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How the fuck do you pronounce this? Planet ease? Planet us?

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How the fuck do you pronounce this?
Planet ease?
Planet us?
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>>133691956
Planeets
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>>133691956
Planetes you stupid american.
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planet ee
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>>133691956

PURANETESU
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Plan-uh-tez (seriously)
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Greekfag here. It is plan-e (e like the the letter) -tes (like tesla). So planites basically
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πλανήτες
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>>133691956
plan eats
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>>133691956
"The Kekolded strikes back"
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>>133691956
Planetes. It is pronounced Planetes.
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I want to read this but all the scans are shit. Is it worth buying?
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It's just French for planets. the e is silent.
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moot show
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>OP doesn't know Greek
It's planetays
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>>133691956
>Cute girl is in love with you
>MUH JUPITER
>MUH SPACE SHIP

Fucking faggot
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>>133694403
Space is a man's romance.
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>>133694403
She was a literal asshole please don't. If she wants to stick around so badly, she's good to have his child while he lives the dream in space.
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>>133694627
I wouldn't call her an asshole. She was however very annoying. Which was sort of the point in the show. She was less annoying in the manga.
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DROPPED
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>>133692366
That's a pretty bad indicator of how to pronounce it though

Just look at this shit
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Планэтэс
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Pla (as in plastic)
Neet (as in NEET)
Es (as in especially)
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>anniemay
planayyytis
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>>133694871
She made me so mad during that part
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>>133694871
I wouldn't drop it. Keep going it gets better. Although I will concede that Tanabe remains annoying for most of it.
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>>133694403
>>133694627
>>133694784
>being in a relationship
>still reasoning as if there was only you
>missing the whole point of the story
Hurr.
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>>133695007
>>133692555
>>133692317
>>133692026
That's modern greek, idiots.

It's planetes, as you read it.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JrulanY6RD
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>>133695502
You are pronunciation sucks, stop playing smart.
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>>133694403
PTSD does that.
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>>133695502
Pay the debts
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>>133695541
My pronounciation is perfect, stop deluding yourself.
>>133695558
Not greek.
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planet ass
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>>133695363
One of the major themes of the show was even as that humanity has advanced into space, all of our various personal conflicts and problems have followed. Tanabe is young, naive and doesn't realize just how shitty the world can be. Because of this she is annoying. She is a kid who thinks she knows the answers, but doesn't know jack shit. Much of the show is showing that her optimistic view of the world doesn't match up with reality.
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>>133695502
No it's pla (pluh) ne (nay) tes (desu)

PLANETES you dumb fuck
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>>133695715
Certainly not in Greek, being it modern or ancient, idiot. Nor in English.

Are you drunk?
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>>133695631
Keep telling you are self that.
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>>133695807
it is japanese
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プラネテス

PURANETESU

PULANETESU

PLANETES

fucking burgers
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>>133695943
It's supposed to be プラニテス, actually.
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>>133695912
You're definitely retarded.
>>133695888
Pardon?
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>>133696218
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%97%E3%83%A9%E3%83%8D%E3%83%86%E3%82%B9
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>>133696218
>>133696436
No.
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>>133696218
>>133696436
>newfags
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>>133696602
Yeah, planetes, as in >>133695502, your point?
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>>133696487
>>133696560
>>133696602
Yes. That's exactly what I said. The katakana is wrong.
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>>133696667
>>133696668
>ネ
Can you read? It's NE not NI
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>>133696709
Yes. That's exactly what I said. The katakana is wrong.
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>>133696709
Exactly what I said, idiot. In ancient greek is planetes, in modern one is planites.

Are you mentally challenged?
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>>133696778
No, it's not, see >>133696602

Are you dumb?
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>>133696802
...yes, that's exactly what I said. The katakana written there is wrong.
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>>133696786
It's Planetes. Are you dumb?
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>>133696778
No one uses the modern greek spelling. Why would you, unless you spoke modern greek?
>>133696802
That proves nothing, per se, there are two spellings of the same vowel, the eta.
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>>133691956
Retard, it's Manatee.
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>>133696823
>>133696856
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>>133696856
>>133696823
>PuraNEtesu
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>>133696856
Modern and ancient are the same, m8. They're different letters.

>>133696869
>>133696901
Yes. That's exactly what I said. The katakana is wrong.

The katakana written there is wrong.

The katakana written there is not correct.
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>>133696869
>>133696901
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
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>>133696823
It doesn't matter if it's incorrect ancient greek, the name of the manga is what the author made it.
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>>133696933
It's the official name, I don't give a crap if it's correct or not. "Attack on Titan" is Attack on Titan even though it isn't correct. How fucking stupid are you?
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>>133696984
>>133696987
It's still incorrect, you monumental horsecocks. It's not an alternate version or anything, it's just a misspelling.
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>>133691956
>he can't read kana
An hour or two per day for a few days is all you need.
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>>133697035
That doesn't matter, if the author says it's Puranetesu then it's Puranetesu and not Puranitesu
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>>133697088
The author misspelled it. Humans err.
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>>133696933
>Modern and ancient are the same, m8. They're different letters.
ή in ancient greek is pronounced differently as it is pronounced in modern greek.
>>133696984
Haha, yeah, no.
>>133696987
But it's not incorrect, it's correct.


pla.nɛ᷄ː.tɛːs
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>>133697139
No, that's ancient greek.
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>>133697048
English pronunciation:
"Pla" in "Plan"
"Ne" as in the "na" in "nape"
"Tes" as in the name "Tess"

Actual Ancient Greek Pronunciation:
IPA: /plá.nɛː.tes/
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>>133697167
>>133697189
They're entirely different letters and sounds. Ancient already had two ways to say the 'e' sound, it didn't need to steal a third one from another sound.

>>133697196
Ni, not ne.
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>>133697196
no it's

Pla as in "luggage"
Ne as in "never"
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>>133697196
I did not mean to reply to that comment btw. Should have been standalone

>>133697287
Only in Modern Greek, not Ancient Greek. Do you want to see beta be written with a v too?
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>>133691956
Planet es.
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>>133697338
>Do you want to see (insert correct version here, as if it's something outlandish)
Of course I do, I told you not to play smart. The words are different, but the letters themselves aren't.

>>133697321
Ni, not ne. See >>133697287.
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>>133697321
The pronunciation you are giving is emulating the actual Ancient Greek pronunciation. The one I have is the pronunciation you would say if you don't know the Greek pronunciation (i.e. the English pronunciation that is not erudite, the pure English pronunciation without educated/foreign influence)
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This thread is almost as good as the show
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>>133697452
Confused, conflicting or just you still trying to figure out how to pronounce the title the entire time?
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>>133697409
No one cares about modern greek. So no one is going to pronounce that way. No one will call Georgios as Yeoryios
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>>133697515
Except what I just told you is that it's the same, the ancients would still pronounce it Yeoryios. You seem to be filtering just about everything through English misunderstandings.
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>>133697409
No, it's Ne not Ni.
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>>133697559
The letter Η/η is pronounced い, not え.
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This is the only correct pronounciation.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1GNDHX1eiwZ

>>133697287
>They're entirely different sounds
No, only in modern greek.
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>>133697594
Yeah, in modern greek, not in ancient greek, glad we can agree.
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>>133697620
>>133697664
see >>133697409
The words are different, but the letters themselves aren't.
and >>133697287
Ancient already had two ways to say the 'e' sound, it didn't need to steal a third one from another sound.

Don't be thick.
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>>133697594
And ネ is pronounced NI right? Fuck off.
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>>133697858
see
>>133696218
>>133696668
>>133696778
and stop being thick.
>>133696823
>>133696933
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>>133691956
Not this again.
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>>133697881
see
>>133696984
>>133696987
Stop being thick.
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>>133696668
>the manga wrote its own title wrong
No.
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>>133697709
Nigga I've studied ancient greek, never hear of two ways for pronouncing eta and epsilon, it's the same shit.

Try citing something.
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>>133697921
>>133697962
see
>>133697035
>>133697139
and stop parroting people who point out your mistakes.
The title is literally just an ancient Greek word, and the author misspelled it. There's no room for interpretation.
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>>133696867
>only one person mentioned Manatee

we're too old for this shit
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>>133697452
Pretty bad?
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>>133697970
Well, so have I.
>Ancient already had two ways to say the 'e' sound, it didn't need to steal a third one from another sound.
You just tried to convince me that β should be pronounced b instead of v, and γ is g instead of y, do you think you can still be taken seriously?
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>>133697992
Look, if I call my book "Sempa, please notice me," because I'm retarded, and you insist that the title is pronounced "senpai" because that's what the word is, you're not right.
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>>133698049
Never said any of that.
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>>133698016
How old is this meme, exactly?
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>>133698052
If you write a book on brain surgery and name it "How to operate on btains", you obviously made a mistake somewhere. It's not debatable.

>>133698110
Cool story, vro.
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>>133697992
Even the author says it's Planetes you dumb fuck. Stop being thick.
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>>133698190
see >>133698180
and stop parroting me, it makes you look even sillier.
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>>133698180
I made a mistake, but that doesn't mean it's not the title of the book. Unless I rescind it on the second printing or something, the title is btains.
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>>133698180
If there's no trust then you can fuck off.
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>>133698255
And it's still wrong, so if someone points it out you can't say "b-but muh artistic interpretation".

>>133698274
it is to laugh
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>>133698325
> And it's still wrong
Yes, it's the wrong word, but it's still the title. OP isn't asking how to pronounce it because he's going to go talk to Plato and wants to talk about wandering, he's asking how to pronounce it because he wants to know how to pronounce the anime's title.
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>>133698368
So if someone asks you how to pronounce NGE, you'll say "Ebangerion"?

No.
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>>133698239
>>133698180
>>133698049
>>133697992
>>133697709
>Eta (uppercase Η, lowercase η; Greek: Ήτα Hēta) is the seventh letter of the Greek alphabet. Originally denoting a consonant /h/, its sound value in the classical Attic dialect of Ancient Greek was a long vowel [ɛː], raised to [i] in medieval Greek, a process known as iotacism.
>its sound value in the classical Attic dialect of Ancient Greek was a long vowel [ɛː], raised to [i] in medieval Greek, a process known as iotacism
>its sound value in the classical Attic dialect of Ancient Greek was a long vowel [ɛː]
>[ɛː]
Hurr Durr.
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>>133698421
No, because I'm romanizing the Japanese. Your issue is that the Japanese is not the correct Japanese transliteration of the original Greek, which is completely different. If Evangelion had mistakenly used soft "g" in its transliteration, I'd go with that in English, too.
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>>133698428
Native English speakers tend to make a shitload of mistakes, m8. Then they go with it because there's too many of them for the meme to be stopped. The fact stands that
>Ancient already had two ways to say the 'e' sound, it didn't need to steal a third one from another sound.
Ancient and modern are the same.

>>133698485
Well, you're (mistakenly) romanizing the (mistaken) Japanese in this case too.
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>>133697553
>the ancients would still pronounce it Yeoryios
Okay. You're a moron. Literally no one with any intelligence on the matter believes this. To explain it to a moron like you, there is a reason every language that borrowed georgios used g rather than y, b for barbaros rather than v, etc.
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>>133698575
> (mistakenly) romanizing
At no point here have I even cited my romanization, just pointed to the actual katakana, so you have no way of knowing that.

>(mistaken) Japanese
Yes, as I said, that's a moot point that doesn't affect the fact that that mistaken Japanese is the title.
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Puranetes
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>>133698586
That reason being Latin and later English. Stop playing smart with things you're insufficiently educated about.
Why else would they make fun of "varvarians" for using the B sound too much?

>>133698677
Mistakes are mistakes, m8. A mistake due to the Greek-English-Japanese conversion changes is no less of a mistake, and can't be treated as anything else. Humans err, and the author is one, unless I'm wrong.
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>>133698575
Wrong.
>In 403 BC, Athens took over the Ionian spelling system and with it the vocalic use of H (even though it still also had the /h/ sound itself at that time). This later became the standard orthography in all of Greece.

>During the time of post-classical Koiné Greek, the /ɛː/ sound represented by eta was raised and merged with several other formerly distinct vowels, a phenomenon called itacism after the new pronunciation of the letter name as ita instead of eta.

>Itacism is continued into Modern Greek, where the letter name is pronounced [ˈita] and represents the sound /i/ (a close front unrounded vowel). It shares this function with several other letters (ι, υ) and digraphs (ει, οι), which are all pronounced alike. This phenomenon at large is called iotacism.

>Eta was also borrowed with the sound value of [i] into the Cyrillic script, where it gave rise to the Cyrillic letter И.

Where the fuck do you get your facts? Give me a source.

Classic greek eta is "e" and e alone.
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>>133698749
Again, the author making a mistake doesn't mean that's not the title. I'l leave the thread now, though, since we're just going in circles.
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>>133692223
>>133692366
The "u" doesn't pronunciate, so it keeps in pranetes.
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>>133698817
t h i s

>b-but i'm greek so it's planitis ;_;
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>>133698807
>Ancient already had two ways to say the 'e' sound, it didn't need to steal a third one from another sound.
Your English misinterpretations are too widespread to stop, but that doesn't make them correct. You even call it "eta" because English confuses e and i, so you get confused too. It's supposed to be ita (イタ).

>>133698817
Btains.
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>>133698749
>That reason being Latin and later English.
There were multiple languages in antiquity that had both g and y and that borrowed words from Greek directly and they always borrowed gamma as /g/ in every position (pre-Arabic, Persian, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc), beta as /b/ (even the languages that has both b and v, such as Persian), "ai" as "ai" (not e), eu as "eu" (not ef or ev), etc etc.

>Stop playing smart with things you're insufficiently educated about.
Find me one non-Greek source academic source that agrees with you. More importantly, show me that the academic consensus favors your bullshit.

>Why else would they make fun of "varvarians" for using the B sound too much?
It wasn't about the sound of beta, it was about the syllable "bar" and its repitition.
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>>133698934
That's irrelevant, but the fact that you'd dismiss someone being a native speaker as insufficient shows exactly how valuable your opinion is.

>>133699039
Then explain to me why there was a completely separate digraph (γκ) for the G sound. Were there two ways to say G and none to say Y? Or are you just being an idiot?

Also, it was both.
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>>133698960
I'm not English, I'm Italian.
You don't know what you're talking about, you've been proven wrong again and again and never provided a sourfce to your claims once.

ETA IS "E". STOP.
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>>133699136
I forgot to mention another digraph, γγ. So you're saying there were three ways to say G and none to say Y. Sounds legit.

>>133699171
>b-but I said ur wrong, stop being right ;_;
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>>133699136
>completely separate digraph (γκ) for the G sound
Wrong. In Ancient Greek, γκ was not a digraph. It was "ng + g" (IPA ŋɡ ). Neither was "nt" a "d", nor "mp" a "p"; they were nt and mp respectively.

You are pretty much acting like the ancient Greeks were retards when they made the alphabet initially. Only as time went on, culminating with modern Greek, did the letter-sound correspondence become rather fucked up.
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>>133699315
Give me a text that proves your bullshit or fuck off now, this has been dragged for too long.
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>>133699315
In Ancient Greek, γγ was "ng + g". Again, not a digraph.

As further proof, when Ancient Greek borrowed words from other languages that did have a y, Ancient Greek did not use gamma, it used iota. Why? Because Ancient Greek did not have a y sound, so they used the vowel iota to approximate it.
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>>133699537
No, I'm acting like you're a retard, because you're saying what I described in >>133699315, and that's pretty retarded.
Also, why would γκ be needed as two separate letters, when they weren't used at all in that sequence? G, on the other hand, was used.
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>>133696602
>MANATEE
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>>133699633
>>133699631
And when English borrows words from Greek, it replaces all the Vs with Bs. Does that mean English doesn't have a V sound?

Yep, you're retarded.
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Fucking hell anons, look what you did to Tanabe. Are you proud of yourselves?
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>>133699136
>n-n-n-n-no greek this greek that
Nobody gives a crap about your muslim shit. The author says it's プラネテス. PLANETES. PlaNEtes. NE, not NI. Just accept that you can't prove your theory. If you can't understand something so simple I have no more time to waste on you.
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>>133699784
Yes, and the author made a mistake. Keep raging.
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>>133699640
> why would γκ be needed as two separate letters, when they weren't used at all in that sequence
But they were. Again, as proof, if you look at languages that directly borrowed from Ancient Greek words with that letter sequence, they didn't just write "g", they wrote nk, or ngk, or gk (depending on the language) in every position.
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>>133699679
>And when English borrows words from Greek, it replaces all the Vs with Bs. Does that mean English doesn't have a V sound?
Modern English does not borrow any words from Modern Greek, only Ancient Greek.

Second, false argument. Talk all you want about English, what about he language that coexisted with Ancient Greek? They just happened to all make the exact same errors?
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Planet
Es as in ESsay or eyyy ese
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>>133699809
You can't prove your theories at all as always. Can we just stop here or are you just going to keep embarassing yourself?
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>>133699826
Different alphabets, m8. The letters are the same between ancient and modern.

>>133699893
It borrows from both. Unless you're telling me contemporary terms are coined by magically talking to ancients, who are contacted via portals underneath the Acropolis.

Or maybe you're just thick.
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>>133699679
And again, explain to me why Ancient Greek never used gamma in loanwords that originally had a y. Why did Ancient Greek borrow words with b using beta and not "mp"? Explain these
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>>133699809
Never once I've pronounced Eta as "i" in 6 years of ancient greek and neither did my 4 greek professors.

You're wrong, deal with it.
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>>133699978
>b-but I said ur wrong, stop being right ;_;
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>>133700001
You can tell how it sounded from rhyming poetry of the period and later accounts in latin.
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>>133700001
>Unless you're telling me contemporary terms are coined by magically talking to ancients
Ever heard of an Ancient Greek dictionary?

Give me one Greek word people know that is pronounced using modern Greek pronunciation.
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>>133700046
Nigga people that have studied fucking philology of ancient greek texts taught me to say "e", who the fuck are you? You never provided a source, not even once.
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Ayy lmao
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>>133700001
>Different alphabets
A) you are aware words were often acquire by traders verbally communicating, right?
B) So if my alphabet was g and y sounds, I am magically incapable of writing down what the Greek word sounds like in my alphabet because it is different glyphs from yours? Are you retarded?
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>>133693449
Plants?
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>>133700250
Not true
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>>133700027
Simple. To Greek-ify it. Just like 'stomahi' got turned into 'stomach', to English-ify it. That doesn't mean English doesn't have the 'hi' sound.

>>133700043
Your professors were not native speakers of either Ancient or Modern. English has made plenty of mistakes that managed to spread far too wide.
Just because your professors said it doesn't mean it's law, m80.

>>133700102
You heard the ancients speaking live? Amazing.
>latin
k.

>>133700114
I don't think there are many around.

And what does that have to do with anything? Most of them become known via English, which changes too much.

>>133700145
I've studied both, too.

>>133700234
A) Foreign words get corrupted when spoken between natives of another language. Ever thought of that?
B) If it has both, you're supposed to use the correct one.

Look at all these posts. How asspained are you?
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>>133700275
Can you simply tell us HOW you know the ancient greeks pronounced the eta "i"?
What's your source?
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>>133700387
>>133700275
Because, you see, that's what you get taught in every single school around the world, from LA to Moscow, from Rome to Beijing.
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>>133700275
No, faggot, there are rules to poetry and from those rules you can infer what words sounded like. And there are written works in latin by people who have literally heard what it sounds like and left an objective account. You don't need to hear the ancients when you can use your brain.

Just how full of himself can one college freshman be, Jesus.
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>>133700387
If I even need to explain myself to someone who can't tell between G and Y, or B and V, then
>>133697287
>>133697409
The letters haven't changed.

>>133700462
In every English-influenced school there is? Sure.

>>133700476
Latin people who wrote in Latin, for Latin people. What a story, Marcus.
>college freshman
You assume too much.
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>>133700275
https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A0%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%AC_%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82_%CE%BA%CE%BB%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE%CF%82_%CE%91%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B1%CF%82_%CE%95%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B7%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE%CF%82_%CE%B3%CE%BB%CF%8E%CF%83%CF%83%CE%B1%CF%82#.CE.91.CE.BD.CE.B1.CE.BB.CF.85.CF.84.CE.B9.CE.BA.CE.BF.CE.AF_.CF.80.CE.AF.CE.BD.CE.B1.CE.BA.CE.B5.CF.82_.CF.80.CF.81.CE.BF.CF.86.CE.BF.CF.81.CE.AC.CF.82_.CF.84.CF.89.CE.BD_.CE.B1.CF.81.CF.87.CE.B1.CE.AF.CF.89.CE.BD_.CE.B5.CE.BB.CE.BB.CE.B7.CE.BD.CE.B9.CE.BA.CF.8E.CE.BD_.CF.86.CF.89.CE.BD.CE.B7.CE.BC.CE.AC.CF.84.CF.89.CE.BD

read it and weep faggot
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Okay so what's the final verdict? What's the correct way to pronounce "Planetes"?
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>>133700637
Planeetsu
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>>133700529
Are you expecting me to read something that takes Erasmic pronunciation into account and not laugh?

>>133700637
It's >>133695007.
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>>133700637
PuraNEtes

NE as in NEver
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>>133695258
The anime made her extra annoying.
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>>133700637
Pluh-net

The last syllable is silent.
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>>133700275
>That doesn't mean English doesn't have the 'hi' sound.
Are you retarded? Modern Greek χ in στόμαχος is [x], not [h]. English literally doesn't have that sound. Regardless if it is the modern greek or ancient greek, english "k" is the most common approximation of that sound (Arabic "Khalid" has the same sound as modern greek and is also pronounced as k in English)

>English has made plenty of mistakes that managed to spread far too wide.
People disagreed with you way before English became influenctial

>I don't think there are many around.
You're a literal retard or troll right here.

>Most of them become known via English
And where did English get these?

>I've studied both, too.
Maybe in a Greek classroom. Italians also teach latin using italian pronunciation rules. You can't trust that.

>Foreign words get corrupted when spoken between natives of another language. Ever thought of that?
Listen to the retardation you are spouting. You are making the claim that EVERY SINGLE TIME languages borrowed from ancient greek, EVERY SINGLE LANGUAGE made the same exact mistake. Systematically. You are also claiming that EVERY SINGLE TIME ancient greek borrowed words from another language, they also made the same mistake EVERY SINGLE TIME systematically.

Specifcally, you are claiming that EVERY SINGLE TIME they heard another language use y, the ancient greeks EVERY SINGLE TIME made a mistake and used iota instead of gamma.

You're beyond retarded.

>If it has both, you're supposed to use the correct one.
And they usually did.
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>>133700849
We aren't french anon. And certainly the mangaka did not have french in mind.
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>>133701068
>certainly the mangaka did not have french in mind
No, he definitely did, he just made a mistake and wrote it with the wrong alphabet.

Easy mistake for someone not from the West to make.
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>>133701129
But not only did he use an "(n)es(u)" syllable in the Japanese, he deliberately wrote it in Greek.

Not to mention the title does not refer to planets, it refers to (space) wanderers, and only Greek has that meaning.
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>>133701207
No its definitely French. I studied French for years, trust me.
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>>133701002
-His, hermit, hormone, I can think of plenty of words with that sound, which is far closer to the correct version than 'ch'. So that takes care of that.
-People judged things by their own limited experiences, as you're doing now.
-"ur wrong lol" isn't an argument.
-Foreign words get corrupted when spoken between natives of another language. Ever thought of that?
-Again, you make too many assumptions.
-Yes, to Greek-ify it. Just like 'stomahi' got turned into 'stomach', to English-ify it. That sort of thing has conventions. It's not a hard concept to run through your atrophied brain, m8.
-You sure aren't using the correct one now.
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>>133701207
A character on the show even references the old Greek meaning.
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>>133701478
>Foreign words get corrupted when spoken between natives of another language. Ever thought of that?
Repeating something makes it true guy? Can't respond to that guy's arguments?
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This is truly an awful thread, good work /a/.
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>>133702194
That's the answer, guy. The fact that it triggers you doesn't make it less true.
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>>133702247
But like that guy said, you are acting like the same corruption was made all the time (as in, like, a Persian guys "y" is always borrowed into Greek "i" rather than "g"). How you you support that idea?
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>>133702376
Because
>That sort of thing has conventions.
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All this hullabaloo, when people are ignoring the obvious answer: The Japs misspelled 'Planet' and are too embarrassed/indifferent to change it.
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I feel like this is some epic new meme that I missed the inception of.
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>>133702531
It's just a dedicated crank, and people feeding him.
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>>133694871
That was an empty threat and it baffles me how many people miss that. She couldn't fling it back into the atmosphere, at worst it would float off and they'd make her pick it back up herself.
>>133695363
In all fairness, there were a lot of points it made. That was just one of them.

Why can't we have shows like Planetes anymore?
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>>133702484
Not exactly, they confused planet (プラネット) and planetes (プラニテス) resulting in プラネテス.
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I think this is the right webm.
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>>133702458
What do you mean by that? There were no widespread conventions that everyone had in antiquity. And if you think someone how Latin made everyone borrow things wrong, languages borrowed from Greek earlier than latin + it still does not explain why different greek areas did not use gamma for foreign y.
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>Everybody wants to argue about the name
>Nobody wants to argue about the show
Kek
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>>133702484
>The Japs misspelled 'Planet'
What do you mean?
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>>133702843
>tfw you think you're the protagonist and it turns out that you're a side character
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>yfw
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>>133703684
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>>133699670
The only correct person in this thread
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>>133700804
She gets better after she contemplates taking Claire's air as they both slowly suffocate to death.

Just make it past episode 6 and you're golden OP.

After that, read the manga.
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>>133702843
>I love how strong-headed, pure hearted and dedicated this girl is
>I know, I'll try and get her to kek her boyfriend who is also my best friend with me!
He wasn't too bright, was he?
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>>133704746
I never found Tanabe particularly annoying, honestly.
As for anime Tanabe being more annoying than manga Tanabe, she's barely a character in the manga. We get backstory, some feelings about her adoptive parents and a scene or two showing her morals and that's about it for characterization. Oh, and then she goes full autism in the 4th volume, which came out after the series aired.
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>>133703684
Don't remind me.
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>>133691956
プラネテス
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>/a/ - linguistics

January soon
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>>133704835
I don't recall her going full autism in the 4th Volume. Although that's likely because she's not really there for most of it due to all of the chapters focusing on Fee.
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>>133706223
She met a dude that she was immediately convinced was actually an alien, remember?
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>>133706414
You're right. I'd forgotten all about the Baron.
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>>133706908
Lucky you. The last 20 or so pages of volume 4 are fantastic but for the most part it feels like filler, which is a problem considering how goddamn long it is.
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>>133706216
I wonder if we're going to have another Planetes stream. The last one was great because of how many were seeing it for the first time.
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>>133695363
Nice you had nothing to say to back yourself up. I can do it too.

Durrr. Anyway, go back to /v/, okay?
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>>133709976
He has a point, though. Half the reason for the conflict of the second half was that Hachi was thinking purely in terms of 'me' rather than 'us'. He even states as much at one point. If he'd just slowed the fuck down and had a proper conversation with Tanabe about things, it would've gone a lot better for both of them.
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>>133703135
The manga was better.
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>>133700521
Most Latins were perfectly bilingual.

Is this one big, long ruse?
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>>133701002
>Italians also teach latin using italian pronunciation rules
This is wrong, shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>133709976
Thanks for making my morning faggot, I've laughed heartily reading your stupid post, now I can start the day with more enthusiasm.
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>>133710193
I disagree.
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>>133710472
Oh look finally a planetes thread!
It's literally arguing about how to pronounce it.
wtf /a/.
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>>133691956
plah neh tehs

fuck english pronunciation. How you faggots figured that "e" should soun like "i" while "i"should sound like "ayyyyyyy" is beyond me.
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>>133711058
Pretty much my reaction.
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>>133711058
>wtf
This has happened before. Multiple times. Because people have discussed the series to death. This thread has more discussion about the series than you're going to get otherwise. You'd just get a dead thread most of the time.

And it's still better than circlejerking over nothing like all those generalfags. In fact it's a million times better, because I can be glad that my memory of actual discussion is actually good.
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>>133710205
>perfectly bilingual
Don't be stupid bud

Plenty today are perfectly bilingual in English but they don't speak with RP or whatever accent you want to prioritise.

I'm not reading the cluster fuck above but nobody seems to give any reasoning behind why they've used that particular pronunciation, so let's all just accept it's debatable and put the whole thing down to piss poor classical language teaching.
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>>133711291
>Planetes generals
Don't even make me contemplate the horror.
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>>133711058
It's better than no Planetes thread. Try bringing up a topic, anon.
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>>133711058
Still the most intelligent thread on /a/.
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>>133703122
They had an entirely different way to spell the G sound.
>it still does not explain why different greek areas did not use gamma for foreign y.
That's exactly what it explains, genius, they used the same conventions for every word they imported. Just like English does.
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>>133710268
Not him, but it's true.
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>>133711593
First you're wrong, I've provided plenty of proof already.
Second I din't think you know what you're talking about, Latins had greek slaves that usually were teachers and they spoke greek since they were born, they were bilingual, they didn't simply speak two languages.
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>>133714520
First of all, convention Los did not exist. Did you think uneducated foreigners who were illiterate could know of or would follow convention even if it existed? You are saying its convention, but conventions start someway. How can you believe that everyone who borrowed from each other all messed the first time? Give me another language that everyone borrows incorrectly from.

By the way, if you were right, that means ancient Greeks went full retard with the alphabet, having multiple letters for the same sound. The only languages that do that are ones after having made their alphabet developed sound changes, but here you were saying the Greeks were retards
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>>133714607
It's not, some might do, not everyone. Stop generalizing.
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itt murrikans trying to speak another language.
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This fucking thread I swear

Peel - nate - ease
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>>133714900
Sure, not all of them. But enough do that I think it can be cited as an example. I'm sure some Greek teachers of Ancient Greek use ancient rather than modern pronunciation of Ancient Greek too, but many don't
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>do you copy
i bet you fags don't
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One of the NASA guys they interviewed on the DVD extras pronounces it right.

Get that vid, and you have your canon answer.
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>>133691956
>es = ease/us
how the fuck?

this >>133692101
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play-neeties
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>>133715038
AI COPII DESU

Tragically, I have misplaced THAT picture. You know the one.
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Prounounced just like the word "planets" in English, anon. Really not difficult.
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>>133715075
>>133714978
you're a fucking moron

it's this >>133695943
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>>133715039
I've never seen that DVD bonus, what do the NASA guys have to say? Almost sounds like a peer review, considering that JAXA consulted on the show during production.
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>>133714974
Gosh anon that's not nice, everyone have their own difficulties in life.
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>>133715213
>He couldn't even keep it topical
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>>133715277
Sorry, it's still on my backlog.
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>>133714978
In case, people can't see it. This is the real pronunciation.

Ignore the bait
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>>133715307
Go watch it already, it was moot's official favorite anime and pretty much the best thing ever. Also, you're in a thread for it.
Quite honestly, what are you doing in this thread?
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>>133715016
Just stop, I'm Italian and I've studied both latin and greek, they teach the correct pronounciation.
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>>133715326
Just wanted to make fun of burgers. I'm getting to it anon, don't worry.
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>>133715355
Improve your reading comprehension. Nothing of what you said contradicts me, and previously you acknowledged that some in fact do as I said.

And you can look it up by the way that this happens.
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>>133715307
Only excuse is if you're underage.
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>>133715355
>Just stop
>>>reddit
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>>133711593
I'm >>133714860
This is my proof >>133698807 >>133698428
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>>133715627
Never been there.
I have insight on the matter, he's just someone who generalizes.
>>133715548
That's not what I meant, what I meant is that, as for every context, there are people who do things in the wrong way. The same is true for every country, if anything the teaching of ancient Greek and Latin in Italy is SUPERIOR to almost all the other countries.
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>>133714865
Convention among Greeks borrowing foreign words did exist, dumbass. Also, I repeat,
>They had an entirely different way to spell the G sound.
And yes, they did have multiple letters for the same sound, albeit with small differences. Omicron and omega? Eta (ita), iota and ypsilon? Ever heard of those?
Why are you trying to argue about something when you lack fundamental knowledge? Is it ebin?

>>133714978
>>133715075
see >>133695007
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>>133716519
The Eta is pronounced tha same way as the Epsilon in ancient greek, it's not "ita", that pronounciation is wrong.

How long must this shit continue?
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>>133716674
>>133716674
>Eta is pronounced tha same way as the Epsilon in ancient greek
No, actually they were two different e-type sounds, both distinct from iota
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>>133691956
you pronounce it planetes
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I always pronounced it like something between "pla-nehts" and "pla-neyts" because it looked like french but apparently that was super wrong. Good anime regardless.
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>>133694935
That's correct you idiot.
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I always pronounce it as
Planet-tess
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you stupid fucks
pla : planet
ne : oni-chan
tes: test
end of story everything different than this is wrong
/thread
protip its written in my language.
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>>133718855
>oni-chan
No, it's PlaNEtes as in Onee-chan. Are you dumb?
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>>133718855
Greek? Planetes is greek. It's pronounced Pla-ni-tess.
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>>133718945
YES YOU RETARD THE "NI" PART OF THE ONI-CHAN.
ITS PRETTY SELF-EXPLAINATORY.
IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO CLARIFY THIS THEN YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM.
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You could've emailed the mangaka, OP. That's what i did.
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Holy shit. Did I dive in the past? What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Why did no one post THOSE images?
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>>133691956
Pla-MAY-RO
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>>133719334
That's a good question. We're missing all the obligatory ones.
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>>133716674
Are you serious? Next you'll tell me that omicron and omega were two entirely different sounds.
I hope you're not expecting me to take you seriously after you demonstrated your ignorance on such fundamental matters.
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Talk about Planetes you faggots.
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>>133720171
That ship set sail long ago.
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>>133719919
>omicron and omega were two entirely different sounds.
They were two distinct o-type sounds
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>>133714860
>Latins had greek slaves that usually were teachers and they spoke greek since they were born, they were bilingual, they didn't simply speak two languages.
Which dialects of Greek did they speak? For example Diogenes was born and grew up in Ionian Sinope and then spent his middle adult life in Attic Athens. The old guard Spartans spoke Doric Greek, Alexander spoke Macedonian that was similar to Greek but the Attics disowned for a long time, and Homeric greek was yet another literary dialect. I'll give you that there's rudimentary discussion of dialect but it's copy pasted or maybe at best paraphrased from a book or rote or something. Poor teaching, poor learning.

But anyway, to say we can know a sound from how it rhymes with so many different dialects and pronunciations is nonsense. Even if we can agree on for example Attic greek as being the dialect par excellence, how Greeks spoke in oration was different to how they spoke in the agora. You can read it in Plato's Apology, you can see it in ancient Greek works of poetics or rhetoric or grammar. The language of oration is different to day to day greek. Even if we assume that the Latins were incredible at transcribing the phonetics of the Greek they heard (probably not great) we don't know what kind of Greek or w/e was being used and at best we get a hodge podge.

On the other hand, Ancient Egyptian remained similar enough to Church Coptic that Church Coptic could be used to translate hieroglyphs somewhat. This might seem insane but it goes to show the power of oral language staying somewhat consistent, so the other guy saying "I speak Greek now" is not necessarily that bad an argument. It's not great but then neither is the "my classics profs said so". At best we can say it's really such an academic point that it's pointless to argue about it.
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>>133719919
It's just a long epsilon, fuck off.
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>>133723608
>what is the koinè?

I'm never going to say "Athina", I'm sorry.
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>>133718855
>ne, oni-chan
Shiteru?
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>>133719020
he's saying it's NE instead of NI you idiot
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>>133721518
Micron=small, mega=big. Same sound, different length.

>>133723635
>Stop being right ;_;
no

>>133723815
And he's wrong.
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>>133702689
>>133705621
>>133695943
It's greek pronounced in the queen's english and spelt in katakana in japanese because that's how japanese pronounce foreign languages

So プラネテス pla-ne-tes is correct if you're refering to the title of the show and not the greek word it was named after.

Basically if the title has a japanese katakana spelling then that's how you read it. You read it in japanese and not the original language.
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>>133723913
>Same sound, different length
The same is valid for the Epsilon and the Eta.

What's your problem?
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>>133723913
Sorry but no.
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>>133723969
Btain.

>>133723991
Then how do you explain the 'ai' digraph?
>Ancient already had two ways to say the 'e' sound, it didn't need to steal a third one from another sound.

>>133724237
Sorry if it triggers you, but yes.
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>>133724543
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>133724543
Not even british, it's just how foreign languages are pronounced in japanese, and since we're talking about the japanese anime, the original greek pronounciation is meaningless.
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>>133724934
Actually having arguments does.

>>133725460
This has nothing to do with Britain, genius. Read the thread.
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>>133725543
You are very upset right now. I recommend you go take a nap, because you're just repeating yourself after being proven wrong multiple times.

ネ = NE

Provide source on your theories or lose.
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>>133726245
He can't, sasuga shitposter
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>>133726245
>>133726844
>omg y u so buttpained pls stop having arguments ;_;
I see you're as dumb as the guy who had to be told
>>133696778
>>133696823
>>133696933
three times in a row to get it.

ネ is wrong, and you're retarded for not getting that after all this.
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>>133727701
Again, provide source or lose. The author named his manga Planetes (プラネテス), not Planetis.
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>>133727963
For the fifth (5th) time: the katakana is wrong. Is it really such a hard concept to grasp?
And "Planetis" doesn't mean anything, it's プラニテス.
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>>133728228
You must have read a different manga then. This is a Planetes thread.
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I dont get it. Are we arguing whether i or e provides the correct sound for the word?
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>>133728733
>>133692366
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>>133728846
I know how it is pronounced.
The thread seems like 2 anons arguing which one is superior in greek linguistics
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Threads like these reminds me of the debates where people argue if it's a moon jump, a bounce house, or a bounce castle.
(It's obviously a bounce house, get over yourselves)
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>>133728620
>>133728846
Yes, and for the sixth time, the author got it wrong.

I wonder how many times I'll have to repeat the exact same thing until you get it.
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>>133729097
Again, if you can't provide source then I have no more time to waste on you.
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>>133728983
But it looks like a castle, therefore Bounce Castle
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>>133729343
By all means, run away. You won't change the fact that it's the letter Η/η, which is pronounced い and not え.

Unless you need a seventh time to figure it out. Do you?
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>>133729744
Are you saying castles can't be houses?
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>>133725543
then what does >>133724543
>Btain.
even mean?

and did you even read what i wrote? it's how the japanese breakdown foreign languages in katakana.
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>>133729097
Who the fuck are you to say the author is wrong? It's his manga retard, and if that's the way he wants to pronounce it then that's the way it's going to be read.

This isn't a manga about the greek word planetes you autistic burger. Are you too stupid to even realise this?
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>>133728983
the castle of lord bounce?
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>>133729826
There is no need to be upset. Just accept it and move on.
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>>133730182
Ctrl+f, son. Use it.

>>133730245
Same for you, although you're probably samefagging. Which is ironic, since

>>133730350
>umad lololol ;_;
this is not too convincing.
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>>133728983
space jump you little shit
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Verdict?
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>>133731184
>>133695007, or you can look up how a native speaker pronounces it on youtube.
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>>133731184
プラネテス (Planetes)
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>>133730890
Who the hell calls it a space jump?
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>>133731184
But don't trust >>133731961, it's the Japanese mispronunciation.
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>>133730445
>btain
you're analogy is wrong you idiot because プラネテス is not WRONG

it's the japanese way of pronouncing and then writing foreign languages in katakana

like i said you didn't even read what i wrote or you're just too stupid to comprehend it
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>>133732116
it's not a mispronounciation fool, it's how the japanese read foreign languages using english pronounciation and converting it into katakana >>133723969
how many times must i repeat this
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>>133732492
>>133732587
He's obviously baiting.
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>>133732492
>>133732587
No, it's not a "way" to do anything, because it's not a standard word. It's not on any dictionaries. It's an one-time mistake.
Did you understand that, or will I need to repeat it 6-7 times again, to give your atrophied brain time to start working?
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>>133732492
>>133732587
>>133732704
And one post is enough, unless you're trying to amuse me by acting so desperate.
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>>133732781
what kind of argument is that? i'm replying to multiple posts you idiot
you can't even come back with a proper argument besides
>lol it's wrong because i don't understand how japanese language works
you're the desperate one here
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>>133732896
Sure you are, son. And do you consider "lol ur wrong" an argument? Because that's all you're doing, and your arguments are as laughable as your punctuation. Keep squirming.
>It's not a standard word. It's not on any dictionaries. It's an one-time mistake.
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>>133732734
>it's not a standard word
that's the point i'm trying to make you idiot, that's how japanese katakana-ize foreign words, it's the correct way to do it in japanese, not a mistake

only stupid foreigners like you trying to tell the japanese how they should use their own language can't understand a simple concept such as this

also
>complains about multiple posts
>then makes multiple posts himself
desperate much?
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>>133733007
i never said "lol ur wrong", that's what you've been doing
i've been telling you how the japanese katakana works
>complaining about punctuation
kek nice strawman, desperate much?
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>>133733021
>>133733055
No, they don't, otherwise "Nick" would be katakana-ized as ネック. See how retarded you are?
>b-but that's different-
No.

And I said both posts are mine, you're just samefagging. Huge difference, although I don't expect a special needs kid to get it.

lern2punctuation and capitalization before you try to play smart about language, kid.
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>>133733157
>>133733157
>otherwise "Nick" would be katakana-ized as ネック
because they don't katakana-ize base on spelling but on pronounciation you idiot
read >>133723969 again

>>133733157
>And I said both posts are mine, you're just samefagging
and i also said both posts are mine, how is it any different from you? >>133732896
hypocrite much?

>another strawman argument
kek

let's recap
-me
>explain how japanese katakana-naize by prouncing foreign words in english and then converting them into katakana

-you
>but that's wrong
>>133733007
>And do you consider "lol ur wrong" an argument? Because that's all you're doing
>hypocritical arguments
>multiple strawman arguments about punctuation and capitalization

keep digging yourself into a deeper grave while you're at it
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>>133733578
Yes, pronunciation. Which is not プラネテス but プラニテス. The former is wrong. 間違ってる. Do you understand now? Or do I need to tell you a ninth (九th) time, hmm?

Funny how you say "digging yourself deeper"; you're trying to play smart about language, while being unable to use basic functions of language such as capitalization and punctuation. So you're doing exactly what you just said.

You're good as a jester, but not as a poster.
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>>133733822
except planetes is prounced as pla-ne-tes in english and thus プラネテス

>more strawman arguments
that's what kids do when they can't win, as well as being hypocrites

>>133729097
>Yes, and for the sixth time, the author got it wrong.
>>133733007
>And do you consider "lol ur wrong" an argument? Because that's all you're doing, and your arguments are as laughable as your punctuation. Keep squirming.

keep squirming
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>>133733908
>english
Are you retarded? How exactly does English figure into this? It's a Greek word borrowed by a Japanese. I repeat: are you retarded?

And thanks for parroting my words, you're showing that you can't come up with anything worth repeating. Also learn what a strawman is, describing exactly what you're doing isn't one.
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>>133734316
because that's how it was converted, that's why it's プラネテス and not プラニテス
come on must i really explain this?

>>133734316
>Also learn what a strawman is, describing exactly what you're doing isn't one.
>>133733822
>capitalization and punctuation
and how does capitalization and punctuation relate to translating foreign words into katakana? oh wait it doesn't, looks like a strawman to me

Educate yourself, son.

also still
>>133734316
>you're showing that you can't come up with anything worth repeating
are you talking about yourself?
>>133733822
>The former is wrong
>>133733007
>And do you consider "lol ur wrong" an argument? Because that's all you're doing, and your arguments are as laughable as your punctuation. Keep squirming.

just stop it, you're just proving further how much of a retard you are
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>>133693449
>It's French
Which is totally why the series title is written in Greek script, yes?
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>>133734575
Converted from Greek to Japanese, care to explain how English factors into this?
Go on, I'm waiting.
(And it's transliteration, not translation.)

And are you seriously defending your lack of capitalization and punctuation? You're trying to tell me how to use a language, when you can't even use the basics? I repeat, are you serious?

If you are, you're a monumental retard.
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>>133728983
>moon jump
Is this some retarded regional shit like how Southerners call all soft drinks "coke" or how Wisconsiniggers call drinking fountains "bubblers?"
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>>133734696
>care to explain how English factors into this?
like i just said in the post you quoted, the title is プラネテス and not プラニテス, and how do you pronounced planetes in english? pla-ne-tes

are you going to tell me "you're wrong" again like how you've been using that as an argument against every other post you've replied to? because you know as you said so yourself it's not an argument
>>133733007
>And do you consider "lol ur wrong" an argument? Because that's all you're doing

>Keep squirming.

>>133734696
>And are you seriously defending your lack of capitalization and punctuation? You're trying to tell me how to use a language, when you can't even use the basics? I repeat, are you serious?
>another strawman
i never defended it, did you fail comprehension? i said it was a strawman. you understand what a strawman is right? i've explained it in the post you just quoted
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PlaNEETs
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>>133734909
Planetes is a Greek word, not an English one. Still waiting for you to tell me where English factors into this. Go on.

And no, telling you that you're proving yourself to be untrustworthy (and a retard) with your ongoing actions is not a strawman. It's the painful truth.
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Greek anon, Greek has changed over time. eta used to be pronounced as an e sound. Only in more modern Greek is it an i sound. This is academic consensus around the world. Even Greek scholars accept this.

The Japanese author chose the Ancient Greek pronunciation, not the modern Greek. It is as simple as that.
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>>133735133
You already tried that, and showed that you didn't know what digraphs (namely, ai) are. Not exactly convincing.

>>133735182
E-penis. Someone who can't even punctuate gets told, he resorts to NO U and pretending to be retarded so he doesn't have to admit he's wrong.
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>>133735182
And to think, you missed the great derails of the Grammar Nazis.
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>>133735095
look how many different ways do you want me to tell you this, yes it's a greek word but the manga isn't called プラニテス, so the only other explaination is that プラネテス is derived from the english pronounciation

>lack of capitalization and punctuation
>means that
>you're proving yourself to be untrustworthy
LOL what are you even smoking now? what has trustworthiness have ANYTHING to do with this jesus

i said it's a strawman because it has no relation to the argument at hand
maybe you should
>learn what a strawman is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

really man, your arguments are getting more and more hilarious
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>>133735241
son, you're the one doing the "NO U"s here
on top of being a hypocrite and making strawmans
>>133735241
>so he doesn't have to admit he's wrong.

everything you said just applies to you
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>>133735331
There *is* no such thing as an English pronunciation, you monumental retard, because the word doesn't exist in English. Planets does, planetes doesn't.

Explain to me how English is relevant.

You're trying to tell me how language works, so you want your "arguments" to be trustworthy. It doesn't get more relevant. Do I have to teach you basic logic along with grammar?

Explain to me how trustworthiness doesn't count when you're trying to pretend you're an expert.

I'm waiting.

>>133735399
And one post is enough, you're just being pathetic.
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>>133735241
>You already tried that, and showed that you didn't know what digraphs (namely, ai) are. Not exactly convincing.
This is my first post anon. Also, ai is a digraph only in modern Greek. In Ancient Greek it was a phonic sequence of alpha plus iota. Also, please respond to the fact that academic consensus believes eta used to be an e type sound.
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>>133735241
>E-penis
>mfw
>>133735182
>is actually refering to >>133735241
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>>133735457
Sure it's your first post. And no, it's widely used in ancient too, as an article among other things.
If you're referring to that list that actually takes something as ridiculous as Erasmic "pronunciation" into account, then you'll have to try harder.

>>133735468
Third post in a row? Now you're getting desperate.
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>>133728983
It's a bounce house (or bouncy house) unless shaped like a castle, in which case bounce (or bouncy) castle would be more appropriate.
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>>133735451
>Explain to me how English is relevant.
i just did, you didn't accept it because your argument is "NO U"

>>133735451
>You're trying to tell me how language works, so you want your "arguments" to be trustworthy
and once again, what has capitalization and punctuation have anything to do with trustworthiness?

>>133735451
>Explain to me how trustworthiness doesn't count
i never said it doesn't count, i said capitalization and punctuation have no relation to it. did you fail reading comprehension again or is this another strawman

come on, we're just going in circles with your "i'm right you're wrong", hypocrisy and strawman arguments

maybe you should just write your own プラニテス manga and go tell the author of プラネテス he's wrong instead of trying to tell anons on the internets we're all wrong
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>>133735589
>accusing people of samefagging
desperation in progress
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>>133735627
Show me an English dictionary that contains the word "planetes". Go on, I'm waiting.
Tell me how being worthless at something makes you an authority. Go on, I'm waiting.
Also, you never responded to the Nick thing. Guess the logic bomb was too much for you.

>>133735665
You can at least make it look like a different person with some punctuation and capitalization. You're not fooling anyone, although you are being a lolcow.
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>>133735457
>academic consensus believes
Dinosaurs had feathers. Sorry I had to do that.
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>>133735736
i never said planetes was an english word, i said it was pronounced in english. it doesn't have to be an english word to be pronounced in english. did you fail reading comprehension?

when ever did i say i was an authority? did you fail reading comprehension?

but i did respond to the nick thing, read the first 3 lines >>133733578 did you fail reading comprehension?

with all your reading comprehension problems, you're proving yourself to be untrustworthy (and a retard)
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>>133735589
>And no, it's widely used in ancient too, as an article among other things.
I never said written alpha + iota was never used in Ancient Greek. I said that in Ancient Greek, it was not pronounced as a digraph, it was pronounced as the sum of the two letters as expected.

>If you're referring to that list that actually takes something as ridiculous as Erasmic "pronunciation" into account, then you'll have to try harder.
Are you saying that all the academic linguistic professionals in the whole world are unable to get over tradition and be objective in their research?

Also, may I ask a few questions? Let's assume you were correct and Ancient Greek was pronounced like modern. Why did the Greeks then invent an alphabet with more than one way to represent the same sound? Why did they use epsilon in some cases, and "ai" in others for example? And what about the aspiration mark on words like the Greek spelling of "Harmonia"? If that was not showing an h sound, then what was its function? And what about the digamma letter that came to be no longer pronounced and dropped in latter spelling?

Please take the time to explain these
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>>133735892
It's not "pronounced" in English, it's only interpreted. It's only pronounced in the language it exists in, which is Greek. Not English. English is irrelevant. So, where's that dictionary entry? I'm still waiting.

You're trying to convince me that your retarded commentary is true, aren't you? You need trustworthiness there. Or are you just trying to convince me you're retarded? You're succeeding there, at least.

Also, parroting everything I say only proves me right, keep doing it.

>>133735956
See >>133716519. If you don't even know that there were, indeed, multiple ways to write (almost) the same sound, like omicron and omega, what makes you worth talking to? You lack fundamental knowledge.
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>>133736065
>It's not "pronounced" in English, it's only interpreted
that's what you call pronounciation, son

also
>English is irrelevant
how can english be irrelevant if the title is interpreted in english?

>going back to the dictionary thing again
once again i repeat myself, i did not say it was an english word, of course it wouldn't be in a dictionary
what part of
>>133735892
>it doesn't have to be an english word to be pronounced in english
what part of this can you not comprehend?

>Also, parroting everything I say only proves me right, keep doing it.
except you're doing the things you're arguing against, that's called hypocrisy, son

i know what, why don't you create a thread about プラニテス cause this thread is obviously talking about プラネテス
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>>133736065
>multiple ways to write (almost) the same sound, like omicron and omega
But anon, I said that, assuming you are correct about this, why did the Greeks make redundant letters. That was the question I asked. You have not answered it yet.

You have also not responded to any of the other things I said. Please do.
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>>133736250
It's not an English word, tard. Unlike 'planet'. Also, look at the cover in >>133696602, do you see the title in English there? No, it's irrelevant. It's not in a dictionary, and it's not part of anything official. This is about a Greek word and its mistaken Japanese interpretation.
English is irrelevant, and you're completely and persistently retarded.

As I said, keep parroting my words. It makes me look much better in comparison.
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>>133736325
Because, as I said in that post and you apparently failed to read, they represented similar but slightly different sounds.
Now, you'll have to prove why someone as fundamentally ignorant as you is worth talking to.
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>>133736065
>>133736325
To clarify, I don't just mean redundant letters. I mean why would they use alpha + iota as a digraph for the sound epsilon makes. Why didn't they just use epsilon for every case of e, and alpha + iota for any cases of the a+i ? Why make digraphs at all?
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>>133736417
see >>133736408
If you don't even know how digraphs work, how can you expect me to find value in anything you say?
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>>133736408
"ai" and epsilon" are exactly the same though in modern greek (and apperantly ancient greek according to you). So is epsilon + upsilon & epsilon + phi/beta for example. They have the same exact pronunciation now, and thus according to you, the same pronunciation in Ancient times.

Another notable example is how the sound of iota is exactly the same as ει, οι, & υι in Modern Greek (and thus according to you, Ancient Greek).

Explain these.

And please actually answer the questions I asked in >>133735956 this time please.
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Pluh nay tess
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>>133736507
>If you don't even know how digraphs work
A digraph is when two letters, instead of representing the sequence of the two letter, represent one sound. I get that.

What I am asking you is why, when the greek invented their alphabet, did they, in addition to using epsilon to represent the e sound, they also for some reason redundantly use alpha + iota, which is exactly the same.

Evvven if you are claiming they were not exactly the same, why did the Greeks not make an entirely new single letter to represent the other sound instead of making two letters represent one?
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>>133736369
>It's not an English word
>>133736250
>once again i repeat myself, i did not say it was an english word
you are truly amazing at reading comprehension

i'm not parroting your words, i'm pointing out the errors in your arguments, pretending not to comprehend this so you can make strawman arguments is just pathetic and extremely obvious

look, all you've been doing these past few posts are twisting my arguments, being hypocritical, and making strawmans
you're obviously getting desperate
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>>133691956
Shit.
Just kidding i actually liked Planetes.
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>>133736610
>>133736700
'eu' can be both 'ev' and 'ef', as opposed to either of them. They made them for the same reason any language makes digraphs, or other #graphs; convenience.

>exactly the same
And that's not what I said, I just said
>they represented similar but slightly different sounds.
There's your answer. You lack fundamental knowledge about digraphs, you can't even read two posts up, how do you expect to be taken seriously?

>>133736709
If it's not an English word, then how exactly is English relevant in any conceivable way, you utter retard? I'm waiting for you to tell me. Go on.
And yes, you're parroting exactly what I say, including
>>133732781
>>133735589
>desperate

自爆乙.
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>>133736840
>then how exactly is English relevant in any conceivable way
because like i said in >>133735892
>i never said planetes was an english word, i said it was pronounced in english. it doesn't have to be an english word to be pronounced in english
the relevancy is in how the author pronounced planetes in english as pla-ne-tes and then translated it into katakana プラネテス
i have repeated this multiple times in multiple ways

you see? you just refuse to read my arguments and instead keep trying to twist them
i never once said planetes is an english word but you keep saying i did

you either failed to comprehend what i'm saying or you're just getting desperate, pick one

>And yes, you're parroting exactly what I say, including
because you are acting the exactly that way
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>>133736840
Why do you refuse to answer the other questions?

>They made them for the same reason any language makes digraphs, or other #graphs; convenience.
No language makes digraphs for convenience. All languages that make an alphabet have one-letter-one-sound. How is writing two letters for one sound sensical or easier? Languages that make their own alphabet don't have digraphs in the beginning. Only sound change makes that happen (look up monophthongization).

Look, imagine you were making the alphabet, and you have two sounds - the epsilon sound, and something similar. Why would I not make seperate letters for both? Why would I make one of them a single new letter, and the other two old letters (instead of also a single new letter)?

Also, I don't think you speak modern greek now. ι, ει, οι, & υι are all exactly the same sound in Modern greek. There is literally no difference between them.
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>>133737076
because he can't, look at the way he's been arguing, he can only nitpick at arguments and try to twist them or make strawman arguments on top of being a hypocrite making arguments he just told people not to use
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>>133737041
It's not "pronounced" in English. The word planets is pronounced, planetes is interpreted. There *is* no such thing as an English pronunciation, unless you show me a dictionary entry. Which you can't.

Did you get that? Want me to repeat it again?
And by all means, keep parroting my words. It only shows that yours aren't worth repeating.

>>133737076
I literally just answered them.
>they represented similar but slightly different sounds.
There's your answer. (And yes, I know it's the same in modern.)
Now answer what I asked in >>133736840.
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>>133737173
>There *is* no such thing as an English pronunciation
so you're saying foreign words can't be pronounced in english?
do you know how wrong you are?

also you never answered how trustworthiness is related to capitalization and punctuation, answer that punk
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I pronounce it as Planets
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>>133737246
They can be interpreted, correctly or not, but there's no official "pronunciation" involved. The only official one is the original language's, and the English "version" carries no weight in anything.

Understood, or should I repeat it again?

>capitalization and punctuation
-are parts of language
-you're trying to convince me you're right about language
-you're failing at language
-therefore what you're saying is wrong.

What part don't you understand, son?
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>>133737173
>I know it's the same in modern.
>they represented similar but slightly different sounds.
This is a contradiction. I am saying ι, ει, οι, & υι are all exactly the same. Do you disagree and claim there actually is a slight distinction between all four?

Or are you saying that in Modern greek they are the same, but in Ancient Greek, they were all distinct single vowels? If so, give me the ipa of each vowel
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It's been a whole fucking day. You guys spent an entire day arguing over nothing. You are one day closer to the grave and you wasted it with this. I'm legitimately sad for you, please value your life a little more.
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>>133737330
>English "version" carries no weight in anything.
then explain how プラネテス came about

>>capitalization and punctuation
>-are parts of language
>-you're trying to convince me you're right about language
>-you're failing at language
>-therefore what you're saying is wrong.
>What part don't you understand, son?
and how is all that related to how the title is pronounced?
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>>133737173
>And by all means, keep parroting my words. It only shows that yours aren't worth repeating.
>Quoting as an example means that he's right
KEK
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>>133737401
Yes, same in modern, *slightly* different in ancient. We don't know exactly how, but we do know that >>133723913.
And you don't get to ask for anything until you respond to >>133736840
>You lack fundamental knowledge about digraphs, you can't even read two posts up, how do you expect to be taken seriously?

>>133737440
see >>133702689
Understood now? Or will I have to repeat this one ten times as well?
>and how is all that related to how the title is pronounced?
It means your retarded, argument/punctuation/capitalization-less opinion is worth nothing.
>>133737515
And keep your whining in one post, it's pathetic.

>>133737431
see >>133735241
E-penis is more important the younger you are. They *really* don't want to admit they're wrong.
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>>133737552
>>133702689
looks like english to me

>>133737552
>E-penis is more important the younger you are. They *really* don't want to admit they're wrong.
talking about yourself? because you know the title is still planetes
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>>133737552
>It means your retarded, argument/punctuation/capitalization-less opinion is worth nothing.
and how is that related to how the title is pronounced? as far as i can see the title is still プラネテス
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>>133737552
>And you don't get to ask for anything until you respond to >>133736840
But I did. Which part did I not respond to? And by the way, I asked my questions before you asked yours in that post, so you should be answering me first.

If you mean that green text, I already responded, so I don't know what you are asking me to respond to.

>We don't know exactly how, but we do know that >>133723913.
Who is "we"? Because the scholars claim they do know, but apperantly you disagree.
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>>133737653
Planetes is Greek, not English, dumbass. I could write πλανητες, but that would create confusion.

>>133737711
see >>133727701

>>133737745
You didn't tell me why someone who made as many fundamental mistakes as you is worth talking to. I'm waiting.
>Who is "we"?
Everyone who knows what 'micron' and 'mega' mean, genius.
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Meanwhile the spanish speakers are sitting there, dumbfounded, as they do not understand what is so hard about looking at letters and pronouncing them
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>>133737827
it may be wrong, but it's still pronounced in english, that's why it became ネ and not ニ
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>>133737827
>ou didn't tell me why someone who made as many fundamental mistakes as you is worth talking to. I'm waiting.
What mistake did I make? Point out an example from before that post.

Or do you automatically consider everyone who disagrees with you wrong and thus not worth talking to?

>Everyone who knows what 'micron' and 'mega' mean, genius.
I never disagree omega and omicron are different sounds (that is the academic consensus actually). I was talking about that iota stuff.
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>all these retarded arguments about pronounciation and what is right and wrong
>people are still going to pronounce it in english anyways according to the katakana
>nothing greek poster can do about it besides spam the thread with EVERYONE'S WRONG I'M RIGHT
talk about e-peen
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>>133737827
>piaavntec
Sure m8, that's definitely how you pronounce planetes.
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>>133737932
It's what I said in >>133702689.
プラネット(English)
プラニテス(Greek)
プラネテス(Erroneous mixup)
I think it's simple enough, even for you.
>>133738126
And one post is enough. Also, as I told you, you assume too much.

>>133738033
>You lack fundamental knowledge about digraphs, you can't even read two posts up, how do you expect to be taken seriously?
Also, we know what psilon from ypsilon means, so that at least is clear. You can stop pretending to be relevant now.

>>133738136
Is that humor?
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>>133738169
>プラネテス(Erroneous mixup)
that's pronounced in english
what part of this can you not comprehend?
stop pushing your greek agenda because it's always going to be planetes, in ENGLISH
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>>133738169
>Also, we know what psilon from ypsilon means
What does that have to do with anything? I am taking about iota.

>You lack fundamental knowledge about digraphs
Where? Prove it

>you can't even read two posts up, how do you expect to be taken seriously?
You can't even answer peoples questions. You ignored like 70% of the questions I asked you because they are inconvenient for you. I have answered every question of yours in detail, and in turn you just spout ad hominem
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>>133738314
No, プラネット is English. プラネテス is nothing, unless you can find a dictionary entry with it. English is utterly irrelevant to this, no matter how many fits you throw. It's between Greek and Japanese. English is irrelevant.

Irrelevant.

>>133738366
-We know about one 'i', so we can more or less assume about the others.
-See the posts where I first said it. Like >>133736065.
-You failed to answer mine, and then you keep demanding more. I repeat: why should I take someone as fundamentally ignorant as you seriously?
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>>133738555
>プラネテス is nothing
that's why everyone refers to the show as planetes in english right and not the actual greek spelling?
do you see anyone other than your dumbass calling the show planites?
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>>133738651
Because English is inconsistent, and 'ne' can be pronounced ニ (like in 'near'). The correct pronunciation doesn't change.
See? I taught you English, too.
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>>133728983
gas chamber
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Guys, the Greek faggot is fucking with you, stop falling for his retardation
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>>133738808
see >>133738169
>And one post is enough. Also, as I told you, you assume too much.
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>>133738750
>'ne' can be pronounced ニ (like in 'near')

>this faggot doesn't know what a digraph is. "ea" is a digraph in Modern English
>doesn't know that English used to be phonic until sound changes fucked up the sound-spelling correspondence
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>>133738902
Ebin meme arrows, but you're not disproving anything. Thanks for showing that you're tired of pretending you have arguments.
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>>133738750
>Because English is inconsistent, and 'ne' can be pronounced ニ (like in 'near'). The correct pronunciation doesn't change.
except the title isn't "near" or "planites" it's プラネテス which is pronounced and read as planetes in english
see? i thought you english and japanese too

>>133738837
also >>133738808
is not even me, you assume too much

it's obviously getting to your head and you're getting desperate
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>>133739085
>i thought you english and japanese too
This sentence proves how much you know about both languages. プラネテス doesn't exist anywhere, whether in Greek, Japanese or English, outside of the author's mistake.
Simple enough for you? (Probably not. I'll have to repeat this for you.)
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>>133739206
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>>133739206
>making an argument based on a typo
i knew it, that's all you're good for
>プラネテス doesn't exist anywhere, whether in Greek, Japanese or English
kek the very fact that it is in katakana means it exist in japanese AS KATAKANA and such that the english fans pronounce it in english as PLANETES
geegolly that was so hard to understand!

your post proves your lack of comprehension as with all your previous posts

>>133738999
you're full of ebin meme arrows yourself mate, pot calling the kettle black

as usual nothing but twists, hypocrisy, strawman and ad hominem
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>>133739206
Provide source or lose.
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>>133691956
Ah-ohh-tee-why
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プラネテス
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plah nay desu
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>>133717973
>Missing the point.
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>this fucking thread
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>>133702613
>Why can't we have shows like Planetes anymore?

because the industry caters too much
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>>133739334
Yes, and where's the English in there? It's Greek and Japanese. English is irrelevant.

>>133739419
A typo is hardly the worst thing, since you neither punctuate nor capitalize.
>プラネテス doesn't exist anywhere, whether in Greek, Japanese or English, outside of the author's mistake.
Show me a dictionary, English or Japanese, where that word has an entry. Go ahead. I'm waiting. Go on.

>>133739456
I repeat: I'm telling you it doesn't exist, so you have to prove it does. Where's the dictionary entry? I'm waiting.
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>>133740504
It's a title of the manga. Why would it be in the dictionary?
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>>133740504
But it does exist, see >>133739334

The author named it プラネテス therefore it exists
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>>133740669
Therefore it's not linguistic canon, and the mistake in it is not justified by anything. Is that simple enough for you, or should I repeat it?

>>133740758
The author misspelled a word. See btain.
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>>133740839
But what he didn't? You can't prove anything as always.
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>>133740970
*what if
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>>133740970
Prove what, that he misspelled the original Greek pronunciation? I don't have to prove that, just type πλανήτες into Google Translate and listen to it, you lazy tard.
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>>133741051
Since when is Planetes a greek manga? They are talking about the japanese pronounciation you fucking idiot, which is PURANETESU
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>>133741051
No, he named the manga Planetes, he didn't misspell anything
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>>133741051
Prove that he didn't name his own fucking manga Planetes and not Planites. Jesus Christ.
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>>133741276
>>133741340
>>133741430
There is no such thing as a canon Japanese pronunciation, unless you show me a dictionary entry. Which is what we were just talking about. Pay attention. He made a mistake in transliterating the word. Read >>133702689.

It's simple, I don't understand how you can even breathe every day if you're having trouble with something like this.
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>>133741051
Do you think the author pronounces it "Puranetesu" or "Puranitesu"?

>>133741541
What dictionary? It's a fucking manga. Is Jojorion also wrong because it isn't in the dictionary?
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>>133741757
It's obvious the author was trying to pronunce it in the greek language, he made an error it's no big deal.

The question should be, should we pronunce it the way the author thinks it should be or how it was meant to be.

My dad is greek I just asked him, the other greek fag is right.
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>>133694403
>I have never had genuine ambition because I am a NEET
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>>133741757
The former, and he's wrong.

See a few posts above:
>>133740839
>Therefore it's not linguistic canon, and the mistake in it is not justified by anything. Is that simple enough for you, or should I repeat it?

Apparently, it wasn't simple enough for you, and I had to repeat it.
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>>133740504
>Yes, and where's the English in there? It's Greek and Japanese. English is irrelevant.
you just said japanese is irrelevant, going back on your words like the retard you are
also english is relevant in how people read プラネテス in english dumbass, how many times must i repeat this

>A typo is hardly the worst thing, since you neither punctuate nor capitalize.
more ad hominem kek
and it exists in the title, didn't i say so already? stop repeating the dictionary nonsense you retard, we're talking about the title of the anime

see >>133740669

>>133740839
>The author misspelled a word
misspelling a word means it doesn't exist as a title? KEK
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>>133741809
did your dad write the manga? i think not, no one gives a shit about the correct greek pronounciation except you retarded greek fags

we're talking about the manga/anime titled プラネテス, mistake or not that's what we're calling it because no one fucking uses the greek name for it
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>>133742569
Like I said that's what you should be discussing. Fine, he stilled pronounced it wrong so who cares.
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>>133742618
your greekfag friend who can't seem to let up that no one gives a shit about his correct greek pronounciation
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>>133742110
It is justified, in that, that was what the author decided to name his manga, planetes and not planites, and that's why everyone calls it planetes.
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>>133696436
>>133695888
>>133695541
>>133695502
>>133692026
all of these posters? all me.
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I'd like to see our greek anons email the author to tell him to change the title because he mispronounced a word instead of making pointless arguments on the internet because they can't stand the fact that no one gives a shit about the greek pronounciation.
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>>133742443
English is utterly irrelevant, Japanese is simply mistaken. You tried to bring in English as a comparison, which was retarded.
プラネテス is not English, it's a Japanese reading of a Greek word. It has nothing to do with English. Do you understand what 'nothing' means?

And do tell me why proving you're worthless at something doesn't disprove your arguments about it. Go ahead. I'm waiting. Go on.

>misspelling a word means it doesn't exist as a title?
ctrl+f btains again, tard.

>>133742820
I repeat: btains. He tried to write something specific, and he made a mistake. That doesn't make it an 'alternate version', since we know what he was trying to write.

Simple enough for you, or will I have to repeat this too?

>>133742937
And stop being so asspained because you were proven wrong, one post is enough.
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If Greece is filled with retards like Padapoapolis over here, no wonder their economy went to shit and they can't fix it.
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>>133743030
>English is utterly irrelevant, Japanese is simply mistaken. You tried to bring in English as a comparison, which was retarded.
>プラネテス is not English, it's a Japanese reading of a Greek word. It has nothing to do with English. Do you understand what 'nothing' means?
except we're all speaking english here, so yes english is relevant
japanese may be mistaken, but it's still the title, why do you keep arguing this?

>And do tell me why proving you're worthless at something doesn't disprove your arguments about it. Go ahead. I'm waiting. Go on.
because it's ad hominem, it has no relation to the argument about the title
how can you not understand this? how stupid are you?

>btain again
kek seriously now, btain or not, the title is still プラネテス and is still refered to in english as planetes
it's not an alternate version, it's what people call it in english
yes we know he named it after the greek word, but no one calls it that, neither does anyone pronounce it with the greek pronounciation

this is such a simple concept that you refuse to grasp just because you want to flair your e-peen at random anons about your greek correctness, that no one accepts, so you might as well just give up now
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>>133743030
You didn't prove anyone wrong, all you did was go on and on about unrelated nonsense.
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>>133743212
>>133743331
>please stop having actual arguments, I can't take it anymore ;_;
I suggest not making assumptions, they only humiliate you.

>>133743241
The English pronunciation of the Japanese title is irrelevant. And where's your canon source on the word? Where's the dictionary entry? There is none. Therefore, only the original is correct.

You're trying to convince me about something language-related, while completely failing at language. (And logic, too.) Do try to tell me how it's not relevant. I'm waiting. Go on. Tell me exactly how sucking at something makes your opinion on it more valid. I'm waiting.

The title is wrong, and no matter how much you writhe that's not changing. What people call it in English doesn't matter, because it's **utterly irrelevant**. It's a Japanese reading of a Greek word. Do you understand that? Should I say it yet again for your insufficient brain to process it?
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>>133743417
>assumptions
where are these assumptions you speak of? do you even know what that word means? no one assumed anything, the japanese title is right there

>canon source
the title of the show of course, we are talking about the anime and not the greek word

>dictionary entry again
give it a rest already, stop forcing your stupid logic onto other people, it's a title of a show, it's obviously not going to be in a dictionary

>only the original is correct
and? we're not talking about the original greek word here, we're talking about the anime titled プラネテス

>What people call it in English doesn't matter, because it's **utterly irrelevant**
except it is relevant because we're all speaking in english and since there is no canon english title, we're reading it in english based on the katakana spelling PURANETESU, planetes
again this simple simple concept you just can't comprehend just tells everyone you're a fucking moron

the title may be wrong, but we're not talking about the greek word, we're talking about the title, so your arguments are completely irrelevant
should i say it yet again for your insufficient brain to process it?
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>>133691956
Planètes
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>>133743241
>neither does anyone pronounce it with the greek pronounciation
well you should, privileged primitive monkey murricans
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>>133743918
>everyone who speak english are burgers
pls
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>>133743828
-So all the posts were you? Good to see you're not denying your samefagging.
-I'm talking about a dictionary, dumbass. A title is disputable, a dictionary isn't. And this title is wrong. Dumbass.
-As long as it's not in a dictionary, it's not canon. It's disputable. In this case, it's demonstratably wrong. (See? I said the same thing twice again. Your parents must be having trouble raising you.
-The anime's title is a mistaken transliteration of a Greek word, as I explained to you in >>133702689.
-We're saying the Japanese name of a Japanese series, which is the corrupted version of a Greek word. English has absolutely **nothing** to do with it. Do you understand what nothing means? No canon source, no dictionary entry, nothing. Irrelevant. That leaves us with only the Japanese, which is wrong.

The title is wrong. Plain and simple. The author tried to write something very specific, something we know, and he made a mistake. Btains.
And by all means, keep parroting my words. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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>>133743417
Where's your canon source on an anime called planites? There is none. Therefore, only the original is correct.
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>>133744041
The canon source is the Greek word from which it was taken, dumbass. The only relevant source. And you can use Google Translate's text-to-speech for that. Also, keep it in one post, I told you it's pathetic. (If you're trying to hit autosage so your suffering can end quicker, keep in mind that we can continue this in the archive. And I assure you, I'll keep milking you for amusement there.)
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Are you guys still arguing over this?!
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I'm glad /a/ is still /a/utism. Wouldn't have it any other way.
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>>133744151
>>133744166
see >>133735241, e-penis is an important thing. He can't argue, so he's trying to bullshit his way out, hoping I'll get tired. A lolcow in every sense of the word.
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>>133744037
>replying to your other arguments against other anons means it's me
kek, you're too self concious

>-I'm talking about a dictionary, dumbass. A title is disputable, a dictionary isn't. And this title is wrong. Dumbass.
well i guess you better look for a thread about the greek word planites then, because this thread is about the anime planetes

i never said the title is correct, that's just your assumption. you claim other people are making assumptions yet can't source them, while you yourself constantly make assumptions to back your arguments

you're the only one who cares about the title being wrong, the rest of us only care that the show is called planetes

and since we're calling the show planetes in english, that makes english relevant whether it is correct or not, i have explained this so many times, you're just being stupid now

it doesn't have to be in a dictionary to be correct, it's what the manga and anime are titled that make it correct in the context of refering to it in english.

how else are we sopposed to refer to the show in english then? please do tell what we should call this show in english then

see >>133744041
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>>133744130
That's funny, I don't see an anime named planites.
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>>133744223
>b-but-
nope.
-It's about a title that's wrong, as Google Translate's speech-to-text function could prove, if you weren't too scared to try it. Which I just told you, try to pay attention, son.
-You're insisting that it's an "alternative interpretation". It's not. It's a clear-cut mistake, and no amount of spasming around can change that.
-You apparently care enough to try to bullshit your way out of this for a day straight, trying to conceal the fact that you have no arguments by insisting on more bullshit such as "sucking at something doesn't make my opinion on its proper use less valid". I'd love to see you try to debate that, but you're too scared, I take it.
-We're not calling it anything in English, you monumental dumbass. It's a Japanese title taken from a Greek word. English doesn't factor into this in any conceivable way, no matter how much you whine.
-It's an obvious corruption of a certain word that the author was trying to write. Btains, son.
-What should we call it? Type πλανήτες into Google Translate and listen. That's what we should call it.
>>133744284
You see ΠΛΑΝΗΤΕΣ, which is just that. And keep it in one post, see >>133744130 for how pathetic you're being.
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>>133744284
It's on the cover, the nip mispronounced the word. I don't know why you fucks wont let this other greek faggot just win. He's right it's mispronounced.
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>>133744479
i never said the title wasn't wrong, you just assumed it, in fact i did say the title is wrong, and what of it? so what if the title is wrong? that's how we're still going to refer to it, what's your point in all this?

i never once said it was an alternate version, in fact i said it WASN'T >>133743241
and i agreed it was a mistake, as usual you fail reading comprehension
you're making assumptions again, either that or you're just twisting my words as usual

my argument has always been that the title is planetes, even if it is wrong and a mistake

>opinion on its proper use less valid
i never once made an opinion of proper use of capitalization and punctuation, that's what you've been doing

>We're not calling it anything in English
then how do we refer to it? dumbass

>>133744218
the irony in this, don't you realise he's talking about you? i haven't made any bullshit, i've constantly stuck to the fact that it's named planetes

you're the one who's been making bullshit up in every single post, about nonsense like assumptions, which i'm still waiting for you to tell me where i made any assumptions at all, while on the other hand you are full of them

>hoping I'll get tired
>If you're trying to hit autosage so your suffering can end quicker
these are your assumptions and bullshit
how self concious do you have to be? are you trying to do the internet badass routine cause that only makes you look like an idiot
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>>133744723
and i did agree he's right, but he's just constantly been telling me i didn't as if he can't read english
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So it's pronounced "planets"?
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>>133744736
No, you dumbass, we're not referring to it in English. English has nothing to do with it. It doesn't factor into this.

Repeat:
> It's a Japanese title taken from a Greek word. English doesn't factor into this in any conceivable way, no matter how much you whine.
Insisting that "it's the title so it should be pronounced that way" is doing exactly what I'm describing. And that's retarded. Btains.

Repeat:
>insisting on more bullshit such as "sucking at something doesn't make my opinion on its proper use less valid".
If that isn't desperate bullshitting smokescreen tactics, then what is?

Repeat:
>btains. He tried to write something specific, and he made a mistake. That doesn't make it an 'alternate version', since we know what he was trying to write.

Of course you can't read English, since I have to repeat things to you over and over.
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>>133745086
ok so then what do we call the show in english
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>>133745107

>>133695007
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>That episode where the guy from the 3rd world tests his suit
>That scene where he cries looking down on earrh as the UN invades his country
>"Looking down from here there are no borders, this is how it should be."
>Doesn't even care that it will never be used, just wanted to prove his country could do it
That was the most memorable episode in the show for me.
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>>133745173
On the same lne as that scene, I've always loved the scene in the final episode where Hakim encounters Nono.

>Recovering weapon to continue terrorism
>Encounter small child
>Child asks if he can see your country country from there
>"You can't see any of them from out here in space, but I still do"
>Walk away in shame
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>day old MANATEES thread
>moot didn't post
He is really gone, isn't he?
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When will the japs make more realistic space anime.
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>>133745543
>battle in space
>it has sounds and shit

Getting real tired of this bullshit.
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>>133745543

Feels moon man.
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>>133745173
>his genuine belief in hard work and desire to make his country a better place
Best character. Actually made me tear up.

>>133745441
I vaguely remember him posting recently, but he hasn't actually appeared at all, has he?
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>>133745086
>If that isn't desperate bullshitting smokescreen tactics, then what is?
LOL what does this even mean, you really think you're some internet badass fighting a war or something? that's truly pathetic

at the end of the day the japanese will still refer to it as プラネテス and everyone except the greeks and retards will call it planetes based on the katakana spelling

it doesn't matter that it's wrong or you're right, you're just gonna have to accept that no one except the greeks care about the original greek pronounciation or spelling and are not going to use the greek word to refer to the show

i'm still waiting for an answer to this >>133745107
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>>133745173
This and moon girl's "sea" were my most memorable episodes.
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>>133745441
moot had slowly been distancing himself from us for a long time, whether to put up appearances or because he actually did become a normalfag.

>>133745650
You tell me, you'd rather humiliate yourself by >insisting on more bullshit such as "sucking at something doesn't make my opinion on its proper use less valid".
than admit you were wrong. That's beyond pathetic, son.

Just because you're retarded doesn't mean everyone else is. And I did answer to that, didn't you see >>133745147? Are you starting to lose it?
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>>133745717
>You tell me, you'd rather humiliate yourself by >insisting on more bullshit such as "sucking at something doesn't make my opinion on its proper use less valid".
i never said this, you did, these are all your posts >>133744479
>>133745086
>>133743417
why are you implying i said this when these are all your posts? that's just pathetic

>admit you were wrong
saying that the title is プラネテス in japanese and referred to as planetes when calling it in english is wrong?

>>133695007
except no one has been calling the show pla-neet-es
why don't you google planeetes
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>>133746170
>and how is all that related to how the title is pronounced?
>also you never answered how trustworthiness is related to capitalization and punctuation
Your words: "I may fail tremendously at language, but that's irrelevant, you still have to respect my opinion on language!"
Anything else to say, son?

Yes, it is wrong, because a) English is irrelevant and b) the katakana is wrong.

>why don't you google planeetes
Do you think that's an answer, or that it's smart? I knew you were retarded, but this is seriously bad. Why don't you google πλανήτες?
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>>133746308
>Your words: "I may fail tremendously at language, but that's irrelevant, you still have to respect my opinion on language!"
i never said this, stop making assumptions

i have googled it, why don't you? do you see the anime in the results?

also from the planetes wiki
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE%B7%CF%82

the actual greek word isn't even planetes or planites, so all your arguments about planites have been worthless

however, my arguments about プラネテス still stand because it's the official japanese title, as well as the show being called planetes in english by practically everyone. just accept it already even if it's wrong, that's how it's going to be
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>>133746308
>Why don't you google πλανήτες?
why don't you google planetes
checkmate
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>>133746580
I pointed out your gross mishandling of the language, you said I need to explain how it's relevant. That's literally and exactly what happened, son.

The plural is πλανήτες (planites), the singular is πλανήτης (planitis). See? I educated you again.

The "official" title is objectively wrong, since the author tried to write a Greek word and got it wrong. Not arguable. Just plain wrong. And when something's wrong, we correct it. Like your parents should have done with your education, given that it led you to say things like
>"I may fail tremendously at language, but that's irrelevant, you still have to respect my opinion on language!"

Any further elaborations on your retardation?

>>133746712
What sort of checkmate destroys your own argument? All it returns is links about the anime in English, which is irrelevant to begin with, especially since it can't decide whether e is pronounced え or い. We're talking about Japanese, dumbass.
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>>133746830
>We're talking about Japanese, dumbass.
checkmate again, this game 2ezpz
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>>133747015
Oh boy, the misspelled Japanese title shows more hits than the correct version, which is not a word in Japanese and therefore is never used. What a shock.

You really are retarded, aren't you? That's what I've been saying all along, that the Japanese title is wrong. You still haven't gotten that through your head? Really?
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>>133747061
>Oh boy, the misspelled Japanese title shows more hits than the correct version, which is not a word in Japanese and therefore is never used. What a shock.
>non anime related links
>relevant
kek

>>133746830
>All it returns is links about the anime in English, which is irrelevant to begin with
>related anime
>irrelevant
kek

i sure got schooled mom
why can't i hold all dese keks
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>>133747061
>Oh boy, the misspelled Japanese title shows more hits than the correct version
counting is haerd mahmy
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>>133747233
What are you trying to prove, seriously? That a word that is ***not used*** in English has few results? What I gave you is the pronunciation, not how to look it up on Google, you monumental retard. Try the Greek words if you want any relevant results.

English is irrelevant, not the anime, you monumental retard. You should have gotten schooled in the basics of logic and reading comprehension, complain to your mom about that.

>>133747289
Yes, the correct version shows five hits, the mistaken one has 412k.

Counting is apparently hard, you should have asked mommy to teach you.
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Okay so how do you pronounce "planetes"
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>>133747514

>>133695007
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>>133747406
i'm trying to prove that people call this anime, planetes or プラネテス, as simple as that, not planites or planitis or プラニテス
why is this so hard to understand lol you sutpid? kek

the greek words don't even give you links RELATED to the anime, which IS THE POINT

>>133747406
>Yes, the correct version shows five hits, the mistaken one has 412k.
you dumb son, by mistaken one i'm refering to プラニテス in reference to the actual title relating to this anime プラネテス
as you can see this anime had more hits when spelt as the latter

checkmate again
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>>133747537
>Did you mean: planetes
kek
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>>133747566
"People" are wrong. The author misspelled the word, meaning it's wrong. When we see mistakes, we correct them, like your parents should have done with you, given that you turned out
>sutpid

The English words I gave you are the phonetic pronunciation, which you were retarded to even look up, and of course the Greek words won't give you the anime, because they literally mean "planets". How retarded are you?

プラニテス is the correct one, プラネテス is the mistaken one. That's not debatable, since it's not even ancient Greek, but modern. Ergo, you're a complete and utter retard, and an embarrassment to whoever made the mistake of raising you.
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>>133747673
>The English words I gave you are the phonetic pronunciation, which you were retarded to even look up
As if once wasn't enough, you do it twice. Are you really that retarded, or are you trying to make me laugh?
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>>133747682
>>133747711
don't make multiple posts son, it's pathetic kek

>"People" are wrong. The author misspelled the word, meaning it's wrong. When we see mistakes, we correct them, like your parents should have done with you, given that you turned out
ok go correct everyone else in the world, google and the author kek

>The English words I gave you are the phonetic pronunciation, which you were retarded to even look up, and of course the Greek words won't give you the anime, because they literally mean "planets". How retarded are you?
except no one cares to call the anime that kek

>プラニテス is the correct one, プラネテス is the mistaken one. That's not debatable, since it's not even ancient Greek, but modern. Ergo, you're a complete and utter retard, and an embarrassment to whoever made the mistake of raising you.
>>133747566
>in reference to the actual title relating to this anime
you fail comprehension son? kek
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>>133747789
There you go, parroting my words again.

I'm informing a bunch of anons, and you're acting like a complete retard with your keks and facebook-tier posting, proving me right.

>lol nobody cares lol please stop being right ;_;
No, kek.

Yes, and the title is mistaken. You still haven't realized that's exactly what I'm saying? How retarded are you?
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>>133747876
>>133747876
>Yes, and the title is mistaken. You still haven't realized that's exactly what I'm saying? How retarded are you?
you're the one that hasn't realised that i agreed with you, many times over, yet you keep parroting yourself over and over like an idiot and refuse to accept the title as is even if it's the official title

that's autism max

the title will still forever be プラネテス and planetes in english, and this you can never prove otherwise

checkmate, son
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>>133747993
One click is enough, son.

The title is mistaken, and mistakes are meant to be corrected, as someone should have told your parents. When people ask what the pronunciation is, they'll be given the correct one, not the wrong one. No matter how much you bitch, whine, parrot everything I say, and spam 'kek'. The title is easily proven to be wrong, you can just ask Google Translate.

Also,
>"sucking at something doesn't make my opinion on its proper use less valid"
is autism.
checkmate, son
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>>133748104
fun fact, i never once said your pronounciation was wrong, so you've been arguing for nothing

i only ever argued the title is プラネテス in japanese and planetes in english and that is fact, despite being wrong or not

you're autistic for being unable to comprehend this

>still no source
>can only parrot himself
>imitating me
thanks for proving my right, i'm flattered
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>>133748283
You're even parroting my "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" post.

What I've been saying from the very beginning is that the Japanese title is wrong. Your parents didn't correct their mistake, but normal people do. As for "planetes", it can be pronounced both ways, and >>133695007 is the right one.

>"sucking at something doesn't make my opinion on its proper use less valid"
This is autism. I'm actually enjoying imagining how desperate you must be to act so idiotic just to avoid saying "I was wrong". Your ego must be hilariously fragile.
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