Raildex

He's the happiest person ever

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>>133060401
The real question is Is Accel happy?

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He's happy as long as he's with his pocket waifu.

>>133060401
Touma is only happy when he protects a bitch.

>>133060401
He fights for you and so you can make your own life choices without someone else telling you what to do with your life.

Touma is the John Cena of anime

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>>133060401
>manga
>15 volumes in (11 translated)
>no PTSD yet

touma needs to pop his cherry with some edgelord battlefield "we gonna die sex" already

Is his power still limited to "breaks magic and super science"?

Can't someone just shoot him?

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>>133060401
the real question is
what would've happened if Academy city didn't intervene???
I'm hyped as fuck for the next couple LN volumes

>>133060401
Touma never had a reason. He just fights and protects because of plot. That is mainly why he is a bad character.

Alright before this turns to waifu crap, how long until the prologue of NT14?

>>133062165
People say he has precog to help in fist fights, but it's disputed.

>>133061322
Reminder that Worst and LO's feelings for Accel are fake.

>>133062212

This.

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>>133062212
they actually adress his reasons (or lack thereof) in the LNs, and it weights quite heavely on him when he realizes.

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>>133060401

He's definitely broken. But he's happy.

>>133062212
You mean why he's an amusing character.
Like when Styil told him to go home because he had nothing to do with anything anymore and on his way home he decided to come back to punch a nun in the face.

>>133062165

People already shot him. It didn't work.

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>>133060401
I just want him to be happy with his waifu in Valhalla.

>>133062212

You seemed to have misspelled "good" there buddy

After Touma loses his memories he just went with the flow and became what he did.
Now he became a fighter for justice because that's all he's known. He's not even a real person anymore.

>>133062357
>Author making excuses for a major flaw to his main protagonist
Bad. This is why Accelerator and Shiage who have their reasons and motivate for the things they do or have to do are better protagonists.

>>133062451
You can find him amusing or just fun because of the memes that comes his way, but he's still a terrible character and anyone who values characters worth some level of depth and merit wouldn't be blind to his flaw.

Touma thread?

Needs more Touma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ZqgNJ2xNI

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>>133062622
[ ] Punch Othinus
[x] Hug Othinus

>>133062655
Funny, I think Touma is a better protagonist than the other 3 in part because he's doing shit just because he wants to.

>>133062165
He's been shot a few times. USA special forces as fucked him up but since Raildex USA is the USA that the real USA says it is but isn't, El Presidente let him go since Touma told him off about how he wasn't being American.

>>133062704
Needs more Accelolita.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXhYfrG2c6Q

>>133062083
Hot car sex with a Goddess!

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>>133062594
>wakes up with no memories and 100 bitches after his dick
>goes to fight in WWIII

good job m8

So do touma and accel cross paths again at some point? And is there any news for a season 3?

I've only watched the anime but I'm planning on picking up the LN where it left off, or maybe a bit before that.

>>133065296
S3 never unfortunatelly because it means no NT animation.

>>133065296
Index 3 never.

Accelerator and Touma fight two more times after the anime. They bros now though. Accelerator has even been to his apartment.

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>>133065296
This animated never.

>>133066993
NT10 could have been Goat if he just killed othinus then and there and just flew away Tbh

>>133066993
I liked their WW3 fight better.

>>133066993
>Literally just gave him the win and was over in like 2 mins
>Actually eager to see this animated

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>>133067248
>killed othinus
Killing the goddess of kindness?sakrileg

>>133062514
Stiyl looks so weird with a smile on his face.

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>>133060401
his dead inside jim

>>133066993
Who would even want to see Accel throwing off the fight?
Even his fight with Biagio was more intense than that.

Fuck, I'm still mad for so much wanted potential thrown away on NT10.

Kamachi will never surpass WWIII.

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>>133062212
>Touma never had a reason. He just fights and protects because of plot.
>never had a reason
but he have one

>>133068841
>Kamachi will never surpass WWIII

You mean battle royale where characters actually died, right?

>>133062212
Touma has no goalls on life nor aspirations if people call on Shiro for being empty, so is Touma for not having dreams on his own.

>>133069021
That was a good stand alone volume like NT9 was.

I meant WW3 as story arc.

>>133062514
At least IT stopper for now, eh?

>>133062212
taking away touma's engraved reason for living of saving people makes him suicidal

>>133060401
He's deader than dead inside mate

>>133069202
Most of us are too and yoi don't see us punching nuns.

>>133060401
im even surprise why he havent killed himself yet

>>133069021
>where characters died in the same volume theyr were introduced
Fixed.

so preview pages when?

>>133062655
>This is why Accelerator and Shiage who have their reasons
You're an idiot, their reasons are exactly the same as Touma's. That is to protect someone/people. If you want complicated, deep characters, don't bother with stories that are aimed at teenagers and children.

>>133069769
Still more than whatever happened in this so called World War.

>>133070944
Not that anon but unlike Touma those two had set goals while Touma just stays there waiting claiming to be normal waiting for something to happen.

>>133071196
What are you even talking about? He's a 16 year old boy. When shit isn't going down, he's supposed to be in school. What exactly do you want him to do?

>>133070944
>That is to protect someone/people.
Doing the same thing != having the same motivation and reasons. Those two have a drive that is beyond the action of protecting/saving the people they care about when danger comes their way. Touma is more of of a blank state so people can self-insert themselves as.

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I found index s1 to be really average, yet this past week I found myself marathoning everything from railgun to the end of index 2.

Now I feel empty. Are the LN's really good or what? I'm not sure I want to start from the beginning but I just want more of this shit.

>>133071299
>implying the other 2 aren't the same age

>>133071462
I wouldn't even want to self insert as Touma for that very reason.

Self inserting goes in hand with wish fullfilment which Touma offers nothing about.

>>133071477
Only read from volume 14 of the LN's up until 22 and then pretend the series got axed and ended there.

>>133071462
Bullshit, name one motivation that cause either accelerator or Shiage to act that isn't to protect someone. The only thing I can think of Shiage in his deliquent days.

>>133071503
And what are their set goals then? Hanging out with loli/gf?

>>133071646
>And what are their set goals then? Hanging out with loli/gf?
not the one you talking with but even that counts and getting to be a pro about mechanics in Hamazura's case. Can't remember Accel besides him wanting some peace.

Touma has just muh normal school life.

>>133071898
>muh normal school life
So learning things and hanging out with friends. Exactly the same as Shiage and Accelerator.

>>133072012
Isn't the same.

>>133072012
Touma don't stack P's Senpai.

He's a little man.

>>133061322
Why wouldn't he be? He's an idol now with thousands of underaged fans. He's living the dream.

>>133072012
That would be good if at least Touma's school life was as interesting as it was on OT.

Now with the little time it has all they do is silly antics.

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>>133072080
Of'course it isn't, anon.

New male protagonist when?

Current ones are getting stale.

>>133071646
Accelerator has his whole redemption arc and his objective to do something about the dark side of AC. Shiage is a guy who lives to get by by means of a skill-out, and has a past and connection with others of his own kind.

>>133072336
>Accelerator has his whole redemption arc
By protecting people.

>objective to do something about the dark side of AC
To protect his loli.

>Shiage is a guy who lives to get by by means of a skill-out
This part of the sentence makes no sense. He's no longer part of skill-out.

>has a past and connection
What does that have to do with goals and motivations? Touma has connections with the british royal fucking family.

spoilers when?

>>133062212
He's empty as fuck m8. Before his amnesia he was a good kid with bad luck that just liked helping people. Index was the first time he saw something really bad happen in his life and since he loved her he wanted to save her.

Then amnesia happenned, he doesn't know who he is and can only assume from what happenned before to build his identity, he just guessed that he was always the kind of people that saves others and tells them they aren't living correctly, basically he's stuck pursuing an ideal person he never was. He doesn't even develop feelings for Index, Misaka etc and just considers them people he'll save. He's broken as a human being.

>>133072524
>By protecting people.
>To protect his loli.
You're oversimplifying the fact Accelerator has a clear goal and objective that came into existence because he developed as a character. Also, the manner in which he "protects" is linearly consistent with his personality.

>He's no longer part of skill-out.
That doesn't void his past that was the foundation that built his current character. Circumstance of wanting to protect the girl he likes and helped save ITEM was what brought change in him.

>What does that have to do with goals and motivations?
That's to show that he has traits that is outside of being an empty canvas that goes with the flow and jumps into muh protecting for an aimless purpose. NT1 does good job to flesh out Shiage, and one way it does that is to show the life-style he used to have and still do, being friends and connections from his life as a Skill-Out

>>133072930
>Index was the first time he saw something really bad happen in his life
He had to save Misaki before amnesia, that was actually pretty fucked up. Incindentally these 2 case are the only ones where things happened(ie permanent damage) that might have made him more cautious and act a little more self-preserving. Too bad he can't remember them.

Also as far as I remember touma knew nothing about his pre amnesia self so him wanting to protect people was something his past self had no bearing on. It's also stupid to say he doesn't develop feelings for people when he obviously does. Unless you were talking about romantic feelings.

>>133061322
He's super cripple, the hell do you think?

>>133073254
to be fair, since childhood, touma's life was pretty bad, getting called bad luck, having stones throne at and almost being stab by some nutjob

and he spend almost a life of this

and in the 6 months that happen, you could say it suck for him so bad.

IB-chan loves giving him suffering.

>>133073183
>You're oversimplifying the fact Accelerator has a clear goal and objective that came into existence because he developed as a character
How his goal came about was not what was being discussed, it was his actual goal. Which as pointed out is the same as touma's. This is also the reason why they can team up in the later novels. You might think Accelerator is a more intresting character because of his guilt but again that isn't what was being discussed and it's also subjective since Touma has his own shit and internal conflict to deal with(memory loss, the whole Othinus arc).

>That doesn't void his past that was the foundation that built his current character
Before he met sleepy bigtits he was unhappy, now that she makes him happy he wants to protect her. His past as a skillout has no bearing on his goals. It might be important in how he does things but not in why.

The last bit is just gibberish. Shiage having a different past than Touma doesn't make Touma an empty canvas. especially since I already told you touma has made his own friends and connections.
>jumps into muh protecting for an aimless purpose
All three characters do this. It's not aimless for them because it makes them happy in some way. This is really basic stuff.

>>133073254
He saved Misaka after the amnesia m8. He was only attacked by her pre amnesia and didnt even know her.

Anyway the guy just assumes what he did with Index is what he did all the time pre amnesia.

>>133074129
>Misaka
You're an anime-only fag aren't you.

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Its pretty easy to know if someone has read the novels or not by their opinion of Touma.
Mostly when they say he is a bland character.

>>133062876

>Oriana x Touma x Kuroko ending
>erotic threesomes all day erry day married to each other
>Misaka and Index are bound and gagged, forced to be pets with buttplugs for tails and taken on walks outside at night

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>>133060401
I don't know about Touma, but this guy fight for for the girl in the alternate universe.

A boy falls in love with a girl.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.

Now with its own OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NShEKYoPXw
And ED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIX9aoN7g4o

>>133074129
Don't be a secondary.
You're taking into account the retcon from Railgun's graviton incident did you?

Because that aside what Touma did the very first time was try to "save" her when she didn't need help.

Then when he realized who he was ended saving foolish thugs from her.

>>133074352
>resident keit-aifag pops his head in to post his copypasta.jpg

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>>133074333
my opinion of touma only change after nt9 to be honest. i feel a little bad for the dude now.

>>133074690
I felt bad for Touma at NT9.

But afterwards it left me a

"something is off" feeling, NT12 and NT13 didn't help much.

>>133074129
>>133074452
Hey, you're both secondaries. He said Misaki, not Misaka.

>>133074690
demon lord touma fucking when?

>>133074763
You're missing the point about pre amnesia Touma.

Even Misaki is an added extra.

>>133075290
But those guys were thinking about Touma's run ins with Misaka pre-memory loss when the first guy was initially talking about Touma's past with Misaki. Gotta correct those fucking secondaries.

>>133075290
What is the point about pre amnesia touma? He's pretty much the same as post amnesia Touma. Just more confident. The Misaki novel showed that.

>>133075843
>The Misaki novel showed that.
I wouldn't count on that.

>>133076035
It showed that Touma actively tried to save people before his amnesia. He tried to save Misaki, Misaka, index and suicide girl pre-amnesia and posibly also seria. That's what one calls a patern. The Misaki novel also heavily implies this was normal behavior for him.

>>133074043
I think you need to read the original argument again. Anon said Touma is a blank slate so people can self-insert because Touma doesn't have any real motivation/reason to do what he does. Touma is your supposed normal high school boy that gets mixed up in science vs war conflict, and imposes himself to help or save people for no real motivation/reason. He's a character who rides the plot vehicle out of convenience.
>Touma has his own shit and internal conflict to deal with(memory loss, the whole Othinus arc).
Literally what? Touma's memory loss is something that gets merely touched upon a couple of times and is ultimately never a problem for 99.5%% of the entire story. Touma's infinite hell thing is recent, but that doesn't explain his motivations/reasons at all. That particular experience only made him a bit more jaded and gives him a case of pstd when it comes to Magic Gods.

>His past as a skillout has no bearing on his goals.
Wrong. It is a factor. Shiage doesn't just have only one goal, he had another. What do you think he was fighting for when he was in Skill-Outs? For mostly his own interesting, mainly being self-preservation. Shiage being friends with Ritoku is another factor that helped shaped Shiage into someone who protects.

Touma is an empty canvas because he doesn't have a foundation for his single-track motivation of protecting/saving whoever he wants to save above any reasons. He just does because we're told that that's how he is. Accelerator and Shiage are not like that, instead they had to progressed from an anti-heroes with their own personality and motivations to a person who protects the people they care about.

>All three characters do this.
Not really. See ahove.

>>133076232
His saving complex aside m8, his personality, not just saving on itself.

His attitude pretty much showed that he didn't save people the way he wanted, was pessimistic and snarky about various things.
Those flaws were what make him unique. Now he doesn't has that beside the act of saving.

>>133076470
You're just repeating the same bullshit and ignoring half of what I say so I'm done with this now.

>>133076669
>was pessimistic and snarky about various things
That's literally post-amnesia Touma.

>>133060401
i dont know, he seems more of reckless, jaded and lifeless , and importanly the lack of fucks he gives now are getting low.

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Index III when?

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>>133077094
NT9 movie when?

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The sisters need more screen time.

>>133077066
Isn't m8.

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Purple is my way of life,

Were there ever any good ideas for #6's ability?

What are the requirements for a power to be level five anyway?

Where's my latest chapter of Railgun? Any scans yet?

>>133078614
I think the levels are ranked by magnitude. In my headcanon, level 4s are seen as top specialist in their field whereas 5s are like polytheistic elemental deities.

>>133078980
Next month

>>133079284
But I haven't seen the chapter where Frenda meets Saten yet

>>133079255
That can't be quite right though since Awaki was supposed to be level 5 if it weren't for her trauma supposedly.

Can Touma train his imagine breaker to make him level 5 or some shit?

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>>133078594
All those Soba Doujins are almost exactly the same, at least they all progress and follow the positions the same way.

>>133079453
Why not? Awaki was going to reach level 5 but she didn't. She's level 4. If she were level 5 then she'd likely be able to teleport herself as much as she wanted without being debilitated. Maybe she could teleport an entire city block. Both Awaki and Kuroko are level 4 teleporters but they can still have different strengths and weaknesses.

>>133079982
No. All he can do is use it or turn it off completely(letting out the dragons).

>>133080341
>Maybe she could teleport an entire city block
You misunderstand, Awaki as she is now, if she wasn't strained by the idea of not teleporting herself would be level 5. I'm simply pointing out this conflicts with your idea of level 4s being experts in their field, because that's what Awaki is, but she's level 5 material and isn't a quasi deity or whatever shit it was you had in mind.

Occasional reminder that espers will lose their abilities as they become older.

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>>133060401
I find that he's most happy when he's with his friends. Delta Force novel when?

>>133080591
Occasional reminder that this isn't Medaka Box

>>133080591
That hasn't been confirmed. They simply said that adults can't become espers. I think if Mugino tried to become an esper at the present time then it would have failed.

Which is more broken as human between Touma and Shirou of Fate?

>>133081510
Fate Shirou is hardly broken at all, HF Shirou is around where Touma is right now I'd say

>>133062779
How wet was she at the moment?

>>133081531
Sorry, not Fate route but through entire Fate series.
BTW,Touma is often called egoist, Do you know why?

>>133081704
Well she was sitting in the snow with no pants or anything, so at least mildly

>>133081719
Probably because he's self admitted that he doesn't believe half the moral shit coming out of his mouth and he's just saving people because he feels like saving them, regardless of if it's right or wrong.

I don't hear him called an egoist much though.

BTW, Have you already read Kinsho New Testament vol13?
Almost all Magic gods were extremely nerfed.
I can taste that wanker weeps in VS forum all over the internet,lol.

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Is there anyone who even likes index at this point?
Do any of the backwards nips ship her with Touma anymore?

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>>133069482
It's not like he hasn't tried

>>133081782
Yeah.
He does what he does because he want to feel good and think that he before Amnesia will do it.
He doesn't do heroic thing from strong moral code or innocent good will.
So He is often called as if egoist or such.

>>133072930
This is what steered me away from the series. I was getting excited thinking I had in my hands a dramatic romance between him and Index while trying to get her to not be dead. Then it just turned into another waifu simulator.

>>133062876
>drills
>cowtits
He best be careful. I hope IB can negate AIDS.

>>133067965
Would stealing and burning that hat count as bullying?

>>133082044
>Burning the hat
Over the line

>>133081910
I always forget the /a/ theads for raildex shit always has the largest about of ESL, its fucking annoying and why does it have to be so

>>133082003
>Then it just turned into another waifu simulator
More like how much we can make the protag suffer simulator

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>>133082003
I could see what you would like from it, I would too, but I'm quite fond of how things have turned for Touma as a character in NT. Granted, I grow fond of characters who go through hell and just barely make it out the other side. Seeing people start fighting over who gets to be saved by him was a fun turn on the whole hero thing as well.

>>133081910
BTW, I can't understand that why Magic gods are treated as multiversal in many VS forum despite that official acknowledged that there is only a universe in Kinshoverse

>>133080478
>she's level 5 material and isn't a quasi deity or whatever shit it was you had in mind.
He was only describing what they are seen or represented as. Awaki could have had the magnitude to be a level 5, and thus be seen as an unstoppable force. But on account of her trauma she remained a level 4, an expert in her field and the top of her game. Nothing more.

>>133082115
>largest about of ESL
>and why does it have to be so
You're not one to talk anon

>>133082115
Well if we're looking at his character yeah. But his way of being is just another set up for bringing in the waifus. Same shit happened in sao. I get all excited for a couple that fights together and overcomes deathly situations, then it all turns to shit, then we bring in the waifus. I'd like for stories to not get my hopes up to then crush them.

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>>133081874
Best girl for being the one to heal him.

Who will be Kamijou's wife? Index?Misaka?

>>133082284
Mugino.

>>133082284
Fremea, hopefully.

>>133082209
You're still not getting it anon, Awaki doesn't need to be any stronger than she is right now to be a level 5, she only needs to stop having such big aversions to teleporting herself and she would be. She is the expert at teleporting but also level 5 material, and not in the sense of how Rikou is potential level 5 material but that she was already at that level but fell off of it because of her accident.

Please don't ignore me yet again and come back with the same shit about how she would have to be stronger to be a level 5 when it's been said she doesn't.

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>>133082330
>Stealing from Hamazura's harem.

I mean he already has Takitsubo, but would he allow it? I think I could imagine it since he is kind of a bro.

>>133061322
No, not until we win the cup.

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>>133082284
The girl who understands him the best

>>133082417
>even Thor is more attractive than a one-eyed slut

>>133082340
>doesn't need to be any stronger than she is right now to be a level 5, she only needs to stop having such big aversions to teleporting herself
Is that even how the system works? I'm pretty sure espers are rated on their power, the strength of their AIM diffusion field and personal reality. If she's powerful enough to be a level 5 then she would be, whether or not she is averted to using that power.
When it's said that she's level 5 material it means that, if she was without her trauma, she would be able to develop her power to the magnitude of a level 5.

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>>133082444

>>133082257
You're focusing way too much on the waifu aspect anon. Raildex isn't about that. Yeah, it's got lots of waifus sure, but they're just characters in the story and not the story itself.
If they were, we would have seen a lot more romantic development between the girls and MC/other characters
Raildex is about powerlevels and world building. qt girls are just a bonus

>>133082456
She can't use that power because of her trauma, that's the point, she has it but can't use it, it's not like Accelerator where he can use the Sisters to use his ability sparingly, the masage whatever thing only partially helps, it doesn't allow her to perform at the level of a level 5 as she could before her trauma

He fights for LN sales

Touma has never been a particularly deep character, he's a shounen hero who fights for his friends and an impractical idealism.

This all has its roots in romanticism, but whereas the British and Americans got the fuck over that by the 19th century, the Japs are too mentally stunted to like anything else besides a hero who "never gives up" and "can beat the strongest with a punch."

>>133082587
>fights for his friends
That's wrong though

>>133082587
You wish. Americans legitimately think Blood Meridian is serious literature and Judge Holden is a good character.

>>133082587
>he's a shounen hero who fights for his friends

Touma is as selfish as it gets and fights only for himself

>and an impractical idealism.
Touma doesn't even really have a ideology at this point, he just does what he believes Touma would of done

So many secondaries think they know Touma.

Nuit when?

>>133085107
end game, if ever

>>133085107
Never, Misaka isn't going to get a magical power-up

>>133085905
>magical

>>133075156
Maybe Kamisato actually fucking kills Othinus and Touma goes full demon lord.

>>133080591
I wonder what happened to Komoe anyway.
She's like 40, what kind of fucked up-immortality experiments did they run on her.

I'm curious. I keep on seeing threads about this.
I see a lot of images of Touma and that half naked girl with a with hat, but not of Index. What happened to her?

>>133086230
Spoil me, please.

>>133086165
All characters that aren't Touma in NT have been pushed aside to give Touma more development. Othinus is staying in the spotlight at the moment, because currently she's the most important character for doing that

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>>133086165
>Index
Literally who?
It doesn't matter. All that matters is that Othi-chan is happy with her husbando

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>>133086277
here

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>>133074352

>>133086310
Touma wouldn't let his favorite pet die.
After all, what's he gonna sniff to feel like everything is fine?

>>133086287
So, what is Index actually doing?

>>133086306
I now have a lot of questions because of this image. Is the whole thing worth reading? I know it's so far ahead already.

>>133082308
>>133082398
I've always wondered if the Kami-yan Disease is strong enough to kek people.

>>133086306
Othinus' Wild Ride was amazing. Too bad it had a shitty ending, followed by infuriating NT11 and awful NT12.

>>133086445
>So, what is Index actually doing?

Nothing she is a support character now

>I now have a lot of questions because of this image. Is the whole thing worth reading? I know it's so far ahead already.

Yes its worth reading and you can just skip to NT8's epilogue and continue from there to read NT9 and NT10. As long as you understand Touma's character in OT you're fine.

>>133086737
>Nothing she is a support character now
Well, shit. Might as well change the title.

>>133080610
>barely go to school anymore
>can't play with his bros and flirt with fukiyose anymore

;_;

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>Goddess tier
Othinus end
Misaki end
Demon Lord end

>Great tier
Itsuwa end
10032 end
Birdway end
Fukiyose end
Mind of steel end

>Good tier
Himegami end
Kaori end
Dead end

>Meh tier
Index end

>Crack tier
Saten end
Kuroko end
Time loop end

>Intriguing, but highly disturbing tier
Accel end

>Shit tier
Boring open end
Mikoto end

>>133088070
>>Intriguing, but highly disturbing tier
>Accel end
THK is gay now?

>>133088326
>THK
Anon, in no way is that a THK posting style

>>133081804
Me.
She's by far the funniest character of the series, followed by Kuroko.

>>133088070
Oh my, I'm just about 100% with you on that.

>>133088070
>Demon Lord end
Successful Demon Lord or Demon Lord that gets killed by the very [people he used to protect?

>>133062212
You're the kind of scum that would let your waifu get raped... kek.

>>133084785
LN fag here, Touma still a weak faggot.

>>133090218
>accelfags still being salty their super powerful self-insert is irrelevant

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>>133090244
>Accelfags
>Implying

Real talk, Toumafags like OP make Touma look bad.

>>133087274
That was Kamachi's original idea, the title changes for each new arc and based upon whom Touma is saving in the LN. Miki said, 'no, that's a stupid idea' and made him stick with one title to build brand recognition.

>>133088070
>Forgetting about Will-tan.
Utterly disgusting.

That wind chick with that fan in misaka's school would get it desu

>>133086593
>Too bad it had a shitty ending
literally /a/'s view on any manga/anime/LN/VN ever.

>>133082544
I dont really remember if its anime only, but there was scene in which they showed her being in windowless building with Styil, so that would mean she was level 5 before?

>>133091594
>literally /a/'s view on any manga/anime/LN/VN ever.

You are wrong.

Is this series even still following a greater aim?
Like what TouMANs power even is?

What we got since Vol.1 is that its Dragons, no explanation whatsoever, ever.

>>133091752
I think dragons are bullshit, they never showed up after that even when his arm was cut off or crushed

>>133091812
>they never showed up after that even when his arm was cut off or crushed
They do, but so far only in Railgun. So far what we know is, in AC, its Dragons, outside its the Invisible thing

>>133091752
This shit will still be dragging on when one piece finally finishes.

>>133081804
Trust me, nips might not be as vocal as Mikotofags but they do ship her.
Personally, I like their ship more because there Touma is the one being possessive/jealous(reminding of vol.17-20&22) in the relationship unlike Kamikoto where it is just Mikoto being dere and Touma being passive.

>>133082284
Kamachi said in the interview that he wanted Index as wife and Misaka as friends so...

>>133091654
She's the 'guide' who allows visitors like Stiyl and Tsuchimikado in and out of the Windowless Building.

>>133090579
I disagree m8.
Even if that wasn't the point other series like Horizon despite switching in protagonism between character Horizon (character) still has the spotlight and relevance in the show, meanwhile in Raildex we have characters like Misaka being pushed for fuck sakes and do nothing relevant most of the time.

>>133092387
You mean she was, because she cant teleport herself anymore, thats also implying she was able to before and she wasnt level 5.

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Reminder that Misaka is best girl and deserves nothing but happiness.

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What kind of music does Othi-chan listen to?

>>133092588
>because she cant teleport herself anymore
False
>>133093251
Heavy metal.

>>133093151
Kuroko please go.

You know your onee-sama doesn't deserves anything if she doesn't do shit about it.

>>133090995
That's one smug Touma.

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Why don't he just get a damn job and forget all this magic shit?

>>133093593
shit tier luck mang

>>133093593
Knowing his luck magicians would wreck his workplace on his first day.

>>133093593
>gets a job on convenience store
>would magician appears
>Touma pretends be didn't see the magician
>magician buys some groceries
>OK, things look fine for Touma
>magician takes out money
>hands it over
>Touma touches hands with magician's
>sound of something breaking is heard
>magician stares at Touma
>Touma knows he should have just used his left hand
>fight starts destroying the place in the process

>>133086306
does anyone have that othinus ryuuko?

Who's the most try hard moralfag in ingun after tooma?

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>>133093841

What is the order to watch this anime?

I have seen S1 of Index, but it felt like it started in the middle of the series. Starting S2 next and maybe later Railgun unless its just filler.

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>>133093251
Classical music like the ride of the valkyries.

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It's exactly a week before NT14 comes out. I wonder if we'll get previews anytime soon.

In the meantime, posting best imouto.

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Will Touma ever remember this semen demon? She would be a great match for him.

>>133096139
I'd imagine she'll never experience a period again
Poor Touma

>>133095412
spoilers fucking when?

>>133082444
Thor is more attractive than the entire cast, though.

>>133089842
Victorious Demon Lord end version_omega.

>>133086419
Othinus is one hell of a drug

>>133088070
>Death-tan End
>not best

>>133088070
I'd just drop Index to shit-tier too, but otherwise great list.

Is it wrong to have A Simple Monitoring as my favorite Kamachi novel? It was one of the craziest rides I've ever experienced and I still haven't been able to win it.

>>133078614
The only stated requirement in the LNs was the capacity to take on a world's military and be able to hold their own. Even Misaki can manage that much. You could also say any esper who will never display the full spectrum of their ability while just living a normal student's life. Even a level 4 can easily reach their limit with just basic application of their ability.

>>133097296
The correct choice is obviously Intellivillage, but ASS is great too.

>>133097296
i wish kamachi would continue walraute though.

>>133088070
To think the day would come that I'm agreeing with THK, Swap Accel and Itsuwa and that's pretty much my list.

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>>133086287
This isn't entirely true. Mikoto has gotten way more involved in NT than she ever was in OT. Probably currently ranking as the character with the second most page time. Not a convenient truth, though, as /a/ hates her guts.

>>133098303
>Probably currently ranking as the character with the second most page time

Nah. Touma, Shiage, Accel, Birdway and Othinus have more screentime as of NT.

>>133098407
I know Othinus has basically all of NT9 and 10, but she was barely in NT before that so I'd imagine she doesn't have as much screentime as Mikoto

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>>133098407
Someone should make an autistic spreadsheet for Raildex like the one with Nisekoi chapters.

>>133098466
That was in the screentime list made by 2ch. Though it was before NT13 so Mikoto may be above Othinus again.

>>133098542
Was it? Guess I underestimated those volumes, was it counted by pages, the amount of times their name pops up or what?

>>133098589
They measured it by pages. Mikoto was sixth for NT and fourth overall for the whole series. She was also behind Fremea but Othinus outranked both of them after NT10.

>>133097296
The Simple series is just a medium for where he puts in his unused ideas. So if you want more of it, you're going to have to wait until Kamachi stops releasing so much stuff first, which is to say never.

>>133093593
There was one audio drama where he tried. Komoe recommended him as a server at a family restaurant.

He broke a juice machine trying to get it and spilled juice over a bunch of customers, including Misaka and Kuroko. The ensuing Biribiri rage destroyed the place and instead of making money, Touma was fired and forced to pay the restaurant for damages.

The fukou da is real.

>>133099732
trying to get it to work*

>>133099732
I bet Mikoto stalked him to the restaurant as usual.

>>133093593
When you are so unlucky than you can't die, I don't think getting a job is an option.

What is his power again and why hasn't he been killed yet.

>>133100780
His power is to negate everything supernatural that he touches with his right hand. Big stuff or stuff that is constantly being fed energy takes a while to negate though. He's so unlucky that fate will never grant him the sweet release of death. He also has precognition, so he's quite good at positioning his right hand so that things like lightning attacks don't instakill him.

>>133100780
>What is his power again
Imagine breaker
>and why hasn't he been killed yet.
Because Imagine breaker and the sweet release of death is "too lucky" for him

>>133100924
>>133100937

So a huge nigger could just walk up and beat his face in?

>>133100976
He's pretty good at streetfighting, but generally yes. He doesn't have anything that would work on normal people.

>>133100976
Weren't one of the american soliders in NT10 a nigger?

So none of the evil organisations I presume he fights have thought to send a gang of burly negroes to bash his face in.

>>133101301
touma would probably get his ass beaten and everything broken and somehow save though. death is like a happy end for touma

>>133101301
USA does

>>133101301
The thing is that sending a gang of people to take out Touma necessitates that he's working on his own, which he usually isn't, look at most of the story arcs besides NT10 (where they did send mook soldiers after him and it worked) and they wouldn't have helped. Either someone like Stiyl, Lessar, Mikoto (Did in fact do this with the Hound Dogs) etc etc. will just take out the fodder with ease while Touma goes after the boss.

If you've played Stratego just think of "normal strong guy" as the spy piece where Touma is the general, sure if they go after Touma and he has nothing protecting him he's dead, but more often than not he'll have at least one person with him capable of taking out that person easily.

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>>133101301
even touma cant against FREEDOM powered guns

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>>133077094

>>133098303
shoehorn != more involved

misunderstanding != character development

screen time != relevance

pretending to be a damsil in distress == more attention from Touma

parameter list == no Misaka power up ever

Chances of romantic end zero, Touma confirmed for thinking nothing of Misaka romantically

Impact towards Touma's development zero

Still very ignorant after 35+ volumes

Given a catch up role where its impossible for her to fulfill

Chance of convenient character dying very high

>>133102508
>chance of convenient character dying very high
What?
I don't get it.
Isn't it a taboo in Dengeki the act of hurting or even dirtying Mikoto' clothing?
Having her becoming Level 6 or Togashi releasing HxH on a weekly basis is more realistic than Mikoto dying.

>>133102013
why must you hurt me anon?

>>133102508
Shoehorn actually does mean more involved actually, even if you don't like the reason she's there or think it's an excuse to put her in made by Miki, shoe horning someone into the plot does mean they're more involved.

The word you're thinking of is relevant, which you used later for screentime.

Parameter list also doesn't impact whether or not she'll get a power up, all the parameter list is is a paper that says who's most likely to grow by what amount. It says Mikoto won't become a level 6 but that doesn't mean that she won't grow in another direction as part of Aleister's plan.

I'm not even a Mikotofag and this much is obvious. Work on your pasta, the rest is more or less correct but you jump to a few too many conclusions with the others.

So, what was the explanation for Biribiri going allahu akbar if she went 100% Level 6?

>>133098303
It's funny how you say that and yet the picture you used had a set-up for some really good character development but nothing fucking happened.

>>133102846
I don't she is shoehorned, not when at least when Kamachi and Miki come up with silly excuses to make her appear but can't with other characters like lets say Index.

However I think the way how she appears bit has near zero involvement and impact in the actual plot is quite baffling, it only reaffirms for the Xth time facts we already knew for a long time: chasing after Touma while doing nothing for her feelings.

Also I think that explains why, expected sales decrease aside, NT13 sold suspiciously even lower than the other volumes.

>>133103365
And I meant for NT8,10&13.

However Mikoto on OT volumes like Vol.14,16,17,18&WW3 I agree with the shoehorning.

>>133103049
She hasn't the potential to become one.

She is low tier Level 5 along with Mugino and Misaki.

>>133102846
Misaka really isnt involved in any way in the story which is why she needs to be shoehorned in, there is no plot when it comes to Misaka Mikoto and you should really read the NT1 afterwords where to parameter list blocks Misaka chance to receiving a power up.

>>133103170
>b-but Mikoto and Accel don't care so we shouldn't either!
Every time I read that.
Even fucking Nagai would have done it better.

>>133103706

easy there fucker, saten is the best character in this shitty series and nagai is literally a god

>>133103365
>I don't she is shoehorned, not when at least when
In english please
>>133103620
Did NT8 sell low? NT10 sold low for a multitude of reasons, I rather doubt Mikoto was the main reason.
>>133103682
You're still mixing up involvement and relevance, so long as you're there trying to do something you're involved, no matter if you accomplish shit or matter in the end or not. The latter half is about how relevant you were not how involved you were. You should read my post again, I know exactly what the parameter list is, you've just misunderstood what a power up is, just because she can't become level 6 doesn't mean she can't get stronger than she currently is. Look at Accelerator, he's not Level 6 clearly since that was supposed to take about a hundred years through normal methods of he'd have to kill multitudes of clones (which was confirmed to be largely bullshit to spread the clones around anyways) and yet he's undeniably stronger than he used to be.

>>133103049
They said in the manga only Accelerator can reach a stable Level 6, the others cannot.
I wonder if it has anything to do with his wings.

>>133103881
Accelerator and kakine wings are a sign of level 6 which is why its not possible for Misaka to powering up. If she cant her power up she will be near useless just like NT13.

No, she inst involved just because she is trying to help. She was shoehorned in and forced to hold back the fight between high priest and Touma fulfilling her role as a convenient character. Nor is he relevant, when it come to the story Othinus was mentioned more than Misaka who had the spotlight.

>>133104108
Wings have nothing to do with Level 6, they're magic-side.

It's kinda funny that the only who ever reached level 6 so far is Touma.

>>133104170
>It's kinda funny that the only who ever reached level 6 so far is Touma.

What are you talking about? Touma isn't even a level 5.

>>133104151
>Accelerator and kakine wings are a sign of level 6
According to what. Kakine has had his wings since day 1 and he's always been level 5.

You're also still willfully trying not to learn what the word involved means in favor of shitposting.

>>133104402
>cant argue Misaka's involvement or relevance so time to call shitposting

Well done anon while you're at it you should call me THK.

>>133104553
Sincerest apologies, what would you rather I call you when I tell you I have no interest in Mikoto and am simply telling you how to properly use the world involvement and you keep veering the conversation back to her anyways?

>>133103881
I don't THINK she is.

No, I'm not saying having Mikoto = less sales but that having her too often = less sales because a number of fans now know her involvement barely has relevance. NT3 was mediocre at best but sold like cake for the wrong reasons because of the cover(nips though it Katze was Misaka's dad)

NT8 had the lowest sales before NT13 existed.

>>133103881
>NT10 sold low for a multitude of reasons
I think the main reason was because it was a badly written from a literary point of view.
Even fanfics have better pacing. Should have been 2 volumes instead of rushing everything.
But I agree, Mikoto wasn't the main reason but I dare to say she is one of them.

>>133104676
You don't even read do you anon.

>what would you rather I call you

I told you call me THK

> involvement

Passing by or forced in the story doesn't mean you're involved

>keep veering the conversation back to her anyways

It was about her in the first place so I wonder why I would.

>>133104969
NT10 sold for 160k+ and NT9 sold fof 170k+ neither volume sold low

>>133104151
That's a risky ascertainment.

Wings aren't science.
Aiwass is proof of that.
Aleister forced Aiwass to appear by using science.

Wings from unknown origin in this series means those who would them have the Potential to reach new heights in the right direction unlike Fiamma who did it wrong despite having that much power.
Kakine could and did.
Accelerator did as well.
Even Index has them.
But Mikoto instead was forced with external help to become into some kind of monster while the formers were more angelic/holy in appearance.

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>>133105008
Since you've made it obvious you're being retarded on purpose I'll close it off here. Here you go, I've even underlined it so even you can't miss it, no part of the definition of involvement says you have to perform well or be relevant, you simply need to be there.

>>133105178
>Aleister forced Aiwass to appear by using science
Aleister built a an artificial body for Aiwass using AIM.
He could've done the same by doing the usual magic shit, for example using a person, like Fiamma did with Archangel Gabriel.

>>133105134
Don't take it at face value.

Low here means less than the other volumes not that they sold bad.

Heavy Object isn't getting a boost in sakes despite having the anime airing.
That's what I could call bad because even the 24 min publicity isn't helping at all.

>>133105240
But he didn't.

It's a fact Aleister sucessfully did it according to OT7.
But now diid it using science yet Aiwass itself said Aleister's method wasn't enough to fully manifest it.

>>133105264
Did NT11 sell more than NT10? Did any volume after NT10 sell more than it actually? Because to me bad usually means worse than the ones after it, since volume sales always drop over time it has to be based on later volumes to determine if it was just because that volume was bad and not just normal trends.

>>133105237
Not that anon but the whole topic was about her relevance each time Mikoto is involved.

>>133105237
>Proving again I don't read and now showing off my underlining skills in paint

Again well done anon, involvement and relevant were two different arguments. I think its time to do what you Misakafags are a best. Pulling arguments out of your ass

>>133105327
>But he didn't.
So what?
>>133105327
>using science yet Aiwass itself said Aleister's method wasn't enough to fully manifest it.
Yust wasn´t advenced enough.Because that´s the thing with science.

>>133105353
>Did NT11 sell more than NT10?
Yes, it did.
>Did any volume after NT10 sell more than it actually?
Besides 11 none of them sold more.

>Because to me bad usually means worse than the ones after it, since volume sales always drop over time it has to be based on later volumes to determine if it was just because that volume was bad and not just normal trends.
I would need to look back at the sales charts but compared to the expected decrease that comes with time.
NT9 to NT10 decrease was expected.
NT11 to NT12 decrease was expected
NT12 to NT13 decrease wasn't expected.
It sold much less than despite having factors that supposedly would help to overcome that.

If NT14 manages to beat NT13 on the first week then we would have the reason/pattern.

>>133105372
Please see my first post >>133102846 where I note that most of his argument is fine and I'm mostly nitpicking at his use of the word involved, at no point was I attempting to claim she was relevant.
>>133105424
Please note as well that I literally opened with the fact I'm not a Mikotofag, but go ahead and keep deflecting the argument to irrelevant things like how much effort I'm going to put into a shitty paint picture or that this is about Mikoto in the least.

>>133105583
But so is magic, when Aleister was on magic side be helped to advance it great lengths.
Just because he left doesn't means someone else won't.

>>133105656
Then both you stop the petty nitpick and face the real issue of the thread: is Mikoto' involvement relevant? Why?

>>133105656
Holy shit you're fucking retarded.

>>133105724
>But so is magic
No the limits are the Magic gods.
Aleister want´s to go even behind Level 6.

>>133105640
>Yes, it did.
It didn't, actually. NT10 sold more than NT11.

>>133105928
That's only IF you follow their methods like Ollerus.
Methos that are indeed outdated.
None of them had wings.

If Accel and Kakine are so far above the other Level 5s why didn't they/Crowley designate those two as Level 6 and have 'Level 6' be Level 7?

>>133106596
You do that, and you make AC look weaker if you can distract their "two obviously biggest guns".

Distracting merely the top two Level 5s mitigates any morale boosts.

>>133105791
Misaka's role in the story is to be a convenient character not involved with the main cast or relevant to the plot of the story. If there is a enemy that needs to be held off Misaka would be that character that would do the job. If there is a fight that must be avoided Misaka would get that job done. Other than that she offers fan service, you know like the boobs and ass of fairy tail.

>>133106596
Because Gunha might be left out when he shouldn't, hard to tell, and the number 6 might be on that level too.

Besides at first it was really only Accel that was at that level, Kakine wasn't that great, so making a whole level for him seems pointless.

>>133107333
Gynha is special.
He was even acknowledge to have pitentiy Ollerus didn't.

I wonder when will happen though, want to see how godlike cann he be.

>>133107412
*He we was acknowledged to have potential even Ollerus didn't.

He's so famous he should be a celebrity with tons of fangirls by now.

I haven't kept up with Index in over a year...

Did Othinus win Touma yet? Or is she just another member of his harem destined for irrelevance like Index and Mikoto?

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>>133107605

>>133107605
Has it been a whole year since NT10?

>>133107605
Othinus as a tiny fairy is still more relevant than Mikoto and Index.

>>133106596
Because Level 6 is AC's equivalent of a magic god. Neither Accel nor Kakine are at that level.

>>133081804
I'd fuck her

How long until this franchise is dead and finished?

>>133108899
Another 10 volumes.

>>133107965
>more than Index
Not hard when she doesn't even appear

>more than Mikoto
The proof that screen time =/= relevance

>>133109059
Othinus has both more screen time and relevance though in NT.

>>133108899
Well, considering Intellectual Village is ending, there is a distinct possibility that Kamachi could end Index at one point. But considering this is his flagship series and somehow manages to get out three spinoff off of it, I'm guessing it will end when Kamachi loses his love of writing.

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>>>/b/
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>>133109145
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Obviously, she was hinted since Vol.22 and the whole story build up to that until NT.9 climax.

Afterwards it all crashed down into the mess that was NT10

>>133109147
I kind of missed you

The show is hilarious pseudo science bullshit.

Electricity does not work that way. She has to put the coin inside of her fucking arm for it to travel aswell alongside the electricity. Name any railgun in real life that can fire a metal object like that without it being INSIDE THE FUCKING RAILGUN FIRST.


There are none, there is also this thing called recoil. The kinetic energy that follows with it would destroy that cunt girl.

Tl:TR the series have nothing to do with "science" "rail" or "gun" in its name. NOTHING in the title is true about the show.

>>133110172
Nice word filter baka

>>133110172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BfU-wMwL2U


notice RECOIL and this thing called KINETIC ENERGY? you know the thing that when objects hit other objects damage happens for reasons?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
I fucking hope they teach this in america so the stereotype isn't true.

>>133110561
>wah wah, a series of fantasy-fiction novels for teenagers isn't scientifically accurate!

>>133110692
fanfiction books that does not contain ANYTHING about the word "scientific" "rail" or "gun" is just fucking hilarious of a blunder.

>>133110651
Nor does gauss cannon work that way. I guess people who dont understand simple science cant understand google searches either.

>>133110692
And he picks the weirdest one too, Accel's manga has the friction girl who is a far worse offender for bending the laws of physics

>>133110816
Im more angry at the title. There is nothing redeemable about the show other than the fact people dropped the anime when they realised what cringeworthy blunder of a lack of plot it was.
I mean fucking clones of the girl aswell?


What the fuck?

>>133110870
Also for the fact that nobody punches the unlikeable cunt who acts hostile towards everyone is just there to anoy people watching. People quit watching and the anime stopped being made.
GEES WHAT A SUPRISE.

>>133110915
Nigga, you cant mention anything redeemable about the show that even granted it another season.


Maybe its the....deep character that touma is, we havent seen this stock character before now have we? at least not in a year at least! thats what makes the show interesting and stand out from the generic anime with no soul in it!!!!!!!

>>133110922
But Touma does get punched

>>133110976
Im talking about the "rail" "gun" bitch.

Fucking Dragon ball, DRAGON BALL had someone punch that videl girl, but we cant see this bitch punched?

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>>133111000
Nice trips

>>133111000
If you want to watch girls getting punched so much, go watch index. Railgun was never about punching chicks.

>>133111081
We cant see this bitch get punched. not even once by the MAIN CHARACTER!
stop being such a fucking pussy and punch the bitch, she deserves to be killed and tortured for being such an unlikeable character and we cant see her get one single punch by touma?

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>>133111150
Neither does he punch Index or Himegami or Pierce. Why should Mikoto be singled out? Because you don't like her?

>>133111283
Why shouldnt he punch her most of all? I supose you are into beastiality since you like bitches.


Everyone is not equal, im baffled I have to tell you this like one would be telling an 8 year old.


She has given the viewers nothing but an anoying cunt like persona. Why he does not punch her even BEFORE she fought him is beyond the logical realm of common sense.

Or would you be such a pussy not to punch a girl in real life that acted that way?

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>>133111283
>Hating on the best character
>>133111460
>Resorting to violence when you don't like someone
>Not just turning 360 degrees and walking away

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>>133111539
These cat like creatures are more likeable than that cunt.

You need to teach a female dog like that respect. I dont care if she does not like a person for no reason, she will respect them. Thats what it about, she needs to learn her place.

>>133111460
You should definitely go out and start punching cunts left and right, dude. We might even hear about it on the news if you do.

>>133111539
I'm not hating on best level 5.

>>133111752
You should definately stop punching people who attack you, we will hear you on the news if you do. They listed this mangina SJW guy who refused to punch this bitch who nobody liked and who couldnt even list anything likeable about her if they got a gun to their head.

>>133089398
>Index
>the funniest

Saten, Kuroko, Uiharu, Sisters, LO, Saiai, Touma, Aogami, Laura Stuart, Gunha, Hamazura, Misuzu, Roberto Katze, Lessar and Dandy Dog Kihara are funnier than Index

He'll never despair as long as Mikoto is by his side. She is his strength.

Canon.

>>133111854
>Implying any sort of woman would even try to attack me.

>>133112046
This rail gun bitch would, and even if she didnt why wouldnt you punch the bitch? Nobody can give any reason NOT to punc her. period.