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Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
Early to bed and early to rise probably indicates unskilled labour.
After deciding to take a day a just to do reviews and lowering the new card count to 10 cards a day (It was originally 30), I actually went through all my cards for the first time in a while.
Here are my stats now
I think I'm done for today too, got ~400 reps left
Stop shilling for your shitty Load Balancer program.
Anki's default algorithms are more than sufficient for nicely balancing out your load, assuming you study at a regular rate. All it does is mess with the intervals so words appear too soon or too late for optimal memorisation.
>Anki's default algorithms are more than sufficient for nicely balancing out your load
Yeah they /totally/ help with massive spikes between tomorrow and the day after like are in >>133982383
>All it does is mess with the intervals so words appear too soon or too late for optimal memorisation.
I know exactly what it does and the only place it causes any tangible deviation from the "optimal rep time". Spaced repetition is an approximation and ease is not a rule. Your diet and daily life will affect the optimal timing of your reps much more than load balancer does.
Anki has jitter on intervals by default, you gonna disable that? No. You couldn't even if you wanted to.
Load balancer only comes into play in situations that are bad for your memory in the first place.
>you'll suspend half of your cards
At this point he needs that. Look at his fucking stats. Pathological cases, etc.
It's like 45 cards and today he had to review like 54 and got 50% retention. You think he's gonna do any better next time? At 50% retention he is literally learning *nothing*.
Technically with anki's default ease of 250%, it's 40% retention where you're literally learning nothing.
Of course, anki's retention stat can't go below 50% because it's broken.
>Of course, anki's retention stat can't go below 50% because it's broken.
>Why would Japanese people need to learn Japanese with a bunch of baka gaijin
You are so smart gaijin kun.
Eh, if you hit 2 on new cards they get scheduled for the next day, so it's enough to argue that you "should" only be able to remember new cards until the next day.
It's a matter of opinion and so far detached from the design of anki that it doesn't really matter.
1) New deck
2) Added a junk card
3) Failed it several times. Pattern: Again; Good; Repeat
4) Finally don't fail it
The general retention stat is useless.
Bonus: this is why we say people are lying to anki when they have extremely high learning Correct %s.
>Again; Good; Repeat
In other words you answered this
>Do you remember the card?
>Yes, No, repeat
And you're surprised you get 50% yes and 50% no.
Oh boy, wait until you hear about coin tosses.
The problem is this: The stat stops being about how many cards you remembered from the previous days, and instead starts being about how well you remember cards that are in the relearning phase.
The fact that cards in the relearning phase contribute to the general retention stat is retarded, and the fact that they contribute to the Learning bucket more than once is downright pathological.
The problem is not "wow, this says 50% when I press each thing 50% of the time". The problem is "this says 50% when I keep forgetting a single card."
>general retention stat
I don't think there's such a thing in anki? It only has correct% which is split between new, young and mature. I think you're just trying to read too much into the stats it presents.
Besides, over a large enough sample it doesn't really matter if it's the same card you're forgetting over and over again. The stats simply reflect how often you have to re-learn cards, whether it's the same one or different ones.
>I don't think there's such a thing in anki? It only has correct% which is split between new, young and mature.
> Again count: 4 (55.6% correct)
>I think you're just trying to read too much into the stats it presents.
When the stats are misleading at best and useless at worst, and other people in the thread are actively caring about them with such a misunderstanding, I'm definitely going to "care".
>Besides, over a large enough sample it doesn't really matter if it's the same card you're forgetting over and over again.
If I have 500 reviews a day and it says I'm only remembering 80% of them it had better actually be telling me that I'm only remembering 80% of them rather than some lower amount.
>The stats simply reflect how often you have to re-learn cards, whether it's the same one or different ones.
There is no need to know how often you have to relearn the same card multiple times per day. There is even less than no need for such knowledge to actively interfere with knowing how many cards you actually remember from day to day.
I've been using anki for 10 weeks now, but 5 weeks in I got lazy. Today is the first day since then I have finished all my reps, I swear I'll be back to my daily reps now.
Like I said, the again count simply reflects how often you have to re-learn cards. I asked for a "general retention stat" and you failed to show me one.
Nowhere in that picture does it say "retention".
Just because you want there to be retention stats doesn't mean they are there. If you think the stats displayed by default are inadequate then by all means go ahead and make a plugin to track actual retention. But right now you are effectively eating an orange and claiming it's the worst apple you've had.
>it had better
>There is no need
>even less than no need
>stats are misleading at best and useless at worst
These are your opinions based on an incorrect interpretation of the statistics offered by anki.
>Like I said, the again count simply reflects how often you have to re-learn cards.
I'm very well aware of that. You're preaching to the choir. It's still wrong.
>I asked for a "general retention stat" and you failed to show me one.
In that case the "learning" correct % is not a general retention stat either.
>Just because you want there to be retention stats doesn't mean they are there.
*Everyone* treats it like a retention stat. The interface makes absolutely no elucidation. You're playing word games with me while you know fully well that I understand what I'm talking about. You can wank right off.
>These are your opinions based on an incorrect interpretation of the statistics offered by anki.
I clearly have the correct interpretation of the statistics offered by anki. You're simply upset that I used a word to describe them that you think is wrong. I went out of my way to explain how they work and why this is wrong. You have no reason to be upset other than the fact that I think it's wrong for anki to use these particular stats. The fact that this is how they're implemented is absolutely no justification for it to be that way; that's tautological.
>>stats are misleading at best and useless at worst
This is not an "opinion" based on "incorrect interpretation". It's an opinion based on a *correct and legitimate understanding of what the stats are measuring*.
What learning Japanese for asolute beginners consist of:
Not reading manga
Not reading VNs
Not reading LNs
Memorizing basic vocab
What we discuss here:
Memorizing basic vocab
Offtopic stuff, various arguments
Here's my summary:
He started off by arguing that the statistics themselves were somehow flawed, useless etc. and my counter-argument was that the stats show what they show, how useful they are depends on what you choose to infer from them.
He thinks you should be able to infer some sort of overall retention stat from them. To me that doesn't really make sense in the context of anki, since over time your retention of a deck should converge to 100% anyway. The closest thing would maybe be your overall mature correct% as new/young correct% will fluctuate, and especially the daily correct%.
But if he really wants his retention stat then he's free to make it himself, I don't know how he plans to calculate it and I don't think it would be particularily useful. Apparently that makes me the creator of anki.
>He started off by arguing that the statistics themselves were somehow flawed, useless etc.
In the context of how everyone treats them. Apparently context is what you lack.
>He thinks you should be able to infer some sort of overall retention stat from them.
Because people want it. See: "how useful they are depends on what you choose to infer from them"
>To me that doesn't really make sense in the context of anki
So people are free to want whatever information they want as long as it's what you think they should want?
>since over time your retention of a deck should converge to 100% anyway.
Citation needed, even the supermemo dev isn't this deluded.
>But if he really wants his retention stat then he's free to make it himself
My problem isn't not having a retention stat. My problem is having a combination "relearning efficiency plus general retention" stat. They're completely different information. Mixing them makes it impossible to actually know what your relearning efficiency or general retention for that day actually are. If the stat were actually a relearning stat or a retention stat, that would be fine. Being a "number of times I pressed correct rather than again" stat, as it's implemented, is of no use. People clearly want a true retention stat. That's what they always interpret the existing daily "Correct %" stat as. Every single thread with posts about stats.
1. If you say so.
2. Could very well be.
3. I clearly expressed that it was my opinion, it wouldn't be useful to me personally.
4. No citation needed, the point of anki is obviously to learn all the cards you study. To converge towards 100% doesn't mean you'll ever reach 100%, let me rephrase it in a simpler way. The more you study a deck the more of it you should retain. That's not deluded but I assume you just misunderstood.
5. What you're saying makes some sense, but I don't particularly see the need to split the two because in your overall correct% it's going to average out your relearning efficiency anyway.
What would your proposed retention rate stat even look like? Because to me this:
>relearning efficiency or general retention for that day
Sounds completely meaningless.
Alright so I'm following the anki guide and now it's telling me to extract the core2k-image.munged.rar to the "collections.media" folder.
Is this "collections.media" folder something that's supposed to be there, or do I make it?
>I clearly expressed that it was my opinion, it wouldn't be useful to me personally.
I think it's silly to put things in that order, but it's sensible for you to be conservative on something like this and not just listen to one random person.
>That's not deluded but I assume you just misunderstood.
Let's chalk it up to misunderstanding. I'm sure you have a sensible opinion on it and I really don't want to argue about a detail.
>What would your proposed retention rate stat even look like?
I would probably split the existing stat into one or two that mean something. "Relearning efficiency" would be how many times you lapse relearning cards. "General retention" is how many /reps/ you fail vs not fail. Each of them is at least as valuable as the existing daily "Correct %", since that's effectively a combination of the two (plus some stuff about learning new cards that really does go to zero in large decks)
Because failing reps and lapsing relearning cards are affected by different parts of memory they shouldn't be opaquely mixed into the same stat.
>Each of them is at least as valuable as the existing daily "Correct %"
That's not saying much.
Anyway you want to know the ratio of failed young/mature cards, basically the current correct % without any new cards? That sounds more useful but it's still something that's going to fluctutate a lot and I think the monthly correct % on young and mature cards anki already offers paints a better picture.
Even if it fluctuates a lot, if you're gonna have a daily stat, it should be something that normal people can make sense of. I would be for anything other than the current situation, which is basically a placebo stat that people can't even compare to other peoples'.
Even a daily stat that fluctuates wildly is good for catching pathological stuff. If my monthly retention is 95% and one day I have 40% retention, I *really* want to know that.
Can anyone help me translate this sentence? Not sure if Google Translate is correct
Is "Japanese" a fucking noun?
I see Japanese people use this all the time and I always let it go because I thought it was just their shitty grammar.
But now I see regular english speakers saying things like "Let's ask a Japanese"
Shit doesn't sound grammatically correct at all.
>the plural form of an adjectives
Sorry, meant an adjective used as a noun then made plural.
The singular also works but only refers to one object. "This japanese". "These japanese". "This red". "These reds".
Isn't the new one just a remake of the older ones?
Something wrong with Crystal? I tried watching Tutu a few years ago and didn't find it interesting back then
Hard to find those without just rewatching something good
It's for listening practice obviously
>tfw completed and understood my first manga without any help
>less than a month until some of the anime from current season end
It's like a christmas present from Japan every year
I'm sorry, I typed out this question while still not having read the whole thread and did not know someone already asked this question this thread. Be that as it may I would still appreciate some responses to gauge what people usually do.
It's a nice healthy amount. Not so much that the reviews start killing your reading time, but also enough that you feel like you're making significant progress every day.
It used to be 25 (also a healthy amount), but anki reviews get easier the further in you go, since you're dealing with a decreased number of unfamiliar kanji, even many of the kanji that you don't know are leaving hints about their reading and meaning that you can recognize, and your brain is more used to memorizing Japanese words. I was starting to finish up so quickly and easily that I never felt like I was done with my reps at the end. I might actually give 35 a shot before long, although 30 feels like a sweet spot for the time being.
20 is the minimum moderate pace. you should absolutely do at least 30 if you can handle it. the absolute bare minimum you should do even if you have the worst memory in the world and can't handle the reps is 10.
Hm, okay, thanks. Good to get a picture of what's typical. I'll try for more than that when I start but if my retention becomes awful I'll turn down the heat a bit.
>the absolute bare minimum you should do even if you have the worst memory in the world and can't handle the reps is 10.
I'd say 20. Any slower than that, and you're crawling. Learning Japanese is a big task, You have to pick up the pace if you want to achieve your goals in this lifetime.
If your memory sucks shit, you should try to think about how you might help it. I know that it's frowned on here, but seriously, give RTK or Kanji Damage a look to give you a boost with the kanji. If you've finished a grammar guide, don't wait until you have 3000 words under your belt to start reading. If you haven't finished a grammar guide, then go finish a grammar guide. If you're sleeping too much or too little, fix that. Try exercising to get that blood flowing into the brain. If you find that you study better at certain times of the day, make sure that you study there. If you're missing days, then stop missing days. Basically, don't just accept that your memory sucks shit and there's nothing that you can do about it, because there probably is something that you can do about it.
This figure seems inaccurate, as it would estimate a five-year-old to have a 10,000 word vocabulary, a six-year-old a 20,000 word vocabulary, etc. Being that as it may I think it is possible to do more than that. Not sure about 100/day though. Perhaps if you were a NEET.
Generally people don't think about SRS systems and think of the word "remember" as meaning 100% retention with rote memorization, each day. Obviously with review one can exceed this figure, though.
Finally finished my Core5k deck. I was really starting to burn out, so I'm glad it is finally over. Going to take a break for a few weeks to get the review count down then start on the DOJG deck. I will probably have to create a mining deck too.
Pyramid schemes are the best thing ever. Like, because of the way the network constantly expands you're guaranteed to get more money out then you put in, so it's basically free money for everyone involved. Such a great idea.
My point is that a lot of people are dipshits who are quick to surrender when problems arise. You really shouldn't assume that you're inherently stunted when it comes to comes to language learning until you've put a sustained effort into improving your retention. Sustained = you don't just try it a few times, think that it's hard, and decide that you just can't do it.
Also, I'd say that the worst case scenario would be zero, or at least less than one word per day. I couldn't see my mentally disabled relative who can't even read in English and who says "aaaaah" a lot when trying to express the exceedingly simple and short-sighted thoughts that go through his brain ever learning a foreign tongue. My hypothesis on it is that if you can speak and read fluently in your native tongue, you have the mental faculties to do a decent job at learning a foreign tongue, provided the right study methods. This possibly excludes people who've fried their brains via drug abuse, and obviously excludes people with dementia or any other mental disability that completely prevents them from focusing their efforts.
>If you've finished a grammar guide, don't wait until you have 3000 words under your belt to start reading.
I was going to do Core 6k before I started reading. Why is this necessarily a bad idea? Wouldn't it be good to jumpstart my vocabulary so I could at least somewhat understand stuff before I started reading things? Should I just do Core 2k to start?
Hate to break it to you, but you've never really read hanahira if you only knew 200 words. You just kind of looked at a text hooker and formed a vague idea of what was happening. That's not reading.
I get that you're joking but I am 600 kanji into RTK 1 and am going to finish it before I do anything else. I have to do it for my own sanity. (Not RTK 3 because that would be silly at a beginner level.) I have to do it because kanji just look like chicken scratch to me otherwise.
Kids learn words at rate that's somewhere between 12 and 20 words a day for a while. Regardless, no one here wants to spend 16 years to learn the language, so that speed's just not going to cut it.
Reading and anki compliment each other. You'll find that your retention rates in anki will go up, and that you'll gain a grasp on how the word is actually used. Not to mention hitting easy on shit that you learn while reading, and actually, you know, learning how to read. No matter how much you review a grammar guide, you'll still have grammar issues that you need to work out, and lots of intuition to build.
After you finish Core, you'll want to transition into your mined decks immediately, assuming that you aren't doing mined + Core alongside each other before then.
>Using a dictionary tool means that you're not reading!
By this logic, you're not reading at all until you never have to use a dictionary.
Memorizing any new kanji with mnemonics. Discerning similar kanji through their radicals. Basic conceptual meaning of a kanji. Not forgetting small elements of the kanji, like dots or small dashes.
>By this logic, you're not reading at all until you never have to use a dictionary.
No, you're just being an autist and using a black-white fallacy. I don't know when it actually does become "reading" but it sure as hell isn't when you only know 200 words.
It assigns a keyword to each kanji (usually a primary/secondary meaning of said kanji) and has you create a mnemonic story to remember that keyword by using the sub-elements of said kanji for later recognition. >>133993907 explains it well.
I looked at some vocab decks. There is no way in hell I could learn vocab without doing RTK first. Each kanji would just be a bunch of random lines and dashes to me and I would never be able to reproduce them, especially as each kanji got more complex. RTK can make even kanji with a lot of strokes simple to remember.
I think many people on DJT hate it because it's not "real" Japanese, which is true, I suppose, but it builds a super helpful scaffolding to learn vocabulary and recognize kanji when you see them.
make a spreadsheet, save it to csv (actually tabs not commas) and import with the settings that prevent duplicate cards. You can also quickly update definitions on old words this way if you use the right import settings.
Oh great, I will open a book written in Japanese and just start reading while only knowing the kana, not recognizing or understanding any kanji, not knowing any vocabulary, and having no knowledge of grammatical concepts. Sounds like a swell idea.
>look at written words
>consider definition and grammar rules (looking it up if you have to)
>use your findings to attempt to understand the writer's purpose
The reason why you can't figure out when it becomes reading is because you're trying to figure out when reading becomes reading, dumbass.
I'm not saying that you don't begin in a fog, making ridiculously stupid mistakes and getting things wrong. However, reading incorrectly is still reading, and only through reading incorrectly do you eventually reach a point where you get it right.
Drats, I only have one.
Is this like the "Ecce Romana" books they use for learning Latin where you're given passages, the vocab to read them, and occasionally grammar rules or are you talking more like >>133994359 ?
For someone to eat so incorrectly that they fail to eat then need to fail to swallow any food.
For someone to read so incorrectly that they fail to read then they need to fail to understand anything.
Now, I haven't gotten very far learning Japanese, so my opinion here is truly shit, but from my perspective wouldn't engaging the language in a way that's like reading actual text be a good way to learn? What makes it shit?
Once you have the basics from something like Tae Kim (should only take about as long as learning kana), sure. See a word, a kanji, a grammatical concept you don't understand, look it up. After a while you'll find you remember them and don't need to look so many things up anymore. It's slower than Anki, but considerably more enjoyable.
I bought these when I was a beginner. The only bad thing about them were the outrageous price,
but I had a job at the time so I didn't care.
Absolutely, they were excellent for that. I don't regret it.
Just suck it up and find something that you'll actually want to get through. One of the biggest boons of reading is that it can easily become something that you WANT to do. Reading is fun, and when you're having fun, you retain what you see better, and you can go at it for longer.
I'd say that Flyable Heart was a good throwaway work for ironing out the biggest mistakes in my grammar. It's not great, but there's enough there that you're not bored, and the writing is such that mistakes don't really cause you to completely lose track of the story. Generally, the only thing that you'll miss is a stupid joke.
How am I supposed to remember a kanji just from searching it up and looking at it for a bit? 木, sure. 願, no. I am going to need something else. People like >>133994689 decry RTK universally just because they don't like it personally, even though it has helped thousands of people out learning the language.
You're right, it's a terrible idea. You should definitely revise words out of context by repeating English definitions as they appear at set intervals every day for several months before reading anything.
Hell, why even read Tae Kim first? Doing absolutely anything before reading is a dumb idea. Even learning kana before reading is a dumb idea. You should just start reading immediately. As soon as you see a kana you don't understand, you can then look it up. After a while you'll find you remember them and don't need to look so many things up anymore. It's slower than realkana, but considerably more enjoyable. Reading first without doing any preparation for reading is brilliant.
How do people go about learning Japanese without doing RTK? Do you still use an anki deck for kanji while ignoring all the stories and mnemonics, or do you forgo all that entirely and just study vocab and memorize what the words look like?
I'm still pretty early on and I'm trying to learn kanji (with some radicals beforehand; not planning on doing RTK) before doing vocab. Not really sure if it's a great method so far. The words I recognize the best are the ones I see in grammar guides and pick out while watching anime.
I just went through a list of every single joyo kanji. No concepts, no meanings, no readings, no nothing. Just the character. Sixty characters a day. Read the wiktionary articles on every single one. Used a real textbook typeface, not a mincho or gothic one. No spaced repetition. No attempt at memorization. No rote techniques. No mnemonics. No writing. Only mild textual studitude.
I don't know each of the joyo kanji, but I sure as hell don't see a blob of a shape with no meaning, and my memory is definitely associating the meanings and pronunciations of words with the actual characters, not their "shape". This is much, much more than I could do before piledriving the joyo kanji.
Sure, remembering 願 out of context might be difficult, but if you see a cute anime girl say お願い several times, it shouldn't take long for you to be able to read it fine. This is exactly the problem with RTK - trying to remember 願 by itself, when for reading, it's a useless skill.
The term "to eat" refers to the act of placing food in your mouth, chewing, and swallowing. One wouldn't normally call it eating if you simply placed the food in your mouth and chewed, as the swallowing into your digestive system is the part that truly begins the process of turning the food into nutrition.
The term "to read" involves looking at written words, considering the definition, using the supplied grammar to piece them together, and then *attempting* to understand the writer's meaning. Even between two native speakers, the attempt in the last step is often unsuccessful.
For example, see this post: >>133992015
He did not understand the message of the poster that he was responding to. Are you now going to try to claim that he did not read the post of the person that he responded to, but rather, read it incorrectly, which is different from actually reading?
Even the the definition that I supplied is probably over-stringent for what would qualify as reading. If all you read were the first two words in my post, it would be perfectly valid to say that you "read the first two words in my post". If you did it using a dictionary, that would still be a valid statement. You don't even need to understand where I was going with it in order to have read them.
I don't have the means to do so.
~$340 AUD. I didn't buy level 0. Pic is a page from level 1. I can't imagine how basic and pointless level 0 is.
The total collection on the website is $422. I sure did have money to waste.
They're in my box that I use as a footrest.
What's short-sighted is thinking you will need writing. For anything. It's on the way out already and has been for years, and the only way that trend will change is if civilization collapses.
At what point did you start learning vocabulary, though, and how?
It seems like adding spaced repetition and some amount of reading to what you did would make it a lot more effective. How much did the wiktionary articles help? That's mostly for etymology, right?
>This is exactly the problem with RTK - trying to remember 願 by itself, when for reading, it's a useless skill.
I think this is really closed-minded. For you it may be useless but for me it is not. Taking two months to do RTK makes vocab possible for minds like mine. Also, using your method, if you ever want to recreate it by actually writing it then you are buttfucked. You may be able to recognize the general shape of it for reading, but "recognizing the general shape" of 2000+ characters is an awful task.
I used spaced repetition for vocab since two months before I did that. Doing that only took one month and my spaced repetition retention (= reps correct / reps due) skyrocketed.
Doing spaced repetition for the characters themselves turned out to be unnecessary for my purposes because I only wanted better retention. I didn't try to memorize anything, just learn.
>How much did the wiktionary articles help? That's mostly for etymology, right?
They seemed to help quite a bit. They were my context, rather than the concepts or mnemonics you would otherwise try to memorize. Think AJATT's "massive context cloze deletion cards", except, without the weight of flashcards, spaced repetition, or misleading context weighing it down. It made my brain get used to kanji on a deep enough level to be useful.
The etymology was quite useful because I got used to seeing how the common components are used and for the ones I don't remember the information is locked away in my head somewhere waiting to be associated again.
Ok thanks for that, hopefully they are worth it for you.
I have got a few of the books that had been scanned saved on my computer(including your pic) and I would say that the audio does help, even if you listen to them just once. I try and read aloud with the voice at the same speed
Well, whatever, regardless of whether you know that emoticon's origin or not, this discussion is pointless. It just sounded like a strange way to put it. Let's stop talking about irrelevant things and get back to Japanese.
They were definitely worth it for me since I was really stuck at the time and they got me out of my slump.
Come to think of it, I recall that I did rip all the audio files at one time. If I find the time (and the files) I might upload for whoever finds use out of them.
It's easy to get away with torrenting things that aren't movies in the west for some reason.
If you're in japan you just need a foreign VPN that properly encrypts your traffic. Oh, and don't let anyone know that you're a filthy criminal pirate, or let people access your computer, of course.
its not a random reader, the files are a few of the books from what the guy who posted bought
his picture comes from 1.1
I can't believe there are at least two people here who can't read a simple children's book. If you're learning japanese and you're still at such a level, what the fuck are you even doing in this thread?
I'm thankful for having enough time to study this interesting language.
I'm thankful for the motivation to carry on learning every day, even when I don't feel like it.
And I'm thankful for DJT and all of the amazing resources available to us for learning Japanese, many of which weren't even available just ten years ago. We have amazing opportunities here.
Goodnight people, and happy Thanksgiving to those of you living in the best country on Earth.
And everywhere else, too.
I'm not 100% sure but I think it means
"that person couldn't believe i did that thing", as in she did something and told someone, and they wouldn't believe her.
Your word of the day is 文脈, post it motherfucker.
In any case >>133996574 is wrong, the って is the quoting particle here, there's no たって.
Holy fuck hahaha, I read this exact graded reader like 6 months ago when I was just starting out.
If you can't read this you are seriously fucked, you literally know less Japanese than someone in a 100 level college class.
I know that bowl anon, you're not fooling me.
easy baby text with audio:
>have a headache
>have no energy
>your skin will hate you
>your body in general will hate you
>most importantly for Japanese learning, both focus and memory suffer
Sleep is important, anon, especially for people with any sort of goal. You should lay down at the same time every day, and wake up at the same time every day. When it's time to go to sleep, get your ass in bed. Aim for eight hours of sleep. Ideally, you'll get no less than seven and no more than nine. Managing your body in order to create the ideal learning environment is just another piece of discipline to practice on your road to learning Japanese.
It forces you into an actual test environment and it costs fuck all. There is a world of difference between "testing" your ability from the comfort of your room, alone, and testing it sorrounded by others in a real world setting.
Language is a social tool at the end if the day.
Whats everyone reading?
Im currently 8 volumes into magi but im probably not going to finish it cause its slowly became shit
>Pantsu yori nakami misero fuck
Man, they have best pantu threads.
If everyone here used the DoJG deck as people use the Core recommend decks, a good 90% of the grammar issues and arguments would likely die out. It should be recommended in the guide and linked either alongside or instead of the Japanese grammar guide on Tae Kim's website. Clearly that guide doesn't cover nearly enough nuance in everday Japanese that the DoJG deck and related volumes do, in depth.
There are a bunch of posts on the djt site comments section that haven't been responded to by the people managing it. Wasn't the CoR dude looking after that? He seemed on top of things.
I tried watching じょしらく yesterday cause I remembered I had dropped it on account of it being so Japanese that half of the jokes had to be reinvented by the fansubbers. Things went surprisingly well, though I can't say I got every single joke.
>You also can't use ある, いる, and 要る in the ～ている form at all. The same can be said with potential forms of verbs (e.g., 話せる).
Wait, you can't have a potential verb in the て form? Is this wikibooks shit true?
Wow, that was nostalgic. I had forgotten how many people had flipped their shit over other people telling them Joshiraku was shit unless you knew a lot of Japanese and Japanese culture.
The only reason Japan isn't a post-Soviet shithole today is because America nuked it.
Prove me wrong.
Recently finished all scanned volumes of 働かないふたり. It's pretty funny at times, super easy read. I like it so far. Think now I'll pick up where I left off on みつどもえ or start reading 月詠 or maybe がっこうぐらし.
Got a ps2 emulator working.
What are some good vns to download?
What if you don't want to read interesting, compelling content, or what seems to you to be interesting, compelling content just yet, for fear of ruining it for yourself? Interesting, compelling content is a limited commodity right.
>89,5% correct for mature cards
Stop hitting the easy button, use "difficult" more often for Young cards. It's pretty obvious many of your cards are going from "Young" to "Mature" when they're not supposed to.
Make each second count. Feel free failing cards, you're not supposed to get them all.
I don't know what you're trying to learn so I'll just write what I did.
Since my main concern is reading/listening I use a recognition deck. The first thing I see when I'm doing my reps is the word. If I didn't get it right away I look at the clozed sentence for clues. If I still didn't get it I look at it more closely for a second then I restudy it if I feel the need to. Set a personal time limit where you'll end the rep. Mine's at 4 and I never reach it because I'll either get the answer before that or I'll just decide that further thinking won't miraculously bring be answers.
If I remember correctly 80-85% on mature is the recommended stat and outside of that you're wasting time on reviews. If you're scoring on the high end you can hit the easy button more often, learn more new cards to bring, or adjust the ease settings.
if I fuck up a card should I stay on it for half a minute and keep repeating it to try and remember it or should I only repeat it once and move on
how do you deal with hard to remember cards
Think a little about it: newspapers are confined to a certain set of kanji, contain commonly used language, and are heavily archived for easy and free access. If they were to do that with literature it would have to be non-copyright content. Most of that content isn't really at all reflective of either modern Japanese or of a defined kanji usage. Practically speaking a corpus of language from newspapers is going to be a lot more practical than a corpus of language from 青空文庫.
You can use your own corpus if you have the data. An individual isn't limited by the red tape of legality that companies are.
This looks much better than some newspaper and wasn't hard to find either.
Google has plenty of books and other shit in their little archive.
Fuck that, I'm already wasting enough time on my reps.
>Google has plenty of books and other shit in their little archive.
Did they when the corpus was originally compiled? You seem to think that a company is allowed to act as an individual. Japanese bureaucracy is pretty famous for a reason.
>This looks much better than some newspaper and wasn't hard to find either.
>Release Date: April 16, 2009
smart.fm's Core program was created prior to this, mate.
How much of google's books both contemporary and in text format?
There's a frequency analyzer program available on the net. Pair that up with the various text format moe novels and you'll get your chuuni wincest vocab.
I think anon just wants to bitch about something. Same with retards like >>134001291
They'll be in for a rude shock when they start reading native material if they are under the assumption these sorts of terms are uncommon or useless.