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If you give up, it means you never wanted it.
What sort of loser sticks around in a beginners language learning thread when they've been studying for more than four years?
That would be fucking pathetic, like going back to the fifth grade when you are a year ten student.
>tfw you can understand chinese
holy mother fuckin shit senpai
I can navigate various Chinese sites when looking for things to download but for the life of me cannot pronounce the hanzi/words. Always muddle up 2nd/3rd tones. Chinese people don't seem to give a shit about tones at all; they slur more than drunk Japanese おじいさん.
>I only have short spans of free time
So use Anki and problem solved.
I wish 4chan had a feature which forced posts to be read out to the poster before they went through. Maybe then you'd realise how tragic you are. /a/ has long since separated from anime/random. That is, you don't have to act like a clown here in order to fit in.
>I wish 4chan had a feature which forced posts to be read out to the poster before they went through. Maybe then you'd realise how tragic you are. /a/ has long since separated from anime/random. That is, you don't have to act like a clown here in order to fit in.
Right back at you.
Why don't translators just use "H" instead of "ecchi"? Isn't it the same thing considering japanese are literally pronouncing "H", even using katakana to spell it out. And "H" is short for "H"entai which I'm sure anyone should know if they've involved themselves with this media long enough.
Make a proper poll you fucking idiot. Someone who's been studying for 1 day fits into every single one of those categories. Is English your 15th language?
>franchise you really like
>avoiding new entries because your vision for watching/playing/reading them does not involve English, and you want to get good enough that you can relax and enjoy
>eventually wind up behind the times; fucking everybody watched/read/played it a long time ago
I must have five or so of these by now.
At least I've been feeling super motivated these past few days, and have gotten a lot of reading done. I might actually finish a visual novel sometime within the next couple of months.
After this week I'll have reviewed every vocab word and grammar point on my lists for N3. What should I do afterwards? I'm planning on just reading through NHK easy articles and watching the videos that come with them for listening practice.
Tests everything from Pre Level 1
Ability to read and write 6000 kanji
Tests special or unusual kanji readings
Tests place and country names
Tests “the ability to recognize relationship between modern and ancient or old character forms”
Also, I'm still at a point where I sometimes can't follow the conversation 100%. I ran into one part today where I'm still not even sure how the conversation went where it did. Admittedly, I'd been reading for hours, and was getting kinda tired.
Basically, if I'm really looking forward to something, I don't want to spend the entire time looking up words, and I don't want it dotted with issues like that. Especially since most of them are going to be more plot-driven than moege, and failing to understand one back and forth exchange could have bigger consequences than just missing a joke.
What? Most japanese people spend their whole lives studying just the first 2,000 Kanji, what kind of superhuman native amphetaNEET can learn three times that?
You forgot these:
>an 80% score is required for levels 2, pre-1 and 1
>level 1 is so difficult that fewer than two thousand people take it each time it is offered, and fewer than 15% of those pass
I don't get why 2ch is so hard when novels are so easy
After a certain point it becomes impossible to be satisfied with just porn and games. Every bit of Japanese you don't understand will be a prickling thorn of irritation, glaring evidence of your own inadequacy. In order to learn enough Japanese to understand porn, you must first allow yourself to be engulfed in the language, what was first merely a means to an end becomes the end itself, having stared upon the abyss of language it will be inevitable that you are consumed by it yourself. There is no finding satisfaction in imperfection and inadequacy. There is only a drive for improvement within the language.
Eh. The kanken tests stuff you never see outside of it so it is not really something that will drive you to improve. For example, 2ch and the newspaper and whatnot just has normal Japanese, so there's a drive to learn it, to know Japanese. There is no drive to learn obscure, unused kanji in the kanken, just as there is no real drive to learn obscure English words that one never sees.
>being able to watch Japanese TV
This is the best feeling.
Hamada Bamyu Bamyu looks like it's really taking off this time around, too. I was pretty shocked to see 600k views for the latest single in a day.
Please choose the more likely scenario:
1) You know enough Japanese TV shows to call all of it retarded while backpedalling on certain good shows.
2) You do not know enough Japanese TV shows and are therefore ignorant of many good ones and therefore call it all retarded.
Anime tends to be good, there's plenty of seinen manga and plain good manga in general, Japanese TV has some nice shows, video games are for all ages, Japanese novels are no more the same than novels of any language tend to be
>why are you people learning japanese?
To increase chances of fucking Japanese girl.
>working in Japan
>lol enjoy the soulless life of a Japanese salaryman
Where you make a mistake:
>implying that these are all the same person
Obviously, if you're here, you have SOMETHING that you want out of Japanese.
You do need to watch a lot of shows and be informed
Someone turning on "English" television and seeing Jersey Shore-type reality shows, is not someone who should be talking about all English television as a whole, likewise, a gaijin going off variety television shouldn't talk about all of Japanese television.
>>anime is shit!
>>manga is for children!
The great majority of them, they're also shit
>>japanese TV sucks!
>>video games are for manchildren!
Depends, there are many games an intelligent adult can enjoy.
Of course. they don't tend to be Japanese.
>>japanese novels are all the same!
>This guys does writing drills
I will no longer doubt.
I remember some dumb feminist landwhale trying to claim that it was sexist to learn a language in order to stand a better chance at fucking their women.
Her reasoning, when confronted about being so hateful towards men and male sexuality that she has a problem with men even doing so much as seeking out ideal partners? According to her, "learning the language so that you can actually communicate with them" is the same as "feeling that they have an obligation to fuck you". Also, she assumed that he was unattractive, and that the only thing that he should be working on is the gym (yeah, don't bother learning her language, just take your pants off and hope that she gets the message; that'll go over well).
She was extremely stubborn about this, too, even when I pointed out that the poster that she was responding to initially said nothing to indicate that he felt that he was entitled to Japanese pussy regardless of their opinions, and only said that he was learning Japanese because he wanted to fuck them, which is a rational course of action if you're looking for consensual sex.
Goddamn, I hate feminists. "I don't hate men, or treat men like rapists by default" my ass.
Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
The single only half-decent JRPG series left that is popular both in the west and east is filled with that garbage,
Ni No Kuni was very relaxing and homely, definitely no dumb chuuni shit.
Dragons Crown was raw fantasy.
Ys 1&2 Chronicles / Memories of Celceta- enough said
FFXIV may as well be a WRPG
Does Monster Hunter/Soul Sacrifice count?
Crimson Shroud was an okay E-shop game
Persona 4 Golden didn't have much chuuni
Nippon Ichi games: Legasista, Disgaea 5, etc
The Last Story is a good wii game I hear
And these are just more well known games. Genius of Sappheiros, for example.
Don't be pedantic
Of course is this also overlooking the fact that the most "real" JRPGs are on snes, and most of those are just standard brown-haired nameless protags trecking through a dragon quest-esque world (link lufia 2) so I don't know why the limit of past 3 years was desired.
If we look at it from Mr Pedantic's viewpoint, I imagine a ~JRPG~ has to be turn based for whatever the fuck reason, so yeah of course it's dead, turn based is archaic as absolute shit and not nearly as enjoyable as any real time system. No argument here. Only thing I disagree with is the absolutely unfounded, absolutely stupid viewpoint that JRPGs are all anime pretty boys that are vampire chuuni edgelords with 10000,0000 chakras or whatever. It's /v/-tier bias with very little basis in any actual games. If you actually play JRPGs you'll find most protagonists to be just normal RPG dudes. Like Chronos from Chono Trigger, the Firion from FF2, etc etc.
I won't push the subject, he was the one who brought up the pedantic argument of JRPG vs WRPG. For me, if it's an RPG made in Japanese that's enough for it to be a JRPG. Going any deeper than that starts to violate intersubjectivity and leads it into a pedantic argument with no real value. I only said FFXIV may as well be a WRPG because the character designs were very western, nothing to do with gameplay.
The distinction between WRPG and JRPG was first made when the west was heavily influenced by DnD, leading to games like Wizardy, while Japan was heavily influenced by Dragon Quest (itself a derivative of wizardy). At this point the terms no longer hold much meaning because clearly 3d action games are not like dnd or DQ at all.
2016 is looking like a particularly good year for home console JRPGs:
- Final Fantasy XV
- World of Final Fantasy
- Kingdom Hearts 2.8
- Dragon Quest XI
- Nier Automata
- Star Ocean 5
- Valkyria: Azure Revolution
- Tales of Berseria
- Persona 5
>- Nier Automata
Oh shit, the original Nier was fucking great. Still listen to dat OST
I guess no matter how tough Japanese gets, I'll always have the pride of learning all Jouyou kanji in 1 year whereas natives took 14 or however many.
>narrator uses 私
>and, I think not saying goodnight and the sleeping event もなー
What is the point of "もなー" here? She was just previously talking about "getting passionate about" a game last night.
I don't mind Yuuna being posted every thread because the more times I see a picture of Yuuna each day the better, but I feel the "shitposting" bit is too negative for Yuuna's image. Can you replace it with something more positive and uplifting, more like what you had back when you started?
>order 80€ game from Japan to Europe
>they know I have to pay a huge amount of taxes if it's over a certain price range, and that it'll come to me 1 week later because of going through customs
>they wrote value 20€ on the package so I don't have to go through any of that shit
why are Japanese people so nice?
>majority of words that really get nailed down to the point where I'll never forget them at least had some support from anki; for example, couldn't remember 携帯 for the life of me until I started running into 帯 in Kore
>on the flip side, there are words in anki that I know that I would be getting wrong if I hadn't spent some time reading every day for the past week
You really do need to do both at once, if your schedule allows for it.
Love how so many Japanese insults, etc. involve food. Not sure if this is remotely accurate, but if it is, it's kind of a brilliant insult. http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q138968988
That isn't hypocrisy because the post was fine. If it was a stupid post, it would be hypocritical. Calling out stupid shit isn't the same as posting stupid shit, anon.
Anki is designed to remind the user of facts just before they slip out of memory so it is kind of a strain to only use Anki to keep them fresh in your memory. Skipping reviews in Anki is like letting things slip out of memory and failing to find -in the context of vocabulary- the facts in their natural context frequently enough is like pushing that "reviewing just prior to forgetting" further on the knife edge of memory.
It's more accurate to say that there are nice people everywhere. There are assholes everywhere, too.
I've known some very nice Muslims.
These people create a trap that's easy to fall into if you don't know a lot about the world at large, aren't very bright, and have been taught that you're supposed to be blindly tolerant towards certain things and are looking to have this belief validated: Meeting nice Muslims acts as proof to them that Islam isn't inherently bad, and that the people who reject Islam are simply blinded by hate. What they fail to realize is that their favorite bit of reasoning doesn't only apply when it leads to acceptance. This small handful of people does not represent the oppressive reality brought about by the teachings of Islam across the world, where drawings are banned, most music is banned, women wear burkas and aren't allowed to be educated, people who abandon Islam are executed, women are punished for being raped, non-Muslims pay a non-Muslim tax, and gays are executed, all of this enforced by sharia law. Rather, these American Muslims represent a comparatively tiny group of outlier Muslims in a group of countries where Islam doesn't hold any real power... yet. If we let this growth fester, I can guarantee you that most of its non-Muslim defenders will not like the effect that it has on the western world.
ayone could explain me why the kanjis for the US are 米国? it amuses me that call the US as the Country of Rice
米国 isn't really used in modern Japanese that much. It's used mostly in official documents or news. Modern Japs just call it アメリカ.
Also, does that dog have a
BONEto pick with me?
I was about to say that I can't focus with music going, but then I remembered that I do that all time with VNs.
Then I was going to say that I can't focus with music that isn't really meant to take up all of the listener's attention, such BGMs, but then I remembered that VNs have BGMs that can and do catch my attention.
So, I guess I just don't listen to music while studying due to the misconception that I can't focus while listening to music.
I think the important thing to note is that Islam is, by its very teachings and essence, a religion of hate, destruction, discrimination and violence. It may be true that many peaceful and kind Muslims exist, but that's because they choose to ignore or willfully misinterpret the teachings of Islam which contradict their own conscience, not because Islam itself is a religion of peace. Therefore it's perfectly valid to criticise Muslims as a whole, and dispense with the "but there are plenty of nice ones" crap.
I unironically agree with all of that
I still enjoy video games though, even if they are for manchildren. At least there's an active component to them.
Unlike cartoons and comic books which are passively shit.
As for the novels. I'm sick and tired of them being focused on people, rather than ideas or events. They're like fucking JDramas (which are shit) in written form
The exact same could be said about every major Abrahamic religion because their holy books are basically: the jews wrote it, the heretical jews made a spin off and became christians, then later the arabs adapted the source material and founded Islam.
All of which has nothing to do with /a/ or learning Japanese.
You unironically agree with meaningless wide generalisations?
>You unironically agree with meaningless wide generalisations?
I bet you also think Muslims aren't terrorists and that we shouldn't stop refugees just because of the actions of "some" of them.
Has anyone taken the W10 upgrade? How is it once you disable the privacy stuff? Is it still too intrusive? Are chiitrans lite and the VNs you've tried working fine?
I'm likely going to upgrade my main PC to W10, but I'm considering keeping my laptop on 8.1 if 10 has too many compatibility issues with Japanese software & Japanese learning tools.
>How is it once you disable the privacy stuff?
>he thinks he can disable the botnet
I did the test 6 months ago and got 302.
Grammar score increased by 6, all other scores dropped 1 point.
Also, many of the questions were the same as last time.
>This small handful of people does not represent the oppressive reality brought about by the teachings of Islam across the world, where drawings are banned, most music is banned, women wear burkas and aren't allowed to be educated, people who abandon Islam are executed, women are punished for being raped, non-Muslims pay a non-Muslim tax, and gays are executed, all of this enforced by sharia law.
This was true of Christianity once too, but isn't anymore. Correlation is not causation.
每天都有许多计算机用户使用一个被改动过的GNU 系统 (18k 字节)，但是他们并没有意识到它。 经过一系列的事件，现在被广泛使用的 GNU 版本则经常被称作“Linux”，可是许多用户并不了解与之相关的 GNU 工程。
Linux 确实存在；它是一个内核，许多人都在使用它。但是你不能仅使用内核本身。内核只有作为整个系统的一个部分才有用处。Linux 是和 GNU 操作系统结合在一起使用：系统本身是 GNU，与 Linux 作为内核一起工作。
许多用户没有并不完全了解 Linux 内核和被称作“Linux”的整个系统的区别。而不加区别地使用这个名字并不能对理解有帮助。
何このパッケージ… まさか、噂のｃｏｍｐｅｌｌｉｎｇ ｃｏｎｔｅｎｔと言うやつだと？！
Is the reason that Yuropoor languages (excluding English, obviously) have so little compelling content because most of the musicians and other creative types from those countries make their songs and such in English instead of their own languages, presumably for the sake of international popularity?
Maybe Japs being horrible at English has actually worked in their language's favour.
>The Island Jew is not part of Mother Europa.
We are geographically, at least.
>Having to steal Europeans' languages to make their own gibberish just goes to show their nature.
That's the fault of Norman snowniggers
I am reading, but I have decks in anki that are dedicated to manga that I've finished and am waiting for new volumes to come out for, and I'd rather populate them with random vocab instead of just doing them as relearn exclusive decks
>That's the fault of Norman snowniggers
I was right. Turns out it's also the fault of Norwegian and Danish snowniggers.
>In the period from the 8th to the 12th century, Old English gradually transformed through language contact into Middle English.
>First, the waves of Norse colonisation of northern parts of the British Isles in the 8th and 9th centuries put Old English into intense contact with Old Norse, a North Germanic language. Norse influence was strongest in the Northeastern varieties of Old English spoken in the Danelaw area around York, which was the centre of Norse colonisation; today these features are still particularly present in Scots and Northern English.
>With the Norman conquest of England in 1066, the now norsified Old English language was subject to contact with the Old Norman language, a Romance language closely related to Modern French. The Norman language in England eventually developed into Anglo-Norman. Because Norman was spoken primarily by the elites and nobles, while the lower classes continued speaking Anglo-Saxon, the influence of Norman consisted of introducing a wide range of loanwords related to politics, legislation and prestigious social domains. Middle English also simplified the inflectional system. The distinction between nominative and accusative case was lost except in personal pronouns, the instrumental case was dropped, and the use of the genitive case was limited to describing possession. The inflectional system regularised many irregular inflectional forms, and gradually simplified the system of agreement, making word order less flexible.
No. You need to create a japanese psn account in order to redeem codes and download dlc, but once installed you have access to said dlc on your normal gaijin account and can play as normal
>mfw when I read that as こわれちゃう
Gotta stop reading porn so much porn.
English has all of those sounds or at least very close sounds. I don't see the problem.
や - yup, yummy, yawn, yes (just the y- part for the last two)
し - she, sheep, shit
ち - chink, chimpanzee, chin
じ - Jimmy, jeez, jeep
There is much less compelling content produced anywhere outside the Anglosphere and Japan.
Part of this is due to simple economics. Japan and America are among the largest economies in terms of dollars, among the largest nations in terms of people, and among the richest nations in terms of median disposable income.
So, it's only natural that they produce a large amount of media.
Does anyone else have problems with double clicking in anki? Clicking on "show answer" and then it goes ahead and clicks "good" for that card in the same click, fairly sure it's not my mouse
My speed is increasing
Is this what learning feels like?
Looks like you're just starting, better look at your graph and see if you still feel confident of handling future reviews+new cards. Pace yourself because it's going to be a very long run.
I'm taking jap 101 next semester because none of the classes I want are offered.
I guess I'm probably just gonna have to learn like Hiragana, Katakana and like 300-400 Kanji? Or should I prepare for even more?
You've got to be pretty inept to go to a school that isn't offering the classes you want in the first place.
I know a college degree these days is worth about as much as a sheet of toilet paper, but is it that hard to plan?
I'm about two weeks in. Usually I have about this many reviews but it takes me twice as long.
For some reason I struggled really hard with core2k at first, I shut off new cards for like four days because I was still fucking up the same 10.
But it sort of came together conceptually somehow and I'm having a way easier time committing new Kanji to memory now.
No, he's right. The job market for new grads is still turbofucked, especially in some fields (and no I don't mean women's studies and philosophy).
Even STEM grads need to have a relevant internship to get anything right now. If you've got no relevant work history, the degree is worthless. If you've got work history, the degree is worthless.
It's weird, college is basically just a necessary avenue to get a good internship for two years.
I checked the few credible local schools, I'm planning on taking ODE's, Discrete math and introductory analysis but they're all offered on weird campuses and impossible to get to without a car. So I stuck with one of those and am filling up my schedule with shit like microcontrollers and a physics class.
That's not going to last so enjoy it. Don't go trigger happy though because what may be fun and easy today can be very different down the road. You said you stopped adding new cards because you got stuck on 10? Imagine when it happens to 50 or even a hundred and suddenly you can't even finish your reviews never mind new cards. Don't deviate too much or too often from your normal pace.
You're not going to listen. I know because I've been there.
>2 days ago
>Be working at some consumer electronics store in the middle of Georgia
>Some guy come in speaking Japanese
>Not thinking, say あのねぇ、日本人でしょか？
>They both look at me
>notice I'm black
>They both start hysterically laughing.
>Walk out the store still laughing.
>fucking up the same 10
Decrease the leech threshold or just suspend the cards yourself if you're having too much trouble with a specific card, so you're not wasting time with a card you can't learn.
God those words are fucking horrible. I don't think it's a good idea to suspend any of those cards though, they all seem useful/commonly used
Oh shit, just checked the GBATemp forums and sure enough you're right. Thanks for letting me know, anon, now I can play some Wii U games I wanted to but didn't have the money for.
>trying to find that image of that Japanese guy being racist to post in reply to this
>stumble across this instead
This isn't very moe
Bush was a worldwide meme, he had a powerful (albeit terrible) image around the whole globe. Obama is just "the black president of the US" to most of the world. He has a much stronger image domestically.
>Most japanese people spend their whole lives studying just the first 2,000 Kanji
Where the hell did you read that? Knowing 2000+ kanji is a requirement to finish high school. A normal Japanese will easily know more than 3000 kanji.
How about instead of acting for someone to spoonfeed you, make a googlesearch.
That's subjective you utter fucking retard. You're here learning japanese, most people would probably say those countries has more worthwhile content than Japan.
>Back in 1996, Apple was keen to put their computers into Japanese schools but the answer from the Japanese Education Minister was a curt “No, Thank you.”
>That's subjective you utter fucking retard.
Nah. France and so on don't have a constant stream of compelling content spanning a huge variety of mediums like Japan does. At best you might get a great movie or book every once in a while.
>most people would probably say those countries has more worthwhile content than Japan.
>this is what yuropoors actually believe
Curious that there are no language learning generals for European languages on here, if that's the case. I can't be bothered to check since reddit is cancer, but I would bet money on the Japanese subreddit being considerably more active than the equivalents for any European language excluding English.
>I can't be bothered to check since reddit is cancer, but I would bet money on the Japanese subreddit being considerably more active than the equivalents for any European language excluding English.
Japanese: ~50,000 readers
Let's play this your way then
Please, do demonstrate this "constant stream of compelling Japanese content spanning a huge variety of mediums" that justifies spending 4/5x longer on the language than a European one.
>Curious that there are no language learning generals for European languages on here,
Because this site is an accurate representation. Absolutely. Go find statistics on most popular languages that people are learning,. Japanese is way, way WAY down there.
Saying French only has "one great movie or book once in a while" is not only absolute bullshit, but even if that were to be true, that's still one more "great movie or book" than Japanese will pump out within the same time frame.
It's just a matter of finding the sweet spot. Just fiddle around with the shape of your mouth and the strength you blow the air out until it makes some sound. Of course, don't fiddle randomly, make your mouth close to something like a comic "Give me a kiss shape" and blow like you were blowing on hot soup. From there try changing the parameters a bit until you get it.
>Please, do demonstrate this "constant stream of compelling Japanese content spanning a huge variety of mediums" that justifies spending 4/5x longer on the language than a European one.
VNs (very few of which get TLs), manga (for which scanlations are sporadic and unreliable), anime, LNs, movies, books, porn, porn games, etc.
Are you really going to try to argue that a European country has anywhere near the diversity of media being released on a regular basis?
>Because this site is an accurate representation. Absolutely. Go find statistics on most popular languages that people are learning,. Japanese is way, way WAY down there.
Thanks for listing a bunch of cartoons/children's media and porn. Huge variety of mediums indeed.
>reddit is an accurate representation of global language learning trends
You're a fucking moron if you think Japanese is relevant as a second language. The only people who learn it (well... I say learn it... most barely progress past the kana) are internet kiddies
Spanish, French, German and Italian are all more studied, and that's just the US
Go to Europe, and Japanese is even more irrelevant.
I've been wanting to take the N3 but I only know around 560 kanji, so I would need at least 100 more to be safe, plus while my grammar and listening has improved noticeably and it's definitely above N4 I feel it's still not N3.
>tfw by Dec 2016 my Japanese will be way past N3 but still not N2
>Spanish, French, German and Italian are all more studied, and that's just the US
Also, your stats better not include people who are forced to take a foreign language as a minor as part of their degree course.
>Thanks for listing a bunch of cartoons/children's media and porn.
>implying all (or even most) anime, manga and VNs (especially VNs) are for children
Why are you even on this board?
Just adding onto this.
I think Australia is the only place where learning Japanese could be even somewhat relevant, but they already speak English, so naturally they don't give a damn about foreign languages and can't be bothered to learn any.
Not to mention, those Reddit numbers are inflated. That website's got a fuck ton of half retarded weeaboos, more than 4chan I'd bet, who want to learn Japanese so that they can "look cool" in front of there friends.
You might see a slightly similar effect going on with girls romanticizing French or some stupid shit like that, but needless to say, the amount of dedicated French learners you'd see there would well outnumber the dedicated Japanese learners.
Can anyone explain?
I understand the different connotations in a normal sense, but not how they relate to a narrator.
Or am I reading too much into these posts?
>tfw watch an episode and only remember you were watching it without subs when the episode ends
I can only fucking imagine.
When I'm watching with English subs and I catch/understand a bit of Japanese it feels like my mind transcends the universe and I can understand everything
Watching a full unsubbed episode must be transcendent
Not really, it feels pretty normal actually. The happiness and satisfaction takes place on a more grounded, call it rational if you will, level. Are you monolingual perchance?
>I was thinking of giving this to you on lunch break because I saw you (saw your back).
Is this the correct way to read this. That だけど with a から is throwing me off.
>I was thinking of giving you this during lunch break, but since I saw your back...
There's a rest to that sentence which would come after から, which is omitted here because Japanese has a boner for ellipsis. Presumably it would state that she was unable to or something of the sort, the reason for this being that she saw his back.
I'm starting to think that it's better to learn Japanese through massive amounts of listening, than massive amounts of reading; in listening you at least learn how the words are said, in reading it's cake to just ignore the readings and not really remember how the words are said well.
Why are so many LNs translated by idiots that use google/whatever-translator with no shits given.
Seriously fucking stop. learn Japanese you underage cunts, stop claiming you translated a series, you are fucking it over.
This is entirely my reason to learn Japanese, especially when official companies seem to hire fuckups to translate things officially.
Uhh... I opened up Hidamari sketch and couldn't follow whatever the TV was saying... is that the stat you're looking for?
It's easy to learn how to read kanji and recognize words from anime
What is the meaning of "saw your back"? Why would that stop you giving someone something? What context am I missing here?
The only interpretation I can imagine for that explanation is that the speaker was stunned by dat ass, but that doesn't seem right.
I think that's why I'm able to watch anime and read manga. Japanese media is almost unbearable to read in my native language but I don't have that problem with English unless it's machine-translated.
>Uhh... I opened up Hidamari sketch and couldn't follow whatever the TV was saying... is that the stat you're looking for?
Read more. If your brain can't subconsciously figure out how to pick out words and parse them into information just from a day or two of exposure, then you simply aren't used to the language enough yet.
>It's easy to learn how to read kanji and recognize words from anime
Dis nigga serious?
I'm just mad because I was going through an LN translation on a blog and the translator was so proud of not knowing Japanese:
> No Japanese skills required, I got this far without them (smily face)
No. Translating things literally and not getting that characters are speaking in a certain tone.
I'd be too ashamed to release shitty work, it is actually damaging because so fuck ups then go "the story is shit" when what was shit was the translation. There are some retard VNDB reviews from machine translation users for VNs.
I read the translations being given as meaning "I was going to give this to you during lunch break, which was earlier, but I saw your back, so I didn't."
But I understand now.
>>I'm just mad because I was going through an LN translation on a blog and the translator was so proud of not knowing Japanese:
>> No Japanese skills required, I got this far without them (smily face)
That only makes you appear even more turbogeeky.
You really just need to make a normal kissing shape with your mouth... ask your girlfriend for a kiss, and then keep your mouth in the same position, and just blow (make sure to have wettish lips) while wiggling your lips until you hit a sweet spot.
There is a lot you can gain from use JP > JP dictionaries than just relying on JP > ENG definitions that are often lacking.
There are often ways to understand why something means different things and where they come from.
This website was pretty useful to me:
http://gogen-allguide.com for a lot of things.
>pun requires 3 languages to understand
English native brah. Even in school people were pissed off at through/thru. I also remember people writing eight as "ait" or something in protest.
Sure, but that guy is trying to say that foreigners don't call it bullshit, as far as I can tell, which is pretty untrue, considering how much English spelling/pronunciation is lambasted worldwide
>English native brah. Even in school people were pissed off at through/thru. I also remember people writing eight as "ait" or something in protest.
Wow, you english people really are retarded.
>Oh yeah - GHOTI == FISH is a huge meme and used as an example of English being bullshit all the time
This happens in EVERY FUCKING LANGUAGE you idiot. The only exceptions would be Esperanto and other crafted languages because they don't have evolution of words to worry about. Even in Japanese this happens.
>writing eight as "ait"
>protest about a nonsensical spelling by replacing it with another nonsensical spelling
You poor murricans. Your spelling is so fucked up you don't even understand the proper phonetic value of the vowels.
You are the one being a baby claiming a natural occurrence is bullshit just because you have to dump a neuron's worth of thinking into figuring out why letters (=not syllabary) don't always make the same sounds.
>Like, through being pronounced thru
Because it was spelled before the pronunciation changed.
We keep the old spelling because people in old dialects still spell it like that.
Ever learned an indo-european language outside of europe? They do the same shit, except the spelling convolution goes all the way back to their ancestor languages. In return they can communicate in writing even if they don't understand eachother. It's just like chinese.
Oh, you're just retarded.
>You are the one being a baby claiming a natural occurrence is bullshit
Nice reading comprehension
Those were anecdotes from first or second grade, you don't look so hot calling 6 year olds retarded.
>You are the one being a baby claiming a natural occurrence is bullshit just because you have to dump a neuron's worth of thinking into figuring out why letters (=not syllabary) don't always make the same sounds.
Syllabery are the same. It's just that all the languages that people care about that use syllaberies (cherokee, japanese, etc) devised their current orthography at a time when pronunciation was still similar to today.
Not every language has it happening on the degree it happens in English though. In most languages you see a word, you have a fairly good idea how to pronounce it. In English every other word has some arbitrary bullshit waiting to fuck you over. A classic example is comb-tomb-bomb.
>The orthography of a language with five hundred years of dialectual divergence doesn't match any given modern dialect exactly
WOW I AM ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED, HARDEST LANGUAGE EVER
>Please do not engage in lengthy and fruitless arguments, especially those unrelated to the thread subject. Be the bigger man, and be the first to discontinue the argument. Alternatively continue it in Japanese.
But how will they put off studying or doing anything productive if they can't shitpost about meaningless bullshit in /djt/
setting aside the fact that there are hundreds of other threads on 4chan they could be doing that in
It's not like people are coming here specifically to procrastinate. Rather, a lot of people have this thread on auto update, and to be 100% honest, Japanese attracts so many autists, so many angry and unhappy people, that when you put them in the same place with auto-refresh, you get what is essentially a chatroom for angry autistic people. They can't help but get riled up in every argument. They've got no self control.
>Latin/Greek word it ultimately came from.
As much as I don't like that guy, and as stupid as he might be in some regards, he's probably right about reddit statistics not being very reliable here.
Reasoning? Nerds are probably more likely to try to learn things on their own, especially for free off of the internet, while the only thought that will go through the minds of normies in regards to language learning is "take a class!" On the off chance that they do take initiative, they'll remember commercials, and go buy Rosetta Stone and/or Pimsleur.
If your only motivation is looking for a job, you're probably looking at Chinese, German, or Spanish. If you're a normie English-speaker who's thoughtlessly looking to have a language under his belt "because it might help you someday", you probably choose French or Spanish.
People are surprised when they hear that you're learning Japanese. Why? Because it's not a common choice.