Thus, right now you don't really like anime at all, just because you get it for free you can enjoy it but otherwise you wouldn't even care about it.
You are in denial about thos "hobby", you really don't like it.
People who really like Anime are the ones who buy the stuff, you are a faker and in the end you just want to masturbate or have something to have sex with, normally you would get a girlfriend or boyfriend, but, you are stuck and if you don't get out that hole you will never experience your life properly.
You are ill and need help /a/non, plus you are killing the industry that maintains your fake hobby alive, this is like a suicidal attempt but much slower and once it finishes you will be an empty creature, with prostate cancer/whatever other illness, the sad thing is that this will not even be caused because you got laid with a bunch of real people, having real sexual intercourse but masturbating to cartoons, that is pretty sad.
See ya /a/non.
Sure, if you feel like saying that. I wouldn't watch 99% of things if I couldn't get them for free. I have no idea how you can arrive at that conclusion though. the word "fan" has nothing to do with a purchase, by definition.
Only partially agree. I do own some series, but I wouldn't own most of that if it wasn't for having downloaded and watched it before. We don't get nearly as larger a sampling of anime on tv as the japs do, so finding the rare gems among the shit is a challenge, and considering the cost of a few episodes, much less the full season, are you that fucking surprised?
You start off by saying that I am in denial and hate my hobby and that I wouldn't ever pay for it, then say I kill the industry by enjoying pirated anime, do you see the contradiction here? I'm not sure even a non native speaker could wrangle together a more incoherent mess of words.
I wouldn't watch movies either, listen to music, or play video games either.
>Thus, right now you don't really like anime at all, just because you get it for free you can enjoy it but otherwise you wouldn't even care about it.
This is true.
The only reason I'm even buying anime or manga right now is because I can read it online.
It's called advertisement. How the fuck would I watch or buy something I don't even know?
I dunno, maybe if I had to put up with shitty subs and had no free was of sifting through the shit to get the good stuff then yeah I'd quit.
If not, then I'd probably just not spend so much on buying techno vinyl.
That's it, I'm going to have dinner. I hope you liked it.
feel free to post your favorite meguca
On the contrary, why would I pay for an objectively inferior product through obsolete and backwards distribution channels? Why would I continue to support people who constantly lobby to limit human progress? I already dread downloading Funimation encodes because they somehow manage to fuck up the contrast despite receiving the masters. Even CR manages to fuck up translations despite having correspondents in Japan, badly enough that even my very untrained ear can immediately pick up on it.
And now we have Sekai Project joining the 'steal translations for fun and profit' game, pulling the same shit ADV and CR pulled in the past; now with even more Goy support. In a few years I'd expect VN sites to start getting hit by the same bullshit that those two companies pulled on the fan translation scene during their heyday. The fact that the medium has CONSISTENTLY been held back in the west by redistributors says a lot about their role in the grand scheme of things. And it kills me to think that there are people who ONLY get their shit through these distribution channels.
>Buying video games.
Fallout 4 sure was worth it, eh?
I buy merch. I would have no reason to. Sure it's not as good as buying JP BDs within a month of release, but it's more than nothing.
As if JP BDs weren't expensive enough, nosubs and customs assrape kinda kills the appeal.
US BDs have subs, but take ages to come out, then I can't play them because I'm in the wrong region, then they're only a subset of what I want to see.
>this is a daily thread now
>mods do nothing
>try to post this
>find out I got warned for complaining about 4chan's policies because the mods are letting the RWBY shitposting thread live
Mods are faggots.
Your theory is silly
1) if we couldn't pirate anime/manga, then the prices of bd and hard copies would drastically lower. The price is high because it give the perfect level of customers and profit margin in the current situation, and are viewed as collectors items.
2) if we couldn't pirate anime, then the fan base in America and other countries would be non existent, and crunchy roll probably wouldn't even be a practical company to start up
3) why would we buy bds/hardcopy for everything that has a shiny cover? That and most of us don't speak ruins. If there wasn't an appeal to anime in English speaking countries, we wouldn't have translated manga of anime.
4) I am a buyfag, so I do support the industry by pooring money into one of the ways that animators judge if a project was profitable.
5)you're a humongous faggot
No, I'd just go to the library to read manga. I wouldn't watch any TV or movies if it cost as much as anime and translated manga does, I'd just read books instead. That doesn't mean I don't genuinely enjoy TV and movies, it just means I have priorities.
If I could actually buy the BDs at a reasonable price, I would already be buying anime.
But no, everything is a $150+ mega collectors edition sold in Japan only with no subs on the disc.
I download all of my anime and manga, but I support what I like through merch. I own about 10 figures currently and a whole bookshelf filled with manga. If I didn't pirate anything I doubt I would own any of this stuff as I wouldn't of thought I'd like some of these series.
In a world where piracy doesn't exist since the beginning then all of you nerds wouldn't know what anime or manga are line.
The excuse of saying that piracy is advertisement would not work and you would only be interested on buying KFC, MCDonalds, watching Disney crap on TV and listening to madonna and lady gaga.
On the contrary I would like to buy anime that I like, but ordering from Japan is too much of a pain. Release anime on Steam, add subs as optional mods so every group can put their work on there, introduce regional pricing and I'll be all over it.
>In Japan, if you want to watch anime, you pay your cable bill and watch it on tv.
>Not obligated to buy it once it goes on DVD
I may like tv shows here in the west, but I have the option of watching them and never having to purchase them here.
I want the same thing for my Animus.
If Japan can watch and not buy DVD's, then so can I. I pay my cable bill like they do, so that should be enough.
While I don't think illegal downloads are bad for the American side of the industry, I can see where OP is coming from. I typically buy anything on DVD/Blu-ray that I find myself rating 8 or higher. The only catch is that if it didn't have an American release. The reason I think it's reasonable is because if there was no American release and I didn't download illegally, how the fuck would I have ever gotten wind of it otherwise? I think my biggest issue is that there are many who wont buy the American release and have even critizised me on buying DVDs of anime which blows me away. I'm an idiot who also pays for both hulu and crunchyroll, so there's that too.
False, I got into anime when buying it was the only way I knew how to get it. Watching it for free now simply means that I can check out a far larger selection than would otherwise be available to me, and indeed allows me to check out series that I would not willingly spend my money on as they are of a low standard.
I do still buy DVDs on occasion for the exceptional series when I can, but rather than have to pay western distributors for their product (even though it is arguably better value than the Japanese equivalent) I would prefer it if Jap studios included English subs on their DVDs and had more episodes per disk, sold at a contemporary price and distributed overseas. Then I could directly support the content producers.
>I would prefer it if Jap studios included English subs on their DVDs and had more episodes per disk, sold at a contemporary price and distributed overseas
This won't be happening any time soon. Their business model relies on a small number of dedicated buyers, not a lot of less dedicated ones, and I doubt the industry could support itself as it does now if they tried to change that.
No you're right anon, not dedicated/stupid enough to pay 300$ plus shipping for a 10 year old anime show that I can get for FREE from bakaBT in a matter of hours.
Guess I am not really a fan!...
I can live with that.
It's obviously anime's fault that I'm a NEET and can't afford to buy it.
Therefore the industry is killing itself.
>If you don't support it you don't like it!
The fuck, Anime prices in todays world are daylight fucking robbery and we're not even talking the whole set, It's like £20 for like 1-5 episodes of some shows.
Don't feel bad. Japanese aren't much richer than you are, they pirate just as much. 30 thousand yen is a lot of money in Nihon too.
Only in Japan you can get arrested for it which is why Japanese pirates don't talk about it much on forums.
>You wouldn't have sex if buying was the only way to obtain it
>You wouldn't jack off if buying was the only way to obtain it
>You wouldn't breathe if buying was the only way to obtain it
>You wouldn't do fucking anything if buying was the only way to do it
This whole thread is bait and everyone knows it.
I don't know why I'm even bothering to post.
>People who really like Anime are the ones who buy the stuff
I like masturbating to you, Mumi!
Your logic doesn't look very sound /a/non. Let's have a look.
You're mixing two things up here:
>"You wouldn't watch anime if buying was the only way to obtain it."
>"Just because you get it for free you can enjoy it"
Addressing your first statement, this could be said for all forms of entertainment. I probably wouldn't watch movies if I couldn't torrent them for free. I probably wouldn't read books if I couldn't hold them at library for free. I probably wouldn't play games if I couldn't emulate them for free. So really, you're just pointing out the obvious here. Of course if we have to pay for something, we wouldn't consume it as much.
Your second point is also ridiculous. So you're saying I can't enjoy things if I don't pay to obtain them? A good anime is a good anime, regardless of whether I paid for it, I'll enjoy all the same. In fact,watching something for free makes it more enjoyable, since you don't have to worry if it was worth it cost.
Now let's think about why you would even make a thread like this. Perhaps your a NEET buyfag who feels guilty about wasting the money of his hardworking parents on expensive hentai doujins, how pathetic. Or maybe you're trying to feel superior to others for being a "a supporter of the anime industry" and a "true otaku", which is very petty and frankly, quite embarrassing.
I think he was saying that you could have the privilege to enjoy anime because you are getting it for free from the internet, if you had to pay for it from the start then you wouldn't even know about it or you would know about it like normies do, something distant from you and your culture, something weird.
That's still retarded though. As the anon you're responding to says, very few people start paying for things on a whim. One has to be introduced to something before they start investing in it.
We get it. You think it's great bait because people's jimmies get rustled when we talk about copyright laws after some raw providers got caught in nipland and now there's a big crackdown.
>You wouldn't watch anime if buying was the only way to obtain it
This is why the japanese anime creators should be personally thanking people who upload their shows to pirate sites, not condemning them.
>implying I don't already get a physical copy if it's for a show I like
Been getting all the Rightstuf Gundams and plan on getting the Utena Bluray.
That's not what you said the other day, Mami-san.
Bait or not he has a point. A lot of people just wouldn't indulge if buying were the only option. Same goes for PCshitters for those familiar with the video game community. They only pretend to care about most games because they can easily pirate them.
>You wouldn't watch anime if buying was the only way to obtain it
Holy shit you're right.
>Thus, right now you don't really like anime at all
Wrong, I just don't like it/need it enough to pay for it.
>just because you get it for free you can enjoy it but otherwise you wouldn't even care about it
All very true.
But then there's this: >>133735866
I am confused.
Do I like anime or not in the end?
>Do I like anime or not in the end?
That can only be answered if anime is taken from you and you are forced to pay for it, would you pay for it? if you do, you really like it and if not you never liked it, when someone really likes something that much then you would pay for it at any cost otherwise you were just living a dream, a delusion and a biggest waste of your time where you could be happier.
Wrong again as usual, Internet Autist. "like" is a simple matter of preference and entertainment. It's a brainless reflexive judgement not something that breaks down into "real" or "fake" based on some meaningless arbitrary criteria. Your attempts to pigeon hole everything into easy to define categories to ease your own inability to process the real world does not effectively change reality as it is. You're just wrong on a basic definitive level and no amount of backwards pedantics can rewrite the parameters of you being wrong.
You just like anime because you got it and get it for free, nips have to pay for it and they can only watch it one time on the TV, not counting re-airs.
They also have to pay for music, dvds and all.
If anime weren't something you get for free at all and you had to either live in japan and watch their TV or pay for the dvds/bds then you wouldn't be interested on it at all and you would be more into other things like video games or your own tv shows, in a world where no piracy exists (maybe in the future it will not exist).
So the truth is that you don't know if you really like anime or manga, you just got attracted to it because you could get it for free.
If you answer to the question "Would you pay for anime and manga if you had no other alternatives?" is "yes" then you really like it and if it is "no" then you just were living a dream, experimenting a fake liking and hobby.
>Thus, right now you don't really like anime at all, just because you get it for free you can enjoy it but otherwise you wouldn't even care about it.
>you don't really like anime at all, just because you get it for free you can enjoy it
>you don't really like anime at all
>you get it for free you can enjoy it
>you don't like anime
>you enjoy it
>poor people are unable to like anything
If there was no piracy you would only watch it there then and that is okay and works in a world with no piracy and your tastes would be limited to what is shown to you there.
Now internet piracy lets you have a wider taste, but think about this, you criticize normies for watching entry level garbage from what its on TV? if you do so because you pirate, imagine yourself id piracy didn't exist, YOU WOULD BE A NORMIE TOO.
I hope you get it this time anon, is not yours until you pay for it and piracy is something that shouldn't be happening and will be eradicated in the next years, by 2040 piracy will be so obscure that if you even do it you will get arrested.
It's okay to buy it but not to pirate it.
You should work for the company that does all those PSAs. That's exactly the sort of logic I see them employ. These posts would totally go well on your resume when you apply a job with them.
>You wouldn't trace a manga, mongrel
Wait a minute. First you argue that I wouldn't care about anime if I don't get it for free. Now, knowing that I pay for an anime channel, you move the goalpost to one about taste.
Make up your mind, nigga.
Wealthy fuck around because they already know what love is or they got tired of it or just want some sex.
The rest do not have time to love because they can't afford it and/or do not have time because they are working, so they only rely on fuckbuddies to get some of the stress from the work out of their heads.
You got a wider taste in anime because you are pirating it, watching things that do not air yet on your TV, you are getting knowledge above your current social status and you should be grateful for that.
When piracy becomes extinct you maybe will the happiest person on earth who enjoyed it when it was the flavor of the day everyday.
>poor people fuck cause they are stressed
Man, poor people are some of the most laidback people I've ever known. People fuck cause they wanna, man.
I'm starting to think you might be stupid, friend.
i have bought a few in the past
desu i go all out on merchandise like keychains or something... i really would like to get some dvds but i like japanese VA and don't know japanese so I'm fucked? dubs are fucking horrible to me, the VA are literally just reading off the text with no emotion.
>you are getting knowledge above your current social status
This is the most elitist fag I've ever seen on /a/
I do support the industry despite being a third world poorfag, I mostly buy artbooks.
>do not have time to love because they can't afford it
tfw I can't afford love
I've been watching anime for over 30 years so I feel I need to respond
actually fuck it. I don't even care
>you just want to masturbate or have something to have sex with, normally you would get a girlfriend or boyfriend
You wouldn't have sex if buying was the only way to obtain it. Thus, right now you don't really like sex at all, just because you got it for free you can enjoy it but otherwise you wouldn't even care about it. You are in denial about thos "hobby", you really don't like it. People who really like sex are the ones who buy the stuff, not get it for free from some boyfriend or girlfriend.
>grow up without cable
>couldn't watch dbz like everyone else
>internet was shit at the time
>had to buy VHS tapes to watch dbz
>over price as fuck
>20 bucks for a 3 episode tape
>can never find the tapes im missing
to this day I've still never seen every episode of dbz there's always a couple of random 3 episode groups in every saga that I haven't watched yet
Yep how many people would even watch this stuff if we had to go to cdjapan and pay 30k¥?
The anime economy is fucked up, always has been.
Anyway cute girl incoming
I like anime but thats because i poured way too much time into this shit.
at least 90....maybe even 95% of all anime is shit. and i think eevn that might be generous.
Normies ask me if there is any good anime and i tell them don't even try. This hobby(lol hobby) requires too much time shifting through shit.
Nips have no idea what makes a good show and good shows only slip through the cracks.
If i had to pay for it I'd nope the fuck out of here after my first show most likely.
Hell even if i got lucky and watched only shows i loved, somehow not getting any i know i'd hate, if even a slice of life showed up i'd most likely drop this shit forever
But luckily, that isnt the world i live in and i can watch shit shows and not shit shows alike all for free.
plus i like jerking off to anime titties(or dfc)
Not that I'm poorfag, I'm just too hesitant to give away my money now. Hell I don't even buy video games or anime that much anymore.
Whatever happened to quality in this world?
Actually, I wouldn't watch anime if there weren't a _convenient_ way to obtain it.
Torrenting is about as convenient as it gets. I get high quality, ad-free video subtitled by groups who are invested in and passionate about the medium. Compared to fansubs, streams are low-quality trash, and ordering physical disks is slow and clunky.
I have no qualms with paying. I haven't pirated a
gamesince Steamcame out and I haven't pirated music since Amazon started providing DRM-free instant downloads.
If there was a format i could buy it in i would totally pay for it. I watched the hell out of toonami when i was a kid.
There is currently no way to get good anime on american tv. Plus everything is a good 3-5 years behind. If it was a week or 2 fine but im not waiting 3-5 years for a series to play catch up.
Buying licensed stuff does nothing to help the industry though. And Japans prices are too high.
Also I was into anime way before I got into pirating. Through stuff like toonami, sci-fi channel, anime network on demand ect. Hell I still remember watching FMP on demand years ago and enjoying it then staying up late to watch Tokko on the sci-fi channel. It was good times.
False equivalency if you're implying "buying" = paying a couple hundred dollars a series to have all BD editions of an anime, and that that's the only way to see it properly by buying.
In actuality Japanese get this shit on their TVs like any other cable programming. "buying" it costs whatever your cable bill does, which often comes bundled in with your internet if you're using cable these days. If this stuff aired exactly like it does there on Western TV I'd probably watch it on TV.
Like any other TV programming you better believe the Japanese DVR the shit out of anime and burn it off the hard drives to keep. They were recording it on programmed VCRs before that. They can also pirate this stuff just as easily as we can.
tl;dr Nips practically have it for free and/or as part of their regular cable programming anyway. They pay exorbitant prices for the BD because they are that die-hard of fans for it. Just because maybe a total pool of 100-200k people in Japan are willing to pay the fucking insane prices for BDs doesn't mean that there aren't millions of people watching the shows for "free" on TV/internet/pirating and just not buying the BDs.