Why do people like FMA 2003?

Good direction and OST.

Everything but the ending was better than Brotherhood.

The thin lines for Brotherhood looked terrible.

Brown Rose.

>>133568245
how is he able to live with only half his body

>>133568412
Alchemy

>>133568245
Nostalgia.

Brotherhood is superior in every way and is actually cannon but people who watched 2003 years ago will defend it the the grave. It's like Fallout 3 and Fallout NV. NV is the better game but F3 fans will fight to the death to defend F3.

>>133568412
Well, he's half the man he used to be...

I don't even remember this guy, he sure looks fucking stupid though

>>133568436
>...
>middle school puns
Back to Reddit.

>>133568432
>and is actually cannon
Nigga, they are divergent plots. We aren't talking about an episode that can't be slotted into an existing canon and would thus be considered a what if or stand alone. Saying only one is canon is fucking retarded, each has its own canon which it is canon to.

>>133568432
Reminder that Brotherhood is now as long ago as 2003 was when Brotherhood came out.

>>133568432
Fallout 3 innovated as the first 3D Fallout, NV is just an uninspired copy paste.

Better intros

>>133568432
it's possible to like both

>>133568245
I mean that might have been one of the sillier things that came out of the first FMA, but they were honestly both enjoyable.

It's rare you get an anime only plot that is fairly decent, ending aside.

Also those movies were fucking shit

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Anyone rewatching it with the BD release? Pretty good quality.

>>133568308
This, also better Roy.

And Roy losing his sight just to get it back like one chapter after is any better?

>>133568245
Intro to anime and nostalgia also didn't read manga at the time because newshit. Also this is thread has been made thousands of times and only newfags actually want to discuss it.

>>133568550
With better writing, better story, better characters, more quests, more perks, better DLC, more weapons, and multiple endings.

NV is like Fallout 3, just better in every single way.

>>133568734
Rewatched it early October. It reminded me why it's so great. Superb directing. Irie cannot come close to Mizushima.

>>133568245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQMSHcRtv7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXQLrkW33f0

That, plus atmosphere. Brohood was really shit at handling serious moments and more or less the same as 2003 at handling the funny ones.

>>133568245
Better than Brotherhood

Brotherhood's directing doesn't have a shred of imagination outside of the fight scenes. It's a stultifyingly literal-minded translation of the manga panels that works about as well as Zack Snyder's Watchmen adaptation (i.e. it doesn't). The way comic relief and superdeformed panels were handled in Brotherhood was especially cringe-inducing. What works in a little side-panel on the page DOES NOT work as thirty seconds of screen time.
Seiji Mizushima is also just a pretty good director overall; 2003 had a bunch of sequences that effectively utilized cross-cutting and Michiru Oshima's score to tie together multiple plot lines really elegantly and powerfully. I can't think of a single scene from Brotherhood that was memorable in terms of directing.

>>133568245
I liked how they handled Envy / Hoenhiem in 2003 better

Dante was more interesting than Father.

>>133568995
>one chapter
More like an entire volume.

>>133568245
Because faggots just love rooting for the underdog.

>>133568245
Don't mind both, but dammit that downer mood and atmosphere from FMA 2003 were like drugs man. It made it that much more memorable to me.

>>133570265
>downer mood and atmosphere from FMA 2003 were like drugs man.
tragedyfag detected

>>133569231
lol, hipsters

They like to pretend that forced drama is mature.

>>133568308

2003 has better ending than brotherhood.

2003 stayed true to the ''equivalent exchange'' Edward sacrificed his life in exchange for Alphonse. Brotherhood had a forced Disney like happy ending

>>133570312
lol, braindeads casual faggots.

>>133570445
> 2003 stayed true to the ''equivalent exchange''
they literally say that it is bullshit in 2003

>>133570445
>Edward sacrificed his life in exchange for Alphonse.

But he is alive. He was teleport to other world. How is that equivalent exchange?

>>133570312
Nice argument senpai

>>133570445
>Edward sacrificed his life in exchange for Alphonse
Did you even watch the last episode? Or the movie?

Besides, the first series and Brotherhood have different messages. First was like If you make a mistake, you'll suffer the consequences while the manga/Brotherhood is more like The mistakes you make don't define who you are if you rise above them

>>133570514
Edward only called it bullshit because he didn't like how ridiculously brutal it was about it in 2003. He practically said that there should be more to life than treating everything under equivalent exchange.

>>133568550
>>133569231
>>133570312
>>133570506
>>>/v/

Is the 2003 FMA a rare case where the original anime content is better than the source material?

>>133568245
dont know really, but i think FMA 2003 was more dense, more realistic than brotherhood

>>133568734
Fuck I only have a low quality version and I thought it was the only one.

I've fucking seen my low quality fifty times now. Been watching FMA for more than ten years.

>>133570555
>>133570756
He actually dies and replaces the Edward from the other world. If I recall correctly he actually fuses with him.

>>133571000
No, because it isn't.

>>133571000
Yes it is. It really is an excellent anime that transcends the genre. Only faggots and kids believe the manga and FMAB are better because they're more action oriented and actual " shonens ".

>>133571589

Or its because it has a coherent plot that doesnt pull half robot man and SUDDENLY ITS NAZIS out of its ass. The 2003 series was damn good up untill the last 1/4 and the movie where bones shit all over it with their original ending. Whenver bones goes off and makes their own ending to things it just gets really fucking dumb.

FMA 2003 kept its tone from start to finish. Meanwhile the remake got more and more childish as the story progressed.

The only problem with FMA 2003 is they never introduced the chinese or the russians.

>>133571712
Bad ending doesn't mean everything else what shit.

>>133571755
Are you serious

>>133571755

Of course it doesnt but it does put a huge hamper on the argument that its better than brotherhood. One of the series has an ending thats not full retard and the other doesnt. While you might not agree that brotherhood has as good of direction of what have you you have to admit that point.

I myself didnt have an issue with any of the direction from either series. Just the plot points and general setup. The start of 2003 is much better but the overall package is better in brotherhood.

>there are people in this thread right now who are completely unable to enjoy both for what they are

>>133568245
His Robo-archer theme was pretty cool

I admit the design was kind of bad but the way he loses it at the end was interesting

>>133572468
>there are "people" in the thread that dont recognize '03 as inherently superior

>>133573063
>there are anons in this thread that can't accept the fact that Brotherhood is objectively superior

>>133573195
Eh, no, if we're judging it objectively then '03 wins for better use of the medium.

>>133573616
>better use of the medium
>no bias at all
>IMDB gives Brotherhood 9.1 and 2003 8.7
>.4 point difference
Brotherhood is objectively superior no matter what.

I liked the way it went better than Brotherhood.

>>133573951
Brotherhood's ending was comfy as fuck.

I don't get you tragedyfags and your bittersweet endings.

>>133571540
yes it is. brotherhood was a boring shonen plot and ending with the final boss who is literally "LOWLY HUMAN I WILL BECOME THE PERFECT BEING"

ill take alternate earth wizard nazis over POWER OF FRIENDSHIP ending anyday

also music was better in the first series.

>>133568706
Conquerors of Shamballa was good, fuck you.

>>133574003
I don't dislike Brotherhood, but it just didn't click with me as well. I prefer the manga to both though.

>>133574003
That's the way some people feel catharsis. Don't knock it.

>>133574217
>don't knock it
>all tragedyfags only constantexcuse for hating brotherhood is because power of friendship ending
Hypocritical faggots

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-first series has a better ed. he actually became a man and realized you had to kill sometimes.

-homunculus in the first series were ACTUALLY homunculus and not whatever stupid shit they were in brotherhood. they also actually had meaningful connections with the characters based on who made them.

-the tone was just all around better in the first series, brotherhood had better action but fell into a predicable plot with no real meaning outside who vs who fight scenes

still like brotherhood though

Brotherhood was okay, but I really fucking hated the last 1/4 of it with Father wanting to absorb god or some shit and become the ultimate being (which he does but they kill him anyway). Thinking back on it, it was a really "Japanese" ending with a huge dose of shonen. At least 2003 FMA didn't go off the rails into batshit retard territory.

>>133574210
>I prefer the manga to both though.
>prefers anime not adapted properly to the manga then the one that is
>that logic

>>133574281
>implying I was talking about which ending was better
Some faggots just like to stir up shit, and some think that a sad ending make AOTY and a DEEP story. FMA 2003 unfortunately attracts both types of people. I'm just saying that enjoying a good sad ending is entirely legitimate.

>>133568245
gateway anime

>>133574350
>At least 2003 FMA didn't go off the rails into batshit retard territory.
>implying the sudeen alternate universes with nazis wasn't retarded territory

>>133574324
>-homunculus in the first series were ACTUALLY homunculus and not whatever stupid shit they were in brotherhood.
They were half-assed zombies in 2003 and actually constructed lifeforms in the manga/brotherhood.

>>133574474
It's better than a retarded old man wanting to eat god to gain his powers.

>>133574405
It works both ways. Doesn't excuse either side complaining about both endings because of personal bias.

>>133574401
Did someone shit in your coffee this morning?
>2003 anime
>adds some original bullshit
>Brotherhood
>half of it is original bullshit
The logic seems fine to me.

>>133574513
2003 was about a retarded old lady wanting to see god to give her immortality because her boyfriend told her 'we gonna die one day' and she was all like 'no'

>>133574662
>originality is somehow meant to be better then following the source material
Your logic is still shitty.

>>133568432
>Brotherhood is superior in every way and is actually cannon
Episode 1 of Brotherhood is literally filler shit.

Did you not even watch the first fucking episode in the anime, retard-kun?

>>133573879
>imdb
i mean i agree with you anon but you are a giant faggot for using that as a point in your argument

>>133570445
it's almost like you missed the whole point of the manga

The atrocious comedy in brotherhood kills it

>>133574975
Better then throwing around biased arguments left and right.

I read the manga first, then tried watching 2003. Got like 4 episodes in and couldn't fucking handle it, shit was going off the rails from day 1.

>dude turns into a chicken
>random ghost-story about a puppetteer nigga
>slow as fuck pace with everybody moping around and being the height of melodrama

Brotherhood was great.

>>133575241
>muh bias > your bias

>>133568550
Like we needed a shitty 3d Fallout