Doubt it'll happen. Or at least I hope it doesn't.
>Hastings said his company is constantly thinking about how to produce more unique programming not being served by traditional production companies. Two types include anime and Bollywood-style shows
>making bollywood style films
Cant decide which is worse
That's actually great. With their budget it's be a smooth production, and with a Western influence it'll be more accessible to people, and also not as dumbed-down like it is for Japanese. This will also put it into the spotlight for Hollywood productions, and eventually save anime as we know it.
>netflix starts making anime
>it's somewhat decent
>suddenly importing top tier japanese animators who aren't held back by the filthy otakus and fujos standards and are given more freedom in their writing.
>suddenly netflix saves anime
Anime is already run into the ground, buried, cemented, and left to rot. There hasn't been a single actual good show in years, just the same rehashed stuff with maybe new designs, twists, and source materiel. Anime is suffocating, and Japan's industry and anime's consumers don't seem to care.
You sure showed me with those fallacies. If you're so opinionated, I'm sure you can come back with an actual thought-out post.
They can make it, as in fund it and then have no other involvement as far as writing and planning, or commitments other than delivering it to us. Basically, I just want them to give carte blance to anime studios and not with a "make it for western audiences" stipulation, because that gets you shit like Coyote Ragtime Show, Licensed by Royal, and Heat Guy J.
>They make more Steven Universe tier anime
>Pander to western audiences
That's just disgusting.
Are you telling me you think anime is dying AND you're not a yuasafag?
There's literally nothing wrong with this if they just faithfully adapt manga.
Well that's not likely, but since netflix has been producing shows like Daredevil, we'd probs get capeshit anime.
>More freedom in their writing
Unless Netflix fix the source the content of the anime wont change, most likely they'll be writing their own scripts which pander to filthy Americans instead of the
>filthy otakus and fujos standards
Also you sound like a neckbeard
>Yuri and Yaoi are a thing bud.
Nonbinary genders and bullying people for drawing fat people skinny incoming.
>with a Western influence it'll be more accessible to people, and also not as dumbed-down like it is for Japanese. This will also put it into the spotlight for Hollywood productions, and eventually save anime
That's some /co/-level delusion you have there
>Netflix buys original works
>double the animation
>all the questionable age fan service cut
>in English with appropriated dialogue
Hard to think of ways to convince them to go any other way with this.
Finally, Keit-Ai can become real!
>>all the questionable age fan service cut
>>in English with appropriated dialogue
Stop. That's not the anime I know and love.
Why is India so backwards in every way imaginable? There are countries in Africa that have their shit together (no pun intended) better than India does.
If you want star power, you can't just make a knockoff of things that are already famous. That'll make you seem like exactly what you are: a copycat.
You need your own identity.
Bollywood can be goddamn hilarious sometimes. Just how fucking stupid everything is, yet how everyone is serious in it. Like if you told Speilberg to direct a sequel to Schindler's List, but you gave him the script for Spaceballs, and he just rolled with it.
The west has made good anime-inspired cartoons before. Granted, the only ones that come to mind is the first Avatar series and The Boondocks but it's still possible.
>actual thought-out post.
You mean when you said thought American audiences were more sophisticated than Japanese audiences, you weren't just trolling?
I honestly don't know what to fucking say to you now. It'd be like explaining math to a cabbage.
>if you don't like everything anime and japan, you can't like anime
I hate this meme. It's such an utterly shit medium, and I know you know this to be true since people like you never actually defend it, rather just spew insults and other fallacies, but I still fail to see why you bother.
Some actually unironically posted this on /a/ and actually believes it.
Anime is a modern word for japanimation, it refers specifically to animation from japan, unless you're talking japanese in which case it refers to ALL animation, including frozen and the rugrats.
You retards do realize this can be actually a good thing right?
Awesome show such as Red Line totally bombed in Japan but made success on the West. Same thing with Space Dandy.
On the Japanese domestic market only high school romance thrives.
Before you start x23 is a clone of wolverine that died and taking up his things spider man is a good character and and falcon captain america because Steve lots his powers and gave it to him jackass
How can you pretend it isn't so when you see the level of sheer pandering the anime industry has stooped to? So many shows that are pure garbage not because of the inherent show itself, but because of its audience.
>People think they'll take over the anime industry
As long as there's a market for the anime we have today, which there clearly is, there'll continue to be produced the kind of anime we have today.
Most western focused/pandering shows barely sell in japan anyway.
>Netflix producing new western pandering "anime"
>How can you pretend it isn't so when you see the level of sheer pandering the Television industry has stooped to? So many shows that are pure garbage not because of the inherent show itself, but because of its audience.
>20 minutes into anime and chill and he gives you this look
Netflix won't "make" anime, you dolts. Netflix don't make jack shit.
They pay studios to make series. Same thing will happen with anime. They'll hire let's say Gainax or whatever to make a 10 episodes fuckawesome sakuga masturbation. That's how it works.
There's plenty of anime made today that panders to me though, i'm fine with the industry as it is, i don't need to watch every show.
Plus shit like space dandy isn't really catering to me, and that is likely the kind of junk they'll be producing.
>>not superior to japanese ones in every single way
Just wish something as good as avatar
aka anime done right
>yfw anime will now be dubbed for japanese, and subbed will be popular american voice actors, maybe even celebrity cameos
>yfw nips will have to wait for fansubs
Oh how the tables have turned
Are you proud of your self op? because this subject is old and brings retards like
this that support evil things like sopa tpp (name 40 copyright laws that tried to ruin anime.jpg) and every thing /a/ does not stand for.
if anime comes to the west anime dies because the west is so retarded that they think niggers copy things they see on tv and video games instead of blaming rap. and will blame everything that they can see wrong with anime such as highschool romance,sex lolicon murder... the list goes on and anime its self will be dulled down to nothing and everything about it we liked will be outlawed by us of the ass. there will be nothing left to call anime.
>Educate yourself about the industry.
>le all anime is le high school anime
You don't fool me, /co/.
>mfw as bad as it is korra is better than 80% of anime
With a decent budget and good writers, maybe some decent anime will be produced.
90% of the horseshit that comes out of Japan is fucking awful. It's the same bland shit over and over made by punks whose only vision for their art is making generic pretty girls in some uninspired fantasy world.
Anime produced by Netflix will almost certainly be decent.
The anime industry in japan is dead. Passionless and clinical. Modern anime is shit, and if you think otherwise, you are seriously deluded.
>more progressive anime
>less fanservice, more internet memes. fanservice was always so sexist anyways.
>fuck the high school setting, it's gonna be about getting loose in college!
>please understand the FEELINGs
>inclusive to all races/religions
>shoehorned gay/trans/futa couples in shows
Kate Bishop, Laura Kinney, and Miles Morales have been around for a while. I don't know what made Falcon become Captain America aside from all that dimension crap, Jane Foster Thor feels like editoral forcing its shit down Jason Aaron's throat, and I don't know jack shit as to why Jessica Drew is pregnant and who thought that would be a good idea.
>even celebrity cameos
Yes, because that's what made later Simpsons episodes great. The worthless celebrity cameos.
Don't like getting told here another
>Anime comes to the west
>"Otaku's" on suicide watch
I see no problem with this.
I hate to say it, as I love anime, but this is the truth. Western animation is tenfold better than anything anime, save for a few odd shows and films - it's simply everything anime but more.
Yes, /co/. Avatar was pure le anime faces Reddit/Tumblr-tier horseshit.
>Western animation is tenfold better than anything anime
Suuuure. That's why they're trying their hardest nowadays to be anime.
True. The West is pathologically diseased. Diseased to the bone, to the point of utter insanity. Everything we touch turns to shit. All our leaders hate what our countries stood for and only care about advancing their thinly veiled globalist agenda. They want to destroy all unique culture and identity.
>made anywhere outside of Japan
It's a slice of life show.
And it beefed it.
Stop being so new and a crossboarder.
They won't make it, they will just give the money for production.
Also, even if they do that the product will still be made for an eastern audience since it is the main consumer market.
tl;dr: nothing happens, again.
But we didn't get a third season, so we didn't get a good ending to what could've been a solid show.
If they weren't going to give it a proper ending they should've just kept it as an episodic show.
The ending we got was retarded and dragged down an otherwise unique show.
>What's with Netlfix and their desire to make everything nowdays?
The major content owners all consider Netflix a threat, and have been jacking up prices, restricting licenses, and promoting competitors.
Netflix's cost of content has been soaring even while the selection has gotten weaker. Their strategic response has been to start developing their own content.
Nothing could possibly go wrong, unless you consider more normies watching animes wrong.
>oversimplified conflict with a predictable happy ending with the chosen one winning over the bad guy without killing him
What is it with Americans drinking this horse splooge?
There's also more! Slice of life was the shit back in the day.
You mad or something
Netflix wants to have pies in all sorts of content.
I know they did the Eng version of Sidonia no Kishi, and are currently doing The Seven Deadly Sins as well. Not sure how big Sidonia was for them, because they never release viewership figures but I guess it must have been ok.
Even if they were to do their own stuff how would they even promote it? They can't compete with CR in terms of selection. It'll probably just be aimed at kids anyway.
We'll see how "Glitter Force" pans out
I don't hate it because it's popular though, and it's not because it's from japan. Plenty of good animation and stories from outside of japan, probably far more than from japan even ratio-wise.
Avatar just isn't one of them.
>YOU ONLY HATE IT BECAUSE IT'S POPULAR
Now this is something that really needs to die, something can be popular and shit
>Americans go for happy, solid endings that make sense for the show and are satisfactory
>Japs go for endings that try to subvert your expectations only to fail horribly and be labeled as shit
I can't tell you how many times I've thought "Wow that was a decent anime/manga, too bad the ending was such complete shit".
Hell, even when the Japs go for the typical happy ending they fuck it all up.
>more noddle animation
>less "problematic" nude scenes and alleged racism
>your hero line-up follows the Captain Planet guide to diversity of one-note characters
>everyone follows a "non-patriarchal" standards of "realistic" beauty
>everything looks like Steven Universe or Adventure Time
Better than everyone in a show has to die because of edge
All right. You seem like a responsible person. Enlighten me. Why was Avatar so shit to you?
>mfw if Korra was an anime it would probably be AOTY
anime is this low right now
Naruto is far more popular than avatar ever was and ever will be, both in and outside of japan. Does this automatically make naruto a good story and automatically make it better than avatar? because surely disliking naruto would be because of its popularity and not quality, right?
No, but you kind of stupid because if you cared about 'good' anime, then you sort of have to care about who makes it and what kind of audience they want to attract. It's a cop out to say "I just like good stuff XD"
How do you think good anime is made?
>if the japanese make a show containing colourful character designs, progressive social themes, sexual undertones, interaction with the fandom and social commentary, its considered amazing, subversive, progressive, bold, mature
>if westerners make a show containing colourful character designs, progressive social themes, sexual undertones, interaction with the fandom and social commentary, its considered tumblr cancer, degenerate, ugly, dangerous, cringy
You can't win with weebs
The Bollywood shit would be for India, anime would be for Japan. Why would they produce things nobody really wants here in the states?
Anime is not a super profitable "mainstream" market in the US. The only people who say otherwise are Toonami autists who think Space Randy was some kind of mega-hit, when in reality it tanked in Japan and people tuning in to view it on TV don't really add up to shit in the long run
Some body's tears are running
>muh heroes can't die and all villains must be defeated
And that's why western cartoons will always be viewed as only for children.
It doesn't dare challenge the norm or do anything of impact.
I don't even like Korra, you weeb
Except for my niggas Varrick and Tenzin
>if the japanese make a show containing
>progressive social themes
Except japan never does the first and very rarely bother with the latter, and when they do it's just some anti-war propaganda.
>They can't compete with CR in terms of selection.
They could easily out-compete CR, their market cap, licensing budget, and paid viewer base outstrips Crunchy by a ridiculously massive margin.
The problem is, anime is a side-show to them right now, and their viewership is not focused the way Crunchy is. So we won't see that kind of effort.
Look at what Disney done with Ghibli on Spirited Away though, and that turned out fine. Right enough though Disney did had a much lower stake of money invested in the production compared to what Netflix would have by fully funding a show.
Oh yeah, it totally was an anime then.
they animate the second season I think
Also the shittiest one
Western animation used to be great but then it died along with realism in art schools. Now all that is valued is throwing bloody tampons against walls and literally shitting paint on canvases, literally, using their assholes.
Just inject cash on Dreaming Machine so Kon can rest peace. Come on, Netflix. That's probably the only good thing that could come out of this.
His stuff always had a public on the west and this one in particular looked western friendly enough.
The episode with the first avatar backstory was cool but the rest was awful. That final battle with giant Korra and Tenzins daughter being a deus ex machina was painful to watch.
Numerous shows over the past few years have been centered around subversive themes like homosexuality, or incest, or subverting gender roles. Some shows touch on prejudice and bigotry as well. That's part of the reason why we like anime.
But on this site, westerners are put under the microscope more.
>Netflix CEO Reed Hastings doesn't think there's enough great television, even with the staggering 400 scripted TV series slated for 2016
it doesn't seem like a quick cash grab to me. people like this do not truly understand the whole weeb scene, but they understand stuff like avatar the last airbender, and if they can produce stuff like that on a more mature level then I don't see the harm.
not like they'll be trying to make harems and definitely no loli. if tumblr weebs and regular people enjoy it enough then we could see some joint work (like the last airbender, or that one anime halo series) and you all can see your favorite animators make animation that isn't perverted trash that we only watch because we are horny and lonely
>Numerous shows over the past few years have been centered around subversive themes like homosexuality, or incest, or subverting gender roles
What the fuck are you talking about?
It would be a tough situation anyway. Unless they just paid a bunch of Japanese people to do it they would most likely be unable to get through to the Japanese market on their own, and that's assuming the shit they make would be specifically made for that foreign market.
Over here they might fair slightly better by making some kind of lame Dragonball or Bleach like battle-shonen
>Netflix makes anime geared towards western audiences
>Shows don't appeal to /a/nons, but the tumblr population of /co/ and anime hating bigots on other boards eat it up
>These unsavory types migrate to /a/ in droves, refuses to adopt board culture, and spam the board with their shit
>Tell them to fuck off to /co/
>'We're anime too! We have every right to be here!'
>Even more dumb threads like 'why doesn't Japan make more shows like this' or 'finally mature anime that tackles mature topics for my mature self'
>The quality of /a/ gets even worse
I can see it already.
They are, or more specifically they're doing Smile divided into two 20 episode seasons under the title of "Glitter Force" which is also supposed to have a "new score" and "CGI music videos" on top of what I can only imagine to be a crappy dub
Kon had incredibly detailed storyboards and notes, I'm sure a talented director would be able to pick up from where they stopped. Just use part of the cash to get someone extremely capable.
It will never be he same, but taking a good shot at it is better than let it untouched forever. It was his desire to have it released eventually.
>white people are all keks
>white people ruin everything they touch
>white art is just shitting on canvases
>whites are effeminate
You know, assuming that most of you are white, it's impressive how you manage to hold some pretty ignorant stereotypes about your own race.
What I like avatar my favorite show
>A proper example of Western-influenced anime would be Cowboy Bebop, in which almost every episode is a parody of a different Western film/genre of films.
I knew /v/ was behind this thread.
Great, more shitty full 3D CGI anime about capeshit that will never break the Yamakan Fractale's line.
And since there's a new capeshit movies every 3 months, it fits perfectly with the season's schedule.
Deadpool the animation for Winter 2016
Batman vs Superman the animation for Spring 2016
Captain America the animation for Summer 2016
Dr Strange the animation for Fall 2016
It's not true for all whites and it is not about race, it is about culture.
If you can't see how the West has been subverted by commie bastards into self hatred and destruction I don't know what to tell you.
We are importing muslim shitskins that want to skin us alive by the millions, the police allow those shitskins to rape our daughters by the thousands and all the while we are told to worship faggots and trannies and than women are better than us because they are equal now. If you don't celebrate this downfall and insanity as progress, then you are a bigot.
The west is intellectually broken and in complete fucking suicide mode.
God damn it /co/
why cant you just die
maybe if we are lucky hiro will get drunk and delete /co/.
How dark can cartoons possibly get without having backlash in this day and age? Obviously any sex or rape is off the table.
Could they fund a LWA series?
Surprised the number of people dogpiling this guy because he is 100% correct. The best animes are nowhere close to the best western TV programming in quality, because anime is made for children. With western influence anime can only improve because the pressure will be on for adult characters and themes and not high school students and romcom.
Even in that sense, anime is more progressive. I remember watching an episode of Dirty Pair that was about protecting trans people, and that was 30 years ago. Sailor Moon had tons of gay and trans characters too.
>The best animes are nowhere close to the best western TV programming in quality, because anime is made for children
You can't be serious, right? Only /co/cksuckers would think like this? No one in /a/ would believe this shit, right?
But that comes from the same place as lolicon and other shit comes from. They treat it as a general open-mindedness for sexual perversion instead of some LGBT ideology activism.
Not sure what I expected. They're probably trying to recover from the failure that was trying to convince people Digimon was still relevant in the US.
Now they're trying to cash in on the recent magical girl wave? Ok Haim, sure.
I would say Game of Thrones explores incest much more then any anime I have seen. I has a girl born of incest tell her dad that it is okay to love her mom/sister and that she understands.
S2 Netflix exclusive.
>Hollywood scriptwriters desperately looking for something new
>anime and Bollywood
>>white people are all keks
That was a nigger or a kekold posting that.
>>white people ruin everything they touch
Currently, yes. Diversity, faggot worship and insane feminsim has infiltrated just about every fibre of Western culture. It's completely degenerate to the point that people either hate their own culture because they are either indoctrinated by the far left to do so or they are so sick of seeing exactly that that they hate their own culture for falling so low. either way, both types hate their culture. Divide and conquer par excellence. One step further in the globalist agenda. Don't think Asia is safe and don't think they don't have their sights set on you too.
>>white art is just shitting on canvases
Western art schools are nothing but a shadow of their former self. Classic and skillful illustration is all but dead. You're better off self taught than going to one of those liberal hellholes that dare call themselves art schools.
>>whites are effeminate
Nobody even said that, sure you aren't projecting there, ladyboy?
It would make sense if they looked into successful Kickstarter projects and financed more of it, but I think a new movie is the best Trigger could do at the moment. They are a small studio in order to make LWA a full show without quality drop Netflix would have to give them enough money to hire a shitload of temporary animators.
Reminder that any Netflix produced anime will likely be CG like Knights of Sidonia, since it's much more appealing to mainstream western audiences than 2D.
Yeah, plot development that lead to nowhere or just for the sake of prolonging the show.
>implying shit cater to otaku don't have plot development
>implying sexualizing underage drawing is not the best thing ever
Money =/= quality.
Studios get more money =/= more quality shows being produced.
samefag and also a faggot.
> not liking romcoms
> thinks the sex in romcoms is for kids
top fucking kek.
It's not even about the quality, it's about the anime is for children shit, which is the exact opposite of how the demographics in anime work. Most anime aims at teenagers or older. However, western cartoons ARE definitely mostly aimed at children, although they have sometimes attract adult viewership
No more armpits.
could never completely hate RWBYg, they're a good bunch. but fucking caucs..when they reveal themselves with the trash they talk about, it fucking hurts. do americans or euros not interact with east asians? other than that, they're like your average person.
thanks for reading my blog. i'll go to tumblr reluctantly if you tell me.
Wait, you actually think anime isn't extremely shallow and caters pretty much exclusively to people who are confused by themes and character relationships in actual stories? I'm not going to name a specific series because I know the moment I do it will be endless ">series name" with smug anime faces but you can pick your favorite HBO series and it will be better than any anime produced.
What are the most revered animes in the west? The ones that have adult themes and good characterization. Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop. What are the ones that make anime fans look like fat neckbeard no life losers? Take your pick of anything produced after 2005
No, it's not. Lesbian porn isn't made with any thought of open mindedness, It's made to cater to people with a certain fetish and make a profit. The same could be said for anime.
I remember being slightly drunk and jerking it to that Bleach episode. That was a good night
Sometimes Suttle this is good to have it doesn't need to be in your face
>HBO is making an active push back into children's programming, starting with acquiring the rights to Sesame Street
>HBO is not what it used to be.
I'll say. What a dumb idea. HBO hasn't been on their game in a while. I think the only shows I remember really enjoying were Curb, The Wire, and Bored to Death
>So much better than any anime, I 've ever seen
To be fair that is because 99% of anime is garbage fetish pandering. The fact that there hasn't been an anime in the past 5 years that is as good as True Blood is mostly an indictment of the quality of anime and not a compliment to True Blood
Do you think western movie and TV executives encourage diversity out of the goodness of their hearts? No, they're just trying to make a profit and pander to a certain audience. It's no different than anime.
The worst part about this, is that Netflix will undoubtedly use the Western system of writing where a series script is extended indefinitely for years on end, season after season, until dropping ratings from people getting tired of their bullshit forces them to end the series.
I mean how many season 2s have we requested and wanted, and had the entire series transforming to shit? In the West, Lost and How I Met Your Mother continued on way longer than they narrativly speaking had any right to.
No anon you're the retards
>Netflix pays the japanese to make anime
>Netflix also decides what plot it'll have and how it'll be handled
I'm surely going to enjoy the shit bang theory: animated edition
Haha no. The animation age ghetto is purely a Western phenomenon. Adultswim has made considerable progress towards breaking that vicious cycle, but it's going to take around 20 years for a full cultural transition. Meanwhile in Japan, animation is largely age neutral and has been for the last 70 years.
EVEN THEN, bringing Western creation to anime will destroy everything that makes it valuable because anime's greatest feature is that it is (comparatively) pulp media. The West has cookie cutter show after cookie cutter show because hollywood believes, maybe correctly, that they have found the exact set of things that people want to watch. They will fund anything in that category and never approve anything outside it.
The Japs regularly comically fail to predict what their audience wants, and possible don't even care. Budget for use with good design work, good cast, good animation quality is assigned essentially at random to scripts that sure, may hew fairly close to some common genre threads, but have FAR more freedom in their written content than any modern western production can aspire to.
As soon as the West starts 'creating' anime, it has set hooks into the industry, and unlike the current heavily deregulated eastern industry, they will try and steer and control it. They will eliminate things that "they don't like". Marginal, dissenting viewpoints which sure, usually don't, but CAN arise in the current industry will be suppressed and destroyed.
We'll end up with the same vapid standard we see in the West right now. You say anime is shit right now and has just been rehashing the same shit over and over, but there have always been a small handful of inventive shows over the last few years. That small blessing will no longer exist.