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Is 10-bit even a thing anymore?

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Is 10-bit even a thing anymore?
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Yes, why wouldn't it be?

In fact, it's going to be even more of a thing in the future with 4K Blu-rays being confirmed for using 10-bit HEVC.
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>>133866167
the shilling continues...
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>>133866167
>>133866043
Fastest summon ever, OP

Sasuga
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>>133866167

Hey Daiz are you overweight?
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>>133866222

It's not summoning if you do it yourself. In other words:

ITT Daiz samefagging.
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NOT ANIME AND NOT MANGA

SO YEAH FUCK OFF
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>>133866167
who the fuck is this guy ?
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I just wanted to give this thread a new IP.
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>>133866167
Stop trying to teach me about tech stuff, Daiz, I just want cartoons.
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>>133866167
.avi >> .mkv
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MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
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>>133866167
Which studio do you want to animate the inevitable Keit-ai anime adaption?

Also will you release 10-bit version of it?
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>>133866167
Nope nope nope nope.

I don't want 4K 2 GB anime episodes, even if my PC can handle them.
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>>133866043
>>133866167
Fuck off samefag
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>>133866625
>daiz trying to force people to get new pc parts
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>>133866167
>4K
Most animes still are 720p, stop talking bullshit about 4k
Maybe in 10 years we can talk about anime in native 4k ;^)
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What are the disadvantages of watching anime via webm?
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>>133866625
>4K
>2 GB
BD encodes are already that large.
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>>133866317
>>133866634
Sorry to disappoint.
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>>133866675
>watching anime via webm?
Who the fuck does that?
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>>133866167
Why did you dropped Barakamon?
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>>133866167
Is Underwater dead?
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>>133866167
>10-bit HEVC
Oh god, I hope HEVC will get better by then.
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>>133866672
Yeah, I wouldn't expect any native 4K anime anytime soon. But that's not really relevant here - the thing that matters is that 10-bit video is effectively going mainstream, with big players using it and hardware decoders being able to deal with it etc.
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>>133866167
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>>133866711
FTFY
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When are we getting 11-bit?
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>>133866754
Would KyoAni be the first studio to animate something 4K? Maybe Hibike movie's going to be 4K, what do you think?
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>>133866836
I wouldn't make any bets about it, considering that most studios don't even animate things consistently in 1080p today.
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>>133866836
We barely even get 1080p shit, don't think we'll see 4K until KyoAni and Hibike are oldtimers (if they even still produce anime).
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>>133866807
This thread is shit, but it's still not as bad as "Anime is cutting into my time with my girlfriend, what do?"
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>>133866807
But that thread was pure normie cancer
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>>133866961

And this thread is better?
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>>133866803
This.
12-bit when?
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>>133867006
At least in here you can learn something new from our beloved Daiz
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>>133866167
Good thing the anime community will stick to 720p because nowadays we get our raws from CR.
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>>133867006
It's nominally a thread about anime encoding.

The other thread couldn't be charitably sold if you tried.
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>>133867048
Human eyes can't see past 1920x1080 10bit 23.976FPS
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>>133866789
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>>133866043
Considering Horrible only rips "professional" 8-bit subs, and fansubbing being on the verge of death, no it's not a thing anymore.
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>>133866754
What would be better: 4K anime (as an upgrade from hypothetical true 1080p anime) or 11-bit encoding?
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>>133867083

>3D-VR 180 degree fov
>1080

Enjoy your pixels.
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>>133867138
>on the verge of death,
It's been dead for years Jim.
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hi10p is watching you masturbate to the stolen ©fakku® doujinshi.
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I just want CR shit to not look like shit.
The speed is nice but I still don't understand how people can pay for that shitty stream quality. Some series are better than others though, but some of them look terribly blurry during action sequences.
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>>133867154
Genuine 4K anime would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. Increasing the bit depth further gets you into diminishing returns real fast, and we're already in a quite good place with 10-bit, even when encoding in 4K.
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>>133867138
This really pisses me off too.
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Isn't 10bit supposed to be smaller filesizes and better quality? Why does it usually have way larger filesizes, then?
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>>133867205
>I just want CR shit to not look like shit.

Sadly they just don't seem to care very much.

Hell, the x264 version they're using to encode their videos today is almost four years old now. They basically haven't done a damn thing to improve the video quality since then.
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>>133867225
Daiz, please get Crunchyroll, Funimation and Daisuki to use 10-bit encoding.
The banding in their encodes is not endurable.

Thank you.
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>>133867048
12-bit already exists and it's pointless.
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>>133867253
I have to wonder what kind of a slowpoke you're to get pissed off about a thing that happened 5 years ago.
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>>133867138
I thought Diaz was responsible for HS.
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>>133867315
This.
Please.
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>>133867315
Get madVR.
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>>133866043
If 10-bit is a thing, why do I still MadVR to watch anime without atrocious bandinG?
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>>133867332
Well I didn't say it pisses me off now, just that it pisses me off as well. I hated it since the beginning.
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>>133867311
They're getting a fuckload of money without doing a thing, because of shitty competition.
Why would they invest money to change things?
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>>133867349
He's also responsible for the bombings in Paris. Only you can stop him.
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>>133867394
I did, it's still atrocious.
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>>133867397
Because you watch simulcasts.
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>>133867397
Because crunchy.
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>>133867416
This
Mostly normies use CR, and they can't even tell the difference between 480p and 1080p, why even bother then?
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>>133866043
If 10bit is a thing then why isn't there a wiki article on it?
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I'm watching all of my gook cartoons in 640x480.
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>>133867512
Let me type a long response showing you how mad I am about the way you watch your cartoons.
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>>133867416
Well, now that I'm actually working in legal digital distribution, maybe one day I'll be in a position at a competing company where I'll be able to put some pressure on them by showing how things should be done.

Sadly, this is obviously still quite the moon shot at this point, but I don't really see any other way to make them suddenly start caring about quality.

But who knows what the future will bring?
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>>133867540
Do it.
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>>133867587

(nyaa) ?page=search&cats=0_0&filter=0&term=fakku

How does this make you feel, shiller?
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>>133867599
I got lazy after the 1000th word.
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>>133867438
Now max the debanding strength.
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>>133867438
Now just use BakaMPlayer and enjoy not having to bother with any of that shit.
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>>133867617
Why would he care? It's not like he has any financial stake in the company, he's just being paid by them.
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>>133867587
m8, you really think Crunchyroll will care that a hentai distributor is doing releases at some high-quality bullshit?
Come the fuck on Daiz, the sun is hitting your bald head too much.
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>>133867752
You didn't read his post closely enough.
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>>133866625
>not watching 10gb a episode 1080P bluray rips
what are you a fucking 3mb/s faggot?
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>>133866167
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>133867752
That fag will bankrupt crunchyshit and sue all the fansubbers. We'll never see subbed animu again, mark my words. He is there to kill anime.
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>>133867853
He works at Fakku, you really think he'll end up at, I don't know, Hulu or Netflix?
Come on.
>Okay mister bald, we really like what we saw about your knowledge, but there's this one thing... it says here you worked at this... Fuck u company?
>F-fakku, sir.
>Yeah yeah. What was it about?
>T-they distribute h-hentai sir.
>Hentai? That pedophile shit from China?

And then Daiz is die.
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>>133867923
Didn't Daiz literally invent the encoding method that is being discussed? I'd say his identity is at least somewhat relevant.
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>>133867752
No, I wouldn't expect them to care about a hentai distributor. Don't be silly.

In an ideal scenario FAKKU would eventually branch out into doing regular manga (since it isn't that different from dealing with h-manga in terms of logistics and production), and then regular anime somewhere down the line.

Of course, we'd be most likely looking at several years before things would get to that point, but well, after waiting over half a decade for legal digital distro to get good, I doubt things would be changing much until then.
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>>133867961
>Okay mister bald, we really like what we saw about your knowledge, but there's this one thing... it says here you worked at this... Fuck u company?
>F-fakku, sir.
>Yeah yeah. What was it about?
>It's a company that distributes pornography
>Oh, alright. That's not at all relevant to what we're looking to hire you for, so why would we care?
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>>133867976
No, I most definitely did not invent 10-bit encoding. I just know a lot of stuff about video encoding in general.
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>>133866672
>animes
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>>133867487
>normies
>>>/r9k/
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>>133866222
I'm seriously impressed.

>>133868115
Are people sometimes releasing 10bit without marking it? Raw providers?
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16bit floating point is better than 10bit anyway.
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>>133868059
>in an ideal scenario daiz will eviscerate and ultimately shut down all the sites that host regular manga
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>>133868338
>Are people sometimes releasing 10bit without marking it? Raw providers?

wat
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>>133867961
>He works at Fakku, you really think he'll end up at, I don't know, Hulu or Netflix?
Did I say that?
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>>133868111
>search for his username on the internet
>see his mentions on the archive that he loves loli
>gets put into an international watchlist
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>>133868338
>Are people sometimes releasing 10bit without marking it?

Pretty much all fansubbers use it, generally without any specific marking.

Pubraws are usually all 8-bit unless otherwise denoted.
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>>133868059
>In an ideal scenario FAKKU would eventually branch out into doing regular manga

What would they even call a regular manga branch? SEREBASHII?
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>>133866167
Oh boy I can't WAIT for my nnedi upscales.
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>>133868397
>implying he's not already on an international watchlist for orchestrating the paris attacks
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>>133868355
people should celebrate if Daiz ever successfully kills scanlations
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>>133868338
>Are people sometimes releasing 10bit without marking it?
It's the other way around. Raw providers tend to encode their shit in 8-bit without warning the users (Reinforce they're shit, SHIT ), but with time you get to know who's doing 8-bit and who 10-bit.
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"VLC is the superior media player" -- Daiz
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>>133868695
Did he really say that? Explain yourself, baldie.
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>>133868745
>Did he really say that?

Take a wild guess.

I'll give you a hint: Nope
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>>133868745
>"VLC just works, lol" -- Daiz
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>>133868806
Then what media player do you use?
Do you even watch videos to begin with?
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>>133868861
I use MPC-HC with CCCP+XySubFilter+madVR.
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>>133868892
Why not just install the components separately? Or better yet, just use mpv.
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>>133867332
Fansubs were alive and well in 2010, fuck off.
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>>133868892
How do you feel about BakaMPlayer?
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>>133868930
Because he's a winfag, obviously
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>>133868930
I have nothing against mpv but I don't really see it offering anything notable over the setup I have. And last I checked XySubFilter still fares with softsubbed gradients better, plus fansubbers generally still author with xyvsfilter over libass.

I'd definitely use mpv if I didn't use Windows, though.
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>>133867428
Thank god Madokami is back up.
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>ctrl-f waifu2x
>0 results

What's your opinion on it?
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>>133866043
This image seems sketchy.

Is an anime image showing the real difference between the two?
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>>133866167
Why isn't Underwater doing OPM?
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>>133866167
They're going to regret branding this as Blu-Ray.
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>>133869200
Some g/u/y did a waifu2x upscale of SonoHana.
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>>133868344

And 32bit is even better. The point is to hit reasonable compression rate vs. encoding speed vs. quality.
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>>133869200
It's not something I'd want to use on actual anime footage. Mainly because it doesn't really perform that well on it, and also because it's ridiculously slow.
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fuck daiz and his placebo shit
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>>133869200
It's actually pretty good to upscale CGs. But anime? Just nope.
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>>133869263

It's open source, I'm sure it could be tweaked and taught (it's a neural net after all) to perform better on anime.
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>>133869234
Why?
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>>133869323
Or instead of wasting time with that you could just use nnedi3. Incidentally, did you know that the name "nnedi" is short for Neural-Network Edge-Directed Interpolation?
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>>133869378
It doesn't significantly differentiate itself from the old standard. Just imaging how many normalfags are going to bring a disc back saying it's defective gives me chills.
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I want anime to go back to DVD. It doesn't feel right unless it's crummy quality.
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>>133869475
Yeah, let's go back to the stone age while we're at it, I want to fuck a dinosaur or something like that.
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>>133869508

gb2/d/ then.

>>133869393

but waifu2x sounds sexier.
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I use KCP + MPC-BE, BakaMPlayer any better?
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>>133869645
Isn't that just a frontend for mpv? I really like mpv's customization, but I guess it's alright if you want it to have more mouse commands.
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>>133869645
Well, that boils down to pretty much what I said in >>133869064
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Daiz, why isn't YCoCg used more frequently?
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>>133869645
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/151592
Literally the only difference is that MPC had slightly larger subtitles.
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>>133869200
It will never happen, its just Gaussian blur filter applied to upscaled images.

In other words, its shit.
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>>133869741
>>133869777
>>133869815

Quick replies, thanks!
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>>133868983
Why would you use that and not mpv?
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>>133869882
The icon looks better.
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Why would fansubbers add such heavy loaded animations for the subs on the songs, can't they see my PC can't handle the heat; even worse on 10-bit.
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>>133870014
Looks like its time to upgrade anon, a PC that can handle that is just $500.
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>>133870014
Get a new toaster grandpa!
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>>133869802
Because in mainstream video it takes a really damn long time to get rid of legacy shit.

Just look at how we're still stuck with 4:2:0 YUV only for HEVC Main 10 Profile. And knowing how companies making hardware decoders like to stick with the minimum amount of support they can get away with, I'm not holding my breath for widespread Main 4:4:4 10 hardware support.
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>>133870014


I wonder if your PC blows up if you watch Sister's Noise OP from UTW-Mazui.
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>>133866167
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>>133866167
>first post
Perfect.
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>>133870103
>UTW-Mazui
Fuck don't even remind me, all the OP's subs were filled with random ass numbers and minuses, or sometimes subs with a lot of color would appear flat.
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>>133866634
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>>133866167
Get out of here Daiz
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>>133869821

Kill yourself, newfag. It does wonderful things with still images.
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>>133870014
Animated karaoke is much worse weeb cancer than translator notes.
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>>133870815
Which you have been able to do with GIMP and photoshop for years.
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>>133870837

Manually, taking hours? Instead of running a filter quickly, with comparable results?
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>>133870898
No, seconds, yes, yes.
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>>133870898
>Manually, taking hours?
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>>133870924

It takes you seconds to do the same thing that waifu2x does? Please demonstrate this amazing ability for us.
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>>133869821
Retard.
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>>133871000
>faggot can't use Adobe Illustrator's Tracing function

What a fucking faggot holy shit.
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>>133873187

>tracing function
>seconds
>no effort at all

Yeah that's not how it works. Waifu2x does a fucking amazing job for program.
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>>133866167

You really don't get it.

HEVC 10-bit will be a thing because it's an actual consumer standard, and already has hardware video decoding in consumer products. The real world will actually use it. Unlike Hi10P, which was fucking retarded.
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>>133873253
You clearly don't know how to use it, then, considering that it's literally a handful of sliders and a click of a button.
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>>133873623

And waifu2x is
>copypaste url or file
>click
>done
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>>133874442
waifu2x devs get the fuck out
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>>133873623
The fact that I even need to click a button is already bullshit. Give me a command line program or fuck off.
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And lets talk about the quality of the resulting file.

Waifu2x >> autotrace
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