Hirohiko Araki, who wrote JoJo's comics, hate Evangelio

>>133887313
>A manga artist/author has an opinion.
ok?

Which Gundam? There's a lot of crap.

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>jojo is completely gay cliche POS with shitty writing
>discover that the author of jojo dislikes eva because it's 2deep4u

Thanks for making my day, OP, now I have even more reason to make fun of stupid jojotards.

Does Immortal Vampire Man even like anything Japanese?

>>133887313
>Araki "Eva and Gundam's hero seem to be complicated to me.
> That anime is crap..."

Retard.

>>133887313
>That anime is crap
Seems about right.

>>133887667
>Evafags
>Especially Asukafags
>Having any right to make fun of anyone

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>>133887313
Anno "Jojo's hero seem to be too simple to me. That anime is crap..."
"i liked it better when it was hokuto no ken"

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>>133887313
>Le age never man has an opinion about an anime
Why should I care?

so....this.....is.....the.....power....of....a.....vampire......

Everything Gundam that was made after the 00's is crap, he is not wrong.

Good for you.

Man, what a man of good taste.
Maybe I should start reading Jojo

>>133887807
DONT ITS LIKE READING BOKU NO PICO DONT I REPEAT DONT READ IF YOU WALUE YOUR STRAIGHTNESS!!!

>>133887313
>eva more complicated than jojo
kek

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Kakyoin thighs.

Just to remind you guys he is talking about the main characters not the show itself. So he's just saying he dislikes Shinji and one or multiple of the Gundam protagonist. Really not that big of a deal.

>>133887857
>he's just saying he dislikes Shinji
How do people actually like him? Did Anno even make him to be liked. He was even worse in the rebuilds.
Also Gundam protagonists are shit anyways so it's a given.

Full Quote:
荒木飛呂彦、エヴァを10年前にディスっていた
http://web.archive.org/web/20090831163654/http://geocities.com/jojo2ch2000/araki1.html
荒木「あの、エヴァンゲリオンとかガンダム系のさ、
　　「ホントは戦いたくない心理の主人公がマンガの主人公になってる」ということがよくわかんないんですよ。（笑）
　　だってスカッとしないじゃないですか！悩まずに突き進んで欲しいよね。スカッと。
宅「スカッといきたいよね！エヴァンゲリオンとか見ているとわからない。頭が痛いもん。
　　だから、ボクら二人のエヴァシンクロ率はマイナス500だ！
荒木「あのアニメ、だめだよ・・・・・・。
宅「エヴァの主人公にしても「そういう性格だから、おまえはイジメられるんだ！」って感じで（笑）。
　　ボクはイジケたものは見たくないという気持ちが強いから。
　　女性キャラで大人気の綾波レイにしても、言ってみれば、陰気でタチの悪い女っぽいし（笑）。
荒木「でも、アレがあれ程支持されているのも不思議ですよね。

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As expected of the master Araki

>>133887923
>Ching chong nip nong pin pon qin gon
Get that shit outta here

>>133887726
At least he got the second part right.

>>133887905
>How do people actually like him?
He's a great character.

>>133887930
What am I looking at? Was he trying to kneel and apologise when he broke the glass?

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>>133887750
>Josuke "Four Balls" Higashikata
>Simple

>>133887667
This is such an ugly western drawing

>>133888041
You're such an ugly western person.

>>133887992
Why is he riding on a dinosaur if he doesn't like them? Also, why is he riding on a dinosaur?

>>133888067
Guess again

>>133888109
No matter how hard you try weeb, you will not become Japanese.

>>133888069
R E S P E C T
E
S
P
E
C
T

>>133887313
So? He's absolutely right

>>133888124
Good, I don't want to be a part of a dying ethnicity

>>133887857
I just assumed that he was talking about Amuro.

Anyway, it does make some sense that he wouldn't like characters that have almost no drive and are ruled by their emotional traumas.

>>133887949
Сам иди нахуй.

>>133887923
>hurr, conflict and character development is hard
>Eva makes my head hurt
Literally retarded.

Eva is pretentious drivel purposely made vague and unclear to appeal to retards that will think it's good because of its vagueness, lack of clarity, and lack of lack of a direction.

>>133888231
nigger

>>133888513
Good post.

>>133888513
My mistake, just lack of a direction.

>>133888513
I liked it when I was 14. I don't find it that complex now.

>>133888231
Gook go home, there are no dogs in here

I know a lot of Jojofags who despise all things Eva so I'm not even surprised.

>>133888589
Good job.
You've managed to grow up.

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>>133887313
Why does he never age

Both JoJo and Eva are shit, I don't even know if I can like Araki for that.

>>133887923
Could someone translate, please?

>>133888637
I think everyone go through the same stage with Eva.

>>133887313
that says nothing about the hero, he says he doesn't understand the series.

>>133888637
>anyone on /a/
>"growing up"

>>133887985
committing insurance fraud

>>133888069
Because le epic randumb Jojo pose

>>133888836
>le epic randumb shitpost
Please, fuck off

>>133888836
He's not posing though, he's riding on a dinosaur.

>>133887313
>That anime is crap
Can't argue there.

>>133888677
Here you go:
Araki "That, Evangelion Toka Gundam system,
I do not know well may be referred to as "really has become the hero psychology of the hero of the comic you do not want to fight." (Lol)
'Cause Is not no exhilarating! You'll want you to fling without bothering. Discussants and.
Home "I'll want exhilarating and go! Evangelion is that if you do not know look at Toka. Head and hurts.
So, Eva synchro rate I found two people's minus 500!
Araki "That anime,'m useless .......
Because it is "kind of personality, even if the home" Eva hero, and you've got bullied! "I feel (laughs).
Because I have the feeling that it is not want to see what was stunted strong.
Even in popular Rei in the female character, as it were, bad woman-ish to the stand on ink (laughs).
Araki "But, it's also wonder array is supported as any.

>>133887923
Araki Hirohiko dissed NGE 10 years ago

Araki: Those anime, like Evangelion or Gundam... I don't understand the point that "MCs with the mental states of I don't actually want to fight". (laugh)

Taku: I'd like to go clean and clear! I don't know (the point of) anime sorta NGE. It gives me headache. So, our NGE synchro rate is negative 500!

Araki: That anime, it's crap...

Taku: On NGE's MC, I feel like saying "You are being bullied because your such personality!" (laugh). I have strong feeling that I don't want to see something warped. On that super famous female character, Ayanami Rei, let me just say she's gloomy and looks like vicious (laugh).

Araki: But, it make me wonder why that character has such vast range of approval and support.

>>133888069
Just because you ride on a horse doesn't mean you like horses, anon.

Araki is a huge normalfag, what's new?

>>133889049
So its not that he doesn't understand it, he just hates whiny MCs?

>>133889075
Normalfags love Eva.

>>133887313
>Hirohiko Araki, who wrote JoJo's comics, hate Evangelion.

Well, it is Eva.

>>133889049
He hates Shinji.

>>133889049
dropped

>>133889171
Everyone hates Shinji on Japan. There's a small minority that support Shinji on the west though but he's still the most unpopular pilot by far.

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>>133887923
Araki's 10 year old Eva diss

Araki: "the thing is, things like Evangelion and gundam like,
I just don't understand the mind of a protagonist who doesn't want to fight, enough to put him in a manga. (lol). It's not refreshing! I want to push forward with no worries. That's refreshing."
Taku?: "That sounds refreshing! When I watch things like evangelion, I just don't understand. My head hurts, so our evangelion score is minus 500!"
Araki: "it's a bad anime...."
Taku: It's not only Eva's protagonist that makes you feel bullied, but any protagonist with a personality like that (lol).
And then I feel like I don't even want to watch the show.
Speaking of the popularity of Ayanami Rei, she's like a pretty nasty and gloomy girl (lol).
Araki: "but, as far as that goes, it's a mystery how much support there is for her."

really not sure about that last line.

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Daily reminder that this man enjoy drawing skin getting peeled.

>>133889248
>hates rei
She was the only good thing about that shit anime.

>>133889252
He has one of the strangest imaginations

>>133889049
>On that super famous female character, Ayanami Rei, let me just say she's gloomy and looks like vicious
Fuck.

>>133889338
Can't wait for part 4 to be animated.

>>133889248
Well I agree with him.

>>133889252
well it's not really getting peeled, more like turns into a newspaper

>>133889049
>>133889248
Araki is right.
Whiny MCs are shit.

>>133889290
Other way around, except you'd have to change it to "one of the shit things."

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>>133889248
How unfortunate

I wanna see a Jojoesque gundam pilot

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>>133889513

>>133887313
he just need to go back to kill dogs like he always do irl

>>133888888

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If he's talking about my boy Amuro he can go fuck himself with a rake
>>133889049

>>133887313
>Like simple fun stuff
>Hates artsy deep shit
Seems like a good guy to me

>>133889248
That sounds pretty reasonable, actually. If you don't really understand or agree with the mentality of a protagonist like that, then it'd be very difficult to write somebody like that.

Man though, that Taku guy really went off on a tangent man.

Araki
>5' 7

Anno
>5' 1

Araki wins again

Wow, thread antagonising three big fanbases.
Well done, OP.

They're different people trying to say different things to different people. All these different people aren't going to get each other unless they try to think more about where the other is coming from.

Homosexual retard doesn't translate very well to crazy asshole.

>>133889049

One of us

>>133887313

I like both JoJo and Eva. It's disappointing when authors make statements like this, but what can you do?

>>133887313
Now I love Araki even more

>>133887753
>Le
It's almost 2016, faggot.

>>133887313
Araki has good taste, sasuga

>>133889049
All this time i though Araki was just pretending to be retarded and having fun writing Jojo. But he actually is a dumbass. Oh man. That makes it even better.

>>133887905
>How do people actually like him?
Must be some faggots who can relate to him.

>>133887313
That's a damn shame, I always thought that Shinji was a great character for what it's worth, and there are a lot of great Gundam protagonists that aren't complicated.

Either way, I still really enjoy all three franchises quite a bit.

>>133887313
>Hirohiko Araki, who wrote JoJo's comics, hate Evangelion.
based Araki

>>133890089
Do you take that mentality with everybody that doesn't agree with your sensibilities, anon?

of course some Dude who creates simplistic manga about 2-dimensional characters cant sympathize with the character depth found in evangelion or gundam.

ive known all along how fucking problematic the shitheel Araki is (my first hint was his transmisogynistic Joseph played for laughs), and im glad i stopped reading his garbage years ago

>>133889948
>>133890127
Think so too.

>>133889049
So he doesn't like whiny MCs, well he has good taste.

am I hip yet guise

>>133887313
Mecha is crap though. Jojofags still homo though.

>>133889948
Honestly, I didn't even know Araki watched any anime. He always seemed strictly into manga and western movies and music to me.

>>133890159
>character is deep because he's a whiny bitch
Evafags everyone

>>133887313
I don't like JoJo but the author seems to have decent taste.

>>133890143
Completely failing to understand why Shinji works as a protagonist actually requires you to be stupid.

Man he really is immortal. Someone should update that picture

>>133890159
>evangelion
>character depth

>>133887313

Not everybody likes Evangelion or Gundam? Burn this man.

I love this man.

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>>133887313
As expected of a man of superb taste.

>>133890330
The gif should be getting faster and faster.

>>133890222
>>133890254
Even if you're too stupid to understand Eva you should at least sympathize with Amuro, who isn't that hard to understand.
The kid is a refugee and a child solider, of course he's going to be reluctant to fight. He just needs to get slapped around a little and he becomes a battlefield berserker halfway through the first series.

>>133890235
If you don't like that kind of protagonist to begin with of course you aren't going to completely understand why other people like them or not struggle with writing that kind of protagonist yourself.

>>133890235
He doesn't fail to understand him, he just doesn't like him.

Eva is shit.
JoJo is shit.
Most Gundam is shit, but some are very good.

Anon, who wrote shitposts, hate Evangelion.

>>133890376
>Eva you should at least sympathize with Amuro
Why should somebody obligatory sympathize with certain type of character? You are retarded.

>>133889248
>I want to push forward with no worries

what a hack

>>133890376
There's nothing complicated to understand, some people just don't like spinless whiny teenagers being main characters, even if they understand why they act like they do.

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ARAKI DID NOTHING WRONG

Araki watches anime?

>>133890376
Even if you understand Amuro, it is pretty easy to get irritated with him in the first half of the series.

My sympathy kind of ended when he stole the Gundam because Bright had been thinking of letting somebody else pilot it. The Gundam itself was a huge factor in defending White Base and making off with it because of hurt feelings could have put everybody in danger.

>>133887313
>>133887923
>>133889248

It does not say "that anime is crap", you retards. Even the people in futalog are mentioning how he's just saying it's not his type of anime. Learn proper Japanese at least, faggots.

>You know that sort of anime, like Gundam and Evangelion and all that...I really don't get the whole "making the main character to be someone who just doesn't want to fight" thing. (...)　
>That anime, I just can't watch it

As in, "it's just not my thing"

僕は納豆がだめだ
Means "I can't eat natto", "I really don't like natto", "I'm bad with natto" etc, not "natto are crap".

>>133890159
Fuck off to Tumblr

>>133887313
>あのアニメ、だめだよ・・・・・・
Reads more like he's saying he just can't get into those kinds of stories than him calling them outright shit.

>>133891088
Thank you for the correction.

>>133891088
>>133891153
>evafags in charge of moon

>>133887313
Both Jojo, Evang and everything Gundam after 0079 is shit to be honest.
It's good to see that these old fucks are jumping at each others throats though, I hope they commit combined career suicide so the superior new generation of anime creators can take their place.

>>133891027
But he does come back, gets put in the brig, improves his attitude etc., that was his big mistake.
Just like Kai helping the spy, Mirai taking command and freaking out, Sayla insubordination for nii-san.

And he did meet Ramba Ral because of that, which was pretty cool.

>>133891246
Context is key anon. Without it, translating someone's elaboration on a subject matter will lead to shitty translations. Also, Eva's not my kind of thing either. Good direction but the story really isn't all it's been made out to be.

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>>133889513
Watch Gundam The Origins then.

>>133887710
If he does, then it's a secret to everyone.

the creator of gaygay doesn't like eva not even suprised

>>133887667
Go back to moot ass you fucking faggot

>>133891246

I actually prefer Jojo and I'm living in Japan, bitch

>>133891762
Not him but can I go to moot ass too? I miss him.

>>133891331
Awful opinion. 0079 is a poor man's LotGH and modern anime is worthless.

>>133887313
Didnt he pulled an EVA at the end of Part 6?

>>133890717
Of course. he just said his opinion

>>133891340
I suppose I was being a little harsh since it didn't turn out as badly as it could have. But I did lose a lot of sympathy still.

With Kai I felt badly for him because it ended in tragedy for him. There's probably some bias here because he's my favorite character.

Mirai's breakdown was understandable as nobody had taken into consideration that Bright may not always be able to take command. It also sheds more light on how stressful his job is as well.

Oh yeah. Sayla. Fuck her she can't do anything right.

>>133891088
This. Evafags looking for a reason to shitpost again.

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>>133889049
Araki is classy, he just proves it once again
his characters also get character development (Johnny would be good counterpart to shiji) but aren't such an unsufferable whinney pricks

>>133891799
I was actually thinking at that ending, "This is probably how I was supposed to feel watching EoE"

>>133887313
Araki is in the Yokoyama camp, while Anno and Tomino are in the Tezuka/Ishinomori camp.

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>>133891799
I still don't understand the ramifications of what happened there. Do all the people who weren't killed during MiH still know their fates now? They did after the first reset.

>>133887905
>Pushovers can empathize with him.

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>>133887857
>>133887905
Shinji is a good character. Too bad, Araki seems like a great guy.

>>133890590
But Shiji isn't that, anon, that's the point, people like you who can't even comprehend that.

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>>133891660
>gaygay
go through puberty then come back and post on /a/ kid

That translation is completely off.
>Well, I don't really understand (the popularity behind) anime such as Eva and Gundam. They're no good...

>>133892395
Nah, I'm pretty sure Araki loved Tezuka. Look at how except he is here to shake hands with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM8rLDHblsc

>>133890468
>but some are very good
Found the retard

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>>133890717
Araki did everything wrong.
He didn't draw shota Rohan being sexually teased by Reimi nee-san. Unforgivable.

>>133890001
John stop.

>>133889248
>I don't understand
Wow, Evangelion is actually 2deep4him

>>133893312

>>133892926

>>133887667
What led to this comment?

Jojo revels in the male form, but they have children and heterosexual relationships. Evangelion is ACTUALLY homoerotic to the point that I see it as gay propaganda. Shinji is a fag. Kaworu is his lover.

Did you even watch Eva?

Wish this man can draw another series.

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I'm a fan of both but I am bigger Jojo fan so I will suck Arakis dick even if he is insulting Eva

>>133893733
Kaworu isn't even human, how can he be "gay"?
Shinji is definitely hetero.
What an idiot.

>>133893916
Eva is gayer than Shin Sekai Yori

>its not gay cause he's not human
It's gay. You're gay.

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>>133893971
>gayer than Shin Sekai Yori

How about no?

>>133894053
They were a Frank Sinatra song away from buttfucking on top of the piano.

Shit was fucking GAY dude.

>>133893971
There's nothing wrong with Shinsekai Yori, it's great, as is JoJo and as is NGE.

I want to penetrate women, stop projecting.

>>133887313
>JoJo
>not crap

>>133894053
Not gay, just Italian.

>>133887313
>Gundam's hero
What does this even mean? Does he even know what Gundam is?

>>133887313
Why did you skip the part where he explains why he thinks they don't work?

Araki favors manly men of action so obviously he wouldn't like faggot ass pussy characters like Shinji and Amuro. Not really any kind of surprise. Although I do like Gundam and Eva I can see where he's coming from, it's often frustrating watching those kind of bitch characters, unless the viewer is also a puss and can relate to them.

>>133887750
>those ears

>>133894261
I'm Italian and you're retarded. We're a very homophobic country.

>>133890468

/a/ educating people on the quality of Gundam series

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>>133893733
Stay in the closet, the only faggot here is you, retard.

>>133894285
Is he talking about IBO or another Gundam series?

Shinji being a wimp was to be expected considering what he was dealing with.

>>133894535
I know. I'm just saying that what Giorno is wearing is pretty common in Italian renaissance era art.

>>133894285

Amuro Ray obviously

>>133894449
>he's only able to relate to things he directly experienced
Everytime.
If Araki likes manly men so much why the fuck aren't his characters like in the first 3 parts anymore? It was the biggest let down from Part 4.

Donut man is superior to car killer.

Gundam > JoJo > Evatrash

>>133887313
Who cares? Eva is shit, Gundam is shit, Jojo is shit

>>133894649
They are still manly, just not as exaggerated as Hokuto no Ken as before. Even the Part 5 twinks are pretty manly other than their appearance, Bruno is fucking stone cold.

>>133894649
Manly by their actions, not appearance

>>133894746
Brad Pitt is not manly, Kenshiro is manly.
Only females and faggots think otherwise.
>>133894800
Appearance is important too, as much as actions in a fucking comic.

He draws ugly

>>133891088
that's right
それが正しい翻訳です

>>133887313
In other words, he got a feeling so complicated

>>133894334
This is a shitposting thread, no surprise seeing it's Eva and Jojo related. Of course OP would make it as vague as possible to stir more shit.

>>133887775
00 was good

>>133895309
>This is a shitposting board

Fixed

>>133888513
THIS

>>133894616
This, and he literally never wears it. It's from a volume cover.

>>133888637
The point is that it's pretty overt if you have a brain. Complaining that it's vague or 2deep4u only shows how weak your critical thinking and analytic abilities are.

>>133892926
Silly anon, if it weren't for the translation being off, OP wouldn't be able to make this super hip popular thread.

>>133888730
Nah, I'll probably sound pretentious but I went straight to the "it's crap trying to look complex" phase.
But it does look good, so I kept watching.

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>>133891772
>I'm living in Japan, bitch
>English teacher and proud

>>133894053
>Being /fa/ is gay

Thank god Araki doesn't like EVA.
And for those that are going to go "Oh, you guys simply hate it 'cause you don't get how deep it is", here's my suggestion: 1st. Its a fucking mecha show, its main goal was to sell toys above anything
2nd. Watch Big O

>>133887313

Can this man get any more based!!!!

God damn I fucking hate Evafags and Anno. Garbage tier emo teen garbage that got way too popular. Not to mention it popularized the worst character archetype ever.

>>133890159
Back to reddit with you faggot

Eva, Gundam and Jojo are crap

This is fucking hilarious, another reason to laugh at Jojo.

>intelligent well written/education/respected japanese quotes are always "what? no __ suck" or something similar

I wonder if it's JUST the translation

>hating on Amuro
>hating on Kamille

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how this nigga gonna complain about whiny characters when he's responsible for this giant faggot?

>>133890159
Kill yourself

>>133887832
Everyone who talks like that is secretly gay already when he begins reading .
I am straight yet i read all jojos and enjoyed it ,and i know you are meme baiting me and shit but i want to say that to every fag that thinks like that .YOU WERE ALREADY GAY BEFORE YOU CUNT NOTHING CAN MAKE YOU GAY OR STRAIGHT IF YOU ARENT ALREADY ITS NOT A FUCKING SWITCH TO TURN OFF AND ON

>>133892963
the 80s were truly a magical time

>>133887930
He's like Arararararagi testing his Vampire powers before he uses them again

And all this time I thought Jojolion name was inspired from you know from what.

>>133890159
>Evangelion
>depth
lol, there's nothing deep in Evangelion.
It's literally pretentious garbage.

WEW ITS LIKE EVERYONE HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT SOMETHING

>>133896446

Fucking rekt.

>>133891782
>LotGH
>not shit
What a homosexual.
Only faggots of the highest caliber can enjoy that faggy shit. Why don't you emigrate to California and get married to a black fat transexual female to male post op you humongous asspirate.

I like Evangelion ,JOJO, and i recently started watching the first Gundam and i like it too
All of you can suck my dick you shit flinging faggots .

>>133898524
this is bait

>>133897576
It is. Some people have already pointed out that he just said he personally doesn't like whiny MCs like Shinji and Amuro
That's all.
But saying it like that isn't as good to attarct shitposting as saying "x said y sucks" where x is some famous manga or anime creator and y is some famous show or genre
It's a way to incite a fanbase war beetween the fans of the person and the fans of the thing getting criticised

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>>133898524
Just saying that for everything Gundumb does, LotGH does it better, including homolust.

>>133898569
This entire thread is bait retard.

I don't think he watched Gundam or gave it a fair chance. Amuro starts whiny but mans up and so does Kamille.
Shinji on the other hand cries from the first episode to the last, so i can understand why Araki doesn't really like EVA.

>>133887753

I ain't clicking that shit

>>133887710
He likes Chocolate Disco, by Perfume, a japanese electro pop band.

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>>133887710
He likes Toshinobu Kubota, a japanese soul singer.

>>133890159
this man speak the truth

>>133899868
Reminder that Jotaro listens to this and probably dances to it when nobody is looking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds131CjWQew

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>>133890363
>gets faster and faster until it turns into Araki with a different hairstyle

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>>133890159
>transmisogynistic Joseph played for laughs

So Evafags are SJWs

No wonder I hate them both so much

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>>133889049
>But, it make me wonder why that character has such vast range of approval and support.

Asukafags and Reifags on suicide watch.

>>133887949
>>>/v/

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>>133901629
This whole thread should be taken to /v/

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>>133887313
The botox is real