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What made the second season so unsatisfying?

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What made the second season so unsatisfying?
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Initial hype died off.
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>>133546142
People realized they were watching shit.
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>>133546142
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Best girl was already dead
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Because people don't realize that the show was made as fanservice to the people who read the VN.

Only secondaries and nitpicky faggots think it was a bad or dumbed down showing.
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>>133546142
Split cour kills this.
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>>133546142
Wait, Cu is with Illya? The fuck?
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>>133546142

No hour long specials. Archer vs. Shirou should have been one hour long bout.
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>>133546939
So they could lock arms back to back and do nothing for another 40 minutes?
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>>133546257
Put your trip on.
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The second season had better episodes than the first.

What episodes in season 1 reach the levels of 17, 20, 24, and 25?

Maybe 0?
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>>133546257
Wow, so you're telling us the VN that is long as fuck has better characterization than the animu? why I never would have guessed until this faggot pointed it out! the scales have truly fallen from my eyes thanks to you faggot.
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>>133547039
>Implying it wouldn't have been the best part of this cheap fate cash in.
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>>133546757
3/10
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>>133547151

You're baiting, right?
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>>133547327
Contrary to what you may think, people can have different opinions than you, and aren't insidiously trying to troll.

I watched episodes from season two way more often than the first, sans episode 0.

Hell, I watched episode 20 over ten times.
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>>133546142
The plot's there, but the characters are all over the place.
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>>133547405
>Hell, I watched episode 20 over ten times
Wow, that's sad.
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>>133547670
He said it like it was a statement of pride.
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>>133547670
It's sad to watch something you enjoy?
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>>133547151
Are you seeking a reaction or do you really believe this?
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>>133547781
I know it may be shocking for you that someone can have different opinions than you, that they can enjoy things that you don't enjoy, but it's just something that you have to come to understand at some point in life.
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>>133547830
Easy, NeoGAF guy.
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>>133547861
What?

Honestly you're saying nothing here, other than being mildly shocked that someone enjoys things that you don't.
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>>133547670
That's the only good episode in the second season. I personally rewatched the Last Stardust part at least 30 times.
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>>133547928
You didn't like #22? I found it to be the most memorable and exciting episode of the show.
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>>133547928
There were plenty of great episodes in the second season, and plenty of great scenes overall.

I mean I watched the Gil fight just as much, the epilogue was just fantastic for someone who wanted to finally see stuff with the Clock Tower, and stuff like Gae Bolg vs Rho Aias were just impressive looking to watch.
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>>133547928
I think I liked 25 the most. It was kind of bittersweet and made it a nice ending.
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>>133547928
Episode 0 was the kicker for me.
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>>133547953
>>133547988

I don't like Miurashit. The only good thing he made were the RN openings.
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>>133548126
You don't like an action animator directing a TV anime?
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>>133548126
You don't like the year's best director? I think you might have some wrong taste, my friend.
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>>133546535
So far only one real answer to OP's question
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>>133547151
This. It had higher highs, but unfortunately way lower lows.
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>>133548126

I hope he's not directing Heaven's Feel.
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>>133548162
No. He can direct action, but that's the least important part of F/SN. See this wonderful image >>133546257

>>133548166
>those results
End my suffering.
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>>133546939
For what reason?
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>>133548236
bitch, citing that image is a sign of your shit and discardable taste
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>>133548206
What was the lowest low?
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>>133548236
>See this wonderful image

You mean an image created by a person who has a massive, absolutely unreasonable hateboner for the UBW anime, and treats Miura's name like the fucking Boogieman?
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>>133548308
Not that guy, but the weakest episode of the show for me was probably like, episode 9?

Can you remember anything from that episode?
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>>133548240

To develop the thematic and nuanced nature of the scene without it being choppy. It's a pivotal moment for Shirou and Archer. The rest of UBW doesn't function without it.
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>>133548339
Yeah, it was the one where Shirou has gay sex with Issei and sneaks around the Matou house.

The worst episodes by far for me were #22, #18 and #25.
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>>133548308
Caster's episode. Or should I say her master's episode, because they removed the backstory that actually focused on Caster for the sake of repeating the simple point that her master was shit.
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>>133548379
>#25

What? That was one of the best episodes of the series. It was a proper epilogue to the story, unlike just leaving us hanging in the school in the VN.
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>>133548423
How did they leave anything hanging? Shirou and Rin headed towards a future of infinite possibility, a perfect ending for a story like UBW.

The anime epilogue was nice but had no place in the show, they should have sold it as an OVA and added everything they cut from Nasu's script.
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>>133548360
and they succeeded without making it overly wrong
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>>133548481
Nasu himself talked about how the original ending to the route was incomplete, because he wanted people to move on Heaven's Feel after that. The anime had no obligation on that front, considering HF is still years away.

The anime epilogue gives you a solid answer on Shirou and Rin's future, and while adding in everything Nasu wanted would have been nice, most of what they cut wasn't exactly essential. I mean read through this.

You can freely stop watching at episode 24 though, if that's what you want the ending to be.
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>>133546142
Shirou vs archer isn't that good. The rest was alright.
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>>133548582
Nasu talks about a lot of things, frankly. I read an interview where he completely misunderstood Kara no Kyoukai, his own story.

In terms of what they cut the ending is the most obvious problem, and you can't stop with episode 24 because it doesn't have the graduation stuff.
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>>133546142
Realta Nua version put a damper on it for me.
No, I didn't expect it to break out into porn, but Transplanted Crest was a terrible replacement and Ufotable didn't do anything to fix it
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>>133546142
Why is Shirou such a stud?
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>>133548739
For fucks sake, they gave us Shirou asking Lancer to not hit on Rin, but no kissu? still rustles me
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>>133546142
>Scanlines

Filthy
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>>133548717
It doesn't have the graduation stuff, but the story's still basically done.

To Nasu though, he wanted the story to feel like he made an ending to UBW, not just asking you to move on to HF. Here's what he exactly said.


>I think you'll see why the stage moved for #25 if you watch it.
>To our viewers who have followed us for two seasons, it's not because "we're shifting to the Sakura route next," but because we wanted to give you "the continuation of UBW."
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>>133548717
suonds like you just don't know what you're talking about
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>>133548582
>don't worry about it lol
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>>133546257
I feel like the only thing in this image the anime didn't convey was the fact that Shirou is actually fucking with Rin half the time.
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>>133548919
That was one of the biggest problems with S1. He went from "snarky dude who is on equal terms with Rin" to "dense highschooler who gets bullied by aggressive tsundere".
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>>133548989
Nasu reworked Shirou for the anime. I'm serious.

He wanted him to be more stoic, and less emotional.
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>>133549069
This guy again?
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>>133548811
Yeah that really pissed me off too. I felt cheated even though I didn't particularly care considering episode 25 was a good enough ending for me.
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>>133549101
What guy? Nasu?

Yeah, he tended to have his finger in the pie when it came to this adaptation.
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>>133549069
I know all of this already, and it's a combination of his bad contributions to the UBW anime, laziness in getting Tsukihime out and the awful Garden of Avalon novel that make me no longer take him seriously.
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My biggest problem with the anime was lack of Illya.

As far as I remember Shirou has fuck all interaction with Illya in the anime.
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>>133549133
No, you. The NeoGAF guy with the stalker problems.
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Anyone know what changed with the BDs? I heard we got the Good End
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>>133549146
Wow, it's almost like this was the adaptation of the route with least amount of Illya in it.
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>>133549146
Yeah, that's par for the course with UBW.
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>>133549146
He has fuck all interaction with Ilya in UBW.
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>>133549146
They gave us more Ilya than was in the route
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>>133549161
What the fuck are you on.
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>>133546142
Ufo wasting three episodes with Archer and Shirou monologuing and going in circles.
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>>133549211
Knew it.
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>>133549146
You can blame this guy for convincing Ufotable not to adapt the first route where Illya has a bigger role:

http://myanimelist.net/people/12167/Miura_Takahiro
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>>133549167
Lots of stuff. Around 25~ or so minutes of new animation, with 10 of it being dedicated to a Sunny Day OVA, and the rest being additions to various episodes. Off the top of my head, we're talking 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 21, and 24 all getting new stuff.

Plus there were a few continuity fixes, and some touched up general animation.
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>>133549216
>while it's airing
>FUCKING UFO WHERE ARE THE MONOLOGUES SHIT ADAPTATION
>now
>FUCKING UFO WASTING EPISODES ON MONOLOGUES
What happened in the past six months since I last came to these threads?
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>>133549146
Oh yeah, I really loved all those scenes he had with Ilya during UBW in the VN. Like the one with the what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>133549267
Fucking Based Miura saving us from retreading the Fate route for the millionth time.
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>>133549281
They're both true. They rushed the first part of the 2nd half, and dragged out Shirou vs Archer for 3 episodes.
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>>133549268
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>>133546142
Because there was not only a noticeable drop in quality, but a rushed shift in tone.

It didn't help that the main UBW episodes (20 and 21 I think?) had QUALITY everywhere and were paced really poorly. I mean, they could've at least aired it as one hour or something.

ALso, it turned Gil into a retard by not only changing the context of the fight, but the actual interactions in it with Shirou spamming Rho Aias and flying around.
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>>133549267
Jesus Christ you are fucking deranged. It's like that guy I remember from /v/ who thought Eiji Aonuma was Satan incarnate.
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>>133546142
Not enough Sakura.
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>>133546142
I was really excited to see this adaption. Watched every episode as it aired, all the way up to the final episode of season one where I freaked out at this illusion.
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>>133549268
>BD just adds more filters and cleans up some SE

I was expecting more.
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>>133549324
There was like, one bit in episode 21 that had wonky animation. Come on.
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>>133549324
The CGI 3D UBW was absolutely disgusting.
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>>133549328
No it's true that Miura is the reason we didn't get Fate. The guy with all of the materials probably has the text.
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>>133549281
>Implying you can't complain about both
You can even tell the point where they started making Shirou monologue like crazy. I guess someone at ufotable finally realized UBW simply does not work without seeing Shirou's inner thoughts.
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>>133549177
>>133549186
>>133549203
>>133549208
>>133549284

My bad, I was thinking the scene where you meet Illya at the park was before route split.
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>>133549353
More from what? It was already a pretty good looking scene beforehand.
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>>133549341
But then I don't know what happened. It all completely died in my heart. Around the Answer episode and all the boredom surrounding it.
I haven't even watched past that, not even interested.

And all the rabid ufotable fans from MAL or wherever just make me less interested as time goes on.
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>>133549358
Pretty much the only 'fight' part of the fight had shitty animation, yes.

I mean, if you're going to change the VN and try to make it flashier, you should at least keep your animation up to par.

At least the final charge with Shirou was good, even if the giant swords were dumb as fuck.
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>>133549375
Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] Deluxe Booklet I
http://pastebin.com/8zPfKaNd

Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] Staff Message Book
http://imgur.com/a/KuVHW
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>>133549400
The animation wasn't even "shitty", it was just subpar. >>133549396 I mean look at this. This fucking 10 second loop caused people to shit themselves for months. It's ridiculous. No one would do that for any other anime.

The thing about the Archer fight though was always the answer Shirou got, and that part had some really nice looking stuff.
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>>133549268
gracie
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>>133549478
Ready to spam the thread with WEBMs again?
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>>133549380
The route split is right at the very beginning. The only scene with Ilya before the route split is the "You're gonna die Onii-chan" scene.
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>>133549478
I don't think the problem with that webm was the animation? It was the directing. The bounce was terrible.

In comparison the Last Stardust scene didn't have much animation but worked on solid design. I mean that CGI smoke is definitely not winning any awards.
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>>133549478
>The animation wasn't even "shitty"
It looks godawful compared to everything else. I absolutely lost my shit when Shirou actually bounced off the ground and couldn't take the fight seriously.

It didn't help that they still kept in Archer's line about how if he backed off, Shirou would fall over and die, when just seconds before Shirou was jumping around like a spazz.

>No one would do that for any other anime.
Because ufotablefags hyped up the fight to no end. Then it turned out to be pretty mediocre right after the amazing episode 20.
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>>133549396
I enjoyed the 2nd half of the show but I get what you mean. The discussion surrounding the 2nd cour really just reaffirmed my disgust at how hypocritical and obnoxious fandoms can be.
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>>133549571
ufotable has a really bad problem with forcing CGI into everything (probably to cover expenses) and half the time the CGI looks like something an intern came up with.

What's the studio that did the CCC opening? That one was great and showcased some excellent animation - they should be contracted to do some TM original like Last Episode.
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>>133549615
Shaft

They worked on Madoka Magica
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>>133549577
>It looks godawful compared to everything else. I absolutely lost my shit when Shirou actually bounced off the ground and couldn't take the fight seriously.

You absolutely lost your shit at a 10 second shot of someone doing a little bounce.

I mean gain some perspective. I just find it fucking ridiculous that close to half a year later, we have people bitching over a couple of seconds of animation. And it's like, the only thing people bring up.

>Because ufotablefags hyped up the fight to no end

Man we had people worried about the outcome of the fight before the show even aired, but all things considered, I think they handled it decently overall.
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>>133549438
-- In other words, "Fate" titles are already out in the world in many different forms already, so you didn't think it was necessary to use the Saber Route that comprises the first story of the original?

Nasu: That's right. To put it another way, the Saber Route at this point, we ought to make some significant alterations. If we want to keep the plot as-is, the Rin Route is more suitable, and it will seem fresh. It's the most solid of all Fate/stay night, with combat and buildup, and unorthodox approaches. And on top of that, if we could present the themes of the Rin Route across two seasons as a single, long story, it would definitely be worth doing. It's suitable for a weekly format where the story would build up episode by episode, but I also want the audience to occasionally see it as "a long story that deals with a single theme." Mr. Miura, the director felt the same, so we decided to give it a shot even though the bar would be set pretty high.

-- True, when it becomes a show where themes that figure into the Fate/stay night title as a whole come to the forefront, especially in the first half. What was your approach to depicting that in the form of an animated TV series?

Nasu: Personally, I think that it's impossible to fully convey the quality of the game. That's not me giving up, but rather that I think that they're two entirely different things. So rather than it being a question of how to adapt the game, I thought we should start off by deciding what to cut out. We'd carve it down to its bare bones and then graft uniquely anime flesh onto its skeleton. That's the process that I wanted to help with. It was the director, Mr. Miura, who had the visions of what it was going to be like during the adaption process, so if he said, "I want more brachial muscles here," I would say, "Let's add more, then" and add away. I think I was pretty committed to that process.
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>>133549615
Kara no Kyoukai did CGI right, the others not so much.

CCC's opening was animated by SHAFT.
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>>133549679
>You absolutely lost your shit at a 10 second shot of someone doing a little bounce.
I lost my shit at that entire segment, yes.

Like I said, episode 20 was amazing. Then the first thing we see in 21 was that shitty fight then it basically ended. It was a complete rollercoaster of quality and poor directing.

I would've preferred it they stuck with the VN if they're going to make a flashy fight that shitty.
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>>133549615
Ufotable's CGI direction for their Type-Moon works are strange, it's like they aren't interested in making the CG blend in with the hand-drawn stuff. The CGI in their other shows like Majokko and Naoko-san blends in better.
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>>133549615
>What's the studio that did the CCC opening?
I wonder
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>>133549781
There really wasn't much left in the VN overall if you want to bring that up. I mean after Shirou says "I am the bone of my sword", it's at the tail end of things.
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>>133549829
Majokko is really beautiful. I will never get over the fact that Hirao didn't direct UBW.

I heard Ufotable's contract with Type Moon ends after HF, and it'd probably be for the best if their collaborations end there.
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>>133549829
I remember once reading that the use of CG there is occasionally an outright thematic choice.

Like, the reason Berserker was CG in Fate/Zero, was because they wanted to represent the "otherworldly" quality he had, and how people couldn't really comprehend what he looked like.

Using that logic, I can understand why UBW was CG too. It's an actual other world.
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>>133549781
Episode 21 was storyboarded by Takahiro Miura, and you say it's a "complete rollercoaster of quality and poor directing" compared to based Suhara's legendary episode 21?
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>>133549899
>I will never get over the fact that Hirao didn't direct UBW

Say what you will about UBW, but it actually fucking finished, unlike God Eater.
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>>133549642
>>133549729
Interesting, I had a feeling that their style was familiar.

Still think they should do some more TM work since I'm not satisfied with ufotable anymore.
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The epilogue was pretty fucking good though
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>>133549924
But it looked so much better in the Realta Nua opening where it was hand drawn, so I can't accept that.

>>133549932
You mean Suhara's 20.
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>>133549899
>I heard Ufotable's contract with Type Moon ends after HF
There is no public knowledge of how their relationship works, and if anything anime adaptations are handled on a case-by-case basis.

>>133549960
To be fair, Hirao got screwed over by UBW's production. The studio was cutting it close with the show's second half and had no time to prepare for GE.
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>>133549990
It looked so much better in a set of openings that probably had about as much budget as a whole episode of UBW?
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>>133549849
Like I said, it's about the context.

21 starts off with a terrible fight, a silly charge by Shirou, then it just kind of ends. It really magnifies the issue that would've normally been minor had it been all one episode.
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>>133549990
UBW in the Realta Nue OP was CGI too, but with a different texture applied. They shouldn't have changed the art direction.
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>>133550012
There were no sources, I just heard an anon make an offhand comment about it. Sounded pretty believable considering ufo's current state and TM bringing in studios like A1 and Shaft for game openings.
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>>133550038
I don't think budget is the issue here at all.

>>133550050
I didn't notice. I guess that's telling of the quality.
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>>133550044
So it sounds to me like part of the problem for you would just be alleviated by watching episodes 20 and 21 back to back.
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>>133546535
This is the correct answer. She is notably absent from the second season promotional poster.
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>>133550051
>believing a random anon on the internet
This is just as bad as the notion of Deen holding the rights to Type-Moon adaptation for years. It's just a matter of producer relations and interest, it would be stupid to lock in a contract with a studio for years.
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>>133550050
Why did they change it anyways? Even the BD UBW looks like dogshit compared to the VN opening.

>>133550051
I really hope Shaft ends up doing something.

>A1
Which one did they do?
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>>133550091
I'm pretty I said that in my first post, Anon. Please, keep up.

>>133550092
Because she is fucking dead?
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>>133550102
>Which one did they do?
Grand Order. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1sP4BKSVbI
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>>133550102
>Why did they change it anyways?
Different art director perhaps? Koji Eto was art director on F/Z and UBW, I'm not sure if he worked on the PSVita openings.
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>>133546142
Archer vs Shirou being shit

>here come the xboxhueg swords!
>epic slowmotion
>Shirou stabbing Archer with only the tip of the sword
Retarded and anticlimatic as fuck
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>>133550137
It doesn't look that great to be honest, though it was for a phone game.
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>>133550186
>here come the xboxhueg swords!
It looked silly, but at least that part was well-animated.
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>>133550186
It's supposed to be
>Retarded and anticlimatic as fuck
That shows how outrageous it was.
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>>133550187
>>133550137
It's just the Nerawareta Gakuen main duo making a quick buck anyway.
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>>133550186
>>133550203
I, to this day, never understood the problem people had with giant swords.

Do they think it's somehow unrealistic?
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>>133550137
Looks decent. I like how they make Takeuchi's new art-style look acceptable and not retarded like ufotable.

>>133550187
Yeah, I spotted some poorly drawn segments in there too. Either way, I think having a new studio come in would give a breath of fresh air to the series, since Ufotable has been trending down lately.
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>>133550249
It was just silly that Archer would use giant swords instead of a wall of swords like he usually does.
Same problem like the DEEN claymore, really.
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so is UTW not doing the second cour blurays?
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>>133550294
He shot some regular swords, and then he shot some bigger ones. I don't think it was ridiculous.
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>>133550332
They are working on other things at the moment. The official subtitles from Aniplex are fine, though
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>>133550341
dat Sumerian limbo technique
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>>133550338
Considering we never see him use them again, I'd say yes.

There's no practical use for using the large swords and they're more inefficient.

>>133550341
Fabulous.
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>>133550407
>Considering we never see him use them again, I'd say yes.

He uses them to trap Rin during the scene in the church.

>There's no practical use for using the large swords and they're more inefficient.

People like Herakles exist, and we know for a fact he'd just be just as big even if he wasn't a Berserker.
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>>133550452
>He uses them to trap Rin during the scene in the church.
Weren't those just large claymores? I don't remember them being fucking buster swords and if they were, that's even dumber.

>People like Herakles exist,
Oh sorry, I forgot Shirou was as big a target as Herakles and not some half-dead low test ginger.
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>>133550128
It's just a flesh wound.
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>>133550332
They said should be out sometime in december
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>>133550521
>Weren't those just large claymores?

Taller than Rin, and wider than her face.

>Oh sorry, I forgot Shirou was as big a target as Herakles and not some half-dead low test ginger.

Are you criticizing that Archer was taking him a bit more seriously?
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>>133550531
God riders tits are so well shaped jesus christ im going cum buckets when I see sakuras animated tits bounce up and down in hf sex scenes
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>>133550592
They exist in the VN, too.
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>>133550592
>Taller than Rin, and wider than her face.
Those aren't the same swords, senpai.

>Are you criticizing that Archer was taking him a bit more seriously?
If Archer took anything in that fight seriously, he would've just lobbed a wall of regular-sized swords at Shirou.
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>>133550613
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>>133550592
Archer just wanted to bully his past self because he hates himself, not kill him.
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>>133550616
These definitely don't look as large as the swords in #21.

>>133550613
How do you like vampires?
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>>133550098
>これは、 ufotable 代表の 近藤光 が 武内崇 の「セイバールートがすべてのFateの中心にある」という言葉を聞き、それならテレビアニメ『Unlimited Blade Works』放送のタイミングでみんなが無償でセイバールートを楽しめる環境を作りたいと武内に相談したことにより決まった。
>また、三浦監督にアクションシーンを2014年の映像に合うものへとアレンジしてほしいと依頼している
>ストーリーは今回が初の映像化となる『 Heaven's Feel 』(桜ルート)。
>『Project Fate/stay night』のラストを飾る企画となる。

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/893/893123/
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>>133550621
>Those aren't the same swords, senpai.

That's semantics, are you criticizing their design now, or their size? Cause those ones are just as impractical as the giant ones he threw.

>If Archer took anything in that fight seriously, he would've just lobbed a wall of regular-sized swords at Shirou.

In the VN, Archer repeatedly got frustrated that Shirou wouldn't go down from his strikes. He wasn't just completely bored.
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>>133550613
How is puberty going for you, big guy?
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>>133550695
Nowhere does it say that it is the end of their relationship after HF.
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>>133550697
>That's semantics, are you criticizing their design now, or their size?
How is it semantics?
Claymores are real and commonly used weapons. The giant buster swords in 21 look dumb.

>In the VN, Archer repeatedly got frustrated that Shirou wouldn't go down from his strikes.
Yeah, and in the VN Archer didn't use those big dumb swords. In fact, the VN was a lot more grounded without the flashy shit ufotable came up with.
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>>133550761
Correct. Project Fate/stay night ends with Heaven's Feel.
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>>133550775
What the fuck were they thinking
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>>133550695
>We are planning to decorate the last of the "Project Fate / stay night".

How much money are they going to put into HF?
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>>133550775
Is that... Cloud's buster sword?
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>>133550775
>How is it semantics?

Because the swords used in the church scene are taller than 159 cm girl, to the point of where you can't even see their hits, and are as wide as her face. There is not practical use for that as a weapon.

The big thing here is whether or not we're criticizing how large they are, or just how they look. In which case, dude it's fucking anime. You think those swords wildly out of line with the tone of Type Moon andits weapons?
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>>133550823
I dunno but Kara no Kyoukai and more recently Majokko looked great. Ufotable have a good track record with films.
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>>133550866
Not seeing it.

It would have to be at least 2x as big and thick.
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#20: Unlimited Blade Works
Director - Suhara Takashi
Screenplay - Sato Kazuharu

#21: answer
Director - Miura Takahiro, Takahashi Takurowo
Screenplay - Sato Kazuharu
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>>133550894
>Because the swords used in the church scene are taller than 159 cm girl,
Like I said, claymores. I think the average size of a claymore is 145cm or something?

>The big thing here is whether or not we're criticizing how large they are,
You're trying to take this argument off-track.

Those swords look dumb for what Archer is doing and are widely impractical. There's no reason why he should use them at all when fighting Shirou, especially not 'getting serious' like you claimed, either.

It's laughable for the same reason why DEEN's giant sword was mocked.
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>>133550927
>Suhara Takashi
Will he save HF?
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>>133550972
He will save anime.
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>>133550972
Probably.
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>>133550972
Is Miura going to be doing HF? Because if so, I can't wait to laugh.
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>>133551033
Is anon going to read the production materials and find out? Because if so, I can't wait to laugh.
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>>133550960
Look at these swords and tell me there was a practical use for them.

And the guy was just getting frustrated. His Reality Marble was breaking down, and Shirou was still moving forward on his feet. He wanted the guy to die, as he explicitly says.

>It's laughable for the same reason why DEEN's giant sword was mocked.

That was mocked because it stuck in Kuzuki's back without any regard for physics. There was nothing wrong with the sword itself.
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>>133551033
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-07-27/fate-stay-night-heaven-feel-route-gets-film/.77059

>Takahiro Miura is providing the storyboards for the film

I'd wait for proper confirmation though.
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>>133551033
>>133550972
Our God King Miura is on HF, bless him.
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>>133549324
>I thought that was badass. Actually made me almost root for Shirou.
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>>133546257
>the anime fucked up his character!
Fate fans, everyone.
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>>133551090
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>133551121
I'm not being ironic.

Miura saved me from another adaptation of Fate. Miura is a fucking king.
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>>133551115
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>>133551073
>Look at these swords and tell me there was a practical use for them.
Claymores.
I'm done repeating myself. Don't expect a response on this if you keep regurgitating yourself.

>He wanted the guy to die, as he explicitly says.
If he wanted the guy to die he didn't, read the VN, he would've just fired a wall of regular swords so Shirou can't parry them all with one hand. What the fuck is the point of firing 4 gigantic and easily evadable buster swords?

>There was nothing wrong with the sword itself.
Oh, so you haven't been on /a/ that long. This explains everything.
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>>133551133
Man, I think a rewritten Fate route (Nasu has expressed desire to do it forever) by one of Ufotable's better directors would have been good.
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>>133550775
Anon the giant swors maybe is from here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverd_i_fjell
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>>133551231
That would have been excellent if Fate/Zero wasn't already animated.
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>>133550807
What? It's awesome
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>>133551171
>I'm done repeating myself. Don't expect a response on this if you keep regurgitating yourself.

You're the one who keeps regurgitating yourself, my friend. Those swords are twice the size of Rin, and yet you seemingly have no problem with them, but when similar sized ones are used later, it's a big deal?

>If he wanted the guy to die he didn't, read the VN

Yes anon, I know plenty about the Archer fight, you don't even have to mention anything, but in that particular moment, Archer was annoyed, because he was remember scenes from his past and declaring his desire to be a hero in front of Kerry. This is all shown in the scene in the anime. Just before he fires the swords, pic related, he gets annoyed from this, and tells him to die.

>Oh, so you haven't been on /a/ that long. This explains everything.

I like how this isn't even a response to anything I said.
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>>133551329
You know you're replying to b8, right?
>>
>muh impractical/inaccurate swords
You do realize Archer can alter the form of projected weapons right?
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>>133551319
It looks hilarious.

>>133551356
I don't think it's bait when there are very few people who thought the big swords were in any way not stupid.
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>>133551329
>but when similar sized ones are used later
Now I'm 100% sure you're baiting me.

>Archer was annoyed,
He was annoyed in the VN too, but he didn't really want to kill Shirou. Furthermore, you ignored the point about regular swords, since firing gigantic swords is completely counter productive to killing Shirou.
Stop being retarded, friendo.

>I like how this isn't even a response to anything I said.
But it is. It was mocked for the size and usage, sticking out of the back was something minor.
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>>133551390
You added an incorrect "not" in there

You might want to get rid of it to be correct
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>>133551409
>le bait
>retarded, friendo

You can try harder than this, NeoGAF guy.
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>>133551409
>Now I'm 100% sure you're baiting me.

How? Those swords are about as long as the ones he uses in 21, it's just the ones in 21 were thicker.

>He was annoyed in the VN too, but he didn't really want to kill Shirou

He wanted to destroy Shirou's psyche, and then kill him, but killing him was always firmly on the table. In this scene, he was frustrated that Shirou wasn't backing down, and wanted to hurt him even more.

>firing gigantic swords is completely counter productive to killing Shirou

Shirou was deflect regular swords, so Archer threw bigger ones. It's not rocket science.

>But it is. It was mocked for the size and usage, sticking out of the back was something minor.

But it just hanging in the guy's back is the only reason to mock it. I mean there's nothing really wrong about it other than it sticking in his back.
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anons seriously lost the faith in UFO after a fantastic movie series like knk, a great masterpiece like zero and incredibles openings ?
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BIG SWORDS WEREN'T A MISTAKE
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>>133551566
FZ was shitty tho.
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>>133551566
People are just unhappy about the director's decisions on the show and can't move on from that.
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>>133551566
At this point I'm just going to wait and see how HF turns out.
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>>133551566
Around here, what discussion doesn't turn to shit after a show finishes airing?
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>>133551566
Man I loved UBW, the problem is some people just had some outright absurd expectations, and there was no way they could please everyone.

This isn't a manga adaptation, where you have basically every scene mapped out, and it's just animating what's in between.
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>>133551754
THEY
COMPLETELY
FUCKING
RUINED
THE
STORY
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>>133551785
Nah.
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>>133551785
found the autistic
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>>133551754
I was more of a "Hey, this is kind of cool how they are redoing UBW" and less of a "Holy shit guys unlimited budget works coolest thing ever holy shit guys omg" person that seemed to be all over every anime site I could find.
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They turned a noble multidimensional character like Gil into a one-dimension cartoon villain.

They also wanked Shirou too hard, allowing him to fly in the air in UBW. They should have limited his superpowers to Projection.

They transformed Saber from King Arthur in Fate Zero to Caster's sex toy and then sidelined her for the rest of the show.
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>>133552483
>not noticing this is what ubw actually looks like
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>>133552483
Erm
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>>133551619
>People are just nitpicking about the director's decisions on the show and can't move on from that.
FTFY
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How many of these faggots have only seen FZ and not read anything?
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>>133552774
Does reading count as reading images posted on /a/?
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>>133552774
I doubt anyone here is as cool as us, snarf snarf.

>not reading the zero novels
>not reading every and all material books and interviews with the creators
>not carefully examining each and every word to develop a sound and rich understanding of the creator's vision
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>>133552841
Puppy Power!
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>>133552819
hmm


no
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>>133546142
you were more impressed with Prisma
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>>133553093
Man I didn't like Herz. They added filler when it wasn't needed. There were still chapters they could have animated that they just chose not to.
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>>133546142
No. To be a good adaptation it has to be either as good, or better than the source material.
Spoiler: It's not.
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>>133553335
There was stuff I thought the anime improved upon.
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>>133553293
And the Gil fight was ass
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>>133552483
>>>/v/
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>>133553293

SIlver Link seriously fucked up Herz in the later episodes. Kid Gil vs. Ilya was so underwhelming.
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>>133553488
Maybe since it was a fucked up season they gave it to their B team
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>>133552483
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>>133551585
>Liking huge swords
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Would you insert?
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>>133553707
I bet Rin likes huge swords.
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>>133553776
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>>133553737
Might as well. Everyone else has had a turn in Rin's vagina. :')
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>>133553852

Especially those old men
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