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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide (read Guide before asking questions):
http://bitlasers.com/djt

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>>133729268
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なるべく諦めない!
なせば大抵なんとかなる!

Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
If you're tired of staring over, stop giving up.
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>>133749752
How did you manage to pack /any/ fate references into such a useless post, let alone two.
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http://skypech.com/
How many of you managed to find a decent girl to talk to on there? Most don't even have a profile picture
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>>133755024
Define decent.
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>Cornucopia
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How do I get a Japanese gf with huge tits?
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I'm struggling hardcore with vocab

Help me /djt/
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Every i-adjective has a clear distinction between the functions of its -い ending and its -く ending, right? Yet for some reason, in colloquial speech すごい, and only すごい, is used as an adverb while still retaining the -い ending. For example, you can say either すごくたのしかった or すごいたのしかった and it won't make a difference, but you can only say 厳しく扱ってくれる and not 厳しい扱ってくれる. I believe ひどい also does this sometimes. I wonder what makes them so special that they seem to be the only i-adjectives that went through this "adverbalization" process. Probably because they're so common in spoken language, but then a lot of other adjectives would have been good candidates too.
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>>133755453
Do Heisig/Kanjidamage/learn to write.
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>>133755250
What's so funny about cornucopia?
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>>133755250
>10 (not 十?)
>what I believe to mean "spot"

Pls explain
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>>133755592


Mouseover with Rikai or look it up on Jisho.
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>>133755514
I don't really understand but I subconsciously use either form to attach to other adjectives but the connective form to connect to verbs.
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>>133755592
>点
>what I believe to mean "spot"
Is this the power of keywords?
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>>133755592
>>what I believe to mean "spot"

>RTK
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>>133754962
But shitposting is so much fun
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>>133755557
It sounds a bit archaic in the 21st century 2bh
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>>133755695
>>133755773
>using a deck that only has Heisig keywords
>not using one that also has Kanjidic words and example vocabulary
>not eventually fading out keywords for cloze vocab
If the keywords end up causing confusion like that because you weren't paying attention, then it's your own fault for using a bad deck and/or misunderstanding the method.
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>>133755592
It means 10 points
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>>133754962
I can't even learn the kana
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>>133755912
Yes but why
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>>133755930
Well. There's 10 which means ten. And there's the kanji that means point.
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>>133755953
But why 10 and not the Kanji for ten?
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>>133755514
>Probably because they're so common in spoken language
This combined with the fact that they are overused by dumb people, and are slangy
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>>133755963
Nips usually use normal numbers. They are easier to use and look nicer
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>>133755963
Because Nihongoland uses arabic numbers frequently anyways. You typically see the Arabic "10" on score cards from judges anyways.
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>>133755995
>>133756026
Neat
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>djt memetexts RTK every time
>djt recommends RTK every time
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Another question about translating ranks: Is it true Private E-1 is translated as "Nitohei (二等兵)" and Private E-2 as "Ichitochei (一等兵)?"
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>>133756206
It's almost like DJT has at least 2 people
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>>133755592
It means your Japanese test score
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how helpful is rosetta stone japanese?
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>>133756228
Ittouhei
Just google 一等兵 you wil instantly get how to read it
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>>133756268
It helps rosetta stone's profits. Please buy their shit.
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>>133756268
I pirated it once.

It's pretty shit. Decent for learning pronunciation
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>>133756268
I used it and became beyond fluent
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>>133756294

Thanks

In regards to syllable marks, if they're recommended due to romanization issues with replacing "ō" with "ou," what about "Hadouken" from Street Fighter? Go with "Hadōken" or "Hadouken?"
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>>133756384
What else did you use?
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How le fug do I mine this word? Do I put all the meanings on one card? That seems incredibly burdensome.

What do you guys do when you run into a word with so many different meanings?
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>>133755024
I'm back. I managed to have a decent talk with a girl for about half an hour. Was pretty good. My first time speaking too. I've only been studying 5 months but the conversation flowed alright. I can't pronounce for shit though, I need to work on it
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>>133756700
jesus take the wheel
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>>133756675
Pimsleur and Slime Forest
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>>133756465
Both ok. Most Japanese are not autists who would be triggered by that small variety In writing words.
There's a reason why Japanese people write Tokyo Kyoto and Osaka not Toukyou Kyouto and Oosaka. Well, you should use all syllable to use Japanese IME but it's hella mendokusai for major Japanese in handwriting.
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>>133756700
>mining ultra-common words with complicated meanings
You're doing it wrong. Just pick it up through reading more.

Most of those meanings go along with set expressions, so if you see カギをかける and the meaning of かける confuses you there then add the whole expression.
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>>133756700
I can give you three good reasons not to mine it at all. First, for obvious reasons you don't get a lot of benefit from doing words that are very common in anki, and かける is extremely common. You'd be better off using that deck space with some other word. Second, anki doesn't work very well if you have to stop and think about several meanings of a word, it's supposed to be fast, but there's also no reason to pick on meaning of かける over any other, so it's just not very suited for an anki card. Finally, memorizing a list of meanings might give you the wrong idea about the verb. Many of these meanings only arise in specific constructions which you're better off getting acquainted through exposition.
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>>133755453
>>133755518
I'm down to doing only 10 new vocab / day and I still forget them as soon as I close the card

Do I need to quit society and go to the mountains to train?
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>>133756930
You pick hang because that's usually listed first in every dictionary and Heisig/kanjidamage and move the fuck on.
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>>133757353
It's still a waste to make a card for it at all. Also, over 90% of the time you see it it's going to be with some other meaning that's not quite "hang".
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>>133757398
Hang is a very versatile word that can sort-of substitute enough times to make it useful.

If I was making a card instead of using someone else's deck, yeah, I probably wouldn't make a card for it, but it's not going to hurt you if there's one in there.
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>>133757439
You're late
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>>133757584
I agree, but anon's question was about mining, i.e. making a card for it. I'd even add that if somebody came to me and asked me to define かける in one English word I'd first tell them that it's impossible, but upon insistence I'd just say "hang".
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>>133757592
Was busy talking to lolis in Japanese in my dreams
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>>133756930
Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind.

Do you ever make separate cards for certain words with more than one meaning?
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How often do Japanese schools fire foreign English teachers for incompetence?
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>>133758149
I never have and I don't think that would be necessary. Most words have at most 2 or 3 notably distinct usages, so it's easy to fit all of it in a single card. Those words that do have a lot of usages tend to be extremely common like かける. Having that said, I don't think there's anything wrong with isolating a specific usage of a word in a card if you think it would be better for you to reinforce that in your memory, and it just might happen that a word has two usages you wish to reinforce in isolation, though I don't think this has ever happened to me. In general, I think it's just better to 'get to know' a word through exposure. Anki is best reserved for the simple task of making a simple connection between a word and a simple meaning, you can expand on the complexity of the word later.
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>>133758088
ロリと日本語で喋っただろう?
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>>133758451
There is probably no data besides anecdotal data on this.
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>>133759289
Would it be likely to happen to me if I'm bad at the job, though?
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>>133759381
Sorry, I really have no clue. On the one hand Japanese people have a fame of being very rigorous about work, but on the other hand maybe gaijins get a completely different treatment.
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I'm too retarded for core2k
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>>133759524
No you're not, you're probably just not approaching it correctly.
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>random words, some incredibly easy, have furigana in this LN
Were they throwing darts to determine this?
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>>133759598
Help me ;_;
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>>133760137
Post your anki stats for the deck
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>>133760137
Do RTK. I'm not even joking. If you're having a lot of trouble with anki doing RTK is a way out of your slump.
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I'm never gonna learn Japanese lmao

but i love trying though
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>>133760185
not the anon you replyed to Im a different retard, what's RTK
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>>133760218
Read the pastebin in the op.
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>>133760218
Heisig's Remembering The Kanji, a slightly polemical and very memetical book around these parts.
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>>133760168
Which part? I only just started a few days ago
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>>133760317
The whole screen
It has a save image button
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>>133760330
I'm on my phone right now, it's separated into tabs on mobile
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>>133760352
The part that shows what buttons you press for new cards, reps, and mature cards then
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>>133760375
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>XとYのZ
>"X and the Z of Y"?
>"X and Y of Z"?
>"When X, Z of Y also"?

NAZE NANDA NIHONJIN????
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>>133760410
Holy shit that's bad

Do kanji meaning study somehow
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>>133760582
Now write Japanese sentences where the translation actually works like that
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>>133760648
>Holy shit that's bad

Am I incapable of learning Japanese
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ-dBHCHo3E
why japanese people
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>>133760700
Just like learn japanese

it'll happen eventually

I went 9 months without studying and now I'm reading hanahira fluidly.
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>>133760893
>are you aware of your own defect
How do the people who make those books get away with this shit?
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>>133760927
>I went 9 months without studying and now I'm reading hanahira fluidly.
wow lad
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>>133760927
Is not studying the key to success then?
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>>133761451
Not really, I would've been reading it at one month if I sturied.
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>hey me, you know what would be a good idea?
>what?
>unsuspending all your leeched cards at once
>brilliant!
Why am I such a retard?
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>>133761500
Install load balancer before you kill yourself.
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>>133761500
>mature leeches

What?
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>>133760927
>Just like learn japanese
>it'll happen eventually

?????

what does that even mean
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>>133761500
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>>133761546
Just like learn japanese man
Just do it
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>>133761543
I'm not only reviewing my leeched cards.
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Is it normal that the mature % rate for my mined deck is low, like 85-90%?
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>>133761631
*I meant mature correct % rate
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this cat is FUCKING CUTE
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>>133761500
Bad idea. Leeches are leeched for a reason - anki didn't effectively get you to memorize them. You have to study leeches outside of anki, you have to give them extra special attention. Write them each 10 times, make mnemonics, do custom study for them every day. Or, let them be suspended and just pick them up through reading, though I don't recommend that. Either way, don't be retarded and unsuspend them
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「無一物」
仏に逢えば仏を殺せ
祖に逢えば祖を殺せ
何物にも捕われず
縛られず
ただあるがままに己を生きる
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>>133761869
kono neko wa mechakucha kawaii desu yo ne
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>>133762531
haha arigatu desu ;P
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>>133762531
mashuramu hedo wa kusai desu.
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Pay attention class
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>>133762316
Is the second sentence saying "Hee... I certainly wondered if you liked harems"?
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>>133762698
She thought a harem would be good. She's being boke about MC having 6 girls clinging to him at that point in time
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>>133754959
.
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>>133762724
Oh right, she's talking about herself.
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>>133762724
Why the のか then?
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>>133762822
Because that's what she was thinking.
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Had 2 years of university Japanese but I am returning to it now after a while. I've been grinding Kanji and my short-term goal for now is getting through the 1006 grade school Kanji before starting the Core 2k vocab deck.

Someone tell me if I'm being a moron.
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>>133762904
You should grind the kanji while doing core2k. Do both at once.
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>>133762316
what's the name of that nukige
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>>133763307
https://vndb.org/v15482
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>>133761869
>english sentence
This is what the Jews want you to do, hide it if you want to learn Japanese.
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>>133763340
Any good?
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>>133763355
Hey, good advice. Thanks. Wish I could do that, would be even better.
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>>133763452
you're dumb
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>>133763468
u2
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>>133763437
Leftmost girl is mostly just gangbangs with the demon queen, middle girl's route has tons of vibrators and bondage, rightmost girl has pure love and tsundere being broken down; overall it was a nice fap but not something remarkably good. It DID have a lot of plot for a nukige (like real plot unrelated to sex) so it was good reading practice, though.
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>>133760927
>>133760648
Nothing else? So is there just no hope for me? I really am too dumb to learn this language?

I tried doing today's cards but I've had to relearn almost everything from yesterday so I turned new cards to 0 for now
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>>133763645
Just keep trying to learn japanese and you'll get there. There's no such thing as too dumb to learn a language, unless you're mentally retarded as to be unable to speak any language at all, which is clearly not the case.
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>sit on bed
>open up ハイペリオン
>just read
>follow along with the story
I have reached my final form.
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>>133764505
今、あなたの日本語わ最高ですか?
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>>133764639
そうです。
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羨ましいな~ 俺わ日本になりたいけど私の日本語わ最低です。
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>だが次二ふざけた子と言ってみろ・・・
>「バレーボールの刑」にしてやる
>However the next time you dare to say such joke, [punishment name] yada yada (let's leave it at "I'll turn you into valleyball"
Correctness aside, what do てみろ and にしてやる do?
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>>133765232
頑張れ!名無しさん
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>>133765282
I suck cocks, you know where に and こ should be.
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>>133765282
I keep reading 次二 as 二次
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http://strawpoll.me/6055772
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3 years later and I'm fluent in Japanese, time to move on to an actually hard language. Wish me luck!
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>Can't for the life of me remember anki cards
Most cards takes me at least 30 times to remember, and even then just barely. I can usually remember what the kanji means after a few times, but I keep forgetting the pronunciation.
What am I doing wrong?
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>>133766469
>Wish me luck!

I will not

English and Japanese are the only languages worth learning
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>>133766548
Maybe if you're an /a/ peasant.
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工廠
rare kanji for you rare kanji colonists
>>133766469
chinese is only hard because no compelling content
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>>133766548
I'm learning Chinese just to learn it. Same thing happened with Japanese at a certain point. If the learning process isn't reward enough you will probably end up stagnating as a intermediate and be forever in this vague inbetween zone where you have to guess at stuff based on context and never really understanding everything. That is where most people who call themselves fluent end up.
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>>133766596
>chinese is only hard because no compelling content
Chinese is hard because of pronunciation. And I'm not talking about tones, I'm talking about trying to hear sounds that don't exist in English.
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>>133766596
Here's one for you in return: 竣工
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>>133766639
Meh. If you keep guessing based on context eventually all of your guesses will be right. If you keep reading (and looking up words) you will achieve close to 100% understanding soon enough (couple years) for familiar contexts. 90% of that "vague understanding haze" is not knowing the vocab well, and 10% being unfamiliar with grammar, obviously looking up words will eliminate the unknown vocab and simple quantity will solve the grammar problem, so no worries.
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>>133766680
Compelling content broski
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>>133766729
My point is that if you don't enjoy that process you will probably end up stagnating, aka not do it consistently enough to actually make progress. You will be what I like to call "polyglot fluent" in the language. If you want native fluency you need to keep pushing even when certain types of texts seem easy enough. Branch out to the news and pre-WWII literature.
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>>133766844
>If you want native fluency
I'm not concerned about that. I have one concern: Do I understand what I'm consuming? If not, I need to learn it, if so, then all is well. It's a solid philosophy that has done me well. No imaginary "native" levels, no "ploygot fluency" stuff. Just simply, do I understand.
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>>133766943
It's easy to stay in a comfort zone. You could be able to read lots of easy VN's but try and read a thread on 2ch and be completely fucked.
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おい、そこの幼女、百合百合したいか
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>>133764505
>Reading VN on auto-play for the first time ever
Pure bliss
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>>133767068
I will worry about a thread on 2ch when I read a thread on 2ch. If I have no problem reading everything I want to read, be it in a comfort zone or not, why would I care? Like I said, I'm not concerned about an imaginary native level, or any lofty goals. I just want to understand what is laid before me at the current moment. If I can accomplish that, I will be satisfied.
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>>133767143
about how long did you study Japanese before being able too keep up with a vn?
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>>133767086
したいくらいはしてないわけではないかもしれない・・・?
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>>133767344
This VN is pretty damn easy compared to others I've played. There is no narration and everything is voiced, which is why I can keep up. It feels like a voiced SoL manga basically. Sometimes I pause to look up some words but it flows pretty well.

I studied pretty hardcore for about 6-8 months then didn't have contact with any japanese media for about 5 years. Since I restarted I've been at it for 4 months
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Man, my grammar comprehension is at all time low today.
Does this say that the hobby is complaining TO women in adult games or complaining ABOUT women in adult games?
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How do I stifle the urge to mine every word I see? I know it's dumb but I still want to.
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>>133767646
Don't resist, sooner or later you'll run out of words to mine.
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>>133767143
oh shit I need to read this
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>>133767646
Make up a rule like "only mine X a day" or "only mine words with new kanji" or "only mine words that bother you"
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>>133767646
Add everything. Easy words will quickly become mature, so it's not much of an added labour.
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>>133767683
Do it senpai
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>tfw just started katakana training the other day and the joy of going to a .jp website and being able to make marginal sense of the menu selections
It's a little thing, but it's such a good feeling when you start to see than memorization is not for nothing.
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>>133767633
Adult games and complaining to women.
に means "and" in this case.
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>>133767666
>Don't resist, sooner or later you'll run out of words to mine.
Haha, good one.
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>Adjectival Noun
What
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>>133768006
You sure about that?
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>>133768249
na-adjective
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>>133768340
I don't know what that means either
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I really don't have much problems recognizing kanji when I'm reading but when I'm trying to write them down, it's getting very tight. What's the problem?
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>>133768557

You practice more from kani -> meaning than meaning -> kanji

Memory doesn't necessarily work both ways
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>>133768557
You aren't doing RTK or an equivalent.
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>>133767833
>なんか夫婦っぽくないか、今の私達

What is this supposed to mean? "Are non-married couple things like our current selfs" ? I feel like I'm so far off, I shouldn't have even said what I was thinking
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>>133768557
Foreign language recall is four times recognition.

I thought that was common knowledge
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>>133768672
>Foreign language recall is four times recognition.
>I thought that was common knowledge

Fuck, reproduction not recognition.

You can recognize four times as much as you can produce on demand.
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>>133768006
>に means "and" in this case.
It can do that? First time I hear it.
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>>133768664
>It kind of feels like we're a married couple (when we're like this), doesn't it?
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>>133768395
Well, you should. Haven't you studied any grammar at all?
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Why did the Japanese use to cheer so much?

Well, it was the 唱和 era after all
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>店に歩いたのはパンを買った
>walked to the store to buy bread
I have so much trouble trying to correctly order everything
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>>133768774
no
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>>133768730
I've seen it used like that before.
ハンバーグにコーラです。お待たせ!
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>>133768877
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>>133768877
Why are you worrying about classification of words then? They make no sense unless learned in a context of grammar.
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>>133768963
Because it was an English term I didn't understand, not a Japanese one
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>>133769026
Are you being facetious on purpose? Learn grammar and you'll know that shit, there's no point in knowing it know..
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>>133769026
It's an English term that exclusively refers to Japanese grammar. So if you don't know anything about Japanese grammar it's only natural you won't understand. you dumb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjectival_noun_%28Japanese%29
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>>133768720
For me it's a ratio of 1000:1, so don't come here with your common knowledge.
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>>133768824
お店に歩いてパンを買った
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>>133769265
This is just "I walked to the store and bought bread."

>>133768824
This doesn't make a lot of sense at all. Sounds like you're saying "The reason I walked to the store is I bought bread." or something like that.

店にパンを買いに歩いて行きました
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>>133768824
パンを買いに店に歩いて行った
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我が人生はパンを買うのためにあるぞ
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>>133768824
パンを買うためにお店に行った
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>>133768824
パンが欲しいなーって思って店に行って来た
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>>133769705
確かにパンは大事だけど、奇跡だとでも言われるほど大事だけど、自分をもっと大切にしろ
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お店には、パンを買うしかないだろう
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>>133769265
>>133769467
>>133769626
>>133769739
Okay, I'm still having a lot of trouble knowing when to use particles, what particles etc.
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>>133769798
Read more.
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>>133769821
もっと店でパンを買った方がいいな、同感だ
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>>133769798
もっと読め
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What's パンの耳 actually mean again?
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>>133768824
パンをお尻に挿れる希望を与える為にお店に行ってパンを買った。
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>>133769821
>>133769872
I will try my best
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>>133769798
もっとパンを食え
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>>133769893
What the fuck, Japan. Why???
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>>133768824
市の売店に食パンを購入しに散歩した
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>>133769951
It makes sense when you know what it actually means instead of the vague edict definition.
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>>133769951
cmon its so cute
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>>133769893
パンの耳をお店で買いに行った
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焼けた食パンの表面はきつね色や薄茶色であるが、サンドイッチなどに使う時は白い部分だけを用い茶色の部分あたりは切り落とすことがある(ことが多い)。切り落とした部分は「パンの耳」などと呼ばれている。
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>>133770151
Thanks, friend!
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>>133769991
目的地がある時点で散歩じゃなくなるんじゃないか
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>>133770151
おぉ、勉強になった
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>>133770250
散歩はぶらぶら歩く、歩き回るってこと?
なるほど
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>>133770151
i cant read this
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>>133770443
パンの耳 are basically strips of breadcrust like what you get when you remove the crust from sliced bread when you make a sandwich.
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Word of the day: ジパング

パンだけに
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>>133769905
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>>133770151
パンの耳もちゃんと食べなきゃ
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>>133770539
おいしいぞ
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>>133770430
ちなみに、「散策」という言葉は「散歩」とほぼ同じ意味であるが、「散策」には「風景や雰囲気などを楽しみながらのんびりと歩く」というニュアンスも含まれています
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Best RTK deck?
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>>133770859
The one you make yourself out of http://ziggr.com/heisig/
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>>133770982
You can't even read おいしいぞ?
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>>133770982
Maybe you should actually study Japanese if you are in these threads
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>>133770982
>おいしいぞ
>もっとパンを食え
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>>133770496
>zipang
>japan
>japon
>yaponia
Where did gaijin get those names from when it's called 日本? Chinese?
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>>133771183
https://translate.google.com/#zh-CN/en/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC
Press the speaker icon.
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>>133771183
Different cultures read the characters for 日本 differently, and baka gaijins distorted them even more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Japan
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>>133771267
Fucking Chinese
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>>133771183
ジパング (n) Zipangu (the name for Japan used by Marco Polo); (P)

Yeah I wonder who they could have gotten it from.
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>>133771331
そこでニホンが伝わってさえいれば…とおもうわけだよ
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>>133771183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-gbeI0AFQ

Multiply that effect over a few different distortions as the word travels through different dialects and language ans it's not really that surprising that Nippon has become Zipang or Japan at different places and times.
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Word of the day:
社畜
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>>133771331
What does the (P) mean?
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>>133767833
Is there a PC version or do you just emulate it?
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>>133771885
Emulator
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>>133771827
Proper noun
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>>133771979
Thanks heaps, I feel dumb now after seeing it so many thousands of times in edict definitions and never bothering to look it up.
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>>133772046
How would you look it up? Google (P)?
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>>133771964
Ok, thanks.
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>>133772076
"edict word classifications"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDICT#Word_class_abbreviations
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>>133769207
You're just dumb then.
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>>133772461
Compelling
When things don't fit your world view, everyone else is an idiot and wrong but you.
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トランプは株をできれない。
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「え!」
Wow!
「え?」
Really?
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>>133772660
>え!
canadians going "Hey?" at the end of every sentence
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>>133772560
>everyone

No, just you.
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>>133772690
ooi とか owoi だよ。おにいちゃん
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>>133767833
first dialogue and a kanji I can't find
1st kanji on 2nd line, isn't the radical on the right 司? Why the fuck can't I find it on jisho radical search
I don't know what's the radical on the left
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友達が「どうして日本語を勉強しているの?」と聞いている時に君たちの答えは何ですか
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>>133772842
>I don't know what's the radical on the left
it's the 食 radical, grade 9 radical under jisho
>>133772897
>mfw I could read this
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>>133772842
飼い猫
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>>133772897
あたしのこたえは「今にも落ちてきそうな空の下で」おにいちゃん
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>>133772767
>妹
>タバコを吸う姉ちゃんを掲載した
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>>133772897
「趣味だから」と言う
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>>133772946
>>133772958
why does this happen
一 is part of 司
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>>133773116
It's not considered a fundamental component
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>>133773129
That's retarded
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>>133773155
Considering the barb a fundamental component is already retarded, considering that the mask-like part is a single piece.
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>>133773191
I should be able of finding a kanji by searching any of its components.
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>>133773238
But 一 isn't a component there
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>>133773250
It's right above 口.
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>>133772842
If you select Natural Colors in Postprocessing shader the game looks much nicer imo
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>>133773266
Not really. Look at 減, same "mouth with line" construct, no 一 radical.

Radical lookup is an ass way to find kanji anyway, just scribble it in Google, or just try the most obvious readings. 司 is strong for し.
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>>133772897
そもそも聞く人はない
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>>133772897
>>
>just accidently deleted 2 months of anki progress
Oh well, time to start again Its not like it was a 1 years worth I guess.
>>
>next time on star trek: djt
https://youtu.be/O1A2zPqVq5w?t=1m26s
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>>133773893
m) "Vocal cord parasites, English strain"
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>>133773893
The correct answer is "No, I'm not learning Japanese." Otherwise, they'll just look down on you for being a pathetic weebkek.
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>>133773893
i > d > j > l > h > b > g > others
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>>133773915
Just remember to use "easy"
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>>133773915
Anki automatically creates backups (at least on PC), so you should be able to use one of those unless.
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>>133773893
>Sadly my sexual affiliation is discriminated against in this country, so I have no choice but to use Japanese lolicon manga as a substitute.
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>>133774541
unless you disabled automatic backups somehow*

Just open options and go to the backup tab and open the backup folder.
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Am I supposed to sit on each anki card and come up with clever little ways to remember each meaning or do I just blast through them all getting them all wrong until I just recognize them

I was doing okay with working out ways to remember them but there are too many fucking cards
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>>133772461
No, I just don't care about writing hieroglyphs.
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>>133774879
Just look at it long enough to make it look familiar.
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>>133774879
Blast through them until you notice you're having trouble with a certain card, then take a second to look at it and go "ok, 勉強、べんきょう, to study... It has the kanji from 強い" ... etc, try to make a few connections like that, say the word out loud or in your head.

t. 90% correct rate on young cards in anki
ps. what does this t. mean?
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>>133775043
>ps. what does this t. mean?
It means "I'm european, a kek, and can't even speak english properly"
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>>133775043
>>133774879
FUCKING NEWFAGS
LURK MOAR
GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY BOARD
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>>133775110

FUCK YOU
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>>133774879
Most people don't use mnemonics, but I've made one for the reading of each of the 850 Core cards I've done so far and it works well for me (92% young). I reuse a lot of stock characters, such as my mother for ま, so it usually takes less than 30 seconds to think of a mnemonic. I'm a retard and would probably have something like 50% young without mnemonics.
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>俺が自らの腕を犠牲に、足を守ったのだ。
そうです、背に腹はかえられぬ。ふむふむ
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How would you translate notice me senpai?
私に気づいて、先輩? that doesn´t seem very natural
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>>133775883
The question is, what was it translated from, you know
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>>133775914
it was translated from "notice me senpai"
i forgot to add the kanji in 気付いて
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>People typing japanese in english in chat
>I cant understand it
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>>133776171
M8.

>>133776292
Don't feel bad they were probably just weeaboos with google translate.
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>>133775771
>I reuse a lot of stock characters, such as my mother for ま
Sorry?
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>>133776331
sorry, i better get these reps going
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>get to part two of RTK
>informs me that by not drawing the Kanji as I've gone along I have totally fucked myself

O-oh
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>>133775883
Seems good to me.
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>>133776581
Writing it down seemed natural to me, always helped me retain information. I write all my vocab down too.
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>>133776581
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>>133776581
You can always learn to write at a later date, just learn to read for now. Or don't, do whatever you think is fun.
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>>133776581
>not reading the introduction portions of all 3 books to gain an overall idea of how and when to better use them
It's like you never selfstudied, Anon.
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>>133773893
A mix of k and e. I love the way it sounds. I don't like the sound of many languages either.
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I don't get this. What did she want her to say?
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>>133776581
Writing them down helped my retention a lot, although it slowed my review time too. Part 1 is less than 300 kanji, not much to review again by writing, it's not like you're starting over.
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>>133773893
>tfw ab normie
>>
>learning programming
>come back to learning japanese for the nth time
>prioritizing learning japanese, even though programming is more important
>now feel like I have no time for learning programming even though I'm doing less than 2 hour a day of japanese

I'm a NEET that does only 4chan and programming, why the fuck do I feel like I have no time?
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>>133776857
im using this to learn
http://kat-kickasstorrent.com/irasshai-japanese-language-learning-course-video-course-1996-1998-mp4-t10720653.html
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>>133776857
I dunno, if you're gonna do RTK then you might as well write.
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>>133777000
ひざ obviously
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>>133777000
膝?
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>>133777058
Fuck off.
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>封筒
>sealed cylinder
Is that the same thing when bongs call police "guards"?
>>
にしん にしん にしん にしん にしん

こどもがうまれるのは?
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>>133777192
nisioisin?
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>>133777058
Me too, kinda. Although I'm already a proficient programmer, so it's more about putting my knowledge to use than learning.

It's probably because programming takes more effort, you have to come up with shit. Idly clicking through my anki reps at least counts as something productive for little effort. Anyway ganbatte.
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>>133777169
It's because in the olden days you'd pack scrolls into sealed cylinders for transportation obviously.
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>>133777000
Better question.
Why do anime people have their noses so far to the side on their faces?
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>>133777058
>no time for learning programming
Impossible. Human beings learn programming via osmosis.
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>>133777288
That's not supposed to be the nose.
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>>133777288
That's their cheek, retard.
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>>133777288
really
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>>133777058
>why the fuck do I feel like I have no time?
You waste your time on 4chan instead of doing stuff
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>>133777288

Answer me this ancient riddle: Why are you so gay?
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>>133777334
>>133777354
>>133777374
Fucking hell, have you retards never seen basic artistic methods before? They remove the lines to soften the faces, kind of like what they do when they remove lip lines a bit. Here's with the noses drawn in. It's definitely not as "kawaii," but that could be fixed if they moved the noses not so far to the fucking side.
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>>133777519
The angle doesn't make sense.
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>>133777519
Oh, you're trolling
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>>133777519
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>>133777519
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>>133777053
>normie
>>
改竄
rare kanji for you kanji noses
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>>133777519
>basic artistic methods
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>>133777670
You can keep your shit kanji.
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>>133777288
鼻をなくすと、特徴がなくなってしまうではないか
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>>133777817
It has been thrust upon you and there is nothing you can do about it. Enjoy your knowledge.
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>>133777670
I should make a deck for all these just to artificially inflate my kanjigrid numbers.
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>>133777990
I see these in normal novels so it's not like they're worthless.
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>>133777824
髪に鼻が隠れたよ。
>>
SHIT, i didnt know VNs would be so effective, straight from the first page i see loads of new grammar i havent even studied before, and i'm just studying the grammar as we go.

How was your first VN playthrough? how much did you improve etc.
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>>133778299
You're a faggot.
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>>133778299
i understood exactly what they were saying but couldn't read shit
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>>133778329
no, you're a faggot.
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>>133778375
You're a kek faggot.
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>>133778299
A fuckton
Unfortunately by the 5-10th VN improve gets hard to notice since at that point its 95% just learning vocab
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>>133778414
pls stop bully :'(
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>>133778299
I remembered reading several manga volumes of different things at first. And then I tried my first long VN and my skill seemed to skyrocket after I was done. And my cockness too. A huge ass improvement either way.
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>>133778299
It hasn't happened yet because I can't into vocab
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>>133778578
My post-vn cockiness dies a lot when I realized a lot of tiny bits still eluded me even if I have 90% of it down. So someone could take me the fuck down with a single twist of grammar.

Now I just read and hope that everything will work itself out.
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>床 - bed, floor
Fucking barbarians.
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>>133778659
How many mature cards have you gotten down?
>>
弱い is easy because it's like 弱い can't i remember this fucking card
>>
扮していた
rare kanji for you rare kanji didacts
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>>133779016
You really need to read more.
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>>133779096
What do you think I'm doing now?
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>>133779121
Shitposting.
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>>133778738
floor ゆか
bed とこ
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>>133779139
Only in the meantime.
>>
糞掲示
rare kanji for you rare kanji gourmets
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>>133779166
Still the same symbol.
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>>133778788
75
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>>133779494
Keep working on those reps then.
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>>133779231
Anon you really need to read more... maybe one day you'll be as good as me, but that day seems far off... because you're not good (unlike me)...
>>
Is there any source for grammar that's easier than Tae Kim?

Because even the first lesson is leaving me fucking confused
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>>133779573
You're screwed, sorry. Consider learning grammar from DJT arguments instead.
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>>133779573
Nope.
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>>133779593
if you're that low level just start with genki lessons. they're literally the start
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>>133779573
Oder the DoJG and read it cover to cover.
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>>133779251
日本人もさんざんおかしいと思ってるから、気にしないでね。ちょっと長いけど聞いてみてね

1:20までは別の話なので飛ばしてね。おにいちゃん
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMaTWSogz4
>>
There isn't ANYTHING I'd like to read
what the fuck do I do
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>>133779978
quit
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>>133779978
If you smell shit everywhere you go, check under your shoe.
Which is to say, fix yourself. There are fucking tons of great Japanese media, literally among the most in the entire world. If you can't find SOMETHING to consume, you're just being a baby and a loser.
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>>133780019
>There are fucking tons of great Japanese media
there aren't
>literally among the most in the entire world.
not true
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>>133779978
There's a manga for basically any genre or plot you can imagine, how are you not able to find anything?
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>>133780046
There is, and it is true.
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>>133780052
Right, try finding a military manga that isn't shit.
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>>133779978
Literally anything, of any description or flavor or interest, exists in Japanese. Even "shitposting on 4chan" exists in Japanese.

If you find the whole of human creation uninteresting, you may as well just kill yourself now and save the time.
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>>133779645
>open up genki
>first page

fuck, don't start the thing by scaring me like that
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>>133780085
Japanese media isn't for anything actually serious, of course you can't say this on /a/
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>>133780085
Historie.
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>>133779978
Yeah, you should really quit now. The more you prolong this the bigger the regret is going to be when you realize you were wasting your time.
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>>133780192
>Japanese media isn't for anything actually serious
I'll admit that works pertaining to the military in particular didn't come to my mind but it's undeniable that Japanese manga and sometimes anime delve into really serious and dark shit. No idea why you'd imply otherwise, it's just false. You may be thinking "ah a buttmad /a/ user" but that is not the case, check out pic related. Fuckload of dark and serious manga.
>>
I need to practice production but I have nothing to write about
Being a NEET is suffering
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>>133780499
言語交換の相手を探せ
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>>133780499
Just have a conversation with yourself. If you can hold a train of thought in Japanese you can speak it as well.
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>>133780542
>言語交換の相手
Have plently, but they are dull/stop responding once I start writing in japanese usually
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>>133780571
Nope.

>>133780620
It happens, I have found a few who are mostly interested in talking to me for the sake of talking about anime and manga etc. so they don't care if it's in Japanese most of the time.
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>>133780761
Yup
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>>133780499
Start from the beginning of this thread and reply to all posts in Japanese

Then get shit on for being bad
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>>133779573
I'm using Japanese the Manga Way. It's easy.
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>>133772897
ロリゲ大好きだから
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I haven't been here in a while. How is DJT doing? Anything happened recently? Are you guys still arguing over the same things?
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>>133781369
rtk
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>>133780790
Maybe you should try conversing with a Japanese person before you start disagreeing with me.

Yes, being able to express your thoughts in Japanese is a very good start, but that's a long ways away from being able to hold a conversation at natural pace, using all the correct idioms in the correct situations and so on.

Not to mention, if you're just talking to yourself, who's gonna correct you when you're wrong? Or give you that puzzled "what the fuck is this gaijin saying" look? You're limited by your own knowledge.
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>>133772842
Maybe try to get to at least grade school level of kanji knowledge before trying to read without reading aides.
Alternatively, VNR is supposed to be able to texthook some PSP games, so you can try that out.
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>>133781586
RTK is boring and I dropped it.
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>>133781626
I didn't say anything about RTK though.
Texthook shit until you at least know the most basic ones, picking every new kanji by radical at that level will drive you insane.
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>軽昔部
I assume this means music room or something like that but jisho and rikaisama don''t have anything about it, and how do I read it?
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>>133780012
This. What's the point of learning the language if there's no good stuff in it for you?
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>>133781855
けい (軽)
おん (音)
ぶ (部)
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>>133781855
It means 軽い音楽部
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>>133781855
Your middle kanji is wrong.
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誰か日本語能力試験を受ける?
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>>133782417
はい
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>>133782417
Not me, I'm planning to take the N1 in one shot when I feel confident, don't want to waste any time or money.
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>>133782417
Yes, N3.

>>133782446
He wasn't asking about anyone taking JLPT N1.
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>>133782570
He asked if anyone is taking the JLPT and I said not me then expressed my intentions on taking it in the future
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>>133773893
>He said if I continued to use English, the tumor would kill me within the year.

WHOA-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
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>>133782570
>reading comprehension
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Dumb japs shamelessly stole our songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZs-oVuRkGM
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>>133782417
It's canceled this year in my country. Next year, I'll tackle N2.
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>tfw none of your Kanji are passing blue in Kanji Grid
Why is it broken.
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>>133783143
>tfw everyone here lowers the Kanji Grid interval to make all their grid blue
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>>133783236
Mine is set to 180 and I'm pretty sure I never changed it.

When doing my reps it doesn't go farther than 6.7 months.

Is everything set okay then?
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Should I read Tae Kim's introduction, or does that count as procrastination?
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>>133783655
It's like fucking 200 words long, you're procrastinating more by asking here for an answer than you would be if you just read the whole thing
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Going through flash cards and noticed this
あめが ふって いません
Shouldn't it be は, or is が correct?
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>>133785262
review は vs が from the beginning
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>>133785262
Nah, ga is perfect.
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>>133785262
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%E3%81%AF+vs+%E3%81%8C
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>>133780046
If you think Japan is shit and incapable of producing anything at all that might be worth reading why the fuck are you learning Japanese?
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I've been reading/watching videos about classic literature and Shakespeare for days. I've never read either of them before. I think my procrastination is in overdrive or something.
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>>133785320
>>133785330
>>133785337

Thanks, I was confused because は is often inserted with the use of negative forms

I guess it doesn't apply in this situation
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毎晩酒を飲む。
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Anyone knows? >>133785033
I need my compelling content ASAP
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>>133769992
>it makes sense when you know what it actually means
People die when they are killed.
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>>133772897
I don't have friends.
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>>133785995
Just buy it yourself?
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>>133786506
I don't want to bother with importing shit and waiting months for it to come (if they even send it here)
plus reading scans on your pc is much better than the real thing
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>In its weakest sense, intersubjectivity refers to agreement. There is intersubjectivity between people if they agree on a given set of meanings or a definition of the situation.
>Intersubjectivity emphasizes that shared cognition and consensus is essential in shaping our ideas and relations. Language, quintessentially, is viewed as communal rather than private. Therefore, it is problematic to view the individual as partaking in a private world, one whose meaning is defined apart from any other subjects. But in our shared divergence from a commonly understood experience, these private worlds of semi-solipsism naturally emerge
>yfw you now understand why people on DJT argue about stuff when they both basically agree
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おはよう。おにいちゃん
秋も深まって、野山はすっかり冬支度だよ。
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>>133785368
it's an inferiority complex anon, don't mind his autism.
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>have to learn bullshit words like "moxa cautery" because they're used in idioms
Fucking Chinese I swer to god
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>>133788211
For what? Not being able to draw cartoon porn?
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今月
kong get gf

remembering kanji is so easy
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how do i configure how long a day in anki is
I thought this was configurable
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>can't concentrate on studying because need to fap
>can't fap because family are in
help
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>>133789200
Change when the day starts in preferences.
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>>133789279
>stroking your dick to a certain illuminated array of pixels
I seriously hope you don't do this
time spent wishing is always wasted time, go study
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>>133789588
good on you m8
thanks
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>>133789279
Why don't you find some compelling content and have a gool ol' wank

Also get banned you underage faggot
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Gonna try asking again just in case, anyone know a place to DL audiobooks in Japanese? Would be very appreciated, thank you.
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>>133789645
Sorry Chad, I guess I should just b myself and go get laid, rite?

Or are you one of those delusional nofap fags?

>>133789661
>Also get banned you underage faggot
>hurr you can't have a sex drive if you're over 18 years old
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>all these new kanji in the same sitting

Goddamn. At this point, usually a day with 30 new cards will throw like 4-5 new kanji at you, but it feels like I've encountered more than 10 with this lot.
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>>133789772
https://jclab.wordpress.com/
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>>133789840
>Sorry Chad, I guess I should just b myself and go get laid, rite?
no, don't waste time and go study
stop caring about having to feel good, you're just a lousy addict who can't even concentrate without his "drug"

pathetic
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>>133789842
>Using a premade deck.
Nah nigga.
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>>133790102
I'm not sure what does this have with his problem. In my mined deck it's not rare to get 30 or more kanji out of 30 new cards in a day, which is a lot higher rate than core decks.
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>>133790165
Can't learn from premade.
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>>133790102

>all words are voiced
>example sentences w/ translation
>sentences are voiced
>with the exception of the loanwords, everything here is stuff that you need to learn

The only downsides are that it has a ton of English loan words (easily dealt with by hitting 4 and adding a few more new cards for the day to make up for it) and you sometimes need to replace their kana-only entries with kanji (doesn't take long), but the upsides kick the shit out of the downsides.
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>>133790165
I think he learns kanji separately and then only mines words he knows the kanji for
I do it similarly, but I also add words obscure kanji I wouldn't learn naturally
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>>133790205
>(easily dealt with by hitting 4 and adding a few more new cards for the day to make up for it)
Just hit delete on the card first time you see it, that way it doesn't count towards your new card limit.
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つぎの空欄に適当な語を入れて短文を完成させなさい。

1.お酒は「____」になってから。
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>>133790334
Can't read any of this, my man.
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>>133790190

My progress contradicts that (reading has definitely become much easier since I've gotten a ways into Kore), but I'd like to hear what kind of tunnel-visioned, autistic reasoning led you to that conclusion.


>>133790165

Kore tries group words with the same kanji together, so you'll get like five entries with the new kanji + shit that you already know.

That makes good sense, since it helps pound in the readings and up your recognition of the kanji.
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>>133790334
大人
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>>133790334
精汁
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>>133790334
私は悪質化なアル中の人だから、「不充分」は私の答えです。
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Can someone explain to me how the JLPT is scored? To pass the N3 do I have to get above 95 points and satisfactory points in each section or do I have to get a certain percentile?
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>>133790334
Is there a place where I can find JLPT practice test WITH answers. I have a bunch of answer less ones. They are useful but I think it would be more useful if I knew what the answers were.
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>>133790729
To pass you have to get at least 20 points on every section and 95 total points.
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>>133790456
あるいみ正解じゃないだろうか

>私はアルコーリックだから「切れたら」が私の答えです。
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>make a character speak a fictional language
>add subtitles so people aren't left scratching their heads
never been so happy to see this kind of retarded character, specially since jap-subs are slow to come in the case of currently airing shows
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>>133791218
プリプラプラッパ?
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>>133791236
自殺しろ
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>>133791279
This is the wrong thread for that friend
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>>133790097
*tip*
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>>133791279
They're just gay creatures.
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Shall I keep this at 8 or increase it?
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>こんな事してる場合じゃないのに
>This is not the time to be doing something like this
Right?

Also, even now, I still don't fully understand the function of the のに at the end in, is it just to add emphasis?

I mean, I can understand when it's used like "主人公なのに…" (even though I'm the protagonist...). But in pic-related's sentence I don't see how that のに fits with the rest of the sentence
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>>133791414
Keep it, but change the leech action to "tag only", don't be a pussy.
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>>133791419
>>Also, even now, I still don't fully understand the function of the のに at the end in, is it just to add emphasis?
I've always understood it as meaning something to the effect of "even though" or "even so". I've never actually looked it up before now, but Jisho seems to suggest that I'm right.
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I've been doing anki for 4 years now. Never suspended any cards because I decided at the beginning that suspending cards is preventing me from learning them. It's better to see something that is difficult more often.
Am I doing it right?
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Have any of you taken Japanese in high school? I wish my school had Japanese because I would have been more motivated to study compared to spanish.

How does passing the Japanese AP test compare the the levels in the JLPT?
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>>133791810
本当に四年でアンキを使っているならどうして日本語で書かないの?
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>>133791932
もちろん違います。日本語で書くができます。私の暗記の使い方は正しいですか?
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>>133791810
Shouldn't you be near fluent after 4 years of study? I imagine I'll be dropping anki like a sack of potatoes after a couple of years.
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>>133791825
You're not allowed to post here if you're under 18.
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>>133791419
>I can understand when it's used like "主人公なのに…"
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>>133791419
it's "Even though this isn't the time to be doing something like this, (you guys are still doing it and wasting time)"
The thing in brackets is implied by the のに
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さっきから画像ファイルが閲覧できなくなってるんだがこれって俺だけ?
サーバーのメンテでもしてんの?
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>>133792466
こっちは異常なしですよ
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>>133792466
こっちは問題無し
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>>133792466
こっちは普通
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