Director: Tomoki Kyoda (Eureka Seven)
>Specializes in animating 2D mechs
>He did the storyboard for the first FMP anime
I trust them pretty much completely when it comes to adaptations of completed source material. There's no reason for an original ending, so Bones predilection for terrible writing, story direction and endings won't play a factor. When it comes to just adapting things faithfully and occasionally inserting great animation, Bones is pretty high up there.
I finished TSR a day ago with my brother. I don't know if I should like Gauron or not. Are the twins really girls?
Are you for real?
>There's no reason for an original ending, so Bones predilection for terrible writing, story direction and endings won't play a factor.
You're right! We have the source of material for that.
It didn't have to be this way.
Reminder that it was mainly GONZO who did FMP and that Kyoda also is an extremely component mecha anime director who also was an assistant director for RahXephon. Also Concrete Revolutio has had really solid animation this season so I can trust them to make this work.
AO's problem was 100% writing and not directing though.
>hating on Bones
They're making AOTS right now.
I'm super ok with this. They have the entire plot already written out for them so they can't fuck it up and Bones is top tier animation. Noragami's been great so far, Kekkai Sensen was good, and Concrete Revolution is on a good path. Bones is in a good spot right now.
>It has produced numerous series, including RahXephon, Wolf's Rain, Scrapped Princess, Eureka Seven, Angelic Layer, Darker than Black, Soul Eater, Ouran High School Host Club and two adaptions of the Fullmetal Alchemist manga along with Star Driver, Gosick, and Space Dandy.
I ain't mad.
I really need this confirmed.
Kyoda definitely put out a stinker but Aikawa is a truly awful fucking writer. Gatoh is doing the scripts so I'm not worried about something just going off the reservation.
This can still be salvaged with Mikuni Shimokawa, Osamu Horiuchi, and Tsuruoka Yota. Gatoh being writer is good so we don't get shit Bones writers who don't understand the story or make shit original endings.
He was pretty much dead after he tried to take over TDD. He was left on life support in TSR and even said he was slowly dying. Plus he didn't really have much of an influence as TSR was all Sousuke's story, he just kinda guided it which was fine.
When did Gatoh say he regretted how he ended the LNs? I don't remember, can anyone provide a source?.
And if it's true I just hope he doesn't go for the now popular sad/bittersweet/edgy ending and kills one of the main characters, or make the bad guys win and reset the world or whatever they wanted to do.
>All those shitty new shows
How the mighty have fallen.
>Bones was founded by Sunrise staff members Masahiko Minami, Hiroshi Ōsaka and Toshihiro Kawamoto in October, 1998. One of their first projects was collaborating with Sunrise on Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' on Heaven's Door, a feature film based on the Cowboy Bebop anime series.
Kyoani hasn't done mech choreography since FMP. Bones typically does all fight choreography better than anyone.
Soul Eater managed to consistently impress me. I never would've expected some of the amazing animation and fight choreography it delivered out of a 50-odd episode shounen manga adaptation.
For all the shit it got, even the Couragepunch fight was exceptionally well done, visually speaking.
That show is so bad that they don't even acknowledge it's existence in their official website.
Even Captain Earth, for all it's writing hiccups still consistently animated till the end.
The biggest decider is their budget
If they get a Eureka tier budget it'll be great
If they get a Chaika tier budget than RIP it's fucking doomed
>If they get a Eureka tier budget it'll be great
>It feels like they're getting their hands on everything now
>Vagabond tv anime adaptation
>mfw Yutapon is the lead animator
Shows don't generally change VAs barring someone dying or whatever. VAs are viewed as being the characters themselves, so it's a somewhat lofty position.
They're not going to be switching VAs for any of the major characters. That should be the least of your concerns. Dubbing might be a bit different for those that care.
I think he said there's really nothing else for DtB at the moment but this was 6 years ago. That was a long time ago and they could easily bring back DtB now since there was so much story to explore. 2017 is also 10th anniversary of DtB which is why I'm hopeful.
Studio A :
Studio B :
Studio C :
Boku no Hero Academia (upcoming, possibly Spring)
Studio D :
Bungou Stray Dogs (upcoming, possibly Winter)
Show By Rock! S2 (upcoming, possibly Summer)
If BONES really doing FMP, which studio will doing this ?
yfw they pull a Bones original ending
Are you talking about Sergio Pablos Animation?
I think Bones would first try to find a Japanese animation studio first, before they would seriously even consider a Western studio. Aside from being much cheaper and there being less hassle having to communicate, Bones is obligated to try to hire small local studios anyway, and those studios are always looking for a contract.
It's in good hands. The mech battles in FMP were terrible with the previous adaptations.
>Tomoki Kyoda (Eureka Seven)
Wow, there goes the last remnants of Haruhi S3 ever happening.
I want know what they're saying!
Please, please let there be 2D mechs. I know Bones can do it well.
>It's already confirmed to be 2d mech. It's just Bones that's not confirmed.
2D Mech confirmed already means its either Sunrise or BONES because everyone else is exclusively doing CGI nowadays. And BONES makes more sense than Sunrise because Sunrise is busy milking Gundam for Bandai.
If they manage the sponsor & funding like KLK I'm more than happy.
Thank god, Eureka 7 is better than anything Kyoani has ever made.
>Eureka 7 is better than anything Kyoani has ever made.
I rewatched all FMP for the first time in like 8 years and it turned out way less entertaining than I remembered it, with TSR being especially unsatisfying and lacking in everything besides animation. Sure Gonzo's FMP has some bad direction here and there, some episodes were plain terrible (pic related), but it doesn't leave the bad aftertaste unlike TSR.
The question - did anyone else think the same or it's just me being a fag?
I don't exactly agree with you, but maybe it's because the first season is much more conclusive, while TSR unavoidably opens more plotlines than it managed to close in the end.
I'm sure some people think the same but I don't understand why. TSR had much more memorable moments than S1 and I almost never recommend anyone to pickup FMP because they'd have to subject themselves to S1.
I get it was faithful but I don't think any scenes in it had any impact.
TSR I thought was much better directed and well paced than the first season.
The first season had so many episodes that felt like a drag to sit through including the competition one you posted and the whole Helmajistan mini-arc that had that anticlimactic showdown between Gauron and Sousuke, when he finally catches up to him the battle basically ended offscreen.
>as long as it's not Gonzo or JC Staff I'm good.
Gonzo animated the first fucking season, you fuckface.
If there was any studio that should make this, it should be either Gonzo or Kyoani, since they both had a part in making this show.
>implying Gonzo was ever good
>implying its rotting corpse would be even worthy of momentary consideration
shit ending confirmed
Bones is one of the only studios I've seen that manages to have painfully drawn out climaxes and STILL manages to make it seem rushed.
there might be 10 whole seconds of good animation though
If anything, I hope whoever dubs this doesn't fucking up the Dub cast. They already have an established dub cast to begin with. Though with the way dubbing has been late (extremely and utterly shit) I'm afraid they might even mess this one up.
>At least with kyoani there was a guaranteed quality
>Implying there would any quality in FMP if it was made by them.
>Implying they wouldn't just make it look exactly like the last four anime they've made.
>Wanting to subject FMP to that.
>it's gonna be KyoAni FMPfags said
>it's gonna be Takemoto FMPfags said
Sorry fags, Takemoto turned full shotacon.
This is actually the best option after KyoAni.
Bones KNOW 2d mecha.
Now I really just hope Bones doesn't fuck up the animation.
To those who wached FMA:B. Was the animation consistent? Especially the battles.
Nice. Guaranteed to have fantastic 2D animated mecha battles.
>My only issue is that they won't end it fucking properly somehow and we'll get some anime original bullshit.
Enough with this shit. It's confirmed Gatoh is handling all scripts and doing the writing. It will be faithful to a tee and any original changes made are ones Gatoh approves because he thinks they will improve the story like he did for s1 and TSR. Bones shitty' writers aren't getting anywhere near FMP.
It's going to be the new season, what the fuck have you not been following this announcement at all?
The series composition and some of the scripts for the previous adaptations were done by the author himself, it they were not faithful it's because Gatoh wanted to change and/or add things like the Helmajistan arc of Season1.
I doubt this will be a complete reboot, unless they are going to make this a 4 cours or more series to cover all the LNs from the begining
>the previous adaptations weren't faithful to begin with?
Nigga, what? They expanded some parts like making an original arc in S1 and some more developed characters in S3, but most of the adapted scenes are word-for-word from the novels.
This better be more Fumoffu. Season 1 and TSR were so fucking shit when it came to the mechs and the drama.
I mean a fucking Lambda Driver? Seriously? Who comes up with this shit?
Just stick to comedy, Mr. Author.
>GOAT Mecha Animation confirmed
>At least an 8/10 OST confirmed
I don't know this director's history with adaptions but based on E7 and AO but I doubt he'll be able to mess too much with the writing
You guys are forgetting Producer Itou said most of the staff are experienced with FMP. So they've worked on s1 or tsr. Are there any Bones animators and staff members with experience working on past FMP anime.
Kekkai was virtually unknown before the anime aired so I don't think they needed much clout with that, and FMP is a bit old and I get the impression it's more popular on here than in Japan, but then again Gatoh has connections in studios so if he had any influence, he probably picked them for the mechs. I'm not complaining though, they're output has gotten much better this year after the last few years of relative decline.
I watched all three seasons while they were airing, then went back and re-watched them last spring. The first time I liked Fumoffu the most, but the second time around I definitely liked the first season most. But you're right, there are some downright terrible episodes. I never thought much of TSR. The animation is very nice, but the story doesn't do much for me, and the constantly resurrecting Gauron bullshit is just fucking stupid.
Most of the shitty episodes were Gonzo's fault, since they were originals not adapted from the novels.
Resurrected Gauron is a source issue thing though. It's kind of why TSR kills the shit out of him in almost comically over the top fashion.
Hero Academia and Full Metal Panic. Bones will fuck both their endings up and it will be fucking glorious. I still need to watch the previous Full Metal Panics but I heard I can skip Fufumufu. apparently it's FMP's Carnival Phantasma
Is it? It's been years but I remember it being one of the biggest titles in the West when the anime came out (obviously not as big as the stuff that aired on cable but on the internet). It was the first time I'd even heard of a light novel at least, but I was just a kid then so my memory could be off. I seem to recall the new season announcement not even reaching the top of trending before being bumped off on Japanese twitter though.
How old are those sales though? Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy if it were true and it still had an active fanbase, I just haven't seen much talk about it on the few nip sites I visit. But I'd love to be proven wrong.
Old doesn't mean much for seiyuu. For an example, in Saint Seiya Omega you had Midorikawa (45 yo at that time) doing a 13 years old MC, and Mizushima (57yo at the time) doing a 12 years old main character.
And in Soul of Gold, the main characters, in their twenties, are played by seiyuus in their sixties. Ryouichi Tanaka is 68 years old and still played a 23 years old character.
>This would be like FMA:B in terms of adaptation.
Wrong. The creator of the light novels himself is writing this anime just as he wrote for the other seasons. He has a lot of experience writing for anime too so he knows how to pace a lot better now. It won't be faithful to the novels though, it will surpass them just as the other anime adaptations have.
>How old are those sales though?
Very recent, as of like 1 month ago when Fujimi Shobo updated their FMP page.
I finished season 1, loved it, and am currently snoring my way through Fumoffu (kind of funny, but SoL isn't my thing), but one thing always confused me.
There is on episode, near the beginning of season 1, the one where Kurt, Sagura, and Chidore are trapped in the forest against Gauron, and there's like fucking 10 panty shots of Chidore. There were none before, and there would be none in any episodes after.
It was just interesting to me.
The most I expect from the Bones aspect will be KyoAni memes retooled to replace them with Bones' name, as evidenced by this thread. Bones just doesn't have fanatics on the same scale, this thread is actually some of the most praise for them I've ever seen on /a/, and half of it's jokes. Although the new season will be a prime target for shitposters so nothing can be ruled out, but it will be obvious bait on the level of sales threads.
yfw bones original ending
The only animation studio that has competent 2D mecha animators left besides Sunrise, and people complain when they are in charge of FMP.
Want me to post that one Captain Earth sakuga webm?
I was a Bones fan until Wolf's Rain. The massive recaps killed all pacing and I gave up on them ever since. They are NOT bad animators, they are very good in fact. But they really needed someone else to write the scripts. FMP in their hands can work. They are not my first choice, but I am pretty sure the result would be acceptable. Gatoh would be in charge so it would be okay.
I don't have too much problem with Bones, but let's not pretend like KyoAni was not the first choice. They are just too busy with other projects.
>Captain Earth was a mistake.
A beautiful mistake. A show with a massive budget but with a sorry excuse for a script. Who's idea was it to put ALL the interesting characters and their development in a Magazine comic anyway?
Oh well, Gatoh would take care of it.
FMP has been in my backlog for a while. Guess I'm gonna wait and see how they'll direct this, might be a reboot like they did with FMA. Bones is my favorite studio anyway, so that raises my interest.
All things they've done before and can do again.
And they were obviously the first choice since Gatoh loves working with them and is friends with Takemoto.
It's not terrible, but it shows mecha is outside KyoAni's strengths.
Technically it's well done but whoever directed it doesn't really have an eye for making mecha action look interesting.
I find that hard to believe when it's been in development for at least 4 years now. Kyoani most likely told Gatoh they would do Amagi but not FMP. Still hoping they do Fumoffu s2 if announced.
Yes they have, but not combined like the new FMP requires. TSR and Kyokai were one cour and all their two cour shows are moe moe SoL.
I bet Gonzo was more of an option than them, to be honest.
It's not that hard to believe, basically the same thing happened with Little Busters. They probably wanted KyoAni to do it right after Clannad AS but KyoAni was busy then 3 years later they had to go with another studio instead.
What's your point? They have the experience to do all of that but somehow won't be able to because it's 2 cour? Makes no sense.
And actually no Gonzo these days is much smaller than they were back then. Their company profile says they only have 46 employees now
>might be a reboot like they did with FMA.
You have no idea what you are talking about. There is NO MARKET to reboot what amounts to 3 cour worth of material. Especially since the original shows still hold up animation wise. Reboot = guaranteed to lose money.
>>A show with a massive budget
It does. It has TWO cour. That almost never happens for an original anime. And the only way to get 2 cour is to pay out the nose for it.
The worst part? They could probably fit the story into 1 cour and the plot and pacing would have been much better.
It's a 2:30 recap movie with a new 5 minute sequence at the beginning and a little epilogue at the end. The new material is like, 100% separate from the rest of the movie, it's like an unexplained flash-forward to a future point in time after the main story.
It has been subbed.
I haven't watched it since it aired and I don't remember anything that happened either. I just know the general main cast and the whispered were like encyclopedias or something and I remember a handful of the most useless scenes out of context, like Souske microwaving a watch and Chidori losing her shit over melon bread. This is going to be confusing as hell but I'm mostly in it for the nostalgia.
Well, the cliffnotes is that some time in the 1980's military technology suddenly and without explanation advanced drastically and history diverged from real life history because of it. Among other things, the Cold War never ended.
Additionally, children born on December 24, 1984, became what was known as the Whispered - they were innately geniuses, and each of them was unique and had incredibly advanced knowledge that none of the others of their kind had, so they're each invaluable.
Thanks, man. I'd totally forgotten that stuff but now that you say it, it does seem familiar. I don't think the LN translations had finished (if they ever did) by the time I moved on, but I remember everyone hijacking a ship and Tessa's brother. I guess that stuff is for the upcoming season. I probably remember the ln illustrations better than the story, actually. I hope the character designs stick with Shiki Douji's old art style, it had a real charm to it, not that her new one isn't nice too though.
>It will be faithful to a tee and any original changes made are ones Gatoh approves because he thinks they will improve the story like he did for s1 and TSR.
The TSR was terrible
Your taste is shit.
Sure he was a newbie director at the time and didn't know much about how to pace an anime with a prolonged narrative, but he's gotten so much better over the years as shown by Disappearance and Hyouka. He could easily make the new FMP 10x better than TSR if he had the chance.
>it's not KyoAni
Hope they keep the old VA cast.
>I can tell which ones are Satsuki Yukino and Yukana, but who are the men?
The one in the cap is Gatoh. You know, the author.
The guy on the right corner is the Kadokawa representative responsible for all past FMP anme adaptations to date. Basically his the guy Kadokawa sent out to manage their IP and negotiate with anime studios.