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Do you agree? Has anime stagnated? "Cute girls doing cute

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Do you agree? Has anime stagnated? "Cute girls doing cute things" has definitely taken off, but has it completely eclipsed/drowned out original work?
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If you want people to read your wall of text, sell it better.
Your use of the feel face betrays your newness to this place.
Also, it seems that the text doesn't quite talk about the topic your thread is supposed to be about.

This thread is shit.
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>>133554964
Japan has always been cute girls doing cute things.
Anime just gets mass produced faster so there is more [CGDCT] any given season but relatively speaking, it's probably still the same percentages.

Herbivore Men however is a fun concept. It's happening in western countries as well.
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Yeah, it's true. You have maybe four or five shows as season that have some sort of creativity to them (which may or may not even be good) and the rest is just otaku pandering. It's frustrsting, really.
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>>133555291
>it's probably still the same percentages.
I doubt it.

I think moe shows have definitely risen in percentage.

It doesn't make any difference to the regular viewer though.

You might have like only 20 shows per season, and maybe 5 of them are not moe, but now you have like 40 shows and still 5 of them are not moe. (Statistics are wrong, but I'm just showing an example)

Just how many shows can someone watch per season? Most people don't watch that much. Each of these shows have their own demographic.

In other words, even if moe has increased, it doesn't detract from your anime experience.
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>>133555547
>Statistics are wrong, but I'm just making up numbers to prove a point
Why don't you actually work it out?
The data is there and easily available.
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God damn I wish the internet never found out that rat experiment. I also wish the internet understood that anime watchers are so few that they have no impact on Japanese birth rates.
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Fact: We need brave men like Takemoto to bring us more cute boys.
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>>133555607
Rat experiment?
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>>133555653
Mice, rat, same thing.
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>>133555669
No, I just don't know what experiment you are talking about, please explain.
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>>133555709
The one mentioned in OP image.
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>>133555715
Oh. Man, sometimes I'm fucking stupid, sorry.
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>>133554964
Dude, what? Moe is rare. There is like two shows a year. Shipping bait shows and otaku pandering harems are rampant tho.
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>>133554964
What the fuck are you even talking about? A CGDCT could be original work if there wasn't a source material. I don't see how original work means "not CGDCT".
Another thing is, why would anime stagnate because of a genre? It would stagnate because of decrease in viewership or substantial lack in profit. Hence, it is not the case.
I don't understand what you're talking about OP, stop being a faggot.
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>>133555787
The director's words are the most poignant. I fear that obsessive fans drive the industry and push out other genres. Like how FPS dominates modern video games. Almost everything else is not up to AAA standard and most could be considered niche
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>>133555844
Should have known you are a /v/ermin.
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>>133554964
>I am a fucking english only pleb moron who can only read scanlations
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>>133555547
A show can't be moe or not moe.
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>>133555844
FPS hasn't been the dominant genre for years. Publishers have realized that they can't reach CoD. Now it's Assassin's Creed clones and Open World games.
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>>133555919
A show that doesn't follow anime stereotypes and cliches and that has no likable weak characters can be considered not-moe.
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>>133554964
I feel like if a confident and capable male were to move to Japan he would be king and have his own harem.
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Cute girls doing cute things hasn't eclipsed anything. Harem and self-insert power fantasies have eclipsed everything.
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>>133555592
It's Sunday and I'm lazy / tired desu senpai
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>people watch 5 shows a season
>find irrefutable evidence that harems and CGDCT have taken over and make up 80% of the 50+ shows that air every season
>are too lazy to share that evidence with other anons
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>>133554964
Maybe if you actually watched anime rather than just looking at the promo art on season charts then you'd have a better idea what's going on. Just looking at this season, the only full-length CGDCT shows are Yuru Yuri and GochiUsa, but as far as originals go you have Comet Lucifer, Concrete Revolutio, K, Gundam IBO, Peeping Life, Valkyrie Drive and like three otome/fujoshi shows. Then there's Lupin and Osomatsu, which are practically originals. But even if you had 50 CGDCT shows every season, that doesn't preclude the production of original anime, because anime is not a zero-sum game.

Also anime is completely unrelated to the declining birth rates and "herbivorous male phenomenon" in Japan. Those are by and large caused by economic factors. Every other developed nation is in pretty much the same boat. The inverse correlation between fertility rates and GDP per capita is well known.
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>"Cute girls doing cute things" has definitely taken off
The fuck are you even on about, we still have 2-3 times as much haremshit as cute girls doing cute things shows.
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>>133554964
>Cute girls doing cute things" has definitely taken off, but has it completely eclipsed/drowned out original work
>Anime
>original work
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>>133554964
>Calhoun

B-Barny?
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>>133555944
> that has no likable weak characters can be considered not-moe
Moe means it's a character that makes you care for there well being, Someone can still be competent while making you care about the character, It's called good writing
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>>133554964
>every japanese watch anime and dont like sex

and the reason is very simple for me. They have tiny dicks. They need a couple of new generations with bigger cocks
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>>133557115
*their
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Out of forty full-lenght shows airing this season there are two CGDCT shows, three if you count Aikatsu that targets primarily little girls and not adult men, clearly we are drowning.
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>>133554964
That guy is dumb.
If that formula truly works and what really sells, than anime will be making a hell lot more money rather than declining faster than my dick when I saw a hentai with a furry plot twist
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>>133555669
There was actually a similar experiment carried out on rats instead of mice, with roughly the same results.
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>>133554964
There are more good shows coming out per year from the 2000s onwards than there ever have been before that. Sure, there are few shows you could really call masterpieces, but that still doesn't mean much for the average watcher. Also, considering that western films are now something like 95% adaptions, and that western television is mostly just rehashed sitcoms, crime dramas, and reality shows, it's kind of silly to point fingers at anime and its "cute girls doing cute things". Newfags don't seem to understand that there's actually a lot of variance (relatively speaking) in that sort of show, aside from the obligatory high school setting.
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>>133555861
>mention video games
>hurr fucking /v/ermin
Fuck off.
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>>133557387
>Newfags don't seem to understand that there's actually a lot of variance (relatively speaking) in that sort of show, aside from the obligatory high school setting.
If you're going to give newfags false hope at least make it more believable.
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>>133557459
>being this buttblasted over a simple remark
Easy /v/ermin.
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>>133555607
Didnt they try that on dogs, cats and dolphins too?
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>>133557471
It is belieavable though because the "things" part of the CGDCT acronym can be any of thousands of things, from Airsoft to making out and almost anything really.
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The only reason "Herbivore men" exist is because of the increasing amount of worthless whores.
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>>133557212
Stop being moe on /a/. You are ruining the whole discussion. Soon everybody will be adorable and it will kill the thread.
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>>133557497
The guy made a simple comparison. Stop shitting up the board with low quality posts.
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>>133557655
You're the one being buttblasted in the first place not me.
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>>133557587
go plan your next school shooting on your board
>>>/r9k/catalog
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>>133557707
>being a whore
>being butthurt
I'm not even that guy but you're actions are fucking obvious.
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This "cute girl doing cute things" phrase is really cringey. Like can you not find a better description of a genre or a type of show?
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>>133557810
You can call it CGDCTs you know.
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>>133557387
>Law and Order
>CSI
>NCIS
>Cold Case
>Bones
>Criminal Minds

You may have a point
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>>133557862

That abbreviation is dumb and we all know it.

I mean if its neither comedy, drama...what is it? Fucking nothing?
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>>133557810
I just use moeshit .
Short, simple, gets the point across, doesn't sound anywhere near as cringey as cute girls doing cute things.
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>>133557965
>moeshit
How does it feel to get called /v/ everytime you use it?
>>>/v/
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>>133557965
It also doesn't describe anything very well, Sabagebu had cute girls doing cute things, but it wasn't moe in the slightest.
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>>133557995
Or maybe you can just call them yuri.
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>>133555607
That experiment is supposed to be on the effects of population density. My country has the 3rd largest population density in the world, and I'm in the 4th most right now. None of the conclusions drawn from the experiment have any basis at all in human society. People need to stop linking shit to this fucking experiment.
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I'd take 10 shitty originals for one good one.

I'm just sick of Original mecha shows they're all the same they're all fucking boring.

If we had more open minded and creative shows like KLK, Sure you might not like it but you can't deny it's original as you can get.

Japan has no people willing to break the box of cliches and generic character types.
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>>133554964
>image

tl;dr and feelshit;dr
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>>133558045
Houkago no Pleiades is the best original of 2015
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>>133558045
>KLK
>original
Go to bed, Lelouch.
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>>133558045
Just because something is different, doesn't mean it's good.

Anyway the purpose of anime is to make money which as a side-effect may be entertaining. Why take a risk on original stories when you know moeshit and haremshit print money?
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>>133557994
I can't say I care.
Anyone who only has that to reply with obviously isn't someone I'd hold in high regard anyway, so I can't find it I'm myself to care about a comment like that.

And before you say something like "Haha you replied to this post, so you do care!", it's only because you asked.
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>>133558077
He didn't watch it, I remember because that was the only thread I didn't have to see his posts that season.
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>>133554964
That fucking mouse study is such bullshit. Psychology is already half pseudoscience, but there's literally zero science in this study. He fucked up one mouse population and then wanted to wax poetic on the fate of the human race? Give me a break.

Anyway anime is fine. There have always been cute girls, it just how Japan rolls.
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Name 5 good ongoing shows (I can't).

OnePunch Man
Shokugeki no Soma (barely makes it)
...

???
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>>133558033
>the effects of population density.
Not quite.
It's about a society in which there are no real roles for you left to fill out.
You can have an insanely densely populated area and still have everybody feel like they have a purpose.
You can also have an almost empty country with everybody feeling useless.
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>>133558285
>Shokugeki no Soma
>ongoing
I thought the anime is finished already.
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I didn't read it, but I know for a fact anime reached its top in 1995 when Hideaki Anno himself showed the world how it was done.

From that moment on, unable to top or even just match Evangelism, everybody gave up and retired to doing moe shows.
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>>133558263
>. There have always been cute girls, it just how Japan rolls.

In Anime usually these type of anime where actually aimed at little girls, adults happened to watch them. MyLittlePony Syndrome I guess.

Does any anon know the very first manga work that was aimed at adults that was about cute girls doing cute things?
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>>133558423
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>>133558496
>you will never have a harem of geisha meeting your every sexual need
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>>133554964
>rats of NIMH

YOU STUPID FUCKER IM ONTO YOU

I TOOK MIDDLE SCHOOL ENGLISH
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>>133558614
The things I would do for a cute girl serving me delicious cooking whenever I want.
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>>133558614
It would probably go like the 2nd last arc of mononoke
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Instead of things like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad1bBoiPkQc

now we have things like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlgRsmKjOgs

Where did everything go so wrong?
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>>133559466
>disliking Gochuumon
Are you mentally challenged anon?
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>>133557115
Moe means characters with a fine mustache.
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>>133555649
No, that's gay.
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>>133554964
It's impossible to "drown" original work. Also, "cute girls doing cute things" isn't really the majority of the works out there and never was. If anything battle harems like SAO or Index are way more popular.
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>>133554964
>"Cute girls doing cute things" has definitely taken off, but has it completely eclipsed/drowned out original work?
There is not much SOL/comedy around. Most shit is pseudo fantasy with swords or guns and chuunis. You're a moron.
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>>133560164
so it's been dead for over 20 years and all we've been doing is humping its rotten carcass and its bare bones for all those years huh
that's almost kind of hot
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>>133554964
No
No
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>>133560115
>pseudo fantasy
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I'm tired how a medium only restricted to imagination is tied down by the same mundane HS setting with the same shit mundane characters over and over again. What a waste.
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Japanese customers just don't give shits about the same anime we do. All there is to it.

Like how we can make amazing movies all we want, but all China's interested in watching is Transformers 4 with it's pandering.
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>>133559835
Takemoto is married, has a kid and fucking loves cute boys so why can't you, faggot?
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>>133554964
Humans are not mice. Humans are able to think and reason while mice only live off of instinct so humanity will never go instinct despite how disgusting and evil humanity is.
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>>133554964
I love that documentary.
https://youtu.be/0Z760XNy4VM
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>>133554964
How do you fit 600+ rats in a small cage without them trampling over the young and killing off the new generations? This "experiment" is pretty sketchy.
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>>133558175
Yeah that's the down side, I can SEE why Japan doesn't want to think outside the box and not take risks because of low sales so they stick to the mecha original the school boy finds a huge powerful mecha and shit like that, Ah well.

>>133558086
?

>>133558077
I haven't watched it, I really want to though some of the images I've seen look really fucking comfy, I gave up on Gainax and assumed it would be shit.
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>>133560599
>small cage
see
>>133560597
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>>133557870
I like how you name those shows in which most of them are cancelled.
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>>133554964
We need more anime about a boy who is thrust into a world he knows nothing about and has to live his hormone-filled days and nights selecting a hot babe to sleep with.
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>>133559555

>Dubs G-Ai

Patrick Bateman falls in love with his dubs.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with dub-finding bot. Never minding the strange repeating digits, he immediately uses it, and is overjoyed to find out that the dubs have a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he engages in more dubs getting ways, he instead acquires singles. Confused by these turn of events, the Wall Street businessman investigates and finds out that the dubs he made is not the same dubs he fell in love with. In fact, the dubs don't exist in this universe at all. They are dubs from an alternate universe, who has fallen in love with the MC's own psycho self, who too is blissfully unaware of their crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While they shitpost all over 4chan, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of DUBS.
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>>133560517
>Japanese customers just don't give shits about the same anime we do. All there is to it.

I love how different their tastes are compared to the rest of the world. An obscure RPG can sell millions in Japan and keep the series alive, whereas games that do well internationally (999, Zero Escape) almost lose out on getting a sequel. Big O only got a sequel because of the international audience. How must it feel being Japanese and making something that other Japanese don't like?
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>>133554964
>no-name studio owner can't make the anime he wants because no talent
>b-but we have to pander to otaku
So fucking mediocre.
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>>133555607
Fucking this. It was one thing when it got spammed on /pol/ and /r9k/ every fucking day, why does it have to go on every board now
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>>133558370
It was actually in 97.
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>>133560916
Whenever that image is brought up at least a few people always bring up how it's from an irrelevant studio owner.
I wanted to find out who exactly the guy is and by digging around a bit I found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahTYcJR1qo the interview from where that screencap is from.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=3378 is the studio in question. On that list I can't seem to find a single anime they made, they just worked with other studios on their anime.
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>>133560164

This fucking picture means nothing. Of course most anime is kid and anime friendy.

CGDCT is a different kind of shit. Its like MyLittlePony extra engineered for adults. On principle.
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>>133561581

Fuck me, I mean kid and family friendly.
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>>133554964
The only think that I got out of this text is that I should move to Japan and fuck their girls because nips are /a/-tier material. Am I right?
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>>133561580
Wait no, I didn't read the list properly. They made a six episode OVA and a two cour TV anime? So at least that's something.
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Anime has always been full of self-insert pandering, with a few SoL gems every year. The only thing that changed is that designs have gotten better and more appealling, especially thanks to digital coloring. Whether you want to use that appeal to move your viewers or pander to otaku is another question, and completely irrelavent to whether more appealling in design is good.
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>shitting on cute girls doing cute things
>all the haremshit gets a break
You kids are hilarious.
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>>133554964
you don't have time to fuck women when you work 6am to 8pm, it's got nothing to do with anime.

also, do you guys rekon anime is so popular in Japan because the people there live such shitty lives that they indulge in the escapism that anime provides?
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>>133554964
As has been pointed out the rise of voluntary celibacy is caused by what it means to work in Japan. They just don't have the time or energy to go around having relationships. They are also smart enough not to have kids they can't support/don't have time for unlike certain racial groups.

The worker shortage problem is economic dogma anyways, we are at the threshold of mass general purpose automation. Soon having employees will be uneconomical; especially in a place that doesn't artificially inflate it's population with 3rd worlders, like Japan.
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>>133554964
There's like 2 SoL airing this season.
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>look at airing anime chart
>almost all the shit anime is action
>the best shows are SoL
Action is the cancer killing anime
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>>133562630
>doesn't enjoy both SoL and action

The only cancer here is you.
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