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>Decent S1
>God-tier S2
>God awful S3
>Shit S4

What the hell happened? S2 was great and had a fantastic finale until bimbo elf showed up. Then the series nose dived into harem shit.
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>I want to live
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>>133392291
>s1: shit
>s2: shit
>s3: shit
>s4: i wanna live!
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>>133392356
the sole reason most people didn't drop this show, myself included
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>>133392291
>S4
>bad
Nigga what> S4 was almost to the quality of S1 and S2. S3 is the only really shitty season.
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>>133392497
S4 was full of harem shit and maid garbage.
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I've only watched the first season and people told me mixed things about the rest of the show. Also apparently the author died and no conclusion ever. Sorta killed my enthusiasm despite really liking S1.
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>>133392356
I don't know why I entered this thread.
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>>133392291
It's too bad they totally fucked up the end of s2.
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>>133392541
The anime actually has a conclusion. It's the light novel that ended unresolved. While it is a happy end I didn't like the path to it and the most intersting parts are wrapped up in the 1:30 finale ED credit scene so that was frustrating as well.
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>>133392635
Guess I can start the second season then.
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>>133392356
Thanks, anon. I was starting to feel happy.
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>>133392760
You actually can. It's by far the best season. You just have to turn it off 1 minute before the episode officially ends
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The only thing ZnT was good for was being Fanfiction fuel.
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>>133392541
>the author died
Well, that sucks.
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>>133392291
I cant remember
Can you resume what happened every season?
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I want to be abused by Louise!
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>>133393002
S1: Louise and Saito slowly grow to love each other
S2: Louise and Saito marry but Saito is still a cheating horndog and Louise an abusive cunt
S3 Saito is still a cheating horndog and Louise is still an abusive cunt
S4: Same as S3
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>>133393002
S1 - Bad OP, decent ED. Mostly characters, introduction, stiff animation, in the end neat plot twist with a plane and Louise x Saito grow.

S2 - Best OP. Good ED. Character grown, better animation, better service, plot moves forward, entertaining all the way around, LouisexSaito becomes official, growth as a couple, introduction of bro tier Romanian, heart breaking sacrifice war scene and Saito dies saving the woman he loves and country. BUT HE'S ACTUALLY NOT DEAD AND A MOEBLOD ELF SAVES HIM

S3. Good OP. Good ED. Introduction of shit moe blob elf. Takes up a large majority of screen time. Shows devolves into To Love Ru harem drivel, boring as shit, LousexSaito relationship devolves to S1 levels.

S4. Same shit as S3 but they marry at the end and go back to earth (all in the credit scene mind you so we don't experience any of that) and the show ends as they walk through Saitos front door.
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>>133392291

S4 ending was fantastic though
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>>133393227
Yes, i remember that sacrifice war.
It was GOAT
Even rewatching, you can feel it
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>>133393324
sacrifice scene
>Fix'd
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>>133393306
On paper. In execution it was boring as hell. It's the ending I wanted, but the path there was so boring at the best parts all happen in a montage with no dialogue. It was disappointing as fuck.
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>>133393227
Years after watching season 2, I can still vividly remember that sacrifice scene. Still gives me chills.

Though I recall someone saying that in the LN, Saito is 'dead' for months or at least a longer period that portrayed in the anime and Louise goes full depression mode. Can someone fill me in on this or was I being rused?


Maybe I should just start finally reading the LNs
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>>133393227
So I can just jump from S2 to S4, right?
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>>133393445
No idea. I never read the LNs. I am glad the anime a wrapped up at the very least. I was so happy when F was announced, shame it was still bad though.

>>133393475
Yes. You literally won't miss anything plot wise. All that happens in S3 are more girls want Saito's D and he and Louise fight even more because of it. There's zero growth in their relationship.
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>>133393445
Louise literally attempts to kill herself by jumping of the tower because of her depression over Saito's "death".
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kirche best bottom bitch
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>>133393636
Not brown enough.
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>>133393606
Damn son, I'd kill myself too if my husbando/waifu died.

But jumping off a tower? I'd think she'd have accidentally killed herself with her void magic before resorting to suicide.
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>>133392497
S4 started on the right track, but quickly dived back down to it's roots, it's S3 roots, and dedicated a large portion of the series to nonsense. That big dumb dragon exists because they couldn't close the plot in enough time.

The LNs are a little better about plot, but it's still plagued (in my opinion) with harem nonsense. I will admit that Siesta isn't half the annoying slut she is in the anime, but I would rather she fucking go, or learn to fight or something.
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Is harem mmmm is for nerds
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>>133393765
Thank fuck somebody else feels the same way about Siesta. You felt for her and even sympathized a bit for her in S1-S2, but afterwards she became insufferable.
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was anyone in the harem any real competition for louise? I'm assuming no one had any real romantic connection to saito apart from louise, and the others were simply jumping on his dick?
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>>133393859
I liked her a little during S1 but it soon tanked when she was a cockblock in human form.
Would rather fuck her cousin anyway.
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Reminder that the LN will be finished by another author using notes left by the original author.
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>>133393756
Well, what happens is that Saito is alive, and hanging out in a forest, but since he doesn't have the runes on his hands anymore (Because he "died", he's afraid of being completely useless and stays in the forest with Elf Whatsherface

Meanwhile, everyone's talking about the war, and Louise has locked herself inside of her room, and everyone tries to cheer her up and tells her to do the summoning spell again, and if it doesn't work, then that means Saito's alive. She doesn't want to do it because she's afraid of the answer, but tries it, and the summoning circle appears.

Saito actually saw the circle, but he's now training with that one Short-haired lady knight, having been sent by the queen to find him, and decides not to go, just yet.

Louise, in despair goes to a tower and she's about to jump off, but she gets caught by Seista who tells her not to give up because she hasn't given up either. Siesta loses her grip and they fall on a fresh clay statue Guiche was making of Saito by hand.

Taking this as a sign, they go out to go find him.
The anime doesn't even try, there's a lot more story to go for.
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>>133393859
>Someone else
Literally no one likes Siesta. No fucking one likes the haremshit antics of ZnT.

No one likes Siesta, no one likes the I'll try to NTR my supposed best friend whore of a princess or the retarded tittyelf no one fucking cares about.

Even Kirche the supposed real whore and slut of the series knows she shouldn't meddle on Saito and Louise relationship.

But no, let's keep these 3 cunts jumping on Louise's man cock all the time, and on top of that let's make Saito and unfaithful cunt too because who cares if he supposedly loves Louise.

And let's also make Louise so desperate for Saito to not abandon her that she LITERALLY gives him permission to cheat on her.

ZnT relationships, "harem" dynamics and everything related to them are a fucking total disaster.
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>>133393859
Siesta's like the ultimate harem litmus test. If you think that her antics are funny, then I guess you like harems.

If you can't stand her, then you probably won't like what happens next or most of the series.
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>>133393986
Kirche was tamed by based-sensei's fire snake dick.
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>>133394022
Even for haremshit standards Siesta is a terrible character.
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>>133393958
Wow, that sounds a lot fucking better. A damn shame it was all cut out to end S2 in a very stupid note.
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Just as a quick query.
For those who have also watched Shana, do people who hate Siesta also hate Kasumi?

I know I do.
It's a shame she never got to properly kill herself.
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How bout that twist ending for the LN series?
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>>133393986
>Louise so desperate for Saito to not abandon her that she LITERALLY gives him permission to cheat on her.
sounds hot
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>>133393445
>>133393606
In the LN, Saito fought that battle like champion, in the anime he fought like a chump and died surrounded by people. In the LN he went through the army like a hurricane constantly blitzing through formations taking out officers and commanders. He finally collapsed after failing to defeat the general which is when his wounds and exhaustion finally got to him. His sword then took control of him and ran him off into the woods where he ended up getting found by the elf girl who revived him. Except since he died he didn't have his familiar status anymore. So he starts living with the elf and the kids and stuff there.

Meanwhile Louise has gone totally depressed back at the academy, never leaving her room. She gets the idea stuck in her head that Saito has to be alive and she tests it by casting the summon familiar spell again, since if her familiar is alive the spell shouldn't work. To her dismay the portal opens and she goes totally catatonic. At that point she's basically barely eating, she keeps having dreams of Saito dying and leaving her alone which makes her get the idea of killing herself which she tries to do. Siesta manages to save her but they both end up falling off the tower anyway, luckily on to the soft dirt pile / statue of Saito that Guiche was building.

The two girls together decide then that they aren't going to accept Saito's death until they see proof of it for themselves and they travel to fantasy britain to look for him.
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>>133393958
Saito didn't see the portal, he was asleep and only noticed a bright light that appeared and disappeared.
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>>133394266
Sorry, I knew I had forgotten some details, so I didn't try to continue any further than that.
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>>133393581
Stop pretending you like Tabitha, I know I'm the only person who actually likes her, and that you like MIO!
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>>133394347
But she is really cute and smart you're just selfish and Mio a shit Jun is best
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The light novels make the anime seem like a joke. The only redeeming feature of the anime is that it actually has an ending.
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>>133393937
[Citation needed]
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>>133395177
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-25/the-familiar-of-zero-light-novels-to-continue-after-author-passing/.89697

"According to MF Bunko J, he dictated the remaining plot of the series, including its ending, from his sickbed and entrusted it to the editors. "
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>>133395177
http://www.zero-tsukaima.com/editors/ if you can read moon it's on the official website for the series.
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>>133395280
>>133395324
Neat. Maybe they can shoehorn in some hyoerlewd and harass the publisher saying it was his dying wish to have louise sprout a 3 foot long black cock and peg saito as the ending
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>>133392291
The end of S2 was the first time in my life that I was legitimately mad at a chinese cartoon. How can you fuck up an ending like this by cutting 90% of the good stuff? The LN literally wrote the scenes for the anime, but JCStaff goes 'oh lol' and fucked it all up.

Maybe that's why JCStaff stopped caring for S3 and S4 and just winged it.
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>>133395280
SO what are the chances it actually gets translated? The last 2 volumes are still only partially translated
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>>133395615
High chance. There are still loyal fans left who are interested in the LN's ending in the TL community. Even detailed summaries will suffice.
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>S1 - Fantastic
>S2 - God-tier
>S3 - It was fun, Tabitha is nice, too much Drama, nice elfs I think?
>S4 - Fantastic

ZnT was fucking great and it's a fucking shame Kugyuu is forgotten nowadays
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I think a ZnT remake could have the potential to be amazing.

Its funny, back then you could safely assume anything JC Staff touched would be absolute shit. That studio ruined so many adaptations its silly.
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>>133395787
>I think a ZnT remake could have the potential to be amazing.

A remake/reboot of ZnT and SnS properly adapting all the novels, with good pace and whatnot is basically what I would fucking fund if I had the money for, but alas it's nothing but an impossible dream ;_;
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>>133392291
They deviated more and more and more from the novels.

The Zero no Tsukaima light novels are actually really good. The anime changed a disgustingly large amount of stuff.
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>>133395686
>There are still loyal fans left who are interested in the LN's ending
I know I'm one of them I just figured everyone else lost interest since its been years and its still dead on bakatsuki and no one else has taken a stab at it
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>>133394347
I like her, although I haven't watched the anime. I had to stop reading the LN after volume 15 because my heart couldn't take her suffering.
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>>133395999
>>133394347
I like Tabasa
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>>133395987
The Tl has slowly been working in it, i remember it being at like vol 15 or 16 when i finished it and now theres less than 2 volumes left
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>>133392291
Didn't the creator get cancer or something, shame on you op for shitting on a dead person's work
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Louise was made for rough animal sex.
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>>133392291
Louise was so cancerous it killed the author.
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>>133393937
No you idiot.
The novel script was already on the editorial.
They just wanted to wait the author to get better but he didn't make it.
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>>133398821
Best thing about Louise?

Throw her on the bed and she turns into a shy mess of dereness
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>>133392291
I heard the author died so I never bothered to watch it.
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Reminder that Tabitha shares the same VA with pic related.
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>>133395787
That'd be great, but I doubt it
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Really though, I do wish someone would finish the light novel translations. I mean yeah he's dead and we won't see a conclusion, but the anime showed us how the author intended to end the story, so we pretty much know what would have happened. It was only 1-2 volumes from the end. I really just would like to finish what exists, just to have some closure.
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>>133403750
Actually scratch that, I googled it and apparently they are going to complete the series based on the author's notes, according to a news article from this past June. That's encouraging.
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Next volume when
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What I think I like about this author the most, is that he isn't afraid to give the main characters some decent development. Looking back on ZnT and SnS (which I recently rewatched) I lot of character became significant in there own way despite starting out as your classic anime stereotypes. Its a real shame he passed away.
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>No OVA of Louise getting lost in the real world and indulging herself in some womanly desires
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I actually prefered Siesta when I watched this anime. Seems weird that everyone hates her so, especially since Louise is just the bad kind of tsundere. I also thought Saito clearly showed more intrest in Siesta than in Louise in season 1 but completely forgot about her in season 2 which was weird. I switched to Tabitha in later seasons though.
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>>133404133
I agree Siesta S1 was better than Louise and I feel she gets a lot of undeserved hate. Same with Yoshida from SnS.
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>>133404133
>>133404227
S1 it was fair game for every hoe but S2 with the magic flower shit bitches should have backed off. Siesta because such an annoying cock block for the rest of the series. Louise was made out to be generally unappealing and yet the maid, the most lusty school whore, and two fucking Queens where after his the only dick that was into her. Come on.
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>>133404277
Louise's BFF going after Saito definetely was going way too far and pretty pointless though quite realistic, you guys know how bitches are. I just don't get why Saito suddenly switched from dere maid to constantly tsundere Louise in between seasons. Maybe I should rewatch this.
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Who HeNTRietta here?
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>>133392291

There were 4 seasons?
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>>133404841
Louise is in Japan.
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>>133405654
Where did you get this from?
I'd been trying to get a picture of her gown forever.
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>>133405694
I have no idea.
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