Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1310

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Work hard, have fun, no drama.

>おしっこする

Jesus

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>>134021338
You're a faggot.

My experience with Silverio Vendetta has really shown me that it doesn't matter what the fuck you read, as long as you switch up genres. Like seriously, the vocab is a bit harder than I'm used to but ultimately it's no big deal. If all you do is play moege or "easy" games that's pretty much fine as far as I can tell. You don't need to target "hard" games, really. Just be sure to mix it up with sci-fi and fantasy settings, or really any non-school setting, in order to not develop a SOL vocab bubble.

Also, it's still important to read real-life news articles, I think. Simply because it speeds up the process of picking up economic vocab considerably.

>>134021383
>なめあいっこ sixtynine

I'm a NEET and generally spend 99% of the year inside my house. The one night I like to go out is Thanksgiving night for Black Friday sales, which is pretty weird. Unfortunately, there wasn't a single deal I was interested in, so I am not going out. Kind of depressing.

>>134021535
What I was trying to say here is:
If you image all the vocab in Japanese as 20,000 words in a giant pool, every single work written in Japan equally accesses these 20,000 words. Every "easy" works has (potentially) the 20,000 words of Japanese. As long as you read enough of it you will really eventually accumulate all 20,000 words. It's not like "easy" stuff only access 10,000 and you need to read "hard" works to access the other 10,000. All 20,000 is in both "easy" stuff and "hard" stuff. It's just that "hard" stuff accesses more uncommon words at a much a higher percentage. If 厭う has a 1% chance of appearing in an easy work it has a 10% chance of appearing in a hard work. Either way, it's fine to just read easy stuff, in the end.
"This is obvious", some of you say. To which I reply, I know, I just wanted to type this anyway. This is mainly relevant become it comes to pass that you can read easy stuff 10x faster than hard stuff. At that point it'd be better to read hard stuff but if you wanna keep reading easy stuff it won't make a huge difference if you switch up genres and also supplement yourself with political and economic news.

>>134021759
Going out is pretty depressing, yes, which is why I haven't left the house in almost three years.

How many Anki cards until I'm fluent?

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What Kanji is this?

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>>134021710
それって女同士っぽいとおもうよ。ふつうのは、あい、を抜いた四文字じゃないかなあとおもうよ。おねえちゃん

>>134021962
Looks like 続 from context alone

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>>134021793
20,000 isn't really much anyway. People need to stop seeing it as some overwhelming stack.

>>134022125
It's a lot.

>>134022125
It's less once you look at it in magnitudes.

Make lines though and it'll be silly.

>>134021793
To begin with, an author using a wide range of vocabulary might make reading his writing somewhat tedious, but not necessarily harder to understand. Sure sometimes people here aver things like "Using a texthooker does not constitute "real" reading". By extension that means using a dictionary doesn't constitute "real" reading. However, I'm sure everyone here can remember authors even in their native language which, if you aspire to understand them properly, will necessitate grabbing a dictionary every other page, perhaps every other sentence even. It's a stupid sentiment. Of course some types of fiction just don't lend themselves to being read slowly, so you probably won't enjoy them unless you read at a decent pace.

>>134022179
I put "hard" in quotes to reflect that. Most people agree that Dies Irae is harder than Hanahira, and then poof, that descends into an internal division between "easy" and "hard" content.

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Anyone watching Uta2? Is this mostly what Kansai-ben sounds like? Or are other parts of her speech that are just character-specific speech quirks?

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あと、これは日本では、まったくlewdな意味を含まないよ

>流しっこ
風呂で背中を洗い合うこと

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>>134022144
It's not. Just look at how pathetic your core 6k looks too. I can't believe that some people are crying over this.

>>134022313
Anything you see in "character" anime like Uta2 is going to be so diluted that it's character traits instead of stereotypes.

>>134022325
Make that one row and then see how funny you are.

>>134022325
It's a lot

>>134022313
Watch some gaki no tsukai if you want to hear kansai-ben

>>134021383
What?

>>134022539
みんなでおしっこしよう

>>134022381
It's a collection of rows already. I don't see why're being so difficult.

>>134022736
Because logarithmic scales are extremely deceptive when we measure things based on their dimensions and then think of that logarithmically. You're doing a logarithm in a logarithm.

One row.

>>134022836
That's just your laziness talking and trying to find a way to make things seem more difficult than they actually are.

>>134022888
I care not for difficulty, just showing things how they are.

>>134022888
Not difficult. Just size. 20,000 is a lot of words. That's all there is to say on the matter.

>>134022909
That's not really much. All you've gotta do is learn 50 cards every hour, which is pretty easy. That's more than a minute for every new card, so you could just spend 50 minutes on new cards and the rest of the 10 minutes on reviews and other stuff, and then you just keep this pace all day, and then within the month, you'll have learned 36,000 words. That'll make you native level. There's really no excuse to not knowing Japanese. Anyone could do it in a month if you really wanted to.

>>134023014
It doesn't matter how long it takes to learn them. 20,000 is a lot.

>>134023086
Are you even reading his posts? If so, why do you keep responding?

>>134023456
He's pretty much shifting the goal posts, to use the phrase, so I reply firmly keeping them in place. I do read each post, think "that's not the point", and then re-state the claim he original denied (>>134022125). 20,000 words is a lot. Are they hard to learn? Do they take long to learn? I don't care, that's not the topic at hand. 20,000 is a lot. End of story.

>>134023570
It clearly isn't a lot if you can effortlessly fit it inside a small envelope.

>>134023668
20,000 is a lot of words.

>>134023699
That's the pussy talking again.

>>134023668
Words aren't physical objects so assigning them a physical space is meaningless. No, printing them out in fine print doesn't count.

20,000 shitposts is clearly not a lot. Reach for 40,000 or go home.

NIGGERS CAN'T LEARN ２0,000 WORDS SO WHY SHOULD I？

Oh my gosh goys, 20,000 is such huge number, It's like a 20 multiplied by a 2 and a 5 and a 5 and a 2 and a 2 and a 5. That's like BIG!

WOW HOLY MOLY NUMBERS CAN BE BIG. HOW DO YOU EVEN COunt THAT HIGH? I WANT TO LEARN THAT MANT VOCAB WORDS WHEN I GROW UP BIG AND STRONG

>>134023844
Oh my gosh goys, googol is such huge number, It's like a hundred tens, that's like BIG!

HEY PEOPEL, I JUST LEARNED A JAPANESE KANJI IT'S　㌫ I"VE NEVER SEEN A KANJI LIKE IT BEFORE?

I don't even know who to report anymore

>>134023809
But anon you're the nigger

>>134023898
>>134023898
Yeah, but you can't really touch a googol. That's like infinity divided by a little bit. But when you're talking about 20,000, then you're touching stuff. Like, that's a number could touch with my hands. And then, you've gotta think that you've gotta put all those things in your head. That's just, like a lot. I can't even imagine it even though it's a number that physically is true. Like, if you make a right triangle with a hypotenuse of googol, the other two sides just don't exist (and neither does the hypotenuse) but when you talk about 20,000, then it's real, even if it's just really massive. This kind of stuff is really mind blowing I've gotta admit.

>>134024012
>That's like infinity divided by a little bit
Not even close. You can see gogol. Just put a hundred zeroes on a piece of paper. Totally small, right?

>>134024012
When I hold a baseball I'm holding a googol of atoms in my hand.

>>134024052
No, you're putting a hundred infinity signs behind a 1. This is a massive super-real number, that I doubt any of us here could even ever really grasp because we just lack the mathematical facilities to understand that kind of stuff.

>>134024052

Yeah, that's only one followed by a hundred zeroes. How many zeroes? 100. 100 is a three-digit number. So if you can count to 3, you can count to a googol. Therefore you can learn a googol words easily if you can learn three words. You can learn three words in about 5 minutes. And 20,000 is a hell of a lot less than a googol therefore you can learn 20,000 words in less than 5 minutes. Anyone can learn Japanese in less than 5 minutes if they really wanted to.

>>134024174
This.

>>134024086
Well, I understand how quantum mechanics allows for stuff like that, but when simplify the world down to Newtonian mechanics, then atoms can't really exist in huge amounts like that, because the universe would collapse in on itself. Just thinnk about it. A googol is HUUUGE. We can't even grasp how to comprehend that number it's so huge, but when you talk about the world, that's when things would start to fall apart, because with that many atoms being held in your hand you would have to be like a god with infinite power, but we're not gods, not to mention, the baseball bat itself would spontaneously convulse into a black hole, because that many atoms would be stronger than light. So yeah, I understand how quantum mechanics can make super state atoms violate certain things, but when you really think about it anyways, those atoms can't be superstates since they can only be in one state, so quantum mechanics is just correcting for what we cannot measure, which why it seems like there can be a googol of atoms, but in reality there aren't that many

Anyways, we should stay on Japanese.

>>134024174
I don't think you really understand what a Gogol is. It's really advanced math when you get to the thick of it.

>>134024300
>because the universe would collapse in on itself
stopped reading there

>>134024337
10^100

>>134024337
yeah cuz like three tens is so advanced wow

>>134024377
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Not as easy as you might think.

Can you type a smalll て/つ without typing out "tte" or "ttsu"?

>>134024469
HOW DID YOU DO THAT, WHY ARE THERE SO MANY NUMBERS

I CAN'T HANDLE THIS

>>134024496
that or xte or lte

>>134024496
ltu

I hate you all.

>>134024344
Obviously the universe would still exist, but all of matter would collapse into a black hole, unless of course antimatter would like cause an explosion pushing all of matter out, just for the process to repeat again, I guess that that could be feasible, but then we would have to operating at an incredibly fast rate where we interact with the word like sonic jet fires do, but faster, because the convolutions of matter into and out of the black hole form would be imperceptible to us, because obviously right now we don't know of such a thing and also cannot measure black holes since we cannot see them.

>>134024585
*yawn*

Is imabi any good for picking up grammar, or should I just stick with Genki/The Manga Way/Tae Kim?

>>134024629
I can't recommend it.

>>134024503
You may need to come up with a mnemonic to get it down but just remember to never give up.

>>134024540
>>134024555
ltu works but not lte or xte.

>>134024749
That's because there's no little te

>>134024768
I have a headache now from how hard I smacked my head.

Do RTK or don't do RTK?

>>134025007
Try it yourself and come to your own conclusions.

>>134024843
ぁぃぅぇぉっゃゅょ
I think these are all there are

>>134025092
Got it.

>強風注意報
45 MOTHERFUCKING STROKES JUST TO SAY "STORM WARNING"
YOU CAN DO IT IN 3 STROKES IN ANY LANGUAGE AND WRITING SYSTEM THAT MAKES SENSE
KANJI IS BULLSHIT

>>134025723
The japs would be able of writing almost anything in 1 to 5 strokes if they followed the white man's way.
Imagine how much time they'd save, it would be like having a new life to live.

>>134026078
Can't read.

>>134026231
"try me"

>>134026342
arigato gomen

>>134026078
Can partially read.
Would need to look up a few words.
Feels good man.

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>>134026520
>Would need to look up a few words.
That's why I switched it from pic related (after yes 9.2 months of progress). Instead of staring at LOGH with a vagulely blank stare and chipping at sentences, I read it fluidly while easily identifying and looking up unknown words. I still am not fluent, and still don't read it "like water", but it's now a challenge (try me) as opposed to simply a stare.

Why are you guys fucking creepy? Stop learning inferior language.

>>134026624
Don't worry it's just to read comic porn
I don't plan on actually using the language

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>>134025723
Once you have written like 20000 or so you get a hang of it and can write at the same speed as you would writing with roman characters

私、違い糸にいますか？

>>134026683
I write "kyoufucyuihou" in 6 seconds.
Let's see anyone doing the same with 強風注意報.

>>134026801
Missing 2 u's there

Just saw 矜持 again, was only a couple weeks since last time I think

>Study for a month
>Nothing to show for it

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>>134026989
Where did you see it, afaik the correct term is 誇り

>>134027064
>correct
wut? It's just a word. It's used when it's correct
>>134027051
You should have kana down by now...

Japanese is slower to write and (much) faster to read.
A text is written once and read thousands of times.
Therefore...

>>134026968
I wrote "kyoufuuchuuihou" this time, still 7 seconds. It's the same thing.
I could probably do it 1 or 2 seconds faster if it was a word I use often, while writing this I have to actually think about what comes next.

>>134027138
>Japanese is (much) faster to read.
source?

>>134027138
>(much)
It's not

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Enyoing the endless loop?

そんな格安ピザ屋が日に日に増えてデブ一直線な今日このごろであるが、特に私（筆者）が感動したのは、1枚380円から本格窯焼きナポリピッツァが食べられる『sempre pizza（センプレピッツァ）』のピザである。


Does デブ here mean debut? Is he saying that shops like this have been popping up alot?

>>134027441
Try hovering over it with rikai

>>134027476
all i'm getting is "fat", which dosent make sense in this context.

rikaichan has failed me before (in definitions), but then again i've failed myself often too (in parsing the grammar).

Hence why I am consulting you guys.

>>134027441
Debut should be デビュー , maybe that's a weird way to say it or an error, fuck if I know

>>134027579
I googled "デブ一直線" and got tons of results

>>134027441
>デブ一直線な今日このごろであるが
On a straight line to getting fat at this time

Bit a weird one to translate but he is saying he is getting fat because of all the cheap pizza

>>134027677
Thank you!

描
猫

Fuck kanji

>>134028201
Do RTK and never have that problem again.

>>134028201
it only gets worse my friend

>>134028201
Left side of the cat one looks like a cat paw, other one has the hand radical. Not hard at all.

What's a good way to punish oneself for not doing anki reps consistently? Aside from the reps themselves, of course. I'm terrible in my willpower and probably can't learn Japanese, but I'll still try.

>>134028232
>Do RTK and learn about dog tails and walking sticks for a month, fuck pronunciations

>>134028628
Pierce your dick with safety pins for each day you don't do them all. That's the kind of devotion it takes.

>>134028662
>hurrf durrf durr hurr

>>134028628
You're already punishing yourself by not doing them. You'll never read porn comics.

>>134022322
>流しっこ
>しっこ
l-lewd

>>134028201
I remembered it as "You need talent to draw" and cat is just the beast radical.

>>134028628
Rub your cock with a sandpaper sandwich

>刀
>力
I know they're quite different, but it's still frustrating.

So RTK is just learning a keyword to relate to the kanji and writing it out?

Doesn't sound too bad.

Is there a way to quickly make a reversed copy of every card in a deck?

>>134028973
Yes.

about hour many hours a day did you put into studying?
Officially going to start tomorrow, 1am right now

>>134028973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnbKwHEQ1mA

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>>134029009
>Officially going to start tomorrow

>>134028846
>Doesn't sound too bad.
Until you realise you don't actually know how to read them

>>134029009
If watching anime counts as studying, ~6-8 hours

>>134029055
But you can pick that up from vocab intuitively can't you?

>>134029090
That's all it really takes to learn the language.
You just watch lots of anime and your brain picks it up. Nothing else required unless you want to be able to write.

>>134029090
Or you could just do vocab in the first place. RTK is a useless middleman.

>>134028846
You use keyword and mnemonics to remember the components and then write the character out. So it's pretty great if you want to learn to write.

>>134029131
No, it is not.

What PS2 games in Japanese would you recommend?

>>134029147
You don't need to write kanji by hand you fuckin' gaijin bitch.

>>134029136
Yeah but there are some radicals and kanji that have no meaning at all though. Does RTK try to force or create meanings for those?

>>134029160
That Berserk game looks cool.

>>134029163
That's your subjective opinion, yes.

What app do you use for reading LNs in android?

I'm using Moon+ Reader at the moment, but it doesn't seem capable of supporting dictionary lookups for languages that don't separate words by spaces like Japanese.

>>134029185
I saw that. Looked really cool to be quite honest with you family, but I think the Kanji might be a bit too out there.

悪いね

>>134029179
Yes, there are a some arbitrary keywords.

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>tfw no bf to watch Japanese tv with and cuddle to learn Japanese


I mostly just watch WW2 documentaries for my compelling content.

>>134029301
Why not just skip them then?

You're not going to get anything from RTK you wouldn't get by looking up a kanji on Jisho or something.

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>>134029309
Thankfully I'm no longer susceptible to desires of the flesh

>>134029309
Are you Kiri by any chance?

>>134029309
>>134029448
Definitely not きれい

Sorry for bully

>>134029160
https://vndb.org/v5692

Very very easy to read.

>playing game for studying Japanese
Are you alright? It's like a Korean saying "I will play Starcraft(or Fallout, or whatever) for learning English!"
I don't know you guys are trolling or just being retarded.

>>134029448
Kiri?

Kirei like that one anon said?
But no im manly as fuck looking.

>>134029421
Heh heh 2d>3d right boys?
R right?

Im getting a maki tattoo at some point. She's tfe reason I study Japanese.

>>134029693
>getting tattoo
>getting Japanese bf
pick one and only one

>>134029716
Japanese girls like that shit also. I am a gaijin so they would understand.

>>134029689
You need to work on your ruse m8

ドタキャン

>>134029763
>Japanese girls like that shit also. I am a gaijin so they would understand.
We don't though. Even if you're gaijin, we hate tattoo for impulse.

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>>134029809

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>>134029763
>not getting into onsen never ever

>tfw you didn't realize how stupid you were until you tried to learn Japanese.

>>134029869
This desu

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>>134029836
Study hard Japanese and talk with actual Japanese who is not Korean or Chinese pretend to be Japanese about tattoo, just do it and notice Japan is not the land for bakagaijin like you.

耳鼻科 (otorhinology)

Suspended so hard my reporting hand (right, fyi) gained a life of its own, clicking my mouse rapidly for 3 hours straight with such a tenacity it became clear arthiritis was the least of my worries, so clear was it that I could lose MY ENTIRE HAND to this bizarre possession.

>>134029914
Hehe I think you should go to bed

>>134029615
ありがと

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>>134029809
>we don't
>implying you're a native Japanese girl

Yeah ok buddy. Everyone I know who has tattoos has never said its an issue. People love tattoos they just aren't cool on the internet.

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JLPT virgin here.

The JLPT might be harder than I thought. A passing mark would be getting a little over 50% score but I realized the points are scaled for difficulty. About how many points are each question worth?

I'm thinking that if 1 point is the lowest a question can be scaled down to I would just need to answer at least 19 questions each section and I would have enough points to pass each section. How correct is my logic?

>>134029992
Just go with the flow bro

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>>134029992
Good luck

>>134029931
>>134029964
If you don't understand our culture, don't come to Japan. You can't get job if you have tattoo in Japan. I hope you guys visit here>>>/int/51300192
and listen to what actual Japanese think. We don't say actual opinion in front of people have not known so much. Learn 本音と建前 before language itself.

>>134029992
>JLPT must be easy if you only need 50% to pass

I laugh every time some idiot in these threads says that.

>>134030047
You're drunk go to bed and stop posting please

>>134030061
>JLPT must be easy
he literally says in his post
>The JLPT might be harder than I thought.
I'm afraid you're the idiot here anon

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>>134030047
Im already in that thread lol.
Im not planning on living there ever just visiting to get some sweet vagina and boipussy. Maybe even find my future wife.

>>134030117
Then say the same thing in that thread.

>さて、この前の手紙にあった質問に答えましょう。　もし結婚しないなら、それは良いことです。　 2しかし、普通の場合、結婚するのが一番良いでしょう。

What the hell is this nonsense? It's supposed to be:
>Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

>If (you) don't marry, that is good. However, the normal case is that marrying is the most good.
How is that anywhere near the lesson of "If sex is your aim, you should be married."? How liberal are Japanese translations of the Bible?

>>134030047
Thank you for promoting shitposting. This is on you. >>>/int/51314731

>>134030117
You're the American guy who was denied by Japanese women because you asked their Facebook account? Then I understand what's your problem.

>>134030248
Someone here is in Singapore? They have internet there?

How does one make an easy and catchy translation of this: 大玉転がし?

It's those big ball rolling competitions you find in sports festivals.

>>134030093
Yes, I realize that. I can read. But I see people saying it here all the time and it makes me laugh. I hope he realized his mistake before it was too late.

>>134030305
Why in the fuck would someone in Singapore not have internet?

>>134030332
It has poor in the name, how could they afford PCs?

I'm having a little trouble with 先. Jisho seems to give contradicting definitions
>previous; prior; former; some time ago; preceding
>the future; hereafter
So it's both the future and the past? Thanks, Japan.

This thread is full of morons. Absolute idiots. I realize now that the only way to learn japanese is to get the fuck out of here. Goodbye. You really can't learn japanese.

>>134030285
Naw that wasnt me

>>134030352
>What lay before us
>That street from before
Thanks, English.

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>>134030347

>>134030396
Not sarcastically, I genuinely love these responses. Thank you. They make me feel better about learning Japanese.

>>134030388
>I realize now that the only way to learn japanese is to get the fuck out of here.
The only way to learn Japanese is to read and listen a lot. It doesn't matter if you read the posts here or not. You baby.

>>134030437
If you want to feel even better, when you accumulate a nice vocab of 6,000-8,000 and you're most running into synonyms of words you already know, go read a college level English book and count the number of poetic words you have to look up. It made me feel a lot better about poor vocab.

>>134030305
I have gigabit internet you flaming homosexual

>>134030388
You sound like a whiny bitch not going to lie.

>>134030506
I live in deep siberia and have faster and cheaper internet than lots of americans and canadians. Was really surprised about that desu senpai.

>>134030588
That's because their ISPs are corrupt as all hell and hold an infernal monopoly over fiber internet. It's a shame really.

>>134030332
Singapore is poor dictatorship shithole.

>>134029615
sheeit i didn't know there was a ps2 game

>>134030723
No it fucking isn't you retard.

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>>134030388
You're most clever person in this thread.

t: Japanese person from /int/

>>134030762
Oh okay then.

>>134030790
Please tell me how you define poor.

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So I'm going through google translate for the Japanese word for "heroine" and I get hiroin. I was wondering which word you think I should use for a very brave but possibly villainous hero who is blind to see they're fight is possibly misguided.

ヒロイン heroine or 主人公 hero, main character, protagonist, heroine, head of household or 烈女 heroine and 勇婦 heroine, brave woman Thanks in advance! :)

>>134030804
Do you live in Singapore?

先輩 is generally written as せんぱい, right? Or is it not one of those words? Also, is there a list which I can reference to note which words are generally written in hiragana as opposed to kanji? I briefly searched for one but couldn't find anything.

>>134030763
Thanks to this thread I can read your country's shitty comic porn so clearly you are both wrong.

>>134030762
>controlled by one deified chink family
>not dictatorship
even north koreans would say kim jong un is not a dictator.

>>134030823
Do you define poor with a completely unrelated question?

>>134030831
jisho has that feature, no idea how accurate it is.

>>134030879
Singapoor detected.

>>134030924
So you're just a moronic shitposter. Got it.

This thread is now full of flaming faggots don't respect others' culture and retarded chinks.

>>134030934
And you're from Singapoor. Stay mad.

>>134030983
>now
I have bad news for you, friend.

>>134030762
Wait, are you asserting that it's not poor, or that it's not a dictatorship?

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So this is typical poster in /a/?

>>134031061
lel

>>134031193
This isn't /a/, you're in /djt/ now. /a/ is garbage unrelated to this place

>>134030983
>>134031193
>/a/ is full of chinks
I've known it.

>>134031213
/djt/ is pretty great most of the time.

You come in all like ただいま

and everyone's just like おかえり

and we all get along.

But sometimes it's not like that and you just have to wonder why they'd be so angry on the internet.

>>134031277
nigger

>>134031277
coon

>>134029992
>How correct is my logic?

They don't publish that. You only get an overall score for each section, but they don't tell you how many / which questions you got right or wrong.

>>134031320
>>134031322

あなた大好き<3

>>134031277
porch monkey

>>134029992
http://www.jlpt.jp/e/about/pdf/scaledscore_e.pdf

>>134031426
>being faggot is allowed
that's why /djt/ is shithole all the time

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あたしとあなたは違う
あなたとあたしは違う

違うけど、同じもの。

つまんねー

>>134031804
I don't get it

>>134031851
He is being flaming faggot as always.

Got my reps done by 3pm instead of 5am like yesterday. Today is a good day.

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>>134031947
Anon if I email you some of my reps can you do them for me? :3

妹
いもうと
は歌
うた
が上手
じょうず
です。

Does anyone here use WaniKani for their kanji research? I'm wondering if I should buy a subscription for it since people at my languange school have been talking about it.

Is 行き more commonly read as ゆき or いき? I think it's いき, but I'm not sure.

>>134032091
Jisho has it listed as "usually ゆき"

>152 reviews
Dunce life.

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>>134031804
幼女クソ
姉はよりまし
自殺しろ

its weird after like 4 days of not being able to remember shit, today i'm just rolling through them, anki really works, thinking of increasing new words now

>>134032302
Gibe tips.

>5am
>Just finished my reps
Yay.
おやすみなさい、・ｄｊｔ・

>>134032323
nice numerical values

>>134032365
Hey you're like me from yesterday, I mean today

>>134032295
>幼女クソ

that's 4

>>134032323
study it more until you're satisfied with your current flashcards

>>134032295
テメよくも
牛がすきかな？
出て行けよ

>>134032406
>ようじょくそ
Doesn't よ and う count as separate? I know that じょ count as one though

このスレって沙羅いるのか？

>>134032416
I'd be doing anki all day. My retention rate is very low.

>>134032044
No

>>134032469
:(

>>134032469
me too, just keep doing it

>>134032469
Supplement anki with reading.

>>134032469
How many new cards do you add per day? I bet you're trying to add too much. Don't stress.

>>134032465
日本人じゃなきゃ分からんだろうな、ちゃんと五七五になってるかなんて
実際には八八八なんだけど、ここまで理解してる外人はいないだろうし

>>134032437
>>134032295
もっと言うとどっちも俳句になってない

maybe it says in the read me but I don't remember, whats good beginner level reading material

>>134032554
I'm only doing 20. My memory is just bad and all I read is Tae Kim.

>>134032599
ガ
イ
ド
を
読
ん
で

>>134032599
http://nocozazal.co.nf/readinglist.html

>>134032632
drop that down to 10 new cards, you'll see a massive improvement

>>134032671
But then I'll get meme'd on.

>>134032662
cool, thanks

>>134032671
Setting it any lower than 20 is effectively admitting that you can't learn Japanese

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>>134032695
if you're not gonna try and learn japanese then fuck off, you're already a meme

>>134032710
Is anyone disputing this?
kill yourself

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>>134032808

>>134032808
False flagging bullshit. Also enjoy your ban.

>>134032808
>tfw I meet all requirements besides facial hair.
Can I stay?

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>>134032808
昔それは本当だったかもしれない、でも今日は大部分の/a/使いは普通なリア充だ。

>>134032926
嘘つけ
このシンガポール人もリア充なん？>>134031193

>>134032808
>1.
Don't tell us about it.
>4.
Same as 1.
>7.
Pretty much. Women ruin males spaces and the internet outside of normalfag social media corporate data collecting services are fundamentally male spaces.

The rest are pretty much either irrelevant or only relevant to Americlaps. Obviously it was written by some butthurt normalfag, though.

>>134032858
Not even a completely green hotpocketeer would ban someone for that.

>>134033034
It's offtopic therefore it deserves a ban

>>134033034
Do you actually think a normalfag would get butthurt over autistic faggots like you? lol

>>134033054
That isn't how it works newfag.

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>>134032959
>シンガポール人
>どれでもアジア人
>人間

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Gaijin(foreigner)is so arrogant.

You foreigners can work at Japan, study and play．
but it's not your rights．
this is　japan,our country.
not yours．
you are not a member of our society.

It's special special favor from us.
Please dont misunderstand it.
All foreigners must think about the importance of showing respect & gratitude for japan．
Surprisingly many foreigners have a mistaken sense of superiority that can push japanese people．
because we Japanese spoilt the foreigner too much.
we'll be only scoffed at by them．
Now,we need to say clearly to silly foreigners．
Remember your place gaijin!
thankyou

>>134032959
Yeah I'm a normalfag learning Japanese while my girlfriend sucks me off. Seriously have you ever gotten a blowjob while reading Muramasa? Shit is cash!

>>134033152
Japan should isolate themselves before they get "culturally enriched", honestly.

>>134033159
I'm dying here

>>134033174
Japan is practically heaven and I want it to stay that way,
I hope I go to heaven

>>134033104
>implying Japanese are not Asian
>implying Japanese are not human
Are you fucking idiot or do you think it is funny?

>>134033152
I thought this guy (Sakurai Makoto, who is the leader of far-right wing organization) was wrong and I thought he was shame of Japan, but after I have read /a/ posts. I started to think he was right and I was just too much brainwashed by liberal media. Fuck gaijins, they all should be deported back soon.

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でもあなたはこういった

あなたはあたしと違う
あたしはあなたと違う

同じだけど、違うもの。

>>134033239
麻薬やめて下さい

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>>134033239
ねえねえ妹ちゃん、あなたの見解でロリは他のロリを愛することはできますか

>>134033214
自殺してください～

>>134033174
It's impossible to avoid the way the worlds going, we will see Japan get overrun with SJWs and niggers in our lifetime

>>134032808

>not getting the early classes out of the way at the cheaper college
>not practicing hygiene
>letting your body rot

Also, shitting on having a social life and sex life always struck me as particularly stupid. People who do this basically always place a large amount of emphasis on knowing your shit... until it comes to a topic where they're uncomfortable outside of their autistic hugbox of ignorance, then they actively hate people who haven't joined them in cowering in their little hole and have actually seen things with their own eyes, especially if said person's findings don't match the world view of the poorly adjusted autists. Bonus points when (not if; this is pretty much a free space) they treat all counter-data as either being revisionist or simply dismiss it without any sort of substantial argument. Another bonus when (this is another free space) they become angry specifically towards similar hugbox behavior from other people (feminists, for the most common example).

It's nothing short of full blown hypocrisy.

>>134033326
自演すんなよカス

>>134033329
We won't allow it. The situation of today's Europe is European governments' fault. Japan's African immigrants are less than Europe in 60s'.

>>134033433
If the trends are pointing towards bending over and taking the third world in the ass then Japan would probably eventually start stepping in line and doing the same though, as much as I'd like to think they'd stand strong, it's hard to have your own way of doing shit in todays times

>>134033611
Even if it is starting, it will take more than 50 years to become same situation as Europe. One of the biggest reason Europe couldn't stop mass immigrants is they gave politics to females. We won't take this wrong choice in the first place.

>>134033329
>>134033611

We really need to band together, take to the streets, and blow the smoke away from the far left narrative before it spirals out of control even more. As people who live in the communities where said narrative springs from, only we have the power to stop it.

Much like the batshit right, this is more of a bipartisan issue than either side wants to realize. The bigotry and doublethink that lies at the core of it contradicts what the left claims to represent (and there are many left wingers who know it), and obviously the right tends to favor the interests of the people that bigotry is aimed at. The ad hominem, double standards, fallacious reasoning, and blatant disregard for the well being of anyone but themselves also doesn't change whether their opponent is a right winger or a left winger. The number of people against it actually isn't small (look at how gamergate exploded; also, at what percentage claimed to be socially liberal), but the problem is that people are scared to go out with their face uncovered and publicly declare that they, [real name, not some handle], are an enemy to an alliance of movements that has so many allies in the news media and among politicians, and that they aim to ruin them.

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>>134033275
どういういみなのん？

we meet again, /djt/

>move to South Korea
>have no internet in my apartment for a month because you need some fucking immigration card that takes weeks to get in order to get internet hooked up
>study japanese like a hermit
>accomplished a fuck ton more than when I was shitposting on here all day

Not sure if I should come back ;_;

>>134033826
そんな簡単な文章も理解できないのか？ｗ
Wow, you can't be this stupid.

>>134033867

>move to new house
>two weeks without internet
>spend almost literally all day, every day going through Flyable Heart
>this period represented a massive jump in my ability to comprehend Japanese; things were much less foggy after the two weeks were over, and my vocabulary had grown a fair amount

The combination of the internet and poor discipline is the worst enemy that getting shit done could possible ask for.

>>134033867
>want to become Japanese
>go to Korea to study/work
Why I have heard this story so many times?
It's like saying going to live in Algeria to get French citizenship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJp9nKaO7c4
>years and years in prison for smuggling a puny 400 grams of weed
Why is Japan so retarded? At least deport the gaijins if you're gonna be that retarded to save the cost of housing and feeding them for all those years.

>>134034054
Who the fuck wants or claimed to want to become Japanese

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>>134033953
苛めは
め！

>>134034057
Japans drug polices make me sad, definitely the worst thing about the country

>>134034077
A lot of weeaboos. I think it sounds retarded idea even for Japanese people lol.

>>134034054
I don't want to be Japanese but I'd like to live there.

ESL in Japan is dead and finding a non-ESL job while living overseas is extremely difficult. On the other hand, finding a high-paying paying ESL job with benefits in South Korea is pretty easy. It's a 2-3 hour flight away and in the same time zone as well.

>>134034104
Why can't you stop being faggot? Just kill yourself, you creep.

>>134034121
Good, stupid druggies and potheads don't have place in any good society.

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>>134034121
>Missing the joke
>Defending druggies
400 grams is a shitton, he deserves to rot, was just sad Japan has to waste cash on his ass. Sad they can just give him a bullet.

>>134034104
>>134033953
There are far better ways to bully imoutos you two, e.g. pic related.

>>134034169
Neither do NEETs anon

>>134034169
But stumbling around completely trashed from alcohol is ok, right?

>>134034181
>*can't just
just fuck my post up.

>>134034134
No Japanese would take you serious if you're from Korea. Everyone will just smile you when they hear that you're from Korea, but they will think like "well, he doesn't know the difference between Japan and Korea... How stupid gaijin!" in their mind.

>>134034194

Drunk salarymen actually contribute to society. Stoner faggots are stoners 24/7.

>>134034169
>>134034181
There's nothing wrong with drug use unless you choose to exclusively focus on the extreme cases and act like that represents the matter as a whole

>>134034191
I agree.

>>134034194
>you think this
>so surely you must think that completely unrelated thing, which also goes against the logic you previously used
Typical pothead, just kill yourself please.

>>134034153
What? That was the first post I made in this thread. Who did you think I was?

>>134034220
>Implyings drugs aren't degeneracy, the kind Japan doesn't need
Get out.

>>134034213
They won't take me seriously if I go in speaking fluent Japanese? ok

>>134034223
Oh, sorry, I forgot this thread is the den of flaming faggots. Thanks for confirming it!

>start anki session
>again
>again
>again
>again
>again
>check correct ratio so far (obviously will go up as I start getting things right)
>34%

This session is going to fucking suck.

>>134034257
I'm at 37. Get rekt.

>>134034246
>They won't take me seriously if I go in speaking fluent Japanese? ok
Finding Westerners who speak Japanese fluently is like finding Unicorn, so obviously they won't take you serious.

>>134034244
Japan already has a giant alcohol culture but obviously alcohol is totally different from any other drugs because the government said so right?

>>134034286

そんな！

I've seen a few people say their japanese skill improved a lot after reading X amount of visual novels, in the form of "I didn't text hookers after my (x)th novel" or "I never needed to look up grammar after my (x)th novel". Those weren't the exact sentences that were said, but you get the point.

I've never seen someone say the same thing, but after reading manga or light novels though. Is there a reason for this? Will reading manga or light novels not increase my skill as well as if I read visual novels?

>>134034300

Yes, see >>134034214

Stay mad stoner.

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>>134034300
Alcohol is degenerate too. We hate them too.

>>134034342
Because dumb faggots use texthookers with VNs

>>134034350
>Korea consuming way more than Japan

I'm calling bullshit. Since I've been here I've met exactly 2 people that drink alcohol. Meanwhile all my Japanese buddies drink.

>>134034350
>Italia that low
No way.

>>134034344
Damn your generalisations really showed me

>>134034350
Alcohol doesn't make people degenerate, degenerates just drink alcohol, same with all other drugs

>>134034435
Found the kike.

>>134034441
I wish, I'd probably be a rich as fuck lawyer or some shit

>>134034342
Reading manga in Japanese will improve your skill of reading manga in Japanese, but not skill of discussion in Japanese or even reading books in Japanese.

This American guy knows a lot more kanjis than average Japanese, but he can't even speak in standard level Japanese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJf1IXAupmY

It's the same for Japanese native speakers. Who have read a ton of manga in his younger age, he won't be good at reading books or talking in real life, they rather become socially retarded. Manga will help you understand the situation of story line, but it makes your basic learning skill lower.

>>134028201
猫を描く

>>134034417
Your little experience doesn't prove anything 2bh. Even in Japan. it's basically common knowledge that Japanese people are weaker in alcohol compared to mainland Asians. I guess your "Japanese friends" are not actually Japanese.

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>>134034435
>Alcohol doesn't make people degenerate, degenerates just drink alcohol, same with all other drugs
Are you 李白？

>>134034342
Manga and LN are targeted towards a young audience. VNs mostly being 18+ are targeted towards intelligent adults capable of understanding more difficult, so to speak, literary writing. It's like comparing the Hunger Games to Faulkner, though the Hunger Games might still be a more challenging read than manga and LN of course.

>>134034689
>VNs mostly being 18+ are targeted towards intelligent adults capable of understanding more difficult
Do you even know what 18+ means here in Japan? lol

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>>134034689
>VNs mostly being 18+ are targeted towards intelligent adults capable of understanding more difficult, so to speak, literary writing.
Great bait.

>>134034745
I don't think he is trolling, but he is just being American.

>>134034689
Yes, as mature and sophisticated individuals it is our duty to consume literary masterpieces such as Flyable Heart and not that manga trash meant for children.

>>134034689
>VNs mostly being 18+ are targeted towards intelligent adults capable of understanding more difficult, so to speak, literary writing.
おちんちん means dick
you can now understand at least a 1/3 of 90% of 18+ VNs you will ever play

>>134034745
ふぃすとおぶふゅりぃのらすとしーんだ

かっこいいなあ

>>134034534
I don't think anyone on /djt/ can pump out 100 lines of poetry after consuming copious amounts of alcohol

Nigga knew about the ballmer peak before it was even named!

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Manga time needs to stop shilling ニューゲーム this hard.

>>134034342
Manga is mostly dialog while LNs and VNs have narration, which tends to use much more complex language and vocabulary.

>>134033350
>It's nothing short of full blown hypocrisy.
That's how humans function, but the difference is that we don't go into normalfag spaces and try to arrogantly and aggressively force them to change like they do to us. That is why they aren't welcome here.

It is about having a communal space for like minded individuals. That is essentially what 4chan was before it exploded into a multitude of normalfag boards, before m00ts retarded little still born side projects, before the media made exploding vans a meme. Accepting human behaviour and stop trying to force people to be open to everyone isn't pathetic, it's called surviving. If humanity took on the contemporary attitude of letting everyone come in and shit all over your unique spaces, we would have died out tens of thousands of years ago. We need competing forces to thrive.

>>134034289
Get out of your basement for once. There are a hell of a lot of fluent non-native Japanese speakers.

I asked this a few threads ago but got no response, wikibooks claims the potential form can't be made into the て form, is this true? I swear I see stuff like 聞けて everywhere, or are they exceptions or what?

>>134035277
>There are a hell of a lot of fluent non-native Japanese speakers.
I think it was too much to say they are like unicorn, but there are "a lot"?
Never. If you're white or black and speak fluent Japanese, you will become celebrity on TV only for it. Of course there are a lot of Asians who speak Japanese (especially Koreans) but average whites never be fluent.

>>134035385
Not sure if that's a rule or something, but I can't really imagine how you would even use something like that.

>>134035436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufupAt3DBgw
Just a normal bloke buying canned tuna in a walmart.

>>134035221
>LNs and VNs have narration, which tends to use much more complex language and vocabulary.
And it only makes you autistic like this poor American guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJf1IXAupmY

>>134035484
No, not really. To say that they're more complex than the language used in conversation is not to say that they're overly complex.

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>>134035482
Wow, he's really impressive Japanese skill. I wonder he is actually American (he clearly looks half Asian) though.
But as I said, he can be celebrity just because he speak Japanese this fluent.
The pic is Jero, he is partly Japanese but he doesn't look Japanese so much and he sings Enka in Japanese. His singing skill is not very impressive, but he could become celebrity just because it is funny that black guy sing fluently Japanese song.