Medaka Box

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>>133800235
Naze and Nabeshima best girls

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These two niggers made it great

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>>133800526
with how popular they are they're probably the only reason his manga was anywhere to be seen.

to eclipse all the main characters in popularity so much is crazy.

>>133801349
He's just so damn likeable. Plenty of villains do the "we just want to be accepted" thing but he takes it to another level

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>>133800934
My two WSJ OTPs from the past 10 years or so.

>>133800526
>>133801349
>>133801406
I never understood that guy's thing. "I will never win anything baww", yet he won dozens of fights. Like how he nailed all those students to the walls. Did he somehow lose there too?

>>133801620
He's mentally ill. It's part of his minus.

>>133801620
It's the same as Medaka always winning in the end because she's a protagonist. He's an antagonist, so no matter how powerful or unbeatable he appears when introduced he can't help but fail as he nears the finish line.

>>133801745
I never really catched that. But practically everyone in the series seemed like they had some mental issues, so I will blame myself here for not seeing it.

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Which Kadonk is best Kadonk?

>>133801798
But Medaka didn't win every time.

>>133801847
Who has bigger tits, Medaka or Naze?

>>133801917
Naze, that's canon.

>>133801620

Don't try to understand Nisioisin bullshit pretentious nonsense writing is the lesson.

>>133801945
It is? Pretty cute actually.

>>133801869
Of course, a protagonist has setbacks in a good story. But in the end she always wins.

>>133801620
He didn't win.
In the end who wins or loses is up to you, how you interpret the result of the fight.

In the end, the lesson Kumagawa never learned was that you should have realistic expectations.

>>133801847
4 > 2 > 3 > 1

Does anyone else think that the part where Zenkichi becomes the main character is the best one?

>>133801349
I've never quite understood the fascination with aprons in anime/manga.
The hand bra jeans picture on the other hand is perfect.

>>133802228
But she clearly didnt win. Zenkichi had to rescue her ass. Thats not winning.
>>133802338
So it really is some pretentious nonsense writing as stated before.

>>133802518
She went into space and fought an eldrich horror. She only had trouble with FRESH because he isn't just another character, he's a representation of the actual people who read the story. That's why he was immune to everything but styles, which use words that can still be conveyed through the story and effect people.

>>133802661
Cranking up the pretentious up to 11 there.

>>133802518
How is that pretentious?

>>133802862
Or that?
Do you even understand what the word means?

>>133802900
>How is that pretentious?
How isn't anything written by this hack not pretentious?

>>133802966
I don't see how the statement "whether you win or not depends on your perspective" is pretentious.

>>133802966

It's a pretty fair question honestly. For how popular he seems to be with fetish otaku the guys an absolute joke of a writer when it comes to just trimming the fat that literally wrote a volume of one of his series just for himself and his own amusement originally that his publisher then convinced him to make canon. He apparently just pretty much sits down and starts typing and does like 5K words an hour or something and then whatever he ends up with seems to just becomes his outright first draft which makes sense when you actually see what ends up in print and how rough and chaotic borderline stream of consciousness it is. The style works best with one shots yet he employs it in a virtually unending serial that at this point is just going to trundle on in spinoffs that will probably see even less effort put into framing a coherent narrative and sense of purpose. He also barely seems to believe in identifying the speaker in his novels and you sometimes get those pages that just entirely filled with somebody screaming the same word or mantra over and over again. Otaku then just pretty much eat it up and call him a genius because it's a weird and abstract writing style he employs and everyone knows that e employing unconventional storytelling automatically makes you an awesome and deep writer who can do no wrong in the otaku scene because of years of low fucking standards and samey bullshit. Also lots and lots of impressionable teenagers and lonely young adults reading his shit.

What I want to know is what's the deal with his relationship with Shonen Jump? Does he know somebody that works for Shueisha that's getting him an in and these contracts to do his own stories about Shonen Jump characters and titles? Apparently this manga managed to survive cancellation several times and had to undergo a couple of retoolings before finally getting the axe when it refused to let up after several points where it could have easily ended.

>>133802966

>Guy takes on a pen name that's a palindrome
>Even designed his own logo so as to establish himself as a brand.
>not pretentious???

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Did you mean "Kumagawa thread"? Because I read kumagawa thread.

>>133802900

Nobody is ever allowed to accomplish anything straight up in Nisioisin stories. He's really big on non-resolutions or ones that reveal everything to have largely been a complete waste of time. I'm sure if Monogatari ever actually does end it'll give pretty much that same kind of vibe, but considering there doesn't seem to be any sort of standard for that franchise and it's fanbase will buy it unconditionally as long as it simply exists in that bizarre sort of culturally distinct Japanese display of blind loyalty it's probably going to become his life's work.

>>133802966
I can't stand pretentious stuff, only reason I haven't read this. Kumagawa still seems really fucking cool though.

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>>133803865
No, Medaka

>>133804050
Cant we just post more Medaka girls? I dont care about pretentious stuff.

I love how people shit on Nisio for being "pretentious" and then go and praise Yuasa elsewhere

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Is RIROLAND working on anything right now?
Nisio's part in the series was good, but the art was what made me look and stay in the first place.

>>133803865
I dont know shit about this manga, but I saw some vid with this guy in it and he makes me want to read it.

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>>133805285
He's the reason I read it in the first place, and I wasn't disappointed. The manga itself isn't great, but he's a really good character.

>>133805418
Alright then. I'll definitely read this. How long until he makes a appearance?

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Medaka Box is a deconstruction of the Shonen battle series.

>>133803865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aessG1osTfw

>>133802338
Kumagawa didn't learn anything, as nothing was implied, outside of what was said.
And the only thing was said is that it's okay for Kumagawa being himself, and he decided to stay true to himself.

>>133805827
Sure.
He can keep his unrealistic expectations.
But he has to accept what that means for him and I guess he could accept it at the end of it all.

>>133805515
50 chapters

and his appearance marks the point when the manga finally becomes fucking good

>>133805625
and the sky is blue

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>>133805905
53 chapter exactly
>tfw you knew shit was about to go down

>>133805905
Tfw anime adaption never ever of Kumagawa except for that one episode.

>>133805879
You don't get it, there's no moral lesson here as there's no meaning behind MB whatsoever, it's all big nonsense, especially Kumagawa's character.

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>>133803865

I loved Megumi Ogata's Kumagawa. it was cool seeing her take the usual archetypal loser male role she gets and play him as a total psycho.

though I imagine either Spike Spencer or Vincent Tong as his English voice.

>>133806087
Yes, the characters don't learn their lesson, everything that happened was effectively a huge waste of time for them.

>>133806143
Exactly.
ADVENTURE IS THE PRIZE!

>>133805625

That nobody really asked for nor cared about as it barely survived cancellation long enough to make it over the 100 chapter mark and then just sort of trundled on before being axed just short of 200 chapters. Meanwhile the shonen battle genre will continue on and be popular with many entries enjoyed worldwide while Nisioisin remains largely popular among shut in fringe otaku and butthurt social reject anons on the internet with a hate on for shonen and works that are actually enjoyable to read/watch, never really seeing the light of day outside of Japan or really even said fringe communities. Hope being a glorified deconstruction and the favored writers of trollbaiters, shitposters and assholes as well as some producers at Aniplex and editors at Shueisha is worth it.

>>133806139
>Spike Spencer

I could get behind this.

>>133803932
Nisio just love unexpected twists so much he would pull them out even if doesn't make any fucking sense and literally come out nowhere.
And of course he also love anticlimax, which I guess he think is the best way to surprise anyone, to make everyone believe something actually cool is gonna happend and then turns out nothing actually happend.
And that's a shame, because Nisio can do some crazy ass shit and actually something cool once in a while, but of course when you expect him to do the opposite.

>>133806268
Well as much as some people like to pretend that MB is anything but regular shounen battle stuff, Nisio love his shounen manga and especially JoJo.
It's just that he went lost with what he wanted to do with MB, if he made GLK instead of MB originally, I think it would work much better, it has actual flow of battle manga and it's really better fitting with Nisio style, while MB was just a huge mess, with Nisio just messing around at the end of the day because he don't know how to write for weekly shounen manga where you need to have long running story arcs instead of short character focusing stories that he usually make.
Or better yet, he should just do what he's doing in his other work but for some reason just don't want to bring this into manga, like his battle royal novel, or Densetsu Series or Risuka...they all would work as manga, but he just bring something nobody really want to see.
Such a shame really.

>>133806139
I thought his voice would sound deeper in the anime like a mix between high and low or something

>>133806816
Kamiya Hiroshi or Fukuyama Jun would be fitting much for him, since they can perform very high and low voices.
I personally prefer Kamiya because he can make some very deep treating voice naturally, while Fukuyama sounds like he's obviously faking it.

Serious question, is there any picture available of a genderbender kumagawa?

>>133807187
>Kamiya going from his annoying loud Araragi/Choromatsu to his deep Law/Levi voice in the middle of a scene
I need it

I like Medaka Box

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the BEST

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The highschool life I never had. Medaka Box will forever hold a special place in my heart.

>>133807920
I hated how Ajimu was completely correct but Medaka just had to "correct" her.

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>Ajimu's meta-rambling
muh dick

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>>133809177
This
4th wall breaking is my fetish

>>133807187
>Kamiya Hiroshi or Fukuyama Jun would be fitting much for him
It really hurts hear your favourite character voiced by fucking Shinji instead of somebody cool, right?

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The irony

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Why did Hanten want a drinking bar anyways?

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>>133802966
>double negative
I agree, how is anything written by Nisio pretentious?

Hanten is so handsome

>>133809573
Hansode and Hanten were shadows for Medaka and Ajimu. Hansode mentioned she did crap that Medaka couldn't, like gobbling food and meat like crazy. Hanten probably drank like mad while Ajimu at most had a cup of tea, ever.

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>>133809328
It makes me sad they never really incorporated that into the anime, not even a slight nod. They could've gone really wild and meta with their adaption and the fans would've loved them for it, but instead they opted to slavishly follow a script that was barely even mediocre during the first arc. A script that almost got the series fucking axed a dozen chapters in before MB was reinvented as a wacky battle shounen. What the fuck were they thinking? Did the people responsible learn nothing from the early mistakes of the manga? Feels like such a waste. Well, at least the last episode of the second cour was worth its salt, although it was too little too late.

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>>133809573
>reward upon completion: a waste of time
oh Anshinin

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So what was the deal with Tsurubami anyways? I felt like he was just a bunch of wasted potential.

>>133809934
the early arcs dragged the reader along until Kumagawa came and pepped the plot up.
And precisely those arcs were animated, for what reason?
What a horrible teaser though the Abnormal arc adaption was quite good in my opinion.

>>133810187
He always was just a tool for Ajimus convoluted schemes.

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>>133810187
So much wasted potential in the manga globally.
I remember that part where Medaka was considered to be the antagonist, alone leading her faction, fighting against kumagawa's and ajimu's. It would have been a really interesting plot line to follow.

>>133801620
It's more like as a minus, he's destined to be a failure. However the weaker and more pathetic a minus is, the more dangerous they are. If Kumagawa is the weakest and most pathetic one of them all, wouldn't that make him the most dangerous one as well. Also it should be noted that Ajimu said Kumagawa is a "last boss" character. He doesn't lose to anyone but "main characters".

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>>133810187
he was the best character besides kumagawa

him and HEAT are the best bros

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>>133801620
it's his position as a character, while medaka, and later Zen, are the MC, they are always destined to win in the end of the series, while kumagawas position is to lose. The last boss always defeats all of the side characters in an instant in order to build him up, but will always lose against the Main Character.
its not that he can NEVER win, he just can't beat medaka
pic related

>>133810187
>gets hyped as one of the strongest characters in Medakaverse
>gets his ass handed to him immediately after that
A shame he isn't popular enough to get his own backstory spinoff.

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>A Medaka thread that isn't dead
About fucking time

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>>133811057
>the only femdom doujin done right with Ajimu is by Warabimochi

I guess this is what they call a desperate fap.

>>133801349
>Holy shit
The gap between 1st and 2nd is so fucking wide.

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>>133812678
It was promised Roriland would draw all the girls in naked aprons if Kumagawa won the poll, so our good loser basically cheated to get this landslide victory, as befitting a minus.

I want to fuck Zen's mom

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>>133815916

>>133815916
I'd give him a little brother or sister.

>>133800235
>Zenkichi gets to bang this every night

>>133817291
Isn't medako a lesbian?

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>>133800235
While Medaka wasn't even close to best girl in her series (it's pic related), that plump body still makes me want to put a request into her box.

>>133817291
Took him long enough to get there. 10 fucking years, wasn't it? Makes you wonder if Medaka even stayed a virgin all this time. I have a sneaking suspicion she took a thousand nigger dicks before Zen was finally allowed to marry her. He might very well be a sad ᴄuckold for all we know.

>>133817597
Why do you kuckold fags have to ruin and/or project your shitty feitshes onto everything?

>>133817597
>ass-pained Kumagawafag who is still upset Kumagawa got the ending he deserved, making his own existence nothing

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so who had the better harem?

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Do you guys like the FRESHEST guy in all of shounen jump?

>>133817976
they didn't have a harem.

>>133817976
Zen by a large margin

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>>133817291
>Zenkichi gets to bang this every night

>>133818153
>Ajimu
>Kikaijima
>Aka

Kumagawa wins this desu lad

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>>133817797
Did he? I thought he was just travelling the world, doing odd jobs and banging Ajimu

>>133818266
Ajimu is just as much Zen's and Medaka's harems, Kikaijima is worst girl, and Aka is largely irrelevant

>>133818312
>Ajimu is just as much Zen's and Medaka's harems

"No"

>Kikaijima is worst girl

"NO

>Aka is irrelevant

Fuck you

>>133818266
>forgetting Zenkichi's mom and Nap-chan

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>>133818287
Imagine what sex with Ajimu must be like with her millionbillion sexy skills.

>>133818453
>>133818266
>Nap-chan

I was just going to comment on that, she was great.

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>>133804174
I really wish he would do more lewd stuff, his style is bretty nice.

>>133801620
He doesn't consider it a win unless it is a total moral and literal victory. If he doesn't win, he can only lose in his mind.

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>>133817976
Zen didn't have a harem, he and Medaka were obviously meant for one another from the very beginning, no one else entering the equation.

>>133813088
i never knew i had this fetish untill i saw this.

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Would you let give you a hand job?

>>133818924
*let her

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>>133817436
She's bisexual and has an additional secret fetish for bestiality.

>>133818924
That's asking for an STD

>>133806139
He has an English voice. It's the guy who played the MC in the High School of the Dead dub, Leraldo Anzaldua.
I thought he did a good job. Better than the rest if the main cast.

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>>133805938
It's actually colorless

>>133810187
>So what was the deal with Tsurubami anyways? I felt like he was just a bunch of wasted potential.

He was a parody of that cool mysterious character who appears in the middle of the story and steals the show. Like Trafalgar Law.

>>133820602
I already know what the brackets mean but when I first saw him I thought he would have a demon voice or some kind of double voice. Wasn't there a panel were they said his expressions don't match his voice.

>>133819122
But she can easily cure it anon.

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I'm going to marry Najimi-chan

>>133800526
Their antics kind of wore off by Aijmu's arc though.

>>133801847
Delicious butts.

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>>133801847
Ajimu

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Was Zenkichi the second-best character simply because of how relate-able he was?

Why is Medaka Box do underrated outside Japan? (if it even is in Japan)

>>133817797
>making his own existence nothing

He just stopped leaving behind traces of himself.

You can still meet him, but the hard part is finding him.

It wouldn't be hard if you were Anshin'in-san though.

>>133818470
I still remember
>Become Pregnant Skill [Success Succeed]

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>>133818266
You're forgetting Zen's mum and Takarabe-chan m8.

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>>133825112
No one but hardcore dweebs can get into it because of Nisio's wordplay heavy writing style that doesn't translate well into other languages. Remember those chapters where they did nothing but play some crazy version of Shiritori? How do you expect anyone who knows nothing about the japanese language to appreciate stunts like that? And even if you know the language perfectly well it might not tickle your fancy, as evidenced by the WSJ readership who usually placed Medaka at the bottom of the totem pole.

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>>133818312
>>Ajimu is just as much Zen's and Medaka's harems
Keep telling yourself that, anon-kun.

>>Kikaijima is worst girl
>the only qt in the series who had a baby and did her part to combat the falling birth rate in Japan
>worst girl

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>>133825653
>that page

>>133825455
>Remember those chapters where they did nothing but play some crazy version of Shiritori?

When reading those chapters I was wondering what kind of hell has the translator went through.

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>>133826011
Yeah, it's a special kind of dedication.

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>>133825423
Fucking Zenkichi pulling a Condorito always gets me.

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>you'll never read Medaka Box for the first time again and take a ride on the hype tr/a/in.

>>133821057
I've finished this manga and I still never got a clear idea of what the brackets represent.

I just kinda accepted it as a character quirk.

>>133826155
>pull skills out of dishwasher skill

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>>133800235
PRONE BONE
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>>133826901
Supposedly it's based on some pun for "trying to sound cool."

But I never found out whether that's legit or if some cheeky little anon just made it up.

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>>133826155
Man, I remember when I first got into this series in high school. I was taking Japanese classes and felt really smart when I figured out some of the wordplay jokes on my own. Shit had me erect. Here's an Ajimu to make up for blogging. Hand-bra jeans a best fetish..

How much would you pay if the series got repicked up? I can't count how much i would give to hear Megumi Ogata go on a trip with kumagawa the whole way down

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>>133807848
This is the only one I've ever seen, though I haven't looked for Medaka Box art in years.

>>133825653
God, when I read the manga I shipped those two so hard it wasn't even funny. Still do I guess.

What better way to confess to a girl than to rip her face off?

>>133827505
>tfw when finding out Kumagawa sealed Anshin'in-san to stop her from killing herself

I have this feeling they'll be the only ones left after the sun blows up. They just take care of each other.

>>133802900
It is pretentious, but it's also good.

>>133827466
They could probably do a timeskip with new characters, with cameos from the immortal bunch.

>>133802862
>anything that's meta or requires analysis is pretentious

Don't you have some cute girls to watch doing cute things?

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>>133807848

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>>133828843
Sameface can be a scary thing to behold

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Ajimu is the best!

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Why this was axed!? WHY!?

>>133830281
It reached its natural end.

The anime, on the other hand, ended just as it was getting to the best part. Damn them!

>>133830281
I'm happy with the end.

Better than watering it down.

>>133826155
not gonna lie I used this whole chapter as a naming guide for when creating a character's skill.

>>133826155
>Big Breast Skill [Burst Bust]
>Lay Eggs Skill [Boiled Eye]
>Become Pregnant Skill [Success Succeed]

l-lewd...

I dropped it after chapter 100, when the succersors arc started.
Should I give it another chance?

>>133805285
Kumagawa showing up is in fact when the manga gets really fucking good.

>>133830739
do you think she has used those skills before?

>>133830805
Yes, but after 130 it takes another dive in quality that lasts until the end. It has some moments though

Anybody got any pics of Nap-chan?

Threadly reminder that Ajimu and Kumagawa never came back and that half of class minus 13 committed sudoku because their lives were so terrible.

>>133830847
Wouldn't be surprised if she had an entire class of lewd skills.

>>133806470

Oh don't worry I've noticed

>>133832561
>muh head canon

Fresh's damage became reversible after he got pwned.

>>133832762
Even if she didn't, Hanten could just produce some. Imagination's the only limit to her kinkiness.

>>133827125
I tried to write it on kata and hiragana.

using google translateShe's right.

Kumagawa is pretty cool

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>>133838034
Agreed.

>>133824899
>second best
you mean the best

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>>133827125
It's true.

nisio next WSJ manga when