Where can i watch subbed super?
The website i normally visit recently put up episodes of super but it only goes to 7.
Who wants to see every page where Gohan gets the shit knocked out of him?
Dragon Ball sure has a lot of violence against children.
Recoome sure was horrifying despite essentially being a comic relief villain.
Gohan didn't get hurt much during the Android Saga. He didn't do much at all, actually.
Man, he looks so fucking disappointed. Like not even that Gohan got beaten, but "what happened to you Gohan? What happened to that little kid who endured all my training and suffering? Was it all for nothing?" kinda look.
There really wasn't much pain in the Buutenks fight. Gohan just dodged around for 20 minutes, then finally got beat up off panel.
Gohan needs the daily dose.
Who the fuck said this was okay?
>Bringing Ginyu back
>No more FotNS abridged
Don't remind me.
DBZ is shit. Sorry but it is true. Only the original Dragon Ball episodes are fun to watch.
TFS killed this and we'll never get it back
Mah nigga. Back when it was a light hearted comedy with actual martial arts and a supporting cast that mattered, not a po faced beam fest.
I'm more surprised that they are letting goten and trunks in the fight, probably don't want to air a mom crying over her kid dying.
Ginyu frog coming back too.
nice to see another alien get stronger than a super saiyan, just by training. Makes being a saiyan not so great.
Not that anon but yes much agreed.
Back then every one was faster than the eye could see and Kamehameha was invisible, only visible for the readers. Then z made them visible because how else would freeza see a Kamehameha coming.
IT'S THE LEAN
>you will never watch his dragondubs back in 2008 again
Well if you look at saiyans can be if they trained, they just went from battle to battle relying on zenkai boosts, this episode proves that training goes along way compared to just going from battle to battle.
Yeah in the earlier days this is explained in those interviews posted in kashinbuu what ever that site is called, bit they say the ki attacks were invisible but only for the readers to see.
It really makes no difference to me, goku was not on guard, he doesn't have impurvious skin, remember how technology created over powered humans called andriods? There is no way you can't say science can't go any farther.
Even now I stil find that pretty retarded. Even if freezer was badly hurt, you simply don't lower your guard to the point you have like 200 powerlevels and thus are prone to get laser'd, specially not knowing how freezer plays dirty when he's losing
You're not saying something we didn't already know
The theme of that movie was over confidence. Goku lowering his guard, vegeta giving time for freiza to talk even though he had him dead right there, freiza going straight in after getting his new powers but not realizing it was too much for him.
I wonder who the 5th fighter will be.
My bet is on Launch.
She got picked up by Whis at the start of DBZ.
As a reader of the manga and knowing how Ki works, yes it drops your strength considerably. Not having Ki up weakens you regardless of how strong you are. Even being in SSGSS doesn't help much if Ki is down.
You can do anything with a little makeup.
>Recoome sure was horrifying despite essentially being a comic relief villain.
They're not. His Squad can act like Goofballs, but they're really serious business. Gohan and Krillin were about to die there.
My blood brothers. It will never come. ;_;
>make Gohan super badass in Cell fight
>we could end DBZ where son was stronger than father
>make Buu saga
>Gohan once again has more power than his dad
>new movies and DBS
>Gohan is shit on par with Krillin
JUST KILL THIS FRANCHISE ALREADY
Even if that's what was said, it's never really been the case, even in Dragonball. I specifically remember people at the World Tournament in the audience losing their shit when Yamcha started pulling out the Sokidan.
He doesn't like fighting and its been this way forever. He only fights when he has to.
Its funny though because he seems to like fighting whenever he has the upper-hand and is dominating them (Cell/Super Buu)
I think he might be a sadist, although Hero of Justice is what he usually is going for (Saiyaman).
What's the best torrent for Z?
I remember about a year ago somebody was in progress making releases of the dragon boxes that didn't have grain out the ass, but I lost the link for it so I don't remember what it was.
pretty sure I already have that and didn't like it for a variety of reasons, and me posting about that on /a/ a year ago was what led to somebody telling me about the release i'm talking about in >>134127521
GOHANFAGS GET KUCKED!
Literally have been calling this shit for days now. Krillin is Toriyama's favorite, Gohan is an irrelevant bitch boi, everyone needs to move the fuck on.
The episode has Gohan's name in the title and Krillin STILL gets more character development then this poor excuse of a character autists self inserted themselves as.
Told all you fuccbois, Krillin is Toriyama's #1. Gohan was never supposed to be the "new Goku". Goku is always supposed to be the main character.
Now.... if people insist on shitting up the board everytime Gohan gets smacked around like the bitch he is, I will constantly remind them that Krillin is the only non Sayian character that has gotten development
Went from being bitched at for letting his wife fight, to taking a punch from Goku to wake him the fuck up, to becoming a cop and trolling Bulma, to being the one to lead the charge to the fight.
Also, Krillin was the focal point for all the characters flying to Frieza. This isn't an opinion, this is an empirical fact. Krillin is more of a main character than Gohan..
Can we get a Gohan owned counter?
Maybe it's Uub?
The 200 reply threads everytime Gohan gets kukd says that's a lie.
And nothing of value was lost.
Seems to me they are fucking geniuses then. Stop hating on successful people for being successful. That's commie talk.
One can only hope.
Regardless, if the fanbase won't let him that just proves that Krillin is more likable and relatable then fuccboi Gohan. But Toriyama has a soft spot for Krillin, it's the main reason he devoted so much time to him and Android 18 during the Cell arc.
you will never be princess carried by a beautiful woman.
They should remove themselves from the surplus population. The time of the Krillinfag is nigh!
They should kill you already. This franchise is soaring because they aren't catering to self inserting weeaboo faggots like yourself. Cry moar because the character you pretend to be like is irrelevant.
>Gohan is shit on par with Krillin
Krillin is actually the main fucking focus outside of Vegeta and Goku. Who was leading the fight against Frieza? Not Gohan shitbird.
Everyone formed up ON Krillin. The episode had Gohan's name in it and Krillin STILL got more attention devoted to him. Just accept the fact that Gohan's time is done. Finished. You can stop watching this show because you will never get the stick out of your ass.
fuck you Gohan, if you just kept up with your training you'd be curb stomping all these fools messing with earth
what a waste of talent
Flying is a crane school hability. Crane school and Turtle school are enemies so I can understand Roshi's pride of not learning one of his rival skills.
btw I know it sounds retarded.
>Krillin suddenly forgetting how to powerlevels and being scared of minions even Master Roshi can stomp
>random Zarbon-tier soldier getting strong enough to overpower Piccolo and Gohan in just 4 months
What the flying fuck is going on?
Power levels mean shit. Piccolo and Gohan aren't tough. Super Sayians getting nerfed. Move the fuck on and enjoy the ride.
Fights will be fights. Which makes the show more interesting and fun. Stop this autistic "power level" bullshit.
She is best girl because she is best girl.
Or they could write their shit properly in a way that would not be out of touch with previously established facts.
Why won't they have Yamcha fight on par with Whis or Gohan struggle against Satan, after all fights will be fights and powerlevels are just autistic bullshit.
You from all people saying that. I wonder how many times you samefag.
>The 18 pic.
>The Krillin and 18 pics.
>Threads about Gohan get butthurt.
Samefags should get a life or suicide.
If Gotenks lost again Ginyu Tagoma they would be placing him in the same spot of Super Buu. Now Gohan defeated Shisami, Tagoma's replacement, in the movie. Maybe they are going to go this route with Tagoma.
And why did they have to make Tagoma an edgelord? Holy shit.
>Dutch, french and some ching chongs have already subs
>Still not English or Spanish subs, only 2 languages I understand
Fuck I hate this world.
>Sounds like english
>Lot of downloads
>επεισόδιο του Dragon Ball Super είναι έτοιμο! Ο Freeza φτάνει στη Γη!
Fuck my life.
>Implying these threads aren't just the same 5 samefags.
Not really an edgelord. He's just a bad guy. Vegeta is an emo edgelord and that's why all you autistic cocksmokers love him so fucking much.
I can't wait for it. I love all the bitching when people just can't enjoy the fucking ride. Even Toriyama said power levels are bullshit.
I know Toriyama cares more about Krillin then Gohan that's for fucking sure.
I find plenty to like about Dragon Ball Super. I don't know what everyone was fucking expecting. Seriously, DB attracts the most autistic of assberger retards to argue about stupid shit like power levels and who is stronger then who or banal shit like that.
>I don't know why people say piccolo is a better father than goku
Because of what Piccolo said about Gohan not being a fighting nut like his dad is. That's really it. Even then Goku was right that Gohan had the power to beat cell, he was wrong about how to get gohan to trigger it.
I think it's because of how closely people associate being a mentor with also being a father figure, even if those things are not exactly the same.
Either way though, it is pretty clear that by that time Piccolo was concerned about Gohan's well-being.
Haven't followed super since the third episode, got bored with it and didn't care to follow it
has it gotten gud yet?
It's still just adapting the movies into series form fo some stupid reason, despite the fact that everyone and their fucking dog in Japan has seen Battle of Gods by now, and Resurrection F broke numerous records.
Even Toriyama accepted Piccolo is Gohan's surrogate father. He spend time with Gohan's family, babysit his kid, have dinner with them.
Piccolo is Gohan's true father.
Do they atleast add anything to the movie plots or is it just an unnecessary adaptation of movies that came out in the last 2 years but with awful animation?
Other than more Videl, what makes this series worth watching?
We got an edgelord.
>tortured by Frieza.
>Sudden Power up.
>Kill Shisami because "my pain is greatest than yours"
I really have no idea what you are talking about.
If he is able to hold against SSJ Gotenks that would put Tagoma!Ginyu in Super Buu level, if SSJ Gohan can hold against him that would put Gohan above SSJ Gotenks.
And at that point anyone can be at Super Buu's level.
Uub confirmed for pleb.
The Beerus arc didn't really add anything important, in fact it -cut- some stuff. The only real addition is the whole "SSJ God and Beerus fighting against each other can destroy the universe" parts.
RoF seems to be changing quite a bit though. The pre-battle part was basically the movie with a few extra Tagoma scenes, but the actual battle stuff is completely different from the movie so far, just using the same characters (+ Ginyu, Goten and Trunks).
Uub is a good idea
Some kid born with the raw power of Majin Buu who can be trained since childhood by a guy who's trained with the best masters on earth and in the universe? That's nothing but pure potential
See the thing is, for however strong Goku gets, he's still only a mortal man
Passing on your techniques and philosophy to the younger generation is true power
Why doesn't Goku train Goten and Pan though? Because he's a faggot.
I am tired of new characters and Toriyama making obsolete the older ones.
Fuck Uub and you.
Yeah but how does one get stronger training with a person significantly weaker than him?
I mean Frieza's god form is strong enough to fight evenly with Super Cyan for a few minutes.
Really, I don't know who you are talking about but it ain't me.
>The fuck do you expect?
Old Toriyama and Old DB/Z.
Mommy trained him went SSJ as a result, when bug bro asked to train with him the kid is excited. Actually made progress.
Kid admired his daddy, daddy wants to train alone, never bothered to train with kid.
Good-bye, I'm going to some distant planet to train with a blue dude and his cat.
>Old Toriyma and Old DB/Z
>Goku and Bulma on their adventures
>Then Yamcha and Puar show up
>Then Chi-Chi and Ox King
>Then Launch (who?)
>Then Tien and Chiaotzu
>Then Popo and Kami
>Then chichi grows up and marries Goku
>Then Gohan is born
>Then Vegeta shows up but is spared and becomes an ally
>Then Future Trunks shows up
My point is, new characters always have shown up and always will as long as a shonen keeps going. You're retarded if you think Super adding more and more characters to the team is something special.
You never actually read the manga did you? Know what Yamcha did after Pilaf? NOTHING
What did Tien do after the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament? Get his ass handed to him by Drum who Goku beat without breaking a sweet.
Krillin was useful in early Namek sega and that;s it, ever. Well that and he died twice to raise stakes I guess.
It's been the "Only Goku is useful manga" from the very beginning.
Sorry, but even in the Buu saga everyone got a way to contribute. Even Videl, Chi Chi, 18, Roshi, Yamcha and Bulma.
In DB/Z until the Buu saga all the only additions to the team was Vegeta, Goten and Trunks. Still the old ones got a time to themselves.
And that's my problem with Super, everyone got nefted. Krillin suddenly is too afraid to fight when he faced Cell/Buu.
the writing in this is so shit,
Buu is conveniently asleep;
Picollo, who's stronger than Freeza in Namek can't just take out 90% of the army by himself.
and Gohan, even though he doesn't train anymore he still is stronger than Buu, and should be invincible to Freeza's army, yet gets almost killed by a dude who's merely "stronger than ginyuu"
>see Goku in the epilogue he's training Goten
When he's 17 and when is said epilogue he gave two shits about Goku leaving with a random kid. Hell, Goku didn't bother to said good-bye to him (or Pan).
Also Goten wasn't happy to fight with Buu, implying he was weaker than him, implying Goku doesn't train with him.
Why don't you try actually reading the manga instead of just making stuff up that you think sounds true?
If Goku wanted to train Goten, first of all he'd take him to King Kai's planet and they'd do basic training there, secondly he'd teach him all the old techniques, like kamehameha (goten NEVER used this in the manga) solar flare, destructo disc, kaioken, etc.
>(goten NEVER used this in the manga)
Goku and Krillin's training with Master Roshi wasn't good old fashioned
Nor was Goku's training with Korin
Or Goku's training with Popo and Kami.
All of them had some exaggerated trait to them, whether that be "wear these 50 kilo training clothes" or "train at a high atmosphere with little oxygen" or whatever.
Sorry, but no. When Goten has teachers that actually want to teach him things he improves.
>Went SSJ with Chi Chi.
>Learned the basics of ki blasts with Gohan.
>Got serious and learned the fusion dance with Piccolo and Krillin.
What has Goku teach him in Super? Nothing, because he doesn't care to train his kids. In the U6 arc Vegeta has more faith in Gohan than Goku.
Goku did make an honest effort to train Gohan, I remember him going off in the woods to train with Gohan and Piccolo for three years during the Android saga.
I guess Gohan squandered so much potential he didn't care to waste his time on Goten.
>Have you not read the manga? The very first time we see Goku in the epilogue he's training Goten.
Read the dialogue though. It seems clear that it's just for the tournament and Goten usually doesn't train anymore by that point.
Super seems to show Goku ignoring Goten's training for years, which might be what led to that direction, since his father didn't seem to bother pushing him towards martial arts at all.
>Super seems to show Goku ignoring Goten's training for years
What is even the timeline for Super? It doesn't seem to be THAT long after Majin Buu, and Pan is already born despite her only being four years old during Z's epilogue. Shouldn't Bra be born, too?
Did Toriyama just forget again?
>Buu is conveniently asleep;
Well, it might be tied to Buu's retconned origin, from around BoGs, where according to it originally Kid Buu went in cycles of activity and hibernation, and Bibidi just found him and used a spell to awaken and control him.
>yet gets almost killed by a dude who's merely "stronger than ginyuu"
The way he regards Ginyu as "Oh, there were those guys..." heavily implies that he doesn't take that comparison seriously. According to the preview, Tagoma is as strong as Gohan right now. He easily rips apart Piccolo's arm, and beats both Gohan and Piccolo together.
>What is even the timeline for Super?
They were very vague with the BoGs part, but there were stated to be several month long timeskips between the transition episodes post-Beerus and pre-Freeza..
>Shouldn't Bra be born, too?
She could still be born in the year after Pan's birth and everything would match up with the epilogue. In the manga, she seems smaller than Oolong based on the shot with both sitting on the tournament chair beside the arena.
Matches up with the anime too.
>Al beam attacks are a Kamehameha
How pleb could you possibly get? I wouldn't even call all Kamehameha identical.
>Goku did make an honest effort to train Gohan
No, Piccolo was the one who bothered to train cry-baby Gohan. It was Piccolo who got Gohan interested in training. Goku never bothered to train cry baby Gohan. He got Gohan when he was used to the idea of training. And he exceeded his expectations. In the Cell saga Goku sacrificed his life to kept Earth at peace told Gohan that way he would be able to study. Gohan valued Goku's words and did as he was told. Then in the Buu saga it was Elder Kai and Shin who trained Gohan, after that Goku never bothered to mention train with his kids. He just wanted to train with blue dude and purple cat.
Goku only cares for his training.
How fucking lazy can this adaptation get?
DBZ world map is totally different from ours.
Chi-chi didn't want Goku to train "Cry-baby Gohan".
Probably because at the time he was fucking 4. The fact that he could form coherent sentences and tie his shoes was pretty impressive.
Four years happens between the Buu Saga and the Battle of Gods. The anime is just a bit vague when there's a timeskip.
Bra is a year younger than Pan, so she'll be conceived after the current arc (victory sex for Vegeta and Bulma, apparently).
He took Gohan to some trips, he never bothered to train him in secret. It was his ex enemy who trained and got the kid interested in martial arts. And it was Chi Chi who got Goten interested in martial arts. Vegeta suggested that Gohan should join them because his potential, Gohan is a moralfag if the Earth is in danger he fights. Goku dismissed Vegeta.
Goku is only good at this own training, after the Cell saga he's a shitty teacher and after Super he doesn't care to be a teacher.
Wrong, they just watch him and transform in their own. Goku did jack shit. Piccolo and Krillin were the ones with the job to train them.
Piccolo only trained Gohan out of necessity. They literally needed more strong people because aliens were gonna show up and kill everyone. And that's piccolo's job.
Also Goten was much older than Gohan and so Chi-chi probably felt better about training him. Also second son syndrome.
And? It was other people who trained Goku's kids, and because of them Goku's kids got stronger and interested in martial arts. Goku got chances to train Gohan in secret, but he never did it even though he bothered to complain about how that was a waste. He never bothered to train Goten. Goku's a cynical.
To be fair he trained Gohan in the time chamber during the Cell saga. Granted at first it was more to have a sparring partner for his own training, and changed his plan when he realised Gohan was reaching SSJ2, but still.
How did Trunks magically setup a barrier around Broly that prevented him from powering up his attack and caused him to lose to the Family Kamehameha?
Let that sink in for a moment. If it wasn't for Trunks, Broly would have powered through a triple Kamehameha fired by Goku, Gohan and Goten. Compared to that, knowing what a Kamehameha looks like is nothing.
Piccolo was treated as funny babysitter
Tien did nothing in the manga, okay he still survived the kill all human attacks, but gets eaten by Buu right after
Krillin's "role" in the Buu saga was to be in the general vicinity of things happening.
>was more to have a sparring partner for his own training
And thanks to proved my point. Goku never bothers to train anyone unless he needs a sparring partner/goes it is their responsibility, nor mine/accepts he can't win.
Piccolo should become Goten/Trunks/Gohan/Pan's master.
Legit, he has the look of a disappointed father
Like fuck gohan, you were my student, I put all my effort into training you instead of killing you, and you were even confirmed strongest fighter in the universe. Now look at your pussy ass getting shot and knocked the fuck out.
Piccolo mentored them, unlike Goku going "not my responsibility, have fun with them, Piccolo".
Tien saved Gohan, Satan and Dende in the manga.
Krillin got a place in early Buu saga and the early fight with Dabura. Fought in the tournament, and was never a fool like in Super.
>your favorite villain lost to one of the biggest fucking jobbers in fiction rivaling yamcha
I bet that the devil could instant kill adult goku with his special move. Dude got quite selfish and battlehungry as he got older, thus accumulating enough sin to have the shit exploded out of him.
>Goku confirmed for worth father
Too funny, anon. You know Goku is too busy to give a shit about Gohan being hurt. But worry not, Goku is going to shit on his (Piccolo's) son in the Universe 6 arc.
If Cell comes back I would puke, if that's the only way for the plot to not suck Goku's dick and puke on everyone else I would get dick.
To this point I still think one of the reasons Toriyama revived Frieza is to give Goku the feat of truly killing him.
>To this point I still think one of the reasons Toriyama revived Frieza is to give Goku the feat of truly killing him.
The only reason he decided to bring Freeza back was because he heard that Maximum the Hormone song. That's it.
They added a lot of combat between Goku and Beerus, more speech, effects for the universe of 2 gods fighting and more lore than the movie.
They are making a total diferent thing with the same base. Yeah Frieza is revived and he comes with an army but this time Gotenks will come, Ginyu will appear on the next episode, Tagoma is not kill and now he's stronger than SSJ Gohan. Goku and Vegeta are not getting there in time because Whiss send them to another dimension to keep with the training.
I want to see Freezer's reaction when he sees kid Trunks.
>who want Tori to go against Gohan's character
Eh, to be honest Toriyama is shitting a lot in his character.
>Depowered him in two years more than he did after the Cell saga.
>Gohan doubts he can go SSJ.
>Goku's comment about him doesn't find his gi in RoF. And his comment about Gohan's only interest being study, when he's a nerd boy who used a disguise a la power ranger to fight moobs, and when he fights to protect Earth.
All the complains about BoG are retarded closet Gohanfags.
Isn't Galik Gun his version of the Kame Hame Ha?
>The only reason he decided to bring Freeza back was because he heard that Maximum the Hormone song. That's it.
And they used it on the worst possible moment.
WHY NOT WHEN HE TRANSFORMED? Or when he was pownding Goku?
Now please make another thread and complain about that thread with 200 posts to how how of a newfag you are. Unless you want to use the pics you used to use when you shitpost with Vegeta and Goku's fight.
I think levels are pointless at this point. Just know that all their power levels dropped heaps since it's been 'peace time'. The only ones with any kind of gains are Goku and Vegeta.
>this pleb thinks that the DBZ abridged adaption isn't the best thing to happen to the series since Dragon Ball
Look at him and laugh
>Is tagoma a genius mutant like freezer?
Most strong people in Freeza's army as strong mutants with natural power. Remember, the first thing the Ginyu force thought about Goku's strength was that he was a mutant like them.
And? Moonie don't care about him. They were too busy fangirling over pic related.
Vegetto/Ultimate Gohan/Piccolo/Gotenks' fan were too busy fangirling to notice Uub.
its not gonna get any better for my boy is it?
Because that's their idea of conflict. Make Krillin froze in battle when they could just gave him some dialogues about not being as strong as Tien or Goku. Or make everyone vs Frieza as a mere diversion.
>Yeah but how does one get stronger training with a person significantly weaker than him?
I dunno but Goku managed to get stronger than Vegeta after expending 1 year with Gohan in the time chamber.
If he could teleport anywhere first he should detect a Ki to teleport to and I don't thing you can sense Ki's from hell.
That said, I don't thing the dead can teleport to the living universe withouth Baba's permission and, if they do it would be for just a second (as when Goku punched Boujak)
>That said, I don't think the dead can teleport to the living universe
Yeah I figured that, but isn't the otherworld just as big as our universe? You're telling me he can't just get stronger and find a way to bust out of hell? If anyone could do it I would assume he could.
I only teleported back from the afterlife because he wasn't dead.
Also, King Yemma's power level is never established. I think it's safe to assume he has dominion over parts of the afterlife like Hell.
>Tagoma Somehow becomes stronger than cell
>Can't get zenkai boost cause he's not a saiyan
>People say he trained with frieza and became stronger from near death experiences
>He isn't a fucking SAIYAN so no boost
Fuck it. Why doesn't Tien just train hardcore with goku and become super saiyan 3 strong.
Being weaker than Frieza is one thing, but now he's weaker than one of his fucking henchmen?
Most of you people are fucking stupid it's not even funny and you call yourself a fan of the show fuck I'm off of /a/ you people are pathetic
He easily rips off Piccolo's arm while facing him next week. Although I think that only puts him at around Perfect/Super Perfect Cell level, not necessarily above it. He's certainly stronger than a Cell Jr though.
Which is stupid too
Picollo shouldn't give a fuck
And Freeza and his guys already killed Krillin in the past and are about to blow up earth
Super is just not serious enough
There's no threat whatsoever
There isn't even blood or actuall wounds
I don't want it to be a gore fest, but now everything just feels like a sparing fight
I've got a fever and there's only one cure.
>>Can't get zenkai boost cause he's not a saiyan
The body becoming stronger after recovering from wounds isn't a Saiyan-exclusive ability. It's how exercise works. In reality, you can't really strain too much because it can damage the body beyond its ability to recover, but Tagoma had a regeneration chamber to recover himself every time. He doesn't need some special ability to get stronger out of that.
I think he's referring to the fact that tagoma was only stated to be around zarbon or dodoria's level, but then he's able to take on piccolo and gohan without a problem and kick ass.
Keep in mind piccolo was around as strong as an ascended saiyan but weaker than ssj2 in cell saga(After being in the Hyberbolic time chamber).
However, he doesn't stop training onto buu saga. A lot of people assume he's less than or equal to cell's strength at this point.
DBS is just good at SoL (where Goku isn't the main star) but bad at the movie recap (where Goku had to be the one kicking the villain's ass). Toei/Toriyama some day have to stop being afraid of making Goku less cool if the rest of the characters actual fight the villain.
Don't ever try to bring reality into a cartoon dude.
Obviously you grow bigger, faster, and stronger each time you exercise. However, there's obviously limits. No regular human can keep training and eventually be strong enough to lift a fucking tank.
But as far as this is concerned, zenkai boosts are in FACT saiyan exclusive unless you count cell since he has saiyan cells. Otherwise, the humans should not have had a hard time keeping up with saiyans since they too suffered life threatening injuries they recovered from. Stop trying to defend an obvious plot hole. I can somewhat understand frieza since he was born unbelievably strong, but not mr purple rain aka tagoma.
>DBS is just good at SoL (where Goku isn't the main star)
That's funny, because I I found the SOL moments with Goku the most entertaining. Be it him slacking off from work, dodging Chichi's nagging or bugging the shit out of Bulma to go train with Whis.
Fuck, why is Goku such a shit father? He dies and leaves his son with Le green antenna man until he gets revived. And then he goes off to some shit planet to fight a manlet trap, making his son go after him and watch his friend die, and then end up making them believe he was dead for a long ass time when Namek blows up. And to top it all off, he doesn't even show up for his second son's birth.
Piccolo was a better father than Goku ever was desu.
>That's funny, because I I found the SOL moments with Goku the most entertaining. Be it him slacking off from work, dodging Chichi's nagging or bugging the shit out of Bulma to go train with Whis.
That kinda goes without saying, because Toei, for all it's Bulma/Vegeta pandering they wastes nearly entire episodes on faggot shit like Vegeta brooding over what Goku was doing, like a fucking fag. While Gohan, Piccolo, Goten and Trunks all get shitty throwaway cuts that don't matter. At least Goku is reacting with the other characters. Kuririn, Roshi, Tenshinhan and Gohan barely got that; with the few scenes added to the films being taken by fucking Bulma in Super.
Piccolo should just train the kids, Piccolo training Gohan and Goten when?
How long until Cell somehow gets revived for another movie?
>A Cell Jr. was still alive and hiding
>Saw what happened with Frieza
>Does the same to revive Cell
>A Cell Jr. was still alive and hiding
>Grows old enough to be equal to Cell now
How to train without anyone noticing though, dunno.
>That kinda goes without saying, because Toei, for all it's Bulma/Vegeta pandering they wastes nearly entire episodes on faggot shit like Vegeta brooding over what Goku was doing, like a fucking fag.
that entire episode with the family vacation was shit because vegeta couldn't get his mind off goku. the episode with whis and bulma was almost ruined for the same reason, thanksbto whis being based as fuck.
You know for all this Gohan jobbing we do have that whole alternate universes thing so Toriyama could just asspull and bring a relevant Gohan out for a few episodes.
And then have him job and get killed off anyways.
>While Gohan, Piccolo, Goten and Trunks all get shitty throwaway cuts that don't matter
>What a father you've got, leaving his son to die alone
Nappa doesn't realize that this isn't even the last time he'd do it, either.
Exactly what I stated. Compare that throwaway scene, that's literally there to lead into Chichi showing up to boss everyone, Satan, Bulma and Goku included to any pointlessly extended scene with Bulma or Vegeta. That Bulma had an episode with her and Whis eating was bad enough, Bulma gets shoehorned even in the little scene where Kuririn is on duty (when realistically they could have given #17, Lunch, Yajirobe or and of the DB characters we haven't seen in years a cameo).