The raw provider was kill, maybe this one just has a retarded scanner. 95% of scan quality comes from the RAW itself, although more competent scanlators can make it look smoother by killing more detail. If it's a HQ raw like a tankoban scan, even a retard or a person using GIMP can make it look good. That being said, if MS and Baidu are using the same RAWS, the difference in scanlator ability is obvious.
>I really loved Mommy...
Even in this panel, he's touching his chin. Jesus Christ Ishida.
Am I the only person seeing a child's high chair + broken birdcage? Am I crazy?
This chapter killed me. After all he went through, Haise wants to be loved by the same guy who made holes in his skull and treats him like a quinque. At least Akira isn't hitting him.
Incoming breakdown after Akira reveal.
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Well made a mistake in 1 year
mfw /a/ did a better job with translation and pages yesterday
noticed this, it actually choked me up man
>Ui: Shit at this rate we'll arrive too quickly so lets take the long way around
Jesus fucking Christ Ui!
He's not going to stop being Haise any more than he stopped being Kaneki. Tokyo Ghoul is big on people having multiple "selfs", this will really just be Kaneki's third transformation. The specifics of his being might be different after this but he will still be the same person to some degree.
Kaneki's mom probably killed herself but kaneki is just repressing the memories.
>"like the maggot mommy was, I too..."
He tried to get himself killed by Arima, but failed to die, will the Ishida ride ever end.
Yeah, I mean even before this revelation there was the theme of Kaneki becoming like his mother through overworking himself for selfish reasons, but now there are even more similarities.
does anybody actually understand what the fuck is going on with kaneki/haise conversation, or have an insightful take on it,
it doesnt make any sense for kaneki to want to die considering everything he did in the first series, it would mean that he was lying about all the relationships he made and it wouldnt make any sense at all. the only thing i can come up with is that those impulses are actually kaneki repressing his desires, which is why they showed his mother earlier, so haise is choking kaneki into submission as a result of psychic trauma and trying to repress all his true feelings, which changes at the end of the chapter when he tells haise to go to sleep
kaneki also refrencing haise saying he will "save him" from their conversation in the auction arc, but is mocking haise because he cant actually do it, but how does that tie in with anything else being said afterwards, unless haise is just the result of kaneki repressing all his true feelings, but im honestly just confused. its possible the translations are just faulty and theres nothing to even understand here
Oh fuck. He failed to die because of Hide who told him to fight with all he's got and that's what made Arima use him as a weapon instead.
Hide once again best boy..Saving his faggot friend from committing suicide.
I feel like people keep forgetting the first chapter of this god damn manga.
It's a tragedy. Literally any time there is a redeeming moment it will be met with 2 crushing defeats.
So far in :re, I haven't bought any of the "Kaneki return" moments, and known he wasn't coming back.
But this time, I think the "Kaneki" personality may actually make an appearance outside Haise's mind next chapter.
I wonder if my instinct is right on this.
>it doesnt make any sense for kaneki to want to die considering everything he did in the first series, it would mean that he was lying about all the relationships he made and it wouldnt make any sense at all
Really? I've thought Kaneki was pretty obviously suicidal in the first manga.
Reread chapter 140, he was repeating his mothers mistake of working himself into an early grave under the guise of "protecting everyone" but really only doing it for himself.
Fuck, what does this say about Hide?
I'm scared anons, hold me.
He wants to have many people have an opinion on him in some way whether it be good or bad, then he wants to die in a spectacular fashion.
That's probably why he makes so many relationships
Kaneki's been reading too many books.
He probably thinks abuse is just a part of love.
At the end of TG, Kaneki wanted to "sleep and have a happy dream" - death, or maybe his life as Haise.
"I'd had enough of dreaming", if it was said by Kaneki means he's had enough of living as "Haise"
yeah its true kaneki acknowledges this, but then why would he even bother having any shred of chracter development, from him learning to be a ghoul, sympathizing with ghouls, learning to control his power, having a reason to fight, breaking free of jason etc. it doesnt make sense to me for him to be wholly suicidal.
He touched his chin when he said he liked his mum in TG and it really fits in perfectly what we know of Kaneki's personality imo.
>tfw your qt underling who you took on a date is more interested in getting your autistic former boss and your skunk-haired fuccboi of a co-worker to noitice her more than you
>could've killed himself at any moment (after he gained control of his Kagune anyway)
>could've yet Tsukiyama finish him off
>could've let Jason finish him off
>could've let investigators finish him off
>decided to survive
>decided to protect
>somehow he's suicidal now
Better Ui than Hirako
yeah, I like the idea that maybe this is how it started
like a nervous habit that's been programmed into him, whenever he has to lie, in order to make sure nobody hates him or gets angry with him
like when Touka blamed him for her fuck up and he just took it
now I just think he did that out of fear and not to just be nice
yeah, maybe you're right
it does make a lot of sense that this is the reason he's fucked up
I was just scared of it being Ishida making him suffer more
as fan service
It was already hinted at/explicitly said by Touka.
Still unlikely, anon. Who's gonna help her clean her ears?
He shows the pattern of behaviour as Haise towards Arima. Sees him as a positive father figure despite the abuse.
And towards Rize >>133636930
If Amon killed him, that would've been cool but he said he wanted to die to Arima (the man who turns SS rank ghouls into fodder) while no one was around and while he was protecting no one.
He was literally bargaining with his suicidal tendencies, keeping them at bay with this bullshit. He's obviously not THAT suicidal, but apparently it was important to his personality. It explains why he kept playing hero.
What's cooler, getting in a fight with a practical no-name in the ghoul world and dying, or getting in a fight with a known Death God, lasting for more than a minute and then die.
i knew this was going to be relevant
>Kaneki stays with the CCG for reasons, still does his own thing though
>Arima calls him to his office and gives him a present
>A nostalgic feeling ukaku quinque
>cut to big bro looking worried on rooftops
Does Matsuri and maybe even Ui (shit we will arrive too early at this rate) want Sasaki to get killed ?
He could still be talking about Shuu I guess but he left Sasaki to die against Takizawa already.
Depends how you define "suicidal".
I've been depressed for years, and I just feel tired and would welcome death, though I wouldn't make a consciously active effort to take my own life.
Are you people stupid?
It doesn't have the shiny shit filter IS had, it looks miles better than the garbage IS had just because of that.
The rest is the raws obviously not having that good quality.
>Hide turns out to be Kaneki's only real family
We thought that Ishida was only going to give us more suffering.
And now he makes even the past suffering worse.
well, now he has training from Arima and more fighting experience AND Dove knowledge.
Pretty sure with a bit more plot, he can take on and die to Arima/Eto/Whaleman all at once.
>Saiko will never be your bartender
So...that happened. A recap:
>Matsuri's still a faggot, going on about MUH CREDIT
>Ui is actually incredibly autistic, listing a shit load of train stations and reminiscing about melon bread with Ihei. Should have known he was autistic, seeing as he perfectly used the Autism Dodge in the Anteiku Raid. And he's been deliberately taking the long way through the building, cos he apparently does't want to arrive too quickly.
>Eto crashed the helicopter...but there was a survivor. YOU HAD ONE JOB, ETO.
>Shirazu and Saiko are the last ones standing against Noro. Not sure for how long though.
>Sasaki is jobbing again.
>Everything we knew about Kaneki was a lie. He was just incredibly suicidal and wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. And his mother was abusive.
>Furuta's gonna get away with it. And we have confirmation that Based Maid Matsumae really is dead.
>FINALLY. Oyasumi, Haise.
I dunno. There's some thing about this chapter that seems so damn random, trippy and incomprehensible compared to the last few chapters...is Ishida okay?
The Kaneki as deconstruction of a shounen mc angle makes even more sense with the new chapter
>Everything we knew about Kaneki was a lie.
Nah, makes perfect sense within the context of what we knew about him already.
>and wanted to go out in a blaze of glory
We already knew that from TG. Did you not read the manga.
I'm legit confused, anons. Can somebody tell me what the train stations symbolize? Is it some kind of foreshadowing?
TGfags will say it was FORESHADOWED, even if it wasn't.
Kaneki was never suicidal, he wanted to protect everyone.
Jesus chirst the circlejerking in this fanbase is like fucking One Piece, Oda never asspulls shit, Oda FORESHADOWS everything, Oda doesn't make the same arc again and again , he uses parallels.
TGfags will eat shit if Ishida gave them a 2deep4u reason
>Kanou turns Kaneki into a monster
>Lies right at his face
>Uses him as an experiment
>Basically destroyed his life
>Kaneki still almost went and followed him
>Haise's parents are Akira and Arima
>Kaneki's are Rize and Kanou
I don't wanna ride anymore.
They're the guys that made Pocky, anon. Princess has a sweet tooth.
But he was clearly seeking a "cool death" that would have everyone love him in TG.
Not even foreshadowing. Pretty much explicitly stated.
He was, like his mother, overworking himself into an early grave, under the guise of protecting everyone. He wanted to be a cool "tragic hero" like Touka pointed out. Dying to protect his friends = his "cool" death, that makes everyone love him.
Are you a chubby short hikikomori girl too?
>tfw I'm literally Saiko
From chapter 51, Hairu is dead. Get over it.
That's what she said.
After her mother died and when he left her aunts home to be independent he was actually pretty good then. If only Rize didn't happen
>At least Amon got better mentally
how about now
Most OPfags accept he doesn't necessarily foreshadow, he places elements he could use later. You can't really plan 800 chapters ahead, especially not with the first hundred or so when you could all of a sudden plummet in ratings and get canned.
Don't give me that bullshit, truly suicidal people don't care how they die.
Besides, dying against MMMMMMMMMBOY or Amon isn't stylish?
He didn't drop to the floor to die after the Amon hit, he ran into the sewers to hide and survive.
Holy shit, why can't you get that it's more complicated than that?
Have you ever been suicidal? Or depressed?
He had a death wish, and was unconsciously working himself to an early grave, "in a cool way" involving protecting his friends, like the heroes in books he reads, who everyone loves.
You can call that not suicidal if you want, but that's what this chapter told us, and what original TG already revealed to us.
Seriously. I'm not one of those people that thinks Ishida planned literally everything and defends him against all criticism but it's really irritating me how many people in this thread completely missed the significance of the end of TG, and are now complaining that it doesn't make sense.
>I was happy.
>That underground flower field
>I get to meet the Reaper!
Again, that was before Autismus Rex skullfucked the poor boy.
That's what he thought after the Yamori torture, but after that, in V14 he realised that he was still behaving like his mother and overworking himself, like her. He took no care of his own mental state or own safety and went into a battle that everyone warned him was suicide.
Touka sort of said it before that in 120 too.
Shirazu said that outside of Kuramoto who's severely wounded, he doesn't know the condition of anyone else. Him and Saiko must've booked it the moment everyone else got taken down.
This this this this
Kaneki really wants to die, but like a legend, he wanted people to remember him, to love him or hate him, he doesn't care, he wants to make an impression. He's a boy who's been suffering his whole life, people fucked him up one way or another, and all he wants is to be like the hero in his goddamn books, he wants to die protecting everyone.
Of course he was happy when he met Arima in v14, he wanted to die fighting the strongest.
But wasn't the whole point, like Touka pointed out, that he tried so hard to protect them because he's ultimately afraid of being lonely? That might be why he wants to die too, I mean "become loved by others, and then die a cool death". So basically achieve a moment of happiness and then die before it can be taken away from him.
So, everything that Eto does is just because she knew about him from the start? And this why Kaneki became her fan?
I mean it's pretty inconvenient to hear her saying that he enjoys hitting
>Is Ishida okay?
You tell me.
I wonder if Kaneki will let go of his dream (Haise) for integral time and remember all the shit happened with Arima and all, on the other hand I wonder how Kaneki will interact with the Qs, well, if they survive.
Could someone clean up the dialogue bubbles in this page? I tried doing it but it didn't work out very well. I'd love to have this spread as a wallpaper.
Yeah, when I first read the spoilers I had a weird feeling about it, and wasn't sure what to think, but after almost a day to process it I like it - this makes sense in a way retcons usually don't, and fits perfectly with what we know of Kaneki's personality.
He doesn't need them dead, he just needs to convince everyone that they're dangerous and not any different than regular ghouls. All they need is a freak out or one of them eating human flesh to be witnessed. Because then not only was the Q project a failure, it was putting the CCG at risk.
>That's what he thought after the Yamori torture, but after that, in V14 he realised that he was still behaving like his mother and overworking himself, like her. He took no care of his own mental state or own safety and went into a battle that everyone warned him was suicide.
Except in the most recent chapter it was revealed his mother abused him.
>That might be why he wants to die too, I mean "become loved by others, and then die a cool death". So basically achieve a moment of happiness and then die before it can be taken away from him.
He bashes himself at every turn. At Yamori's place he was worried about others ending up like him and everything that went wrong was his fault. In V14 he was just being selfish trying to help others. Now he just wanted to die all along.
Yamori told him he was at fault for the deaths of the mother and child because he was indecisive. Touka to told him that he was selfish. Most of his coworkers thought that he was better off dead.
His thoughts about himself could just be a reflection of what he thinks others think of him.
She was killing herself unintentionally, because she did her best for others, when she was beating him the whole time.
At every stage he just forces a parallel with his mother.
Doubt it, he's not there, if he was people wouldn't be shitting themselves over Noro and Matsuri wouldn't be thinking he's getting every bit of credit.
Can't wait to see his reaction when he learns Kaneki went missing and/or is back though.
He'll grin like a smug motherfucker, calling it now.
>Anyone else think Kaneki is a little bitch?
We know he was neglected and physically beaten.
No depression and suicidal behavior is linked to child abuse. Its actually is a normal reaction.
I mean this kind of grin, the kind that says a fun toy just arrived.
Amonis gonna make it right for the both of them
Yes, she did. Don't forget 24th ward is Tokyo's underground, only ghouls live in that shithole. But you were replying the shitposter who likes writing his fanfics so it'd be good if you could ignore him.
The One-Eyed King is the "leader" in Aogiri. You know, many ghouls just follow the strongest ghoul in their wards and make him their boss. But I think both Tatara and Eto are the real leaders, their goal is "to flush out the liars" after all and seem to know about V organization.
>her saying that he enjoys hitting
Is MS translation accurate?
>You’re reaching too far, trying to be what you’re not, Sasaki Haise-kun.
An anon posted this in the last threads. There are some sentences which are a bit different. Also I prefer this translation so much more.
Oh come on, Kaneki is being a bitch about this. There are a ton of characters who seem to have had it worse then him, like Shirazu who's father killed himself and his sister has RC cancer.The only real shit in Kaneki's life started happening after being turned into a ghoul so he should stop making such a big drama out of his pussy past.
>The One-Eyed King is the "leader" in Aogiri. You know, many ghouls just follow the strongest ghoul in their wards and make him their boss. But I think both Tatara and Eto are the real leaders, their goal is "to flush out the liars" after all and seem to know about V organization.
Its more that Tarata handles most of their daily operations and manages the members. We haven't seen Eto give out orders, to average members, in her own name.
He still answers to Eto, but it looks like he has been running things.
Shirazu gets killed by Noro and his sister, whose mental state is degrading due to her disease, asks her nurse when he's coming to visit her. She says tomorrow and Shirazu's sister is very happy. Due to her memory loss caused by the disease, she can no longer keep track of time, so the nurse's answer is always tomorrow to make her happy. And then she dies with a smile, thinking her brother is on his way.
My biggest problem in this manga still how a pussy like Kaneki turn into a killing/op machine when Jason tortured him?So if somebody gets tortured also gains fighting skills?F.ck logic I guess.
He was training with Touka and Yomo before.
It was more of him breaking through his own mental restraints against violence.
There were hints throughout the first half of the series that he had potential.
Puts a new spin on him calling to his mother here.
I don't think Ishida will pull the same thing again. Maybe Kaneki will realize eventually that his life isn't anything he should give up. The people who love him will guide him out of the darkness.
>My vote is still for moving on from his self destructive tendencies and finding acceptance - and then dying anyway.
I would like him to find acceptance and then everyone else dies.
It's the same shit Uta pulled in Auction Arc.He was only pretending to be dead when Jewzo fucked his face, even though some retards thought uta was kill.Clowns are just the best
Maybe because he lost all his memories?
from the time he was transplanted he was already at least equal to rize in raw power, he just repressed his ghoul abilities and refused to eat flesh so he was weaker than normal. if you go back to his first battle with nishio he actually almost killed him and then fucked up touka, she is seen with bandages all over afterwards
Does anyone remember when Kaneki wore Jason's mask ? I thought that was very fucked up, like he acknowledged him as his father figure.
>>133640878, >>133640886, >>133640901, >>133640972
They didn't seem to know - or Arima is holding it back on purpose.
> Maybe because he lost all his memories?
How do we know he was already equal to Ryze in raw power by the time he fought Nishio? I don't remember this being mention anywhere. Not that what you're saying about him beating Nishio and Touka is wrong.
I swear if Shirazu dies but that fat fuck Saiko survives because Shirazu sacrificed himself I'm going to be immensely pissed.
its not explicity stated in that way, but from the conversation that he has with rize tulpa, thats kind of whats implied. rize saying that he has the strength to save his friends but refused to accept it.
You know, honestly there is probably some group out there that worships ghouls and believe them to be gods.
They provide sacrifices every couple of months and the ghouls just don't fuck with them.
They know he has issues, they're talking about this capabilities, I don't think the CCG cares that much about his issues.
Though Haise doesn't have all the same issues as Kaneki as he doesn't have his memories.
>Kaneki's are Rize and Kanou
It's Rize and Yamori.
Wants to fuck his "mother", kills his "father"
Oedipus Complex much?
Will this repeat with Arima and Akira?
It doesn't fit with a lot of his thoughts like >>133640552.
The original series gave the impression that he didn't care about his own life after Yamori, but he was honestly trying to protect those close to him even if it destroyed him.
Rather then him just wanting a cool death.
That might just be Kaneki shitting on himself again though.
They're more than happy to accept psychos, since they let Tokage do his thing and Juuzou was a danger to basically everyone who looked at him the wrong way in the original series.
Fuck, this guy is right. Haise waking up means that he has his memories back or that he isn't suppressing them anymore. Kaneki is gone for good, what we have now is awakened Haise, the one who will likely stop sucking CCG dick.
Ui's "go the long way around" thing refers to his flashbacks of going out with Ihei, not running around the building. Reading comprehension ffs. He doesn't even know wtf is happening on the roof the escape copter was shot down and Haise lied about the all clear
I figured Kaneki was being metaphorical in that, to him, the real world is a dream (fake) and the mental world is reality. Him telling Haise goodnight is his way of sending him off back into that fucked up dream.
Yeah, at least Touka, Hinami and the manager actually cared for him.
>tfw in Kaneki's mind Touka beating him up in 120 was a sign of motherly love.
I did but I seemed to have lost my TG /a/ files somehow.
>A "cool death" for him involved protecting everyone.
His death involved him failing to protect everyone.
If he wanted to die a "cool death" there was no reason to become a kakuja, no reason to feel despair when fighting Arima and no reason to decide to return to Anteiku.
>Kaneki wants to die
that reminds me (Shiro- Deadman wonderland)
Kaneki doesn't want to die a meaningless and lonely life like his mother did. He wants to die in a way where people will remember and respect him. Dying without saving anyone and to a sadistic torturer is just pathetic.
He classified his death against Arima as a "cool death" and it is
>Dying without saving anyone and to a sadistic torturer is just pathetic.
>He wants to die in a way where people will remember and respect him.
Not really he thought of himself as a horrible person.
kek. It's true.
The moment she stopped being tsun, he abandoned her.
Probably this. Then there’s also him thinking that he killed Amon, that the Anteiku staff is dead, that Hinami will eventually be killed etc. He wants to die before he remembers because that's less painful.
>Shitter quality than ISIS scans
Didn't think it was possible.
>tfw he subconsciously wanted to corrupt Himani who had a loving mother that was willing to die for her. He can't stand the fact someone else was able to receive the motherly love that he never got.
The raws this week were just really bad. Not saying MS isn't shit, but it's not really fair to compare scan quality to IS when they had better stuff to work with.
Really, wish that they'd just wait a week until the good YJ scans.
We are just at such a pivotal moment right now. I know it's almost stupid to ask this at this point, but will Ishida deliver in the following weeks?
>Dare to check out the TG subreddit for the first time in my life because like our lovely protagonist, I'm a fucking masochist who loves pain
>Top threads include a massive IS dick sucking fest
>:3's and shipping faggotry everywhere
Sasuga, but I saw several references to /a/ so you know those fucking faggots are coming here.
>Kaneki asked if Haise could handle it and he said yeah, then Kaneki said good night to Haise
oh shit i didn't even think about it like this. I guess we see next chapter if that's really what happened.
I'll actually be really upset if this is the route Ishida goes. Pretty much everyone has been waiting for centipede-kuns grand return, or at the very least a 'merger' of Shironeki and Haneki.
If it's just 'Yeah now Haise is also a fucking lunatic' I'll be disappointed.
Last time a tumblrfag put a link to /a/ on their tumblr and tell people to come here for spoiler. Yeah, they are invading /a/.
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All the hype would be wasted. I really hope this won't happen. The dude definitely needs his memories back.
Since everyone is posting proof
But Kaneki was already asleep and Haise was his happy dream. Now he wakes up and sends his dream to sleep because he had enough of dreaming. Ishida wouldn't troll us this bad.
>Book buddy was Tsukiyama Shuu of Rose.
>Gets his arm ripped off.
>Is barely able to comprehend anything anymore.
>The ONE EYED FUCKING OWL pounces on him and screams his name.
>Gets his face stomped on so hard that he loses consciousness.
>Remembered his mom used to abuse him.
One hell of a day.
I don't even think this is samefagging, I just think you guys are fucking idiots both for your posts and how you think posting that means a fucking thing.
Ishida hasn't exactly been subtle about that. They've been shown together alot ever since the auction arc. There have even been a few panels of Urie glancing at Mutsuki.
Torso freaking out over view Urie as his rival for Mutsuki would be funny.
I really hope Kaneki just fucking kills them all. Sick of all their bullshit.
Maybe. It's certainly the closest we've been, but we might get blue balled again, or Ishida may choose a different route and just make Haise into a different kind of psycho from Kaneki. We'll probably find out next week.
I just hope that we'll still get spoiler pics before the scanlation. Everytime when Mangastream picks up a series the hype begins to die because the spoiler pics suddenly disappear.
Look what happened to Akame ga Kill and Shokugeki no Soma.
But anon, it means you're wrong. Also you're autistic as fuck, honestly, why did you even get mad in the first place. People will call him anything they damn please, showing your dislike at something as insignificant as how people call Haise, who is a different personality from Kaneki, so he deserves a name, is openly asking people to reply with that kind of crap. Seriously where the fuck you think you are.
You wouldn't dare hate such an angel.
I sure hope not since that would mean that Kaneki will never ever return. So he won't regain his memories as well and we're stuck with Haise who likes playing happy family.
If it comes to this I'll probably drop :re.
This is the part where I tell you that I wasn't that anon, I just hate shit posters. I don't give a fuck what people call masochist-kun. Notice how most of your guys bullshit was deleted.
Something something sexually frustrated fujoshi sjw hybrid cunts with no talent but lots of free time