Translated from APForums' YonkouProductions by a Pirateking (the spanish forum) user by Redon's petition.
Kaido has a group of fighters called "The Gifters", hybrids between humans and animals
They face Inuarashi (morning king of Zou) and probably >>133998077 , who Wanda considers 'the strongest fighter in the island'
Inuarashi says they can't keep saying that (Not sure about this transation) as he lost his fight against Jack.
Wanda tells him he'd have won if Jack hadn't introduced "that weapon" on the island
Luffy asks the meaning of that
Chopper tells him the weapon that destroyed the country was Cesar's 'gas weapon'
No news from Sanji yet
Mammoth fruit is Smile, his other powers come from a real fruit, you fucking faggots
>coming to a spoiler thread and spergs about spoilers
Fucking faggot, fuck off back to /v/
I'm still with you bros. We can Anti-Manners Kick Course together until the cows come home.
What if Jack is Big Mam's hubby/Lola's dad?
Mangapanda here, only redrawing and typesetting is left, so chapter in 3 hours!
>No news from Sanji yet
>Luffy and Zoro don't mind him being missing
>Chopper and Brook didn't even try to tell them what happened
>Everyone else doesn't care
Sanji is living the hard knock days.
>smiles can be any animal
>but not an ancient one, because anon said so
>Hundred Beasts Pirates Captain of the Mammoth Ship - Jack the Drought, the ground which Jack stands on dries up and decays, hence his epithet, he is in the Disaster-Trio group, the other two of which both have their epithet named after disasters relating to their abilities, all of them are Kaido's trusted henchmen.
New spoilers, as posted on OroJackson
Don't know how reliable are they but meh, they match with the image spoilers we've seen so far:
Cover - Usopp's home village
> the mammoth is looking for the Wano warrior
> the Minks are surprised to see a prehistoric animal
> Bariete hurries in and rings the bell; it's an enemy's raid
> the gate was demolished by pirates; and the Minks decide to chase after them
> at that time, Jack and his men already knocked down the guard (a horse Mink)
>The mammoth is actually a man serving for Kaidou's Hundred Beast's Pirate Crew
> Kaidou has 3 lieges: Jack of the "drought damage" from the mammoth troup, Sheepshead and Jinramy (*new name, so no guarantee for correct spelling)
> the way Jack walks along turns into dust as if a drought came along; that's why he's called Jack of the "drought damage"
> "Hundred Beast's Pirate Crew - [gifter?] Star of the evening", Sheepshead.
On his right arm, a design similar to that of "Miss Bukkin"'s clothes (self-proclaimed lover of Whitebeard), who appeared the other day
> their relation is still unknown
Doffys operation sure was fucking broken. The fact that Kaido has an entire hubrid Zoan squad heavily implies that the fake DFs were just all of the same kind or generally speaking weak. Inbefore Ceasar actually was able to create ancient and mythical zoans and this mammoth was one of his creations.
Reminder: copied as written, they might be fake/there might be mistakes
-> "Raizou" is the reason why they came to Zou
> this samurai, one of the so-called Cannel (?) troup, is a disturbing factor for Kaidou, and Raizou (who Kanjurou and the others look for) was the leader
> it's said that Momo's rescue is the key
> Jack only wants one certain thing, Raizou
> he lets his underling Pregess (*again, new name) searching the country, even though the Minks say he's not here
> they start a counterattack with their electros
> Minks have a natural self-defense already given by birth
> the Minks ask if Jack will want to meet with the Lord, but he refuses
> Jack lets the gifters destroy the country
> without any possibility to talk things out, the war begins, and the Clow capital turns into a battlefield
-flashback ends here-
> Brook asks if it's clear now why "samurai" and the "country of Wa" are prohibited words
> Luffy is disappointed because the ninja Kin'emon was talking about isn't here
> Brook tries to prevent the worst and asks about the patients
> one of the three musketeers of Inuarashi, Cicilian of the "full power", leads them to Inuarashi
> Luffy feels a strong presence at the moment they meet
> Wanda says they had the upperhand in the war, but if that one certain tool wasn't here...
> Chopper explains the tool that caused this country's destruction was CC's poison gas (tool)
>the way Jack walks along turns into dust as if a drought came along; that's why he's called Jack of the "drought damage"
So the drought thing is more figurative? Also I guess there really is some sort of connection with Jack and the Weevil duo.
Just warning and posting, bruh
Whatever it is, it can be matter of debate for a couple hundred posts
Surely more interesting than the usual pastafags' endless shitposting
Even I have serious doubts about the authenticity of the spoilers, tho
>Lola & Namizou
>Nami on Zou currently
>Mammoth has Lola's hair
Last "From the Deck's of the World" went in order of islands that we visited. Presumably the same will happen here, only this time we won't see quite as many islands as it is a bounty reaction series this time.
I think Nami is great tier, she's pretty much the only strawhat who consistently takes things seriously, there's no bullshit with her and she's much more relatable than Usopp, i like the way she interacted with Enel.
I thought Zoro was great tier until the shit he pulled at Punk Hazard, the guy literally sat on his ass/held back for several minutes against Monet while the rest of his crewmates were in danger. When you're one of the strongest in the crew, you can't afford that kind of behavior.
>Sheepshead is a liegeleader like Jack
>jobbed against Sanji
>Inuarashi had the upper hand against Jack
Way to ruin the hype, in the end Kaido loses against Kidds alliance, gg wp
>sat on his ass
>crewmates were in danger
In danger from what?
Luffy pretty much one hit ceaser, and Law/smoker were doing their own thing. Zoro can't cut gas mate, he was doing what he needed to do (he just got carried away toying with monet.)
Nice try faggot~
Not him but
>sword fighting guy with central european clothing and a loose white shirt
This guy basically is the musketeer version of Mihawk, Hell, both are seemingly implied to be french as well. Only thing he is missing is a fucking cross.
>Oda hypes Jack as someone capable of going head on against 2 admiral level fighters
>makes him lose to some random furry that has no relevance on the grand scale of things
Good job killing all the hype Oda you fucking idiot
>Gin Rummy "No, Jack. We came here to capture the samurai."
>Sheepshead:"Idiot, he ain't a samurai. Raizou's a ninja!!
>Gin Rummy "Silence, Sheepshead! Samurai is just a general name for the warriors of Wano! Either word is fine."
Exposition is a bit clunky
>Rest of the crew were in danger
From what? Zoro saved Nami, Robin, and Chopper from Monet and told them to go on ahead. I'm sure he trusts them to handle the situation with the kids
>Sanji was losing to Vergo
>got defeated by Doffy in like 2 pages without landing a hit
>still capable of defeating one of Kaido's subordinates in a fucking panel
Yeah all the hype is lost.
Some people think the enemies to face by the SH have the same distance in power than Cocoyashi-Luffy vs EL-Rucci.
SH are already on the top, lower level maybe, but already top.
So most NW players are going to be either below or at the SHs level, some a quite higher, and then a few 'creme-de-la-creme' level.
>Raizou is actually a badass and not a retard like Kin and Kan
Don't let me down Oda
>Not all famous swordsmen are french you know
>Christian cross around his neck
>drinks wine all day
>loose fitting, yet styled white cotton shirt which has been a distinctive southern french style for centuries
>fluffy feathers attached to his head which wasnt even common outside of certain parts of Europe
>literally wears a cape which, at least not to my knowledge, was even common outside of southern/western Europe
And those are just the most obvious his. The inspiration for this character sure as hell werent the Japanese.
>since their strongest fighter could handle him.
And how is that a bad thing? Maybe you're underestimating the minks? Would you be any less impressed if Jack lost to the strongest Human or strongest Fishman? Or strongest Animal? Remember, Luffy needed to develop gear 4 for some of those niggas. If the strongest Minkman couldnt even take on an underling, I'd say that completely ruins the hype for the minkmen tribe as a whole.
For the fucking 1 millionth time: SANJIS BODY WAS DAMAGED AS FUCK WHEN HE FOUGHT VERGO
And you really blame Sanji for losing to Doffy who not only was in the air at that time but who also forced Luffy to play his trump card and even tanked that shit until Luffy was out of gas? Fucking kill yourself
>powerleveling whole crews
>Sanji was losing to Vergo
his body was beat as shit
>got defeated by Doffy in like 2 pages without landing a hit
Doffy was a fucking monster and it took both Luffy and Law to beat him. Also he was oblivious to his string power and got caught
>And you really blame Sanji for losing to Doffy who not only was in the air at that time but who also forced Luffy to play his trump card
Correction: who would have easily beaten Luffy in a proper 1v1 if he hadnt been damaged by Law, the entire island hadnt literally sacrificed their lives for Luffy for a dozen minutes, the entire island hadnt severely delayed the birdcage etc.
But to be honest, that was a good conclusion because it was shown that Doflamingo still is miles above Luffy.
Sanji capable of beating one of the strongest of Kaidou's men effortlessly would mean that whoever Zoro would fight, would be impossible to push Zoro to the point of needing Asura.
Kinda meh for Yonkou crew.
>Correction: who would have easily beaten Luffy in a proper 1v1 if he hadnt been damaged by Law, the entire island hadnt literally sacrificed their lives for Luffy for a dozen minutes, the entire island hadnt severely delayed the birdcage etc.
>Doffy was able to extend the fight by using Awakening to keep distance
>Luffy could punch him below and finish him without using King Kong Gun, but instead punched him afar and didn't managed to get close
>Implying that fresh Luffy vs fresh DD wouldn't end in Luffy's victory
>Implying that Luffy couldn't go King Kong Gun from the beginning, punching Doflamingo into bedrock, making him unable to dodge any future attack
Yeah, Doflamingo couldn't win.
He should have done his duty : kill strong enemies. He should have blitzed Monet the moment she appeared, cutting her in pieces WITH haki, instead of just scaring her, allowing her to later recover and almost set off the bomb that could have killed them all. Then he should have run to the SAD room and help Smoker and Law against Vergo. But he didn't, even though he's supposed to be the "no bullshit" guy.
Zoro in late Punk Hazard was shit tier, almost as bad as Sanji with Kalifa.
Jack is not just an underling, he is top tier in Kaidos crew. Wich implies around Admiral level.
Giving him a good fight, yes. Holding the upper hand until Shinokuni, no.
>Luffy needed to develop gear 4 for some of those niggas
Yes, and he needed Gear 4 for Doffy. If some animals are stronger than Jack, how it would put him around Doffy level. Wich would make Kaidos crew weak as fuck
Pretty sure there is a bit of difference between getting hit here and there and tanking a blow that the opposition expected to kill you. Still doesnt change the fact that Luffy would have died a pitiful death if it hadnt been for the hand holding by a few thousand people.
Having three or 4 underlings that are Doffy's level arent weak as fuck, you retard. And who's to say the strongest fucking Minkman isn't admiral level too? We literally dont know how strong these niggers are except what we saw with Carrot and the Rodi. Both of whom didnt get completely fodderized by Zoro or Luffy for fuck sakes.
>Implying that bird cage's little shrinking gimmick had nothing to do with using gear 4
His duty? lol his job was to stop monet from going after everyone, and he didn't really want to slice her. He didn't have to do shit for smoker or law, and his sense of direction is still garbage.
He wouldn't have been able to leave even if he wanted to.
>Implying that fresh Luffy vs fresh DD wouldn't end in Luffy's victory
I dont see anything that even remotely implies that. EVEN IF we assume that both of them were at the same level of energy (which is highly unlikely because Luffy didnt even suffer any damages like Doflamingo did) then we are still left with the fact that Luffy wasnt able to beat him. By the time he runs out of haki hes dead. So in the 1v1 that was shown to us, Luffy would have died. And thats not even taking shit like the birdcage into consideration.
Just seems off for someone totaly unrelated to world to be in the upper percent of strong people.
>Having three or 4 underlings that are Doffy's level arent weak as fuck
compared to Whitebeards crew? His Top Underlings were around Admiral level
>inb4 Doffy is Admiral tier
>Both of whom didnt get completely fodderized by Zoro or Luffy
Neither of them fighted seriously
From the Decks of the World ~ The 500,000,000 Man ~Vol. 4 Usopp's Hometown, Syrup Village
-Wanda's recollection continues...
Mammoth: "The warrior from Wano should be here!!"
The Minkfolk begin talking.
"A mammoth? Why is an ancient animal like that...!?"
The monkey that fell on Kin'emon as the Strawhats were climbing the big elephant climbs the watchtower and begins ringing the bell.
He screams to the forest "Ha...ha... Enemy attack～～～!!!!」
Minks:"The gate's been broken!"
"It's pirates!!! Drive them out of here～～!!!!」
Minks:"Warrior from Wano!? Raizou!? We don't know anything about him!!" "Don't wreck our country!! Go away!!"
-Sheepshead, "The Top Star of the Gifters" appears.-
Sheepshead:"Hahaha… you、the illusive country of the Minks…you really are quite beastly"
Minks: Identify yourself!! Who are you-gara?!!
Sheepshead: "Do you know who you're talking to?!! You're in the presence of the Emperor Kaidou's retainer!!
"One of his 3 closest members called 'The Disasters'!! 'Jack the Drought'!!"
-The area Jack passed through is withered and destroyed just as his name implies.-
"Hand over Raizou!! You wouldn't want to have you peaceful lives jeopardized would you!? Or do you want to fight？」
Jack's goons: "Gehehehe"
Monjii（an old Mink）"We don't wish to fight!! But if you have no ears to listen to us, it does no good to talk..."
"You're Jack you say...we don't lie. If you're looking for someone you may search each building..."
-Before he can finish, Jack swipes the Minks away.-
Goon: "Gyahahahaha、women, children, the old, none will be spared!!"
Jack: "Gin Rummy, did we come here for a discussion?"
Gin Rummy "No, Jack. We came here to capture the samurai."
Sheepshead:"Idiot, he ain't a samurai. Raizou's a ninja!!
Gin Rummy "Silence, Sheepshead! Samurai is just a general name for the warriors of Wano! Either word is fine."
Jack: "I desire only one thing! Bring me Raizou!"
Minks: "How can...?! but we said he isn't here!!"
Jack: "Then, "Pleasures", scour the country!"
-The Pleasures begin to attack, but they are repelled by the Minkfolk's "Electro" attacks.-
Defeated Pleasures: "Gyaha...!!What's! What the!Them!! That old man!! The brat!!" "That hurt!"
Monjii:"There are no weaklings in this country! The Minkfolk are natural-born warriors!! Even babies know self-defense!!"
Monjii:"You-gara, are you going to make enemies and fight the whole country!? Even then, there's our trained Musketeers with skill that words fail to describe!"
"It won't be resolved by fighting! If you're looking for someone, won't you just talk to our country's Duke!!"
Jack: "Talk? I refuse. "Gifters, ahead!"
The Gifters, a group of weirdos with animal parts of their bodies, rush forward.
Minks:"What? Their bodies?!"
Jack:"Destroy the country and get me the samurai!"
-Wanda's recollection finishes. The scene changes.-
don't know why but it reminds me of this guy
Reported for subtle avatarfagging
And nothing implies that Doflamingo got constantly punched for 20 minutes, as it was shown that he was using his awakening ability to keep safe distance.
Again: King Kong Gun punches Doflamingo deep into bedrock. Before Doflamingo gathers himself to stand up, he gets punched again. And again. And again.
And Doflamingo can't stitch blunt damage, like he did with Gamma Knife.
>Doffy stopped Jozu
Doffy toyed with him he's Admiral level
I guess Foxy is Toptier too, since he could stop Luffy?
You people forget he chickened out when challenged by Aokiji
>He was not scared of Jozu in the slightest.
Crocodile wasn't afraid of Luffy. Arrogance is no an indicator for strength
I guess the Yeti bros are easily Yonko level then since they defeated like half of the strawhat crew. Oda makes the strawhats job nearly every single time they enter a new arc in order to make the new characters seem more threatening
>Wiper soloing the entire monster trio in one page
>Blueno completely dominatin Luffy and Sanji
>Strawhats getting captured in thriller bark
>Luffy getting cut by Hyouzou
>Zoro losing to the yeti cool bros and Caesar defeating Luffy, Robin and Franky.
Stop being such a fucking idiot jesus christ Carrots encounter with Zoro means literally nothing, he was only using casually one sword and had no intention of actually hurting her
>>Wiper soloing the entire monster trio in one page
Wiper tanked several of Enel's strong attacks, don't talk shit about him.
He was likely the one who handled Bellamy's fodder crew.
Luffy wasnt even Gear 2, wich pretty much is his standart by now
Zoro draw one Sword.
You also tend to forget, that the Strawhats don't go full on out on unknown people, they didn't consider the Minks as enemies
Nigger. You're the one saying they're admiral level, you dumbass. You cant prove that Jozu was any stronger than Doffy because the only time they confronted eachother was when Doffy toyed with him. What proof do you have? None. So stop being a fucking baby and admit that Whitebeard's officers = admirals is a completely shitty headcanon you shat out of your ass.
Luffy at the time he got stopped by Foxy was weaker than Blueno you dumbass your analogy makes literally zero sense.
Doffy managed to stop Jozu dead in his tracks and casually ave a conversation with Crocodile while using him as a chair meanign Jozu couldn't break free something even Luffy could do while in gear 4.
>Doffy managed to stop Jozu dead in his tracks and casually ave a conversation with Crocodile while using him as a chair meanign Jozu couldn't break free something even Luffy could do while in gear 4.
Technically, Doflamingo sitting on Joz's back and keeping direct hold is more reliable than being quite far from Luffy and holding him with Parasaito indirectly.
Especially that all Doflamingo could do was to keep Joz immobilized and nothing more.
>WHitebeards' top officers are admiral level!
>Akainu was only slightly annoyed when BOTH Marco and Vista attacked him in the same time
>Kizaru didn't even take Marco seriously and was only bothered when Ben Beckman appeared
Just using your logic, M80
>Jozu fought on equal terms with Kuzan. (bullshit but whatever)
>Doffy toyed with Jozu
>Luffy beat Doffy
>Luffy > Doffy > Jozu = Kuzan
See how retarded this all sounds, you powerlevel faggot?
Shanks himself is barely Sanji level at this point. And his whole crew is small and doesn't seem as competent as a supernova's crew'.
Only his magic ability to make useless fodder feint bothers the marines.
Shanks is probably the weakest of the Yonkou and will be taken down easily by kidd to prove how much far behind they are.
Heck if you look at the situation currently, Jack jobbed against the Mink chief, only saved by a weapon, and he's kaido's second in command.
Kaido somehow can't die so he wins by default but he was weak enough to be captured 9 times.
Big Mum's massive ship was defeated by the Sunny and apparently Kidd sunk two others.
Blackbeard was gonna have his ass handed by Luffy in Impel Down. Ace only had a good fruit.
Really Emperors are the ultimate fodder. The end fight is gonna be Luffy vs the Marines after they easily conquer the New World.
what the fuck is wrong with One Piece this week, it was never this late. And no I'm not just an impatient cunt, it literally was NEVER this late.
It sounds pretty fucking retarded since Kuzan actually defeated Jozu rather easy but other than that everything fits.
>hurr durr muh power levulz are bad
Fuck off you retarde dcunt if you wanna be angry at someone then be angry at Oda for making such a massive power creep int he series and equalizing most devil fruit abilities with the introduction of haki
>both Luffy and Jozu are physical fighters
>one could break out of doffys string while the other couldn't
What's so hard to understand about this you fucking idiot it's pretty simple.
>if x defeats y and y defeats z then x also defeats z 99% of the time
Marcofags will try to murder you but they can't realize that their homosexual blow up doll is probably one of the weakest pirates in the New World.
If not for his fruit saving his life he would have died in the first second of Marineford. He was jobbed by Garp, Akainu tanked his attack like it was nothing, Kizaru was toying with him.
And this is an Emperor's second in command. Either Whitebeard was the weakest Yonko or all the Emperors put together barely watch the Marines.
i want powerlevel fags to leave
i want sanji haters to leave
i want speedreaders to leave
i want you all to leaaaave
Then what the fuck is your point? Werent you arguing that Jozu wad admiral-tier and stronger than Doffy because of your shitty powerlevel logic? Now you're saying the complete opposite.
I really got out of touch with the One Piece threads for about 2 or 3 weeks. Did I seriously miss some huge shit again? So how did this unfold, we sure have plenty of backup providers right?
I'm at the Davy Back arc and holy hell I did not think things could get worse. When will this end?
I was marathoning the fuck out of this until they defeated Crocodile and now everything is boring.
Dofflamingo was basically a Uber Yonko waiting for his chance to take over Marijoa.
>i want powerlevel fags to leave
Serious question: what exactly do people argue in shonen if not powerlevels? Because the story isnt necessarily deep, the world building not actually complex, and all the other shit you might come up with (read: interpretation) is head canon at best.
So you post Robin all day. What else?
Nigger, this whole shitty argument started because someone said Jack being Doffy-tier was weak, and therefore Kaido hype was diminished. If you're giving a pass to Whitebeard with his subordinates, then what makes Kaido any different?
>Then he was the weakest of the YOnko
Which is not what Yonko means. That term simply means emperor. He sure as hell wasnt weak. Quite the contrary, he probably was the strongest of them. He simply had the weakest army. Although even that is up for interpretation since Shanks seems to not even have multiple ships. So by that logic Shanks was the weakest of them.
> reads a battle shonen
> complains about 'combatbabbys leave reeee...'
> complains about power ranking
The Marines literally aknowledge power rankings by complaining about Garp not being an admiral and ranking their own soldiers based on strength alone.
And Just look at Kaido right now. And how Whitebeard had his 5 elite commanders...
I refuse to believe other release groups used the same shitty panda raws.
Did panda fuck up the quality of their own releases on purpose, while providing other teams with clean raws?
>Quite the contrary, he probably was the strongest of them. He simply had the weakest army.
Then he was the weakest
> He sure as hell wasnt weak.
Kaido > Whitebeard
Strongest being > Strongest man
Wanda:"…They didn't want to talk at all and just started fighting. The city became a battlefield in an instant."
Usopp:"…!! An Emperor's subordinates!! They attacked the country…!!"
Wanda:"…Ah, Why did they come all the way here… I don't know why they would think a samurai was here."
Luffy:"Hey, Usopp! She said a mammoth!"
Usopp: (in a tiny voice)"That's nothing to be happy about. Think about what happened!"
Brook:"So…now you understand why you can't say "samurai" and "Wano" around here!?"
Robin: "Awful people."
Luffy:"…But the ninja Kin'emon was talking about isn't here〜That's a let down."
-Usopp, Brook, and Nami's faces go pale.-
A curious Wanda: "Eh?"
-Usopp, Nami, and Brook pound Luffy-
Wanda:"Ninja?…"You mean the warrior from Wano? Do you-tia know anything about them?"
Brook: "No, no, not at all!! eh...the wounded!! How was the condition of the wounded…?"
Wanda: "Ah...I saw the Duke's treatment room. I wouldn't be good for them to come out here…Let's continue our talk later.
-Voices can be heard from the treatment room-
"Gyaaー!!" "I apologize, Sir Sicilian〜!!" "Sir Sicilian is going mad〜!!" "Ahー!!"
Wanda rushes over.
"Sir Sicilian!? What is it!?"
One of Duke Inuarashi's 3 Musketeers, "Full strength" Sicilian（Lion-minkman）:"Oh、Wanda?…!! Hoo…they-gara speak only of sweets things, so I just cast them into the valley! Kindness・Love・Romance・Babies・Sugar・Honey!! Never speak of such saltless things in front of me again!! I'll rip out your throats!! Ha,come back up here by your own strength!!」
The Minks that Sicilian threw into the valley: "Oo ow wow…""Harsh…but…so cool...""I'm sorry!! I'll never speak of sweet things again!!"
Whitebeard was destroyed by the Marines like Sanjo against Vergo.
So basically if all Yonko fail to live up to the hype like him they you might as well quit reading until Luffy starts battling the actual final villains.
>people suddenly get arrested for something that has gone alright for a decade
>wow like, why would anyone be scared lmao
If you heard about people close to you being imprisoned for downloading music, would you keep doing it yourself?
Sicilian:"So long as you understand that!"
Wanda: "Sir Sicilian, these are the Strawhats."
-Sicilian jumps way up and lands in front of the Strawhats, lowering his head (as Fujitora did to King Riku).-
"I thank you for saving this country. I shall never forget what you have done."
Wanda: "Sir Sicilian always does everything with all his might."
Luffy:"Hot-blooded lion, huh."
-Sicilian opens the door.-
"The Duke is waiting inside. In!! …No dawdling!!」
Chopper: "Ah, Luffy!"
King of the Daytime, Duke Inuarashi:" You-gara are the Strawhats, are you?"
Wanda:"Duke, you're all right!"
Inuarashi: "You really saved us then. Thank you, truly."
Luffy:"I think it was my crew actually, but I haven't really heard about what happened yet."
Inuarashi:"No、you all too…Strawhat Luffy."
Luffy: ".. but you're a strong old guy. Really strong, yeah?!
Wanda: "What? That's rude. The Duke is the best warrior in this land"
Inuarashi:"…haahaa…Stop…you say that to a loser."
Wanda: "Loser?! Well, the enemies were quite strong. They were more prepared to battle. If Jack hadn't brought that weapon here...!!"
Chopper:"Yeah, that's right Luffy. One of Caesar's poison gas weapon destroyed this country!"
Well, you know what, I don't fucking care WHEN we get our releases. I just want them to be stable weekly releases. I don't mind getting a free English One Piece chapter a week after the official release, as long as it comes out every monday, or any other day of the week of your choice.
>until Luffy starts battling the actual final villains.
I-Is it... t-them?
Because he's their leader?
Kaido is the strongest being. It's not like they say the new strongest man. They made it clear it's being. Which means it's more relevant to say that no other creature in the world beats him.
They didn't do the same for Whitebeard.
>Whitebeard vs entire marine force including the top dogs + shichibukai
>anyway comparable to Sanji against Vergo
And Why the fuck would I stop reading? Sorry I'm not a powerlevelfag like you. That shit doesnt matter to me.
It matters that fighters in a battle shonen live up to their hype.
If you don't like battle shonen maybe you should look for another manga? Sorry I'm not whatever kind of fag you are.
Schlomo Mc Goldstein figuring out some new financial tools to rig the market and leech off of society.
>I don't mind getting a free English One Piece chapter a week after the official release, as long as it comes out every monday, or any other day of the week of your choice.
Thanks for sharing your blog, you have a shitty opinion though.
BM has the best subordinates. Female Tien and Bobbin a best.
>implying One Piece is first and foremost a battle shounen rather than an adventure series
Also Whitebeard did live up to the hype for me so I dont know why you're telling me to stop reading. You should be telling yourself that.
>Wanda: "Loser?! Well, the enemies were quite strong. They were more prepared to battle. If Jack hadn't brought that weapon here...!!"
JACK DIDN'T JOB AGAINST AN IRRELEVANT FURRY
THE WEAPON DID NOT SAVE HIM
ANTI KAIDO BTFO
Should be getting chapters on Friday from now on. Ishuhui has set that as their new release date.
If it weren't for Pandagate last week we would've gotten the chapter on Wednesday because Jump was releasing early, instead we got it on Thursday.
> an adventure series
> not a battle shonen
More than half of the page space of each arc is devoted to fighting.
Don't be deluded. If you're insecure about reading a battle shonen go read a seinen. If you're ok with reading something that wasn't intended for your demographic like most of us here then stay.
Fucking mudsharks, i fucking wish bestiality was punishable with death REEE.
Those things don't even look fucking human and they probably don't smell human either how the fuck could any woman be physically attracted to that? REEEE
>Luffy:"…But the ninja Kin'emon was talking about isn't here〜That's a let down."
>inb4 Raizou was hiding on the island the whole time and didn't come out because he's a douche
>If I spam it enough times it will become true
It's a battle shonen. Like Bleach, like Naruto, like Jojo. nothing wrong with it. Get over it kid.
The fuck are you talking about? I dont have to take powerlevels and shit like that seriously because a lot of the fights in One Piece are gag fights or story/character development themed fights. This isnt a DBZ type of battle shounen, you nigger. You'd have to be a deluded Marineford babby if that's what you think. There's a lot to enjoy about One Piece besides serious powerlevel faggotry fights or else I wouldnt enjoy it as much as I do.
> I hate battles
> More than half of One Piece page space is devoted to battles
It must suck to read One Piece for you.
>> More than half of One Piece page space is devoted to battles
If you said half of all anime times is battles I might believe it, given how toei drag the fuck out of that shit, but for the manga? That is maybe true for less than 1 in 10 chapters.
>Those other series you named dont have adventure like One Piece do, nigger. That's a fact.
Are you retarded? Non-human doesn't sound as badass as creature and implies the same thing.
Whitebeard was definitively stronger than Kaido, it was directly stated many times there was no one else who could have gone toe-to-toe with Roger and he was the closest to the One Piece of anyone. He was stronger than Kaido. Kaido is a man known for having an army of beasts and seems to be one himself (and likely not by a Devil Fruit since he doesn't seem to be able to drown) which is why it needs to be stated he is the strongest creature alive. It makes him more exciting as a character to have people wonder what he is.
>That is maybe true for less than 1 in 10 chapters.
Saying that right after the gigantic battle rollercoaster that was Dressdrossa. How ironic.
The only one deluded here is you, one piece is a pretty generic battle shonen really.
>most of the story post timeskip centered around power levels
>literally every single conflict or plot point in this story has been resolved through fights
>at the end of every single arc there has been a fight between luffy and the big bad
Yeah no you're a fucking retard, obviously one piece has an adventure aspect to it but pretty much every single shonen does.
>Nanatsu no Taizai
Says the nigger who actually thinks Bleach is better than OP
At least JoJo has fights that don't just boil down to who can punch stronger. Luffy hasn't been creative in a fight since Skypea. The only thing that changed post time skip is his speed/strength/durability.
>it was directly stated many times there was no one else who could have gone toe-to-toe with Roger
Maybe because Kaido wasn't a Yonko then.
>Non-human doesn't sound as badass as creature and implies the same thing.
They made a point to repeat that, on land, in sea... not a single living thing may defeat Kaido.
I do believe Oda wanted to make this point.
>Are you retarded?
>At least JoJo has fights that don't just boil down to who can punch stronger.
Almost every Jojo arc consists of 90% fights that last about 5 chapters, as a result the overall story is as thin as paper
And yet Kaido felt the only way he had a chance of defeating a heavily weakened Whitebeard was by ambushing him. Maybe Kaido will have better feats but in-story it is made very clear Whitebeard was stronger.
And Enies Lobby, and Shabondy as soon as the first shots are fired.
And Impel Down (Heck in Impel downs they even have levels for power levels kek).
And Skypeia as soon as they step on Enel's Island (Enel vs Luffy is possibly the most drawn out fight).
I could go on before, if you refuse to see the pattern it's not worth arguing. Luffy arrives on an Island. Explores it a little, then suddenly shit hits the fan and the fighting start.
Arcs that focus more on exploration are usually in between major arcs, where Oda wants to lower his hype crescendo. Even there there's a heavy part played by fighting.
One piece is not primarily an adventure manga. It's secondary to the fighting. There are manga that focus on travel... and they have a category of their own.
>And yet Kaido felt the only way he had a chance of defeating a heavily weakened Whitebeard was by ambushing him.
You wot? Kaido attacked Whitebeard when he had called his entire fleet at his side. If anything it was the worst time to attack.
Kaido suicides for fun. You would think he would want to fight Whitebeard at his best.
Shit the same way a paw paw fruit allows someone to move at high speeds or the ope ope fruit allows someone to teleport! That is it doesn't matter as long as oda says it works
I'm not >>134001352 just in case
Jojo has as much adventure as One Piece, but it suffers more from fight of the week structure. If you except Jojolion. But really both have as much exploration/adventure. Not because Jojo is in our world and urban that there's not a lot of wonders and world exposition.
>Heck in Impel downs they even have levels for power levels kek
Which had nothing to do with any of the fights that took place, since the enemies were the guards. Seriously, how dumb are you?
Because most people posting in these threads redditors that have only read like 203 manga beside one piece.
They are fucking deluded but luckily there are still some anons left that have common sense.
>Seriously, how dumb are you?
Seriously? Or casually?
Did you read the conversation past two reply because I have no idea what you're trying to say. That or you're clinging to nitpick on a mistake that isn't here.
sure son, sure. now go and hug your pillow, I bet it feels lonely without your fat sweaty arms around it
having troubles expressing yourself?
If you don't like Battles Shonens you shouldn't read One Piece
If you don't like Adventure Shonens you shouldn't read One Piece.
It's that simple. And yet retards on both sides have shit up this thread, Once again. Because release day is when reddit comes to take their spoilers.
>One piece is not primarily an adventure manga. It's secondary to the fighting
Yes. That's why most of 1v1 fights are structured towards the end of most arcs where Oda usually knocks them off one by one in single chapters. No shit the series is a battle shounen, no ones denying that so most conflicts will be solved through fighting. But saying One Piece is primarily fights like Jojo, Bleach or DBZ is just wrong. A lot of the fights ARE storybased and gags, even some of the final fights with Luffy. It doesnt take a fight fag to enjoy them. Especially since a good chunk of the arcs dont rely on fights but rather developing different little story arcs within each island.
the world building is much better and detailed for One Piece, you can't even compare it to those series
geography, world powers and history are all very well connected for a shonen
The last thread had people talking about categories for Paramecia fruits. I did a quick rundown of all the traits they have in common and made a loose scatter map of familiarity. It's not perfect as it's only in 2D but the general gist is accurate. You can draw rough lines over the map to demarcate common areas, like a "produces a substance" zone.
>implying Garp/Sengoku/Akainu are not on Kaido's level
How the fuck do you think Kaido didn't know Whitebeard was dying? Everyone else knew. He had been that way for years already, how do you think he never encountered one of Kaido's men in that time. He met Shanks face-to-face even.
But that's exactly what character development is , character being qaffected by the situations they have been through or by their enviroment and thus changing their personality or outlook.
Meruem alone is better developed than the entire One Piece cast.
Move Mr. Prince and Sogeking to great tier, then pre-timeskip Sanji to okay tier. Rest is fine.
The tumblr meme from TG threads is here, just fucking great.
Soon as you get to G8, prepare for the fucking ride of your life afterwards. Water 7 is the peak of the series.
It it better than some arcs, especially all of post time skip.
Don't worry I'm with you.
Soon Sanji will makes his haters BTFO
Sanji haters hate Sanji because they're virgins who have convinced themselves that asexuality is manly.
They idolize Zoro and Luffy for not being interested in women and hate Sanji for reminding them that 100% of humanity values sex and romance.
Well, some of those are pretty good.
Sanji lovers love Sanji because they're virgins who can relate to him because they are not the only ones who fail with women.
They hate Zoro and Luffy because they get women even though they aren't even trying.
I'm pretty sure that all the Sanji-hate post are made by 2 or 3 obsessed persons.
If you pay attention, they always use the same arguments and no matter how much you prove that they're wrong, they'll use the same ones again in the next thread. Such as
> Losing to Vergo
> Lost to Doflamingo
> He didn't lose + his body was damaged as fuck
> It's fucking Doflamingo the tank who gived a fucking hard time to Luffy AND Law + even him acknowledged Sanji's stregth.
Shit even Luffy and Zoro know that Sanji will be fine no matter who he fought or is fighting now.
This shit has been said x times and it will still be said in the future threads.
You need to be 18 yrs or older to be on this site, nigga. But regardless, even if we take your highschool definition of character development, you have characters like Zoro, Garp, Crocodile, Robin, Kuzan, etc. that show that kind of development, and for less cliche reasons than Meruem.