Did you know drinking bleach can whiten your teeth?
It's my second favorite show though. Is that good enough?
Not my favorite, but its up there, everyone should at least give it a shot.
>i can see ikuhara's influence in modern anime more than anno's
Yeah, definitely. I didn't even like the show that much, but in terms of style it was definitely incredibly influential.
Because another show aired in the same year
Because this is
I hold to the fact that everybody was delightful
>Implying it isn't
Nanami best girl Black Rose Arc best arc The Prince that Runs in the Night best episode
Too repetitive. It got annoying after a while. Also the monkey was awful. The movie was better.
>less and less hand painted cells
>it's all done by computer today
Why even live...
If you watch the director commentary of the film, it's basically just Ikuhara going
>we did this shot with the computer
every other sentence. It surprised me, honestly, as the film doesn't look like it was digitally made at all.
That commentary is fucking gold, you honestly can't tell when he is trolling or for real.
>The zipper sound of the Utena and Anthy bed scene was put in by a sound guy as a joke and we just kept in.
>Oh, and the ending was nice.
It is literally the most amazing climax to anything I've even seen in my life.
>LESBIAN CAR CHASE >LEADING TO AN EXPLOSION OF ROSE >AND A MAKE OUT SESSION ON THE TOP OF THE WRECKAGE OF THE CAR AS IT STILL RACES TO THE END OF THE WORLD
I think the movie stripped away all the depth of the characters that I loved about the series. Definitely not as perfect as the anime, but still
>gorgeous as fuck
>anthy and utena are equals
>best transformation scene in anime history
>It surprised me, honestly, as the film doesn't look like it was digitally made at all.
Some parts of it weren't, I know in one of the info books one of the artists said they painted on panels of glass and slid them around to make it look like the background buildings were moving
It really was too deep for me. I only watched it a few months ago, and I liked the style, but I didn't and still don't get what was supposed to be so deep about it. From my perspective it looked like a lot of reasonably typical shoujo stories wrapped into a framing device that isn't all that relevant to those stories or at all. Then at the end the story they've been hinting at finally kicks in, everything takes a darker tone and they start talking about subjectivism and perspective after which the show ends.
I guess I can see why people find the last few episodes deep, but the link to the earlier, cliche ridden episodes is mostly obscure to me. If someone is willing to help me get it, that'd be much appreciated. Right now I feel like I understand what I saw, which wasn't particularly complex, but not what other people apparently saw.
How did Anthy and Akio's relationship get so fucked that they started to fuck?
She's as guilty as anyone else in the series. I don't think people really understand that. She was playing along with Akio's game up until the end because he made her feel like a prince.
It has various meanings.
First, a character trait. Miki is a kid genious and the first time we see him with the stopwatch he is using it to measure his speed while doing a test. I honestly don't know why people ignore this basic thing.
Second, it represnts how fucked time is in the school.
Third, it represent his obsession with the pass, he feels time is constantly slipping through his hand and wants to return to a young more innocent time of his life.
It is far and away my favourite anime for reasons that I don't fully understand.
If I am ever feeling down sometimes I go back and watch the OP to convince myself that life is worth fighting for.
But it's impossible to talk about it with other people without them having shitty opinions about it, so I just keep my love for it close to the heart and cruise through life with it.
So in the end was it Professor Nemuro that set the fire? I get his role as a character but the backstory was a bit confusing towards the end.
Or is the entire point supposed to be that Akio screwed with his memories so much that we aren't actually supposed to know what happened in the past?
recycled animation. I also never really understood the import of the visual metaphors. Like, OK, they're going down an elevator, it represents a descent into subconscious motivations; I still don't know why I should care about the characters.
Because that's what avant-garde does. Symbolism is unreliable and fickle, because the nature of reality itself is illusive. Since Avant-Garde actually seeks a lesson from it, you get a conclusive ending, which postmodern art would not grant you. At no point does it go full metaphorical like Penguindrum, and that's good, because it keeps the fucking plot together. But that does not at all mean that the core plot line is what you are assumed to be watching the show for.
It represents several other things. "Ascension" and "Descent" have different meanings than just the psychological ones. The trick compared to something like Eva, where you can safely ignore the context and only pursue the psychology of the character, is that in here both is tailored to make sense, and you should have pursued both to get the whole picture.
The fact that Nemuro Memorial Hall and Akio's Room are the same room while one is above and the other is a deliberate commentary.
See, I actually preferred Penguindrum quite a bit over Utena, because I felt like I was invested in the outcomes of the characters. That the plot was horribly elaborate and obscure didn't even really bother me because it did a good job at establishing the central conflicts as very sympathetic, and the basic emotive string of the fragility of Himari and their home life felt like it ran through and vitalized everything else the show did.
With Utena everybody felt like cardboard, and all of the potentially interesting character work felt like it was made inaccessible by being conveyed purely through visual metaphors or subtext.
Regarding the elevator thing, I assume you mean the moral element as well? Again, it's pretty obvious when the show wants to tell you that characters are being corrupted, and their basic motivations are being exploited, and they're being manipulated; it's all conveyed very distinctly with its symbolism. But there's never any moments of humanization, where the characters aren't acting like art pieces, or maybe just not enough for me.
I should rewatch it sometime though, I know I didn't really get it the first time.
also stuff like Miki's stopwatch; it's obvious that there's no actual purpose or meaning to it, but it's constantly framed as if to emphasize its significance. Maybe I just don't understand the aesthetic thesis things like that were meant to imply.
If we're going actually meta, the stopwatch is not just a framing device, he presses it to make it apparent an important plot point has come to its conclusion every time. That's why it surprises him a few times.
It's the same thing as the scene slides on SHAFT shows.
Honestly I think he's just a nerd who was measuring out their council meetings.
You'll note that he usually stops it when they reach a connclusion or they get to the point of their meetings
What was the point of the Black Rose arc?