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Neon Genesis Evangelion

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So, I finally decided to watch evangelion...
I watched the original series + end of evangelion, didn't watch the movie trilogy yet.

There are a few questions I want to ask you guys, since this series is debated so often here and the various wikis i've checked out didn't really give me a satisfying answer.

What is the Angels' actual objective? Why are they trying to reach Lilith? The series states that if an Angel reaches Lilith, humanity will be wiped out in the Third Impact.

It is also said that they are trying to reach Adam, to re-awaken him and allow him to reclaim the Earth for his sons by destroying Lilith's spawn, i.e. mankind.

So, Angels want to unconsciously reunite with Adam, but they actually head for Lilith. Is it because Angels can sense the presence of a Seed of Life, but not precisely which one of the two?

Moreover, Lilith and Adam are often mistaken for one another in the series.

If an Angel reached Lilith instead of Adam, would Third Impact happen anyways? Would they try to eliminate Lilith, sensing she's the opposite Seed of Life? Would they even undestand which Seed of Life they're looking at, like Kaworu did when he finally reached Terminal Dogma?
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>>133689960
this show was shit anyways. It's not worth thinking about anymore than "wow that was stupid".
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Just watch End of Evangelion after the show. The other movie is just recap and the first 30 minutes of EoE
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>>133689960
it's trash that pretends to be deep
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>>133690014
>>133690118
Did you even read the OP? I'm not asking wheter you liked it or not, I honestly couldn't care less about a stranger's taste.

Just looking for someone with more knowledge about the show to let me understand these few things I really couldn't wrap my head around.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho07Ag6lV9g
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Nice spam, faggot >>133688903
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>>133689960
The impacts are basically defined as Adam meets Lilith. The second was caused by a human, ie Lilith based life, making physical contact with Adam.

As to what an angel would do if it actually made it to Lilith? Would depend on the angel in question. I'm sure they'd all be really confused at first.
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Angels want to reach Lilith to wipe out humanity via third impact and be the sole beings to control the planet.
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>>133690639
Wouldn't they reach the same goal if they meet Adam?
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>>133690613
That makes sense.

So all impacts are essentially a way to "reset" life on a planet that has two Seeds of Life?

But then again, if physical contact is enough to trigger an Impact, how could Gendo fuse Adam's embryo into himself without problems?

>>133690639
And how exactly is reaching Lilith supposed to wipe out humanity?

I could understand Adam: angels are parts of him, and maybe their presence could restore his powers and allow him to wipe out humanity (like he tried to to in Second Impact)... but isn't Lilith essentially humanity's mother? Why would she destroy what she created because an angel reached her? And also, Lilith seems pretty harmless, compared to Adam. While Adam actively tried to eliminate mankind, Lilith never tried to wipe out angels, or do anything that's not standing there impaled to the cross.
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>>133691299
>But then again, if physical contact is enough to trigger an Impact, how could Gendo fuse Adam's embryo into himself without problems?
The Impacts aren't actually related in anything but name. The First Impact was just Lilith crashing into Earth, the Second Impact was Adam awakening in Antarctica, and Third Impact could have potentially been a couple different things, but ended up being the merging of all human souls into the "Moon" Lilith crashed landed on Earth in.

>But then again, if physical contact is enough to trigger an Impact, how could Gendo fuse Adam's embryo into himself without problems?
Gendo isn't a Seed of Life.

>And how exactly is reaching Lilith supposed to wipe out humanity?
It wasn't, necessarily. Not all the angels had a unified goal. Some were trying to get at Adam, and some of them were just fucking around. The intelligence of the Angels varies widely and they didn't always know what the fuck they were doing.

Misato remarks on contact between Adam-based life and Lilith not causing an Impact late in the series, when they send Unit 00 down to Terminal Dogma, implying that whole premise is false.
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>>133692567
>Gendo isn't a Seed of Life
Didn't you say Second Impact was caused by a "Lilith-based life" making physical contact with Adam?

>Some were trying to get at Adam
So they did try to get Adam, but couldn't tell him apart from Lilith, right?
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>>133689960
Basically all you need to know is that lilin a shit and angels are the true good guys of the show.
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>>133690391
Not op but thanks anon.
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>>133693675
>muh dead retard angels
Fuck off Kaworufag.

>lilin
Fuck off Kaworufag Rebuildfag
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>>133694140
(笑)
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>>133694140
Are you retarded? Lilin didn't come from Rebuild, dumbass.
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>>133689960
>Moreover, Lilith and Adam are often mistaken for one another in the series

2 possibilities for this that we would never know which is right

kaji was a rusemaster all along, he could have said to misato that lilith was adam on purpose.

kaji could have been genuinely mistaken in thinking lilith was adam.

but my bets are on the first, kaji had access to a lot of information and should have known the light giant was adam
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>>133694517
>expecting muh ebin kaworufag boogeyman retard to know that
He's just triggered that he'll never be a cute white-haired angel boy.
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>>133693300
>Didn't you say Second Impact was caused by a "Lilith-based life" making physical contact with Adam?
Second Impact was just Adam wrecking shit because that's what comes natural to him. He started projecting an Anti AT Field after he woke up because that's just what he does. And it's what Selee were expecting him to do.

>So they did try to get Adam, but couldn't tell him apart from Lilith, right?
At least a few of them probably couldn't. Angels aren't always very smart. See: Kaworu.
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>>133694517
>>133694594
>both retards
Lilin is Rebuild.
Lilim is NGE.

Good job proving you're both retarded rebuild baby faggots.
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>>133694517
Millenial "I just watched Rebuild xD am I evafag yet" Newfag detected.
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>>133689960
Of the Impacts we're shown, Second was interrupted and contained to just a planet-fucking explosion by the heroic effort of Dr. Katsuragi and his staff, Third was some severe mad science hacked together from artificial angels and lances and hijacked by a surprise god, we don't have a lot of indication of how they're supposed to go. And it's hard to say, too, what angels think or know since the ones that communicate are either also human or contacting a single human in that human's own voice.
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>>133694820
>Lilin is Rebuild.
>Lilim is NGE.

Nigga, the Japanese word is リリン, you can't end a word with m in Japanese. People have spelled it as Lilim in the past as a stylistic choice, but either way is technically correct. But the word has always been lilin in Japanese because it's impossible to spell lilim.
Thanks for proving the only retard here is you.

>>133694895
This is some next level shitposting.
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>>133694938
Either way isn't correct, it was written "Lilim" black on white. Nice job, might want to go back to Rebuild though.
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>>133694820
>>133694895
>tfw I share a board with these incorrect retards
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>>133694938
>say each is acceptable
>call someone else a retard for using the acceptable way you dont use

o k
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>>133694964
>>133694997
I know you don't know Japanese, but at least try to do some research before acting like you know what you're talking about.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD%BF%E5%BE%92_(%E6%96%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%B4%80%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B2%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3)#.E3.83.AA.E3.83.AA.E3.83.B3_.28LILIN.29
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>>133694938
>gets called out on being a rebuild-kid
>throws a buttrampage
Was both localized, written and translated as Lilim pre-Rebuild.

Nice try newfag.
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>>133695033
but you literally said either way is technically correct

what are you even trying to argue? are you trying to look smart?

by the way i'm none of the people you were replying to before
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>>133695038
Please tell me how one would spell lilim in Japanese, then.

>>133695077
Because either way is technically correct. A switch from n to m makes no real difference, but Japanese have always spelled and pronounced lilin with an n because you it's impossible to spell it with an m.
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>>133695033
see >>133695077
>>133695038

Kaworufag newfag, get the FUCK out.
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>>133695113
>Because either way is technically correct. A switch from n to m makes no real difference
So this argument is over? Thanks for confirming
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>>133695115
Yes, because everyone should listen to you over the official wikipedia article of NGE. Okay.
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>>133695113
Stop acting fucking retarded cancerfag. You wouldn't spell "Lilim" in Japanese the same way you don't spell a dozen of english or foreign loan-words, you use approximations such as lilin.
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>>133695172
No, see >>133695172
>>133695113
>>133695077
Basically you're a fucking retard and should get back to /cm/.
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>Literally fighting over letters
>This is the current state of Eva threads
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>>133695170
There was no argument, there was just giving evidence as to why this anon: >>133694820 is wrong.
It's always been lilin as far as the Japanese is concerned. Not sure why everyone is so hostile.

>>133695180
So by agreeing that the Japanese word is actually lilin, you admit to there being no difference between lilin and lilim and that Rebuild has nothing to do with it. Thank you.

>>133695214
You're the one who said Lilin only started as a thing in Rebuild, the wiki and the language itslef proves you wrong. Why are you getting so flustered?
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>>133695243
Kaworufag got triggered again.
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>>133695253
Not that guy, but the message is obvious:

Localization/Translation for Lilin was Lilim, hence everyone used that and largely still do for NGE, and since you went for the one Rebuild brought along, you're a newfag most likely.
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>>133695270
Anon, we're just trying to calmly explain to you why this post of yours is incorrect: >>133694820
No one is getting triggered. No one is arguing.

>>133695315
Localization is irrelevant since the actual Japanese word is lilin. Even fansubs spelled it as lilin. And Rebuild never brought anything new along, I'm not sure why you're trying to force this point.
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>>133695315
It is literally spelled LILIN in the Japanese wikipedia article. Just give it up.
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>>133695315
Even Evageeks calls it Lilin, and another official translation publisher called it Lilin.
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Lilin#Notes
>A Romanized rendition of リリン (Ririn) is not provided in the show or known from any official sources. Discrepancies exist in the localizations, since ADV (TV series) render it as "Lilim", whereas Manga Entertainment use "Lilin". Rebuild, although a separate canon from the TV series, uses "Lilin" in the first movie's preview for Eva 2.0, and so should be considered the "official word" on the matter.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho07Ag6lV9g
this one helped me a lot.
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>>133695406
>>133695375
>>133695443
>133695443
>deliberately missing the entire point

You were called out newfag. You can please go now.
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>>133695033
Why are Kaworufags always the only ones who know Japanese?
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>>133695375
see >>133695315
You can stop doing damage control now.
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>>133695532
Doesn't going for ADV's transaltion instead of the official Japanese imply that you're a dubfag?
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>>133695580
It implies you were around for the first "dub-era". It was always "ririn", even in the wiki, but the localization used Lilim and so that was the word used.

Had said anon explained that he changed how he used it, then he'd have passed but unfortunately he decided to pretend it was always like this thus proving his newfaggotry.

It was a simple test and the Kaworufag failed it.
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>>133695474
>>133695532
Okay, let's just ignore the official evidence and the fundamentals of an entire language that prove you wrong.
That's a healthy way to go about things.
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>>133695375
It's not irrelevant because the whole point is about you, and whether or not you're a rebuild-baby. Prior to Rebuild the only word used was Lilim, though articles/wiki (even non-eva-related english entries) listed Lilin over Lilim.

Using Lilin over Lilim in reference to NGE is one massive baby-alert alarm these days.
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>>133695628
Quite the opposite, since using the actual Japanese term would imply I was around before ADV's official release in the original Japanese. Which I did.
Localization are not always correct and are often inconsistent, I also see no point in calling them Lilim when the Japanese is Lilin and sounds nicer in my opinion.
The anon claiming it was a Rebuild thing is completely wrong which it what I was disproving in the first place.

>>133695676
>Prior to Rebuild the only word used was Lilim
Not quite, because even the english articles like Evageeks use lilin: >>133695443
>Using Lilin over Lilim in reference to NGE is one massive baby-alert alarm these days
I'd say the other way around, since the ones who use Lilim tend to have watched NGE with the dub and ADV's incorrect translation rather than the fansubs that existed before of the original airing in Japan like me. They're even more 'newfag' in this case.
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>>133695629
Do you even read the posts you reply to?
See >>133695628
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>>133695833
Yes.
Do you?
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>>133695765
see >>133695676
>>133695628

The anon was right about you Rebuild-baby. No amount of lies and BS can make up for it now.

I think this: >>133695628
puts it best.

You continued denial of what was the de facto usage of the word only proves you're wrong further.
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>>133690391
Actually understanding all of this just makes me hate NGE more than I ever did before.
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>>133695874
You clearly ignore the point of them though.

But relax, it's not like everyone doesn't know that Kaworufags are only into Evangelion for the homo nonsense to begin with, most actually coming in lately.

That's you.
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>>133695891
Except Evangelion communities even before Rebuild used lilin as well, as that was what was used in fansubs before ADV.
On why ADV replaced the n with an m, no one really knows. But ADV was never known for accuracy, they also misspelled character's names wrong and pronounced them wrong in their dub. Remember Asoookuh?
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>>133695243
Is that nip wearing Misato's clothes? Is that what a 3D Misato would look like? I'm definitely sticking to 2D
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>>133695962
The point that has been disproved by the wiki articles I linked to? Okay.
I'd say since I'm using the actual correct term instead of a localized nonsensical butchering by ADV (A dub company no less), I'm put into a more favorable light.
If you watched Eva in dub, you didn't watch Eva correctly.
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>>133695765
>Not quite, because even the english articles like Evageeks use lilin: >>133695443
They've been altered since then, and that doesn't belie the fact that Lilim was used in fandom. You can even check this in the archive or on evgeeks(the forum) itself for proof.

However the point was that if you were at all not a newbie, you'd have recognized this and not having made the false claim that it was always used like this by everyone.

>Quite the opposite, since using the actual Japanese term would imply I was around before ADV's official release in the original Japanese.
Nope, because if you were, you'd know it was wrong to say Lilim wasn't used and thus wouldn't have tried to claim it was used.

That gave you away, Kaworufag.
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>>133696044
>Lilim wasn't used and thus wouldn't have tried to claim it was used
It definitely was used, as that was the spelling ADV gave.
But then Manga Entertainment gave the lilin spelling soon after, so communities would use a mix of both; neither was said to be necessarily better than the other as neither was said to be the official translation.
But anyone who knew about Eva before ADV used lilin, as that is the actual word. Rebuild is actually irrelevant.

For the anon that suggested lilin is a Rebuild only term is a newfag who doesn't know Evangelion prior to ADV's release.
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>>133696043
>>133695981
Way to miss the point as usual, Kaworufag.

You would have noticed none actually claimed it was written Lilim, only localized/translated, and they used this as a pin-point to pinpoint you as the bandwagoning autistic kaworufag that so often plagues threads.

The minute you denied this was when you proved you were a newfag who had no history in either EVA or the fandom. You would have known, and you would not have protested.

It's an easy way to spot newfags, and please note how everyone targets you not the alleged translation, and most even make fun of you for even admitting that both are acceptable.

Might want to admit you're new as fuck now.
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OP here, are you guys seriously arguing over wheter it's "Lilim" or "Lilin" instead of discussing the actual series?

I get it's old stuff and it has probably been already discussed to death, but come on.
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>>133696133
Actually no, since this is the post that first started the whole debacle: >>133694820

I'll stick with what the Japanese wiki and Gainax actually gave us long ago before ADV gave us a nonsensical rewording, thank you: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD%BF%E5%BE%92_(%E6%96%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%B4%80%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B2%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3)#.E3.83.AA.E3.83.AA.E3.83.B3_.28LILIN.29

>>133696168
They're just mad that it's a Kaworufag proving them wrong, not so much the actual topic.
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>>133696121
You now notice how people accepted both spellings and make a point out of saying NGE's translation used Lilim and Rebuild Lilin.
Hence the point was always discovering whether or not you were a "rebuild-kid" since someone not a Rebuild-kid would not protest the point being made. They simply wouldn't know, just like you didn't.

It's too late to backpedal now Kaworufag. You've been exposed, and I'm not surprised you'd fuck up this one.

>>133696168
We know it's Lilin but as a matter of fact, Lilim was used regardless prior to Rebuild, not knowing this means you weren't present prior to Rebuild.
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>>133696204
See >>133696133

You try so hard to miss the point but it only proves how fucked up you are. It should be easy to admit you're new.
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>>133696245
>>133696212
Fansubbed Eva before ADV's release is not 'Rebuild'.
You're actually newer than I if you would refer to the spelling ADV gives. Possibly a dubfag.
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>>133696204
Actually yes, because said post only points out the two words and their related usage. Subsequent posts don't insist the right translation is Lilim, only that you're a newfag.

You fell right into the trap.

By the way, performed any wanton acts of terrorism yet Kaworufag?
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>>133696303
You say Lilin only became a thing because of Rebuild, and that people who use it are Rebuild-babies, which just isn't the case.

Bringing up unrelated meta in a discussion you've already lost on the spelling of a term is just embarrassing, though.
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>>133696280
It's too late to defend yourself because the only point you could have defended yourself was in the beginning, but since you kept insisting it was always Lilin you proved you weren't present.

Even if you watched a fansubbed copy that used "Lilin", you'd have known Lilim was the go-to usage word for NGE and therefore never protested.

That's what makes you a dumb Kaworufag and a Rebuild-baby to boot.
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>>133696361
>You say Lilin only became a thing because of Rebuild, and that people who use it are Rebuild-babies, which just isn't the case.
It did though, as everyone knows prior the word used was Lilim by the fanbase.

You being ignorant of this proved you're a rebuild-baby.
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>>133696361
See >>133696375

I myself use Lilin. But I knew that before that, people including myself used Lilim. You however, were ignorant of the idea and insisted Lilin was always used.

Also, not my fault Kaworufags are delusional people who go around terrorizing people.
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>>133696375
>insisting it was always Lilin
I actually said both terms were technically correct, as communities used a mix of the two, but it started out with lilin as that is the original Japanese.

>Even if you watched a fansubbed copy
I didn't, because I watched it during its original airing in Japan. I'd have no reason to use lilim.

>Lilim was the go-to usage word for NGE and therefore never protested.
Except it wasn't because communities used both, even official publishers used lilin. I also don't see why I'd have to conform to an english fanbase even if that was the case. Using the actual Japanese word makes more sense.

>3DPD
Newfag?

>>133696411
>everyone knows prior the word used was Lilim by the fanbase
See above.

>>133696473
>insisted Lilin was always used
I actually said both were used. And Lilim was definitely not 100% used by the fanbase, it was a mix of both as neither was official in my experience.
Please give me evidence to counter this if its not true.
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>>133696168
It's the same Kaworufag that usually gets BTFO in Eva-threads, he uses the same images and always does the same "lilin a shit xD angels best" routine, and gets mad when people respond that humans > angels.

He starts banter, can't handle the banter, and then gets buttrekt.
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>>133696517
Too late for damage control now landwhale-chan.
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Who the hell cares?
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>>133696534
Isn't it technically your fault for starting the senseless argument and getting triggered by the angel post? Does a harmless joke really piss you off that much?
I'd post the no fun allowed picture, but I don't have it on me.
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>>133696566
There's really nothing to damage control, though.
You got proven wrong and it's as simple as that.
Lilin is definitely not a term that started with Rebuild.
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>>133696577
>starts banter
>gets banter in return
You're the only one triggered here kaworufag.

>my fault
>when you're so butthurt you can't handle the fact that you got BTFO again
laffin' at you nerd
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So, Eva fans are so retard or this is just a one time thing?
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>>133696625
Actually you started it right here by responding to a harmless joke post:
>>133694140
>>133694820

You were also the first and only one to bring in meta that was completely irrelevant.
I assume it may be logical to attribute so many Eva threads falling into waifuwars because of you.
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>>133696517
Moving goalposts and correcting yourself post-fact doesn't actually fix things Kaworufag.

>but I watched it during the original airing!
Then you'd know, had you been observing since then, the fanbase's use of Lilim. Saying otherwise is just digging your grave deeper.
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Butthurt Reifags and Asukafags getting triggered by one harmless Kaworufag again. Nothing to see here, folks.
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Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your shitposters fām
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>>133696655
Every time the Kaworufag is here m8. Every time.

>>133696704
>>133696671
>b-but it's a harmless joke post!
Then how come you get so anally devastated of an equally harmless joke reply post?
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>>133696697
>Moving goalposts
How am I moving goalposts? I've been sticking to the topic the entire time, unlike you who brought in irrelevant meta since the beginning.

>the fanbase's use of Lilim
I know that the fanbase used both, neither term really outweighing the other.
Furthermore, whether someone used lilin or lilim was never a determining factor if they were a 'Rebuildbabby', actually it determined if they knew the ADV translation or the actual Japanese term. Maybe by the original airing like me, or by fansubs.

>>133696743
>harmless joke reply post?
Except it wasn't harmless because it said something incorrect? Lilin has been around longer as a term than Lilim, something I proved you wrong on.
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Let's bring this thread back to what it was meant to be, okay?

Got another question: Why does Shinji get to decide about all humanity about Instrumentality?

Probably because he was inside the Eva 01 when it was chosen to be speared by the Eva Copies and start Instrumentality, okay, but why did they involve it in the first place?

Why doesn't the giant adam+rei/lilith thing just make Third Impact happen? Was it Rei's choice?
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>>133696697
>the resident kaworufag can make harmless joke posts
>everyone else can't

So let's get this straight, when you say "lilin/lilim" a shit, it's not "OK" for anyone to say "no u, angels a shit" or similar?
Because then you get triggered again?
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>>133696785
Here is my post that no one sane would take seriously:
>>133693675

Here is your reply where you get anally butthurt over no reason and then bring in metashit and something incorrect:
>>133694140

You got triggered and then your butt got set aflame with fact.
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>>133696777
>b-but it's not harmless if it says something I don't like
Holy shit, did your parents drop you on your head or something?

Try this then:
Angels are failed beings that can't wreck puny half-beings that are depressed half the time when they aren't busy destroying each other. Hell they're so shit even it's mother disowns them and would rather cûck them over with a weak psychologically disturbed human.

Are you triggered yet? Are you harmed yet?

>>133696783
>Why does Shinji get to decide about all humanity about Instrumentality?
He played his cards right with Rei, and because he's in EVA01 at the time.

>Why doesn't the giant adam+rei/lilith thing just make Third Impact happen? Was it Rei's choice?
It had already started before Rei gets there, Rei changes the terms along with Shinji.
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>>133696785
meant for >>133696777


>>133696852
>Here is my post that no one sane would take seriously:
So why are you taking a joke post in return seriously?
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>>133696879
It says something incorrect: lilin has nothing to do with Rebuild. Completely different.

>Are you triggered yet? Are you harmed yet?
Nah, I really couldn't give a shit.

I think it's funny that you have to rely on moving goalposts into meta territory once again because you got rekt on the lilin and lilim debacle.

>>133696919
>So why are you taking a joke post in return seriously?
Why would you joke about lilin being a Rebuild term? Are you retarded?
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>>133696852
Sounds like you are just butthurt you got nailed right down like the filthy kaworufag newfag you are.

>oh no they found me out, better damage control
>how did they know I was a dumb kaworufag newfag

You wanna know how we know? Because nobody would shitpost about MUH ANGELS like you do, much less get butthurt when we call you out for a dumb kaworufag.
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>>133696958
>still doing damage control
>still butthurt the angels are shit
>still butthurt about human superiority
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Third impact, Human Instrumentality, Angel's reaching lillith or adam, its all the same thing.

A big king of the hill for a reality bending, hivemind creator catalyst for evolution. They're all third impact, it just matters who'se in control.
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>>133696958
"It's OK when Kaworufags do it"
- Resident Kaworufag Autist

>It says something incorrect: lilin has nothing to do with Rebuild. Completely different.
Are you being obtuse on purpose? Even I get that the point was to call you out for a rebuild bandwagoner. Notice how most people seemed to know what you didn't?

You got double served. Pinpointed, exposed and shown to be a kaworufag who just shitposts, and then shown to be just a rebuild-baby to boot. You got so flustered by being called out you didn't even see it coming.
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>>133696783
Rei, who has Lilith's soul, decided to make Shinji the mind behind instrumentality. She actively denied Gendo when he tried to start it all. It might be because Shinji is the least terrible/broken person in the series.
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>>133696973
>>133697006
>>133697070
>MUH ANGELS like you do
What are Ramiel posters?

I guess you've proven that you really are a newfag.

But now that you've completely delved into meta and greentext I'll take that as me winning. If you want someone autistic enough that will banter with you on that you could probably try asking the textwall Reifag, I'm sure he's around here lurking somewhere. Maybe start by dumping your snow Rei and shitty cosplayer collection like you always do. Lord knows you can't do anything else like discuss.

Oh, and before I go.
Lilin > Lilim, Rebuildfag:
>https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD%BF%E5%BE%92_7%B4%80%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B2%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3)#.E3.83.AA.E3.83.AA.E3.83.B3_.28LILIN.29

lilin a shit, get triggered

No meta autism beyond this line, poor OP wants to get back to discussing Eva. Make a Rei vs. Asuka thread if you want it so badly:
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>>133697118
>Ramiel posters
Ironic waifufaggers. Not defenders of Angelkind like our retarded kaworufag autist (YOU) is.
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>>133697155
I assure you that most nonautistic f/a/gs would sooner waifu Ramiel than Rei or Asuka.
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>>133696879
>he played his cards right with Rei
>Rei changes the terms along with Shinji
So Rei ultimately had an enormous impact over mankind's future. Way to go, Rei.

So Eva01 wasn't actually necessary for Instrumentality, right? It could have happened even without it as long as Lilith and Adam came into contact, and it was by Rei's will and Shinji's decision that humanity got another chance.

>>133697060
But then again, all those things are about Adam and Lilith coming into contact.

SEELE wanted to make everyone LCL to "evolve" humanity

Adam/Angels wanted to make everyone LCL to let Angels reclaim the earth

Gendo wanted to make everyone LCL to reunite with his wife

All three parties want the same thing for different reasons, after all.

>>133697106
Well, he is the only one who treated her in a decent way desu.
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>>133697118
I'll take that as you admitting defeat actually. But then again, it's not like everyone didn't knew you were a Kaworufag who just jumped on the yaoi bandwagon anyway.

>What are Ramiel posters?
Ramiel posters funpost about Ramiel being best girl. Entirely different. World of difference.

Here's what I don't get, you're a Kaworufag right? Kaworu doesn't give a fuck about the Angels, so why do you? Even Kaworu knows they're shit.

>>133697185
>So Rei ultimately had an enormous impact over mankind's future. Way to go, Rei.
You mean literally, or figuratively?

>So Eva01 wasn't actually necessary for Instrumentality, right? It could have happened even without it as long as Lilith and Adam came into contact, and it was by Rei's will and Shinji's decision that humanity got another chance.
It was necessary insofar that it's the only real available tool for the people who wanted to start it, but othewise there's more than one way to make things go boom, yes. One being the one you mentioned.
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>>133695487
Because we love our husbando enough to learn the same language as him
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>>133697243
Are you implying I don't love my waifu until I learn Japanese?
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>>133697184
I assure you that you have to be an autistic Kaworufag to even try hiding behind Ramiel waifufaggers.

What's the matter? Can't handle that the Angels are canonically shit and you a rebuild-baby?
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>>133697304
How can you say you truly love you're waifu if you can't even speak the same language as her?
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>>133697353
>>133697242
Rei is an Angel.
Are you saying Rei is canonically shit?
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>>133697395
Rei is Lilith
Kaworu is Adam

Humans(Lilith) vs Angels(Adam)
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>>133697416
Lilith also made niggers and gay people.
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>>133697395
are you seriously pretending to NOT understand that it's implicit that "humans" refer to Lilith-derived life, and "angels" refer to Adam-derived life?
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>>133697453
...and they're all human.

Angels(Adam since you're so dense) are the niggers of the FAR species.
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>>133697389
The language of love is universal.
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>>133697494
>niggers
>faggots
>human
Nice try, tumblr.
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>most people get their Eva info from web pages that are 10-20 years old
>a lot of it is Evageeks shit
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>>133697539
>that picture
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>>133696704
It's pretty much penis envy.
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>>133697541
Still Lilith-derived life, faggit.

Angels are still the niggers of the FAR species.
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>>133697665
Okay, nigger faggot empathizer.
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>>133697621
>replying to yourself
>can't even defend his shitty Angels
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Watched the tv series and EoE few years ago and this thread made me interested again. Should I check out the movies?
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>kaworufags of all people hating on homosexuals
I don't get these people. Are they all one giant meme? Is Kaworufag just a cloak of shitposting people don to ruin EVA threads?

>>133697755
Stay clear. They're garbage.
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>>133697769
>being a homosexual
Asukafags, not even once.
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>>133697769
What does Kaworu have to do with homosexuals?
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>>133697769
The only one ruining Eva threads is you, trannyfag.
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>>133697843
Nothing.
It's just another trannyfag trying to justify homosexuality, niggers, and his shit waifu.
His purpose is to ruin Eva threads by bringing tumblr into them.
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>>133697755
They're a different continuity. Watch them and decide for yourself whether or not they're good. Eva purists can't get over 'not muh eva.'
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>>133697940
>>133697927
>>133697843
>>133697803
Honestly though what's wrong with you Kaworufag?
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So, for the angels, reaching Adam or reaching Lilith gave them the same outcome? Whiping out humanity?
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So where did angels come from?
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Watching Evangelion for the first time is a really enjoyable experience, and I believe that comes from how little you're told (or shown, really) about what's really going on behind the scenes.

That lack of understanding, for example, what angels really are, ends up seriously amplifying the most bizarre moments and turns them into straight-up horror material and instilling the viewer with a feeling of dread or something higher being at play.
Leliel is a good example of this.

What I want to know is how much of that was deliberate, and why haven't we had anything similar since. Not going to even mention Rebuilds because they're fucking retarded and just drive an interesting premise into the ground for the sake of being slightly different.
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>>133689960
no one knows shit because the only people that knew what the fuck was going on were killed or fucked off before the ending
>Seele
peaced out
>Gendo
death by rei
>Kaji
assassinated

No one else knew anything. You as the viewer don't know either because it's a fucking conspiracy, you're not suppose to know.
It also doesn't matter.
The show isn't about Adam and Lilith, that's just part of the setting.
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>>133698044
My name is Brandon, you idiot.
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>>133697769
>>133697990
Yeah seems like they divide opinions quite radically. As I'm not a fan and saw the originals somewhat recently I guess I could pass on them. (For now at least.)
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>>133698167
They are as you'd expect, movies with unlimited budget, although that doesn't always show. While they have passable production value, they aren't like NGE at all.

While NGE built and crafted as story, Rebuild is only concerned with taking said story and twisting it to produce superficial value. After three movies the characters are basically big question marks that even for a movie don't have nearly as much character as their screentime implies.

It's best understood as a doujin-type work coming from the author himself. It's fanservice of the same kind.
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>>133690195
fuck off reddit
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>>133696973
>getting triggered by angels
What a fag desu senpai
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>>133700031
>kaworufag still trying to start shit after he got BTFO
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>>133700179
>everyone in the thread knows you're a raging faggot
>therefore everyone must be a kaworufag
Okay.
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>>133700179
How did I get BTFO when I proved you wrong?
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>>133700306
>>133700260
Kaworufag, pls.
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>>133700338
I may be a Kaworufag, but at least I'm not a virgin.
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>>133700372
Neither am I. I win both.
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>>133700415
Your body pillow doesn't count.
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>>133700515
Never had one, but I'm sorry that your father took your virginity faggot.
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>>133700567
Stop projecting, not everyone has daddy issues like you.
Though I find it funny that my asshole has received more affection than your parents ever gave you in your entire life.
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>>133700613
Just a question, why do you pretend to hate homosexuals while you're clearly homosexual yourself, or at least bi-curious?

Are you really that insane?
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>>133698070
I know what you mean, and that's one of my favorite aspects of EVA; the surreal horror and ambiguous nature of the disturbing scenes you're often presented with. I assume much of it was very deliberate as Anno wrote out clear explanations for those scenes prior to production, and then cut out the details to place the viewer in the same unsettling position the characters were in.

You used Leliel as an example. According to an interview with someone who worked on the show (I can try to find it if you're interested) they originally made it blatantly obvious that Leliel was communicating with Shinji, but found that they didn't like how unsubtle it was. So, they decided to make the scene more surreal and have Leliel represented by a young Shinji in a black and white shirt to emphasize the alien incomprehensibility of the Angels.
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>>133700682
Just because I fuck dudes, doesn't mean I'm a homosexual, you faggot.
Stop trying to force gayshit on everything just because you're a trannyfag.
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>>133700713
I guess that answers my question.
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>>133700770
Good.
Now stop stalking me, I'm way out of your league and I don't fuck ugly penis manlets.
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this used to be a lilim/lilin thread
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>>133700905
Kaworufag already effortlessly won that argument hours ago.
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>>133700905
Kaworufags are crazy.
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>>133700966
>e-everyone who doesn't want to suck my dick is crazy!
No, you're just ugly.
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>>133700905
It's a Kaworufag so retarded other Kaworufags pretend he doesn't exist.
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The Angel stuff is just a plot device. The actual story distilled to its core is Shinji coming to terms with himself. Everything else is just dressing, not that it's unimportant but that it should only be understood through it's relation to the core story.
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>>133701090
>implying any other Kaworufags besides me exist
I killed them all.
Now no one will get in the way of me and my husbando.
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I have question and I don't want to make a thread about it.
How much of the supplemental material to Evangelion is worth anything? Girlfriend of Steel looks like it might be fun and I hear the Manga is interesting.
Is there an image guide to it or something or should I just jump in blind?
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>>133701725
It's all more or less trash really.

To this day the only thing that ever does justice to the characters is NGE+EoE.
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