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Jack is fucking crazy
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sanji is the best character
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No other thread?
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>>134040250
No, no otter thread, just OP talk allowed
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Yawn, Wake me up when Luffy Gear 4th's the Shit outta him. heck he'll probably only need Gear 3.
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So Nami blew the gas away and Chopper nursed the minks to health?
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King mink got btfo by Jack. Mink army got btfo by poison gas.
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>Jack straight up nuke the fuck out of the minks
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>>Oda introduces intimidating as fuck character
>>probably can tank hits like nobody the strawhats have ever faced before
>>instantly /a/ thinks he's a jobber
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Ace a cute
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>>134040194
Anyone think that Jack might have a speech impediment or something? I think he has a thing against talking.
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>>134040445
When a charcter seems so powerful nearly invincible, then one of the SH would come out as their natural enemy, and will have a natural advantage or the high ground in the fight.

Perona - Usopp
Enel - Luffy

So maybe Jack will be scared AF of Chopper because he thinks he is a giant mouse or some shit like that.
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>>134040445
They say that because Wanda said they had the upper hand, which makes sense because they're used to fighting in the forest. But they still lost and got tortured.

I noticed that when the minks attacked the Pleasures, they were still smiling even after they were hit
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>>134040550
The few lines he has in this chapter doesn't indicate any different pattern in his speech.
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>>134040562
I like it

Itll be more interesting than luffy just smashing him with gear 4.

I honestly think zoro will fight him if anyone is going to fight him at all on zou.
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Reminder that doffy and doffyfags got epic BTFO
>mfw they were btfo so hard they don't dare speak up anymore

sorta like the sabo's dead the data book said so guys
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>>134040550
I don't think so, he just doesn't bullshit around. Kind of like Crocodile, but with more power.
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jack confirmed for shit
can't even destroy a single country
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3 Calamities kinda sounds like the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, especially with this drought stuff.

I wonder if X Drake is one of them and who the other one is.

Maybe we'll get another cool Ancient Zoan.
Sabretooth tiger anyone?
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Ahahhahah, Zoro's just like "I knew this shit would happen from day fucking one".

Man, I love this guy.
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>>134040598
Even if Wanda was right she was speaking in collective terms. Even so, why would you take what a character says as 100% fact?
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>>134040648
did Doffy touch you in a bad place?
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>>134040358
You're retarded
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>>134040668
>>134040618
Oda gives a lot of his characters quirks. I find his "no talking" stance mad suspect.
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>>134040689
Your bait is weak
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>>134040709
>doffyfag
looool
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>>134040698
This might sound weird but I can see Sanji and Absalom teaming up against a calamity. No idea why but I just have a feeling.
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>>134040739
When he says "we're no here to have a conservation" he means he's not going to negotiate.
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>>134040648
Nobody got 'BTFO' but the retards who thank the victory of a protagonist from a shonen manga was unexpected.
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>>134040689
Bobbin on the other hand casually destroyed a country for Big Mom.

Kaidou confirmed weakest Yonkou crew.
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>>134040766
he's just some shitty kaido underling
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>>134040358
For Luffy to call someone strong means he considers them on his own level, or, historically, stronger than himself (Rayleigh). So someone as strong or stronger than Luffy already lost to Jack.
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>>134040884
Luffy has lost before and there was bunch of people on the island who could take Doffy down (Issho, Sabo, Burgess, Hakuba, Chinao)
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>>134040884
To be fair, Luffy does lose a lot. He got instantly chucked into water due to his own stupidity and would have drowned. Crocodile, Lucci, Sabaody, Impel Down, Marineford. Even against Caesar.

Just saying.
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>>134040928
You're not even trying.

You're better off complaining about Sheepshead.
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>>134040928
For all we know Jack is stronger than Marco.
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>>134040550

>a character asserts his dominance by refusing to parley
>the first thing that to occurs to an OP autist is that he has speech impediment
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>>134041021
what des the average usopp fag look like
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>>134040194
How strong are the Minks compared to other armies of mooks in One Piece? Even the kids have electricity + martial arts.

Here's what I think

Kamabakka Okama masters > Sugar's immortal headcracker army > General Zombies = Gifters > Minks > Amazon Lily's Haki villagers > regular Zombies > Hody's fishman forces > Pleasures > regular armies of marines/pirates
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>>134041028
how do we know that?

I think so too but Id like to know where you see proof
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>>134041021
Is this a c.uck joke or "black people love Sanji" joke ?
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>>134041106
>for all we know
It's not known my point was just that yonko underlings can be strong, and this one definitely is via the proof that Luffy called someone he defeated strong.
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>>134040994
>Issho
Not really. Doffy would never put his social place and the safety of his family in the line if he isn't confident that he can at least pretty badly hurt Fujitora and incapacitate him. His meteorites were nothing to him while Law shat his pants.
>Sabo
Nope. Sabo won against Burgess (a retard) and his new with his flame power. He didn't want to push his luck and go all out against Fujitora because he didn't want to risk heavy injuries. Luffy knows his power perfectly and was a better match against Doffy.
>Burgess
Ah ah, very good joke.
>Hakuba
Yes, because speed is clearly very useful against Doffy. Are you completely nuts? Even Robin said 'Fuck you' to Hakuba and Doffy is miles beyond Robin in terms of 'Fuck you, stay right here.'
>Chinjao
In his prime, maybe. Now, Doffy is just too much agile and proficient with his power for him to strike hard.
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>>134041028
Look man, if Oda gave a fuck about this guy he would have put more effort into hyping this dude up.

Just compare Jack's treatment to Weeble. You can tell who Oda gives more fucks about.
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>>134041083
I don't think the duke is going to be an ungrateful prick like that. Apparently it's not just the Sanji crew that he's thanking so it's most likely something to do with Luffy kicking Caesar's ass or taking down Kaido's supplier.
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Reminder that wb had to defeat all the other yonko to be titled the strongest man in the world, and he jobbed to Kizaru multiple times.
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>>134040994
>citation needed
We have no idea whether any of the characters you listed could have defeated Doflamingo, except:
Hakuba - Lost to Robin
Burgess - good one mate
Chinjao - Defeated without gear 4
who certainly could not.
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>>134041097
sky warriors also, they werent that weak

also, regular marines> bounty hunters
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>>134041304
Kizaru couldn't even beat Marco. Kizaru basically waited till Whitebeard had a seizure or took massive damage from outside forces, blasted him, and then ran away.
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>>134040427
Fucking speed readers it was states the furries would have won if jack didn't use ceasers weapon
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>>134040194
What's wrong with his Tusks?
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Man, I'm really loving the minks.
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>>134041346
It states that their army would have won, not that king mink would have beaten Jack 1v1. Caesar's weapon is AOE.
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>>134040739
Relevant characters don't generally have quirks when in serious mode. The only exception I can think of is Sanji refusing to hit Kalifa.
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>>134041021
Hol up

u be sayin

If i become a sanjifag

I'll be druwning in pussy or sumthang?
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>>134041320
True, I think the Skypeians might could equal or slightly exceed Hody's average fish thug and Enel's divine soldiers (the sheep things) just below that.
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>>134041346
You're saying the SAME THING as the other poster you replied to. Reading comprehension problem, m8?
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>>134041308
>Hakuba - Lost to Robin
Highly debatable. She only stopped him because she had enough time to see him coming.
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>>134041466
also ine one piece you can "lose" to weaker people due to unfortunate match ups and luck, the only reasons why luffy defeated crocodile and enel
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>>134041396
I don't get it. Jack is consistently shown as an insane rager and violent prick. Of course he's not going to have a peacful fucking conversation with some nobodies.
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Not really. He's just big.
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>>134041540
For you
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>>134041532
Enel losing to Luffy was raw plot armour, nothing more. Considering Enel can basically see what Luffy is going to do before Luffy does it, he should've known that he was going to throw the golden ball at him stupidly fast and been able to just zap somewhere else.
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>>134040445
Why wouldn't we think he's jobber when he's already jobbed once? He hasn't shown anything impressive.
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>>134041466
I don't think she'd be able to do that to Zoro, considering Fujitora couldn't.
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>>134041068
Like normal people that is smart enough to don't use 4chan or facebook memes
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>>134041599
I thought the same thing, but I have a head canon for that, though it's kinda ridiculous:

When luffy was about to punch him, enel decided to dematerialize once the ball came close, but as soon as it touched the electricity, he discharged due to gold being an extremely good conductor, and his real body became vulnerable
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>>134041746
You're right, that was fucking retarded considering Enel had shown himself to be able to straight up move through an amount of gold that the ball was only a fraction of with no problems.
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>>134041795
i wish someone would have asked oda what's up with that, so he could at least pull something out of his ass
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>>134041639
To be fair, it comes down to the match up, like he was saying. Zoro is insanely strong physically. Cavendish is quick as a motherfucker but his feats of strength kinda lack.
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>>134041746
>>134041827
>>134041795
The reason was that the punch was too fast, right ? No matter what kind of god you are, what kind of insane CoO you have, what kind of speedy Logia you have, if your reactions are shit, it all means fuck all. Enel simply couldn't react in time. He saw the fist, barely finished a thought, got smashed.
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Episode 719 was shit. I know the anime is shit but 719 was especially bad

Orlumbus throwing Zoro was so cool in the manga
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>>134041599
i think at that point enel was so confused/angry and in an exctasy kind of state that he wasnt even using his CoO anymore
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>>134041610
>jobbed
>to former fleet admiral
>and an admiral with fucking gravity powers on a ship
I like how this term has evolved over the years. Job just basically means lose now.
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>>134041835
Hakuba wouldn't even be able to cut Doflamingo through his string though, I agree that the matchup is important and there's no way Hakuba would beat Doflamingo other than act of god.
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>>134041348
Never seen mammoth tusks? They are bending in strang ways
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>>134041906
You don't need to react to anything when you can see what someone is going to do seconds before they do it. Even if he couldn't sense Luffy's intention to throw the ball insanely fast, he'd see the ball itself building up more and more speed before it's actually built the speed up. Like damn son nigger you can't surprise a guy who can see into the future through a person's intent like that.
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>>134040977
True, I don't remember a single instance of Luffy calling someone strong when they weren't ridiculously so.
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>>134041934
Oh, of course, there's no doubt about that. I wasn't the guy who said that. Hell, Cavendish was stunned at seeing Gear 4. Pretty sure he would just sleepwalk right into Doffy's strings.
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>>134041404
das rite
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Reminder that Sanji casually one shot Jack's right hand man.
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>>134041108
its at least 3 memes in one
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>>134041984
Except he has to consciously use Haki to know the future. Enel was cocky as fuck at that point and wanted to end it by stabbing Luffy. It was only after he saw the anus ripper 9000 that he realised he fucked up.
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Any Pandaman sightings on Zou yet?
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>>134042053
I can't even tell if this is bait or plain stupidity these days.
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>>134042053
Sanji is a badass motherfucker though.
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>>134042157
It still seems like a huge stretch that this even worked. Putting aside the ridiculous weight of the ball and the impossible waver ride, all Enel had to do was take a step to the side and watch Luffy fall. End of the fight, Enel wins. Then again that means Luffy may have wrecked his ship.

It's still the most desperate attack we've seen in One Piece so far.
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>>134041340
While I completely disagree that he jobbed to Kizaru, the latter was shown to attack Whitebeard multiple times, not just 'when wb had a seizure'. Don't be silly.
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>>134042330
>a huge stretch
Ayyy
Also, seriously ? Anon, you can't bring logic into stuff like this. You just can't. Shit, Luffy could have been killed by Buggy in like chapter 8 if we brought logic into it. Enel simply was a cocky guy who thought he could deal with it. Clearly, he was wrong. That's all there is to it. Don't think about it too much, bro.
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Everyone remember to do your best to appreciate Penguin today!
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One Piece manga or anime?
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>>134042389
The attack you just posted didn't hit Whitebeard. The only time he did was when Whitebeard was wounded badly by someone else or literally just had a seizure or both.
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>>134042601
His point was that Kizaru didn't wait till WB was weakened to attack him. No one said anything about actually hitting the target.
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>>134040994
>Issho

Yea I can see it happening. With some difficulty.

>Sabo

Maybe. Depends on how serious Issho was in his fight against him.

>Burgess

Jobbed like a bitch throughout the chapter.
Sadly he didn't have a strong showing at all, which is sad I like the dude. Wish he had better post timeskip design though.

>Hakuba

Very low probability, he was stopped by Robin. He'll need more showings.

>Chinao

At his prime totally, Garp at his prime had to train for his ass. But not as we saw him, Luffy didn't need to pull out Gear 4th for him.
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>>134042574
anime is ok until episode 315
then manga
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>>134042574
Go ahead and watch those 700+ episodes by fucking Toei senpai
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>>134042601
it was a misunderstanding, I thought you were meaning to carry on the already-discussed point of 'kizaru is a coward and only attacks wb when he's weakened and is having a seizure'. I agree with you about that, he only managed to land a hit with that sneaky attack
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>>134042637
he shot a similar AOE to what he used against Law's submarine from a great distance in that page.

He never approaches whitebeard to attack him unless Whitebeard is having a seizure/was just massively wounded/both, and then immediately runs. You might not like this fact but it is one.
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>>134042646
Sabo who learned to control his fruit properly would certainly be a match for Doffy, and even in his current state, he probably could have managed. I think it makes sense that the power hierarchy between the three brothers would be maintained over time, so Ace > Sabo > Luffy.
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>>134042655
I'd argue it was great until the Timeskip. Thriller Bark was pretty amazing, especially Zoro vs Ryuuma. They did justice to the Kuma scene as well. Sabaody was amazing too. Marineford is where it gets kinda tedious, in my opinion.
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>>134042574
manga in till water 7
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I swear if I read the word that starts with j and ends with ber one more time I will fucking kill you all
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>>134042743

Yea I can't see Sabo being an easy win for Doffy even without the fruit.

I just don't know if he'd actually be capable of BEATING Doffy.
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>>134042782
same thing with the two words that begin with an 'admiral' and end with a 'level'. I can't fucking stand this retarded term anymore.
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>>134042700
Nigga, why the fuck would he ? That's like saying Usopp is shit because he only snipes people, not fight them at melee. Dude is the strongest man in the World, no matter how sick he is.
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I hope Chopper gets a qt mink gf. I hope Robin gets jealous.
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>>134042782
What word ? Jobber ?
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>>134042814
let it be. We've already had this discussion and it got stupid incredibly fast. To sum it up, a ranged attack does not qualify as an attack and because he didn't get close he's a coward.

Yeah, I know.
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>>134042823
I want to be married to a strong mink woman
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>>134042743
ace is a shitter

Currently

Sabo=Luffy>>Ace
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>>134040736
No you.
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>>134042782
jobber?
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>>134042854
>>134042867
good, this is what you wanted
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUU
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I hate Usopp, he's the biggest jobber of shounen manga
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I wonder what Jacks quirk will be.

It'll be nice to have a flawed villain again.

Doffy was a gary Stu
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>>134041404
trying too hard aniki
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>>134042864
Luffy is stronger now than Ace was before he died but pre-timeskip, I'm fairly certain Ace was still stronger than Luffy.
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What's the most broken DF combo you can think of?

>Sugar + Absalom
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>>134042902
>>134042905
the memes
they just keep coming
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I want the SHs to get defeated by Kaidou and have a training arc with the Minks and Wano Samurai.
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>>134042905
His quirk was that he's flamboyant as fuck.
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>>134042934
Sugar + Robin
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>>134042928

Ace was Admiral Level

The only reason he lost to sakazuki was because of DF weakness.

He fought on par with Kuzan
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>>134042934
Robin + dick dick fruit
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>>134042896
Come on, anon. I know you smiled.
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>>134042970

Wasn't obvious though and no he wasn't he just wore flashy clothes.

If you have to give him a quirk, it would have to be his arrogance/superiority complex/narcissism
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>>134042934
Nikyu Nikyu + Ito Ito

Birdcage and then you repel people and throw them against it. Easy.

>>134042990
FUCK YOU

AND YOUR ADMIRAL LEVEL

HOLY SHIT

AND IF HE WAS NOWHERE NEAR CLOSE THE STRENGHT OF KUZAN LIKE HELL HE WOULD'VE LOST TO BLACKBEARD
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>>134042990
He may not have even lost. The fight was never completed. He died immediately after their first clash because Akainu decided that Ace was a burden and Luffy was an easy kill.
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>>134042934
Easy. Kuma + Sugar.
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>>134042990
>fought on par with Kuzan
>got defeated by Blackbeard
>Blackbeard fled from Sakazuki
>Sakazuki defeated Kuzan
?????
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bq8XlJ4NjE

Who /waiting for 808/ here
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>>134042990
He did? When?
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>>134042905
His quirk is that he jobs. He's got the jobber jobber no mi.
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>>134043045
>STRENGHT
LEARN TO FUCKING SPELL WORDS CORRECTLY NIGGER
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>>134043045
Blackbeard would wreck Kuzan, he would draw all the ice into darkness, pull Kuzan, and break his neck. This is pre quake.
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>>134042782
Jobber
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Fucking Oda is teasing the fuck out of us with Sanji and nobody even asked where Caesar is so far. Dammit I am getting impatient
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>>134043079
SORRY
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So what happened to Sanji?
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>>134042934

caesar and barto
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>>134043082
Yeah, this wouldn't happen at all.
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>>134042990
>Ace was Admiral Level
Then I guess Pre-Quake BB was Admiral Level too? You're fanboying a lil' hard here.
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>>134043082
Blackbeard would wreck Sakazuki. He would draw all the magma into darkness, pull Sakazuki, and break his neck. This is pre quake.
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>>134042990
Fire is normally pretty good against ice. For the same reason that Ace lost to Sakazuki, he may have been doing well against Kuzan. It's difficult to say how strong Ace really was since the only real fight he had was against Blackbeard, which he lost. And we will never have a comparison because Blackbeard is now much much more powerful than he was back then.
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>>134043117
You're delusional if you believe Kuzan could defeat Blackbeard.
>>134043126
Pre Darkness Blackbeard was Shanks level.
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>>134043073
How did he job when he got out no problem after beating the strongest Mink?
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>>134042934
Doflamingo + Sugar. I think observation haki can sense Absalom.

If Sugar was fighting along side Doflamingo instead of Trebol, it wouldn't even be a fight. Dofla parasites regular Luffy, Sugar crawls out of her hole and touches Luffy while he is dumbfounded and confused about the situation.

Law is occupied by the Cloneflamingo and then gets gangbanged again.
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>>134043148
He would defeat Sakazuki, but get maimed. Not as bad as Kuzan who lost his leg though. Blackbeard tried to win favor with Sakazuki by delivering Bonney, that was his real intention.
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>>134043155
>Shanks Level
Okay, I thought you were an Ace fanboy but you're clearly trolling.
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Did Jack fight against Nekomamushi too?
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>>134043155
you are delusional if you think you can pass off your retarded reasoning that consists of 'he draws all the ice and then breaks his neck' and don't provide anything more substantial to prove your claim that he would wreck Kuzan. For how I see it, there's no real way to tell which one of the two would win pre-ts. Post-ts, my bet is on BB.

>>134043191
no it wasn't? He wanted to get a marine ship to travel the NW since his old one was wrecked or something. He never even expected Sakazuki to show up.
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>>134043155
He could easily defeat Blackbeard. You're the retarded BBFag here.
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>>134043215
This is according to Shanks, it's not fanboying.

Shanks boards Whitebeard's ship just to warn Whitebeard that Blackbeard scarred his face in a legit fight.

You're clearly speedreading.
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>>134043154
I think the fight against Blackbeard was a demonstration that power levels aren't linear in this manga like they are in Dragonball. Like, some fighting styles and abilities are better against others. Blackbeard exploited a Logia's overreliance on their fruit. It doesn't mean he was stronger than Ace, or than any Admiral, it doesn't mean he was weaker either, it just means he fought some dude and he won and you can't draw "power level" conclusions from just that. Goddamn.
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>>134043155
Jesus Christ
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>>134043252
>literally joined Blackbeard
>could easily defeat him
top kek speedreader.
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>>134043277
That was pre darkness BB.
Who Shanks stated hides his power level.
Who Shanks stated wounded his face in fair combat.

I'm sorry you read too quickly.
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Aside from Sanji and Caesar I want to know what happens on full moon nights and why Wanda is wearing Namis clothes
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SO, who will be the other 2 calamities?

POST BETS
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>>134043376
>Scars means they fought equally
I guess Luffy was equal to Akainu pre-timeskip too
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>>134043255
you are a fucking retard. We know virtually nothing about when the scar was done, he never says 'oh the other day I met bb and he did me this, be careful'. There's not enough knowledge about it, for all we know it was done during their younghood. Point being, if THAT is your proof that BB could have beaten Shanks pre-ts then you're off to a bad start

also I honestly can't grasp why you people keep putting Shanks into these discussions, we know absolutely nothing about how he fights or about his actual level of strenght. We know he clashed with Mihawk on par before he lost his arm, and we know that he got a scar by BB, but not when. We don't even know remotely enough to state if he could defeat, say, pre-ts Whitebeard and stuff, we can only speculate. Hell, we don't even know if he could defeat Kaidou since it's not clear if they fought or no. I think he would, but I don't have proof to back it up so I don't come here trying to claim it's the truth
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>>134043376
Also Shanks didn't even know Blackbeard had the darkness fruit when he warned Whitebeard about him. He only revealed it to Ace at Banaro, which took place after Shanks warned Whitebeard.
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>>134043384
and the ovbius one
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>>134043273
thank you. I thought Enel was the perfect example of it. Is it so hard to understand?
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>>134043404
Luffy didn't scar Akainu's face pre timeskip.
But Kuzan, who scarred Akainu's face, did.
Another example is Rayleigh cutting kizaru's face.

You're grasping. Shanks said he wasn't being careless, meaning only someone of similar or high skill could do it. Mihawk couldn't even scar his face.
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>>134043384
What is this, the Seven Wonders of the Extinct Animal World?
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>He would draw all the X into darkness, pull X, and break X's neck. This is pre quake.

This is literally the only thing BBFags can say. It's retarded.

By that logic you know how Kizaru can beat BB then? He would travel at the speed of light and slice off BB's head with his light sword killing him instantly.

See how easy that was BBFags? There is literally nothing you can do to refute this.
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>>134043465
Because Blackbeard's gravitation draws in even light and he states this outright at Banaro?
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>>134043465
these discussions are always that fucking retarded. Get used to it.

and get ready for when BB actually starts doing something in the NW. Shit will get hilarious.
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>>134043443
That was my immediate guess.
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BB literally said he wasn't ready to face Shanks even with 2 fruits.
Being able to hurt someone doesn't mean being equal in strength to him.
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>>134043465
>Whitebeard's blade couldn't cut through Blackbeard despite being unblocked and undodged.
>Kizaru's could
Yeah....
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>>134043273
There are some objectively stronger-than-other DFs but it doesn't mean the wielder is automatically weaker. I think OP does a good job with its power levels. Kinda funny how strong the Straw Hats got and they're still not anywhere close to endgame strength.
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>>134043535
You seriously believe the strawhats aren't anywhere near end game strength?
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>>134043376
>>134043457
>>134043255

Yet darkness + quake BB still wouldn't fight Shanks. Keep trying, retarded BBFags.
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>>134043563
anyone in his right state of mind does
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>>134043497
Thing is, Blackbeard is hyped up to be the biggest threat among the yonkos. So it stands to reason that we still haven't seen him fight seriously. We don't know the full extent of what happened against Ace, we don't know how he scarred Shanks, I think Blackbeard is a lot more capable than his fat coward exterior shows. So BBFags will get what they want, and they will masturbate all over these threads. there's no way around it.
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>>134043520
True endgame strength? They most certainly are not.
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>>134042934
whitebeard + whitebeard
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THEORY:
mink tribe martial arts i sbased on charge static electicity throught their fur, then release it.
chopper should learn it, being an honorary mink, as zoro should learn the fire/explosion cutting trick.

PS As anybody came up with a good explanation/theory on how zoro fear-paralyzed and killed monet?
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>>134043520
Actually what he "literally" said was that "it's not time for me to face you yet."

Which is a very different statement than "I'm too weak to face you."

Blackbeard is opportunistic and goal oriented. He knows Shanks knows how to get to Raftel, and killing him on Marineford would take away his chance of finding that out.
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I wonder why Jack's Devil Fruit wasn't mentioned in his introduction.

>>134043497
We're gonna have one of those stupid Naruto copypastas.
>And I'm not talking about pre-TS Blackbeard
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>>134043595
I too think BB is one hell of a monster and that he's a monstrous opponent, but I don't try to pass out my headcanons as facts just because I like him. Like I don't come here saying that Kizaru would wreck Sakazuki just because I find him more interesting.
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>>134043601
>true endgame strength
Explain?

Luffy might need to figure out a gattling version of king kong punch, or extend the time limit of gear 4, but I don't think he needs much more than that to take on just about anyone.
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>>134043601
meant for >>134043563
Don't know how I fucked that one up.
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>>134043589
They're weaker than the "endgame" bosses but stronger than 95%+ of the fodder they'll encounter. I'd say that's close enough to endgame strength. I don't expect Usopp to ever fight an admiral or yonko one-on-one, I don't even expect that of Franky, Sharkman or Sanji.
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>>134043494
Nope. I said Kizaru travelled at light speed and sliced off BB's head. BB definitely can't move the speed of light, so Kizaru kills him easily.

I'm just following your own logic, BBFag.
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>>134043376
>>134043408
You're forgetting the fact that Shanks was 20 fucking years younger, you dense cunt. Shit, I agree that Teach is strong but there's nothing to suggest that they're growth has been equal. Fuck, Teach himself said that he wasn't ready to fight Shanks, even though he literally just got the quake fruit and was okay with tangoing against Sengoku and Garp.
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>>134043595
Shanks directly states that he hides his power level. Akainu had to take Ace seriously when he fought him, and then still decided to target Luffy first.

Blackbeard joked around and intentionally didn't target Ace to give a full demonstration of his ability, casually tried to recruit him, tanked spears through his vital organs, and then did a final "ability vs ability" supernova move exchange to beat Ace. The whole fight was shown all the way to Ace's hat falling to the ground with Ace literally not there.
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>>134043679
unfortunately I'll have to agree with you on that. I'd love for them to fight on par with the strongest supernovas and struggle through the NW by fighting opponents on parr with them, but somehow I find it hard to happen. Law looks like the only one powerful enough of his crew, and I can only hope Kidd will deliver on that, but I don't see anyone else quite close to him. Shame on you Oda.

I don't expect Luffy to ever win against any yonko in a 1vs1 actually. Maybe only Blackbeard and because of narrative reasons.
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>>134043722
Shanks was full power and in the current timeline when he warned Whitebeard that Blackbeard was hiding his power level and would take his position, you dense cunt.
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>>134043653
Like Akainu/Shanks/Rayleigh tier.
And that's what we know about. There's also hidden bosses like possibly Kong, maybe Space Pirates and definitely the Gorousei, plus whatever is inevitably awaiting on Raftel, all things we don't know the strength of.

Bro tip: Loflumingo wasn't true endgame strength either.
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>>134042574

Anime is alright if you run One Pace - still not quite as good as the manga though.
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>>134043191
kizaru has the worst fruit for blackbeard.
HIs darkness causes him to take hits and take more damage from them.That's not normally a problem because he has insane resistance, he can even tank whitebeards quake punches. But kizaru's punch can simply melt off your face.
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>>134043526
You really are stupid.

WB can't attack at the speed of light and uses a regular blade.

The force of getting hit with a light sword at the speed of light would cut his head off easily.
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>>134043836
Blackbeard has 0 scars despite having fought Whitebeard, Sengoku, and Shanks.

Kizaru needed help to defeat Marco.
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>>134041198
>Look man, if Oda gave a fuck about this guy he would have put more effort into hyping this dude up.
>was said it would be a bad idea to get him involved in Punk Hazard
>went to go get Doflamingo back with zero fucks in regards to who was guarding him
>destroyed Zou and tortured the minkmen
>sunk 2 marine ships with an admiral around and is still alive

Release day posters are so stupid.
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>>134042574
Dont listen to those other faggots. Manga all the way. Especially since they stop adapting the cover stories after the first two.
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>>134043868
>kizaru's attacks are stronger than whitebeard's
So Rayleigh > Whitebeard?

Because he blocked Kizaru bare skinned. Retard.
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>>134043155

I think we're exaggerating Shanks level here.

>Yonko level
>Got owned by East Blue critter
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this thread is on a whole another level of stupid compared to the usual ones. What's happening?
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>>134043868
>would cut his head off easily
I think getting cut by the stated strongest man's bisento which was strong enough to split the sky when he parried Shanks sword would be worse than getting hit by any of Kizaru's attacks period.

But you're delusional and apparently believe Kizaru's ability to cut is greater than Shanks and Whitebeard's, so there's no point discussing with you.

Kizaru isn't even faster than Rayleigh, who cut his face.
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>>134043800
the one pace site give bad gateway.
where do I find it?
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>>134042861
fucking furries
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>>134043384
A mammoth, a sabertooth and a giant sloth
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>>134043940
>causes structural damage with CoC which is only supposed to be able to knock people out
I mean I know you're trolling, but I'll use it to point this out.
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>>134043795
Full power when ? 20 fucking years ago ? On Roger's ship ? Are you retarded ? Yes, Teach would have taken WB's position because WB was old and sick. Everyone and their mother knew that. No one is saying Teach is weak, you fucking spastic. Shanks is a smart guy. He's been a Yonko for some time. He knows Teach is strong. He knows Teach has been with WB for 2 decades. He knows if something happened, Teach could easily get WB's territory with his knowledge. Now get Teach's cock out of your damn mouth before you type.
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>>134042905
>gary stu
>had PTSD from all the abuse he got from not being royal anymore
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>>134043520

Sigh... Blackbeard wasn't ready to face him because he didn't have full control of his powers yet. Even his darkness ability is not at its full potential.
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>>134043964
nah, it really isn't. I have seen worse release day threads, oh yeah that I have
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>>134044053
these powerlevel discussions seem more retarded than usual. Maybe I'm just getting old.
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>>134042990
>Admiral Level
Stopped reading there, pretty much the sign of a shitpost
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>>134043964
New chapter. What else ?
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>>134043868
>Aokiji was forced to dodge the Bisento with emphasis on the question of if it killed him
>Blackbeard tanked it outright pre skip and was barely damaged.

There's no comparison, Blackbeard is WAY stronger than Kuzan.
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>>134043836
>>134043869
I mean akainu. not kizaru, my bad.
the way to fight akainu is avoid is hits or block them with haki. Both things that blackbeard sucks at. Or at least sucked at pre timeskip.
I think pre timeskip the admirals and blackbeard were more or less equally strong, but bb couldn't beat akainu due to the way he fights.
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>>134043904
Sorry you have terrible reading comprehension anon. I'll repeat myself. WB can't swing his bisento at the speed of light. You can't compare an old Whitebeard swinging a blade to Kizaru swinging his at the speed of light.
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>>134043940

>Structural damage

Now you mentioned it. He was clearly a master of haki. It's a surprise that he didn't use armament haki to cover his arm back then.
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>>134043636
>I wonder why Jack's Devil Fruit wasn't mentioned in his introduction.
That's usually how it is, isn't it?
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>>134044100
Blackbeard tanked the strongest attacks in the entire world pre skip.
Blackbeard would take massive burn damage from Akainu, which would hurt a lot, but then barely damage him, like all other attacks except poison in the story so far.
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>>134043995
Sorry you're retarded.

Whitebeard can't swing at the speed of light.
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>>134044083
by the time people start ignoring the ones who use that retarded term it will be too late.
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Remember the shitposting war that went with this for like a month?
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>>134044145
Yeah. It's why I was curious.
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>>134044112
How can you claim that Whitebeard's swing is slower than Kizaru's just because of Kizaru's devil fruit even though it's already canon that a non devil fruit user can be as fast or faster than him since it was shown that Rayleigh was?
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>>134044179
remember the shitposting about Gear 4th being able to oneshot Doffy at the very beginning of the fight?

good days.
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>>134044091
Kuzan is near Akainu's level as they fought equally for ten days. BB ran from Akainu. Sorry you're wrong, retard.
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>>134044179
The arguments from Law cutting Vergo were worse.

And of course that Don Krieg is stronger than Jozu shit
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>>134042934
Yami Yami + Urogue fruit.
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>>134044159
>Rayleigh can't move at the speed of light
How did he repeatedly block Kizaru and cut his face then?

Whitebeard's attack strength > Kizaru's attack strength. Shanks would cut Kizaru's head off.

Blackbeard will (and already did once) beat Shanks.

Stay delusional.
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>>134042934
I can imagine Issho countering that combo
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>>134040704
I didn't get the joke
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>>134044195
nigger what. Kizaru was readying his kick (putting some pretty heavy emphasis on it too) and shittalking Zoro, and Rayleigh got in between and stopped him from landing the attack. How was he in any conceivable way proven to be faster than the man with the fucking pika pika no mi?
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>>134044224
>BB ran from Akainu
Not because he couldn't fight him.
I can't believe there are anons who unironically believe post skip Blackbeard is weaker than an admiral.
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>>134044179
Yea but I still don't know how people could be that retarded. Just replace the words "Haki" with "Your skin" and "My sword" and you literally have the exact same scene. Some cunts just like to complain about nothing.

>>134044194
Why would you be curious if it's just the norm ?
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Kizaru can't kick at the speed of light. He can travel distances with his ability and apparently blow things up. I don't know how it works.
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>>134044288
After that, he then had multiple exchanges with Kizaru.

He cut Kizaru's face but Kizaru never once landed a blow on Rayleigh.

He was literally faster than prime Kizaru despite being stated to be out of prime himself.
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>>134044296
Well no, I don't think it usually is the norm. I notice DFs mentioned in a character's intro fairly often.
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>>134043636
We've only seen him in flashbacks and cut aways really.

The drought aspect of his fruit is interesting though.

Maybe he's another person with 2 fruits?
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>>134044323
he can, supposedly, shoot beams at the speed of light (well duh) and he can also move at the speed of light, but while he does he travels so fast he apparently can't control his movements at all.
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>mfw patiently waiting for Raizou to join
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>>134044323
He isn't light, he a "beam" like a Star Wars' beam gun.
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>>134044353
>marco jumps in front of a speed of light beam with an initially clear path to whitebeard
holy shit marco can move at the speed of light too wow
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we'll need someone to work on the School of Atens shit with Wano and Zou. I want to see it with the 'it's not gravity who sucks in light, it's darkness' or whatever the fuck that was.
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>>134044376

He's a lazer man then. Lazers don't move at the speed of light.
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>>134044286
What joke ? Zoro just looks like he's used to Luffy's shenanigans. It's just another page showing best bro being best bro.
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>>134044195
I'm just following the other anons reasoning for why BB can defeat anyone in two seconds
>BB draws X into his darkness, pulls X, and breaks X's neck.
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>>134044402
where the fuck did you pull that out from

I was referring to this part
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Japan, seriously

JAPAN SERIOUSLY

DOUJINS FUCKING WHEN
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>>134044026
I see what you did there
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>>134044453
Blackbeard pulls his opponent to his hand, disables their devil fruit, and then hits them as hard as a yonko. He tanks their initial attacks even if they are on par with Whitebeard and Sengoku's and takes barely damage from them.
-pre skip
Blackbeard pulls his opponent to his hand, disables their devil fruit, and then hits them as hard as a yonko + quake. He tanks their attacks even if they are on par with Whitebeard's and Sengoku's and takes barely damage from them.
post skip
Is that easier for you?
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>>134044488
2/3
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>>134044489
I'm not sure if japs are big on fur
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>>134043785
>I don't expect Luffy to ever win against any yonko in a 1vs1 actually
that makes you an idiot
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>>134044488
I was pointing out that literally Marco was fast enough to get in the way of his "light speed" attacks. You know, the yonko captain who couldn't avoid garp's punch?
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>>134044345
Really ? I think we get a reveal first then the fruit name, after, no ? Admittedly, Lucci is the only one I can think off, that fits the scenario since Marco and Sengoku, etc. were in different circumstances.
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>>134044532
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>>134044153
akainu doesn't do burn damage. Akainu literally burned off half of whitebeards head with a single punch.
And blackbeard can't avoid getting hit.
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>>134043940
>Shanks lost his arm to Lord of the Coast
>years later Luffy punched Lord of the Coast effortlessly
Luffy confirmed yonko level since East Blue
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>>134044291
Yeah terrible excuse, BBFag. So he can kill Whitebeard but not Akainu. He can scar Shanks with no DF but can't fight him with two of the strongest DFs?

All because "waaah he didn't want to"

Funny how whenever BB actually comes up to someone stronger than him BBFags will use that same excuse without fail every time.
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>>134044612

>Akainu
>Beating blackbeard
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>>134044432
>>134040704
Zoro fucking loves Luffy's recklessness. Just look at the shit-eating grin on his face as his captain barges into a conversation with a Yonkou.
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>>134044612
Probably why he didn't fight him, he didn't want permanent scars.
Akainu's ability is disabled once he's in melee range of Blackbeard, and melee was Akainu's prefered combat method, only using ranged to sink the Moby Dick.
Blackbeard would have beaten Akainu but possibly at a heavy cost, so being true to his character he avoided the fight.
If you disable Akainu's devil fruit any remnant magma will become a weapon against Akainu as well, and you can't avoid being hit by Blackbeard either.
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>>134044224
because kuzan's attack would do nothing to blackbeard. But akainu's punches would erase his face.
BB needs to improve his armament haki before he can fight off against akainu, as since he's spend many years on whitebeard's ship suppressing his ambition it is not as strong as it could be.
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>>134044520
Yeah, you're delusional. And Kizaru travels at light speed and kills BB before he reacts. See how I can pretend to act retarded too, anon?
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>>134044661
Blackbeard let Luffy go because he didn't want to fight him either, faggot. It's literally his character that he is patient as fuck and doesn't fight unnecessarily regardless of if he could win.

Next you'll be telling me he didn't defeat Luffy at Impel Down because he was scared of him and would have lost.

Shank describes Blackbeard to Whitebeard, yonko to yonko, as hiding his powerlevel. Which is a meaningless statement unless Blackbeard was already yonko level.
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>>134044718

Why would anything created by Akainus devil fruit remain after he lose his DF powers? I expect if BB touches Akainu all the magma will disappear.
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>>134043443
>Female Sabertooth zoan user as one of the calamities.

It's almost guaranteed.
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>>134044684
Zoro would never follow a captain that's meek, shy or indecisive. After the Usopp vs Luffy fight, he's made it quite clear he'll only follow a captain who doesn't show weakness. Exception being when it's the crew beating him up for being an idiot.

So yes, when his captain shittalks a yonko, he isn't just fine with it, he's understandably pleased.
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>>134042902
usopp was always meant to be the most human of the crew. Thus him being weak is expected.

However when one of your monster trio who is expected to be strong but loses all the time. Is what a jobber is. Aka Sanji and Burgess
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>>134044650
Why the hell does everyone assume that Shanks was Yonkou level at that point in the series? It was 10 fucking years before Luffy decided to set sail on his own, it's perfectly reasonable that he simply leveled up from that point and became a Yonkou in that TEN YEAR timespan

Ten years is a long fucking time guys, seriously
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This isn't Dragon Ball you fags
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>>134044777
Except his fatal blows would do barely damage instead of kill him.

Kind of like how Ace stabbed him with spears through all of his vital organs but it did barely damage instead of killing him. It'd be a repeat of that.

Or when Whitebeard tried to slice him through with his haki bisento but it did barely damage instead. Or when Whitebeard tried to kill him outright with quake punch but it did barely damage instead. Or when Sengoku tried to kill him outright using his strongest attack because Blackbeard was literally sinking the Marine HQ but it did barely damage instead.
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>>134044718
only once he hits you, and as we've seen from his fight with ace and whitebeard while he pulls you in still gives enough time for you to launch your attack at him.
thing is akainu's attacks are one hit kill if they connect, regardless of your resistance or power, since it worked on whitebeard even.
Not the strongest oppoents can avoid them or block them with haki.
Even the injured whitebeard could avoid the punch hitting his face full on and only lost half his face.
But blackbeard due to the natture of his fruit and his low ability with haki can't do either.
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>>134044837
Because if he wasn't Shanks had no reason to mention it to Whitebeard in the current timeline as evidence that Blackbeard was legitimately strong enough to dethrone him, you speed reading retard.

You're disregarding SHANKS statements to Whitebeard in the CURRENT timeline, which means you are trolling or stupid, because Shanks prediction came true.
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>>134044684
>>134044813
I fucking love that about Luffy and Zoro. They just know each other perfectly. And yea, I think post-TS soro's been itching for Luffy to get into every fight possible. Him raring to go against Fujitora even after knowing how strong an Admiral can be, for example. I love it.
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>>134044837
When Shanks warned Whitebeard two weeks before Marineford that Blackbeard legit scarred his face and that Blackbeard would take his spot did he add "lol but i was a lot weaker when i got scarred man don't take it seriously lol!"?

No he fucking didn't. Instead he said Blackbeard had been hiding his immense power level for 20 years.
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>>134044845
>tfw shitposters will never stop responding to other shitposters
Like flies attracted to each other's shit.
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>>134044851
Sorry you can't read anon. I said he killed BB before he can react. Therefore, that's what would happen because I said so. It's just like how BB can kill anyone by sucking them in and hitting them because the other anon said so.

Sorry you can't into reasoning.
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>>134044856
Ace was able to handle Akainu's attacks as proven by the fact that he exchanged blows with Akainu and was not killed or even crippled by them before Akainu targeted Luffy and Ace intentionally took the full force of the blow through his chest to save his brother.

This proves you wrong outright. Ace clashed with Akainu without being killed before he was forced to surrender his life to preserve Luffy's.
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>>134044837

Try to understand this. Shanks was back in his home town after seeing everything in grand line. He conquered and adventured his whole life and came back to his old town for nostalgia. He was definitely yonko level or very close. In any case he was times stronger than Luffy right now. The only reason why he lost his arm because Oda didn't intend Haki in the beginning. It's an invention to give Luffy an ability the protagonist to fight the seemingly overpowered logia users. He wrote himself to a corner.
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are you ready for an arc dedicated entirely to the best pirate?

>>134044946
I think I'll just start ignoring them instead of trying to reason with them. Should've realized it a long time ago
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>>134044999
Except you're ignoring canon where it's shown that deadly blows are not deadly or even seriously harmful to Blackbeard in specific.

I'm not "just saying" things, you're just unable to read.

You can hit Blackbeard before he can react. It will do barely damage, unless you're stronger than Whitebeard.
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>>134044895
>>134044942
That still doesnt imply he's as strong as he was then as he is now.
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>>134044932
Yeah, Zoro isn't the vice-captain because he views Luffy as a friend, he's there because he respects his strength and believes he can become the pirate king, and following him is his best bet of becoming the best swordsman. Them not being "friends" per se is what makes the dynamic between these characters so good.

When they fought on that Baroque Works island, Zoro wasn't holding back, it may have been a fight to the death in his eyes. It's all about strength for him.
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>>134045067
If it doesn't imply that then it does imply that Shanks was overwhelmingly outmatched by Blackbeard when he got the scar, to the point that he believes Blackbeard is strong enough to fight the strongest yonko in the world in the present timeline.

So either way.
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>>134044932
Post-TS Zoro is just bored as fuck because he spent too much time grinding and is now overleveled for the content they're doing. The man wants a challenge he's likely only to get from Admirals, Warlords or Yonko crews.
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Wait. Did Sanji agreed to go with Kaidou so that he'll leave the country?
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>>134042330
Enel was also trying to prevent Luffy from ringing the bell, if he took a step to the side the bell would ring
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>>134045096
I think he'll find something worthy of him on Wano. That country is supposedly full of terrific fighters, like hell he's going to steamroll through everything again. R-right?
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>>134044942
>legit
Yeah, whatever you say. We definitely know exactly what happened and that Shanks would never exaggerate his words for his own benefit.
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>>134045115

lol. Does Sanji hold any power to negotiate that?
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>>134045115
Sanji captured the ninja, gave him to Jack and saved the country.
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>>134045069
At the same time, their encounter with Kuma on Thriller Bark clearly demonstrated how Sanji and Zoro were both willing to sacrifice themselves if it meant letting Luffy survive. An important moment in the story where it's shown that Luffy's crew have all placed their personal dreams as secondary to making Luffy king, which is really what 'The #th crew-mate' chapters signify.
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>>134045030
Now you're learnin'.
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I was hype as fuck for Jack but this chapter ruined it for me.

>fodder like sheepshead and gin rummy directly beneath him
>fucking mink children wrecking his fodder
>mink had the upper hand without the poison gas
>tired and old ass looking not to mention the dumb hair
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ITT BBFags have brainwashed themselves into thinking he is immune to all damage and can't be killed.
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>>134045115
Sanji is on the run trying to get back a captured CC.
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>>134045189
I don't think that shows Zoro having any friendship towards Luffy, I think it's more like a very strong sense of duty. If, as vice-captain, he can't even protect his captain, then his dream just isn't attainable. The moment was more telling for Sanji, who we never saw showing much respect for Luffy before that.
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>>134045183
Then why is he gone and left a letter? He clearly went on his own accord somewhere after the battle.
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>>134045183
>Sanji captured the ninja, gave him to Jack and saved the country.
Didn't Sanji swear to take responsibility for the samurai on PH? He might think Kinemon and Momo are annoying but I doubt he'd ever hand over their friend to a murderous psycho
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>>134045241
BB is the tryhard of the series, spending 20 years just to get the most OP combo and grinding the fuck out of his STR/HP just to spam Vortex/Quake punch with impunity.
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>>134044219
King Kong Gun probably could have if it was the first move Luffy used.
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>>134045315
Seems pretty accurate.
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>>134045018
>He was definitely yonko level or very close.
>definitely
Still dont see how you can come to this conclusion. If we're assuming that Shanks is around equal grounds with Whitebeard post-timeskip, you're telling me that Blackbeard 10 years back was around Whitebeard's level too? Blackbeard was complete shit next to Whitebeard in Marineford. And why cant Shanks be considered strong 10 years back without being Yonko level? You seem to forget that the Yonko are supposed to be fucking strongest pirates. They are an exception. Whitebeard knew Shanks since way back when because he was part of Roger's, his rival's crew. He could've still been exceptionally strong but just not Yonko level yet like maybe Luffy is. It's just retarded to think that both Shanks and Blackbeard were as strong back then as they are now, and that includes Shank's abilities to hone his haki too.
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>>134045069
No, I disagree. I think your post is correct for Arabasta or perhaps even Skypiea, but Soro definitely started changing. It was less about him and more about Luffy. Of couree, Zoro still cared about his dream but at some point he started to want to make Luffy the Pirate King. Kinda like how Ace always said he'd make Whitebeard the PK. I think they are past friends at this point. They trully are like brothers. Not my "Best bro" stuff. I mean an actual brother.

>>134045096
>>134045135
He Is going to steamroll most of Wano but then he'd fight Jack. And since Wano is scared of Kaido, they'll think Zoro defeating Jack is super awesome and deem him worthy of holding Shusui. For some reason, I don't think we'd get much Zoro backstory in Wano.
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>>134045218
this is what I loved bot Enel....droppin' motherfuckers without badass boasts or threats. He was the Saitama of sky island before Luffy showed up
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>>134045343
>If we're assuming that Shanks is around equal grounds with Whitebeard post-timeskip
I meant pre-timeskip during the Marineford war
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So Sheepshead and Ginrummy are both card games names. The question is, is 'Jack' meant to be 'Black Jack' or the face card 'Jack'
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>>134045355
Why the fuck do I keep typing "Soro" ?
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>>134045343
>Blackbeard was complete shit next to Whitebeard in Marineford.
Not a BBfag but I'd just like to point out there's no basis for that as we didn't see BB fighting seriously on Marineford. It's fairly clear that BB is being hyped up as one of if not the most dangerous man in the world, him being a coward and avoiding fights whenever possible doesn't make him weak.
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>>134045240
>fodder like sheepshead and gin rummy directly beneath him
they are literally underlings of an underling, what the fuck did you expect?
>fucking mink children wrecking his fodder
underlings of underlings of an underling, you get it?
>mink had the upper hand without the poison gas
well, Oda made it pretty clear that the Mink race is strong as fuck and Inuarashi most likely fought Jack while Jacks minions where outnumbered by countless strong fighters
>tired and old ass looking not to mention the dumb hair
I give you the hair but tired and old? This is just how a mammoth looks like
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>>134045387
Yep. Personality fit perfectly too. Enel was a unique character.
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>>134045324
I don't know about you, but I'm fairly sure Doflamingo would've... You know... Avoided the attack.

Besides, I'm confident enough someone capable to stand up after getting his own internal organs ruptured and after a good ass beating with Gear 4 could withstand King Kong Gun as first move. May be just me though.


also this catpcha is driving me fucking insane. The images one is broken to hell and back and the legacy one doesn't make sense.
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>>134045401
Face card, like Joker. I think important people are going to be based on Face Cards, the Three Calamities being Jack, King and Queen. Kaido would be the Ace, I guess. The rest would be card based, like Diamonds, Heart, etc.
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>>134045401
King : Kaido
Queen : hopefully fit sabertooth girl
Jack : Jack
Ten : X Drake
Joker : Joker
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>>134040704
Mark my words.
It will be turned out something like this later:
Mink lord: Hmm so the tow samurai we captured right now came with you and the Momonosuke one is a samurai too.
Half of the SH's making a fucking scared face.
Then Dog King continues. Ok, then they are welcomed and now release them!
We should not blame any of the Wano people and samurai for what Jack did to us.
Then they laughing and Usopps will note, they took the wrong consequences about the minks again.

Or something similar shit will be happen.
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>>134045270

>I don't think that shows Zoro having any friendship towards Luffy

>The moment was more telling for Sanji, who we never saw showing much respect for Luffy before that

Wow.
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>>134045401
Where is sudoku-kun when you need him?
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>>134045494
>Ten : X Drake

Fuck.

Oda had it planned all along, didn't he.
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>>134045429
Enel was best villain. I also really liked Doffy, and Crocodile, but Enel holds a special place in my heart.

Issho has the potential to be a really interesting antagonist if he doesn't go the very predictable route of siding with Luffy. We know he's willing to kill Luffy, even if reluctantly, despite the respect he has for him.
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>>134045468
But we already had Doffy's executives with the suit theme
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>>134045495
Agreed. Read >>134041276
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>Sicilian
>Shishi Lion

You think I'm not onto your shit Oda?
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>>134040403
Even if the dog girl is a canine mink she doesn't have any canines, that mouth is fucking creepy.
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>>134045429
Enel and his ministache army vs Admiral BB when? He's exactly the kind of Logia BB keeps talking about when he accuses Logia's of relying too much on their fruits power. I can't wait for him to get rescued by Luffy, whose awakened fruit will allow him to tank BB's quake punches
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>>134045409
Come on. The nigger was shitting his pants back in Marine Ford when going against an old-near-death White Beard. I still don't see how this nigger 10 years back that injured Shanks is anywhere near Shanks's level NOW like you guys are saying. Again, you can be considered strong without being Yonko level you know.
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>>134045545
That was the point ? Joker's was the name of the suites. Jack's is, presumably, name of card games. Some thing for Queen and King with the Ace being the only exception.
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>>134045635
Again, that just shows him being a coward. He's scared of pain. But he tanked both those hits like a fucking boss. BB's health pool is ridiculous.
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>>134045491
no, but, seriously, kuina killed herself. she was depressed her gender would have impeded oa swordman career. she was too good to just slip.
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>>134045494
The queen is probably Kaido's dead wife, and that's why he is trying to suicide.
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>>134045699
People die very easily in flashbacks.
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>>134045635
really, can you blame him? Everything about Whitebeard was intimidating, from his height to his strength to his fruit. And he just would not die, to top it off, despite being in his 80's, dying of One Piece cancer and having his face and insides incinerated by magma, not to mention all the gunshot and cannonball wounds. He was practically Satan at that point
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>>134045727
yes and no.
the point is:
oda will never go back to it.
it's the best types of fan theory.
the type that lingers in the air forever.
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I want to see Zoro fight a giant master swordsman trained in Wano
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>>134045707
FUUUUUUUUUCK. THE QUEEN IS WEEVIL'S MOM. THE DAD IS ACTUALLY JACK AND JACK IS PARANOID THAT THE KING WOULD KNOW SO HE DOESN'T LET ANYONE TALK. KAIDO WANTS TO KILL HIMSELF BECAUSE HE WANTED HIS SON TO LOOK LIKE A BADASS
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>>134045699
Well it is possible, mihawk is the greatest swordsman out there And kuina had the potential to become the greatest as Well And her father isn't shabby with the sword either. So it wouldn't be impossible.
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Pre time skip Yami Teach got hurt pretty badly by Luffy i wouldn't even putin current Sanji level to be honest Pre-timeksip gura teach had pretty much the same stats the only difference is that his fruit gave him greater offensive power but he hardly ahd any control over it so i wouldn't even pu tim at Doflamingo level.

Kaido>Shanks>Akainu>Big Mom>Yonko Teach>Doflamingo>Gura Gura no mi Teach
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>>134045837
Giant as in actual giant or just strong ?
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>>134045875
I love how you put big mom on there in a completely random manner since we have, quite literally, no idea of how strong she is in combat. Good job.
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>>134045868
Mihawk is like 43 or something, anon. But, whatever floats your boat, I guess.
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>>134045905
actual giant. Bonus points to Zoro if he actually overwhelms the giant with his swords sheathed, though at that point the Zoro wankery would be outstaying its welcome.
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>>134045942
She is obviously weaker than Kaido and Shanks but i'd still put Teach as the weakest Yonko since he's still basically a rookie.
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>>134045837
I hope it is some easter egg character like the admirals, possibly toshiro mifune.
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>>134045998
Fair enough. I think Weeble is the weakest shichibukai. Why? Well of course, because he's the rookie of the group
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>>134045968
I, for one, welcome the wankery. But really, I think that would be fucking jizz inducing. Kinda like a Miss Monday scene. Afterwards, Zoro would boast for someone strong to show up and hopefully someone will.
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>>134045875
Pre-timeskip Blackbeard could defeat the 2nd division commander of a yonko,plus a logia user,plus a CoC user,plus the fucking son of the pirate king.Your argument is retarded,BB could obviously defeat everyone who you mentioned if he had to.
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>>134046050
>His powers have been praised by Kizaru who compared his abilities to that of a younger Whitebeard, his alleged father. He was able to single-handedly defeat 16 pirate crews affiliated with Whitebeard and defeated the A.O Pirates without taking a single injury.[1]
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>>134045699
Why did Kuina think puberty would automatically put her behind boys when she defeated a boy who already had the strength to defeat grown men 200 times?
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>>134046151
you are a fucking retard.
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>>134046050
That's a stupid comparison since literally anyone can become a shichibukai as long as the WG finds them useful. but in order to be a Yonko you need to be extremely strong and i doubt Teach managed to overcome that gap so soon, he's still hunting for strong devil fruit in order to get stronger, you can't go from being weaker that Doflamingo to being able to defeat a Yonko in only 2 years.
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>>134046154
*2000
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>>134046151
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>>134046154
Every girl in One Piece gets huge knockers after hitting puberty, they would get in the way
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>>134045942
big mom manages to seize fishman island (that due to position has an important role to controling new world) without objections from any yonko or blackbeard.
that's a mark of strengh
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>>134046154
Because her father kept reinforcing that idea in her mind and she was an impressionable kid
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NOTHING HAPPENS: THE CHAPTER

Fucks sake Oda.
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>>134045837
Zoro will fight a lot in Wano, every single Samurai will be following his ass trying to get Shusui back.
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>>134046230
how you can build whole point on a headcanon of yours that says that BB was weaker than Doflamingo pre-ts is beyond me. In any case, your logic is sound to a certain degree, but you have to realize Blackbeard has been gathering strenght and resources these past two years. Having the Gura Gura is, by itself, a terrific powerup because of the nature of the fruit itself. Add that to the fact that he already owned what's considered to be the strongest Logia and there you are. If we talk about his crew, he even seems to have recruited Aokiji (sounds fishy to me, but as far as we know that's how it is)

I can't say shit about how strong he is compared to the other Yonkous because we don't know much about them, but if I had to guess he'd be above Big Mom and probably Kaido. I guess we'll need to wait to find out
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>>134045698
>>134045728
Blackbeard may be a formidable end game villian now, especially with Whitebeard's DF powers too, but he was still a little bitch against Whitebeard during MF. Still doesnt make sense how you'd think Shanks 10 years ago who couldnt properly defend himself against this nigger 10 years ago was anyway near Whitebeards/Shanks level during Marine Ford. Remember Shanks was able to stop the entire war, including Blackbeard.
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>>134046409
>being 6 threads late
AYYY LMAO
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>>134045962
Okay okay, fair enough, BUT what if mihawk was her father? I mean Come on there has to be a link between these two...
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>>134046344
how does it give you any indication to how strong she is compared to the other emperors combat-wise? Of course she's strong nigga. She owns her status for a reason. Still, about her combat abilities, we have next to none informations and we cannot even begin to draw out a conclusion of which emperor is stronger than the other, at least for the time being
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>>134046448
Just had the time to read it. Still mad about where this arc is heading. We will get a lot of shit chapters where nothing happens by the looks of it.
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>>134046411
>probably above Kaido

Kaido has been literally confirmed as the strongest character in the series you know "strongest living thing" motherfucker is like the Meruem of OP
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>>134046424
>he was still a little bitch
Sure, and I don't expect that aspect of his personality to change. I want the full endgame fight against BB to be him shitting his pants, squirming, complaining about how painful every hit is, even as he's tanking everything like a boss and overpowering Luffy.
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>>134046532
yeah, yeah, whatever Mr. Mememeister
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>>134046411
There was a power creep over the time skip, Yami (no Gura) Teach and Ace being slightly below Doflamingo is just fine.

BB barely got his fruits and has hardly mastered them, his base power is incredible and awakening both of those fruits will definitely make him a match for other Yonko. This is not even including any additional fruits he consumed.
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>>134046154
dunnow, go read the chapter.
honestly my fan theory is palatable just because slipping is such a lameass excuse to kill a bg char.
oda could have said "and she got cancer. and died. end the flashback." and it would be the same.
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>>134046490
No ? Why would there have to be any link whatsoever ? You think Kuina was only strong because somehow the Dracule blood is magic ? No, fuck that. Kuina was just a strong ass kid who ended up killing herself. Mihawk is just a strong ass dude who wants someone to entertain him.
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>>134046084
hopefully Wano kingdoms royal sword instructor will show up and be the Yoda to Zoro's Skywalker. Zoro still needs to attain Mihawk's battle zen to become the best, and hopefully his swordsmanship will be further refined by an opponent who excels in evasion and countering rather than aggressive sword clashing.
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>>134046411
And pre-ts Teach being weaker than Doflamingo isn't reallya headcanon either

>Teach got hurt by pre-ts Luffy
>Doflamingo completely destroyed post-ts Sanji in like 2 pages and tanked several attacks from Luffy without taking any serious damage
>Doflamingo was casually dodging attacks from post-ts Luffy while teach got blitzed by Magellan and Luffy

The only thing Teach had over him was destructive capacity but at that point he barely had nay control over the Quake fruit so that probably didn't give hi that much of a boost immediately.
It was also confirmed by the Gorosei that he was weaker than Marco too.
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>>134046659
shiliew is going to be that opponent. Maybe not the only one, but I'm sure Zoro will have a hard time defeating the big nosed fucker
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>>134046771
I wish people would understand that Teach getting hit and whining because it's so painful will always be a part of his character regardless of how strong he gets, and in no way reflects on his ability to tank hits.
>BB got hurt in this fight therefore he would have lost
BB will get hurt in every even remotely important fight, and he'll cry about it every time.
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>>134046659
Maybe a new sword for Zoro as well to replace his red one?
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>>134046659
I think it just comes down to types. Since Zoro is a Power type, he'd just attack relentlessly. Mihawk is pretty much the same except he has grace. And honestly, Zoro is the last guy who needs training right now.
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>>134040562
>So maybe Jack will be scared AF of Chopper because he thinks he is a giant mouse or some shit like that.

Jesus christ this is brilliant. It would be the silliest thing ever but i want this to happen.
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Jack is obviously Weevil's brother.
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I want her to stick a suppository up my ass
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>another filler chapter
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>>134046856
Nidai Kitetsu. I think it may have been the one that was shown when Brookntalked about Wano.
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>>134046918
I want to stick my dick in her furry vagina, if you catch my drift.
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>>134046918
This is her right?
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>>134046860
Not training per se, more like exposed to new techniques and states of mind. He's learnt mental techniques for blocking out pain, controlling his cutting ability and focusing his strength, but he hasn't learnt how to be completely lose all sense of self in the middle of a battlefield. I bet that's the key to Mihawk-tier swordsmanship; becoming SWORD
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>>134046918
Lolibunny > squirrelnurse > namibikini
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>>134046921
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>>134046918
Oda MUST know what he's doing. She wouldn't be making that knowing smirk through the 4th wall if he didn't; its almost like she's thinking, "yeah, you LIKE this don't you?"
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>>134047010
who the fuck cares?
I just want to see him CUTTING EXPLOSIONS.

(and scaring people to literal coma, monet style)
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>>134046957
>Zoro shows up at wano kuni
>They all recognize his sword
>Gets chased around the whole country like a harem protagonist.
If he doesn't take the oppurtunity to go wild, I'm gonna be so mad. Nami or Usopp are gonna stop him anyway, but still.
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Roranoa D.(racule) Mihawk
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>>134046918
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>>134046832
Are you literally insane? Holy shit good job disregarding everything i said.

Teach started crying when he got hit because it hurt him, it's that fucking easy you damn idiot. The only difference between Teach and all the other villains in the series is that he actually cries when he gets hurt, he fucking coughed blood he obviously was in pain.
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>>134045506

Sanjifags in a nutshell
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>this thread is infested with furshit holy fuck
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>>134046979
This one looks smaller and her hair is slightly different, why were Jack's men looking for her anyways?
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>>134047099
I'd hope not. Even Usopp knows how strong unhandicapped Zoro is.

>>134047092
That intimidation was really cool to see.
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So is Jack stronger than Doffy?
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>>134047010
Uhh, sure. Don't know where you're getting this shit from since Mihawk lookedmlike he was about to fall asleep 24/7 in Marineford. Hell, he was thinking about what a pain in the dick Luffy was going to be while facing Vista.

>>134047099
There's going to be Zoro wrecking fodder samurai, for sure. The one thing that's kinda eh about Zoro getting a new sword is him having to break his old one. Admittedly, Sandai is the crappiest one he has now but Mihawk said that with CoA, his swords should be unbreakable. So Zoro would have to face someone truly monstrous.
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>>134047228
We did not even see Jack fight yet
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>>134047099
If Ryuuma had a great-grandson, would you want him to be
a: A spoiled brat with passable swordsmanship who's been allowed to coast on his prestigious family name all his life

b: Serious and proud nippon samurai who will obsess about retrieving his grandfathers sword and honor from the moment he sees Zoro

c)a laid back genius who pretends to be a bit coawrdly until he sees a weakness in his opponents fighting style he can exploit.
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>>134047221
yep, and started the specialization haki fan theory.
that is sweet sweet masturbation.
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>>134047148
You don't seem to get anything either. His df amplifies the pain and he openly reacts to any injury, that's his quirk.

BB being a whiny kid doesn't mean anything, cause that's just what he is.

It's also hard to put a scale on all the characters. Doffy rarely fought anyone strong pre-ts for example. And if we take into account how Teach beat Ace, who wasn't even that low compared to at least the shichibukai, you can also say Teach might be even be able to beat doffy pre-ts
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>>134046131
>could defeat the 2nd division commander of a yonko
Not impressive. Commanders aren't that strong.
>plus a logia user
Literally so? Luffy defeated a Zoan and a Logia and a Paramecia pre-timeskip. Big whoop.
>plus a CoC user
How does beating someone with CoC prove anything? It doesn't make you super strong or anything
>plus the fucking son of the pirate king
Again not impressive. Ace wasn't that strong.

You're the retarded one.
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>>134047238
exactly he's always calm and serene in every scene we see him in, except when he laughed at Zoro for begging him to train him. Incidentally, so is Vista, they never seem as angry or wrathful as Zoro is when he fights
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>>134047285
triplets twins of buxom beauties.
hentai follows.
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>>134047285
None of those. I want him to be a cocky prick who uses his name to act like a big shot but in fact is still strong as all fuck and can back up his boasts.
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How badly did Doffy get BTFO?
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>>134047399
I think that just comes from being too strong. Just like how Shanks isn't usually angry or Rayleigh.
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>>134047414
Oda will make him a fat, skinny legged fuckface for shits and giggles
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>>134047459
How strong is your obsession? It has been MONTHS already you freaking psychopath
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>>134047148
You were implying Teach being weaker than Doffy was canon, and used Teach getting hurt by pre-ts Luffy as proof. As if Teach being hurt by anyone was ever a proof of anything relating to power level. I'm not insane, you're just an idiot.
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>>134047323
Imagine if Zoro had a manifestation of his killing intent.
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>>134047381
>Ace wasn't that strong.
He was even to Jimbei before he even joined whitebeard. He also had the highest bounty known to us. He wasn't a super power house like the admirals, but he had some feats going for him.
A shame most of the fights we saw had him losing.
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>>134047459
as badly as you need to get laid
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>>134047333
Reacting to an injury isn't a quirk you fucking retard.
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>>134047487
>Doffyfags shit up the thread for three years with

>DOFFY IS INVINCIBLE, BEST CHARACTER, LUFFYFAGS BTFO

>get mad when based luffyfriends do the same thing
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>>134047600
what about us poor souls who got mad at both because both are unbearable and retarded?
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>>134040194
do you think jack would get one shot by kuzan
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>>134047600
You do not do Luffyfags a favor, you actually make them look extremely autistic
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>>134047543
I must have a pretty good imagination.
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>>134047577
We're talking about One Piece where basically every character has some sort of quirk to him. Blackbeards is to be hit first and then roll on the ground crying.

Very similiar to pic related actually.
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>>134047644
Mammoth are extremely resistant to freezing temperatures
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>>134047657
Same shit with Sanji haters Powerlevelfags giving Zorofags a bad name.
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>>134047577
In BB's case, it really, truly is.
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>>134047552
Ace has his bounty from being the son of the PK.
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>>134046918
She will only stick a catether into your penis.
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>>134047672
wasn't there some talk about the next level asura?
like, 81 heads, 243 arms, and shit?
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>>134047761
That is fine too
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>>134047771
That would get to Bleach levels of superpowers, I don't want that in my One Piece.
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>>134047784
What if Chopper already hit that? This island probably turned into his own personal harem in the time he's been there.
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>>134047771
That would be retarded as all hell. It would probably be another Demon God figure.
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>>134047830
every year the number go up.
zorofags are like cocaine fueled weasels.
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>>134047911
Nigga, that wasn't a Zorofag. That was a dumbass.
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>>134041108
It's probably a BLACK LEG Sanji joke.
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Ok Everyone! It's that time of the thread! Time for Sanji Hate!

I am so happy that Oda killed off Sanji. He was the worst character in all of One Piece. He never did anything useful and would just whiteknight females all day. He was a beta orbiter. One Piece has improved since his removal. He couldn't even kick down a door on Punk Hazard. All he's done since the timeskip is nosebleed on Mermaids.

Oda really made a good decision. Sanji and Sanjifags EPIC BTFO
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>>134044684
I fucking love how Luffy answers every den den mushi by telling them he'll be king of the pirates. Cracks me up every time.
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>>134047911
Speaking of coke, Jack and his crew seem to run on it. They're unreasonable, paranoid, violent and erratic
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>>134048031
Penis
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>>134047990
true scotsman fallacy.
every fagdom is cancerous.
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>>134047692
oh

then maybe he'd 1-shot drake
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>>134048031
nah, fuck off m8
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>>134048069
just like a real live crew of pirates!
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Anime movie called "The Big Three vs ISIS" when?
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>>134044810
because once he shoots it out its just normal magma and the only reason it doesnt hurt him is because he still has the ability to become magma

its like with caesar, when he had the seastone on it didnt instantly destroy all of the weapons he created using his gas (or when ace fought blackbeard i think the buildings were still on fire, not that it really matters though)
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Jesus Christ my Deeek
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>>134040194
Why? All he did was raze a country.
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Did Sanji rape Nami and Robin while they were asleep?
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>>134045494
Ace: dead
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>>134048511
Sanji is a gentleman not a savage.
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>>134048507
Did you forget he attacked a marine convoy while knowing Tsuru, Sengoku and Fujitora were present?
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>>134048511
Doujins say yes, so that means its canon.
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>>134040445
I'd say it's also stupid to instantly hype a new character to be unbeatable, which is done with literally every new character.
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>>134048511
Please. He's spill all his spaghetti if he even saw the hint of a nipple.
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>>134048511
no, but Momo did
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>>134047381
>Ace wasn't that strong.
>He was strong enough the MC admited that he couldn't beat him
You did say that pre-timeskip luffy could beat him,so your argument is retarded.Stop embarrasing yourself.
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>>134048031
But Brook is the worst character in OP.
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Is this the most underwhelming and disappointing character reveal is the series?

Why even hype him and then job him against an over-sized mink?

This is supposed to be the strongest creature in the world's right hand man.
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>>134048689
you are as retarded as many other faggots before you, just stop
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>>134040194
Luffy is too. He sacked Dressrosa and tried to fight an admiral afterwards.
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>>134048726

How am i retarded? please elaborate, young miss.
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>>134048689
Jack beat that dogs ass and still had enough juice to attack a marine convoy with Tsura, Sengoku and Fujitora afterwards and sink 2 of their ships
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>>134042990
>Ace
>being anything more than mid-tier in the New World
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Where the fuck is Raizou
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>>134045494
>Queen : hopefully fit sabertooth girl
AYLA STRONG
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