is what the dictionary says.
If you can't understand it you can't understand it. Watching without subs isn't going to magically increase your comprehension yet sometimes subs can be useful for quick reference to check your comprehension on the fly which in turn can make it easier to deduce further surrounding things from context that you can take away and learn from.
There is no shortcut to "thinking in a language" as it ultimately boils down to dominance of comprehension in the given context. The adult brain can't simply shut down and start thinking like a child if it has already build up an extensive and complex knowledge network of concepts and meaning attributed to language. After enough continual comprehensive input you'll naturally start to focus less on things like subtitles as it is actually easier to let yourself focus on the spoken language because 1. the comprehension is there and 2. the context is easier to follow overall from the visual queues in association with what is being said.
>Instead, most faggots think that waiting until they are masters of grammar and know +25000 words before watching anything without subs is the best course of action.
These straw people would get a hell of a lot more out of unsubbed anime than those with fuck all vocabulary and structural comprehension. I'm surprised people to this day still spew out repackaged versions of AJATT blog posts. The science doesn't support your rhetoric. Your ego is the only basis here.
>How did 面白 end up meaning “Interesting”?
>According to 語源由来辞典 ( http://gogen-allguide.com/o/omoshiroi.html ), 「面白い」 is originated from 「面白し」. 「面」 used to mean "a sight/view" (the source says the front of eyes) and 「白い」 used to mean "bright and clear." Then 「面白し」 later came to mean "a light/bright sight/view" and then later "a beautiful sight/view". It further came to mean "fun" or "comfortable", which represents a pleasant feeling.
>not supporting the creators of compelling content that you enjoy
>not having a physical collection of compelling content for when the end times come and there will be no electricity
キノの旅 mostly at the moment, I love surrealism and shit that's just completely disconnected from the real world so it's right up my street
Does anyone know any other good reading material similar to this that isn't super hard? (I can just about make my way through kino)
Fucking Flyable Heart, because I read on the thread that just reading manga is bad. I'm bored out of my fucking skull and I had to mute MAKKUSU because he's suck an annoying little brat. Robot brat.
Sometimes it feels like core is trying its best to brainwash me and turn me into a weeb.
>tfw a restaurant near me names themselves after kid dicks
>I hate Japanese food, fuck soy fuck steamed rice and fuck raw fish
Dude what no you can't be real aaaaaah reported fuck that's a violation the rules whatever you're hidden go away troll.
I really don't see the appeal of sashimi. I've eaten octopus, prawn, tuna, geoduck, salmon sashimi at expensive Japanese restaurants and I just can't get into it. There's really no taste or texture that makes it worth eating, and yes I did use wasabi and soy sauce. Their cooked foods are infinitely more palatable to me at least.
I honestly don't understand how someone can feel that way. I find it easier to understand when people think raw fish (or sometimes fish in general) is disgusting, but sashimi has remarkable flavor.
I plan on doing a last minute 4 day long cram session right before the jlpt. Im just gonna read my jlpt study books over and over again till its down pat, and listen to some audio on the side. Anyone got some suggestions, besides a 4 day long anime marathon?
Oh trust me prawn and octopus sashimi are disgusting. I needed a lot of wasabi to finish it. That stuff really clears your nasal pipes by the way.
I'd much rather have ramen or katsudon or soba or just regular grilled fish. My dad abhors raw foods so I guess that passed on to me haha.
Not too bad but it got a bunch of technical terms in some parts, like related to philosophy and psychology.
Also there is a lot of references to other works. Alice in Wonderland, norse mythology, etc. I especially recommend reading the plot summary of Cyrano de Bergerac, it's referenced a lot and is quite important to the story so far, you'll be doing yourself a favour if you know the gist of it before you start reading.
Why did Japan think it was a good idea to have 4 vowels that only make 2 sounds?
Look at this shit.
It's fucking impossible to tell the difference unless it's very carefully sounded out. Given Japanese operates at a pace almost twice as fast as English, it becomes indecipherable pretty quick.
Those aren't the same at all. You have hearing problems or just beginner's frustration syndrome.
These are actually pronounced the same, but that doesn't mean う and お are the same. う and お are completely different sounds but, for reasons, as a rule, when う comes after an お syllable you pronounce it as お.
Anyone here ever tried reading White Album 2? I hear the translation team is awful so I guess reading it raw is going to be my very end goal of learning Japanese. Just wondering how difficult it's considered.
Is it socially acceptable to ask your japanese professor about how to translate lewd stuff?
I mean they know about the anime and manga culture so they know what their students do, right?
So I need to start learning Kanji/Vocab while practicing Grammar today (transitioning from Kana).
I grabbed Anki and the Core2K/6K deck last night and tabbed up the Tae Kim guide for grammar. Is doing these two in parallel good enough for beginner material vocab/grammar or should I add a Japanese Grammar deck to Anki to supplement?
I also need to ask if the default settings for Anki are ideal as far as reviews/new cards/intervals go. Haven't payed attention when lurking the threads earlier since I was still on Kana.
I've read Tae Kim really only covers up to beginner level grammar so I feel I should have a contingency plan once that well runs dry.
Any advice, /djt/? My compelling content awaits.
Since I started reading physical media I've learned one thing for certain... rikai, glossator, google search, etc. are godsends. I own casio ex-word, so physical media word lookup is as fast and easy as it can possibly be , and it still isn't even close
Oh man I fucking remember that game and being slightly annoyed the third one wasn't released in English. Finishing it completely tanked my mood because I realized there was no more. I guess I have some compelling content of my own to go get now I can actually read it.
As for your actual post, fuck, I took a really unorthodox path I can't advise at all since it was slow as shit. Sorry.
Tae Kim covers enough to start reading. You'll still encounter stuff you don't know but as long as you aren't too stupid to google or look things up there's no problem.
DOBJG deck is probably a good idea too just because people here go through tae kim fast so you need to try to actually retain a decent amount of basic grammar somehow
And my parents told me not to play with my food!
Damn that looks handy. I had something like that when I was studying Chinese. Isn't there some software that does the same thing with the DS? I've seen it posted here before.
ありがとう。Both seem like sound advice (balance is important). Anyone have a link for the DOBJG Deck?
>>134127614 Set mine to 1000 for now since the prospect of over 3000 per day down the line just seems too time consuming for one session.
Not my footage. Believe me, I know. Like somebody put an interpolation filter in an emulator and then covered it with some shitty AA filtering. Took the caps from this video since I don't have the (J) ROM handy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKUzjG-Leoo
Hm. His hair is kinda faggy. Maybe he was just growing it out and it's stuck in intermediate hell, but if he cut it to that length deliberately no wonder he can't get a girlfriend.
Let's not get into this here further since it's nether /pol/ nor /r9k/ but /a/, but suffice it to say that: yes, there are some women who are attracted to crazy murderers. However, there is a contingent of men who feel the same way, for example all of the guys saying "I want to fuck Casey Anthony" back when that case was going on. Most online posts claiming things like these are joking, and the ones that aren't jokes should just be ignored. Anyone who actually would want to be in a relationship with a murderer, regardless of gender, is crazy and should be avoided.
Holy fuck I posted it as a joke but sure whatever.
what the fuck kind of translation is this
It's called 漢字そのまま
ofc, you can always
download the roms, and if you have a physical DS, there are cheap cartridges that essentially plug a custom bootloader and your microsd card full of roms into your ds.
What I'm saying is no one with a handsome face will have any problem finding a girlfriend as long as he has the social skills. If dealing with a younger counterpart having no social skills would be okay as well. The game of 'love' always comes down to looks and money.
Regardless of whether he is a murderer, or insane, this kid will have no problem getting a girlfriend thanks to his face. 10 years down the road if he doesn't become a neckbeard he'll be fucking girls left and right.
The story is a hoax anyways
I'm from richmond, thought it interesting that it hadn't made any headlines at all
Picture came from here
Could someone help me pick up exactly what does the dude in this say after "aba-yo'"? I could pick up just the いい旅 bit but I'm not really 100% certain on what he's saying, just that he's being sarcastic on wishing a "nice trip".
I' having a tough time wrapping my head around this bit. Particularly the purpose を serves here in making "bloodied girl" the direct object of average intelligence. Does it just mean that she's of average intelligence? Here's the whole sentence I'm looking at:
And my take on it so far:
The bloodied girl of average intelligence keeps trying to stand up, struggling, without considering the piano wire around her throat, so it gradually bites into her green tinted skin splitting open the flesh of her neck.
Time for a challenge! These questions are taken from a real N1 exam. I have the answers confirmed by two Japanese natives, I'll post them after.
>okay, I'm obviously looking for something that means "lots of" because the empty lot winds up looking like a mountain of garbage, this won't be too hard
>read the answers
>I only know what one of them even means
Fuck Japanese. Fuck this stupid fucking language.
Here is a reading example from the JLPT N1 test:
And here are the questions. I do not have the answers for this part.
Are there any high (really high, writer level high) English decks? I'm too lazy to mine one myself and usually can't keep up with adding new cards.
I know this is somewhat unrelated, but this seems like the only place on chan with people that use anki.
This is a long text from a real N2 test.
Fuck yes, I'm a 小学生 bitches. That's right 5,200 mother fucking words. I bet none of you fags can top that.
That's like 1k overestimated.
This isn't true, you actually have to come across the word more than once in order for your brain to remember it.
That said, he'd probably be better off reading a fucking book and using a dictionary than grinding Anki like an ESL
I'm 500 words into the core 6k deck and only just realized the importance of being able to write the characters
Is there an easy way to learn the stroke orders for what I already know, or should I just restart the deck?
After realizing how hard the JLPT N1 is, especially compared to the N2, I've gotta say, I really don't see the point in doing any easier one... doing N5-N2 is basically just saying you've got the Japanese skill of a three year old. I don't even think they're good as a way to measure one's progress, because it's so unbalanced: N5-N2 are just saying "you're still far too bad for N1". I dunno, I just don't get it. I feel like people are getting suckered into doing them. In a just world, JLPTN5-2 would be removed and there'd be just one JLPT test on the same level as the current N1.
Test one using rikai for kanji readings
Test two using rikai to make sure I did actually know what the word was
What I learnt from this is
It's just that Japanese has more words in use than English. English uses multiple words a lot when Japanese just has a single word for it. For example a common word 木漏れ日 might seem very specific from an English perspective even though it's actually quite a common sight.
well "three year old" is a little extreme, but yeah, anything under n2 is fairly useless, and if you're good enough for n2 you should probably just study and go for n1 instead.
I get that you can look at kanji and figure out its stroke order from that alone. But I found that even though I knew the words for some vocab, if I was asked to write it out on a piece of paper I would be completely lost. I'm not sure if other people have this same problem.
Nah bro. That's dumb as hell.
I did that for awhile but eventually had enough and re-enabled suspending leeches. Know what happened? I started getting way less reviews, my retention rate went way up, and I started finishing way faster. If you fuck up a word in anki then anki is not the best way to learn the word. There's a saying - if all you have is a hammer, you'll treat everything like a nail. Well anon, leeches aren't always nails to hit, some require special attention. Suspending leeches was a huge load off my back and I'm glad I did it. Good riddance.
>try to read a manga I bought in Japan
>Kanji are so small
>my lighting sucks
Should have just downloaded the raw...
tfw I could answer this with relative confidence, without having to look anything up. 資格 was the only word I didn't know off-hand (well 肝心 too but it has a footnote that I understood anyway).
M-maybe... maybe I can actually learn Japanese?
>Kanji are so small
Buy a real book and they're plenty big.
If you fail a card enough times (not in a row, but on separate days) it is called a leech. Default is 12 times, I moved it to 20 for myself. If you actually learn a word it is very unlikely you'll fail in 12 times, so leeches tend to be uncommon and especially hard words. That anon was suggesting you keep those in your deck and just keep trying to memorize them in anki, other anon suggests removing (suspending) leeches and memorizing them outside of anki.
If you're interested in maximizing the rate which you're learning new words at, then you should lower the leech threshold, since those are the words that take up alot of your time and effort all for little return.
My deck is centered around new/difficult kanji so I went in anticipating to fail a lot for each one (indeed, my retention was god awful in the beginning). So the 20 actually helped me, I think. I also changed my interval modifier to 80% or so, making every interval 20% shorter (10 days -> 8 days) for boosted exposure.
Remember that you are going to have learn these words eventually, and suspending leeches and never learning them is definitely not the way to go. I think the optimal strategy is to go over them separately if necessary, but keep them in anki so you do end up learning them.
>N3 is only useful if you want to be like a chef at a place that serves japanese customers regularly or something
Not that anon, but I'll have to remember that. Still just trying to get down Hirigana, but I'm assuming what you're talking about are the characters for food and drink.
I would say suspending leeches and ignoring them is superior to NOT suspending leeches and just letting them flow through anki as per normal, in my personal experience that didn't help at all, I mean they're leeches for a reason. I think there are two optimal courses of action -
1) Special study every leech every day and be very very attentive
2) Suspend them, and do alternative memorization strategies such as writing.
The chef wouldn't interact with the customers, he probably was just referring to be able to say "ありがとう", "さようなら", "私のホバークラフトは鰻でいっぱいです", etc
That's just how this thread works. 100 newbies enter, 90 quit and never return, 10 advance to the point where they don't need this thread anymore... And then another 100 newbies enter. That's why it's just an endless chain of beginner questions.
And some losers remain just to post hardly relevant screenshots. It's a sad state of affairs to be quite honest.
The thing about leeches is that they only appear when you've failed to learn them through anki. Therefore, suspending them doesn't really mean a whole lot except saved time. You can unsuspend them whenever you like, too. It's important to remember that we're not talking about 1 or 2 leeches, but potentially hundreds, as they build up over time, and in groups like that simply leaving them all unsuspended is aa huge time sink.
>mfw an amerifat pronounced Japanese w as English w near me
People who have to actually organize all that stuff so you can write that test for four hours.
I work as an invigilator for a certain English test, and I can tell you that there's a crazy amount of stuff going on behind the scenes which the people who take the test will never see or hear about.
How do you translate 醜? I looked at a machine translation LN Project that "translated" it as:
>warriors of the beasts of ugliness, with the united power of eighty, beast attack
I don't think 醜 literally comes out as ugliness in this sentence - since it does not make sense in or out of context.
This thread is mostly newfags asking dumb questions and people whose pattern just consists of looking up words and grammar on the DOJG, so they don't have anything to discuss and just shitpost
Or newfags who don't study and just shitpost, but it has the same effect
Such as seeing how many people will come to the test, reserving rooms accordingly, getting the amount of staff required accordingly, etc.
I don't know what else they do, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have to jump through multiple hoops of regulations just when a candidate registers to make sure that they didn't take the test somewhere else already, or that if they did, they know about that. There is a shitton of bureaucracy and regulations involved behind these language tests which are required to ensure their quality.
I get my schedule for when I've got work about three months before the first month of that schedule actually comes along.
Other than, what this guy is saying >>134139679
I'm not sure how much prior people have to register for our tests since they are organized locally and we have them twice a week.
Friendly reminder that you should be studying/reading instead of being here.
Huh, もののふの is 枕詞.
Is there a decent online source of classical Japanese dealing with 枕詞.
I did find this but I can't quite grasp it. I know it is basically poetic terms with particular meanings but I don't think that is all.
NOOOOO YOU'RE FORGETTING JAPANESE IS ENGLISH BUT BACKWARDS
SO ((LET'S) START) FROM MIO-CHAN, GO AHEAD (MIO-CHAN!)
YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS SINCE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
I'm squarely in intermediate hell. I stopped coming to DJT and had totally lost my motivation to study.
I've started reading the thread again this week and today I actually did some reading. Somehow, seeing that I'm not alone in the struggle makes me feel like there's a point. It's cheap but I'll take it.
We're all on our way bro
The most dangerous part of intermediate hell for me is that it's really tempting to just be satisfied with nukige and never get gud enough to casually read Muramasa or newspapers or sci-fi books
The problem with plotge, for me, is that often the difficult makes them just boring. The slow pace, misunderstanding the lines due to (ultimate) inexperience... Its hard to maintain interest. Esp. since most worthwhile plotge (and i mean real plotges, not games like Satsukoi that while are good are 95% moe), esp since most worthwhile plotge have tons and tons of infodumps that are boring even at a good pace.
Meanwhile nukige offers constant sex and moege offer constant, easy, good times. It's hard to go in deep
I'm actually being serious with these reccomendations
Compelling, anon. if something isn't compelling I simply will not maintain enough interest to read it. It's just a fact.
Can は act as a contrastive marker if there is no direct object of contrast in the sentence and no verb, but there is (most likely) a contrast present form the context and there is an adverb that's typically used with negative verbs (in my case 全然)?
Nukige interest is 10 because your fetish will arouse your attention to max every time
Moege interest is 7 because everyone here is desperate for love
Writing quality is assumed to be 5 due to unpredictable variance, for every 10/10 writing there's a 1/10 writing.
Do that RTK edit on this instead
Or make a better looking loop on yours
to be honest... he looks pretty cool
I mean usually it's like a fat dude wearing trenchcoat so it's illfiting, or the fedora is obviously cheap, or the sword looks dumb, but I mean, this dude has all the elements together and they work pretty well.
Can someone help me out? I'm trying to interpret
(the two are brother and sister, basically vampires)
Literally I think it's "my blood will become your blood and your bones," where bone is possibly being used more figuratively to mean support or help.
He's like that one 11 year old trying to act tough.
>get to advanced section of tae kim
>everything gets like 10 times more complicated
>wikipedia definitions out the arse (in japanese of course)
>concepts I wouldn't even understand in english