Chapter 54 Thread - Waiting for MS.
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Seems like we get some kind of Kaneki Vs. Eto next chapter while the Noro fight is (hopefully) over. Ui really is getting nothing in this arc.
Following that line of thought, Tsukiyamas kick hit him in a similar position.
> Noro: "I'll be going first, Eto." as Urie deals the final strike.
More extreme kagune control and weird shapes in this chapter.
So, when Eto was saying "That's it" was she talking about Kanae doing a good job, or Kaneki getting hit hard enough to jog his memories? What the fuck is Eto trying to accomplish here and why bother using Kanae in the first place if she had no chance of killing Kaneki at full power? Does she just want to have fun and underestimated how pissed off Kaneki with memories would be? He doesn't seem to be laughing at her joke.
Considering that even Eto's kakuja has been fairly constant, I hope Kaneki's centipede mode stays as a centipede instead of going full power of imagination.
This stuff is fun occasionally, but a more constant kagune shape makes fights clearer.
Both, Kanae was doing a good job by bringing out Kaneki.
Note the <3
Eto is the one-eyed king and you faggots can't deny it anymore
So we'll never see Noro's face? I don't want Noro to die now. There are still so many mysteries regarding him.
Also we see Noro in action for the first time in this arc after TG ended and now Ishida decides to kill him off just like that?
>Shirazu: An opening!! I leave this to you, Urie!
We already confirmed that souta is OEK
Just look at the joker
Aogiri is never going to be the same without Noro. I'm genuinely sad.
This place has finally showed its true colors. Right now we are edge incarnate.
This is why nobody likes us, and also the reason why TG is seen as le edgy manga.
Good job guys.
Such tiny pic. Furuta is the hidden Joker all along, I wonder how strong he is.
Are you really this fucking stupid?
Tatara is from China. He has connections to Houji, who destroyed the ghoul group Chi She Lian which Tatara used to be a member of.
If you're just gonna speed read then fuck off.
Perhaps Shirazu managed to damage Noro's kakuhou? We see in the double-page spread Shirazu's kagune exploding at 7 points in the 4th to the last panel. So maybe he penetrated Noro's fleshy kagune body deeply enough to puncture his true body and damage his kakuhou?
Upright Justice Tarot Card Meanings
Put simply, the Justice card represents justice, fairness, truth and the law. As an outcome, the Justice card indicates that the fairest decision will be made. You are being called to account for your actions and be judged accordingly. Notice that Justice’s scales are balanced, thus its appearance indicates that events have worked out as they were meant to work out and that what is happening to you comes from the decisions you have made and the actions you have taken in the past. You have what you deserve.
>Justice is ruled by Libra and the card number is 11. The figure of Justice sits in her chair, cloaked in red and holding a SWORD in her right
That sure is true, but it has little relation and doesn't prove what you stated before. If we use your logic, I can say that the moon is made of cheese because it has holes un it.
Again, nice headcannon.
Doesn't matter who thec leader is. If the leader dies, two more take its place. Aogiri is like a Hydra. It has all the resources it so needs and has no center core to kill. Each ghoul is enough to start their own faction under the banner of Aogiri.
so he remembers that piece of memory. does this mean he remembers everything? like getting killed by arima, yoshimura's being missing. his relationship with ccg will be interesting in the coming chapters.
It's just a stupid buzzword thrown around at anything that isn't pure moeshit or "MUH NAKAMA POWER" shonen fight manga in the place of an actual, logical argument as to why something is bad.
It literally has become a buzzword. It's used to call something bad without an actual explanation.
Actually. Yoshimura put her under someone's care and told him/her that, when the time came, he or she should teach Eto about her mother's diary and origins.
We don't know who was Yoshimura's most trust friend though.
Right? Considering how little Eto looks like an owl now, I wonder if this is a part of Kaneki's own progression? Eto's got that whole mouth thing going on, so maybe Kaneki's kagune will look more bone-like?
Tsukiyama dies in exchange for Kanae's life.
Kaneki agrees, but rapes Kanae in front of Tsukiyama while Eto holds Tsukiyama before she bites his arm off.
I can already see the edge!
If a character doesn't show any sort of compassion he's pure edge in this place.
It's pointless to argue with these people. Kaneki had a shit life, he has more than enough reason to be violent.
mfw Kanekifags are this fucking edgy
It's still a buzzword. It's literally saying "x is edgy.".
So what? It's bad. Then explain what about that makes it bad?
It's just a substitute for an actual explanation.
The fact that you're mindlessly slinging around insults in response just proves my point that you really can't come with an actual criticism, and instead just resort to "hurr durr its edgy".
Nigga, I'm only going to take people with actual intelligent arguments serious. Not just buzzword-spewing teenagers who are too cool for stuff, all while jumping on bandwagons.
Chapters like this one are the worst for actual discussions. Kanekifags, Tumblrinas and edgelords will just derail the thread and any discussing with their /v/-tier shitposting.
It's pointless anyway, because anyone who actually uses edgy as a substitute for an actual piece of criticism or argument is too stupid to realize exactly why throwing buzzwords around is lazy and boredom-inducing, even someone were to hit them with the facts.
It's like arguing to a brick wall. A cancerous 12 year old buzzword-spewing brick wall who should leave immediately, but I digress.
I don't even like Tsukiyama but the kill count in this arc is already ridiculous. No need to add another.
"Wanting to kill yourself" and "Wanting to die" are two entirely different things.
Kaneki wants to die, not commit suicide. Also, he wants to die in a way that people will remember.
Not nearly as edgy as Eto is.
>hurr I make that whore die infront of the man she loves for no reason
>hurr I make Haise into Kaneki again for no reason
>hurr I steal the hearts of many autist online by being hot for no reason
>hurr I let Noro die just to job to a bunch of jobbers so that I can have my playtime
My opinion? It was as if Quentin Tarantino directed this.
Tsukiyama is all serious and Kanae is broken the fuck up like thirty niggas just went out on the poor woman and Kaneki is all serious mood now and Tsyukima is all like.
>We cool now? Between you and me?
And Kaneki is all like.
There's no you and "me".
This never happened.
But we are cool.
Pick your bitch up.
Holy shit this tread is full of metastases. It's to late for cure, only palliative treatment is left.
- Furuta is Souta and maybe the one-eyed mastermind
- Tsukiyama and the Qs aren't dead, Noro is
- MC is awakened (and regained his memories), so he's neither old repressed Kaneki, nor self-deluding Haise; it doesn't matter how he calls himself from now on.
Unless Shirazu broke all the way through to frame 5, he'll still be just like Urie.
If the Chinabro who was translating some of the lines could help us out here to make this clear?
I think it's fairly clear after last week that Haise really was just Kaneki trying to play at being normal again. But that's over. Despair has done it's job, Kaneki is back to being Kaneki, or wanting to be Kaneki, or whatever you want to call it.
Are faggots really saying that Kaneki isn't edgy? Yes, most of the times it's a buzzword but it's so obvious that in TG the edge is real but that doesn't mean it's something bad. Ishida isn't even trying to hide it:
Yes but it would've been nice to know at least some of his backrounds. The guy was one of the biggest mysteries in Aogiri. Now I know how Hairufags felt a couple chapters ago.
Edgy is usually a buzzword that has negative connotations. For instance, Akame ga Kill is shit for a big part because it's edgy.
Edgy is a negative buzzword by now. If you call something edgy, it's a lazy buzzword for calling something bad.
So no, Tokyo Ghoul is not edgy, because it isn't bad, and neither does its so-called "edginess" make bad/any worse.
You can use any buzzword you want. But people, me included, will laugh at you for it or ignore you for it because it's just a lazy dismissal.
It's not an argument, it's not amusing. It's just calling something bad without an actual argument.
>Kaneki brings his kakuja out
>Kills homo prince, Noros, butchers the Qs and what's left of CCG
>Almost kills Ui
>Beats Eto away
>Finally goes after Aogiri, kills Kanou, Orca, Tatara and all the trash
Make it happen Ishida, I want him to kill everyone.
In order to be "edgy" the characters attitude/worldview has to be unjustified. As in "I haven't really experienced enough to make me think and act so horribly as a person, but I'm going to do it anyway because that's how I think the world works anyway".
Kaneki has experienced /more/ than enough to justify his twisted personality.
He's not edgy, he's unfortunate.
Something can also be edgy if it handles its dark themes inconsistently, like when someone could have just been done torturing another creature to death, and within a few panels, they crack jokes with another guy and laugh their asses off in the most moe manner.
Akame ga Edge was very guilty of this.
Maneki finally makes his main canon appearance?
Though pic related reminds me most of the face he makes in
Kanae beats Sasaki repeatedly. “I will be loved, I will be loved, I will be loved!”
The next moment, Kanae’s left arm is cut of and flies up into the air.
Eto, who is watching from above, catches it and giggles. Kanae screams. Tsukiyama hears this from a distance and says Kanae’s name in worry.
Kanae is on their knees and Sasaki holds them down with his right arm. Kanae’s kagune is repairing their missing arm. Sasaki’s hair has turned all black, and he is Kaneki again. Kaneki uses his kagune instead of his missing arm to grab a steel pipe. “Shuddup!” he yells, and stabs Kanae though the eye. Kanae screams and jumps back to avoid Kaneki’s attack. They aim to attack Kaneki with their kagune, but Kaneki is not where they thought he was. “He’s not…” Kanae is grabbed by Kaneki’s kagune and stabbed through the abdomen.
Kaneki stands in front of Tsukiyama, who is propped up against a wall. “Who are you?” Tsukiyama asks. Kaneki looks down on him coldly.
He suddenly remembers what Nico told him a long time ago: “The One-Eyed-King is…”
“………………. Tsukiyama-san” says Kaneki, before stabbing him through the middle of his chest with his kagune and leaving. Tsukiyama vomits blood.
Eto appears in owl form in front of Kaneki.
Shirazu runs and attacks Noro, or Noro’s kagune. He runs along and attacks while avoiding being eaten. He has decided to defeat Noro even if it kills him. “Attack, attack, attack, attack,” and his kagune strains against the frame.
Saiko is watching him, crying. Urie wakes up and sees Shirazu attacking Noro.
“I will kill this monster!” thinks Shirazu. He lands an attack on Noro, but it’s not very effective. He sees that Urie is awake. “I created an opening, now the rest is up to you!” he yells at Urie.
Urie watches and thinks “Shirazu, Shirazu, don’t die! Shirazu!!”
Noro says something, and the next moment, is struck down by Urie’s kagune.
Are you people SERIOUSLY discussing edge? Can't you see that the word "edge" only shows up in shitposting?
Nobody uses edge outside of shitposting, and nobody cares because we just ignore most of it. You tumblrinas should lurk a bit more before flooding our threads with nonsensical discussions.
You are practically doing exactly what you wrote just now while insulting me. So as I said IF anyone is assblasted that must be you who is projecting. Just stop posting and you may calm down.
>You are practically doing exactly what you wrote just now while insulting me
And it wasn't the whole point? Just fucking relax, everyone is insulting each-other here everyday.
I'm very sleepy and I don't use a filter (I never need one) but you're right.
My tolerance is lower the closer I get to exhaustion, woops.
>Seriously eat this shitty 'Edgy' bait
>Faggot went full retard with it but try to act cool.
Fucking Stop it.
All you guys have to do is just ignor the shit poster and discuss the story.
He suddenly remembers what Nico told him a long time ago: “The One-Eyed-King is… the small one wrapped in bandages.”
Eto, in owl form mutters “Love love, like like”.
“… Ah, Tsukiyama-san” says Kaneki, before stabbing him through the middle of his chest with his kagune. “It doesn’t matter who I am.” Tsukiyama vomits blood.
Kaneki turns his back on Tsukiyama, and addresses Eto. “Thank you. Thanks to you I just had a dramatic awakening. I wonder, are you stronger than Special Class Arima Kishou?”
It got updated.
> "… Ah, Tsukiyama-san” says Kaneki, before stabbing him through the middle of his chest with his kagune. “It doesn’t matter who I am.” Tsukiyama vomits blood.
>I wonder, are you stronger than Special Class Arima Kishou.
...Here it comes.
Pic related really reminds me of a shot of white Kaneki I've seen before, but I can't quite place it.
Might be manga, but might just be Ishida's art.
Tokyo Ghoul :re Chapter 54 Spoilers
*Omg this chapter… Translation could be wrong like whos talking or whos stabbing. Off to watch Digimon tri, while thinking what happened to this chapter!*
Kanae punches Kaneki
Kanae: I want to be loved! I want to be loved! I want!!
Kanae’s right hand got sliced!
Eto: Eeh eeh
Kaneki is grabbing onto Kanae’s head. His right arm regenerates and grabs a metal pole
Kaneki: Shut up
Kaneki stabs Kanae’s left eye with the metal pole
Kanae: !!~~~~~~~!! Ahh!!!!!!
Kaneki continues attacking Kanae
Kanae: Ahhhhhhhhh!! Ahhhhhhh~~~~
Kanae shouts while evading Kaneki’s attack
Kanae: He is not here…
At that instant, Kaneki stabs Kanae’s stomach from behind
Tsukiyama: ……Are you?
Nico: Kaneki kun, the one eyed king is….. (perhaps the bandage)
Kaneki: …….Tsukiyama san
Tsukiyama got stabbed on the chest by Kaneki(?)
Tsukiyama: Gahh!! *vomits blood*
Eto: Its okay. Thanks for the pitiful show. Well then, who is stronger between you and Arima Kishou.
Kaneki: The pitiful one is you, go and die
Shirazu facing Noro…
Shirazu: (If I dont do it, everyone will die…!)
Shirazu: (Kuramoto sensei… Kuroiwa… Urie… Mutsuki… and Saiko)
Shirazu: I will not die and leave Haru behind!! Ahhhh!!!
Shirazu: (Attack attack attack attack attack attack attack! Attack non stop-)
Urie: …… (……Shirazu…) *gets up*
Shirazu: (Die- Monster!!!!)
Shirazu: Urie!! There is an opening!! I will leave it to you!!
Urie opens his eyes widely and run towards Noro
Urie: (Shirazu. Shirazu. Shirazu. Dont die. Dont die!! Shirazu!!!)
Urie delivers the final blow to Noro
Noro: …..I will be going first, Eto–
A complete mental breakdown doesn't always make a character a villain.
He might calm down or he might continue.
In the story so far none of the surviving ghouls and only a few investigators could be considered morally "good". So Kaneki going on a suicidal killing spree would make him closer to normal for the series.
>Eto: Its okay. Thanks for the pitiful show. Well then, who is stronger between you and Arima Kishou.
>Kaneki: The pitiful one is you, go and die
B-but they were supposed to fuck! /a/ told me so!
Or is this just tsundere Kaneki?
Its quite funny this discussion around kaneki being edgy. Because Kaneki quite literally became the real definition of edgy last chapter
>lets do cool dark stuff and get an awesome death!
>just like my chinese tragic books!
Kaneki is very visibly flawed, and that's what makes him interesting. He's not a good guy, not a bad guy.
Seriously, the fact that he's neither good nor inherently bad is what makes him fun.
But that's what made it cool, he's a deconstruction of the shounen protag who sacrifices himself to protect his friends.
Just like in the books that kept him from being lonely as a child.
Even when he's doing things for others, it's for explicitly selfish reasons. It all comes down to his fear of being alone, really.
Yet you (well, I do at least) still find him a likeable character.
People can be fucking retard.
Because he is flawed that way, he is more relatable, and therefore more interesting.
Compare that to good guy shonen protagonists that are just forgiving to a fault, and unrealistically so, and it makes sense that Kaneki is more interesting than them.
He's more realistic - as a person.
He managed to not do anything bad for the run of Tokyo Ghoul except kill Hide in a breakdown and injure Amon and Banjou.
Only thing morally questionable about him was him trying to save ghouls which were also his friends, who wanted to live peacefully.
Exactly. Especially as shounens go on, the protagonists usually end up become all loving messiah heroes and its really boring and overdone.
TV tropes has a page about it called "Messiah Creep"
I agree. I only liked seeing her fighting, but since we got Ayato, it doesn't matter anymore.
She's a very simple character that started to get some sort of development during the Tsukiyama arc, but after that it just got to a point where we could easily tell what she was going to do.
Seriously how do people always forget this?
Also, he tortured a 14-year old boy, and not to mention what else he might have done in the 6-month time skip to earn his reputation.
>He murdered and devoured an entire restaurant
That captured and tortured people before eating them. I don't consider that bad.
>threatened to torture multiple people.
People involved with Aogiri and human slavery in order to get to a mad doctor.
That's not even all of it, he was completely crazy, and not only as kakuja. He ate everything inside Kanou's lab, and even tried to eat Sachi.
His rap gang also mentioned that he was hunting ghouls and eating them. Any sort of moral sense he had was towards his friends and humans.
Kaneki's 19's birthday was the day he escaped from Yamori.
He was 18 at the start of TG
To grow so notorious and feared in a community of people that has to devour humans to live and loves inflicting as much pain as possible before they die in just a few months, he must have done a lot of fucked up shit.
Just remember when Haise put on the Kaneki mask and tried to find some ghouls to talk to.
> Noro is actually fucking dead
> Killed by Urie and Shirazu
What big name Ghoul will be defeated by the mighty Quinx Squad next?
Hey, freedom's a breddy gud birthday present. :DDD
>Also, he tortured a 14-year old boy, and not to mention what else he might have done in the 6-month time skip to earn his reputation.
Kid was going on killing sprees, almost killed his sister, and had been torturing those weaker than him for fun.
It was Kaneki's way of punishing him without killing him.
He was going around killing ghouls can't call that morally wrong.
Oh yeah, but still, torturing a 14 year old sounds pretty terrible when you put it like that.
The ghoul restraunt murder? Read chapter 84/85
At this rate, Kaneki and his Quinx squad will literally become the second Arima and his Squad 0.
Holy shit, pic related could be true after all.
>To grow so notorious and feared in a community of people that has to devour humans to live and loves inflicting as much pain as possible before they die in just a few months, he must have done a lot of fucked up shit.
The 6th ward ghouls were upset about him killing off the ghoul restaurant.
Eto(Sen Takatsuki) was 24 when Kaneki was 19
No no i meant he torturing a 14 year-old boy, but it seems that that boy was Ayato, come on he was about to kill his sister Kaneki did nothing wrong...
They are trying to make Kaneki some kind of morally grey character, but until now he was
He shot at her with his kagune when she was on the ground when kaneki stepped in.
But for what purpose
I shit my pants if something like this ever happens.
I start to know the reason people always make fun of Kanekifag.
>I can accept whatever h's done
>Kaneki's not being a messiah shounen type just make him more likeable
>People complaint about him
>B-but he dindu nuffin wrong.
With this kind of response and reaction, of course, people will make fun of them.
My american yaois already told me he wanted to penetrate Tsukiyama.
In all seriousness, I don't know. The white haired Kaneki in Haise's mind wanted to stop Haise from killing Tsukiyama.
We don't know much about this new, current "Kaneki" and his motives.
Maybe he wanted to put on a show for Eto and prove himself?
Are you sure those aren't just two different types of Kanekifags?
I'm a huge Kanekifag, and the fact that he's not the typical shounen messiah archetype, but I'd never say he didn't do anything wrong. People defending some of his crueler actions, that are just missing the point and his character development entirely.
>Yomo, Uta and Tsukiyama had trouble with Noro and now the Qs supposedly beat him.
They really didn't, they beat the shit out of him with only Tsukiyama using his kagune were surprised by his regeneration then let him leave.
Shit is going to happen, maybe a fight against eto or the CCG (maybe along with Arima, but not Ui) getting to the place where theguywithblackhair is. So stabbing Tsukiyama and leaving him unconscious, might not be a bad idea to ""protect"" him from all that stuff.
This chapter was kind of boring because it was fairly predictable. Kaneki goes nuts, edges around, Kanae gets rekt etc I'm not even surprised the Quinx beat Noro.
I'm looking forward to seeing what will be the aftermath of the battle, that will be the interesting part.
>Eto, in owl form mutters “Love love, like like”.
So Eto is either in love, or she wants a worthy mate.
Would they show Kaneki sexually assaulting Eto in Young Jump? I mean, I know YJ is seinen, but it's still Jump and present day Jump has no spine whatsoever.
I have no idea what the bottom left panel is supposed to be even if I look at the whole page.
Is it Eto's kakuja's chin and tongue? Why are they showing that, then?
I know, I was there for the 1400 Shield Knight translation thread and the who knows how many reply AgK threads too, but those were special and had a lot of readers.
Fuck, then there's still a chance that Kaneki might beat her, pull her out and bend her over the broken shell of her kakuja armor.
So Kaneki is powerleveling now, right? No more protectfag "I cri evry nite" bullshit, this is Kaneki wanting to be strongest, most vicious and powerful motherfucker around and then go out with a blast, right?
There's only place for one edgelord in the squad though, so he's either going to put Urie in his place, or just act as Haise until he takes care of what he wants to take care of.
I'll be honest, I will be very disappointed if Kaneki doesn't care about Hinami anymore.
>fuck, then there's still a chance that Kaneki might beat her, pull her out and bend her over the broken shell of her kakuja armor.
Whatever helps you sleep at night but this isn't happening
>So Kaneki is powerleveling now, right? No more protectfag "I cri evry nite" bullshit, this is Kaneki wanting to be strongest, most vicious and powerful motherfucker around and then go out with a blast, right?
What on earth gave you that impression?
He's still the same self-destructive Kaneki who just wants everyone to love him as he kills himself.
'Stabs sword with sword' was almost used, but I felt he needed something more personal for his big comeback
Kaneki is perfectly calm. Haven't you noticed how he defines himself by others' expectations and impressions? This is what a sociopath does, he observes and repeats and imitates human behavior. When that shell comes off they are uncaring, ruthless and selfish.
This is Kaneki no longer pretending to care.
>I'll be honest, I will be very disappointed if Kaneki doesn't care about Hinami anymore.
why the hell wouldn't he? He probably attacked shuu to take him out and force him to remain there and wait, not to kill him.
>I'll be honest, I will be very disappointed if Kaneki doesn't care about Hinami anymore.
I don't think this Kaneki is here to stay for long.
Or if he is, he'll "calm down" considerably by the end of this arc.
He was crazy, but his hunting and killing ghouls wasn't indiscriminate and Shachi was part of Aogiri.
>Any sort of moral sense he had was towards his friends and humans.
I guess the real question on Kaneki's morality would be if killing ghouls is wrong, but if count the side material he had Chie doing research on ghouls.
I don't know if he treated any of them like he did Yamori, but the only thing that could be considered grey would be how he carried out the killing.