Remix Heart. It had a likable MC and surprisingly good covering of the protagonist's adaptation to being a girl. Also, though it was a rather comedic manga, it didn't have its protagonist the standard genderbender cliches such as being embarrassed to look at her naked body, asking people how to pee or freaking out over menstruation. Furthermore, I liked the fact that after its protagonist became a girl she actually lived like one surrounded by other girls rather than spending her time with a male best friend or trying to pass for a boy.
Kanojo ni naru Hi and its spinoff. I also have a soft spot for Sekainohate de Ameshou because it was the thing that got me into gender bending and had the ending all gender bender manga should have. And last honorable mention is probably Megu Miruku, or Osananajimi wa Onnanoko ni Naare because the art is cute, though neither of them are incredibly good.
I mostly stick to h-manga now because they're easier to find feminization, mindbreak, and other awesome gender bender stuff.
It's made very obvious that a male did not wake up in the body of a girl in that series. You need to blindly believe the unreliable narrator and ignore every piece of evidence thrown at you b the manga to believe that it happened.
Himegoto was a pretty fun ride.
I really wish there was a continuation, I want to see Hime continue acting girly into his adult life and finding a girlfriend or boyfriend.
Shishunki Bitter Change. I'm big into gender bender as fap fodder, but this one particularly stands out because it's about the only "magical" gender bender manga that treats the subject seriously and manages to still be good. It's about a body swap that happens while the characters are still in elementary school and how the characters have to adjust to living as each other over the course of several years. Currently they're in their first year of high school. The pacing is slow and relaxed, the characters are well fleshed out, and while melodramatic the plot developments are very interesting. Both of the protagonists deal with the swap in varying ways, with one able to adapt fairly well (but still thinking of themselves as their proper gender), and the other having hardcore dysphoria.
As far as crossdressing manga goes, probably Reversible? It doesn't fall back on shotacon so much like you see most of the genre do, many of the characters of the characters are clearly designed as a "male" instead of something along the lines of "draw a girl and call it a guy", and it's just a fun read.
I wonder why the series had that 3 year timeskip. The main characters' behavior and relationship didn't appear to change, which made it feel as if there was no progression in the story. After 3 years in each other's bodies you'd think they'd have settled and learned how to act even if they still retained switching back as a long-term goal. Instead they were pretty much acting the same way they did immediately after the switch, which is rather odd considering how young they were when the switch occurred.
Why don't gender bending anime/manga try to portray the situation closer to accuracy? I mean, if a guy changes into a full woman. They would probably be ostracized and bullied by the girls, and they would be completely rejected by guys.
It rubs me the wrong way when the characters get so forgiving and accepting of the situation.
Another example is if there is a character with big boobs. Anime/manga typically portray the ideal where she is admired and loved, but they rarely show her getting bullied, being called a slut by jealous types, and guys judging her as a moron.
Because most series present this situation in an idealized way. Kashimashi is especially blatant about this, since everyone treats the MC as if she had always been a girl.
There are series that do have the character not being easily accepted though though; e.g. in Kanojo ni Naru Hi there is a stgma attached to characters that switch sex. And other series are able to avoid the issue entirely by having the MC move to another place and pretend that they had always been girls; e.g. Remix Heart, Asuka Hybrid and Ichinensei ni Nacchattara. Though that can still come into play; Mai in Remix Heart for example worries that she will be ostracized if people discover the truth about her past.
>I mean, if a guy changes into a full woman. They would probably be ostracized and bullied by the girls, and they would be completely rejected by guys.
We need more of that.
I've read Gacha Gacha - Secret and got blue balls because I tried edging for too long.
That's is what bothers me, gender bending would be so much better as a genre if they try to portray the situation with a more realistic portrayal with social dynamics that is believable.
At best, it should be a proper critique/criticism of gender norms. At worst is the pandering fetish crap that we see many examples of.
At least there are series that either address that issue or avoid it, such as the ones I mentioned before. There are some more serious series, such as Ame Nochi Hare or Haikyo Circle.
What I find worse is when everyone in the setting wants to fuck the genderbent MC. It's pretty common as well; we see it in e.g. Nyotai-ka, Boku Girl, Kashimashi, To Love Ru, Kampfer, Sora no Otoshimono, Entrans! and Ore Twintail. (Kashimashi and Sekainohate de Aimashou have it to a lesser extent too.) Having the MC be attractive is one thing, but having everyone openly wanting her is pretty ridiculous.
I don't really consider Ranma to be a good example of the genre since it was a martial arts parody first, a harem second and a genderbending comedy third. Ranma pretty much treated the transformation as a disguise or temporary inconveniece. The series never really dwelled on the subject and Ranma never seriously thought about how this transformation affected him. Then again I suppose that Ranma was essentially a gag comedy made for children, so one shouldn't expect nuanced characters or character development.
(Though the way that the only type of "progression" in Ranma was the introduction of new characters did irk me. The story and character relationships were all locked into stasis. E.g. no matter how blindingly obvious it became that P-chan was Ryoga, Akane could never made the connection because that would alter the status quo. And with 38 volumes the whole thing got pretty repetitive.)
Oh I didn't say it was a good genderbender. Ranma is a qt
shit most of the time
>guy turns to girl
>falls in love with guy friend and gets together with guy friend
>guy turns to girl
>falls stays in love with girl and ends up with girl (either as a girl or turns back to guy)
So i asked /h/ but they ignored me, i know you faggots are pesky when it comes to you know, being nice, but i'll try it anyways.
As you may know pururin is dead and for the most part i don't have a lot of good things saved there except for this one genderbent manga about a cop who infiltrates a gang of cyber criminals as a girl and they all rape him and he ends up liking dick and broken, do you guys know the name? It has like 4 or 5 volumes.
>No gender bending manga exists where after the MC changes, reality changes along with them so as far as the world is concerned they were always born a girl
>And then afterward, the MC goes full It's A Wonderful Life to see how his life changed through just his gender
You omitted "guy turns to girl, falls in love with guy she met after becoming a girl" from your schema.
These two eroge have that happen to the MC in one of their routes:
Gacha Gacha Secret and Capsule
I doubt many people remember it though.
Was there a manga?
Anyway, if you know Japanese check out Ai Mai Mist
and the Futaba Channel games
(avoid the first if you don't want the new girls being fucked by guys, you can't make choices in the first and she fucks a lot of guys, just be aware that the MC in the first game is a character in all the others)
Avoid Kuru Kuru Coeur ... it's just not worth it.
There are a number of them. Manga with full-time transformations where the MC is attracted only to girls include Asuka Hybrid, Ichinensei ni Nacchattara, Joshi Shougakusei Hajimemashita, Kashimashi, Tsukiyo no Fromage and Panikuru Iko-san. And almost all manga where the MC can switch forms have the MC only be attracted to women (e.g. Adolescence Avatar, Futaba-kun Change, Gacha Gacha Secret, Kampfer, Okitsune-sama de Chu, Ore Twintail, Ranma, Sai Taker, Saikyou Mahou Shoujo Akira).
Genderbender series where the MC turns into a girl and falls in love with a guy are actually a minority. Series with full-time transformations include Artificial Maiden, Boku Girl, Boy Meets Girl Girl Meets Boy, Idol Pretender, Kanojo ni Naru Hi Another, Mao Marimo, Megu Milk, Nozomu Nozomi, Remix Heart and Sekainohate de Aimashou. This includes series where they don't end up with the guy or where the boy in question used to be a girl. The only series I'm aware of where a character who can switch forms shows interest in men are Fukigen Cinderella and Nyotai-Ka and the MC doesn't end up with guys in either of them.
Ai Mai Mist was surprisingly decent. Yumekoi Tensei was pretty good. Sekai wo Seifuku Suru Tame no 3tsu no Houhou was fairly good too.
I didn't like the Futaba series. Good art but loli isn't really my thing and they were nothing but a series of short and simple nukige. Kuru Kuru Coeur didn't hold my interest, though I did go through a couple of routes in it.
As far as translated eroge go of course X-Change Alternative wins practically by default since the original series was pretty bad and practically nothing else has ever been translated.
But I think I'll go with Remix Heart Gaiden as my favorite translated genderbender VN:
The game itself (BlazBlue Chronophantasma Extend) is translated, though it's currently only available on consoles. There is talk that it will go on Steam in January though.
As for what Remix Heart Gaiden is about, it's not a complete story on its own. It's actually two side-stories for the Remix Heart manga that take place between chapters 4 and 5 of that series.
Either fuck off and die or simply leave.
Cutest ship, I don't care if it is dumb, still cute as fuck.
Not a genderbending manga, but I'd moon this pure maiden.
Not yet, but Trump will make anime real
>you're only allowed gender bender if it's yuri fantasy
>you're only allowed gender bender if it's socially progressive psychodrama
No, gender bender is allowed because it is sexy and fun. Stop trying to hijack this outstanding multilevel area of fantasy with your boring themes.
Like, it's not just "You're a girl now. People are picking on you. Bazinga!" It's actually erotic, cool, and the live-translation threads it inspired were like watching WWE.
And the guy who got transformed actually has a personality. Well, then she becomes a moeblob, but that's in keeping with what's going on around her!
I don't want to see a REALISTIC DEPICTION of WHAT WOULD REALLY HAPPEN. I want to read something fun.
I'll look into them but sad to say I prefer watching guys get feminized against their will and end up giving up and dating boys.
The route in Ai Mai Mist where she ends up pregnant with her best friend's baby was my favorite.
What you say describes every eroge in that post. Though of course they have both potential male and female love interests.
Some of the routes in X-Change Alternative 2 were fairly good; others such as the oujou-sama or the iinchou route were pretty bad.
I don't like this turn of events either. I suppose the author had to throw something new in to be able to keep the story going. First he changed Mizuki's setup from being a reverse trap concealing her identity to openly living as a girl. Then he changed it again by having Mizuki switch forms without her being able to control it. I guess it wasn't as ham-fisted as what happened with Ichinensei ni Nacchattara, where near the end of the manga it's obvious that the author ran out of ideas and threw in mecha suits, magical girls and government conspiracies in an effort to keep the series going, which was utterly ridiculous.
I suspect that Boku Girl has been a victim of its own success, since the author feels the need to keep it going without allowing the relationship of Mizuki and Takeru to progress. The story gets padded out instead with the constant introduction of new side-characters. As a result the series has turned into a harem and there is now a horde of both male and female characters who lust after Mizuki.
I was pleasantly surprised when I started reading UQ Holder by the fact that it didn't seem to be a harem, but then of course Ken had to go back to his old habits and throw in a ton of girls who want the MC.
I found Kuromaru was disappointing since it seemed like the character had accepted her feelings and was actually displaying character progression but then in the latest chapter (103) Ken once again did what comes naturally to him and set everything back to the status quo.
Kuromaru was gender neutral for over 100 chapters, goes into girl mode for 2 chapters, and is now back to gender neutral with the possibility of gender change in the future.
Not really. The genderbending element is pretty minor. The MC's sidekick belongs to a species whose sex becomes fixed in puberty and wishes to become a boy, however he wavers between being a boy and a girl due to falling in love with the MC. This however is a minor subplot and not at all the focus of the manga.
Though as a shonen battle series it is pretty good. It has the same gorgeous paneling for action sequences and architecture porn as negima.
Just don't go looking into it as gender bending.
It's OK for a battle shonen, though now Ken is turning it into a harem too. Which I find rather ironic since people used to defend Negima by saying it wasn't Ken's fault that it was a harem but that he was forced by his editors to make it one. Now he has a new series that wasn't a harem and he's turning it into one.
The one game in your post pisses me off to no end. Just seems like lazy writing to have the MC just freaking following some random guy into a hotel, fuck, then never hear from that dude ever again regardless of previous choices.
I don't see why it's bad writing to have the character end up in a one-night stand. Maybe the dude simply wasn't interested in a longer-term relationship.
Allow me to elaborate:
As you may be aware, games have flags. A player may choose these flags to fit his own criteria. In order to prevent the game from expanding exponentially, common points are made. In this case, the MC not being a virgin when the player is now set on a specific route.
In my opinion the game should have handled the scene as part of the "slut" route, and not the common trunk for the otaku friend or the gentleman.
Thus, lazy writing.
It could be considered that this served to show that the protagonist had a pretty strong sex drive in the beginning and could go either way. In some of the routes it subsides and she ends up as a normal girl in a monogamous relationship. In others it's intensified and she ends up as the village bicycle.
Oh no, you misunderstand me. If I feel like reading about a slut or playing the slut, heavens knows that I will. I am simply complaining about INCOSISTENCIES between choice and consequence.
The fact that their "transformations" came about as a result of extensive surgery rather than say magic does raise the squick factor I think.
I think I'll have to disagree with you on that. After all, one is biologically fully female and the other isn't. (Unless you go with something like alien technology which pretty much is equivalent to magic.)
The only one you need is Thy Outward Part. Probably the best Ranma-chan fanfic series to ever have been written. It does not feature Ryouga though.
This scene always stood out to me since they obviously animated Ryoga and Ranma here as a boy and girl interacting, rather than two boys. I mean, this is something different from Ranma's playfulness flirting. They're clear supposed to be acting "naturally" here, in the middle of combat.
Probably out character but it was cute as shit.
Can you imagine if Boku Girl developed like Jitsu wa? You would soon have a superb confession and the start of much cute dating but still get your comedy antics.
> Mizuki flustered over makinf a lovey-dovey bento for Takeru
Pick a ranma there is no wrong choice
Short hair the best
Although I like Ranma 1/2, it is far from being a good gender bending manga/anime. It is a good comedy, a mediocre shounen, and a barely passable TSF one. It is merely played for laughs or blatant fan service.
This was one such major moment in the manga, when Mai realized that she had fallen in love with a boy and stated questioning whethere she was still male in any way. In the original she alternates between "boku" and "watashi" to show her confusion.
Speaking of pronouns, Mai used "boku" before her transformation. Afterward she wanted to conceal the fact that she had previously been a boy and switched to "watashi" instead. When she was having an identity crisis due to feeling that her mind was changing as a result of her transformation she alternated between "boku" and "watashi". Eventually when she accepted herself as a girl she demonstrated it by using "watashi".
Ranma is a gag manga with characters that are complete caricatures and who never show any development. The character relationships are pretty much a joke, with the main romance being something you'd expect from a pair of kindergartners. There is no story progression, and since the manga was 38 volumes long, it gets pretty repetitive (especially towards the end which had long, unfunny arcs quite similar in tone to Inuyasha that were a slog to read).
Ranma was of course very popular and it quite clearly succeeded at being what it set out to be. But calling it "objectively" the best genderbender manga seems pretty silly, especially when the genderbending is such a secondary element.
If one likes Ranma, then Futaba-kun Change is similar in tone and places a greater emphasis on the genderbending aspect. It seemed heavily... inspired by Ranma, but was much shorter, had story development and the character relationships actually evolved over time. The ending was pretty weird, but at least it did have one.
Speaking of Boku Girl. I read it the last two days and liked it. It was cute, gave me boners and the comedy is good. I'm just super confused, did every 6x chapter vanish into the nether?
I wish more gender bender series took themselves seriously. All GB is either played for laughs, or buried in the same four-five cliches like "How do I pee?!", "Wooooh, I can grope my tits!", "P-Periods?", "My male best friend is suddenly so attractive!"
Remix Heart is good, but it feels like it's still lacking something.
Plus, they never explore anything outside of the sexual and physical sphere.
They never go shopping for clothing
unless it's the always unfunny 'I-I have to buy female underwear?!' chapter
They never show how their friendships and relationships change
outside of the ever uninspired 'I'm attracted to my male best friend?!'
There is no difference shown in how they are treated in day to day life by others
unless it's the 'group of guys hits on feMC but male best friend comes to the rescue' chapter
Every GB manga has the same levels of creativity as a douijn, and every time it turns out to be a gag manga or a hentai it feels like being cockblocked. Because as soon as you realize you're in a gag manga you know it's not possible that the hack writer will produce anything of value no matter how many volumes pass, and if it's hentai then it means feMC is just going to suck a billion dicks in a couple pages.
Godddamnit I just want a series about a guy learning how to be a girl and being moderately happy abou it.
I liked Michael Keikaku because the dude spends some time figuring out what being physically a girl means, but then he realizes it's pretty much the same shit and he's still horny as fuck. It's realistically plausible this is how someone would cope with the situation, and that's why I enjoy it as more than just a hentai.
I read that too.
'Old' gender bender seems to be better than what passes for it nowadays, even in hentai.
Nowadays, Ruuen Rouga is pretty much the only h-mangaka who gives a shit about plots and exploring the character's descent into womanhood though.
There a number of H-tankoubon that have a plot of sorts. Michael Keikaku isn't unusual in that respect. Most genderbender porn are one-shots with limited page count, so the author needs to have the characters fucking within a page or two at most. I don't think this is a fair comparison.
And what do you consider good old genderbender series? Most of the serious series I can think of are recent titles. The majority of older series were simple bodyswap or joke manga. One exception might be Boku no Shotaiken, but I have never read past the first chapter of that manga since it's not scanlated past it. (By the way, that manga was rather unusual since it features Hitler as a major character.)
You forgot the "I can't look at myself naked!" cliche. I have to agree that these are pretty tiring, particularly since they tend to make the MC seem like a complete moron. The worst one are the ones with a perverted MC who just heads off to ogle or molest other girls (like in Sora no Otoshimono or Maken-ki).
I agree with the person that mentioned Ame Nochi Hare. The characters switch forms, but it focuses on their every day life. Haikyo Circle might be of interest, though unfortunately almost none of it has been scanlated. Balance Policy was another more serious title, though I didn't particularly like it. Fukigen Cinderella was also more serious and it was unusual in that the MC was an asshole and pretty much insane. Mao Marimo seemed to be more SOL, as was Nozomu Nozomi.
Man, gender bendig works done by fujoshi are so full of rape. It's almost as if all of today's feminist's preaching is nothing more than a big lie.
Generalizations are bad. A number of women like the idea of a handsome dude that they like being forceful in seeking sex. Real rape, e.g. getting ambushed by an unwashed hobo and being raped at knife-point, less so.
I enjoyed 'Asuka Hybrid' even though its translation got dropped, before it got canned.
And 'Akane-chan Overdrive' was really good even if it was more of a bodyswap then actual genderbender.
Also there was a pretty good one where about five kids became girls when it rained, I don't remember its name though.
Watashi is used by men in more formal contexts. So a man might use watashi when talking to someone at work for example. However using it in informal contexts, such as when talking to friends, is seen as feminine. An example of that from anime is Dick Saucer in Dragon Half. He uses watashi when speaking with his king, but switches to boku when he talks to other people.
So Mai using watashi when speaking to her friends is a way in which she tries to make herself seem female. When a magical item causes her to think she's a boy, she reverts to boku.
Dont compare a natural biologically girl, with someone who need to be always taking pills, and has a fake vagina that is considered a wound by the body and needs to be re-opened constantly.
Why live if there is no fanfic or doujishini where Ranma gets stuck as a girl and start to become more girly and fall for Ryoga as time passes?
Here you go, the dialog is a little weeabooish at first, but this is like a 15 year old
It is if Ranma was born as a girl, has pretty much what you asked for.
Never saw anyone that fit that description.
Yeh, there is a lot who pair Ryoga and Ranma, but feel where he becomes a girly girl.
Thanks I will check this out, but instead of Ranma always been a girl, I was thinking on regular Ranma changing personalitty or mind over time or due to magick.
Like on the episode where he got amnesia, or when he got in love with Hyoga on the magick rod charpter.
Ranma was born as ranko in it, but through genma being an idiot she gets turned into a male and genma runs off with him, he thinks he is a guy until his mother shows up. And eventually he remembers some stuff from when he was a girl
A little emo at first, but it does get pretty good.
Ranma gets permenantly stuck as a girl, and slowly falls in love with ranma
Has this been uploaded? I can't find it on any of the usual sources.
All I could find was this, which just has a teaser.
There have been a lot of good gb doujins on sadpanda lately.
God bless Japan.
Would something like a female doppelganger fit this thread?
I don't think so. Those two characters weren't that similar, and both were born in the sex they currently have so there's no genderbending.
>Kanojo ni Naru Hi + Another
Thanks a lot
I'm only at page 24 and this story has already taken a more interesting direction than I've ever read before.
Then again, most of the GB I've seen was hentai, so no story to be expected there.
How is this shoujou though while Hourou Musuko is seinen?
Either am terrible at finding them or your flat out wrong. Most gb series I've found are mc hooking up with a guy. The small list here>>134000837
Is basically all I've found were the mc still has an interest is girls after the change, but there's a lot of the opposite.
Let's compare the numbers on these two lists shall we?
MC is interested in guys: 12
MC is interested in girls: 15
The number is larger in the second category even though I was being generous and including series where the MC is interested in both boys and girls (and where the MC in that situation ends up with a girl) in the first category.
OK. Let's compare those then.
The MC becomes a couple with a guy in Boy Meets Girl Girl Meets Boy (guy was originally a girl), Idol Pretender, Kanojo ni Naru Hi Another and Sekainohate de Aimashou. The MC falls in love with a guy and shows no interest in girls, but doesn't hook up with him, in Artificial Maiden, Nozomu Nozomi and Remix Heart.
Boku Girl could go either way since the MC likes both. Megu Milk has the MC fall in love with a guy who gets turned into a girl. Someone on /a/ said that in Mao Marimo the MC falls in love with a guy but it hasn't been translated so I have no idea how it ends.
The MC is Tsukiyo no Fromage only shows interest in girls. In Asuka Hybrid the MC shows interest in girls (as well as to a trap but that's because he looks like a girl). In Kashimashi the MC hooks up with a girl. Panikuru Iko-san was pretty short but the MC only appeared to like women. Conveni-N also has the MC be in love with a girl and it's implied they hook up.
If we exclude the uncertain and borderline stories, the ratio is 6 to 4. The difference isn't that big.
Technically Boku Girl is a seinen series since it's published in Shuukan Young Jump. And it's less serious than a number of shonen or shojo genderbender stories.
Sure, many chapters of Boku Girl are softcore porn. My point was that you can't judge whether a series is seinen by how maturely it handles the subject matter.
That's hardly an absolute rule though. Ame Nochi Hare is pretty mature and it is a shoujo series. To Love Ru Darkness has a ton of nudity and it is a shonen series.
It requires some intuition to be able to discern them. You'll get it from reading a wide variety of manga. I wasn't telling him specifically what makes a seinen a seinen, I was telling him what makes Kanojo not a seinen.
genderbenders are usually shit tier
shishunki bitter change is pretty alright
I generally prefer cross-dressing/trap manga but it's hard to find one that isn't gay as fuck
pretty face and mint na bokura are two of my favorites
I used to really like Boku Girl but it has become shit ever since MC can switch back to male and there were too many characters introduced that serve no purpose at all.
Fukigen Cinderella was nice but too short and ended abruptly.
Now reading Shishunki Bitter Change. Though I don't like body swap even in gender bender, this has been a good read so far and I like that it doesn't focus on ecchi.
This one. It's about some 30 year old salaryman who makes a wish and suddenly becomes a loli. It's hilarious.
Thank you so much for making me remember it! Haven't thought about it for ages, and there are finally some new chapters to read!
The first two chapters of this were the first things I ever typeset.
MtF are often a little fucked in the head, I wouldn't want to put my dick near that thing, it's just auto repulse. The decision is theirs but from my standpoint you simply can't do surface level changes like that to swap, you'll never be the other sex because it's your fucking DNA, you'll always know you had the change and you're lacking the full body parts (including brain makeup/chemistry/relevant social upbringing as that sex). Yes you can consume various hormones that get you around close the the average brain chemistry but the above still applies, it's a big change rather late in life and you'll always know it just wasn't.
The manga/anime variants gloss over this and just have then as sexually liberal characters, which is to me the idealized version as well. It skips all the real shit they go through and clear indications of surgery and hormones. Also manages to avoid most of the uncanny and horrible looking ones that start way after puberty by making it as idealized as possible.
boku garu's been a fun ride..esp thxs to the LT's.........but ikuya daikokudou's "transformed n2 a bb..........( ya its hentai.. like that's gonna stop /a/ny1 )......great art.....gb+chibi+loli+yuri+ & funny... so funny ...every other page cracked me up so much i couldn't " finish " !
That manga had good art, but I can't say I liked anything else about it. The MC is as stupid as the plot. The only real reason to read it in my view is if someone loves loli fanservice, which gets thrown in by e.g. having the MC need to steal panties from other little girls to sustain his transformed state.
No. Only translated genderbender VNs are the first four X-Change games and these:
Idol Pretender did have good art and I thought that it was alright overall. A pity that the pacing was shot and the author had to wrap it up so abruptly. Would have been better if Chinami hadn't stayed in denial for as long as she did and instead had the relationship progress instead of throwing it in at the last minute.
I also found that the personality of the male love interest and his relationship with Chinami was handled badly; he abruptly went from teasing her and saying he wanted to be with her as a coworker, to saying that he loves her with no change in his behavior in between.
You say lesbians
everyone knows you want big meaty cocks
I thought that he simply wanted to turn the story into a love triangle. Same thing happened to Boku Girl, where the girl that the guy was originally in love with started showing interest in the MC after he got turned into a girl. (Boku Girl at this point is a harem, but the MC is still most interested on on male and one female character.)
I forgot the title, but it was about some space prince that comes to earth looking for a bride because everyone in his planet are assholes. He has an accident on arrival but an earthling sacrifices his life to save his. The prince realize that this is what he is looking for and turns this human boy in to a girl with I guess is space magic or something.
I like this story. Its ending is actually rather dark in a way, but it's not due to sexual stuff or anything like that.
I also find it hard to believe they would just throw Ranma under the bus like that. I mean they are assholes, but I still believe they would still be happy that Ranma is happy. That and all the crossover stuff was distracting as shit. And it feels like with ranma broke his leg that the writer was going to write more but got lazy.
The ending wasn't satisfying of course; the way Ranma and Akane go from a relationship that's essentially that of a pair of preteen siblings to deciding to marry after Ranma sees Akane lying down and says that he loves her while thinking she's dead, and he even tries to take it back after he finds out she heard him, was pretty awful.
But I think that the behavior of the other characters at the wedding made sense, since every character in Ranma (with the possible exception of Kasumi) is either homicidal or insane. If one looks at it seriously, Ryoga for example is a complete psychopath. In the Fishing Pole of Love arc he literally tries to brainwash Akane into falling in love with him, which is the sort of thing you'd expect a villain to do. And then he tries to murder Ranma because he thinks that once Akane learns he has killed him she will immediately fall in love with him. What better way to win a girl's heart than murdering the guy she has feelings for after all? And of course he's also a huge stalker that spends a lot of time in disguise around the girl he likes without her ever knowing, and even bathes and sleeps with her. One can hardly imagine a more flagrant violation of privacy. Another example is Ranma's mother. She's supposed to be really kind, but when she sees her son for the first time in years while he's wearing a skirt the first thing she does is try to decapitate him for not being manly. And the fact she had let her deadbeat husband run off with their child with the agreement that she'd decapitate them if their son wasn't manly made absolutely no sense, especially since she was depicted as a caring individual.
>but I still believe they would still be happy that Ranma is happy.
Spoilers for that fanfic, of course.
It's clearly written under the idea that by the time Ranma's personality is completely changed, it's pretty much not "Ranma" anymore.
Now, this contrasts with the way the narrative goes slowly changing Ranma bit by bit, rather than just a sudden transition from one point to another, but that's still clearly the intention of the author, like shown in several dream sequences. They treat "Ranko" at the end like that because they don't acknowledge her as Ranma, but just a curse that replaced him.
I think that post was about the ending of the fanfic linked there, not the actual series itself.
Fair enough. Personally I don't like it when an MC behaves like a complete moron, so (disregarding all the other elements that weren't to my taste) the way this MC just went along with what this mascot was saying without ever questioning it made me dislike him.
Wow nice recommendations thread you fucking faggot. Why don't you fuck off back to /r/?
You will get there my cute little kouhai
There's a whole lot of stuff listed. I'm assuming these are the best of the genderbender manga, but are any of them good in the context of someone just looking for something good to read instead of being extra fascinated by the idea?
I guess a better way to put it is, are any of these actually good?
Short, and been dead for years, but I like what's there. If I remember right there's kind of a point where it feels like it could work as an ending even though it goes on.
If you want more serious titles there is Ame Nochi Hare. Other titles include Balance Policy, Haikyo Circle and Kanojo ni Naru Hi.
Less serious ones include Mao Marimo, Nozomu Nozomi, Remix Heart andTsukiyo no Fromage.
That's another title I didn't like myself. Too much of a gag manga for my tastes and it felt rather disjointed.
I wonder how loli fans felt about the fact that the MC is literally treated with drugs which cure his pedophilia.
The gag aspects is what actually kept me reading it.
I don't really care about the loli part of it, my favorite transformation is when the dad gender bends the MC.
Thanks for the Ame Nochi Hare recommendation. I started it today and am definitely enjoying it.
I didn't care much for that either to be honest. Nothing came of it beyond the standard "MC turns into a girl, sneaks into the women's bath".
Glad to hear you're enjoying it. It's a series that doesn't really fall into the standard cliches.
too many characters? hardly.
same, though i don't really into this sort of stuff but boku girl is my first venture into gender bendy whatever shit and i'm enjoying it.
Boku Girl keeps introducing new characters who want to fuck Mizuki in an effort to keep the manga going without having to actually resolve the main love triangle or progress any of the core relationships. There's an entire list of characters who serve this purpose, from e.g. the underwear dude that appeared early on to the morals committee member introduced in the latest chapter.