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What are some good examples of competent and strong female characters

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What are some good examples of competent and strong female characters in anime and manga that aren't reduced to tsun or something dumb. Natsuo comes to mind.
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You should read 7 Seeds.
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The purest non-pure girl
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>>133879559
there are literally hundreds, use your brain
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>>133879559
She still was submissive to her brother.
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>>133879559
picked up desu
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Nice rec thread.
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>>133879637
I'll give it a read thanks.
>>133879670
I don't think there are very many of them, aside from Ghibli films.
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>>133879559

Well, I'm not sure if you consider these valid, but Gunsmith Cats and Gunm have some of my favorite female characters in Manga.
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>>133879559

destro 246 , strong also lesbian
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>>133880974
No translations, huh?

Since this thread is already about fighting women:

>this will never get translated
The fights are really well done and it's pretty much porn. Looks amazing why won't anyone translate.
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Gonna go with any character from nanoha, admittedly she starts off as a moe blob magical girl but as the series goes on she transforms into a capable adult who can fire off pink laser blasts that goku would struggle to compete with

You also have her girlfriend fate who at first glance looks like her rival and edgy counterpart but has some of the best charater developement in the series as she recovers from having an abusive mum, not to mention she weilds lightning swords the size of gutz's dragonslayer
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>>133879559
Girls of the Wilds

its a filthy manhwa, but a good one at that
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>>133881065
S-she's fast!
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>>133881674
It started good and got super generic.

Boxer is best girl.
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>>133881693
eh its currently in a slump but I foresee it picking up in the near future
also yes boxer is best girl
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>>133879559

>I'm a genius at everything cause reasons

Quality character writing
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>>133882241
You haven't met someone who is naturally exceptional at everything? If anything, they make a point of shattering that persona.
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>>133879559
Too bad Natsuo is a shitty character.
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>>133881689
For you.
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>>133882307
Nah.
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Balsa
Motoko
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>>133879637
that art
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>>133882793
>not liking old shoujo style art
It's time to kill yourself.
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>>133879666
my many thanks, anon.
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>>133879559
but she's weak and tsun.
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Shut Hell i guess?
oh and Song of the Long March
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>>133879637
>that 'How to Draw Manga' book really paid off!
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>>133883602
what's wrong with it?
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>>133879559
Kyoukai the realist chick.
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>>133883683
turnip caught up way too fast
the weekly wait is agonizing
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Jolyne kujo
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Read Iou Kuroda manga if you want to read female characters who are strong without having physical super powers or somehow being far better at fighting than men.
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>motoko
>zero results

shit thread, shit taste
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>>133883826
>>133882705
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>>133883825
>somehow being far better at fighting than men.
It's not like this is impossible. I've gotten my ass kicked by a few fightan women.
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Grenadier has one of the greatest female lead anime characters of all time.

Mai-HiME too.

And, as above me: Utena. Also literally anything by Studio Ghibli. (Can Gainax or Trigger count too?)
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>>133881065
You could at least MENTION that it's called Hagure Idol.

Oh, while on topic: Change 123.
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>>133883951
Ur a faggot
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Old shoujo stuff is what you want OP. Things like Princess Knight, Rose of Versailles, Hoshi no Seine.

Also, what exactly do you mean by "strong"? Do you strictly want action anime? Because otherwise there's great drama like Nana, Candy Cady, Sandybell, stuff like that.

I honestly can't decide wether to recommend Honey & Clover or not.
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>>133884502
The latter group most definitely also includes Spice and Wolf.
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Medaka Box takes what you are looking for to the top and then over it.
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>>133879559
Akame?
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There was a series I only vaguely remember and it was about a guy who had worms inside him which helped him regenerate.
There was a girl in that who was an absolute fucking badass, she was sick and if I recall she used a three-sectioned weapon.

She also wasn't the main girl who was just plain shit.
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The entire Pretty Cure franchise.

Hell, most (at least classic) magical girl stories should make your day OP.

Also Slayers, Dirty Pair, Bubblegum Crisis, Burn Up, Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne (both mediums, this is important), Angel Sanctuary (bit of a stretch but if fits), and lest we forget: motherfucking GUNNM.
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I know Cat's Eye is like that too.

Also, arguably, select seasons of Ikkitousen.

Oh, and we shouldn't forget the original japanese action heroine: Cutie Honey!
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Would you like female sports manga, OP? Things like Attacker You, Yawara and stuff like that?

There's also more stuff about the entertainment industry, like Kaleido Star and Skip Beat. Oh, and Glass Mask.
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Hosoda Mamoru's works are pretty good in this regard.

Then again that depends on how narrow your definition of "strong" is.
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>competent and strong female characters in anime and manga that aren't reduced to tsun or something dumb.
Agent Aika, and its spinoffs and related works, completely fits the bill.

Also anything by Bee Train.
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>>133880974
Isn't that like Murcielago? And Trash. ?

Also OP if you don't mind just looking at pictures you should definitely check out Natsuki Crisis.
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Sukeban Deka

Azumi

Muteki Kanban Musume
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Makyou no Shanana, as much as much as you can find of it.
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>>133879559
dudes light weight and shes like super heavy weight, female or no. thats just what happens when you fight above your weight class
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Kiddy Grade fits the bill I guess. The sequels too.

As well as Romeo X Juliet.
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>>133884418
>Grenadier has one of the greatest female lead anime characters of all time.
Superb taste.

Also I don't care what anybody says, Utena has the best female cast I've ever seen in anime.
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>>133884928
>Utena has the best ... I've ever seen in an anime
That's only natural.
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned Dorohedoro yet

>>133884711
>Glass Mask
T H I S
H
I
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>>133885108
>Glass Mask
>49 Volumes (Ongoing, V. 50 postponed)
>Note: Volume 50 seems to be indefinitely postponed
Okay then.
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>>133881618
Her wife now kind of turns into a stereotypical moeblob when she's around her family, so I don't know if I would count her. She's still a badass when fighting or at work though.
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Kon Satoshi madegreat stuff with women in in, like Perfect Blue (the greatest thriller never filmed) and Millennium Actress (the greatest movie ever made about movies).
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>>133884601
blade of the immortal anon.
good taste
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>>133885154
Just try it anyway, the translation isn't up that high yet. Plus when you read it I can guarantee you'll finish three-four volumes per sitting, it's really addictive.
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Can Jem and the Holograms count as anime?

It was animated by Toei and it's more feminist than any anime made this decade outside of Kill la Kill.
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Atori is super competent!
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>>133879559
you can't go wrong with aoty

pic related
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>>133879559
Witch Craft Works and Ah! My Goddess.
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>>133885395
yea, but WCW has a little bitch as a MC, so it balances out
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>>133885492
That's only because everyone around him is either insanely powerful or just plain insane, he's a pretty cool guy, and he gets shit done when needed.
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>>133885492
>>133885766
Wasn't this explained as a huge chunk of his original self being sealed away or something? As the seal weakens, we're seeing his intelligence, physical ability, and assertiveness increase.
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apparently those that does MMA
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>>133881674
>Manhwa
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Every bully and most villains. If it's a children's show like Anpanman or Shimajiro there's going to be some, especially if a episode features a motherly type. Also everything described in >>133884628

I don't know why this thread kept getting replies because >>133879670 covered it in the third post. There's a huge amount of competent women in anime and manga, the only reason why someone would think there aren't is because they don't actually engage in the hobby or they're out of touch shitposters aka Hayao Miyazaki
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>>133886004
So tsun.
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Symphogear
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>>133882793
>>133883602
Geez, I can't help but feel like people are really harsh towards Tamura's drawings.
I get that old shoujo art is weird to those not used to it, that she has some proportions issues and ocasionally botch up some details but I still think her art is charming despite its faults.
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>>133888377
The art isn't very good, but Basara is one of my favorite manga of all time.
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>>133883740
Pin Pon Gaaru!
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>>133886291
>mma girl will never walk over you wearing a skirt while you're lying on the ground too tired to move
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>>133879559
What an absolute riot. That man and woman are the same size roughly and it's trying to depict her as ripped and kicking ass.

The only way a woman could get that ripped is by using steroids.
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>>133884776
>Also anything by Bee Train.

Not all though
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Hoshi no Samidere has a pretty decent number of female characters that are well developed and have a variety of personalities.

They're all fairly strong in terms of personal power and emotional/mental fortitude also.

I'd also heartily recommend Planetes for similar reasons, though the heavy focus on romance and smaller focus on the female cast members (compared to HnS) could be offputting if you're going into it solely for more feminist-friendly depictions of women.
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>>133889793
She's 5'9 you skinnyfat pussy. Plus I'd hardly call her ripped.
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>>133889793
>The only way a woman could get that ripped is by using steroids.

Anon that's just blatantly incorrect.

They'd have to work a fair bit harder than med do to attain/maintain a moderately ripped physique like that, but plenty of women in the real world manage a comparable level of muscles as that character has without steroids.
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>>133890069
Even if a woman did work her way up to that level, she'd get demolished in a contest of strength with a similar sized man who didn't work as hard.

Ass kicking women are a myth perpetuated by femdom fuccbois who want their asses pegged.
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>>133890030
For a woman? That's ripped as fuck. Women are weak.
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>>133890092
>Ass kicking women are a myth perpetuated by femdom fuccbois who want their asses pegged.
/pol/ control yourself
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>>133890092
Are you by any chance thinking that Sanae on the ground is a dude?
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>>133890186
Wow, you're right. It has tits.

There is little more degenerate than putting women who should be gentle and feminine in a ring, beefing them up with roids and getting them to rip each other's heads off.
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>>133890092
>women's muscles, despite being the exact same from a physiological perspective, are somehow worse than men's because I say so

Do you realize how autistic you sound?

Also the chick on the ground isnt a dude you blind moron.
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>>133890226
>>>/pol/
>>>/r9k/
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Ignore the shitposter arguing about women wrestlers and just keep posting recs, I've run out of shit to read and am taking notes from this thread.
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Such a shame her brother turned into quite the dick, she´s all alone in the world, she just wanted to be an executioner and having a supporting brother.
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>>133881674
>Strong girls
>Posting girls weak for the MC d, they are all harem girls and nothing more
>Gook work
Get out.
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>>133883783
Best girl, had too little screen time.
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>>133890185
He's only half wrong.

Some women are pretty tough. At the same time in a realistic world that works the way we understand it, men simply put on more muscle pound for pound than women of the same stature.

All things being equal aside from that the man has a large advantage in this sense.

You really have to start bringing in "magic/chi/what the fuck ever" to get around this.

Which is why hypothetically, pretty much anyone in most Shonen series COULD be the biggest badass ever, although in practice the person who ends up like that is the adolescent or pre adolescent male audience stand-in. Although at times chicks make significant adversaries or show that on balance, it's only because "Woah he's super talented!".

Some of the most brutally powerful people in Hunter x Hunter, for instance, are not necessarily men, or the biggest men.
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>>133890419
>anon started trying to be serious and lost it while writing his post
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>>133879559
[remora works]
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>>133890584
That's the futa duels, right?
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>>133890704
mostly, it sales better. But older ones are women vs women. Its harder to find tho
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>>133883719
no shit, they went on with a 5+ chapters a week pace

it was fucking amazing
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>>133890092
>Ass kicking women are a myth perpetuated by femdom fuccbois who want their asses pegged

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C6%B0ng_Sisters
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>>133890432
>You really have to start bringing in "magic/chi/what the fuck ever" to get around this

You mean "weapons"?
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>>133890226
I want /pol/ to go back to their containment board
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>>133881065
>kneeing faster than the tackle from that position
Now that's just not fair man.
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>>133890759
They quit doing the women vs. women stuff?

That's pretty sad. Nobody else has (consistently) put out that kind of thing, which is a shame considering how hot it is.
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Why are there so many more well written female characters out of Japan's mass media?
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I've recently started Iria. I really like how they portray her
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>>133881774
this is kinda the completely opposite what OP is asking, it's a bunch of shallow girls that fall in love with a beta MC with pretty lame fighting scenes.
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>>133892501
Casca's character was screwed over big time. The hiatuses don't help either.
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>>133879559
Kino
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I feel we're forgetting someone...
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you still there OP? MC start as a sheltered spoiled brat but there is ton of strong and competent woman (she still get there, but it takes some time)
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>>133892501
Depends on the weapon used, some like that super long roman spear did require heavily conditioned men to utilize it properly due to the weight. However, heavy weapons and armor are rarely used due to the fatigue they cause on the wearer regardless of gender. Armor in general wasn't even that heavy in the first place, the weight was comparable to modern military gear.

I don't know why muscular strength is so heavily associated with fighting ability. Some strength is necessary of course but no soldier or SWAT member is going to be built like a power lifter.

So much of military and police conditioning is just building up endurance, same goes for combat sports like boxing.
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>>133892501
The boat ride should be over soon, just hold on a little longer. We may see her cured yet,
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>>133879559
Full Metal Alchemist
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>>133879670
Strong: plenty -> Competent : many -> not reduced to tsun or something dumb -> few
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>>133882275
Context check.
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>>133885178
>u jelly cuz im banging nanohas ass evvry day lol

Confirmed canon.
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>>133879559
Definitely Gally/Alita from Gunnm.
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>>133890584
>>133890704
Wait, what?
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>>133893280
They technically didn't become canon until after that, and technically it's not possible for them to be together every night to fuck thanks to Fate's job, but I get your point.
Also it's Nanoha who's banging Fate's ass, not the other way around.
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>>133891292
Seriously, fuck China.
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>>133879559
This isn't even veiled, fuck off.
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>>133893593
Yet Nanoha's the one with their progeny inside her.
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>>133893197
>And modern military gear fractures womens' backs at an astounding rate, something like 60% of women in one military study reported back problems after 2 years of service

Which study? Other findings believe the problem has to do with all military gear is designed with a man's body in mind. Shoes specifically don't take account the differences in strides and they're rolling out some new ones to stomp out those stress fractures.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/14/military-pressed-to-design-line-of-women-friendly-/?page=all
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OP here. Sorry fell asleep and came back to see the thread had blown up. First of this wasn't a recommendation thread I was looking for examples of actual "competent and strong" women. It meant characters who had strengths in many aspects "mental, physical, and emotional" while also growing as decent characters throughout their respective stories.
I found a whole bunch and was reminded of a few that I have overlooked and some that I would like to get to know. Thanks /a/ you little girls are alright.
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>>133879666
Is that supposed to be female, Satan?
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>>133879559
>natsuo
>good character
no I don't get this shitty series praise
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ITT: Any thread that genuinely wants to discuss anime&manga and isnt a best girl shitpost thread is a rec thread and doesnt belong here. Why is /a/ the third most autistic board on this site?
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>>133884628
>The entire Pretty Cure franchise.
Indeed
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>>133895413
the thread started with a stupid premise and was /threaded by the 3rd post, you're lucky it didn't turn into a dubs thread
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>140+ posts
>no one has mentioned Moribito

definitely deserved another season or two
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>>133894708
nice shitpost
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>>133895496
>A thread about discussing decent female characters instead of bland copy pastes is a stupid premise
Pretty sure thats just your /a/utism talking
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>>133894517
Marie had a hard life anon
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>>133895598
read the third post in the thread
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Did Peridot turn into shit later on or something because no ones said that so far.
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>>133895774
Yes, I saw your shitpost. Anything else you want to say? Or are you just here because I hurt your feelings?
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Momoka from Sabagebu
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>>133895787
Peridot started shit early on but gets redeemed later
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>>133879559
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>>133895825
i don't know why you think my feelings are hurt.
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>>133895835
But she's just an evil bitch

Not that it makes her any worse as a character
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>>133879559
Well excluding Natsuo, I'd say >>133882705
Those are my 3 most favorite characters as well and others that come to my mind that would fit your description would be Koko, Satsuki and Candy Store.

I would say that one of the reasons I really like Balsa, Motoko and Natsuo as well as think they are strong characters (in multiple aspects), is that they all have their own problems and weaknesses of their own that they face. Natsuo I believe to be the one who out of the three has it the hardest as she faces the most problems of the three, both external and internal conflicts. She's also the youngest of them which is another reason, and gets the most development as she experiences and has to deal with a lot more than the other two.
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>>133895720
I've been meaning to read this for the amazing art, but the wombo combo of smut and shounen ai in the tags has been putting me off
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>>133895502
>>133882705
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>>133896257
Well its a manga about executioners anon. As far as shounen ai goes, its extremely rare. Like two instances of it in the manga so far of 2 guys kissing.
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>>133893085
Shame she had so little screen time
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>>133879666
That shit was so gay it made a hetero sex scene feel homoerotic.
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>>133896257
It's better than Kokou no Hito so far, if you ask me. There's no homolust in it at all. As far as smut is concerned, it's all about purity and defilement, kind of like how Kokou no Hito was.
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The girls of Mai-HiME are an exception of better female characters
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>>133879559
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>>133896335
Damiens dindu nothin';_;
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>>133896799
Rock isn't a girl anon.
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>>133895598
Different anon here.

I can't help but think that people who complain about lacking in good female characters are actually people who haven't read much manga. Because honestly, after reading manga for so many years, I find that there's actually a lot of competent female characters that really, you're better of finding a specific series you like and talk about it, rather going for a broad topic like this.

So yes, it is a stupid premise because this is just asking to generate one liner examples (and of course shitposting) rather than in-depth discussions.
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>>133892196
Japan has serious problems making interesting and strong female characters unless they're extremely dolled up or brainless cowtits first.
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>>133893151
Not true. That you have to bring in tsun make it sound like you only read action shounen.

>>133879817
There actually are a hell lot. Ghibli is just the prominent example but really, if you're willing to dig beyond the surface, you know, anime has surprisingly a hell lot of them that you're better off starting this thread in MAL's rec forum to ask people to list off examples.
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>>133893336
damn straight
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>>133895413
This is pretty clearly a rec thread, OP isn't even trying to hide it.
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>>133897105
>Japan has serious problems making interesting and strong female characters unless they're extremely dolled up or brainless cowtits first.
No Japan can make interesting and strong female characters or hell just interesting females. Its just that stuff does sell in Japan. Japanese likes to stick with what they know and that's the generic personalities(all the dere's) or plain girls. If someone even tried to make an interesting and/or strong female character you can guarantee it won't sell unless that character is a side character like what most anime/manga do.
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Wait, did we avoid mentioning Major Kusanagi for a reason, or??? Movie & GiTs, not this Arise crap..
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>>133897988
She was already mentioned.
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>>133897680
>If someone even tried to make an interesting and/or strong female character you can guarantee it won't sell unless that character is a side character like what most anime/manga do.
Try reading manga that haven't been adapted into an anime. Manga's a much larger industry, so there's a ton of it out there, including shoujo which is specifically marketed at girls and tends to have plenty of strong female characters.
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>>133879559
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>>133897058
Plus it's literally just asking for examples of something, without trying to generate any more in depth discussion of it, which is a clear sign of a rec thread.
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>>133895496
> you're lucky it didn't turn into a dubs thread
It's not too late for that.
check em
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Ctrl-f no results

Shiki a best
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>>133898664
Plus there was this guy >>133879817 acting like OP and thanking people for recs, as well as several others later on very clearly treating it as a rec thread.
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>>133881065
>search out raws for Takatou Rui fightan manga
>find out it's half a Takatou Rui lewd manga
Bonus. His art's changed since Cynthia the Mission, but I still recognized his style in that image.
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>>133899863
I remember this, some creepy shit happened
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Tokyo ESP
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>>133899194
I believe OP actually just wanted to see if these types of characters were rare or not, basically. OP most likely likes them and I think maybe his/her thought process went something like:

>I really like the character of Natsuo, but I can't really think of many other females like her (in this case, how OP thinks that she's strong and competent)
>it would be a shame if there aren't many of these, since I think these types of characters are good (/that OP likes them) and there should be more of them
>I'll make a thread to reassure me/find out (since OP seems to not have been able to think of many at the time, but later was able to remember because of this thread) that these types of characters aren't as underrepresented as I hope they aren't/think they might be

That's just what I thought up of though from reading the OP and this >>133894235 (which I then assume was from OP)
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>>133879559
I guess you could say a lot of Black Lagoon females are competent and strong (esp. Balalaika)

I think only Revy got reduced to being a tsun, but not completely and she's still competent and strong.
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>>133899194
it is also kind of clear from this post >>133894235 that OP (assuming it is OP) wasn't really looking for discussion ("fell asleep", "found characters"), which is why I first thought of the same thing you did. But after reading once more I came to this conclusion >>133900282
since OP didn't intend for it to be a rec thread (if to believe what OP wrote)
>First of this wasn't a recommendation thread
>found a whole bunch and was reminded of a few that I have overlooked
and also explains what he/she wanted from this thread which was
>examples of actual "competent and strong" women. It meant characters who had strengths in many aspects "mental, physical, and emotional" while also growing as decent characters throughout their respective stories.
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>>133879559
Motoko Kusanagi
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>>133900282
>I like thing
>I hope there's more of this thing
>I'll make a thread to find out
That's the logic behind most rec threads.
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>>133900983
yes I think so to but I thought that in this case it was actually something more like:
>I like thing
>realise I can't remember much more like this
>I'll make a thread to help me remember and find more of the same to reassure me that the thing I like isn't rare, as that would be a shame since I think something like this shouldn't be as rare as I think it might possibly be/it's good so I think there should be more of it than I fear there might be or that it'd be a shame if it was underrepresented

so I don't think OP necessarily made a rec thread, but maybe a little bit of that intent was mixed in though, At least the main point I think was what he/she himself/herself stated (assuming it is OP):
>>133894235
>I was looking for examples of actual "competent and strong" women. It meant characters who had strengths in many aspects "mental, physical, and emotional" while also growing as decent characters throughout their respective stories.
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>>133890373
This
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>>133895413
because "reccomendation threads" triggers them
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>>133881065
where's a good place to find raws of this?
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>>133895413
There's next to no actual discussion here besides the same bullshit argument about how much stronger the average man is than the average woman.
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>>133902103
What ever the intent was, asking for examples and nothing else is a shit way to start a thread.
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>>133902453
>>133902506
This. Blame OP for starting a shitty rec thread. Start a proper thread with say, a specific series and we would have gotten a decent thread.
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Please don't forget Chihaya
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>>133902289
I just googled the japanese name and picked an early result. Was easy mode.
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>>133890419
The only difference is that women have to work harder to attain the same musculature as a man because of less testerone being in their bodies. But muscles are still muscles. Fast twitch only helps you put on more muscle but wears out quickly. It doesnt automatically give more strength.

Youre full of shit senpai.
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>>133902506
yes I never tried to argue against that as I think the same, here >>133900874 I said:
>it is also kind of clear from this post >>133894235 that OP (assuming it is OP) wasn't really looking for discussion
And when you aren't looking for discussion it just makes it all pretty pointless and it ends up looking like a rec thread (in this case at least) or something like 3x3 threads which does not encourage or aims to create discussion

The only thing I was arguing against was the belief that this is a rec thread and only that and that that was the only intent of this thread, even if it doesn't encourage any discussion from the OP.
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>>133903090
Okay.
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>>133885013
She told MacArthur to get the fuck out of Japan. Pretty cool chick.
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>>133900062
yeah but now shes a crazy demon
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>>133884878
Has there been anyone at all whos beaten someone beyond their weight class? Or is that just in my animes.
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>>133903328
yeah I know the topic of discussion was really pointless, but I was just trying to have actual discussion and arguments with people since I like it at times.
I don't blame you if you "Okay" me again
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>>133903636
I didn't mean that to be passive aggressive, I just got your point.
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>>133903517
there was a 500lb+ guy who got beat by some jap

the guy was barely a fighter, tho
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What did my Teppu bros think of MMA 193?
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>>133903888
pity. rousey might have been a bitch, but she actually got exposure. that's huge.
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>>133903888
It was perfect.
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>>133903517
Bruce Lee was famous for that kind of shit wasn't he?
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>>133903707
yeah but you know most of the times here on /a/ that kind of reply usually swings the way you just mentioned, so I kind of assumed it was most likely that way (though in this context it was kind of hard to interpret it I guess)
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>>133903798
I mean like a fair fight between two trained fighters. Maybe the smaller one just knowing more about fighting.
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>>133903979
He was?
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>>133903888
>person getting exposed so hard they are going to quit fighting and do movies
Its good for her she broke into a secondary career that will become her primary one, but its hilarious how tough she has acted and now will almost certainly quit.
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Kycilia Zabi.
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>>133903888
I don't know pretty much anything about the world of MMA, but is Karen's opponent supposed to pay homage to someone in the MMA scene? I think I saw someone who looked very much alike her and I think I read that she is a very important figure in MMA.
I'm not able to open the webm at the moment, so I don't know whether she might be in it though it might be.
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Is Teppu good?
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>>133881065
I know you're a fatasses, but stand-up out of your chairs right now and do exactly what she did. Step left, right cross, right knees. You'll see why this shit is impossible and makes no fucking sense.

Dropped before I even picked it up
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>>133904719
Autism.
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>>133904821
Can't get out of the chair, can you? It's not too late.
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>>133904573
Yeah. A bit cheesy with the story and writing here and there, but the characters make up for it in spades.
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Only the best.
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>>133904821
It's not really autism if the main appeal is supposedly fighting.
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>>133880974
>also lesbian
That's probably the norm more than it is a rarity.
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>>133904573
I've read all of it and I think it's good. On the surface it's a story about the villain of a shounen seeking to defeat a character one would usually see as the MC of a shounen. So basically a shounen told from the villains perspective. Though, as I said before, that's only the surface of it and how it's usually sold, there's more to it than just that. Some things are left vague and therefore hard to understand, but I think there exists enough information presented for one to be able to figure those things out.
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>>133879559
Kuroko is the perfect example of a good female protagonist in seinen.
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>>133904985
The main appeal in it isn't the fighting. It's the lewd.

>>133904719
Looks more like a feint with an awful lot of follow through. Her fist in the second panel is angled down because she's preparing to grab.

Not that she needs to grab from behind when kneeing someone who's tackling. Unless it's a really awkward knee because the whole position is awkward. I don't know man, I'm not some bullshit strong manga girl.
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>>133904915
One thing I enjoyed a lot, was her love for her father, hell I really appreciated the positive role men played in her life, and it wasn't at the cost of her femininity. Also to answer op "Lady Snowblood," "Sasori," and "Sukeban Arashi."
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>>133881065
you can feint the punch, and grab the head. its a doable move retard
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I don't get the Teppu MC. She's a bitch with tons of talent, sure, I get that, I don't get her motivation beyond being a bitch.
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>>133907980
She's bored and lonely at the top.

OP here sorry about the recommendation thread next time I'll make it a waifu thread, then people will actually enjoy it instead of being a shitter.
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>>133879666
I want her to call me oniichan
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>>133908129
>OP here sorry about the recommendation thread next time I'll make it a waifu thread, then people will actually enjoy it instead of being a shitter.
And OP still haven't learn a damn thing.
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>>133904719
What the hell are you talking about? Have you ever practiced any martial arts before? The only impossible thing in that page is that she managed to land her knee on the dude before he got the tackle in. How in the world can you not lift your right knee after a left step?

Either I'm misunderstanding you heavily or you need to work on your flexibility, mate.
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>>133908129
How about you just try starting with actual discussion?
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>>133908129
This is loads better than waifu threads what are you saying
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>>133908375
I think you meant to say hasn't.
All I wanted to do was generate some discussion about interesting, strong, and competent female characters in the genre. A few anons mistook it for a recommendation thread and got pissy. Why the hell is /a/ so pissy about this but not the other 40 garbage waifu threads on the front page.
>>133908518
Maybe you're right, but last threads that I tried starting with discussion died within an hour with 2 replies. So I tried something different and got attention in the form of anger. I feel like the only way to get /a/'s attention is either piss them off or appeal to the stupid waifu and pandering the media has evolved into.

Next time anons I'll try something different.
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>>133908819
Because rec threads can be removed, you can't do shit to the waifu threads at this point. Plus waifu threads can lead to some actual discussion of the show every now and then.
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>>133908819
>Next time anons I'll try something different.
You are approaching this issue the wrong way.

Look, I'm the guy who recommended a whole bunch of diverse manga and anime with outstanding female leads in seperate posts early in the thread. Later on, other people posted stuff even I couldn't think of off the top of my head. And look how much discussion was fostered even after that.

Ask yourself: so WHAT if a couple of retards make shitposts about hurr durr we dunn rike no rec threads you pleb?

FUCK

THEM

This is a free, open, anonymous community. If some dipshits don't like the particular way in which you want to start a discussion, you should tell them to go fuck themselves!

They are doing nothing but shitting up the thread, and neither you, nor anyone else on this board owes them a god damned thing.
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>>133905345
>The main appeal in it isn't the fighting.
For you.
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>>133909148
I don't mean that to say that I agree with the fucknugget who thinks Hagure Idol's fights are bad.
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>>133909055
>look at how much discussion was fostered even after that
There's a discussion about muscles ans how men are stronger than women, some random shit about Teppu and the metaposting we're doing now. Everything else is someone posting a character and one or two people agreeing, like every rec thread.
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>>133908908
I was going to reply until>>133909055 posted something. Thanks anon, I like you. I think I'll just continue the thread now. I think Saki from the new world is an excellent candidate even if she cries a whole bunch. She's pretty resilient to almost any horrors she has witnessed. Is Utena a good show to attempt to get into she seems pretty based.
>>133909252
Depends on the women, some women have naturally more testosterone and can be pretty strong. But yes I agree on average women are weaker then men aside from a few outliners.
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>>133879559
Without shit.
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>>133909252
...and your problem is? Who cares where the discussion momentarily veers off to, the longer the thread stays alive and the longer OP's thread has a chance of being found by someone who posts anime and manga with outstanding female characters that have not yet been posted in this thread, the better it is for OP.

Let the useful idiots do their job of being useful idiots.
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>>133909330
Which Saki are you talking about?

And you are just going to have to experience Utena yourself. You will either recoil like fuck or never experience anything better in your life.
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>>133909330
My point was the muscle discussion isn't even board related, all the discussion other than the few posts about Teppu is off topic bullshit and that anon is just another contrarian who shits on board culture without understanding its purpose.
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>>133879559
Not exactly anime, but...
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Birdy Cephon Altera from Birdy The Mighty in most incarnations. She's an elite alien cop with an impulsive streak, but still street smart and capable. She's also something of a (non-sexual) older sister to the male MC.
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>>133909487
Saki Watanabe. The main character who narrates her whole life in the show. I'll put it on planned to watch.
>>133909564
I saw the original and loved it. But not really a fan of the decodes couldn't get passed episode 5.
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>>133909402
>and your problem is?
There's barely any discussion that's actually about anime and manga. The only value it has is as a rec thread, and those aren't even technically allowed on here, you get warned for them when they're obvious.
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>>133909564

She was... Smiling...
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>>133909330
>Is Utena a good show to attempt to get into she seems pretty based.
Yes, but if you're a purityfag or hate characters with flaws and damage, then you should skip it.
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>>133909528
Fuck off with your board culture horseshit. So what, Bartender threads should not be alllowed to discuss alcoholic drinks? Captain Tsubasa threads should not be allowed to discuss the world dup?

Who the fuck are you, you goddamn asshat, to decide what people may or may not discuss on a website you don't own?
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>>133909643
Decode s1 is a bit of a slow burn, but it really picks up as it goes, and most people seem to like season 2 much better.
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>>133909643
Oh, you mean the mahjongg anime?
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>>133909717
Birdy comes from the mid-80's/early-90's Dirty pair/Shirow school of thought where genki protagonists should cause massive destruction with a smile on their face.
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>>133909807
He means Shinsekai Yori.
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>>133909528
>all the discussion other than the few posts about Teppu is off topic bullshit

>the posts listing and talking about stuff with great female leads
>off topic bullshit
8 chan is >>>>>> that way.
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>>133909741
If the alcohol or world cup shit takes up the entire thread and the anime OP just becomes an excuse to post off topic shit then yeah. By the way, the rec thread rule is enforced by the mods newfag.
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>>133909662
>There's barely any discussion that's actually about anime and manga.
Who the fuck made you judge?
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>>133909807
This anime anon.
>>133909776
I'll give it another try.
>>133909737
I'm totally okay with that.
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>>133896933
he is in the omake though
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>>133909883
Real-life stuff that directly relates to the subject matter of a work is not "off topic shit" you fucking mongoloid.

Oh, and instead up sucking up to the mods' asses, you should be asking for some new mod-

Wait, you're a little bitch, other, more thoughtful people will just have to do it in your stead.
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>>133879559
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>>133903356
>>133885013
Who did?
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>>133910035
She did.
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>>133879559
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>>133909989
So when I say something doesn't belong I have no right because I don't own the site, when you say something does despite the people who run the site disagreeing, you're right because mods are fags. Great logic. Fuck it, it's too late for me to care anymore, go fill up your backlog.
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>>133889793
I'm pretty sure the person lying down on the ground is a woman.
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>>133910223
Yeah but what's her name?
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>>133910264
The difference between us is that you would stifle discussion, while I would let it flourish.

I'll just let you figure out which attitudes belongs in a civilized society for yourself.
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>>133902730
clicked thread to see if chihaya had been mentioned

left satisfied
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Say what you want about Terra Formars' story, but Sasuga can write some really good characters.
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>competent
Not overwhelmingly so given how insane her universe is, but can deliver when the chips are down.
>strong
Driven, independent, will approach a task in her own unique manner
>reduced to tsun or something dumb
Does being a perpetually horny lesbian count?
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>>133910524
The difference between us is our definition of discussion, but whatever, being confrontational will get me nowhere and I'm too tired to try and actually convince you of anything.
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>>133896451
All the women are drawn so voluptuously though.
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>>133910235
I hate to agree with this because I don't particularly like ryuko as a character but I have to admire that aside from the fact that the show was probably a thinly veiled metaphor for female puberty and sexual objectification, I respect that she basically seems like a male shounen protagonist with a vagina dealing with female issues. She isn't shoved into a stereotypical female anime role/personality
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>>133911338
>a thinly veiled metaphor for female puberty and sexual objectification
I absolutely LOVE how in Kill La Kill women literally become more powerful the less ashamed and more proud they become of their body.
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>>133911131
And they're shown naked nowhere near as often as the MC. At least they weren't when I last read it.
>>133911338
Male shounen protag with a vagina kind of is a stereotypical female anime role at this point.
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>>133903888
>MMA 193

Casuals just heem urselves

It was fun seeing the lie crumble around Ronda after everyone bought into the idea that she was unbeatable.
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>>133911338
>he show was probably a thinly veiled metaphor for female puberty

Explain.
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>>133914811
>powers fueled by regular sacrifice of blood
>upon this sacrifice they get to wear skimpy outfits which reveal their bodies and give them power over their opponents.
Come the fuck on, man. Even I saw that
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I wish Teppu updated more often.
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>>133915370
it's finished, anon. scanlated and everything.
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>>133915442

Oh fuck, you're right. It's over so soon? What happened, did the author croak or something?
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>>133916026
he just was given the opportunity to finish, and wanted to before he couldn't. the ending is left open for him should he stay healthy.
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>>133916163

Damn, well that's a shame. At least she got to fight that creepy girl.
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>>133879559
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>>133881065
>beating a man

Now THAT is some funny comedy
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>>133879559
next mango when?
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I want a strong female character that isn't a badass and not in magicalspacechanbaraland.
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Too many strong female characters fall into the hit something as hard as you can territory, Akane strength comes from her ideals, and the philosophy that guides her worldview. Her ability to physically kick ass comes up on twice, and it doesn't lead to that silly smirk you see in some works, it existed express character, while her counterparts were fighting physically, she was fighting with her words.
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>>133879559
>What are some good examples of competent and strong female characters in anime and manga that aren't reduced to tsun or something dumb. Natsuo comes to mind.
MAKE WAY FOR THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME "competent and strong female characters in anime and manga that aren't reduced to tsun or something dumb"
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>>133910235
>strong
because she's not human but is mentally unstable and fragile as shit.

>competent
didn't do shit but get wrecked and played by satsuki and everyone else in KLK (including Mako)
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>>133881065
Is this bitch r63 Joachim Hansen
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The Dirty Pair
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>>133919985
Amuro what are you doing? Stop think of what Sayla would say!
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The main heroines from:

Saishu heiki Kanojo
Shakugan no Shana
Ghost Sweeper Mikami
Claymore
Garasu no Kantai
Gunsmithcats
Bubble gum crisis
Appleseed
Patlabor
Pumpkin Scissors
Minamike
Gunslinger Girl
Escaflowne
Blood +
Shana
Kyuuketsuki Miyu
Kanoji Kareshi no jijou
OOkami to koushinryou
Noir
Dirty pair
KIddy Grade
Chevalier
Gasaraki
Iria the Animation
Utena
Mai Hime
R.O.D.
Sky Girls
Madlax
Cat's Eyes
Slayers
Shadow Skill
Devil man Lady
Silent Moebius

.... There are too many to list up.
Tenchi Muyou
Taihou shichauzo
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>>133920143
>When Lalah gets brought up and I've had a few too many.
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>>133889372
Same here, the art grows on you and contributes into the unique atmosphere.
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>>133886004
I just remembered this manga. Now I want more.
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undercurrent.
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>>133879559
Mai is competent and fairly strong and she's not tsun. She's very kind instead.
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>>133920371
Wow, good taste.
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>>133892225
This post reminded me to go back and watch the show.

Thanks for that, anon.
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