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Why is it possible to save wormslut but not Illya?

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Why is it possible to save wormslut but not Illya?
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She lives with Shirou in Fate route.
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>>134006921
She's pretty much destined to die a year after, though. I don't consider that saving her.
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>>134006957
I like to imagine she somehow manages to survive. Could be she's given Avalon by Shirou, or maybe Rin finds out how to create a better and improved homonculus body for her.
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>>134006332
The good die young, so the best never truly get to live.
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>>134006332
Prisma Illya is canon.
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Shit taste
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It's been confirmed that all Einzbern homunculi are fated to die after the 5th Holy Grail War, it was their last desperate hope and all-or-nothing.
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>>134006332
Doesn't the grail grant a wish?
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>>134007667
How they fuck did they manage to lose and entire True Magic in the first place?
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If you like Rider and Illya, you pretty much like Wormslut with better character development.
That's all.

Look at BB or Carnival Phantasm Sakura.
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>>134007709
It actually seems like the real Einzberns just died out.
There are none left. There are only homunculi making homunculi, now.
Jubstacheit is just chief homunculus.
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>>134007761
I love Illya but thought Rider was kinda meh.
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I wish you could sacrifice wormslut to save everyone and have it be a good end.
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>>134006332
Because Sakura is an innocent girl, unlike Ilya who wants to gleefully torture a boy she's never even met before just because she has daddy issues.
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>>134007761
>better character development
Sakura is the third most developed character in F/SN right behind Shirou/Archer and Kotomine. Ilya might well come in 4th or 5th place, but Rider is just an edgier and sluttier Saber with an ancient Greek version of Sakura's backstory.
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>>134007684
Ilya is the best.

Just the best.
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>>134007850
It comes out a bit twisted, but I don't think "torture" is her true goal. Especially if circumstances were a little different.
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>>134008689
>crushes his lungs, cuts off his head and makes it immortal so she can continue to torture it forever
>it comes out a bit twisted
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>>134007850
>daddy issues.
Did she ever know if Kiri tried and failed to get her back?
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>>134009071
>Kiri
His name is Kerry, anon. Also I don't exactly remember, I don't think she did?
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>>134009071
The grail fed her lies about Kiritsugu in the anime but in the VN if I remember correctly she didn't know he was already dead.
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>>134009179
It wasn't the grail, it was Acht warping her mind to believe that Kiritsugu had abandoned her.
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>>134006332
At least we've got Prisma Illya, she can enjoy an ordinary life other girls would have
I really appreciate that, my dear daughter
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>>134006332
I don't like Illya and wouldn't really want to save her even if given the chance.
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>>134007761
I don't see the similarity between Ilya and Sakura to be honest.
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Have I missed something with Kaleid Liner with the catgirls episode? I swear I've watch everything, but not seen any catgirls.
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>>134012599
It's one of the specials, not a part of the main show.
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>>134009016
Would still do for her.
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>>134008182
I ain't clicking that, I ain't falling for your tricks.
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>>134007761
>Carnival Phantasm Sakura
You mean the completely out of character one?
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>>134006332
Yeah it's stupid. Nasu goes out of his way to wave a nice ending for wormslut but when it comes to best girl he can only give her a bitter ending.
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Ilya willingly sacrificing her own life for the sake of her brother is literally saving herself why cant you fucking plebs understand this holy fuck bruh
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>>134008689
Grown up Ilya is so hot why does this have to be not H?
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>>134013892
Is this your favorite picture of Ilya?
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>>134015420
That doesn't mean she shouldn't get an actual happy end you piece of shit.
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Shirou is stupid.
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>>134007053
>Avalon
It's Fate, Avalon is back in Wales with Seibah.

Also it doesn't really work as well without Saber around to power it.

I'm sorry, anon, but I couldn't think of a nicer way to tell you.
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All these broken dreams

It was never meant to be
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>>134008055
She isnt developed at all, really.

Ilya is pretty well developed from Fate and HF. She was a bit of a non-entity in UBW but had that decent scene with Berserker after she gets Gate of Babylowned.

Sakura is a non-entity in Fate and UBW and then really only serves as a plot-devise to enable the third aspect of Shirou's development.
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Sakura is a bootleg Grail. She wasn't constructed to be optimized for anything.

Ilya (and all homunculi) are crafted with a specific goal in mind. Where a human is simply born, a homunculus is created to do X. Ilya is created to be a Master in the 5th Holy Grail war, and also to be the Lesser Grail, so she's optimized to do that.

To put it another way: Ilya is deliberately minmaxed so she's great at the one thing other people want her to do, but because of that, she gets the short end of the stick elsewhere.

Sakura is a bootleg version of Ilya, but she's not specially optimized to that role, so she has something left over to save.
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>>134015493
Because it's official manga.
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By the way. Miyuverse's Holy Grail War just started.
There are no Einzbern, no Rin and no Servants.
But a lot Matous and Class cards which can masters themself turn into Heroic Spirits.
Also Shirou went full Heaven's Feel mindset.

Confirmed Masters - Cards:
>Shirou - Archer card (EMIYA)
>Sakura - Berserker (Lancelot)

5 more masters remains.
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>>134018462
Sakura a shit.
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>>134006332
>>134006332
in a better universe the Ilya route is real
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>>134018462
Actually Hiroyama made her likeable.
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>>134018716
In a better universe Illya is real.
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>>134018729
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>>134018729
Cant polish a turd.
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>singlehandedly saved the VN
>no happy ending
Fuck you Nasu. Don't give me that bullshit with the spinoff. I love it, but its not Ilya.
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>>134018739

I wouldn't want to have to deal with her dying again though
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>>134018729
>likeable
Nah.
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>>134018091
All of the grails are bootleg, but I guess it's nasu's lolchristianity here.
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>>134018462
>>134018729
>>134018767
Mai waifu.
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>>134019027
- Said by no one with good taste.
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>>134018729
Only way how you can make Sakura really likeable is give her into combo with Rider.
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>>134019192
Sakura just runs every image here of lovely Rider.
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>>134019050
Yeah, everyone knows the real F/SN Sakura is superior to the Miyuverse one.
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>>134019192
>Posting worst Rider
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>>134019775
why that shinji is so likeable (well shinji post UBW is likeable too).
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>>134006332
>homonculus
>save

She has her life halved compared to regular homonculi
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>>134018155
Well, the official fucking source material for all of those are H, so he's got a point in complaining.
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