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How the fuck does this shit work. How can some 13 year old kid

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How the fuck does this shit work. How can some 13 year old kid manage to clear out a bunch of crazy yakuza mahjong pros while I get raped by computers.

And how the hell do they build up their hands. When your hand starts with a single suit pinzu you then get flooded with fucking man tiles to ensure you cant get a flush. If you try any unique combo you have to call on tiles to get anything done only to lose half of the yaku because you have an open hand. And if youre going great some fagboy has a 1yaku hand

Even fucking football fireshot manga is more realistic than akagi
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it just works
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>>133689603
He's a gary stu.
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Akagi has magic powers.
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>>133689603
>while I get raped by computers.
Getgood.
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>>133689603
He cheats.
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Akagi cheats against them.
Computers cheat against you.
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>>133691536
>Computers cheat against you.
really, why would they.
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>>133689603
Git gud, faggit.
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>>133689603
2.0
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>>133691770
3.0
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>>133689603
You don't flirt with the tiles enough scrub.
>I get raped by computers.
You must cheat harder.
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>>133692082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mDcZGRKQ_M
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>>133689603
He cheats.
Why arent you cheating OP?
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015111906gm-0029-0000-6d956722&tw=0

?????????
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>>133689603
He's a devil that descended upon earth, when that guy was going to get killed by the Yakuza he offered his soul to the devil and then Akagi appeared.
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Nice game, but one thing I notice is a lot of people seem to often open their hand for kans. This is not a good idea in 99% of the cases.

Benefits from opening your hand for a kan:
- Slidely more fu points, which usually won't increase your hand value much

Downsides from opening your hand for a kan:
- You can't score riichi, ippatsu, menzen tsumo, ura dora, plus serval yaku have a lower value when open. This can decrease your hand value A LOT.
- You take away your option to split the kan into a pair and a triplet, limiting the speed of your hand (obviously not an issue, when the hand is far enough that this isn't an option anymore)
- You decrease the defensive potential of your hand, as you lose 3 tiles that might well be safe discards later on
- You give your opponents some inside into your hand making it easier for them to deduce which tiles they should avoid to deal.

Conclusion: Only do this in some very special cases, e.g. when aiming for San Kantsu.
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>>133695060
>You take away your option to split the kan into a pair and a triplet
Obviously meant pair plus straight here.
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>>133695060
But you can also get more dora with an open kan, it's a cool gamble and useful if you're going for low value hands like toitoi or yakuhai.
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>>133695323
True, but your opponents as well. Also, if you are still far from winning, this is pretty dangerous, since it's likely that your opponents will finish before you, and if you're close you have a good chance to get into a closed tenpai which is without a doubt worth more than the chance on lucky kan-doras.
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>>133689603
The sand in the depths of Hell is magical sand
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I don't understand mahjong.
I end up only getting complete hands from calling tiles. However when I call tiles I get no multipliers so I can't ever declare a win. since my hand isn't closed anymore.
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>>133697301
You're one of the most annoying people to play with until everyone realizes you're an idiot. Why would you waste other people's time instead of playing with bots and learning the game?
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>>133697301
Don't open your hand. Some hands are not meant to be completed, learn to identify those and play defense.
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>>133697301
google yaku
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>>133697301
Don't call unless it's a yakuhai. Learn tile efficiency to win without calling.

http://osamuko.com/tile-efficiency-101-part-1/
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>>133689603
This pretty much summarizes your question.
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>>133698063
>no nose
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>>133698063
100 reposts later and this still isn't funny.
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>>133695323
>going for toitoi
No wonder you defend open kans
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Is this an accurate description of mahjong?
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>That feel when you are one tile away from kokushi mushou and some idiot finishes his 1000 points hand before.

Man, I like mahjong, but I also fucking hate it.
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>>133697301
Sometimes you just have to give up on a hand and go defensive.
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>>133697362
I only played with bots. I'm trying to learn how to play so go sperg out somewhere else.
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>>133698063
At least use the not-completely awful version.
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>>133700341
>sperg
You're an impatient faggot who can't be bothered to learn a game before jumping in and wasting other people time. Go fuck yourself.
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>>133697301
>playing in 7447 with /a/.txt
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>>133700735
>Why is there a moonrunes over the left side of my hand?
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>>133697362
>>133697301
>tfw I do this shit on purpose
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>>133691662
Because it doesn't want to show you tits.
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>>133700374
>Akagi
>not Saki

Nope, still awful.
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>>133701069
That's the worst out of all of them.
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>>133700374
implying both aren't terrible
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This guy called a kan on turn 3 and then riichi shortly after. I spent the whole game trying to dodge it and this is what happened
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>>133701416
Well.
That's actually worse than calling riichi when you meant to tsumo.
I didn't think it was possible.
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>>133701416
THE MIND GAMES
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>call riichi
>realize my single wait is literally impossible because all 4 tiles are used up
Learned my lesson at least.
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>>133701416
I didn't know Tenhou lets you do that. It's definitely illegal in some rules.
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>>133689930
>>133691536
he only cheats like thrice or so in the entire series, and only before things get serious
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>>133701416
>>133701585
How does this happen? Don't you look at your waits and the pond before you declare riichi?
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>>133701745
When tenhou tells you to call riichi you do it god damn it
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Get in 7447 faggots.
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>>133701745
FREE SEX
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>>133701585
Its indeed tempting when you see that shiny riichi button popping up.
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>>133701745
It's called the delicious free sex button for a reason.
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>>133701745
I'm pretty new and stupid. Actually that incident made me learn the habit of checking ponds and thinking about which wait is better etc.
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>>133701585
>call riichi
>realize its a single wait on a dora tile
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>>133702078
I was waiting for you since yesterday.
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>>133702078
IT
IS
ON
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>>133702221
>open kan
>4 dora
TIME TO DIE
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>>133702221
I was >>133701860 and is not in the same game as you right now.
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>>133689603
>tfw you start learning your yaku and you stop fearing the ´´no multiplier´´
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You just realized that Akagi is shit. Congratz.

Go watch Kaiji instead.
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What do you use to practice with bots?
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>>133702491
I just use the Tenhou bots.
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>>133702874
you can't beat the flow when it's not with you man
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>>133702491
Saikyo no mahjong
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Is this better than akagi?
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>>133703315
I haven't really played it for more than a year.
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>>133703543
>tfw you will never ever read Tetsuya
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>>133703543
It's fucking boring
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>>133702078
why not 7447?
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>>133702078
2:4
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Played like absolute shit but won by 36k. Do you guys not know the yaku or something? People kept putting internals as their first 4-5 discards.
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>>133704190
>people kept putting internals as their first 4-5 discards
Gotta keep dem honors! They look special they must be valuable.
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>>133704190
Where you at, faggot? I'll take you on.
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>>133704190
I'll fite u nigger, stop playing with bots.
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>>133702524
Tenhou bots only discard what they draw.
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>>133704543
I'm pretty sure I'm worse than you.
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>>133704970
Go back to 8000 nigger and play me.
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>that death race to first/second place
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What the fuck is with all the tripfags and attention whoring in this thread?
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>>133705694
WHY are you not using a tripcode?
I bet you play as NoName too.
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>>133705746
Can't whore when we're in a perpetual state of death.
End our suffering, Ritz.
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Saber plz
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>>133706706
not even trying/10
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I've never played 2p mahjong before. That was pretty bad.
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>3:0
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has he beaten washizu yet.
how many years has it been.
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>>133689603
>How can some 13 year old kid manage to clear out a bunch of crazy yakuza mahjong pros while I get raped by computers.
get gud, fgt
>And how the hell do they build up their hands. When your hand starts with a single suit pinzu you then get flooded with fucking man tiles to ensure you cant get a flush.
learn to read the pond. and the flow of the game. Don't break things apart unless you have to, but don't be afraid to, either.
And remember winning with a shitty hand is still better than losing.
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>>133707176
No. Almost 19
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>>133695816
>The sand in the depths of Hell is magical sand
What did he mean by this?
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FUCKDAMNSHITCUNTS WHY? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE DEAL INTO MY NICE HAND.

SECOND TURN. SECOND FUCKING TURN.

WHY DID NONE OF YOU THINK OF THE SUJI? SUJI ARE IMPORTANT YOU KNOW? DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET HANDS COMPLICATED ENOUGH TO HAVE A SUJI TRAP BY THE SECOND TURN? "But you just di-" I KNOW, SO FUCKING DEAL INTO IT OUT OF RESPECT

DAMN I'M MAD.
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I'll just discard the east now. It looks completely safe.
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It's an anime
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>>133708536
I guess it just happens when your enemies are too good or your wait is incorporated in their melds. Also, it's the kandora why would they risk it? Even with the sujis when I see a better tile to throw I still defer it.
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>>133708878
His throws have been 100% safe tiles if you look at it carefully. I assume that he's a pretty good player given that he knows how to defend properly who knows how to prioritize the safest tiles.
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>>133701416
Wow, what a stupid idiot
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>>133708536
GIT GUD
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Getting better every day, maybe I'll change from NoName soon.
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>>133689603
>not just being a dora jew and going for tanyaos all day long
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>>133695060
Open Kan is a great idea when you want to pull safe tiles from the dead wall.
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>>133709497
But if the tile passes, don't you have 3 safe tiles in your hand now?
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>>133709566
Isn't that only safe against the person who played it?
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>>133689603
Hes the man that will rule the Majhong Underworld
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>>133689603
You have to feel the flow of the tiles
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>>133710738
It's against everyone as long as noone changes their hand and even after that it remains a lot safer than most other tiles. There really is no reason to go for open kan, except of course when your hand is already open you are going for San Kantsu (which is hardly ever relevant).
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Which room are you lot in? 7447?
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>>133711990
It was 8000, but it seems only one person is left.
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>not being able to read the flow
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>>133694433
You mean that hulk guy at the start?
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>>133689603
It's because you don't know nor understand what Akagi is thinking.
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>>133702401
I remember building a pinfu without knowing you had to have a 2sided wait.
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Sorry about that extremely poor game folks. I had to go do stuff at the beginning and cook, so I only got to see maybe one round of the game.
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>>133713859
I was in the middle of fapping when it started, so I was kinda hoping someone would go out quickly.
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>3:0
anyone???
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>>133713969
I've had that happen, I just quickly finshed off with two windows open and then went for round 2 after the game was over. Still, I wish we didn't have queue times long enough that going off and starting other stuff is a viable option.
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>>133708536
wow anon, i feel sorry for you, even i that never played the game know how perfect your hand is
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>>133689603
>How the fuck does this shit work. How can some 13 year old kid manage to clear out a bunch of crazy yakuza mahjong pros while I get raped by computers.
Post your nose
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>>133711990
why the change was made?
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>>133714474
??
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>>133714373
>>133714474
>>133714583
Speak English, faggots.
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>>133714474
It's never been 8000. It's just one faggot.
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>>133714645
m8 fuck you, its 4 am here, you can understand what i said
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>I'll be fine, even if I deal in!
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>Akagi thread

Shit tons mahjong discussion

>Saki thread

Girls and sex
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>>133715096
That's because people got salty when we did more than the usual X:0 to summon players.
>>133714645
Fuck you, that question is a non question so I wanted clarification. I implied confusion in the hopes he would pick up on it and further elucidate his concerns. Namely, what fucking change he was blathering about.
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>>133715350
Because typing "What?" and not looking like a 12 year old is so much to ask?
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Double Ron
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>>133715454
Yes. I was feeling lazy.
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>>133715486
That isn't an excuse, faggot.
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>>133715096
People don't watch Saki for the mahjong.
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>>133715867
Disgusting.
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alright thanks for games lads
it was nice roning you all :^)
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>>133715894
Why would you shitpost in a semi-nice thread like this?
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>>133715880
You've probably been asked this many times in your life, but are you a homosexual?
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>>133708536
You shouldn't have called riichi with this hand.
With Chitoitsu + 4 Dora + 1 Aka-Dora you already have 7 han - at least haneman.
With a hand this high calling riichi is a bad idea, because your only concern should be to finish it as soon as possible, not to increase the value further, and calling riichi will hinder this, since it will likely make your opponents go into betaori.
As a rule of thumb, if you have mangan or higher, don't call riichi. Doing so is a common beginners mistake.
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>>133715618
It's good enough for me, so it's going to have to be enough for you anon.
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>losing 18000 points in one hand

Is this how despair feels like?
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1:0
Yes 7447, as is proper
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>>133716050
You're at the threshold of it. I think losing an 8-han hand to a 1-han yakuhai is worse.
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>>133716083
Losing a yakuman to a 1000 point hand is true despair
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>>133716083
>Don't deal in even once for the whole game, since I get shit hands all the time and mainly defend
>Opponents play hyper offensivley the whole time, yet never play into each other as well
>Tsumos everyhwere putting me into last place
>4th south round, I get a first turn riichi with a hand worth at least 12k and a ryanmen wait
>noone deals in
>~10th or so turn, opponent calls riichi
>Gets ippatsu on his hell wait
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Akagi is total nonsense like most gambling series.

>hurr i just happen to get the exact tiles/hand i want
>hurr these yakuza don't just kill me after they lose to avoid paying me because i have plot armor
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I've played you niggers so many times already.
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>>133716236
>hurr these yakuza don't just kill me after they lose to avoid paying me because i have plot armor
He always made sure this wouldn't happen by bringing in the police or another mafia organization backing him up.
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>>133716206
At least you're not that faggot that got yakuman ron'd in the first round of the game.
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>>133716236
>>hurr i just happen to get the exact tiles/hand i want
>he can't into The Flow
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Will people please also use >>>/jp/14262879? It's currently dying but the /jp/ threads are usually eternal
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>>133716396
I'm there already for a long time.
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>>133716438
Same here.
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>>133716396
I am new to mahjong but I've been lurking it since I started actually playing.
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>>133716438
>>133716448
>>133716476
And yet it's usually as quiet as a ghost. I hate all of you.
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Fuck, I had 6 dora that round too.
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>>133716581
I'm in 0000 lately trying to rank up.
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Post your stats.
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>>133716581
Sorry, I'll try to stop by more often.

We have 3 in queue right now by the way if anyone wants to play
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>>133716640
I am glad that of all the people to ron me that round, it wasn't you. That way I only got off with a couple nicks
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Game froze, trying f5
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poor Stoike
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>>133717005
Aye, RIP me. That S2 was abysmal though
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>>133717018
What was your wait? Haku?
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Sorry Laura, but I needed to try do something to claw my way back. I was rather hoping for a Ron. Praise Diana.
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>>133717035
4s. It was a furiten tile for the guy on my right(two moonrunes) so I was hoping it'd be thrown down by someone trying to dodge him.
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>>133717102
Sad that you got rekt by a 1-han hand. Something like my post >>133716083 happened to you immediately kek
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>tfw the flow is real
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>>133717128
Yeah. Imagine if I could've drawn the final Hatsu. My dick would've been diamonds.

Here's the game in question for those who want to see how not to play mahjong;
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015111921gm-0009-7447-b5efc2dd&tw=3
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>>133689603
It's fucking magic, dude.
They talk about how he can "feel" which tile is coming next. That's impossible.
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>>133717154
I was wondering why you didn't just go for broke with the honor tile wait. I guess it still ended well for you since you weren't the last even after getting disconnected.
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>>133717154
Sorry man. I wanted to run off with whatever cheap hand I could get. There have been times where I've waited for a bigger hand, ended up dealing into someone else's sanbaiman, and getting knocked completely out of 1st. Better to be safe than sorry.
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>>133717350
Fuck your back to back hanemans. What's with that mate
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>>133717207
Because insofar as am aware, an honour wait other than Haku would've done literally nothing for me. Plus the 4s might've actually hit the table, either from UNIVERSEHe would've tsumo'd it sadly or the other guy being furiten, or from Kanye trying to avoid getting ron'd
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>>133717451
Kanye here. The moment I saw you calling the Hatsu and the Chun I immediately went to betaori. It's highly unlikely that you're getting something out from me. I was just playing for keeps after waza got that large lead
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>That Hon-Rou-Tou Toi-Toi Hon-itsu plus honors, killed by an ipatsu tsumo on one of the two left for the person to draw.

Ah, just shoot me.
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>>133717504
That's fair. I'd have done the same in your situation. I have managed to pull around a complete turnaround via daisangen before so I'd be wary of the reverse happening.
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>>133717574
Unless you're an idiot or with a very very good hand that's the only thing to do, no excuses.
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>>133714434
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>>133718167
The absolute madman.
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>>133689603
that feeling whne your 2 side wait is killed in a ippatsu

really, fuck me
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If you start with 2 dragons. Should you always pon the 3rd dragon if someone plays it?

What if you have 2 winds that are neither dealer nor your own seat? Pon, or keep as pair, or dump when you cut away your most useless tiles?
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>>133718250
Bend over.
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>>133718301
It depends, I usually pon dragons because it's good you can just call tiles without worrying about yaku. Basically good for cheap quick win, if you need points it's not that great. As for winds it depends on my hand, usually I'll just keep them as a pair unless I already have some way to get yaku with an open hand.
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>>133718301
>If you start with 2 dragons. Should you always pon the 3rd dragon if someone plays it?
As I usually say, it depends on the situation. It depends on your current hand, the position you're in, your score, your objectives, etc. If you're South and aiming to bump the East then pon it and go for the quick yakuhai. If it's midgame and you're in a tight spot or someone else had already riichi'd then you'd better throw them as safe tiles. A lot of things hang over your decision on what you will do on that round. It's also a different situation if the yakuhai are the doras.

>What if you have 2 winds that are neither dealer nor your own seat? Pon, or keep as pair, or dump when you cut away your most useless tiles?
Only pon it if it helps you in making a quick hand like an open honitsu or a yakuhai. Otherwise just keep it if you have no other pair for the pinfu or throw it out like any useless honor tiles.
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>>133718465
>>133718493
What about in this situation.
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>>133718834
Did you fucking read what I said at all?
>If you're South and aiming to bump the East then pon it and go for the quick yakuhai.
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>>133689603
that double kan was intense as fuck
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Wide
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>>133719083
Sometimes I hate myself for laughing at the most shallow things.
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>>133719083
Oooooh i get it
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Why the fuck is Washizu so badass? He fucking slaps the shit out of Buddha without a second thought.
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>>133717129
>the flow
go read kaiji gaiden
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>>133717193
>They talk about how he can "feel" which tile is coming next
>implying that's not just a ruse to mindfuck your opponent
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>>133719750
>not believing in the "feel"
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Why is Akagi's hair white?
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>>133720136
because he is a demon. Same with his enemies.
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FKMT please.
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>>133719816
>belieb in the heart of teh tiles xd
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>>133720724
what happened here? Not-akagi chopped the guy's fingers off or something?
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>>133720724
Why would Akagi do that?
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>>133720877
>>133720881

>not reading GtK
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>>133723017
I am reading a bunch of manga right now. Is it better than Ten?
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>>133723051

It only has one arc of mahjong, so yes. Also it has more action than most of FKMT stuff. But it has some other shitty ones like when they start talking about economic shit and stocks.
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>>133723306
Morita is literally Kaiji with less chin and more hair.
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>>133723306
I'll read it then. I'm up for something different.
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>>133719651
I thought this manga was about mahjong
This is not mahjong.
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>>133723775
Washizu got a little lost, that's all.
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>>133695060
>actually knowing how this chinese domino game is played

I watched Akagi like Kaiji if I didn't know any of the rules to the gambles.
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>>133723989
>not knowing Chinese solitare
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>>133719651
>>133723859
There's going to be an actual manga about Washizu's escapades, right?
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>>133725868
There is one about when he was young.

Washizu enma no touhai
I wouldnbt mind if FKMTKrazy would pick it up after they get up to date with Akagi
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>>133718167
>2448x3264
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>>133727443
He has a big nose.
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>>133727443
its just the resolution of my phone
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