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Why isn't this your favorite show?

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>>133765116
Who told you that?
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>>133765116
>tumblr filename
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>>133765116
Stop doing this
Fucking Utena can't get good threads ever
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>>133765116
Because Utena-sama is not pure anymore
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Its boring.
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>>133765508
this
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>>133765116
It's too old and looks like shit
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>tumblr
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>NTR
>She turns into a car
There, now no one has to watch the show.
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>>133765116
>tumblr
Did you know drinking bleach can whiten your teeth?
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>>133765116
>tumblr
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>>133765508
>>133765591
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>>133765860
Female Utena fans scare me.
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>>133765116
It's my second favorite show though. Is that good enough?
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>>133766148
>fans
this is from manga autor
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Not my favorite, but its up there, everyone should at least give it a shot.
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>>133766230
>>133766230
But in all over internet the female utena fans always so fierce. Especially when it comes to feminism
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>>133765508
Yeah this
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>>133765860
Although I wouldn't quite phrase it that way, I have to admit, the feelings are pretty much mutual about that episode.
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Too much filler
Too much stock footage
Too deep for me
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>>133769083
>implying a single moment in the show was filler
2deep4u indeed
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honestly i feel like utena changed anime more than evangelion,i can see ikuhara's influence in modern anime more than anno's
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>>133769315
it was revolutionary
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>>133765116
There were great things about this show, but those middle parts were a real slog.
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>>133769001
Akio was the first character I've ever hated.
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The show is painfully monotonous to watch if you're not attempting to analyze every scene.
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>>133769639
You don't have to analyze it to enjoy it.

At the very least you just don't have to be a total idiot.
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>tumblr
>*sigh*
>*googles picture*
>utena sword? hm interesting
>jk 70s show

gay
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>>133769315
Agreed
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>>133765116

Because it is my second favourite. Behind LOGH.

Second comes straight after first right?
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>>133766230
She is a manga autor but an Utena fan.
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>>133765116
>used goods
>edgy hipster 2deep6me shit show
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>>133765116
Why is Utena allowed to get away with being pretentious?
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It's just a generic episodic filler show. There was like 3 episodes of actual content on start and the end. I'm not sure why people try to deny this.
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>>133774481
Just like Darker than Black.
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>>133773780
>>133774481
Sweet memes anons.
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>>133765116
It's been in my backlog for a long time now, that's probably why.
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>>133766582

Never seen the show but I can tell she's best girl
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>>133775244

Dubs confirm
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It didn't get good until like 33 episodes in.
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>>133769315
>i can see ikuhara's influence in modern anime more than anno's
Yeah, definitely. I didn't even like the show that much, but in terms of style it was definitely incredibly influential.
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>>133775578
>plotbabby
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>>133769163
>defending the curry episode
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>>133775759
What did it influence?
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>>133775986
Akiyuki Shinbo, for example.
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>>133776030
That guy was influenced by Dezaki. Nobuyuki Takeuchi is the one who was influenced by Ikuhara.
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Literal lolcow.
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>>133765116
Because another show aired in the same year
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Because this is
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>>133776854
>1997
>Same Year
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>>133776981
Eva was 95-96

Utena was 96-97
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>>133776895
Mint is still the best.
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>>133777116
I hold to the fact that everybody was delightful
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>>133777075
Manga was 96, Anime 97.
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>>133765116
>Implying it isn't
Nanami best girl
Black Rose Arc best arc
The Prince that Runs in the Night best episode
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>>133777881
Nanami worst girl
Apocalypse best arc
39 best episode
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>>133765116
Too repetitive. It got annoying after a while. Also the monkey was awful. The movie was better.
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>>133766582
Worst girl.
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>>133778270
>less and less hand painted cells
>it's all done by computer today

Why even live...
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>>133778398
If you watch the director commentary of the film, it's basically just Ikuhara going
>we did this shot with the computer
every other sentence. It surprised me, honestly, as the film doesn't look like it was digitally made at all.
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>>133778270
The movie was just pretty visuals. Oh, and the ending was nice.
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>>133778485
That commentary is fucking gold, you honestly can't tell when he is trolling or for real.
>The zipper sound of the Utena and Anthy bed scene was put in by a sound guy as a joke and we just kept in.

>>133778526
>Oh, and the ending was nice.
>nice
It is literally the most amazing climax to anything I've even seen in my life.
>LESBIAN CAR CHASE
>LEADING TO AN EXPLOSION OF ROSE
>AND A MAKE OUT SESSION ON THE TOP OF THE WRECKAGE OF THE CAR AS IT STILL RACES TO THE END OF THE WORLD
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>>133765116

It was too pink for my tatses
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>>133769083
>Too much stock footage
b-but that's just Ikuhara's style
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>>133778270
I think the movie stripped away all the depth of the characters that I loved about the series. Definitely not as perfect as the anime, but still

>gorgeous as fuck
>anthy and utena are equals
>best transformation scene in anime history
>THAT ENDING
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>>133778644
It's really one of a kind.
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It is my favorite show. People don't understand the Subtleties. It's literally too deep for them.
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>>133765116
I hate Akio, Anthy and her monkey, it also annoys me greatly that Utena was so dumb to be deceive by them.
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>>133765116
It was overhyped and boring.
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>>133779092
Bad taste.
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>>133778485
>It surprised me, honestly, as the film doesn't look like it was digitally made at all.
Some parts of it weren't, I know in one of the info books one of the artists said they painted on panels of glass and slid them around to make it look like the background buildings were moving
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>>133778870
It really was too deep for me. I only watched it a few months ago, and I liked the style, but I didn't and still don't get what was supposed to be so deep about it. From my perspective it looked like a lot of reasonably typical shoujo stories wrapped into a framing device that isn't all that relevant to those stories or at all. Then at the end the story they've been hinting at finally kicks in, everything takes a darker tone and they start talking about subjectivism and perspective after which the show ends.
I guess I can see why people find the last few episodes deep, but the link to the earlier, cliche ridden episodes is mostly obscure to me. If someone is willing to help me get it, that'd be much appreciated. Right now I feel like I understand what I saw, which wasn't particularly complex, but not what other people apparently saw.
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How did Anthy and Akio's relationship get so fucked that they started to fuck?
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>>133779318
plotfags, everyone
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>>133779092

She's as guilty as anyone else in the series. I don't think people really understand that. She was playing along with Akio's game up until the end because he made her feel like a prince.
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>>133779350
They were God-like beings so I imagine they had a Greek Gods relationship, even before Dios became Akio, but it only went beyond platonic after he "fell"
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>>133779386
You, explain to me the significance of Miki's stopwatch thing. Right now.
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>>133779318
It's best to look in the archives for a coherent answer. The series has been discussed to death.
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>>133779511
He's timing the length it takes to no-hands orgasm while imagining Touga stripping on a piano.
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>>133779511
It has various meanings.
First, a character trait. Miki is a kid genious and the first time we see him with the stopwatch he is using it to measure his speed while doing a test. I honestly don't know why people ignore this basic thing.
Second, it represnts how fucked time is in the school.
Third, it represent his obsession with the pass, he feels time is constantly slipping through his hand and wants to return to a young more innocent time of his life.
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>>133765116
It is far and away my favourite anime for reasons that I don't fully understand.
If I am ever feeling down sometimes I go back and watch the OP to convince myself that life is worth fighting for.
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>>133769163
wasn't there an entire recap episode that had less than a minute of original footage?
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>>133779730
Me too.
I don't know exactly why I've obsessed over it so much but it is just spell-binding.
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>>133780287
Not him but I enjoy it so much that I've rewatched it 7 times already.
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>>133765279
>being a faggot
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swords = penises
So everyone is actually a gay man, flapping dicks together.
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It is.

But it's impossible to talk about it with other people without them having shitty opinions about it, so I just keep my love for it close to the heart and cruise through life with it.
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>>133780385
>/co/ image reaction
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ZETTAI
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So in the end was it Professor Nemuro that set the fire? I get his role as a character but the backstory was a bit confusing towards the end.

Or is the entire point supposed to be that Akio screwed with his memories so much that we aren't actually supposed to know what happened in the past?
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>>133779318
They have been talking about subjectivism and perspective and more since episode 13. You just didn't notice and read it as silly banter.
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>>133780385
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>>133780964
>those artifacts
>1100x964
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>>133765116
recycled animation. I also never really understood the import of the visual metaphors. Like, OK, they're going down an elevator, it represents a descent into subconscious motivations; I still don't know why I should care about the characters.
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>>133781022
Because that's what avant-garde does. Symbolism is unreliable and fickle, because the nature of reality itself is illusive. Since Avant-Garde actually seeks a lesson from it, you get a conclusive ending, which postmodern art would not grant you. At no point does it go full metaphorical like Penguindrum, and that's good, because it keeps the fucking plot together. But that does not at all mean that the core plot line is what you are assumed to be watching the show for.

It represents several other things. "Ascension" and "Descent" have different meanings than just the psychological ones. The trick compared to something like Eva, where you can safely ignore the context and only pursue the psychology of the character, is that in here both is tailored to make sense, and you should have pursued both to get the whole picture.

The fact that Nemuro Memorial Hall and Akio's Room are the same room while one is above and the other is a deliberate commentary.
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>>133781022
Because they're engaging?
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>>133780908
UNMEI
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>>133781224
See, I actually preferred Penguindrum quite a bit over Utena, because I felt like I was invested in the outcomes of the characters. That the plot was horribly elaborate and obscure didn't even really bother me because it did a good job at establishing the central conflicts as very sympathetic, and the basic emotive string of the fragility of Himari and their home life felt like it ran through and vitalized everything else the show did.

With Utena everybody felt like cardboard, and all of the potentially interesting character work felt like it was made inaccessible by being conveyed purely through visual metaphors or subtext.

Regarding the elevator thing, I assume you mean the moral element as well? Again, it's pretty obvious when the show wants to tell you that characters are being corrupted, and their basic motivations are being exploited, and they're being manipulated; it's all conveyed very distinctly with its symbolism. But there's never any moments of humanization, where the characters aren't acting like art pieces, or maybe just not enough for me.

I should rewatch it sometime though, I know I didn't really get it the first time.
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>>133765116
>tumblr

What a surprise that tumblr likes this pretense of a show with zero substance
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>>133765116
Because I'm not a dyke.
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>>133781510
also stuff like Miki's stopwatch; it's obvious that there's no actual purpose or meaning to it, but it's constantly framed as if to emphasize its significance. Maybe I just don't understand the aesthetic thesis things like that were meant to imply.
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>>133781657
If we're going actually meta, the stopwatch is not just a framing device, he presses it to make it apparent an important plot point has come to its conclusion every time. That's why it surprises him a few times.

It's the same thing as the scene slides on SHAFT shows.
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>>133781799
Oh, I didn't notice that. I thought he was just using it to punctuate his conversation for some reason.

yeah I should just rewatch the show
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>>133779511
Honestly I think he's just a nerd who was measuring out their council meetings.

You'll note that he usually stops it when they reach a connclusion or they get to the point of their meetings
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>>133765116
canon fucks a darkie and I'm not a kek
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>>133783117
nice reddit meme
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I don't like Ikuhara.
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>>133769001
Why?
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>>133765116
It's definitely among my Top 10, anon.

>>133777881
I like your taste, despite disagreeing on some points.
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Nanami has some of the most interesting character development in the series.
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>>133779092
She was 13. Not that hard to manipulate.
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>>133783636

Ikuhara is great when someone competent is handling the writing, visual direction is his strong point
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>>133784435
Who did the wiring for Penguindrum, because that was pretty good.
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>>133765116
looks like a show for faggots
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>>133765116
is that a man or woman?
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>>133786198
How could you think that's a man?
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>>133786416
have you not seen nourin?
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For /a/v/:
http://nviewer.mobi/player?video_id=sm2853498
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>>133765116
Because I'm human garbage probably.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x376olk_sore-ga-seiyuu-ending-ver-9-utena-op_music
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>>133781422
MOKUSHIROKU
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>>133765116
because im not a tumblr using landwhale newfag like you
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>>133765116
Because Penguindrum is better.
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Juri episodes are the best

THE BEST
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But it is. Best Ikuhara and possibly the best anime.
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>>133766230
I thought it was from a doujin author.
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>>133769001
>>133765508
If you wanted pure untouched waifus, why would you watch a show with the primary message being a feminist one?
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>>133770581
Get out.
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>>133794029
There are so many things wrong with this post.
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because Lain
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>>133794201
Such as?
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>>133780924
UNMEI
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>>133765116
I'm a prude and don't care about richfags' silly games
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It's one of them, but I live and die by avian jelly lion
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What was the point of the Black Rose arc?
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