New episode starting
Was it rape?
Or was it rape?
>shinoa will never press a finger to your lips
The fight scene was pretty good.
>seishiro's oniisama bullying him next week
Best bro with the crappiest life.
I'm really tired of those obnoxious MCs that just go around yelling nothing but
without even trying to comprehend risks and goals.
And if they just ignore orders, they somehow almost never fuck things up, not to mention being punished for insubordination.
he must be downgraded
>kureto being a bully
>guren being a cute dad
WIT better not cut out too much.
Here we go again...
Kool aid vampire
27 KA on one episode? Heh, we're heading to WIT QUALITY territory again. This isn't a good sign t bh.
Next episode's preview looks nice though.
Seriously I can't hate this goofy motherfucker
Oh shit. I thought we didn't get another birthday until Shinoa.
Crowley is this show's Lu Bu, yet he's still not even close to Krul's powerlevel. What chance in hell do the humans even have? The power gap is too large.
If things get too complicated he looks like the kind of guy to do his own thing. Chess and Horn don't like Ferid and Crowley is only obeying because he's curious and knows better than to get on the bad side of a higher progenitor. But if Krul sides with humans, everything will change.
It must suck to be such an idiot. Life must literally be a roller-coaster ride for you. On the other hand, perhaps life is much easier to enjoy when you're this simple-minded.
For reference. Might contain typos or errors.
>Paperback: 350 pages
>Includes 28 pages of illustrations, 7 of them in color!
Judging by the illustration number, it should cover Japanese volumes 1-2. It's very cheap, I hope everyone buys a copy. I think the reason why this series got attention licensing wise is because most people that read the manga actually bought it.
>people that read the manga actually bought it
Yeah I don't usually buy much manga, but the art being so nice convinced me.
Looks like the second volume (another 400 pages) is up for preorder too, with a late May release.
Eh, having a birthday on a holiday is pretty shitty, desu. I never have to work, but all my happiness for the year is crammed between Christmas and New Year's and then it's just nothing until next December.
[Spoiler]new years and birthday sex at once is really fucking good though.
I've never had to work on my birthday, ever. I remember always being sad for never getting to go to school on my birthday, either. I know that feel, though. My family always just made my birthday Christmas when I was a kid.
I have to agree with this. The site suddenly became a lot nicer. Who would have guessed that filtering things to say "desu senpai" would have suddenly made this site almost hugbox-y.
What filters to senpai, by the way? I have honestly never been filtered, so I do not know.
This episode was embarrassingly bad, from the QUALITY to the "military action" going on. These guys don't plan anything, they just do whatever they want because of feelings. Too late to drop this now, I just hope it gets better.
>28 pages of illustrations, 7 of them in color
I'm really glad they're including everything. It would be nice if the backcover was the cover of the second volume.
That was never the plan, that was only what ended up happening. The idea was for everyone to get in, rescue the hostages and get out in 5 minutes somehow, and this was all decided on a whim after a brief exchange of EMOTION because fuck concrete plans. Oh, and this after Guren gave the order for shota boy to fire at one of the nobles. Fucking why? They weren't even prepared for battle. For all they new, the vampires could have been waiting to ambush them. Makes no sense. My head hurts.
Like everything in this show so far, that was only decided in the heat of battle. They never discussed it before deploying. In fact, they pretty much decided nothing at all except having 420 guy in close enough range so that he could puff away some illusions. That ways the crux of the plan, it was never to bait nobles, and I doubt they would have decided on a bait team of two guys, however strong, against three nobles. I don't know how it goes in the manga, mas this sure was pretty lame.
Why so defensive, anon? I was actually reasonably enjoying this show, despite some minor annoyances, but this episode was just bad. Either say your piece or get out. /a/ is full of whiny defensive little faggots already.
>reading some reviews on season 1 since I just love contracting cancer
>MAL, reddit and practically every other blogger is comparing this to AoT
>calling this the typical shonen self-insert power fantasy
>calling the vampires boring
holy shit I'm reaching terminal stages - like the one anime that actually pulls off the vampire society structure and military decently enough and people call it boring just because it has vampires what the fuck?
>They never discussed it before deploying
They have obviously discussed it if Guren said that they did their jobs. Anime just didn't show it, they don't need to show every conversation. You seems to be retarded.
Is this the first time we've seen a female vampire infantryman?
>Wow Guren might actually die here.
>Oh wait nope shitty writing obviously means Yu will go beserk and kill Crowley.
I really can't wait for this show to be over, This writing is atrocious.
I meant vampires actually have to go out and fight, havea chain of command and internal structure, not to mention use their own tech instead of being a passive part of the story
it's a nice comparison and contrast versus what humans have and how they operate
>the next episodes will be slideshows with stickman animations for battle scenes accompanied with text to speech voices
>last mika yuu sex scene will be animated in 60fps with a soundtrack composed by Hans Zimmer and the studio will also pay the voice actors enough to have actual sex with each other for authentic love sound
Don't be silly, Lulu. Why would Guren die if his sword is of another colour? And it's not like he had flesh, bones and veins pierced by a huge sword anyway.
> it was never to bait nobles, and I doubt they would have decided on a bait team of two guys, however strong, against three nobles.
Guren does have an escape plan, though the anime makes it seem like Goshi thought up the plan
It would have worked if Shinoa squad didn't interfere
i literally lost it when shinya was hovering in the air while talking instead of shooting
In the manga, he fired and Crowley slashed all the barrages away
What are you suggesting, anon? That the animation was, dare I say it, bad?
They discussed the outline of the plan before the battle even started. All of the squads going after nobles were decoys, their goal wasn't to survive but to kill as many nobles as they could while Kureto drove his men there. Their hostage position was to buy time for Shinoa and Makoto squads to free them the moment Guren and Shinya realized the noble was just too strong when they sniped at him. This is why there was no second shot, even Crowley's sluts point it out. If all went wrong everyone is to run away and rendezvous at the airport. He said this, literally, unlike your figurative accusations. Either watch the episode or get out. /a/ is full of whiny little faggots who complain about everything already.
Disgusting. You sure have low standards when it comes to saving fanart.
One thing I can't stand is when a surprise attack is supposed to happen, but the character is monologing
Her head looks weird
Why does Mika want Yu to join the vampires, when his argument is the humans are using Yu. I'm sure being fed on is being used. What is Mika's defense in siding with those who enslaved,fed, and then killed his family?
For many who've done it for years and actually improved over time, they would look at that in shame. But when you're still learning you can be quite oblivious to seemingly obvious flaws. Getting good takes a long time and people just want to draw their shit.
She probably told mika how big and bad the humies are and how good and benevolent the vampires are.
And mika swallowed it all
Mika is not meant to be likable by non-fujos
Because they turned Yuu into a walking demon tree or whatever, Mika doesn't really seem to give a shit about humans or vampires he just wants to run away with Yuu and live happily ever after.
He doesn't want Yuu to join the vampires and he doesn't side with them, Mika hates both humans and vampires. It's just that, as a temporary plan when he first met Yuu, taking him with him sounded less dangerous than leaving him with Guren and co. because he could protect him. But he later realized this was probably a bad idea because he didn't know what they were going to do to Yuu if/when they got him, this is why Krul told him what her plans were as a way to convince him to stay loyal to her. Krul has a secret agenda with the seraphs and she saved him and Yuu, so Mika gives her the benefit of the doubt. Mika trusts no one else, though. He cut Ferid's arm when he touched Yuu the first time they met.
Yu has his new friend and comrades. Mika has nothing and is now a slave to blood. Yu can only try and hold on to the image of Mika as his family for so long. I think Mika is going from saving Yu to being a salty fuck because his life sucks.
>Mika is honestly an annoying nigger
a cute annoying nigger
His drive to save Yuu probably comes from how he likely blames himself for the death of his family and desire to save atleast one person
Despite the fact that he is working for the people that killed his family and he got a huge hate boner for the enemies of said people, due to some unexplained reason
Mika hates vampires for killing his family and humans for doing human experiments on Yuu. He thinks that all humans are out there to get him and Yuu because of the seraph experiment, this was probably intensified by the vampires poisoning him for years. But he already started to realize that not every human that hangs out with Yuu agrees or is aware of the experiments and they might actually be good people. Mika only needs to spend some time with them to be less salty. If this happens soon enough he'll start seeing them as his new family, like Yuu did.
I see the "dere" of the smugdere is very dangerous.
The vamps are always saying how humans caused all the destruction. Why do they even care though, only humans died from the virus and vamps can easily kill the monsters. They seem butthurt over nothing.
They're butthurt because over 80% of their blood supply disappeared in the apocalypse. Don't forget they feed on human blood. That's why they went to the surface and started to capture and keeping humans alive underground. It's to prevent them from killing themselves even further and leaving vampires without any blood supply left.
Will it ever be explained how the apocalypse exactly happened and why it did such a piss-poor job of killing shit?
If it wasn't for the apocalypse, Mika and Yu would live peacefully, Mika wouldn't become a vampire. I'm not even talking about the seraph experiment, humans made them both into monsters, not vampires.
After setting up the blood bank operations is there that much of a food shortage. Sounds like they want a huge buffer 24/7. There is also those picky fucks treating blood like vintage wine.
Because the vampires are just as terrible and his plan of running away from both organizations and living on their own might work for him, because he can rape any defenseless human for food, but not for Yuu. And they are not going to be left alone. The human army and vampires will still pursue them.
Krul isn't like the other vampires, she risked her own life to save Mika and Yuu. To Mika she's the only person that actually did something for them. Why is it retarded to trust someone like that? Not to mention she has a lot of power.
He wasn't running away, Krul wants them to do something for her and Mika somehow finds it acceptable. Must be better than staying with humans who made them both into an eldritch abominations and arranged an apocalypse.
>Want to fuck all humans and create them as livestock, would likely treat you as slave trash if you didn't turn
>SOME want to experiment on you, most are chill and are bros
I got the impression that Yuu trusts her more than Mika does now, that boy is too gullible.
>Want to fuck all humans
Not all, they only need a certain amount for their subsistence.
>SOME want to experiment on you
Yeah, and that specific humans happened to be Yuu's military bosses.
>will donate her blood to you whenever you need it, lets you do whatever you want as long as you don't get in her way, wants to help you and your bro
>for all that you know they experimented with you and your bro in secret and are still exploiting him
>they'll keep you alive in exchange of blood but are insufferable faggots
Tough choice indeed.
Whats with all the vampires lurking the thread today?
>Cute loli but only gives a shit about mika, who is shit
>some higher ups need to put down but overall great bros Yuu is indebted to and cares about
>mustache twirling villains who treat humans like livestock, are hostile bitches even to other vampires
Humans race > vampire race. Not too hard here. People who feed on humans are not something to be kept around.
Vampires are faggots and Krul is the same as the humans who want to use the seraph. If you are going to get used May as we'll be on the side defending your other humans. Eventually you can hope to remove those who want to use you against your will
The Demon Army aren't defending humans at all, they're guinea pigs for their world conquest. They'll wind up destroying the world and killing everyone at this rate.
>some higher ups need to put down
That higher ups include even Guren actually. He was making humans experiments too.
>mustache twirling villains who treat humans like livestock
Humans treat their own kin as experiment material and killed more people than vampires have ever managed to. Humans are trash.
>Krul is the same as the humans who want to use the seraph
How do you know this? Humans are using the seraph as weapons but you don't know how Krul wants to use them. Krul's brother is trapped, she might want to use the seraphs to free him or something like that. That's something Mika would sympathize with.
>If you are going to get used May as we'll be on the side defending your other humans
What other "his" humans? To Mika all the humans he cared about are dead and the only ones left alive are the ones exploiting his bro. You don't get it, Mika thinks all the humans that are left are either evil or creatures beyond saving. He's a hypocrite and deluded in the sense that he thinks Yuu is different. Mika changes this attitude when he started to think it through and realizes Yuu's friends might be different.
>Krul is the same as the humans who want to use the seraph
Apparently she is not, you can't judge her because still don't know what's her plan. Mika wants Yu to be safe, and if he thinks that Krul's side is better option that must say something about her.
On long term Humans is the way to go
Just because they caused the apocalypse once doesn't mean that they gonna cause again, and experiments are the only true way to gain fast scientific knowledge
>Humans treat their own kin as experiment material and killed more people than vampires have ever managed to. Humans are trash.
Certain humans as opposed to ALL vampires feeding on and using people as livestock and letting live in poorfag conditions where they need to spread their boypussy for potatoes.
They're on the path to cause it again, they're continuing right from where they left off.
ITT people who fail to realize that the Seraph Project only exists to cause the apocalypse and destroy and that Hiiragi's plan of sovereignty to kill everyone, destroy everything and then repopulate the world with the humans they deem fit to do so.
Hard to tell, from what Mika said all of the human organizations around the world are experimenting on humans. It's not isolated but widespread, the ones in Japan seem to be the worst though.
>Certain humans as opposed to ALL vampires
That certain humans have direct control over Yuu now, that's the problem Mika is trying to solve.
Also killing your own kind is much worse than killing someone who is a livestock to you. Just like humans kill animals for food. That's just vampire's nature.
If you remove the vampires you have no demon stock left to put in your weapons which means you won't be able to defeat Horsemen of John which means you'll be fucked eventually. It's like saying spiders need to be removed completely and then being fucked over by all kinds of insects.
Krul is pretty cool, and Chess a cute.
I actually think that the vampires have potential to be the more interesting part of the story. The problem is that they receive about as much focus as a typical antagonistic group. It's basically 90% humans, 10% vampires (including Mika).
>experiments are the only true way to gain fast scientific knowledge
Yeah, you can say so until they start making experiments on you and your family.
>Just because they caused the apocalypse once doesn't mean that they gonna cause again
Humanity is shit, all its history of bloody wars says the opposite.
Whoa the vampire internet defense force is in full force tonight
Even then with the way they've set up their society humans are being used as blood banks, killing is frowned upon. At the end of this the only reason humans will still exist is because they were kept as livestock I bet.
>killing your own kind is much worse than killing someone who is a livestock to you
They are both equally terrible.
>Humanity is shit, all its history of bloody wars says the opposite.
It's funny because the same political games are happening among the vampires. How long until the war to overthrow Krul, simply over power hunger?
The only interesting vampires to me are Mika, Krul, Crowley and his girls. Everyone else is either a douchebag or a pedo.
Joke's on you, I prefer Guren's, Narumi's and Shinoa's squad. That doesn't mean I can't spot a necessary evil when I see one. If humans removed the vampires right now, they'd be fucked.
Are you chuuni trying too hard to pretend you're a fictional vampire or do you not realize humans are not equivalent to cows? The show makes a point of how warped that line of thinking is.
Mika doesn't remember the first one and by the looks of it Shinoa doesn't either, so it counts as one. The last time Mika saw her, she was all over Yuu and he thought she was using him. Krul on the other hand had been feeding Mika for 4 years and kept him alive in secret, something that could get her killed by her fellow vampires. Why you're comparing both of them is beyond me.
This reminds me of the recent arguments in Shiki thread. Some people are always butthurt over vampires because they just can't accept that there are some creatures looking at them like humans look at cows. Even if said creatures are fictional. That's just human arrogance.
Fuck vampires. I would rather Kureto singlehandedly destroy the entire world that have the vampires keeping humans enslaved for food.
>And the series tells you this is wrong and sick
No, it tells me humans are assholes who experiment on each other and made a genocide, while you can cooperate with vampires. Even blood-sucking monsters are better than humanity.
They've got their heads so much up their asses they fail to realize the flaw of their reasoning. It's OK to look at cows like cows but got forbid something else looking at humans the same way. It's what happens when people think they're at the top of the food chain just because they life comfortable lives. One day spent in the jungle would heal them pretty fast.
Fuck Kureto and the vampires. Guren breaking free of Mahiru's demon, getting Yu to recover his sanity when he goes Seraph, and then using the Seraph bullshit to revive mankind and purge the Hiiragi House from the face of the Earth, and finally taking his son out on a world tour with his resurrected waifu and her sister is the only way to go.
I don't know man. Kureto's preferred women are "A woman who would bear him a first-rate child / An assertive woman who doesn't act like his yes-man" and Aoi seems like a yes-man.
Then again you don't need to be in like/love with a woman to fuck her.
It says here that you like vampires
Care to elaborate why you like evil shit?
>happy family end with guren/mahiru and yu/shinoa
I wish, anon.
Both Mika and Yuu are fucking retards
The main problem with Mika is that he is a idiot that thinks he is always right no matter how many times he fucks up, and then proceeds to say Yuu is the stupid fuck of the two
Yuu at the very least knows he is a idiot and accepts it
If a shota falls on you it's a legally binding contract that you're their dad now.
>20 years old
>your dead waifu tells you to go out in the middle of the night in the cold snow to find a shota
>she didn't tell you that he's dumb as shit and a pain in the ass
>she didn't tell you that you're now his dad for the rest of your life
Guren's life is suffering.
the daughter of a possessed woman, who was born with her own demon, started losing her shit due to the cursed gear research and protecting Shinoa, and was then turned into a vamp by Krul as part of their agreement.
perfect example of shota imprinting
also pic related is best girl
Nah, Mahiru is just fucking around behind the scenes without really explaining anything to anyone.
Don't let his statement trick you. Shinya is fucking strong in CQC and only loses to Kureto and Guren because they've always been stronger.
>Shinya is fucking strong in CQC
Compared to what? The last time he tried it was with Yuu, who was obviously really inexperienced and underestimated him.
He's a sniper, there's no reason to believe he'd be an especially capable combatant in melee.
Compared to fucking everyone else who serves the Hiiragi House including Mito, Goshi, everyone else in Guren's squad, and a fuckton of kids he killed getting his spot as Mahiru's fiancee. The only people he's ever been weaker to are Guren, Kureto, and Mahiru.
Krul had an agreement with Mahiru herself. Ferid has an agreement with Guren himself. I think. But he only did this because he knows he's a Namanari so he thinks he's actually dealing with a demon and not a regular human. Meanwhile Guren thinks he's in control and totally not being used.
The Guren LN, anon.
The whole reason Shinya is even a Hiiragi is because they wanted someone worthy of fucking Mahiru, so they had him fight to the death against a bunch of other kids until he was the only survivor. After that, Mahiru shows up and wrecks him like nothing, and then years later, Guren is stuck saving his ass by being a total badass instead of the humongous wimp he was acting out in order to trick the Hiiragi for his eventual war against them.
>women on their periods = women possessed by demons
Seems legit. When you start menstruating it kind of feels like you have a demon inside of you sucking and latching to your inside walls and devouring your insides out. This experience can last until you give birth to at least one child or take drugs that on the long run do more harm than good so it's actually a pretty valid comparison.
tl;dr all of this could have been avoided if Mahiru got pregnant.
>wants an assertive woman who won't say yes to him all the time
>everyone knows that the hiragi's are crazy fucks and don't want to die so they say yes to you all the time
>everyone sucks up to the hiragis to get better positions in life
>only person that asserts themselves is a distant relative from the shit-tier branch of the family and an asshole
Kureto's love life is suffering.
I was just realizing how cruel this image is because Mika doesn't like curry anymore.
A good way to prevent that from happening is to put an official image of the character side by side (or even better on top of the drawing) when you finish the line art. That way you can easily see that kind of mistakes
Do you really need demon weapons to kill Horsemen, though? It'd be tougher maybe, but they seem like the sort of things that can be killed with magic and enchanted weapons, or even just enough firepower.
And besides, humanity is managing well enough against them with their current number of demon weapon holders. Those aren't going anywhere, and it would ostensibly be significantly easier if they didn't also have their hands full dealing with vampires.
Damn, now I want an AU of Kureto trying to romance a female Guren.
Looks better with the manga art style.
>cute adoptive mom that gets possessed by her dead yandere demon husbando
Consider the following.
- Mahiru makes a deal with Krul: she will keep the seraphs alive in Sanguinem after the apocalypse, it's the only way to save them
- Mahiru then makes a secret deal with Ferid: he will let the seraphs go free on a specific date so that research can continue
- Mahiru passes this intel to Guren who waits until that date to move to the designated location and wait for the seraphs to appear
- Ferid lets the seraphs escape as planned but he never promised he'd let all of them go so he has some fun with them first
- he catches Mika and thinks Yuu will run away, leaving Mika behind
- turns out Yuu didn't run away and gets him by surprise
- Ferid can't kill Yuu as well because his plan would be fucked so he takes the bullet instead, assuming he will run away next, without arising suspicion
- at least one seraph runs away, as planned, Guren gets him and resumes the experiment
It might have been part of Ferid's plan to keep Mika to himself to experiment on him but Krul got him first. Also, the data that Ferid passed on to Guren might have been data Ferid got from the other research facilities around the world.
He looks older in the manga, generally speaking.
You know, while the show has gotten better since the early episodes, I still don't care enough about the cast to really be invested in what happens to them. Shinoa is still the only character who's death would make me legitimately sad. And possibly Krul. I might mourn the loss of Mitsuba's, Chess's, and Horn's tits, but it would be just that: loss of fap material, not a loss of a character that I was really attached to.
Well, I might be a little sad over wasted potential with Chess, since she's shown elements of a fun genki girl, and genki girls are great, but potential != realization.
That includes things like Yuu and Mika finally getting to be on the same side, of course.
So, the humans have all these flashy tricky like Goshi's pipe, Kimizuki's coffin and Yuu's 9 Blade Works, whereas the vampires just have (a shit load of) raw speed, power and regeneration.
Do the vampires have any 'flashy' tricks?
>cute adoptive mom
>staying up with yu at night
>teaching him how to fight
>telling yu to go get laid
>yu would rather die that leave his cute adoptive mom to die
My heart couldn't take all this cute.
It wouldn't hurt if there was a separate faction that would occasionally defeat the vampires in the most amusing yet effective way possible.
I'd actually say that's one of OnS's strong points. It's uncommon for grunt commanders to threaten the MC's team in a five-on-one fight.
A strong antagonist has the opposite effect of a strong protagonist. It raises the tension.
I'm getting tired of watching recurring nobles effortlessly wreck the humans, yes.
It was a real bummer watching Guren and Shinya, ostensibly two of humanity's strongest fighters, get knocked around by Crowley while he wasn't even trying.
Doesn't seem like it. Though I wonder how those blood-sucking weapons came to be.
I'm fine with Yuu not winning any fight at all, he's just a rookie. It's no one except Kureto and vampires winning every fight that's the problem. You'd expect Guren to put up a fight but he does nothing but get beat up all the time, even Mika wiped the floor with him and he wasn't even a full vampire.
It's not about winning every fight. They don't even have to win, it would just be nice to see a non-no-name vampire actually have a hard time in combat.
Ferid and Crowley were practically yawning. It doesn't matter who wins, that's just not an interesting battle.
Guren won one battle. That's even less than Yuu. And his whole team was a mess, Goshi said they had a hard time. Guren carries the most powerful weapon type, he shouldn't be that weak.
>It took them 30 humans to do that and super cheat-coded weapons
As it should be, he was a noble. Nah, it's clearly that shounen fags are too used to see their heroes win and become easily butthurt when it's not so easy to kill an enemy as they usually see in the shounen garbage.