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New episode starting
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>>133794685
Just fuck already
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rip
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end card
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The amount of people who watch the stream has really dropped off.
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>>133794895
Who see them?
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RIP
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>>133794914
I don't stream any anime this season
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>>133794934
Guren of course
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>>133794981
But if it Guren Shigure won't act like that
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>>133794914
You can thank everyone who acted like a 12 year old the other day. I have no interest in these threads anymore after knowing I'm replying to that kind of people.
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Was it rape?
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Or was it rape?
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>>133795108
Was it rape?
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>>133794829
>thinking you can kill Guren
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>>133794512
>breasts
>how do they work ?
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Subs out

[HorribleSubs] Seraph of the End S2 - 07 [1080p].mkv
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>>133796260
>1080
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>>133796317
Nice meme.
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>>133796317
>not 1080p
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>>133794685
>shinoa will never press a finger to your lips
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They sure have the nerve to put an opening recap after skipping a lot of scenes
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>>133797002
Well we are no closer in figuring out who is the big bad.
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>>133797090
Fucking kill yourself Henry
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Did I do it right?
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this doesn't look very good
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>>133797375
Who died?
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>>133797533
no one
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>>133797533
dunno yet, it's in the preview of the next episode
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>>133797375
Walk it off, buddy. Walk it off.
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>>133797533
Yu?
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>>133796260
The fight scene was pretty good.

>seishiro's oniisama bullying him next week
Excellent.
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>>133797375
>>133797533
MItsuba's sister kills Seishiro's men next chapter so probably them.
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>>133797945
Worst Hiiragi
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>>133797851
Best bro with the crappiest life.
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>>133797851
Best boy.
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I'm really tired of those obnoxious MCs that just go around yelling nothing but
>MUH NAKAMA
>FUCK STRATEGY
>SAVE EVERYONE
without even trying to comprehend risks and goals.

And if they just ignore orders, they somehow almost never fuck things up, not to mention being punished for insubordination.
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>>133798355
he must be downgraded
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>>133797945
>kureto being a bully
>guren being a cute dad
WIT better not cut out too much.
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hnnnnnnnnng now I gotta wait another week
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>>133797945
He is worse than Kureto
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Why this thread is so slow
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>>133799586
Shitters drove everyone away.
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>>133799586
people still watching maybe, they're usually slow to start
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>>133799586
They're all dead.
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I know I shouldn't but I laughed.
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Here we go again...
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Shonoa
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>>133799838
I don't get it is it the QUALITY or them just getting wrecked
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Kool aid vampire
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>>133800449
Crowley not giving a fuck and tossing Guren at Shinya. It was really funny to me for some reason, more than in the manga.
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>>133797375
>>133797533
>>133797567
>>133797934
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>>133799966
27 KA on one episode? Heh, we're heading to WIT QUALITY territory again. This isn't a good sign t bh.

Next episode's preview looks nice though.
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>>133800514
Seriously I can't hate this goofy motherfucker
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This is rape
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>>133800942
SO who is the big bad if the series end after episode 24?
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>>133801001
I liked how he dismissively removed her hand from his face.
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>>133800072
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>>133797851
Oh shit. I thought we didn't get another birthday until Shinoa.
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>>133799586
I'm still downloading. Woke up late and have shitty internet.
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>>133801592
Why is his head Saturn?
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>>133794895
Is that Goshi's smoke? Is he making an illusion to impress Shigure? Does she want to see her teamates undress each other?
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>>133794512

Crowley is this show's Lu Bu, yet he's still not even close to Krul's powerlevel. What chance in hell do the humans even have? The power gap is too large.
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>>133801592
You're badly informed. There's at least 2 more birthdays until then, main characters no less.
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>>133801843
I have a feeling if this anime doesn't go pass chapter 39 (the Kureto Feisco) then he's the big bad.
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>>133801843
Hopefully once humans learn how to enslave angels it'll be less of a gap.
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>>133801843
I'm betting on Crowley joining humans eventually.
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>>133801632

How much time its takes you to download an episode?
I just want to compare with the time it gets me to do it.
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>>133801963
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>>133798355
Why they don't fire weapon?
Why they don't use tank?
Why they don't use bombers?
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>>133801963
I don't see a reason for him to even consider it. He could just follow Ferid and Ferid does do things to be a troll/amuse himself though.
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>>133802086
an hour for 400mb, I think.
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>>133802145
If things get too complicated he looks like the kind of guy to do his own thing. Chess and Horn don't like Ferid and Crowley is only obeying because he's curious and knows better than to get on the bad side of a higher progenitor. But if Krul sides with humans, everything will change.
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>>133802130

It must suck to be such an idiot. Life must literally be a roller-coaster ride for you. On the other hand, perhaps life is much easier to enjoy when you're this simple-minded.
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For reference. Might contain typos or errors.

November
22 Shinya
23 Yoichi
26 Kimizuki

December
05 Crowley
25 Shinoa

January
01 Mito
14 Kagiyama
25 Seishirou

February
02 Rika
05 Aiko
14 Aoi

March
10 Shuusaku
31 Kureto

April
01 Chess

May
01 Mika
10 Shigure
15 Goshi
23 Sayuri

July
07 Mitsuba
26 Mahiru

August
21 Lacus
23 Kurunoki
28 Guren

September
09 Rene
19 Makoto
21 Horn
27 Tenri

October
01 Yayoi
16 Yuu
27 Krul
31 Ferid
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>>133802400
>nobody in June
Ok ;_;
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>>133802475
I thought it was weird too. Maybe I made a mistake.
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>>133802400
Guren has two birthdays.
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>>133802556
Nevermind. Sorry, I was thinking about his blood type.
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>>133802556
What do you mean? Demon Mahiru?
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>Shinya
>Yoichi

Two best boys back to back.
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>>133802556
>>133802665
Oh, that. Did his blood type really change? I thought it was infected.
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>Guren LN English release pushed to January

Fucking Vertical.
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>>133801648
kek
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>>133802828
Are there any details about it yet? Is it the first four novels? Hardcover?
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>>133802828
>no LN adaptation ever
It hurts.
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>>133802960
>Paperback: 350 pages
>Includes 28 pages of illustrations, 7 of them in color!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1941220983

Judging by the illustration number, it should cover Japanese volumes 1-2. It's very cheap, I hope everyone buys a copy. I think the reason why this series got attention licensing wise is because most people that read the manga actually bought it.
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>>133800942
Where did budget go?
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>>133801843
I can't help but like Crowley, I guess once you reach a certain level of power you just stop giving shits and just play along for fun
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>>133803240
Mika sucking Yuu
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>>133803196
Nice. Thanks. I'll preorder it.
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>>133803240
Next episode probably.
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>>133803242
I like him too, I like his calm demeanor.
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>>133803196
>people that read the manga actually bought it

Yeah I don't usually buy much manga, but the art being so nice convinced me.
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Will pre-order!
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>>133802400
Oh sick I share a birthday with Mito
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>>133803196
Looks like the second volume (another 400 pages) is up for preorder too, with a late May release.
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>>133803512
My birthday's just two days after yours

>mfw my birthday never has anything cool happening
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>>133802400
>05 Aiko
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>>133803567
Eh, having a birthday on a holiday is pretty shitty, desu. I never have to work, but all my happiness for the year is crammed between Christmas and New Year's and then it's just nothing until next December.

[Spoiler]new years and birthday sex at once is really fucking good though.
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>>133803558
What I don't understand is why the list price of the first one is 17.95 and the second one is only 14.95.
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>>133803667
Just fucking kill me.
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I fucking love the filters, everything is so classy and polite.
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>>133803667
I've never had to work on my birthday, ever. I remember always being sad for never getting to go to school on my birthday, either. I know that feel, though. My family always just made my birthday Christmas when I was a kid.
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>>133803747
I have to agree with this. The site suddenly became a lot nicer. Who would have guessed that filtering things to say "desu senpai" would have suddenly made this site almost hugbox-y.

What filters to senpai, by the way? I have honestly never been filtered, so I do not know.
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>>133803987
F a m, I think.
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>>133803462
it seems you've activated my trap card.
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I don't want to sound like a shonen babby faggot over here, but I seriously want to see more unstoppable Seraph action.

Isn't that shit kind of the point of the show?
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>>133804264
The vampire/human conflict has been so one-sided that I just want to see some stronger vampires get wrecked.
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This episode was embarrassingly bad, from the QUALITY to the "military action" going on. These guys don't plan anything, they just do whatever they want because of feelings. Too late to drop this now, I just hope it gets better.
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>>133804530
But Guren had plan, like he and Shinya should have been decoys while others had to release prisoners.
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>>133803196
>28 pages of illustrations, 7 of them in color
I'm really glad they're including everything. It would be nice if the backcover was the cover of the second volume.
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>>133803462
Now I wanna see the cast playing in a tournament, only for some guy to play vampires and get disqualified and executed by the Hiiragis.
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>>133794512
I need the OST
AND I NEED IT NOW
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>>133804874
been out for months senpai
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>>133804530
WIT didn't find a way.
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>84% of /a/
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>>133804604
That was never the plan, that was only what ended up happening. The idea was for everyone to get in, rescue the hostages and get out in 5 minutes somehow, and this was all decided on a whim after a brief exchange of EMOTION because fuck concrete plans. Oh, and this after Guren gave the order for shota boy to fire at one of the nobles. Fucking why? They weren't even prepared for battle. For all they new, the vampires could have been waiting to ambush them. Makes no sense. My head hurts.
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>>133805052
>That was never the plan
See >>133804944
He even flat out says it.
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>>133805052
It's like you didn't watch the episode and yet feel compelled to talk bad about it. Why are you so upset over an anime you're not watching?
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I just can't even
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>>133805215
It's like he is sitting on air. Or hanging from the ceiling.
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>>133805108
Like everything in this show so far, that was only decided in the heat of battle. They never discussed it before deploying. In fact, they pretty much decided nothing at all except having 420 guy in close enough range so that he could puff away some illusions. That ways the crux of the plan, it was never to bait nobles, and I doubt they would have decided on a bait team of two guys, however strong, against three nobles. I don't know how it goes in the manga, mas this sure was pretty lame.

>>133805198
Why so defensive, anon? I was actually reasonably enjoying this show, despite some minor annoyances, but this episode was just bad. Either say your piece or get out. /a/ is full of whiny defensive little faggots already.
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>reading some reviews on season 1 since I just love contracting cancer
>MAL, reddit and practically every other blogger is comparing this to AoT
>calling this the typical shonen self-insert power fantasy
>calling the vampires boring

holy shit I'm reaching terminal stages - like the one anime that actually pulls off the vampire society structure and military decently enough and people call it boring just because it has vampires what the fuck?
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>>133805052
>Being this mad
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>>133805368
>They never discussed it before deploying
They have obviously discussed it if Guren said that they did their jobs. Anime just didn't show it, they don't need to show every conversation. You seems to be retarded.
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Is this the first time we've seen a female vampire infantryman?
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>>133795108
do we have a webm of this yet?
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>>133805368
But you are the only one who is whining here
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>>133805372
>pulls off military decently
>commander has to remind his grunts not to fuck around on their most dangerous mission
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>Wow Guren might actually die here.
>Oh wait nope shitty writing obviously means Yu will go beserk and kill Crowley.

I really can't wait for this show to be over, This writing is atrocious.
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>>133805633
I meant vampires actually have to go out and fight, havea chain of command and internal structure, not to mention use their own tech instead of being a passive part of the story

it's a nice comparison and contrast versus what humans have and how they operate
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>>133803253
>the next episodes will be slideshows with stickman animations for battle scenes accompanied with text to speech voices
>last mika yuu sex scene will be animated in 60fps with a soundtrack composed by Hans Zimmer and the studio will also pay the voice actors enough to have actual sex with each other for authentic love sound
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>>133799586
every seraph thread has been pretty slow.
I personally like it this way.

>>133801632
This
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>>133805674
Don't be silly, Lulu. Why would Guren die if his sword is of another colour? And it's not like he had flesh, bones and veins pierced by a huge sword anyway.
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>>133805368
> it was never to bait nobles, and I doubt they would have decided on a bait team of two guys, however strong, against three nobles.
Guren does have an escape plan, though the anime makes it seem like Goshi thought up the plan
It would have worked if Shinoa squad didn't interfere
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>>133799838
i literally lost it when shinya was hovering in the air while talking instead of shooting
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>>133799838
>IEE SEMPAI!
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>>133805933
In the manga, he fired and Crowley slashed all the barrages away
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>>133806131
It probably saved them a few jewbucks to just have a image of him hover for a while. WIT a stinky shitty jew.
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>>133802167

More and less like me, 60 to 50 mins for 500mb.
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>>133801843
>Crowley still not even close to Krul's powerlevel

holy shit
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>>133806377
What are you suggesting, anon? That the animation was, dare I say it, bad?
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>>133806539
I want to repopulate the Earth with her.
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Why are vampire girls far more beautiful compared to human girls in this show?
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>>133805368
They discussed the outline of the plan before the battle even started. All of the squads going after nobles were decoys, their goal wasn't to survive but to kill as many nobles as they could while Kureto drove his men there. Their hostage position was to buy time for Shinoa and Makoto squads to free them the moment Guren and Shinya realized the noble was just too strong when they sniped at him. This is why there was no second shot, even Crowley's sluts point it out. If all went wrong everyone is to run away and rendezvous at the airport. He said this, literally, unlike your figurative accusations. Either watch the episode or get out. /a/ is full of whiny little faggots who complain about everything already.
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>>133806892
No diseases and stuff.
Also, fangs.
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>>133805215
Not only this, but also how he literally flies the first time Guren attacks Crowly. Stays in air for a while while swinging his sword.
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>>133807246
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>>133807246
Disgusting. You sure have low standards when it comes to saving fanart.
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>>133805916
Maybe he's got that shit where his heart's on the other side of his chest.

Or maybe whoever wrote that bit forgot how the fuck humans work
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>>133807541
One thing I can't stand is when a surprise attack is supposed to happen, but the character is monologing
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>>133807755
Yep. All that "HEY DUDE CHECKMATE LMAO" was dumb as fuck.
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Whose the strongest vampire in the manga?
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>>133808332
Must be the first progenitor.
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>>133808332
You have three guesses and the first two don't count.
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>>133808715
Why do they follow Crowley? It's not like he is their lord.
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>>133808800
Because of their lust for his blood
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Her head looks weird
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>>133808800
He could be the same way Krul is Mika's. Remember that vampires can be turned by drinking vampire blood. Nice digits.
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When will loli-sama return?
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>>133808892
All anime heads look weird.
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>>133809160
Hopefully soon.
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>>133809160
When she's done removing kebab.
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>>133807246
how can you be skilled enough to draw this but not see that the eyes are too far apart?
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>>133809325
It just happens. When you realize the mistakes too late you've already coloured everything.
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>>133809325
>>133809471
>It just happens
The only thing drawn well in that picture is her ass. The coloring makes her look like an inflatable doll.
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>>133809471
but why release something half arsed and not just take some extra time and fix it?
also an error like that should've been noticed long before you even started coloring
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Why does Mika want Yu to join the vampires, when his argument is the humans are using Yu. I'm sure being fed on is being used. What is Mika's defense in siding with those who enslaved,fed, and then killed his family?
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>>133809592
The artist is obviously an amateur. They tend to fuck up a lot.
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>>133809709
Mika is not a very smart or well written character.
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>>133794512

Is it me or that group following guren and shinoa's squads giving a huge amount of death flags?
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>>133808800

He is probably the one who turned them
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>>133809709
Krul told him about her hidden intentions, remember how Mika was shocked to hear it. We don't know what they are as for now, but it must be something convincing
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Wow glenn is weak as fuck
i thought he had some hidden power up and haxx but he just get shited on
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>>133809685
For many who've done it for years and actually improved over time, they would look at that in shame. But when you're still learning you can be quite oblivious to seemingly obvious flaws. Getting good takes a long time and people just want to draw their shit.
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>>133809709
>>133809891

She probably told mika how big and bad the humies are and how good and benevolent the vampires are.
And mika swallowed it all

Mika is not meant to be likable by non-fujos
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>>133809995
>glenn

who the fuck is hat?
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>>133810048
i mean guren, sorry
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>>133810047
She obviously told him something more specific and we'll know what is her plan in time.
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>>133809709
Mika is a retard and does everything wrong.
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>>133810125

>local homosexual vampire ruins everything
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>>133809709
Because they turned Yuu into a walking demon tree or whatever, Mika doesn't really seem to give a shit about humans or vampires he just wants to run away with Yuu and live happily ever after.
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>>133794598
Gosh, anon, why are you such a loser?
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>>133809709
He doesn't want Yuu to join the vampires and he doesn't side with them, Mika hates both humans and vampires. It's just that, as a temporary plan when he first met Yuu, taking him with him sounded less dangerous than leaving him with Guren and co. because he could protect him. But he later realized this was probably a bad idea because he didn't know what they were going to do to Yuu if/when they got him, this is why Krul told him what her plans were as a way to convince him to stay loyal to her. Krul has a secret agenda with the seraphs and she saved him and Yuu, so Mika gives her the benefit of the doubt. Mika trusts no one else, though. He cut Ferid's arm when he touched Yuu the first time they met.
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>all these yaoi baiting
This show is 2gay4me. Dropped
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>>133810310
I'm sure they are going to let the surviving members of the experiment just run away peacefully and survive on fire ants and treebark in the mountains.
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>>133810448

Krul probably offered to cover Yuu and Mika or some other related shitty plan .

Mika is honestly an annoying nigger
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>Yuu and Shinoa are acting like husband and wife
>Guren and Shinya fujobait intensifies
fuck this show
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>>133810310
>>133810448
Yu has his new friend and comrades. Mika has nothing and is now a slave to blood. Yu can only try and hold on to the image of Mika as his family for so long. I think Mika is going from saving Yu to being a salty fuck because his life sucks.
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>>133810611
>Mika is honestly an annoying nigger
a cute annoying nigger
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>>133805586
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I just notice that Sayuri weapon is Katana made of paper folded 1000 times
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>>133810761

His drive to save Yuu probably comes from how he likely blames himself for the death of his family and desire to save atleast one person

Despite the fact that he is working for the people that killed his family and he got a huge hate boner for the enemies of said people, due to some unexplained reason
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Mika did nothing wrong.
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>>133810852
Don't all vampire know that human that caused the apocalypse?
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>>133810761
Mika hates vampires for killing his family and humans for doing human experiments on Yuu. He thinks that all humans are out there to get him and Yuu because of the seraph experiment, this was probably intensified by the vampires poisoning him for years. But he already started to realize that not every human that hangs out with Yuu agrees or is aware of the experiments and they might actually be good people. Mika only needs to spend some time with them to be less salty. If this happens soon enough he'll start seeing them as his new family, like Yuu did.
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>>133811071

I still fail to see how that would make an ex-human hate humans as intensely as mika does
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I see the "dere" of the smugdere is very dangerous.
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>>133811124
Mika is just insecured
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>>133810785
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>>133811071
The vamps are always saying how humans caused all the destruction. Why do they even care though, only humans died from the virus and vamps can easily kill the monsters. They seem butthurt over nothing.
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>>133811290

Its just brainwashing, giving the other vampires for a reason to commit genocide (other than for feeding) and something for the kids they herd to curse at
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>>133811182
*Retarded
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>>133811290
I'd be butthurt too if food suddenly became scarce.
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>>133811290
Wouldn't you get mad if your food killed itself?
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>>133811290
They're butthurt because over 80% of their blood supply disappeared in the apocalypse. Don't forget they feed on human blood. That's why they went to the surface and started to capture and keeping humans alive underground. It's to prevent them from killing themselves even further and leaving vampires without any blood supply left.
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>>133811124
He thinks they are using Yuu, what's there not to understand? And in fact they are using him.
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Will it ever be explained how the apocalypse exactly happened and why it did such a piss-poor job of killing shit?
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>>133811502
It was an experiment that went wrong and spread a deadly virus. Some people had a cure for it but not everyone was able to take it in time.
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>>133811448
Without their protection and resources a human can't survive in the ruined world filled with hungry and crazy vamps.
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>>133811584

...and what about the knights of john or whatever they are called?
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>>133811598
They are still using him. Also they are doing human experiments.
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>>133809709
literally read the latest 5 chapters of the manga

also
>join the vampires
it's not THAT simple
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>this thread

This is a shounen, not a complex 2deep4u cartoon. Are you watching it with your eyes closed or something?
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>>133811637
Failed seraph experiments. Notice that like Yuu on seraph mode they only target humans, never vampires, and they also have wings.
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>>133811722

Thanks well informed anon
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>>133811663
Yes, and? Mika's brilliant plan is grab him and die out in the middle of nowhere? The best case scenario is dying from starvation.
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>>133811124
If it wasn't for the apocalypse, Mika and Yu would live peacefully, Mika wouldn't become a vampire. I'm not even talking about the seraph experiment, humans made them both into monsters, not vampires.
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>>133811788
Anytime, senpai.
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>>133811906
>Mika's brilliant plan is grab him and die out in the middle of nowhere?
What? He was acting according to Krul's plan.
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They're dead.
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>>133811906
>Yes, and?
It's enough reason to hate humans.
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>>133811372
>>133811393
>>133811411
After setting up the blood bank operations is there that much of a food shortage. Sounds like they want a huge buffer 24/7. There is also those picky fucks treating blood like vintage wine.
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>>133812040
But will it happen in the Anime though? They are half demons after all
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>>133812040
>there's no way we'll die
>they die
>you aren't good enough
>no you
>checkmate
>no you
10/10 writing
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>>133812119
How are you enjoying your first anime?
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>>133812040

>"We should leave"
>"There is no way we gonna die"
>Barely any exposition to the other characters beside the leader
>They are all alone
>Mika is going towards them

Dead/10
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Waiting for the purest smile
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God this episode had some shitty fighting scenes.
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>>133811992
And if he had any sense at all he'd know why that's fucking retarded. But no one expects critical thinking out of him.
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>>133812115
What? they only have contract with demons and most of them are not even black demon users.
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>>133812525
Tell me, why it is retarded, you must have heard her secret agenda already.
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>>133812617
Because the vampires are just as terrible and his plan of running away from both organizations and living on their own might work for him, because he can rape any defenseless human for food, but not for Yuu. And they are not going to be left alone. The human army and vampires will still pursue them.
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>>133812779
Krul isn't like the other vampires, she risked her own life to save Mika and Yuu. To Mika she's the only person that actually did something for them. Why is it retarded to trust someone like that? Not to mention she has a lot of power.
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>>133812779
He wasn't running away, Krul wants them to do something for her and Mika somehow finds it acceptable. Must be better than staying with humans who made them both into an eldritch abominations and arranged an apocalypse.
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>>133812964
True, Yuu and Mika had a much better life with the vampires compared to humans. The vampire Queen can certainly be trusted.
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>>133812964

>Vampires
>Want to fuck all humans and create them as livestock, would likely treat you as slave trash if you didn't turn

>Humans
>SOME want to experiment on you, most are chill and are bros

Hmm
tough choice...
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>>133812917
I got the impression that Yuu trusts her more than Mika does now, that boy is too gullible.
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>>133813442
>some
>just the ones running the whole human society

Both sides suck.
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Hey guys.
Was Mitsuba relevant this episode?
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>>133813549

Yeah but humans got some nice people
Vampires only got cunts and silly faggots like crowley
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>>133813583
Who?
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Is the point of this anime watching how hardcore Yuu tries to be hardcore but his friends won't let him be?
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>>133813442
>Want to fuck all humans
Not all, they only need a certain amount for their subsistence.
>SOME want to experiment on you
Yeah, and that specific humans happened to be Yuu's military bosses.
>...
Kill yourself.
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>>133813442

>Krul
>will donate her blood to you whenever you need it, lets you do whatever you want as long as you don't get in her way, wants to help you and your bro

>humans
>for all that you know they experimented with you and your bro in secret and are still exploiting him

>vampires
>they'll keep you alive in exchange of blood but are insufferable faggots

Tough choice indeed.
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>>133813629
Not cool.
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>>133813606
But you are silly faggot, anon.
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What if there are two equally big bads, a human and a vampire and Yuu and Mika each fight one?
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Whats with all the vampires lurking the thread today?
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>>133813583
I think she only has like 2 lines this episode
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Guren is my waifu.
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>>133813702
>Krul
>Cute loli but only gives a shit about mika, who is shit

>humans
>some higher ups need to put down but overall great bros Yuu is indebted to and cares about

>vampires
>mustache twirling villains who treat humans like livestock, are hostile bitches even to other vampires

Humans race > vampire race. Not too hard here. People who feed on humans are not something to be kept around.
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>>133813720
Vampires are faggots and Krul is the same as the humans who want to use the seraph. If you are going to get used May as we'll be on the side defending your other humans. Eventually you can hope to remove those who want to use you against your will
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>>133813741
Come on anon, don't be mad.
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>>133813807
Ignore the fujos.
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Why couldn't Crowley and his bitches be the main characters?
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>>133813957
I want to hold his hand.
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>>133805533
I think so, I noticed her (well, her tits) as well so it has to be the first one.
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>>133811668

>or something?

Yes, I am watching it with my dick in your slut mom's mouth.
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>>133813990
This.
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>>133813990
The Demon Army aren't defending humans at all, they're guinea pigs for their world conquest. They'll wind up destroying the world and killing everyone at this rate.
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>>133813961
>some higher ups need to put down
That higher ups include even Guren actually. He was making humans experiments too.
>mustache twirling villains who treat humans like livestock
Humans treat their own kin as experiment material and killed more people than vampires have ever managed to. Humans are trash.
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>>133813990
>Krul is the same as the humans who want to use the seraph
How do you know this? Humans are using the seraph as weapons but you don't know how Krul wants to use them. Krul's brother is trapped, she might want to use the seraphs to free him or something like that. That's something Mika would sympathize with.

>If you are going to get used May as we'll be on the side defending your other humans
What other "his" humans? To Mika all the humans he cared about are dead and the only ones left alive are the ones exploiting his bro. You don't get it, Mika thinks all the humans that are left are either evil or creatures beyond saving. He's a hypocrite and deluded in the sense that he thinks Yuu is different. Mika changes this attitude when he started to think it through and realizes Yuu's friends might be different.
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>>133813957
Mahiru pls go, you're dead.
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>>133813990
>Krul is the same as the humans who want to use the seraph
Apparently she is not, you can't judge her because still don't know what's her plan. Mika wants Yu to be safe, and if he thinks that Krul's side is better option that must say something about her.
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On long term Humans is the way to go

Just because they caused the apocalypse once doesn't mean that they gonna cause again, and experiments are the only true way to gain fast scientific knowledge
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>>133814254
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>>133814177
>Humans treat their own kin as experiment material and killed more people than vampires have ever managed to. Humans are trash.

Certain humans as opposed to ALL vampires feeding on and using people as livestock and letting live in poorfag conditions where they need to spread their boypussy for potatoes.
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>>133794512
>>133794573
>>133794598

It's going to be a shame when she gets reduced to ash.
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>Vampires
All are faggots,cunts and cheeky

>Humans
Some are faggots,cunts and madmen

Humans>Vampires

Dont let the legal loli confuse you, she is just using them for her vampire keikaku
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>>133814297
If you say so.
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>>133814109
Is not that Kureto doing? How about Dad Hiiragi, he seems experiment on himself and his family rather than other humans,the seraph experiment back then was from Hyakuya sect
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>>133814297
They're on the path to cause it again, they're continuing right from where they left off.
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>>133814382
>>133814364
>>133814297
Vampire society is far more susteinable. Just kill enough of them to make them aware humans can fight back and remove the worst ones..
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ITT people who fail to realize that the Seraph Project only exists to cause the apocalypse and destroy and that Hiiragi's plan of sovereignty to kill everyone, destroy everything and then repopulate the world with the humans they deem fit to do so.
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>>133814396
Hard to tell, from what Mika said all of the human organizations around the world are experimenting on humans. It's not isolated but widespread, the ones in Japan seem to be the worst though.
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>>133814459
No. Vampires need to be removed completely.
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>>133814364
>Certain humans as opposed to ALL vampires
That certain humans have direct control over Yuu now, that's the problem Mika is trying to solve.
Also killing your own kind is much worse than killing someone who is a livestock to you. Just like humans kill animals for food. That's just vampire's nature.
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>>133814515
So humans can genocide themselves again? beside, remove vampires, make a second apocalypse, and god only knows what will wake up this time.
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>>133814515
If you remove the vampires you have no demon stock left to put in your weapons which means you won't be able to defeat Horsemen of John which means you'll be fucked eventually. It's like saying spiders need to be removed completely and then being fucked over by all kinds of insects.
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>>133814515

Remove Vampire
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>>133814382

Krul is pretty cool, and Chess a cute.

I actually think that the vampires have potential to be the more interesting part of the story. The problem is that they receive about as much focus as a typical antagonistic group. It's basically 90% humans, 10% vampires (including Mika).
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>>133814297
>experiments are the only true way to gain fast scientific knowledge
Yeah, you can say so until they start making experiments on you and your family.
>Just because they caused the apocalypse once doesn't mean that they gonna cause again
Humanity is shit, all its history of bloody wars says the opposite.
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>>133814582
>>133814580

Whoa the vampire internet defense force is in full force tonight
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>>133814529
Even then with the way they've set up their society humans are being used as blood banks, killing is frowned upon. At the end of this the only reason humans will still exist is because they were kept as livestock I bet.
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>>133814529
>killing your own kind is much worse than killing someone who is a livestock to you
They are both equally terrible.
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>>133814632

>Humanity is shit, all its history of bloody wars says the opposite.

It's funny because the same political games are happening among the vampires. How long until the war to overthrow Krul, simply over power hunger?
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Laugh
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>>133810448
And Shinoa has only saved his life twice by now and yet the salty fuck still doesn't trust her. But is all right with Krul because she saved him once
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>>133814708
No they are not. Killing for food is not the same as murdering species of your own kind.
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>>133794914
I'd think most people have read the manga. I skip an episode occasionally myself.
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>>133814618
As it should be, because vampires a shit.
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>>133814762
Krul > Shinoa and you know it.
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>>133814708
Vegan detected.
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>>133814618
The only interesting vampires to me are Mika, Krul, Crowley and his girls. Everyone else is either a douchebag or a pedo.

>>133814642
Joke's on you, I prefer Guren's, Narumi's and Shinoa's squad. That doesn't mean I can't spot a necessary evil when I see one. If humans removed the vampires right now, they'd be fucked.
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>>133814769
Are you chuuni trying too hard to pretend you're a fictional vampire or do you not realize humans are not equivalent to cows? The show makes a point of how warped that line of thinking is.
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>>133814762
Because she is a human, Mika is tsundere with human
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>>133814762
He also lived with Krul for years and got to know her.
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>>133814762
Mika doesn't remember the first one and by the looks of it Shinoa doesn't either, so it counts as one. The last time Mika saw her, she was all over Yuu and he thought she was using him. Krul on the other hand had been feeding Mika for 4 years and kept him alive in secret, something that could get her killed by her fellow vampires. Why you're comparing both of them is beyond me.
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>>133814762
>mika
>logic
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>>133814264
Mika is not the best at choosing vampire allies. He let Crowley suck him dry and that didn't go to well for his family
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>>133814894
>humans are not equivalent to cows
They are for vampires. That's the logic of the fictional world of Seraph.
>>
Not sure if you're all being purposely stupid today or are just random casuals that picked up a few episodes and are confused.
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>>133814982
And the series tells you this is wrong and sick. That's the whole reason the MC and family tried FLEEING them.
>>
This reminds me of the recent arguments in Shiki thread. Some people are always butthurt over vampires because they just can't accept that there are some creatures looking at them like humans look at cows. Even if said creatures are fictional. That's just human arrogance.
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>>133815136
At least make an effort to memorize his name.
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Fuck vampires. I would rather Kureto singlehandedly destroy the entire world that have the vampires keeping humans enslaved for food.
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>>133815136
It's literally the same thing that movies like Chicken Run tell you, just with humans as the ones running away.
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>>133815136
>And the series tells you this is wrong and sick
No, it tells me humans are assholes who experiment on each other and made a genocide, while you can cooperate with vampires. Even blood-sucking monsters are better than humanity.
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>>133815178
They've got their heads so much up their asses they fail to realize the flaw of their reasoning. It's OK to look at cows like cows but got forbid something else looking at humans the same way. It's what happens when people think they're at the top of the food chain just because they life comfortable lives. One day spent in the jungle would heal them pretty fast.
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>>133815309
Both cows and vampires are shit.
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>>133815207
Aoi please go.
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>>133815352
>not liking milk and beef
Pleb taste.
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>>133801843
It's not that massive of a gap and Ferid already said if he had taken Yu's slash in Seraph mode he would have probably died.
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>>133815410
I really hope they're fucking.
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>>133815207
Fuck Kureto and the vampires. Guren breaking free of Mahiru's demon, getting Yu to recover his sanity when he goes Seraph, and then using the Seraph bullshit to revive mankind and purge the Hiiragi House from the face of the Earth, and finally taking his son out on a world tour with his resurrected waifu and her sister is the only way to go.
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>>133815493
Not a single straight male in this show except Yoichi.
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>>133815518
Shinya please go.
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>>133815493
I don't know man. Kureto's preferred women are "A woman who would bear him a first-rate child / An assertive woman who doesn't act like his yes-man" and Aoi seems like a yes-man.

Then again you don't need to be in like/love with a woman to fuck her.
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>>133815518
You remember that Guren is in cahoots with Ferid, right?
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>>133815178
>>133815309

It says here that you like vampires
Care to elaborate why you like evil shit?
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>>133815518
>happy family end with guren/mahiru and yu/shinoa
I wish, anon.
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>>133805052
He wants to be captured in the first place he's working with that super gay vampire. Yu kinda fucks shit up by not leaving things be.
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>>133815590
so he could fuck her but won't marry her
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guren is yu's dad?
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>>133815658
They are as evil as people who eat meat.
>>
Both Mika and Yuu are fucking retards

The main problem with Mika is that he is a idiot that thinks he is always right no matter how many times he fucks up, and then proceeds to say Yuu is the stupid fuck of the two

Yuu at the very least knows he is a idiot and accepts it
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>>133815615
You remember how Ferid himself said his real collaborator is Mahiru possessing Guren right?
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>>133815684
If a shota falls on you it's a legally binding contract that you're their dad now.
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>>133815815
>pushed over by a sad shota
Guren is never going to not job.
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>>133815684

That is chronically and physically impossible
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Where are they gonna end this, they will catch up to the manga in like 3 episodes.
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>>133815988
After the anime original ending
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>>133815767
Has Mahiru also been a vampire in the past? Because the demons are former vampires. So she was turned into vampire by somebody and after that was turned into demon?
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>>133815815
>20 years old
>your dead waifu tells you to go out in the middle of the night in the cold snow to find a shota
>she didn't tell you that he's dumb as shit and a pain in the ass
>she didn't tell you that you're now his dad for the rest of your life
Guren's life is suffering.
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>>133815873
I laughed.
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>>133816128
Yes, Krul turned her into a vampire.
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>>133816128
She was the daughter of a possessed woman, who was born with her own demon, started losing her shit due to the cursed gear research and protecting Shinoa, and was then turned into a vamp by Krul as part of their agreement.
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>>133815815
perfect example of shota imprinting

also pic related is best girl
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>>133816261
>>133816197
My head hurts. I don't understand, does it mean Ferid has an agreement with Krul? But they seem to have different goals, they are acting like enemies.
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>>133816319
He is Krul's brother
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Why would you bring Shinya into a CQC battle anyway? By his own admission that's not his forte. Guren should have brought Mito instead.
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>>133816380
Nah, Mahiru is just fucking around behind the scenes without really explaining anything to anyone.

>>133816492
Don't let his statement trick you. Shinya is fucking strong in CQC and only loses to Kureto and Guren because they've always been stronger.
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>>133816587
>Shinya is fucking strong in CQC

Compared to what? The last time he tried it was with Yuu, who was obviously really inexperienced and underestimated him.

He's a sniper, there's no reason to believe he'd be an especially capable combatant in melee.
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>>133815590
Not a fujo but the only person that fits into that description is Guren.
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>>133816692
Compared to fucking everyone else who serves the Hiiragi House including Mito, Goshi, everyone else in Guren's squad, and a fuckton of kids he killed getting his spot as Mahiru's fiancee. The only people he's ever been weaker to are Guren, Kureto, and Mahiru.
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>>133816261
>started losing her shit due to the cursed gear research
It was because she started menstruating, actually.
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>>133816873
How do you know?
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>>133816380
Krul had an agreement with Mahiru herself. Ferid has an agreement with Guren himself. I think. But he only did this because he knows he's a Namanari so he thinks he's actually dealing with a demon and not a regular human. Meanwhile Guren thinks he's in control and totally not being used.
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>>133816913
The Guren LN, anon. The whole reason Shinya is even a Hiiragi is because they wanted someone worthy of fucking Mahiru, so they had him fight to the death against a bunch of other kids until he was the only survivor. After that, Mahiru shows up and wrecks him like nothing, and then years later, Guren is stuck saving his ass by being a total badass instead of the humongous wimp he was acting out in order to trick the Hiiragi for his eventual war against them.
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For the slowest of pokes, look at her eye color >>133815671
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Soon.
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I don't think I can get used to it.
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>>133816895

Wow, that...makes sense.
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>>133817692
>women on their periods = women possessed by demons

Seems legit. When you start menstruating it kind of feels like you have a demon inside of you sucking and latching to your inside walls and devouring your insides out. This experience can last until you give birth to at least one child or take drugs that on the long run do more harm than good so it's actually a pretty valid comparison.

tl;dr all of this could have been avoided if Mahiru got pregnant.
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>>133816801
>wants an assertive woman who won't say yes to him all the time
>everyone knows that the hiragi's are crazy fucks and don't want to die so they say yes to you all the time
>everyone sucks up to the hiragis to get better positions in life
>only person that asserts themselves is a distant relative from the shit-tier branch of the family and an asshole

Kureto's love life is suffering.
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I was just realizing how cruel this image is because Mika doesn't like curry anymore.
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>>133817421
>>133817516
Looks like shit with red eyes
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>>133816801
Guren would be a top-tier waifu if he was a woman.
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>>133818371
I don't like it either.
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>>133818418
That's a catastrophe
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>>133814591
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>>133794512

i really wish this multi-color hair faggot get his shit pushed back up his ass
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>>133818347
How would it taste if he tries to eat it? Would it be disgusting to him like normal food was to Kaneki?
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>>133818389
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>>133818347
Yuu can drip some of his blood on it like ketchup.
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>>133809325
>>133809471
>>133809685
>>133810040
A good way to prevent that from happening is to put an official image of the character side by side (or even better on top of the drawing) when you finish the line art. That way you can easily see that kind of mistakes
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>>133814582
Do you really need demon weapons to kill Horsemen, though? It'd be tougher maybe, but they seem like the sort of things that can be killed with magic and enchanted weapons, or even just enough firepower.

And besides, humanity is managing well enough against them with their current number of demon weapon holders. Those aren't going anywhere, and it would ostensibly be significantly easier if they didn't also have their hands full dealing with vampires.
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>>133818488
I'm glad I ran out of pictures.

>>133818669
I think it tastes like dust or something to that effect.
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>>133818547

Perfect
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>>133816801
>>133818389
Damn, now I want an AU of Kureto trying to romance a female Guren.
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>>133818418
Looks better with the manga art style.
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>>133818814
>Do you really need demon weapons to kill Horsemen, though?

Mika killed them just fine with his sword, so no you don't need them.
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>>133818827
Left to right:
>Mm. Smaller ones really are better.
>Huh? What the heck are you talking about?
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>>133818858
>that hell yeah motherfucker look
I can't wait for Yuu & Mika to team up in battle. If they could almost get Ferid when they were little kids imagine what they can do now.
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>>133818903
A vampire sword that sucks his blood
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>>133817421
>>133817516
Blue Mika is still superior.
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>>133818939
Thanks anon.
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>>133818982
He could always get colored contacts.
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>>133819012
>yu gets a cute adoptive mom instead
I didn't know I wanted this.
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>>133818962
I'm not entirely convinced Ferid didn't just let Yuu shoot him.

Especially after this episode, when Shinya literally tried the same thing on Crowley and it didn't work.
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>>133819030
They are still making those in the post-apocalypse world?
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>>133818814
It would just be incredibly hard for normal people. Yuu kills one with the sword Guren gave him back when he was part of the guard duty.
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>>133819063
Ferid might have overestimated them because they were just kids. He didn't look like he was happy about being shot in the head.
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>>133819012
Top, then right to left:
>Four years later
>Mama! Look, look!
>Something about this pisses me off...
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>>133819030
Lelouch please.
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>>133819063
So, he let Yuu shoot him and run away, while Guren had been already waiting for him and Ferid has agreement with Guren?
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>>133819063
Ferid made a deal with Mahiru and let Yu go on purpose (while Mahiru told Guren where to find him) so it's possible.
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>>133819078
Probably some still laying around in an abandoned store.
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>>133819125
>overestimated
Fuck, underestimated, obviously.
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>>133819167
I'm holding judgement on all this Ferid/Guren theorizing, it's just hard to believe that Ferid was really caught by surprise.
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>>133819162
Damn, that's cute. Thanks.
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>>133819055
>cute adoptive mom that gets possessed by her dead yandere demon husbando
this pls
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>>133819125
>He didn't look like he was happy about being shot in the head.

Even as he said it he was smiling, though.
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>>133818858
Mika looks older
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>>133819227
Consider the following.

- Mahiru makes a deal with Krul: she will keep the seraphs alive in Sanguinem after the apocalypse, it's the only way to save them
- Mahiru then makes a secret deal with Ferid: he will let the seraphs go free on a specific date so that research can continue
- Mahiru passes this intel to Guren who waits until that date to move to the designated location and wait for the seraphs to appear
- Ferid lets the seraphs escape as planned but he never promised he'd let all of them go so he has some fun with them first
- he catches Mika and thinks Yuu will run away, leaving Mika behind
- turns out Yuu didn't run away and gets him by surprise
- Ferid can't kill Yuu as well because his plan would be fucked so he takes the bullet instead, assuming he will run away next, without arising suspicion
- at least one seraph runs away, as planned, Guren gets him and resumes the experiment

It might have been part of Ferid's plan to keep Mika to himself to experiment on him but Krul got him first. Also, the data that Ferid passed on to Guren might have been data Ferid got from the other research facilities around the world.
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Does anyone else find the vampires too OP?

The humans need their own Inaho Kaizuka. It's boring seeing these smug vampires being smug all the time.
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>>133819557
He looks older in the manga, generally speaking.
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>>133819643
But the smuggest character is human
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>>133819654
Manga is so much superior to the anime quality
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>>133818962

You know, while the show has gotten better since the early episodes, I still don't care enough about the cast to really be invested in what happens to them. Shinoa is still the only character who's death would make me legitimately sad. And possibly Krul. I might mourn the loss of Mitsuba's, Chess's, and Horn's tits, but it would be just that: loss of fap material, not a loss of a character that I was really attached to. Well, I might be a little sad over wasted potential with Chess, since she's shown elements of a fun genki girl, and genki girls are great, but potential != realization.

That includes things like Yuu and Mika finally getting to be on the same side, of course.
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>>133819714
Nah, Crowley showed her who the boss of smug is last season.
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So, the humans have all these flashy tricky like Goshi's pipe, Kimizuki's coffin and Yuu's 9 Blade Works, whereas the vampires just have (a shit load of) raw speed, power and regeneration.

Do the vampires have any 'flashy' tricks?
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>>133819055
>>133819446
>cute adoptive mom
>head ruffles
>staying up with yu at night
>teaching him how to fight
>endless teasing
>telling yu to go get laid
>yu would rather die that leave his cute adoptive mom to die
My heart couldn't take all this cute.
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>>133819643
It wouldn't hurt if there was a separate faction that would occasionally defeat the vampires in the most amusing yet effective way possible.
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>>133819643

I'd actually say that's one of OnS's strong points. It's uncommon for grunt commanders to threaten the MC's team in a five-on-one fight.

A strong antagonist has the opposite effect of a strong protagonist. It raises the tension.
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>>133819643
I'm getting tired of watching recurring nobles effortlessly wreck the humans, yes.

It was a real bummer watching Guren and Shinya, ostensibly two of humanity's strongest fighters, get knocked around by Crowley while he wasn't even trying.

>>133819950
Doesn't seem like it. Though I wonder how those blood-sucking weapons came to be.
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>>133820188
Shounen fags can't handle their protags not winning every fight.
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>>133820188
>I'm getting tired of watching recurring nobles effortlessly wreck the humans
Humans have killed a noble just recently
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>>133820354
I'm fine with Yuu not winning any fight at all, he's just a rookie. It's no one except Kureto and vampires winning every fight that's the problem. You'd expect Guren to put up a fight but he does nothing but get beat up all the time, even Mika wiped the floor with him and he wasn't even a full vampire.
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Is Krul ever going to stomp a bitch or what?
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>>133820354
It's not about winning every fight. They don't even have to win, it would just be nice to see a non-no-name vampire actually have a hard time in combat.

Ferid and Crowley were practically yawning. It doesn't matter who wins, that's just not an interesting battle.
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>>133820444
It took them 30 humans to do that and super cheat-coded weapons. And even so, they almost got themselves killed.
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>>133820477
She's in the middle of it.
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>>133820461
>It's no one except Kureto and vampires winning every fight
And who killed Lucal Wesker?
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>>133820496
But it is interesting exactly because protagonists are not guaranteed to win.
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>>133820564
Retconned into suicide.
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>>133820564
Guren won one battle. That's even less than Yuu. And his whole team was a mess, Goshi said they had a hard time. Guren carries the most powerful weapon type, he shouldn't be that weak.
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>>133814396
All is going to be clarified in Mika's LN.

He didn't become paranoid "just because." It's very HEAVILY implied he saw some shit in his years.
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>>133820623
>because protagonists are not guaranteed to win.

But that's wrong. It's not that they aren't guaranteed to win, at this point it's more that they're guaranteed to lose.
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OP villains are only tolerable if the main characters beat them through intelligence and strategy, like Kiritsugu beating magus.
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>>133820517
>It took them 30 humans to do that and super cheat-coded weapons
As it should be, he was a noble. Nah, it's clearly that shounen fags are too used to see their heroes win and become easily butthurt when it's not so easy to kill an enemy as they usually see in the shounen garbage.
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>>133820564
That was probably the most and only interesting fight and it wasn't because they won.
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>>133820686
No, they will win eventually, it just wouldn't be an easy win. I bet you like Bleach.
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>>133799838
At the quality or at the fact that he has him at pointblanck but he had to shout "CHECKMATE" so he could realize and counteratack?
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>>133820793
anon, if the best you can do is make assumptions about the other party, than we'll just have to leave it at that. All you're doing is trying to devolve this into ad hominem.
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>>133819643
It's great to see smug villains get rekt by the most unexpected person but it also makes a lot of sense for the humans to struggle this much.
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>>133800072
>>133801341
The leader lives, though.
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>>133820741
Pretty sure anyone would get annoyed after almost 20 episodes of the bad guy always winning, regardless of watching shounen or not. Is the exact same thing of the average shounen but reversed. Vampires are pretty much the One Bite Men of this show.
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>>133814735
;_;
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>>133820651
It's very realistic that humans are struggling against monsters even with some magical weapons.
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>>133820860
So you like it?>>133820888
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>>133820888
But I'm not annoyed. Also Kureto is the main bad guy.
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>>133820919
If I wanted to know how humans fared against monsters realistically, I'd punch a lion in the face.
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>>133820706

This, and I don't want them to score a series of wins or anything like Kerry. Just one win. At this point humans might as well be running themselves into vampires' swords.

And why does Guren job so hard? He's one of the top fighters, has one of the strongest weapons, a ridiculously strong demon-vampire-human hybrid bitch inside of him, and possibly a deal with a vampire noble. What the fuck does he need?
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>>133821014
>trying to make japan rule the world
>evil
Anon pls.
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>>133821068
So you want to see a mandatory win for the current protags. You do realize you are asking for the shounen shit?
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>>133821087
Kureto was right all along. Guren is a useless nobody that only got his sword because it was a gift from his dead waifu.
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>>133821087
They had one win already.
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>>133803196
>most people that read the manga actually bought it
I believe it. I never really got into collecting manga but I really enjoy Seraph and the art is great so I bought it.
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>>133814582
Except that Yu killed them without demon sword. Where is your deity now?
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>>133821087
I'm not sure how far the anime is going to go but they do start making progress against the vampires eventually.
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>>133819063
He just didn't expect it I guess. When you underestimate someone and realize he's not as weak as you thought usually you just go into a losing streak.
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>>133821087
Guren suffers from Being The MC's Mentor Figure syndrome.
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>>133821168

But Shinya's jobbing, too. Everyone's jobbing. Put Kureto 1v1 against Crowley and I'm sure he'd be jobbing as well. Humans are jobbers extraordinaire in OnS. They might as well give up.
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>>133821292
So he will die eventually?
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>>133821323

I'd put my money on it.

Poor Guren. Has shit life, loses waifu, jobs hard, dies.
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>>133821163
Not really. I just want to see the elite squads not being so terrible at their jobs that they need newbies to save their asses every single time, that's all. It's curious how some say Yuu never wins because he does win, almost every time. Just not the way a classic hero wins. That irritates me. He's always saving Guren's incompetent ass.
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>>133821301
They are humans without superpowers, they have only demon weapons. What did you expect? Thanks god it's not some ordinary shonen nonsense
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>>133820188
It's pretty obvious, vampires are strong as fuck so you need group tactics in order to win which is the reason why Yu stopped acting like an edgy fag

Really it's kinda like complaining a big guy gets beaten by a gorilla.
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>>133814024
wait for the LN coming out in December its supposed to tell the story about how he was turned
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>>133821411

>not ordinary shounen nonsense
>yuu pulls through almost every single time for his nakama

right. if mika gets yuu away from the humans I guess they'd be really fucked, huh?
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>>133821399
>Just not the way a classic hero wins. That irritates me
The classic hero of shounen manga. Be honest with yourself, you are just used to shounen shit.
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>>133821497
Well, he is MC. But look, his nakama can't get a win and people already loosing their shit over it.
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>>133821511
We were talking about shounen, of course it's a classic shounen hero. I don't know what you're trying to prove here, you're arguing about shounen being bad in a thread of a shounen manga. Owari no Seraph is as shounen as shounen gets with Yuu getting away with everything he wants. You sound like those faggots trying to start wars over which shounen is better, take it elsewhere.
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>>133821656
>Owari no Seraph is as shounen as shounen gets
Apparently it's not if protags aren't winning as you would like them to.
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>>133821465
Except they rarely win even when they employ group tactics. And those tactics are generally based on the assumption that the target in question is fighting alone or just with mooks.

It's not like the humans have to win every battle or even any battle, it's just boring watching the vampires just smile and yawn through every battle while human losses ramp up. There's no tension.
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>>133821399
>always saving Guren's ass
He's saved Guren twice. Once with Mika, and a second time with fucking Crowley (which ended in failure). That's 3-2 in Guren's favor.
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>>133821590
>>133821705
You're changing goalposts now. It looks like your only purpose with this petty argument is to bait people so you can fuck off. This manga is shounenshit whether you like it or not, deal with it.
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>>133821705

You're a retard. Bleach had everyone job to Aizen repeatedly until the main protag pulled through. This is what happens in Owari repeatedly. It's not something unique, it's just that it's getting stale.
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>>133821832
I am perfectly okay with how this manga is going. It's funny how shounen fags just began to panic when hero's nakama can't get easy wins like usual.
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>>133821896
It's anon's first shounen, don't expect too much of him.
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>>133821896
In Bleach shinigami always win. Before they jobbed to Aizen (who is a shinigami too) they have won over the whole Espada.
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>>133821960
Hero's nakama almost never win in shounen on their own. Thanks for confirming you have no fucking idea what you're talking about and never actually watched a shounen before. 4/10 bait, made me respond.
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>>133815684
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Did Crowley even bother to activate his sword?
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>>133822070
>Hero's nakama almost never win in shounen on their own
Except they do.
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>>133822130
Compelling argument filled with evidence, consider yourself filtered.
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>>133822157
I know you have nothing to answer.
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>>133822157

Now you're making your epic trole too obvious...Are OnS threads that boring?
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>>133822126
No but he will next episode.
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>>133822201
>>133822204
This was where you were supposed to post your compelling evidence of various shounen in which hero's nakama defeated a boss on their own without the hero's help to prove me wrong but being the low class shitposters you are, you decided to run away in a pathetic last attempt to save face.
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>>133822204
No, they are usually pretty fun. Not sure what with today's thread.
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>>133822294
In the said Bleach they defeated many enemies on their own, you are a retard.
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>>133822311
Everyone knows posters in these threads are shitters after what happened the other day so they don't even try to hide it anymore.
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>>133822374
>what happened the other day

What do you mean?
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>>133822294

Wait, what? Why would I be posting shounen where hero's friends win against bosses? I thought what made Seraph different from other shounen according to your argument is that everyone jobs to bosses here?
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>>133822419
He means tumblr invasion. But that wasn't the problem. The real problem were retards who started answering to fujos.
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>>133822465

Was it that bad? "Fujos" generally use obvious bait in these threads.
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>>133822552
Yes, it was obvious last time too. They still answered.
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>>133812647
How the fuck does she miss?
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>>133822601

She's dying, I guess?
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>>133822343
Many enemies does not equal to boss and that's not even what was written in the Bleach post.

>>133822461
Because that's what I was replying to. It's your own fault if you replied to a random post without following the chain just to shitpost.

>I thought what made Seraph different from other shounen according to your argument is that everyone jobs to bosses here?
That wasn't me. I'm saying the opposite.
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>>133822630
>Many enemies does not equal to boss and that's not even what was written in the Bleach post
They are not fighting the final boss in Seraph too now.
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>>133822419
The shitposting thread that everyone kept bumping for hours.
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>>133822630

Oh, alright, my bad. We agree then. Owari isn't that unique.
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>>133822673
Changing goalposts again.
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>people are starting to make seraph RP's

i can't wait to make some vampire kek and just kill every human until everyone quits so nobody can have fun
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>>133822465
Was it that bad? I just rememeber one specific thread where OP was way too much into Mika-Yuu pairing, but it died quickly and there wasn't really that much shitposting there.

Is a shame, anyway, OnS threads were really fun and interesting.
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>>133822745
You are indeed a retard. No wonder you can't handle anything that deviates from usual shonen storyline.
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>>133822766

I'm pretty sure humans aren't having fun right now too.
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>>133822601
She wanted him to kill her.
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>>133822712
Exactly, it's a shounen in every form. That other guy is just insecure because he thought he was watching a super special snowflake unique shounen.

>>133822821
Here's your free reply. It's the last one.
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>>133822601
So, I will just assume people are posting here without even watching the episodes, right?
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>>133822788
It was the same, she started thread about their pairing, but it didn't die quickly, it lasted for hours. She even used emoticons and they still replied.
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>act like idiots
>be surprised when everyone acts like an idiot in the following thread
Aren't you entertained? Isn't this why you're here?

>>133689078
It was so bad mods actually deleted it. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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>>133822911

She was probably responding to herself too.
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>>133822926

This faggot is really annoying but I don't dislike him.
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>>133822911
Fuck, didn't know it lasted that long. Sadly seems people here don't know how to ignore bait/shitposting.
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>that smugfag wanting to salvage the thread
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>>133823112
It's not that they don't know how to ignore it. They like to participate in it, that's the problem. Discussion threads need you to save them from page 10 because no one posts in them. But shitposting threads will reach the bump limit if mods don't delete them.
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How can he even do this? It's like grabbing a demon sword by the blade. Unless he has special gloves or something.
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>>133823351
Well demons are former vampires maybe that's why.
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>>133823351
Maybe vampires react to demons' touch differently than humans do.
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>>133823394
But I mean, shouldn't he have lost a hand doing that?

There's no way Yoichi's arrows kill via sheer velocity like physical projectiles do, contact with that projectile should harm him.
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>>133811202
Someone should play it in reverse to make it look like Mika's forcing contraceptives on her.
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>>133819654
He seems to be getting softer.
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>>133823487
>kill via sheer velocity
I think that's exactly how they work because it looks like a bird creature, so the beak impact is probably what hurts, unlike with Shinya's tigers.
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>>133823487
Maybe it wouldn't harm if vampire is more powerful than the demon?
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>>133819643
No thanks.
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>>133820461
Mika's supposed to be crazy strong though thanks to Krul.
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>>133823621
Mika is also seraph himself
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>>133810785
>>133811202
thanks man its I needed this
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>>133823562
I don't buy it, man. The animal visualizations are probably just for effect, I think overall Byakkomaru and Gekkouin are equivalent in effect.

Either way, they're spiritual projectiles that usually one-shot vampires on contact, so it doesn't make sense for Crowley to just be able to pluck one out of the air like they're lead bullets or something.
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>>133823652
Well that too, I have to wonder when he'll release his. Maybe when he sees what Kureto is up to?
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>>133823807
Probably, especially if Kureto will be the main enemy
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>>133823351
Because he's as overpowered as the plot demands.
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>>133823990
Since Mika is "Michael" this will probably turn into a bloodbath.
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>>133823669
It's always a pleasure.
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>>133823351
He does where a different glove on that hand so who knows.
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>>133824118
>wear
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>>133823729
It's just powerlevels. Vampire who is now a demon in Yoichi's weapon was weaker than Crowley, so he can't wound him.
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>>133824174
That suggests there are demon weapons (Black Demon weapons, no less), that are simply ineffective against certain vampires, which is a tough pill to swallow.
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>>133809227
>>133809160
Krul-sama, be cruel to me!
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>>133802400
>i share my birthday with kureto
I am cool yet?
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>>133824295
>>133824174

Furthermore, it doesn't make sense that there would be Black Demon weapons that can't harm Crowley, but lower tier enchanted weapons that can. Like when Crowley demonstrated the lethality of the human mooks' swords last episode.
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>>133824295
It has already been shown ineffective against Crowley, Yoichi hit him, but it made no harm.
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>>133824412
>lethality
He just cut his finger.
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>>133824445
I guess I'm calling bullshit on that, then.
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>>133824499
Why? Some vampires are stronger than others and Crowley is a noble
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>>133824493
Obviously, but the bigger point he was making was that they can do much more than a little cut. His wound would have sealed up immediately otherwise.
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>>133823351
Because Yoichi is fucking weak, weak user = weak weapon, remember when Yu was in Seraph mode? A slash of his sword was able to cut down a city, I bet if Yoichi had this level of strength, his arrows could be nukes.
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>>133824578
>His wound would have sealed up immediately otherwise
Maybe it sealed after a couple of minutes anyway
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>>133824637
Yuu also has a sword with a demon who was Krul's brother.
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>>133824118
>What's this bird-thing?
Are vampires really that ignorant about demon weapons? Tought they have seen them in use before.

>>133823729
Crowley is ridiculous powerful, also as far as we know it may hurt him to hold it, but he just doesn't show it. OnS vampires are supossed to be that calm.
There is an intreview with Mika's VA where he states that the director told everyone playing a vampire to act the fighting scenes like they aren 't doing a small effort at all.
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>>133824637
>Because Yoichi is fucking weak, weak user = weak weapon

If this were true he wouldn't have the weapon to begin with.
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>>133824712
And? Maybe Black Demons are 1st to 3rd progenitors, What I mean is the strength of the weapon depends on the user.
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>>133824766
>Are vampires really that ignorant about demon weapons?
Well, they don't make them
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>>133824766
The vampires that saw them up close are all dead. Probably.
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>>133824834
And what I mean it depends on the demon too.
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>>133824801
Yeah, his demon took over during the contract.
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>>133824892
Well that's a good point.
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>>133817954
Everything is Guren's fault.
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I think you're all forgetting something here. Yoichi's weapon is a black demon series but it's not really that powerful when compared with Yuu's or Kimizuki's. Yoichi's type is like Shinoa's except a bit stronger because the demon is higher ranked, but the principle is the same. It's not really an aggressive type demon.
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>>133825108
I really look forward to his final fight with the vampire who killed sister
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>>133825108
>it's not really that powerful when compared with Yuu's or Kimizuki's

That's not saying much.
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>>133825190
Same here, Lacus isn't winning any sympathy points with me.
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>>133825190
would be nice if vampire will kill Yoichi too.
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>>133825221
Considering that Yuu's and Kimizuki's are on the same level of Guren's and Kureto's, I'd say that it's saying a bit.
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>>133825270
Exactly. Just because a weapon isn't overflowing with power like Ashuramaru and especially Mahiru-no-You, doesn't mean it isn't more than capable of easily killing vampires.

It's like saying an assault rifle isn't as effective at killing humans as a gatling gun is. Maybe not, but it'll still kill just fine.
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