Please explain to me why spoonfeeding is not only tolerated,

Google it.

Mods are new

>>133876767
nobody has time to fucking google anymore

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>>133876767
Ill bite OP give us some more info to work with, what exactly do you mean?

Too many newfags. /a/'s self-moderation goes down considerably every year.

>>133876767
What the heck is spoonfeeding?

>>133876767
/a/ is dead, you experience the neo-/a/.

>>133877146
Helping someone.

>>133877438
>neo
>>>/v/

When I see threads I don't like, I don't post in them

Weird notion

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Because I hate /a/ and I hate you, OP.

>>133877699
We finally found the culprit.

>>133876859
/thread

Because the autists left and spoonfeeding helps threads staying on topic

>source?
>source.
>thanks

And the thread continues in opposite to

>source?
>Fukc off
>LOL
>>>>/r/
>fuck off, you elitist assholes
>Fuck off, /v/
some guy actually give source
>WOOOOW /a/ IS DEAD
>CANCER CANC CANCER CANCAER
>HUUUUUUUUURRR

And so on. I did that one time, samefagging 2 posts and instantly killing the entire thread.
So yeah, only autists and shitposter don't give the source.

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>>133876767
But by answering we would have to help, and thus be spoonfeeding you. But if we didn't than we may never know as to why spoonfeeding is seeping into to the norm. Holy shit.....

>>133877529
I lol'd

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>>133876767
You know how "desu" and "senpai" are tolerated/commonplace now because reporting it didn't do anything? You know how EVERYTHING is tolerated/commonplace now because reporting it never did anything? And then how they become "culture" because people allowed it long enough?
It's like that.

>>133877939
Desu and Senpai only got tolerated after the word filter.

>>133876767
Because you allowed sadpanda threads, which are stealth rec threads, to flourish.

Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.

/a/ sat and laughed while the other boards burned

Now it's your turn

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>>133877790

Yui has done nothing wrong. Plz no bully.

>>133877856
>spamming sauce
>on topic
This isn't /r/

>see pic out of nowhere
>ask for clues so we could force discussions
>fuck off newfag/lurk more faggot

Wow nice board culture.

>>133876767
Because Google reverse-image searches don't always work? I always try before I ask, and anons will help if they know that.

>>133878032
>one post asking for the source
>spamming
Nice try, /a/litist.

>>133878050
>I always try before I ask
No you don't. All you need to say is that google gave nothing and the newfriends will spoonfeed you.

>>133878050
Reverse searching cropped frames of ero doujinshi tends not to be the most fruitful of endeavours.

People will still be dicks about it though.

>>133878149
Have you never been in an OPT?

>>133878187
I could just say that... But I actually do try. Alas, my Google-fu is weak.

>>133877856
Pragmatically, the easiest way to keep the thread on topic is to ignore it and not respond at all.

>>133878276
They are LITERALLY rec threads. They is no discussion or thread topic.
Asking for source is basically the entire point of these threads.
Especially when some faggots post cropped pages.

>>133876767
>muh my google is better than your google
I give sauce if I know it and they've tried yandex, moe and google.

The way it should be.

>>133878422
I give sauce if I know it

The way it should be.

Because refusing to answer when somebody asks "what is this" (aside from cases where the answer is so obvious that the asker must have a terminal case of newfaggotry) is just being a dick. It doesn't help promote some sort of board culture. It's especially dumb in OPTs, in wich the explicit goal is to convince someone to read something, and you can't really do that if they don't know what it is that they're looking at.

On another note, though, OPTs ARE fucking cancer. They're just veiled rec threads.

>>133878460
Nah m8. Give a virgin a sauce and he'll feast for a day, teach a virgin to sauce and he'll feast for a lifetime

>>133877856
>Spoonfeeding helps threads stay on topic
Nah, if you've ever been on a sad panda or one page thread, you'll know that spoon feeding perpetuates more spoonfeeding, then you get a thread where half of the anons in there are begging for sauce instead of googling or reading the file name. Spoon feeding isn't good for the thread or the anon.

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Why is /a/ the only board that flips the fuck out when someone asks for sauce?

>>133876767
We could just ignore them. Like imagine if your eyes were batteries and paying attention to things you want rid of were annoying loud toys. Would you put the batteries in the toy just to make yourself made about the noise?

>>133878461
They're not though. The average thread gets maybe one recommendation request.

>>133876767
>spoonfeeding
>encouraged
only by newfags.

>>133878506
sorry, your shitty meme psalm is not an argument.

>>133878578
sekrit club mentality
It's weeb hipsterism at its finest.

>>133878362
>Asking for source is basically the entire point of these threads.
no. posting interesting things for you to pick up is. you should be capable of finding sauce on your own.

>>133878641
If you teach people how to look for sauce, then it decreases sauce requests naturally, and only leaves those where sauce is hard/impossible to find.

Not like your post was an argument in the first place.

>>133878650
>you should be capable of finding sauce on your own.
Do you even realize that google image search works different, depending on your country?

>>133878578
because spoonfeeding fosters entitlement and idiocy. most requests could be easily served by GIS/iqdb/the archive etc.

>>133878586
The whole concept is basically community recc'ing.

>>133878693
There are other ways retard. Yandex, moe, common sense. And if you still can't find it, then it's ok to ask for sauce.

>>133878702
>iqdb
kek

>>133878693
>implying google is the only option
>implying it never works

>>133878702
>because spoonfeeding fosters entitlement and idiocy

That's a hell of an assumption cap'n.

>>133878714
90% of threads on here is either someone posting about a show/manga/VA/artist/mangaka they like or a dislike, which in itself is a form of recommendation.

Should we also get rid of those so we only have shitposting left?

>>133878747
>people ask for sauce
>check it myself
>takes 2 clicks to find it
feeding them would just teach them to be lazy instead of looking themselves

It's a new form of shitposting.
Speaking of which anyone need some help identifying something? I've got a few minutes.

Not all image are image search-able. Of course they would ask later.

>>133878747
Encouraging laziness is bad for the board. There used to be a rec sticky. It's gone for a reason.

>>133878461
I'm looking at the current OPT right now and people do due diligence there, barely ask for sauce and even try to decipher runes.

They're doing it right.

>>133878833
sometimes you can search for the right tags too. be a bit creative.

if you really need to ask for sauce then show what you have already tried. if you put enough effort into it and still failed then someone might be willing to help.

the issue with spoonfeeding is when people ask for the most simple and obvious things.

>>133878650
> They is no discussion or thread topic.
It's actually decent for discussing manga that don't have enough interest for their own threads.

>>133878833
/r/ exists you faggot.

i want /v/ to leave.

>>133856635 found the artist at least
>>133856136 he tried at least, >>133859462 tried harder
>>133870620 tried and almost got it
>>133865053 too generic as a reply

give a man a mango and you feed him for a day; teach a man to obtain sauce and you feed him for a lifetime

Most things are found with google, or typing in some names/terms on the screencap + anime/manga, but not always. The problem lies with the blanket treatment of asking for sauce; even if there's no way to find sauce on your own, asking is still verboten.

I only give sauce to series i think are obscure. I usually don't give sauce to h-manga/doujin

>>133877856
No it doesn't keep the thread on topic you fucking shitposter. If the thread is out of thing to discuss then let it die naturally, keeping it alive by shitposting will invite nothing but shitposting, by the off chance if someone got some good topic to discuss in the thread you keep alive by shitpost, the thread would by swarmed with shit by that point.

>>133879058
you need to prove that you tried to be resourceful. if your post consists of

>sauce plz?
or
>I tried google (it's a webm and has metadata)
>iqdb gives nothing (it's a pixiv filename)
>saucenao gives nothing (it's a twitter filename)
etc.

then you will be told to fuck off.

Asking the right questions is key.

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>>133878001
Fuck, mang

Sometimes I wish rec threads were allowed because I have very specific interests sometimes, interests that can't be fulfilled by a google search. "Girls who mostly act asexual but occasionally show interest in men" is not the most searchable term.

Please explain to me why Naruto is not only tolerated, but actually encouraged now.

>>133879193
moot trolling

Its not. Spoonfeeding should be a bannable offense. The only times it is even borderline acceptable is if you need to find the name of a highly obscure 1960s anime or manga or you need help finding the name of a doujin that just can't be found with a simple Google search (because everything nowadays is a Google search away).

>>133876767
Been here almost since the beginning and personally I'm over the bullshit. As long as it's not a rec thread I'll gladly give a source if I know it and it's not easily googled.

I'm all for board culture but autism should never be the basis of denying someone information. Some of us actually don't give a shit whether the info is easily obtained or not, we just hate giving sources and I personally think that's counterproductive. Feel free to disagree.

>>133876767
I don't encourage spoonfeeding, but if the person searched and couldn't find it not telling them what it is just makes you a dick.

The only thing that gives consistent results is the archive, which recently lost a shit ton of data. Google results vary, yandex isn't very reliable, and searching ex is a shot in the dark.

>>133879193
Because faggots like you keep making the threads.

>>133879057
No one teaches here how to obtain sauce though.

>>133879193
Without resorting to "t-the fanbase!" give a credible reason why it shouldn't be.

>>133879193
Anti-Naruto posting became far worse than Naruto posting, to the point that the spammers were actually harming the board more than Narutards.

>>133879020
>too generic as a reply
What?

How else is he supposed to say that? Have you never just seriously gotten 0 results? It happens quite often.

>>133879242
You teach yourself or lurk moar.

>>133879242
that's not true

>lurk
>see some idiot ask for sauce
>people shit on him
>insults mixed with what he should have done (lol, faggot can't even read webm metadata)

you can learn from other people's failures

>>133879213
Leave it to a tripfag to make no sense at all.

Do you not realize how subjective it is to say "spoonfeeding is never okay - that is unless it's from the 60s".

That's retarded. Why not the 80s? Who's to say how easily known something is? You're just making up arbitrary rules.

Because of all the /v/tards and shit here that want to make the board more like home. Thing is, the kind of people shouting "sauce!!" is usually the kind we wouldn't want posting here anyway.

The 'elitism' can get dickish (like people intentionally trying to fuck up searches for laughs) but damn if little things don't help. Just go to "fuck rules" boards like /tv/ and witness shit like the kuck porn that says up for hours.

>>133879161
Rec threads are very much allowed. You just have to be subtle about it.

>>133876767
Shit mods, huge influx of newfags, you name it.

>>133879298
certainly, it has happened to me, but that's also what people say when they are too lazy to search or use the wrong tools.

>>133876767
Sauce on pic?

>>133879256
Honestly, the fanbase was so terrible that, whatever the show's merits, it wouldn't have been worth it. Banning Naruto was a net positive.

>>133879370
Sakurafish

>>133879161
That's when you fool around with search terms and tags. Kuudere and related stuff could be useful to try, MU probably has asexual tags or something like that, or you could Google terms like "doesn't show an interest in men" with other terms to limit it to manga summaries. If you're desperate, TVTropes might have some categories for similar stuff, or MU might have some threads about it, since I think their forums have an outright rec section.

>>133879363
So if I said "no results on google or yandex" for a page. would you assume I didn't try hard enough? I see no point in saying "and the archive, and ex" since those two are very unreliable. Hell, I usually just say "no google results" since Yandex is a crapshoot that has recognized a page for me a whole two times.

>>133879161
It's not even an /a/ thing, finding new anime is just so goddamn easy that you can tell someone is new to the medium if they don't have a backlog already. I'm talking seriously watching anime for 3-weeks sort of new.

All you have to do is think of a show you liked and google "anime like x" and you'll see a load of discussions pop up where people give recs. This is common sense shit.

Also another thing is that the deeper you go into the medium, the more subjective people's tastes get. Even if we did rec you some shows it's no likely to help you because we all have different pallets after a certain point.

Long story short you just have to watch things on your own and decide for yourself.

>>133879193
Generalfags are worse. Look at that shitty Kantai thread. It's just full of garbage that mods would easily delete if they were threads. They're all posts that break rule 6. They need to fuck off already.

>>133879449
either you should show that you also tried something else specific to that image or you should post a screenshot of that google search as evidence that you're not just lazy.

showing that you know what you're doing is important.

i mean, sure, someone might feed you anyway, but someone who is averse to spoonfeeding might be more inclined to respond if you're not just a leeching newfag.

>>133879356
You just have to put some thought into it. Which is exactly what /a/ wants. If you still don't get any answers, well then too bad. Try again.

Being anti-spoonfeeding is literally a shitty meme from /h/ from a few years ago.

Newfags pretending to be oldfags adopted it because it made them feel smug and superior. Now even newer newfags think it's how /a/ "used to be".

>>133879298
Half the time when people say that, they didn't actually try, or they tried one method and gave up (if it's in the archive, you have no excuse for asking for sauce), or you ask for proof and they post screenshots of a page full of Korean results they didn't bother Google Translating.

>>133879502
>post a screenshot of that google search as evidence that you're not just lazy.
wastes image limit

So long as someone types composed and polite without an utterly generic response, and the series isn't exactly famous, I'll lend a hand.

>>133879537
You should be banned for shitposting this hard.

>>133879549
yeah, it depends on context. normally it shouldn't be necessary. but on occasion it is.

>>133879121
What you said in no way made any sense in response to what he said. What he was saying was that autists freaking out about people asking for sauce derails threads.

>>133878737
And there is always that option to FUCKING LURK MORE. Only a child would throw a tantrum when he doesn't get his candy today, then again, 4chan is filled with manchildren.

>>133879496
This. It's like /c/ doesn't even exist. I mean it's basically a fucking chat thread and it's allowed because /a/-babbies can get away with anything.

>make shit crops
>convert from png to gif
>flip
>erase some pixels
>post on /a/

It's so strange why people ask.

>Wow, stop being lazy!
>All you had to do was google it!
>And then browse the archive where you realize all results of the picture you wanted were posted as reaction images with no source!
>And then look at the gook pages hoping to figure out the title so you can machine translate some garbled bastardization of the name!
>See? Easy as shit!

>>133879588
You should be banned for being a bandwagoning newfag.

>>133879606
This. If I don't get source once I've done as much sleuthing as I'm willing to do for that image, I usually just don't bother asking. There's no shortage of stuff to read, and I'll probably see the show or manga posted again at some point.

>>133876767
I RECOGNIZE THAT OREGAIRU UNIFORM

I think the most cancerous aspect are the people who don't want others watching/reading something they enjoy on the basis of "more fans will turn the threads to shit!!"

I mean, I get it, but holy shit you have almost no precedence to prove that would even happen from 1 more person knowing. It's pure autism.

>>133879606
>>133879644

So what kind of person throws a tantrum because someone gave someone else candy?

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>>133876767
because it triggers /a/utists and oldfags

and it makes the place seem nicer without people being dicks for no reason, so people will keep doing it stay mad

>>133879612
>because /a/-babbies can get away with anything
There's no need to add this. Generals are a problem across a lot of boards as I see it.

>>133879626
>I Googled it like they said, but, but then, I had to right-click to translate the page, and no one told me I'd have to do two things to get it!
Grow the fuck up.

>>133879672
What kind of person gets mad at a grown adult crying and begging the crowd for candy? Most people, actually.

>>133879674
I've seen enough situations happen here to know that if a group begs hard enough, they will get their way. Maybe it happens on all boards but it seems especially true for /a/.

I mean we straight up have Naruto here on solely because they forced it enough. Same goes for everything else that doesn't belong. I feel like mods see /a/ differently because it's an original board.

>>133879626
It is easy.
>Google
One click
>archive
Two to get into view same
>Yandex
drag and drop, possibly one click
>other searching options
One clic

Right click context menu can add more convenience.

If you don't find the source immediately you may have to spend - gasp! - upwards of two minutes looking before calling it a day and asking.

>>133879502
So, who's the entitled one in this situation? The one demanding that others earn the right to have access to your knowledge, or the people just asking a simple fucking question?

This is the stupidest, most pretentious shit. This isn't a matter of board culture, it's a matter of common courtesy. If someone asks you a general knowledge question that you know the answer to, just fucking tell them.

This is along the lines of when someone asks what time it is and you get a dumb ass smile on your face and say "time to get a watch!"

Why is this thread is still up? Ah, right.

I don't think people appreciate just how different /a/ is from most other pockets of Western anime fandom. For the sake of having its own sensibility, I'm glad it evolved the traditions that it did.

>>133879719
>I mean we straight up have Naruto here on solely because they forced it enough. Same goes for everything else that doesn't belong.
Do you actually think anime doesn't belong here just because a group of autists don't like it?

>>133879588
Actually, he's right. There was no reason to sperg out about spoonfeeding before image searching, anyway, as there wasn't an actual way to acquire the answer on your own half the time.

Putting all of the reasonings aside, /a/ is not a place to ask for sauce and that's all there is to it. Even if you ran out of self search options you still don't have the right to ask for sauce here, go to some other place and ask.

>>133879719
If you didn't know, it's even worse on other boards.

>because they forced it
It wasn't Narutofags that caused the shift, it was moot and the mods babysitting threads for months. There are mods babysitting generals threads as well unfortunately.

>>133879721
>- upwards of two minutes looking before calling it a day and asking.
And then cue the autists screaming about how no spoonfeeding and how they got a million results because they can't comprehend google personalizes search results and not everyone gets the same ones.

>>133879726
>The one demanding that others earn the right to have access to your knowledge, or the people just asking a simple fucking question?
The guy refusing to give his knowledge to others sure isn't entitled. That's not how being entitled works.

>common courtesy
Oh, wow. The same courtesy that won't let you call people faggots? Fuck off.

>>133879745
I don't take issue with it, I was merely illustrating a point.

>>133879626
>were posted as reaction images with no source!
first of all, wanting a source on reaction images doesn't happen that often. and even when it is the case you can just comb through threads and often find them in show-specific threads

>gook pages hoping to figure out the title so you can machine translate some garbled bastardization of the name!
if you have the japanese name then you shouldn't run it through machine translations, you should work your way to the official title instead which can then be plugged into amazon/wikipedia/baka-updates/ex/whatever

Your detective-work sucks dick.

>>133879726
No, this is like someone with a watch on asking me what time it is and me telling them to check their own fucking watch.

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Saucefags crying for someone else to do their work for them and the spoonfeeders who encourage them are cancerous.

If spoonfeeding continues to be more and more accepted the quality of the board will get lower and lower as we slowly become overwhelmed by waves of newfags who don't lurk and don't bother figuring anything out for themselves. This kind of attitude is what's wrong with the Millenial generation. Unrestrained sense of entitlement. It's disgusting.

Begging for sources and spoonfeeding those who do should both be bannable offenses.

>>133879781
I said GOOK, dipshit. Nips aren't gooks.

>>133879673
>it makes the place seem nicer without people being dicks
"Seem" is important here. Go to any forum if you want a place where everyone "seems" nice. You'd think the attacks a week ago would teach people the cost of trying hard not to "seem" like a dick.

>>133879753
Sure, but half the time it's the most obvious shit that people ask source for, and most of them don't even bother trying to search themselves
It's like standing in front a library and then having a retard ask where the books are.

>>133879769
I am not defending those idiots. If I'm in a thread with people like that, I usually call them out for their bullshit.

It's been years and still people don't realize Google results are changed depending on...something. It's not personalized, since I get different results with personalization completely off, but it's something. Location, I guess.

>>133879769
> google personalizes search results
You know you can turn that off, right?

>>133879777
But that example isn't really helping.

>>133879673
>being dicks for no reason
except there is a reason you retard

>>133879726
>right to have access to your knowledge
yes, if you think that it's your god-given right to have access to my brain then that's entitlement

>common courtesy
suck my dick

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>>133876767
Newfags
We have an entire board for them because of it now
Why won't they use it

>>133878518
To be fair, half of OPT are sauce baits as the file names are random page numbers and google image search usually returns squat

>>133879812
That anon was wrong. Google changes results, but it's not based on search history. I get no results sometimes while others do get results despite having long turned off the feature.

>>133879814
>if a group begs hard enough, they will get their way
>uses the most hated show/group on the board getting allowed because people begged as an example
It sounds like a pretty helpful example to me.

>>133879806
i know, but you know, mongolian wall paintings and all that, you never know.

>>133879773
>The guy refusing to give his knowledge to others sure isn't entitled.
Uh, yeah, he is. If you're demanding that people prove themselves to you just to get you to answer a simple fucking question, you're an entitled, narcissistic douche.

And fuck off, common courtesy isn't PC nonsense, it's just not being a dick.

If I can't find the source, I can't find the source. I don't understand all the analpain. Finding source is half the fun in OPT.

>>133879805
>If spoonfeeding continues to be more and more accepted the quality of the board will get lower and lower
This conspiracy theory isn't true at all. Rec threads don't last long and when the mods are on their job they're usually stomped out.

On the other hand, merely asking within a thread is fine. Do you know why? Because it's easily ignored. When people like you get worked up and your autism triggers, your posts against someone asking for sauce derails entire threads. In these instances YOU'RE the problem. You have no self restraint.

>>133879795
It's really not. It's like someone who can't find their watch at the moment, doesn't want to look for it, and so they ask you to save a little time.

>>133879837
you can also change the language context which it is using for search. and then there are some genuine retards who have safe search on.

i know google can be fairly inconsistent at times, but there still are common pitfalls to avoid.

>>133876767
Because /a/ has gone to shit lately. More people have to encourage the Lurk More mentality. It's one of the things that was keeping /a/ clean.

>>133879809
>Sure, but half the time it's the most obvious shit that people ask source for

I don't think that's true. At least, most of the times I've seen it, someone will ask for sauce on something that's just beginning to make its way out of obscurity, and someone spergs out about it.

>>133879852
>I'M NEW HERE, YOU MUST CONFORM TO MY NEEDS!

This is you.

>>133879852
That's not entitlement, anon. Entitlement is feeling you deserve something, and while you could make some twisted logic argument that "they feel they deserve you not being stupid", no it's supposed to be something more tangible. The person begging even when the answer is easily within reach feels like they are ENTITLED to an answer. The person telling them to fuck off is doing so because that entitled brat is a CUNT.

And it has nothing to do with narcissism. What the fuck do you think narcissism means?

>>133879852
>it's just not being a dick.
so? why should I be nice to you? you want something from me.

>>133879856
we wouldn't have a problem if everyone thought like you

>>133879852

I think you're confused about what entitlement means.

If you feel you are ENTITLED to an answer to your every question and that anyone who holds you to a higher standard and expects you to learn to get said answer yourself is "an entitled narcissistic douche," then it is most definitely you who has an overblown sense of entitlement. That narcissistic douche is actually trying to help you in the long run, and to preserve the quality of the place you are trying to shit up and turn into one giant newfag Q&A session.

>>133879852
>Uh, yeah, he is. If you're demanding that people prove themselves to you just to get you to answer a simple fucking question, you're an entitled, narcissistic douche.
What am I acting entitled to? The knowledge I already have? You're just throwing around insults without bothering to think if they apply.

>>133879908
>Because /a/ has gone to shit lately
Has nothing to do with recs and everything to do with mods allowing generals galore.

>>133878747

you don't want this board turn into a normalfag shithole filled with flipfag weebs, tumblrinas or MAL retards do you?

>>133879828
No, it's just that people shouldn't have to jump through hoops and prove themselves to you to get you to answer a question that would take half a second to give. To demand that of people IS entitled.

If Naruto fans were willing to lobby for years to be let inside, that indicates something way further than simply enjoying a show. It indicates a group wanting to make a statement with their mere presence. That they see themselves as interlopers, and that they're proud of this.

>>133879943
generals aren't a new problem though. enforcement has varied throughout the years. most of the time mods have been lazy with some occasional crackdowns.

>>133879878
> someone who can't find their watch at the moment, doesn't want to look for it, and so they ask you to save a little time
Okay, fine. And I would totally be okay with that, if it were a friend, or even if it were one guy on the subway asking me once. But if you're in a room with a hundred people and twenty of them keep standing up individually to ask if anyone has the time because they don't want to find their watch, pretty soon people are going to start telling them to find their watches instead of bothering everyone else to save their own time.

>>133879950
>Clicking several times.
Wow, that sure is hard.

>>133879950
Don't drink the kool-aid. You don't have to do shit besides saying you got zero results. If the anon knows so much about their obscure anime then they should be able to understand that without a gang of proof.

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>>133879950
You're making some damn fine worms, I'll give you that

>>133879950
see
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>>133879950

No. To think you are ENTITLED to an answer to your every question without putting in any effort yourself is entitlement. You clearly do not understand the meaning of the word.

>>133879899
I'm not sure how that would change anything. Most of the time I get results they're in...uh, Turkish? Some sort of fucked language, followed by Chinese/Korean, then maybe Japanese. If I ever get English results it's a lucky break or meme sites, which is the worst possibility but mercifully rare by comparison. At any rate, what I'm saying is I don't think that's what factors into image search results. I'm just some New Yorker, after all.

>>133879943
>Has nothing to do with recs
Recs were spammed to death even a few months ago.

>generals
Generals are a fucking plague, but they're pretty much immune to /a/'s mentality. Mods have to take care of that, but I doubt they will

>>133879950
No, it's not entitled at all. I'm not "entitled" to have them do that. They'll do it if they want me to help them. It's not a matter of deserving, it's a matter of capitalism.

>>133879916
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>>133879937

I really wish you could read this kind of laughable shit from the outside.

Look, I've been here from practically day one, and this isn't the attitude we used to have here. This is relatively more recent, and newfags like you just never knew any better and assumed that this is the way things always were.

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Entitlement and self-entitlement are different terms, just like how righteousness and self-righteousness are.

>>133880032
I wasn't commenting on "4chan culture", I was commenting on your incorrect use of words, moron.

>>133880032
>Look, I've been here from practically day one
I love this line every time I read it. I also love how you assume all sorts of things about me based on the fact that I think the other anon is misusing a word.

>>133880032
>We
Sure thing buddy.

>>133879597
>because spoonfeeding help the thread stay on topic

>>133879726
Go to reddit if you want a safe space you lazy cunt.

>>133880032
>>133880052
Oh, also, may as well say this: culture changes.

No shit, asking used to be no big deal. Guess what? It also used to be next to impossible to source images in the past. It used to be acceptable to use emoticons and talk like a total idiot, and while /v/ still does that, it's mostly scorned behavior here. People used to do a lot of things, SHIT CHANGED

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>>133880032

Sorry, newfags like me know the correct definition of the word entitlement? And learned ancientfags like yourself are in on the secret knowledge that it in fact means the opposite of the dictionary definition?

Do tell senpai.

>>133879849
Naruto is no really the most hated show and is was always allowed, despite few guys always bitch about it.

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>>133880032
2012 isn't day one.

>>133879973
But they are the biggest in my opinion. The lack of fags wanting to engage with the rest of the board is part of the reason this board is fucking devoid of any group activity, and unity. OC on the board as a whole has been in such a decline.

Why can't you guys just learn to take it easy?

>>133880104

Haha no. Looking back, it's the most hated.

>>133880114
asking for sauce was already frowned upon in 2012

>>133880016
That is one of the most laughably pseudo-intellectual things I've ever read.

You are posting on a fucking imageboard about discussing Chinese cartoons. By refusing to answer people's simple questions you're causing them a minor inconvenience at best, not witholding some earth-shattering wisdom. People aren't going to do shit for you, and that's why people continue to ask for sauce. Because they don't give a shit. This is why I call your line of thinking narcissistic- because it runs on the assumption that you and the ultimately meaningless knowledge you happen to have somehow puts you in some sort of elevated position.

>>133880104
>Naruto is no really the most hated show
What is, then? There are things that people agree are worse shows, but nothing I can think of that people actually hate like they do Naruto.

>>133880118
OC died when webm became a thing.

>>133880078
And your argument for why it does not made no sense in response to his.

>>133880146
That's still not what narcissism means.

>>133880146
>ask someone to give you information
>they aren't in an elevated position
I don't think you understand how transactions work.

>>133880114
Heh Thanks anon, I'm saving that pic.

>>133880138
you missed the whole newfag pretending to be an oldfag bit

>>133879665
Do you need to eat shit to know that it tasted bad?
There are more than enough cases out there proving how more people ruined a good fanbase.

>>133880161
And why would that be? It should be a completely new avenue, but it wasn't used. I mean, just yesterday there was that Chiyo thread with some webm some guy made and that had to be the first time I'd ever seen someone bother. This place has been slowly improving since Hiro came, but it's still got a ways yet.

>>133880091
If I wanted a safe space, I'd be there now instead of arguing with you.

>>133880098
I wasn't using the word incorrectly, you're just all being willfully obtuse and trying to avoid why I think your sort of behavior qualifies under that condition.

>>133880146
>that's why people continue to ask for sauce. Because they don't give a shit.

You are infuriatingly retarded, and can't seem to be bothered to look up the correct meanings of English words, nevermind the sources of images, but you are certainly right about this.

People who demand sauce do it because they don't give a shit. About rules or board culture, or the overall quality of the community they are shitting up.

Why are you people responding to this thread still

>>133880197
It's going to happen regardless of whether or not you rec someone the anime/manga.

Some shows are just destined to get popular from the moment the anime adaption is announced.

>>133880200
converting existing things into a new file format is not OC, nor does Hiro have anything to do with it

>>133880118
That's because the attitude outside of generals is generally bitter, angry, and unwelcoming.
Which I guess is the angle most of you were going for, "If I act like a completely irredeemable asshole, then newfags won't want to participate on /a/!", but now you guys are complaining that there aren't enough people to participate in group activities and other stuff like that so your plan didn't work.

>>133880200
editing images is easier than webms I guess. Not everyone has adobe premiere and an encoding pipeline set up and the patience to edit hundreds of frames.

>>133880201
>I'm not wrong, everyone else is just being willfully obtuse
Holy shit, I'm dying here.

>>133880226
I'm a mangafag. I only respond to metathreads and the rare manga thread that has any relevance to me.

>>133880180
Yeah, it kind of is. Overestimating one's own self-worth is a behavior associated with narcissism.

>>133880201

>it's not me, it's everyone else who is being willfully obtuse

Have you considered the possibility that you could just be wrong? And a total cunt?

>>133880241
Or rather, I should say, the plan worked, but you're still complaining.

>>133880226
meta threads are the only things worth it on this board

>>133880201
We live in an age where you are able to be proactive and not have to rely on others, and you get mad that someone requests you be proactive. You think the person who wants you to learn a skill (searching IS a skill) is being self-absorbed, you don't assume they're trying to help you so you never HAVE to ask questions in the first place.

And for the record, I ASK QUESTIONS. When I run out of options, or completely hit a wall, I ASK. And quite often, someone answers. I'll answer people in that position, too.

It's almost like extremes aren't necessary and you can in fact have the best of both worlds: the ability to quickly get an answer yourself rather than bothering others, or the option to ask when there are no solutions.

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>>133880226
the faster it gets to 500 posts the faster it will go away

>>133880241
It's always a balancing act. The line between keeping shit out and not turning everything to complete shit is far too thin.

>>133880251
Yes, the maybe four particular people here are being willfully obtuse. That isn't that much of a stretch. More people agreeing on something doesn't make it right- go to any tumblr or reddit hugbox to find that out.

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It really depends on the reason they had to ask and how they ask it.

Let's say anon sees a neat webm of an anime, and now wants to know the source. If he ignores the filename, disregards an image search, and doesn't look at the context of it being posted, then the only answer he's entitled to is how much of a faggot he is. If he does exhaust these options and is still at a loss, then he should explain that he couldn't find it on his own and ask politely for help.

This is an anonymous imageboard; we don't have Reddit Gold or karma as an incentive to be helpful, so self-reliance is always something that should be pushed.

>>133880226
/a/ metathreads bring up interesting points sometimes.

Stop being a shitter and just ignore it if you're incapable of actually discussing things.

>>133880263
It has to be extreme self-absorption to be narcissism, like a legitimate mental problem. Just thinking you're better than someone else doesn't make you a narcissist. You aren't a narcissist for thinking someone doing something stupid is being stupid.

That said, claiming it's about "being better than someone else" is completely missing the point in the first place.

>>133880155
Most people agree that Naruto is bad but there are also many who consider the show as salvageable. It's not at the same level as Rail Wars for example.
But ignoring how bad Naruto is, it's still anime and belongs here.

>>133880241
I hope you get cancer.

>>133880241
It's not that there aren't enough people. It's that these people are in their own sects and walled gardens built within the confines of /a/. It's not for a lack of people.

>>133880321
you forgot the metadata

>>133880366
Thanks. I hope I get cancer too.

>>133880367
Lack of people outside of those walls but still in /a/. I guess I should have been more clear.

>>133880367
generals are worse in my opinion. look at what madoka threads have become. tripfag circle-jerks.

i'd rather take non-discussion /c/ imagedumps than that. seriously, madoka has become undiscussable on /a/ due to them.

>>133880384
Nah, that's not fair because not everyone is using 4chanX.

>>133880412
Agreed. At least it's not pretending to be something it's not.

>>133880318

Yeah but that's not the case here. You are just wrong about a lot of things including what the words "entitlement" and "narcissistic" mean which, appropriately enough, you could have avoided being wrong about with a simple google search. The fact that your whole ill-conceived argument is about why other people should have to do your googling for you just makes it that much sweeter.

I couldn't have made up more perfect bait for this thread, but sadly I've begun to believe you are deadly serious.

>>133880417
Guess what? That means you're being a lazy cunt not worth helping out.

>>133880146
>By refusing to answer people's simple questions you're causing them a minor inconvenience at best, not witholding some earth-shattering wisdom.

Then I guess it's more the reason to not actually tell them. It's "a minor inconvenience", after all. Moreover, they learn more by actually looking it up themselves.

>People aren't going to do shit for you.

Actually, we do it for them. That way, they can do it for the board in the future.

>>133880448
What?
Because I use vanilla means I'm lazy?

>>133880417
>download webm
>open in player
>or use mediainfo

there are alternatives.

>>133880466
if you want sauce on webms, yes.

>>133880466
>let me NOT use any handy tools i have to find saus

>WHY WONT YOU SPOONFEED ME.

>>133880466
Possibly, or a newfag. You're lazy in the same way it'd probably take more effort for me to switch to the vanilla extension honestly.

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>>133880311
>thumbnail

>>133880323
Not to mention metathread gives lurker good knowledge about how things work around here. I used to learn a lot from this kind of threads.

>>133880417
http://regex.info/exif.cgi works for webm metadata.
No excuse.

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>"What's wrong with just giving people the source? It's no big deal."

>"Nothing wrong with dubbed anime/streaming, dude. Anime is anime."
>"u got a problem with me typin lik this?? c'mon dont be such an autist...lol topkek
>"There's way too much loli pedo waifushit on the board. We should change that."
>"Anime cosplay thread!!! No one hates hot chicks, don't tell me you only fap to drawings LOL"
>"Who's your favorite anime reviewer on Youtube?? btw check out what this guy on MAL said. Doesn't it just make you madd?!!"
>"Reporting offtopic? Fuck off to leddit with your muh sekrit club shit. /a/ is about anime fans, not anime. I just want to chill with my /a/migos :^)"

>>133880906
>I just want to chill with my /a/migos :^)
Every general thread. They don't even post in any other threads.

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>>133880906
I sure do love Hamtaro!

>>133880847
Why'd I watch that entire thing?
Spencer was the strongest engine by the way.
Not a surprise considering it was 2 times bigger than every other one there.

I didn't see the losers get covered in spaghetti though.

>>133878932
Blame the fishers, some of those who asked are actually innocent.
>>133878997
>/a/ actually cared about that /b/-tier shithole

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>>133881238
Oh, I can play a better card than that.

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>>133881891

>>133881891
And finally found it.
Thanks Google-fu.

>>133876767
Because apparently /a/'s demographic is 60+ year old women who can't learn how that magic box works.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with spoonfeeding.

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>>133876767

>>133876767

Why would I spoonfeed you the answer to that question?

Nice autosage fagmod

>>133882395
:^)

>>133880906
People really need to learn that secret clubs are an absolutely necessary thing in a fandom as prone to cancer as the anime fandom. Have you been around the Con crowd? Glanced even remotely at Gaia and ANN's forums? Hell, ever glance at another board when they're discussing anime? That slight hump, that slight barrier to entry prevents those types of faggots from entering and directs them to the cesspool hugboxes they wish to fester in. Do you want people who can barely use a search engine to be the same people you discuss things with on a daily basis?