Tokyo Ghoul

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>>133618504
Find out that everything with Hide was a lie.

Or that it wasn't a lie, but that Hide has also messed with him mentally in order to make him see the value in living.

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I want to be killed and eaten by Centipede-kun

>>133618609
Kaneki, pls, go to therapy.

What if Kaneki's mother hit him because he kept asking for his father, but the man left the family and his mother became frustrated and had to hit him many times to discipline him?

I don't think she enjoyed hitting her son.
>being left alone by husband
>raising a child alone
>no support
>has to give her sister money constantly
Those things can turn into frustration and Kaneki's demands could stress her into hitting Kaneki. Like she died due to over-work and stress.

>>133618609
>>133618579
>>133618504
How the fuck you dipshits found your in here?

>>>/tumblr

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At least Arima appreciates him

I want Eto to fuck me.

>>133618579
I can see the latter being true at least.

>>133618663
>Implying the husband didn't abuse her and she rationalized it as being Kaneki's fault, especially when he left.

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Right in the fucking kokoro.

I didn't ask for this.

>>133618715
Then why did he leave the house? Whatever the case, I don't think she enjoyed it.

>>133618721
What's even going on here?

>>133618781

>>133618781
Hairu and Ui going on a deito

>>133618767
Who said he left willingly

>Ghoul food

Do you think she ever abused him sexually?
Might explain why he's still a virgin.

>>133618680
>hurr durr tumblrfags
Sure, whatever man.

>>133618504
The little shit deserved it.

>>133618781
Love.

>>133618890
Mrs. Ken pls.

>>133618840
No.

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>>133618721
> Superior taking his younger female co-worker on dates

Thats my fucking fetish. Fuck you Ishida.

Would you abuse a Kaneki /a/?

>>133603092

>>133618917
*Mrs Kaneki.
Ken is his given name,

>Goodnight, Haise

So is Shotaneki going to sleep or is Haise going to sleep?

where can i read chapter 53? i dont see it on mangastreams page and i thought they were picking it up after IS

>>133619036
Hard to tell without real scans, from different translations I've read it both ways.
Leaning towards Haise going to sleep though.

>>133619101
its coming out in 5min

>>133619101
They didn't say anything yet.

>>133618917
I work all day, busting my ass for that ungrateful brat only for him to act like a fucking autist all the time. I'M THE REAL VICTIM HERE.

>>133619146
No one told you to bust your ass for your crack whore of a sister. Whose really at fault, you dumb bitch?

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>>133619146
Why would you hurt this smile?

>>133619263
Kaneki confirmed for wanting to beat people senseless just like mommy.

>>133619314
He's probably gonna be spanking Kanae next chp.

>>133619314
That's the real reason he tried to munch down on Hide when he was hungry in the past.

>Kanae is gonna die soon
Fuck you Eto.

>>133619404
I would have no problems doing that.

>>133615863

Goddamn, Akira gave more of a shit about who was brutally murdering Haise than she did about the fact Haise was being brutally murdered.

I hope revived Kaneki can appreciate how blatantly his emotions were being manipulated. CCG is scum.

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>>133619404
I still don't get what she means by that.

Perhaps she means her individuality will die, just like Noro? And then she will just be Eto's dog

>>133619263
Because he's so cute when he cries. I just want to make him cry even more.

>>133619454
Well it was a friend she thought was dead.

>>133619473
Just the way she likes it.

Give the illusion of hope and happiness just to crush it and then have the now mindless Kanae munch on Tsukiyama. It's like poetry.

>>133619473
Kanae's already her dog. I used to discuss with an anon aobut Eto's kagune being parasyte. If Kanae dies then it is very horrible at how toxic her kagune is.

>>133619439
The Rosewald family has to live on somehow.

>>133619557
>Kaneki
>Wants to be love
>Considers getting abused a form of affection and love
>Wants to die cool
No you idiot if anything he'll be even worse about it.
He might even want daddy Arima to kill like he wanted before Hide gave him just enough will to live.

>>133619514
Tell me, you hear your friend being murdered over the radio, you think you recognize the voice of the person murdering him.

Do you care more about the fact your friend is being murdered? Or about the fact you kind of recognize the voice?

>>133618504
>being the one who discovered this
feelsgoodman.jpg

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>shitposter starts posting this in every TG trhead
>next chapter reveals that kaneki's mother was abusive like Arima's

>>133619699
I think she cared more about the person that was supposed to be dead for 3 months. Haise; however, was not dead.

Dead people are more important to her, just like her father.

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How long until Kaneki/Haise starts defending Yamori and painting them as a decent person in his mind?

>>133619762
>for 3 months
Ok time traveler.

>>133619762
Never. On that one, he knows Yamori was just a fuck head.

>>133619404
>>133619473
Are we sure she's not referring to Haise?

Why would she intervene if she just wanted Kanae to die? Haise was about to knock in Kanae's shit anyway before Eto intervened.

I hope the clowns get some more spotlight soon. They're always present in the manga but never the main focus. That has its charm and that's one of the reasons why they're good but I want to know more about them.

>>133619819
Oh sorry 3 years.

>>133619793
Yamori mama-san

>>133618721
They could have had it all.

Next week: Haiseneki vs Eto and Kanae, 2v2 kakuja smackdownn

>>133619906
>Yamori takes chibineki to a centipede petting zoo
>Yamori teaches chibineki to count

>>133619929
She was still after Arima's D.

>>133619891
She basically siced Takizawa and now Kanae on Haise so I don't think Kanae is that important to her

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Place your bets, who's the strongest clown?

>>133620001
Pierrot

>>133620001
Uta

>>133620001
How can someone look like such a faggot yet be hard as shit at the same time?

>>133620001
itori, she has the power to make my dick explode.

>>133619762
Haise was screaming in agony as the person he's fighting is talking about how he's been filled with holes.

Haise almost died that fight, and would have if not for Hinami intervening -the moment she heard Haise screaming-. Akira couldn't have given two shits if Haise died, while a ghoul Kaneki arguably knew for a smaller period of time than Haise knew Akira threw her lige at Aogiri away to save an investigator.

How can you say Akira gives a shit about Haise, considering that?

>>133619891
She wants to see Haise "totter".

It's no good if he isn't pushed as far as he can be. And she's definitely talking to Kanae, considering how the translated dialogue line up with the page's speech bubbles.

>>133618504
Fuck it, I bet that Kaneki actually killed his mom after years of abuse.

>>133620001
Knowing Ishida it's probably someone like Itori.

This manga revolves around sadistic strong women.

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Akirafags are so fucking delusional. Its not like any of us are going to think worse of her for this. Personally I find it admirable that she can play such a role for someone she despises. It shows what a great professional she is and how she doesn't let her emotions dominate her.

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I'm really curious what Eto's goal with Kaneki is now. He seemed like an amusing side-gig to her up until now, but this chapter pretty much throws that right out the fucking window.

>>133620095
The problem is that's a distortion of her character. She's a kinder character than that.

>>133620105
She probably had a conversation with her papa about Kaneki which is making her obsessed over him.

Something is odd about the last panel with Furuta why is he surprised at the end?

>>133620087
Weird how we haven't seen Itori at all yet.

>>133620105
To create a submissive whose as fucked up and mindbroken as she is.

>>133620001
Uta or Souta. Though I really do wonder about Itori... where has she been? Miss her fine ass.

>>133619990
Doesn't that imply she wants Haise dead?

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if she just wants Kanae to kill Tsukiyama's Kaneki to mindfuck the two of them.

>>133620164
Pic?

>>133620141
>>133620172
>Realizes her father wants Kaneki to bring her back from despair
>Decides to prove him wrong

>>133620001
Kefka and the Joker

>>133620087
I'm half expecting Itori to be the real boss of the group if it's anyone out of the people we already know.

We know it's not Uta. If Furuta is Souta he said "damned boss doesn't understand anything" in that one scene where he was playing bait for the ghouls. Knowing Ishida it was probably meant to have a double meaning and Furuta was referring to his Pierrot boss making him act as a CCG investigator and not Kijima.

Roma doesn't seem like the type to be the boss.

That leaves either Nico, Itori or someone behind the scene. I doubt they'd refer to either Itori or Nico as "the boss" considering how familiar they all seem with each other, but if it's someone I'm betting it's Itori.

>>133620212
http://imgur.com/a/gY2aV

>>133620172
You forgot for reproduction purposes

Another thread and still no proper translation.

wew lad.

>>133620231
The boss will be Hide

>>133620164
>>133620237
I still don't see him surprised

>>133620231
I still think Uta could be the boss though. He could have very easily been lying to everyone at Anteiku when he said he didn't know what the boss was planning.

I want Etofags to leave and never come back.

>>133620105
I'm guessing Kaneki has a background fairly similar to hers, there's a reason why she was Kaneki's favorite author: they have the same outlook on life.

The only difference is that Kaneki wants to save people, Eto likes to toy with them.

>>133620231
I'm leaning more towards Nico. I think that Ishida would have dedicated more time or at least foreshadowing to Itori if it were her. It is, however, somehow suspicious that she hasn't been around much, especially since Pierrot members have all been getting some attention.

>>133620303

The fun thing is that next arc will be probably highly focused on Uta since he's the Sun

>>133620313
>Kaneki wants to save people
He wants to save people for his own selfish desires, not because he cares about them.

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>>133620301
exlcamation points

>>133620352
What does Uta have to do with the Sun?

>>133620352
>uta
>the sun
Don't remember him getting that tarot reference. Mind linking it?

>>133620246
She's probably sterile.

>>133620389
Not him but Uta has a sun tattoo.

>>133620384
>>133620389
http://viper1123581321.tumblr.com/post/126595474314/utas-tattoos-the-sun

>>133620339
Itori and Souta seem like the shadiest members of the clowns. Souta's clearly supposed to be different from the bunch, even the poker cards are pointing towards it. Itori's been completely in the background. Either Ishida just doesn't care about her or he has something planned for her.

>>133620459
How the fuck does dumblr always come up with these theories?

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English translation Ishida's tumblr post earlier. Seems relevant to this chapter.

“The Sky Falls”

I had a dream where the sky fell down.

The bloodstains won’t come out, no matter how many times I pour warm water on them, they won’t come out.

Only words begin to dissolve everything, and get stuck in the drain.

And you become unable to forgive yourself, unforgiving.

I had a dream.

A failure of a God

She laughed and squeezed my throat.

It’s always like this.

Only people dull to pain hurt me.

She truly loved me,

Only she didn’t know how to love.

What a stupid God.

My nerves grow strangely and pierce through my skin.

All at once they sing out.

Far away, someone laughs. Soon, it’s not even my voice any more.

My brain becomes transparent, and there’s nothing I can’t see.

On knowing the things you didn’t know, you die.

I had a dream where the sky fell.

A checkerboard sky.

Squashed by it, I died.

Yes, I wished for that.

>>133620476
Itori is Kaneki's mother's clone from the future

>>133620476
I'm gonna go and do some wild speculation here. Prepare for bullshit.

If we're going by the poker card pattern Souta's supposed to be a rinkaku. He also has dark purple hair or whatever and when he dropped that shit on Rize she seemed familiar with him. Don't ask me why, but I have a strong feeling they're siblings or related in some way.

I'm completely reaching here but I'm going with my gut instinct.

Is Eto saying that Haise can't be anyone but himself? He has to fight his own way instead of suppressing himself so much- he can still do autism dodges and footwork but can't neglect his half ghoul speed and strength like he does.

>>133620552
can someone explain this

Why is Shironeki so bipolar?
this chapter:
>I want you to make people love us then die heroically so we can end this suffering like a badass!

about 20 or more chapters ago:
>I-It's not like a want you to die so I can take over...b-baka!

beginning of :re:
>SAY NAME! I WANNA FUCK SHIT SO SAY MY NAME!

though I do admit that the last one was shown to be Kakuja Kaneki, not Shironeki and even in TG kakuja Kaneki was a large contrast from Kaneki

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What is that junk emerging from Haise's shoulders

>>133620540
Autism allows you to think outside the box.

>>133620620
broken cage surrounding them

>>133620620
Probably that fungus shit.

>>133620552
>>133620605
It's about Kaneki being emo and wanting to die.

>>133620605
The God is supposed to represent his mother I believe. He's talking about how his mother loved him but in an abusive way "she truly loved me only she didn't know how to love".

haises hair is coveed in blood that is wht is is black

>>133620651
Thanks anon I thought he had the ol shoulder antlers

>>133620571
This crossed my mind too.
Imagine Shachi, Rize and Souta - a happy family.

>>133620552
he has a tumblr?

>>133620620
That's the railing from that tower.

>>133620610
>I want you to make people love us
I read that as
>I want to us to make love

Anyway, the "shironeki" in Haise's mind isn't a real person, but an extension of Haise/Kaneki's psyche.
His changes correspond with Haise's development and changes.

>>133620571
Souta and Rize superficially seem to have similar personalities now that I think of it.
>>133620709
Yep.
http://sui-zakki.tumblr.com/

>>133620709
sui-zakki.tumblr.com
He just posts art every now and again.

>>133620675
I think the black hair is mainly bad scan quality.

spoilers where

>>133620745
What if Souta talking to Sachi on the phone?

How much do we have left before this arc is done? Shit looks like we are wrapping up now. 2 more chapters?

>>133620571
It's possible Rize was affiliated with the Clowns at one point, but she left because she preferred being solo. So the Clowns killed her.

A lot of the shit Rize did was for shits and giggles, just like the Clowns, so I can see it being true.

What if Kaneki's mum killed his dad?

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Does this look like the face of mercy to you?

Yep, just let Eto take him back to Aogiri

>>133620571
Speaking of this.
All the clowns got 8 in tokyo ghoul trump. I know that's supposed to represent power and order. Souta on the other hand got five of hearts, iirc 5 is supposed to represent adventure, seeking pleasure, change and freedom right? That fits him.

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>>133620834
He looks so happy now that he's awake. Our prince has returned from his eternal sleep.

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kek, tumblr unironically defends child abuse.

>>133620809
I hope it ends soon. The Kanae drama has been going on for far too long.

>>133620923
Why do you people even go there?

so who wins this arc CCG or the Aogiri? Kaneki comes back i think, aogiri loses Noro or not CCg lost most of the forces and special classes and rank 1, Lots of ghouls were killed by CCG

>>133620972
Gay porn.

>>133620540
They don't waste time clownposting.

>>133621005
Fair enough.

>>133620923
kek at no re tag

that way people who haven't read re yet will be clueless

>>133620745
They're both great at acting completely helpless and then backstabbing you.

>Kaneki has abusive mother
>Mommy issues
>Haise has abusive father
Daddy issues incoming?

>>133620923
Holy shit it's like you don't know how to read. That isn't saying child abuse ISN'T bad, it is say that just because she did bad things doesn't mean she as a whole was a bad person.

>>133620976
CCG lost quite a bit at the top:

Ass. Special Class Kijima
First Class Hairu
First Class Shimoguchi
2 fodder First Class that were with Hairu and Kijima

And who knows if Noro will grab a Quinx.

>>133620834
Hopefully this is not another one of Ishida blue balls attempt to bait in Kanekifags. This amnesiac bullshit better end soon.

>>133621077
And they both lure people in with the promise of romance and then try to eat them.

R.I.P. fat bitch who refused to take a shower.

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Anyone else getting a classical vibe from the way Ishida is drawing clothes/cloaks? They're really beautifully done.

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>>133621076
>that Hide one

Truly the best boy.

it's out on MS.

>>133621134
Souta is way more committed though. You get wined, dined and fucked with the promise of marriage before you get eaten. He delivers the full experience, Rize just gives you the demo.

>>133621199
I can't trust a faggot

>>133621209
Souta survived fucking Ami, he's a man of unbreakable will devoted to his job. No wonder they chose him as the mole.

>>133621092
Abusing her child to the extent that it gave him long term problems makes her a horrible person.

>>133621109
That won't end until he meets Amon. And "Goodnight, Haise" may point to either Haise going to sleep or Shotaneki. So we might be blueballed again.

>>133620141
Has Yoshimura ever even seen Eto since he hid her (until the raid)? I've always been under the assumption that they've been quite distant.

>>133621303
Not to mention the neglect.

>>133621294
I never got that part. Did Souta get her fat or was she fat from the start?

>>133620976
None of the deaths so far have been Aogiri.

Eto might have some use for tsukiyama.

>>133621076
You gotta admit that some of the ones on the "reality" side are equally as autistic as the ones on "exceptions, it's like they were made by a 12 year old memesters.

>>133621109
Well, we still have the Amon plot line. It's best not to expect his memories to be back but instead a change in his personality becoming more like his white haired self.

>>133621334
She wasn't fat before, she was probably still athletic as she was still able to run quickly.

>>133621334
He got her fat, but apparently she was ugly even when she was slim.

>>133621412
>12 year old memesters
They were. Some theories about Haise said he was Arima's younger brother or Hide in Kaneki's skin,

>>133621412
That phoenix theory is stupid af, but plausible.

>>133621488
What about theory that the series parallels the Fool's Journey?

>>133621488
Phoenix imagery already surrounded Kaneki and now Haise

>>133621488
>but plausible
No anymore >>133620620

New chapter makes me see the "Black Goats Egg" in slightly different light.

>>133621619
The series does roughly follow it but the people who say there will only be 8 or 9 volumes or re to fit 22 tarots are stupid

Is there an ETA on good clean scanlations yet?

>>133621488
How did that phoenix theory evens start? I get that his Kakuja mask looks like a bird but if that's all then it's completely stupid.

Nah, Phoenix just doesn't seem very TG.
Some kind of parasite is more likely.

>>133621076
>I just want to be useful to sempai, even when I can't do shit.
>Saiko is just tits
You must be 18 and up to post on 4chan.

>>133621619
He gets the world arcana person and defeats an aspect of Death then dies afterwards

>>133621703
Never

>>133621720
>>133621735
It was created in Batoto, that's why it's stupid.

>>133621076
Not sure which side is more autistic.

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>>133621735
Here is his Kakuja, I don't care if you make it part phoenix or fungus, but it needs to keep this.

>>133621744
I don't feel like arguing with a newfag. The answer to both is the first threads of re.

This thread reeks of tumblr.

>>133621703
http://youngjump.jp/tokyoghoul/re/trial/
11/26

>>133621800
Phoenix Kaneki's tail feathers are Centipede legs.

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im redrawing eto and then coloring, but I have a question, should I draw the bandages or leave the tits out?

>>133621773
Actually batoto got it from tumblr
>>133621800
I wouldn't be surprised if it became more elegant to reflect his inner peace when he gets there

Are tarot cards actually relevant to the story?

What have they actually predicted?

>>133621856
let the tits go free

>>133621865
>Kaneki
>inner peace
Only when he's dead.

>>133621619
That>>133621625
Nah fuck that. I'm sure I speak for most of us when I say we'd rather keep Kanekipede. Just becoming a phoenix out of nowhere seems a bit ridiculous.

>>133621897
Nahh

>>133621884
Seidou got XV The Devil at one point in the original manga I believe, which foreshadowed his ghoul transformation and descent into batshit insanity.

>>133621865
Kaneki doesn't want inner peace.

Haise was the only path to happiness and peace he had and he doesn't want it. He wants to die cool.

>>133621931
You're wrong

>>133621884
Sometimes.

The most recent one was Furuta getting Death before doing the shit he did so I guess they have predicted something?

It's out.

http://readms.com/r/tokyo_ghoul_re/54/3066/1

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What would you do with that ass?

>>133621931
Kaneki does want peace, but whether that peace comes from life or death doesn't matter to him.

>>133621987
Ayy lmao

>>133621987
In 5 minutes?

>>133621987
you got me

There is no peace for ghouls in death. Only an afterlife of conflict.

>>133621931
Kaneki should just kill himself already. That saves the people who actually care about him from wasting more time to keep up with his bullshit.

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I want Eto to dominate me!

In all this chaos I have but one question, what exactly is Chie up to? She got an "it's time" moment about 10 chapters ago and we haven't seen anything from her.

>>133622175
But thats not the type of death he wants. He wants a cool awesome death.

>>133622193
She would literally eat your dick.

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>>133621989

Fuck the ass, man.

Fuck the ass.

I would ravage these tits!

>>133622209
She's gonna save the day through deus ex machina bullshit.

Knowing Ishida it won't actually happen, but if it was Chie doing the bullshit, I wouldn't mind.

>>133622209
She's busy running away. Her "it's time" moment was probably the signal for shit to go down.

>>133621326
She ate the nigga and then abducted him to farm kakahou to implant into new subjects.speedreader-kun

>>133621639
Uh, those are broken railings.

>etofags so desperate for Eto they keep posting that one page of her every thread

>manga ends with Kaneki accepting himself and overcoming his trauma enough so that he know wants to live
>dies a cool death instead

How long do you think Kaneki was suicidal?

>>133622525
>Cool death
>Not an anticlimatic death like tripping on Arima's quinque and getting skewered by it.

>>133622561
>How long
Always anon. Always.

>>133622592
I like the irony of finally getting what he wanted, but only when he no longer wanted it better.
Bonus points if he's just started a happy relationship with someone too.

>>133622621
Th-there must have been happy times. At some point. Maybe before his dad died. Which he doesn't even remember.

>>133622633
I feel a cool death would still be satisfying for him on some level. So an anticlimatic one would fit such a scenario.

shiruzu is the hero we need

>>133622561
When has it implied he was suicidal?

I don't remember anything about him wanting to kill himself, just him wanting to die a certain way.

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>>133622674
The only happy moments were with Hide, who gave him just enough will to live.

And Re shows how that turns out.

>>133621928
>>133621980
That's it?
Seems like a waste of time to obsess over them.

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Can anyone post a list of the books referenced in TG, and if they're actually worth checking out?

has he lost it yet?

>>133622742
Wanting to die in a way that feels cool after he's been loved by others instead of living with those who care about him is the thought of someone who is suicidal.

He wanted to die against Arima despite having failed to protect anyone at the end of TG because it would be "Cool", but Hide's appearance gave him just enough strength to not die like he wanted.

Kaneki is for the suicide by cop method of death instead of personally trying to kill himself.

>>133622781
You should read Metamorphasis (Kafka) anon.
It's a classic and its pretty short.

>>133622808
I think he just found it.

>>133622781
From what I've seen in the latest chapter, 50 shades of gray

>>133620383
He was crying.
>Kijima san…. Ugh…. Uuu…. U…. Bahhh!!

>>133622744
Fuck, if Hide theories are true he really did have nothing at all worth living for.

Do you think Hide knew about the abuse?

>>133622812
>Father wants to kill MC
>Mother help mc until get tired of him
resembles kaneki

>>133622301
The it's time moment came before Kijima was even finished interrogating Aliza.

>>133622834
>50 shades of gray
The journey of Haise's hair.

>>133620869
5 is power and other. Not sure about 8.

>>133622879
>Furuta truly cared about Kijima
How sweet.

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>>133620709
Cause twitter has character limit so with long posts like this, he has to use tumblr.

>>133620695
Killing your sibling sure shows your love!

>>133622945
Fuck off.

>>133621076
Should add our favourite CCG mole.
>one eye
>Kanou's body guard
>Clown boss
>super soldier

>>133622975

Love tap.

It's not like she died.

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>>133621294
I really have to admire him for that. How could he survive kissing and fucking such a fat bitch?
Such a devoted man.

>>133622249
Her face is disgusting though.

>>133619454
He will rescue Hinami and flee.

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>>133622942
He does care but I think he flips between his personality. One is the wimpy Furuta who really cares about Kijima and the other one is the cold-blood killer, and at latter mode - he doesn't give a shit about anyone.

>>133621076

my expectation was that Hiaru would continue to be my princess for many chapters

;_;

>>133623241
But what about the Qs? Sure Shirazu made some new bros, Fura and Naoto, and Mutsuki's gotten close to Suzuya and his squad, but Saiko and Urie don't seem close to anyone outside of their own team.

so mangastream will release the chapter saturday night right

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Had to draw it

>>133623579

Yes, make sure you spam their facebook to make sure they release it

>>133623593
My boner thanks you.

>>133623501
Screw them they are weak. Hinami and that's it.

>>133623593
lewd

>>133622391
saved.

>>133623645
Qs work together well. Individually Hinami would win but as a group she would probably be cut in half by Saiko or hit by cracker.

Hinami just has a good kagune

>>133623421
Ui please.

>>133622811
But how is that different from someone wanting to die fighting in a war or something else considered "heroic"?

I'm starting to think this is all just a deconstruction of shonen.

>>133620660
No, it's him merging with kaneki. "smashed by a checkerboard sky" that's obviously him shedding his "happy dream" haise persona.

You fucks are retared.

>>133623593
Looks good but her tits look as if she's wearing a bra with them being kinda pressed against each other and the cleavage that is showing. I think it looks more natural having them sag

>you will never walk the streets and find a starving qt3.14 ghoul in a ally way
>you will never bring her home and and chain her in your basement
>you will never give her small chunks of dead people you work with at the morgue
>you will never eat her alive while talking about how ironic that is
>you will never slowly start to become a ghoul from RC cell intake
>you will never ram her tight ghoul pussy with your kakuja enhanced penis
>you will never pull her towards your body a little too much and get bitten
>you will never be pushed to the grown by her newfound power
>you will never stare in to each others eyes as she stands over you with broken shackles on her wrists, thinking about whether she wants to kill you quick or painfully
>you will never make an agreement with her saying that she can stay in your basement with free food if she agrees to be your sex slave
>you will never smirk as she angrily excepts, know that she will try to break out when she fully recovers
>you will never allow her to come up from the basement for one day
>you will never sit with her on the couch watching movies on the night of her one day allowance on the surface
>you will never watch her doze off at the movie where the villain is your son, you have to chose to kill him or nuke Boston
>you will never look at the clock, watching as her time on the surface goes down
>you will never allow her to stay a little longer due to no wanting to wake her
>you will never continue adding on to her time for little reasons
>you will never grow close to her but know she doesn't feel the same
>you will never wake up one morning and notice that she is getting ready to leave
>you will never beg her to stay
>you will never dodge her punches as she shouts at you while crying for ruining her life
>you will never catch one of her punches and pull her in for a kiss you will never look her in the eyes as tell her you want to start over
>you will never cry as she says no and leaves

>>133623842
Who cares about them? Thy can all die a horrible death for all I care.

>>133624070
So why live?

>>133624056
>Implying.

>>133620665
For fucks sake, guys. The god is Eto. The failed creation is Kanae.

These threads are cancer because of you idiots.

>>133623956
Shonen heroes are pretty retarded.

Also usually when people go to war its to fight for something they believe in, not to die a heroic death. Those deaths are the byproduct of trying to do something they believe in or felt was right.

In the end Kaneki didn't have that when he faced off against Arima. He just wanted to die and felt it would be a cool death, but he failed to protect anything and he knew it.

>>133624070
I thought I was safe on /a/ but guess not.

>>133624096
You said they were weak, even though Hinami isn't that special herself.

You could have just said they should have been ignored because you don't like them

>>133620105
She wants the real Kaneki to wake up, since he was their most successful test subject. It would do no good to have him stay as Haise since he won't develop in the way they want him to. That's why they sent Takizawa after him before, now Kanae, and then Eto herself showed up calling him Haise and Kaneki on the same page.

>>133624167
No reason it can't represent more than one person.

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damn

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>>133624070
That was pretty elaborate

>>133624167

Just to add one more thing:

>My brain becomes transparent, and there’s nothing I can’t see.

Meaning: he's not repressing his memories anymore, he can "see" all of his mind.

>On knowing the things you didn’t know, you die.

That confirms Haise is "dead" or "asleep".


Have I made it simple enough for the kids now?

>>133624208
Kaneki also faced off against Arima after the people he had just tried to save died.

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>>133624096
>hating on Sharkbro

Sharkbro is gonna go ham on Noro. Also Hinami a shit.

>>133624070
>you will never allow her to come up from the basement for one day
Damn straight. That bitch is staying down there.

>>133624208
>Shonen heroes are pretty retarded.

That's my point, and why I think TG is a deconstruction.
>Also usually when people go to war its to fight for something they believe in

If you thing people fight in wars for their beliefs, you're naive as fuck. Most of the time it's to "fuck shit up" and be cool.

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>>133624282

>>133624392
Yes and that's why they get PTSD when the fighting is over.

Kaneki said he wanted to die in a cool way so when tg:re was announced it said something along the lines of the birth of a legend could this mean he dies and becomes a legend would be a fitting way to end the tragedy.

So will Kaneki actually die at the end but more in a way of a hero.

>>133624208
Ever heard of sruvivors guilt? After everything he went through to get strong, it all went to naught because it didn't make a difference in the end at v14

And he felt despair, you can't say you wouldn't want to just give up and die after that can you?

>>133624457
Or he could eventually get over his depression now that he is facing the truth about himself.

>>133624457
Kaneki doesn't give a shit, he just wants to die gloriously whether it's doing something good or bad.

I'm just wondering how much of Kaneki we got back this chapter.

>>133624070
>you will never go on the walk that started it all
>you will never foolishly go in to that same ally hoping you would find her
>you will never wake up one day and hear noise
>you will never run to the door hoping it is her
>you will never look down and find a baby
>you will never raise that child
>you will never wait for the day that the whole family can be reunited
Why must we suffer, /a/?

>>133624454
....ok? So we're in agreement now?

>>133624501
Kaneki always wanted to die. That's mental Kaneki's point. He wants to be loved and then die a cool death.

Having the people he tried to protect die in the end wouldn't change that because he can still have his glorious death.

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>>133624350

I hope Noro gets finished off soon. He's lost all his mystery appeal and we've watched him get killed 5 times over if it wasn't for his retarded regeneration.

Hopefully Ui picks up the T-Human on the floor and blast his ass till nothing remains.

>>133623287
I wonder what the fuck is Furuta...

>>133624524
>Kaneki doesn't give a shit, he just wants to die gloriously whether it's doing something good or bad.

So then why did he spare a ton of ghoul investigators.
Kaneki has never been amoral.

>>133624576

okay so this is just your headcannon

But so what? Why does that make him suicidal? He's not the type of person to have delusions about living forever. Between a bitch-ass death and a glorious viking death, I know which I would want.

How many of you guys are underaged reddit/tumblerites, by chance?

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>>133621109
>Goes back to Kaneki
>Acts as if nothing ever happened so he can get CCG intel
I need some of this.

>>133621989
Her thighs looked super thick when she was sitting down forwards at the CCG. I thought it was a slight oversight but now it's obvious that Eto actually has a fat ass.

>>133624711
It's that kind of selfishness that hurts the people around him. Especially he wants to be loved. Those who live have to accept the pain that comes with his death and it comes across as him not giving a shit about their feelings as longs as it makes him happy.

>>133624729
At that point he's just using the Qs, which I think is really shitty, since they look up to him as their mentor. It's not like Urie and Saiko need anymore abandonment issues.

>>133624817
Sometimes a person who has been abused only knows how to raise others by abusing them.

>>133624605
Every one, actually. He hasn't actually killed a single human. And he only killed ghouls he deemed "evil", like the ones at the Ghoul Restaurant, and the mindless zombie experiments at Kanou's lab.

Kaneki literally dindu nuffin.

>>133624816
"instead of hurting others, become the one that gets hurt" that's how he used to think until he became Shironeki.

So fuck off.

>>133624850
He's Saiko's Maman. He's going to end up decking her.

>>133624605
Being amoral and doing the right thing aren't somehow mutually exclusive.

Kaneki is going through the motions of morality without ever feeling strongly either way about it. Maybe he did, once, but that was before being mindbroken by Yamori.

Now he only cares about people who love him. Good or bad.

>>133624816
>It's that kind of selfishness that hurts the people around him. Especially he wants to be loved. Those who live have to accept the pain that comes with his death and it comes across as him not giving a shit about their feelings as longs as it makes him happy.

With the exception of Hide and Hinami, everyone around him was a murderer, its not like dealing with that was helping with his depression.

Its not good for you when your support is wondering if it is ok for themselves to live.

>>133624981
Is there an instance of him pushing aside his morality?

>>133624981
He has always had a strong sense of morality. You're making shit up now. What "bad" person does he "care" about? Can you name 1?

>>133624816
You mean like what Yoshimura, blackdog, and devil ape and all hundreds of their friends did? They wanted to die a heroic death and got pissed at Kaneki for saving them...well, they died later anyway so good for them.

>>133624070
Never asked for this.

>>133625142
Tsukiyama and Rize

>>133625086
In context of his position? None, explicitly, the closest he got was when he'd lose self control.

>>133625142
Tsukiyama, the guy would butcher humans so he could enjoy their eyes and the like. He captured and tricked humans to be led to the auction house like chattle.

I'm mentioning this because in Haise's hallucination Kaneki explicitly says he doesn't give a shit whether it's good or bad what he does, just so long as his death is awesome.

>>133625329
And it took til Re for Tsukiyama to be a truly decent person.

>>133625329
He doesn't care about either. He's told Tsukiyama he is ready to kill him at a moments notice, and he's just interested in Rize because he's emulated what he thought her ideals were, it was a big thing for him.

>>133625354
He dislikes Tsukiyama, he told him as soon as he escaped from Jason he will kill him if he starts fucking around.

>>133625354
>I'm mentioning this because in Haise's hallucination Kaneki explicitly says he doesn't give a shit whether it's good or bad what he does, just so long as his death is awesome.

He is thinking that now, but he has always acted differently.

Even as late as Kanou's lab he was saddened by the house's story.

>>133625399
>>133625434
He had stopped hating Tsukiyama by the end of Tokyo Ghoul.

>>133625399
Shironeki begged Haise not to kill Tsukiyama this arc.

>>133624981
You're making shit up now. To the day he got mind fucked he still didn't kill humans. In fact he saves and avoids harming when given a chance.

>>133625555
Because, presumably he wasn't being evil while he was in Kaneki's group, but I wouldn't say they were friends or anything, he was just a useful person to have around.

>>133625587
Precisely because Kaneki has a strong sense of morality. He didn't kill any humans and was even selective about the ghouls he killed.

>>133625647
Did he kill humans in root A?

>>133625655
I took it as Kaneki liked him by the end, but couldn't trust him.

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>mfw people are still trying to deny Tsukiyama's character development

With Kaneki's mom being revealed as abusive, for all we know Tsukiyama was a better friend to Kaneki than Hide was.

>>133625863
Tsukiyama is shit and no amount of development could ever change that.

>>133625834
Nope.

>>133625840
Maybe he did. For Kaneki to like him though, Tsukiyama must have stopped killing. For all we know, he's an alright guy now. Sure his servants murdered and brought him meat, but that eventually made him go kakuja and attack them. We know he pretty much didn't leave the house at all after Kaneki "died".

I took that warning to Tsukiyama as a "you can hang around if you don't murder people"

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>>133625956

>Kaneki's mom hit him
>Every girl that Kaneki likes hits him
>He likes Arima because Arima killed him

just fuck my shit up m8

>>133626007
And before anyone says "well that doesn't erase what he's done in the past" well what about Yoshimura? He used to be a murdering asshole too.

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>>133620709

>>133620745
>>133620758

>complainers in every TG thread about tumblr
>Ishida ends up being tumblr

Tumblr complainers BTFO

>>133626129
>The real reason Kaneki distanced himself from Hide is that Hide never hit him and he was now around people who did

>>133626151
Hello tumblr, enjoy your stay. Tumblr is still shit, why would Ishida having one change that?

>>133626148
Yoshimura didn't seem to enjoy killing, while Tsukiyama got sadistic joy from it.

>>133626151
Even the drawfags have tumblr accounts. Wasted money opportunity if you don't. Also good for ddl without retarded ads.

>>133626243
Kuzen definitely didn't dislike it. Re-read it.

Also, his nickname is "gourmet" i think that explains his motivations, it's about the food. He's very narcissistic yes (his fucking mannerisms, way of dressing, etc) but not sadistic.

>>133626003
Bless you anon.
what's the program?

>>133626304
paint

>>133626304
just photoshop

>>133625956
All of Kaneki's old friends have done horrible things.

>>133626007
>Maybe he did. For Kaneki to like him though, Tsukiyama must have stopped killing. For all we know, he's an alright guy now. Sure his servants murdered and brought him meat, but that eventually made him go kakuja and attack them. We know he pretty much didn't leave the house at all after Kaneki "died".

Touka and Yomo still killed people for food.

>>133626350
You should do one featuring her butt.

>>133626353
He stopped killing for food and ended up getting people killed because of it. Ishida loves his irony.

>>133626298
Yoshimura basically cursed his own existence, while Tsukiyama was making rape faces while Kaneki's back was turned.

>>133626243
Only the first time we see Tsukiyama he leaves his victim alive. He took her eyes and then got his booty out of there. IIRC there was talk about how Tsukiyama would take the parts he liked and then leave the person to go do what ever. Ghoul restaurant being a different story.

>>133626243

>its okay to kill people if you don't like doing it and regret it later on

>>133626353
Maybe that's why he didn't let her come be in the Gangster Group.

>>133626419
see

>>133626465

>>133626353
Even chan-Hinami? Before she sold herself to Aogiri, anyway.

Are people seriously doing mental gymnastics in order to say that one ghoul is better than the other ghoul when both of those ghouls have at some point murdered people?

Because the only ghoul that never killed anyone, that we know of, is that one guy from the bonus novels.

>>133626545
Kaneki never killed anyone.

>>133626465
I agree with this statement. Yoshimura was a hitman though, so killing people was his job. Just like it's the CCG's job to kill ghouls.

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>>133626536
>chan-Hinami

>>133626353
Touka killed people for food still? When?

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>>133626536
CCG should make a ghoul orphanage where they can take the innocent child ghouls and raise them like Haise. It'll be just like domesticating wolves into dogs!

>tfw even Tsukiyama used to be just like Hinami

>>133626588
He didn't HAVE to be a hitman. He even says he can't blame it on necessity because he didn't have to do it.

>>133626588
You have a fucked up sense of morality then nigger. Would you still agree withat to someone who murders your family

I didn't like this chapter, nothing happened.

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link to the english translated version ?

>>133626570
He killed Haise.

>>133623287
>calls ghouls disgusting murderers
>goes and massacres everyone present

>says he'll take revenge for Kijima's sake
>tramples on and disrespects his corpse

He's a paradox.

>>133626545
I don't care if ghouls kill people if the people they killed were assholes anyway. If a ghoul bit off Tokage's head I'd be happy.

And people who kill out of necessity are less evil than those who seek to inflict pain and suffering on others for their own amusement. There is a drastic difference between ghouls like Touka and Yamori.

>>133626680
Haise is a persona, not a person.

I guess Sacha Baron Cohen is a murderer for killing Borat?

>>133626673
http://readms.com/r/tokyo_ghoul_re/53/3066/1

So has fucking no one picked up on the little white haired boy being Haise and not Kaneki?

There's a reason it's 'good night Haise' and not 'good night Kaneki'.