Occasionaly Sakuga Thread

liborek got BTFO so hard

https://twitter.com/kubo_chika/status/661067319699877888

>Bパート明けから社内。冒頭、二人の会話を今村大樹さん。ジェノスがポーズを構えてから、岸壁パンチラッシュまでが今井君。そこからラストまでが澤田さんです。 このシーン全体を澤田さんに作監してもらいましたが、澤田さんのジェノスが格好良かったので、ジェノスは総作監ほとんど入れてません。

Correct me if the translation wrong.

For the 2nd half, the conversation before the battle was done by Imamura Daiki.

Arifumi Imai's cuts start from Genos' pose to the beam attack that destroyed the cliff.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18201/animated-arifumi_imai-debris-effects-fighting-fire

Start from there to the last cut, it was done by Hidehiko Sawada.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18200/animated-arifumi_imai-debris-effects-fighting-one-

So....that part supposed to be Sawada and not Imai ? The smears looks like from his cut in episode 2.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17850/animated-debris-effects-fighting-hidehiko_sawada-l

>>133047071
That Noragami OP cut ?
BONES cop got owned.

That pastebin is pretty useful OP.

Sakuga's a thing I've always wanted to delve into more. It really helps.

Thanks a bunch.

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>>133046966
God, the slowmo feels REAL.

mad props to the animators

>>133047071
Also, he said that because Noragami forgot the OP credit and recently fix it, and Space Dandy #6.

Did BONES really forget the Mihara's credit for Space Dandy #6 ?

That's really awful since that episode is basically almost his solo episode.

>>133047132
Glad if that helps.

I'm not an expert though, so probably I can't give anything much other than that pastebin.

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>this season

Sakuga Fall is real.

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Yuta.

This cuts remind me of Space Dandy #13.

>>133047436
It's nice seeing Nakamura handle character animation, that's something you don't see from him often.

>>133047168
I think one part that really sells it is the slow moving speed-lines. A subtle thing that works really well.

Forgot to mention that Imai's using digital animation for this episode.

https://twitter.com/kubo_chika/status/661067375245070336

He's using flash.

>>133047464
yeah, also his slow motion is really good.
The cut where Leo's running from monster in Kekkai Sensen's first episode is really good.

>>133046966
Thanks for the pastebin. I remember I really like battle scene in sword of stranger when I watched it 7 years ago. Gonna go binge watching all of his other works on youtube now.

https://youtu.be/DlgRsmKjOgs?t=53
It's amazing how a use of simple follow-through and overlapping action can add so much life to an animation.

>>133048275
Who did that?

>>133046966
Thx of sakuga

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>>133048275
>>133048298

Nonaka is someone worth studying.
People often accuse of abusing smears but he's actually amazing at maintaining mass and volume of his drawing.

>>133048360
The first cut looks unfinished.

>>133048397
It's brilliant.
Literally just a loop of under 10 frames.

The action and momentum are clear in every frame.
This is what a good key animation should be.

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THE KOREANS ARE GETTING BETTER

>>133048483
There are some talented Koreans working in the anime industry like Sejoon Kim and Sunghoo Park, but the good animation in the latest One Punch Man episode was done by the few Japanese animators who were on the episode.

>>133048483
That scene is Sawada, isn't it ?
I don't remember DR MOVIE ever being good.

>>133048483
You know the Koreans didn't do the fight, right?

>>133046966
作画 isn't a specific cinematographic term. You are misusing it and Japanese wouldn't understand why. That's some pretty fucking dismal bastardisation of language. Good job you stupid fucking EOP.

>>133048899
>You are misusing it and Japanese wouldn't understand why
Yeah, only baka gaijins visit 作画を語るスレand 作画@wiki.
Japanese wouldn't understand these at all.

>>133048899
Thanks for enlightening me senpai, that's really informative.

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http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18192

liborek....

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>>133049285
?

>>133049285
New GitS movie it simply titled New Movie? Not even Arise in the title?

>>133050058
liborek adds bahi_jd without and removed the tag "artist unknown",then paeses add "artist unknown" tag...

Well, that cut looks like bahi but...if that cut wasn't done by bahi alone, that means liborek will get owned again.

short version :

paeses trying to btfo bones cop

>>133050143
noots just being noots.

>>133046966
I'm a relatively new sakuga MAD youtuber can I get my channel put in the pastebin

>>133048397
Yeah, looks like it's missing douga.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1wouFmqulPZd3FwdUV3aU9aQ1k/view?usp=docslist_api

>>133048275
The beginning of this ending looks so jerky and unnatural. I like what they were trying to do with angles but it didn't work out well.

>>133051199
Yes. Just put it and post here.

>>133051199
>>133051604
Also, I hope you put the source or KA's name so it will be more informative.

Just like BlueSakuga did.

>>133051604
Youtube.com/loyaltabk

I put the names of the anime. To be honest I don't know where to find out the animator of each specific scene. People have called me out for it in the comments

are bluesakuga or sakugadaichi /a/nons?

>>133052196
Who fucking cares?

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>liking forced animation

>>133052276
I have some questions for them

>>133052282
you are so lucky i deleted all of my bait images recently

>That feel when even Valkyrie Drive has some Sakuga.

It isn't a myth.

Sakuga fall is real

>>133052323
I've only been watching OPM, Noragami S2, and Owari no Seraph S2

what else this season has sakuga and is actually good?

>>133051884
Well I suggest you to make more and better compilation. It's not that bad, but it's just not really informative.

The most easy way is using booru.
http://sakuga.yshi.org/
I suggest you to use it anyway, because it helps you to learn each artists' styles and recognize them.

Also use this web as reference.
http://seesaawiki.jp/w/radioi_34/
and
http://www18.atwiki.jp/

Learn from other people like BlueSakuga or SakugaDaichi.

Personally I like BlueSakuga's MAD because he made the compilation for specific's artist, and it really helps you to learn their styles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jl3Gw_eqJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9T1p2qo5rk

He also has great sense of editing and how to use music in the video.

>>133052196
No, but they use twitter though.

friendly reminder that sakugashits are hypocrite fucks
nobody retweeted the phantom world pv despite it having better animation that eupho ever did

>>133052381
Bluesakuga was the first person's videos I saw

do creditless OPs for hunter x hunter 2011 even exist? been trying to get a hold of them to put in a MAD

>>133052493
Here's your reply senpai

>>133052381
>Well I suggest you to make more and better compilation. It's not that bad, but it's just not really informative.

I only started 3 months ago. thanks for all the info and help

>>133052493
I just watched the Phantom World PV and nothing really stood out to me, animation-wise. Which bits did you think were good?

>>133052537
Try to download the BD version.

I feel kind today, so here the link :
#F!Oo0DgbSS!lhyj_gC8r0KmiwsIzUQ9kg
#F!poszAT5D!WHmzr2D5uv7h01_a5G9a5g

>>133052636
how do I use this, pasted into my torrent client and got nothing

also thank you

>>133052860
Ever seen a Mega link before?

>>133052928
yes

>Robo on the Road has the most impressive animation in Animator Expo since the cockroach girl short
>sakugabutas on Twitter do nothing but bitch about MUH OBJECTIFICATION, MUH CREEP PERVERT ROBOT
Nice community, faggots!

>>133053013
oh ok I feel stupid now. Thanks

>>133046966
Why do I keep thinking that the slowmo part is a higher framerate?

In an ideal world where animators aren't paid slave wages, would we have more sakuga in our Chinese cartoons?

>>133053022
They want to upload it but probably it will be problematic.

Also I don't know if this is related or not, but aers or kraker said because the server of booru located in Canada, I don't really know whether Canada regulates the law regarding animation, i.e nudity, or not.

So who's your gateway to sakuga, /a/ ?

Mine is mainstream one, Yutapon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bokli_abJnI

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Post your top favorite animators and their best cuts in your opinion

1. Tetsuya Takeuchi
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/15952/
>Panty Flash Teacher ep 1 & Nurse Me! Ep 2 Kek

2. Arifumi Imai
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/15048/
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17153/

3. Hiroyuki Yamashita
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/15735/
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/7019/

4. Yutaka Nakamura
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/4493/
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/9056/

5. Megumi Kouno
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/11135/
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/7256/

6. Shingo Yamashita
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/9214/
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/4191/
>whole Shinsekai Yori ED

>>133053725
Hironori Tanaka.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/dd0e72473936a13ff348e8353a309533.webm

>2:30

>>133053478
But the girl is 20-something.
Either way, Sakugabooru is fucked due to copyright issues. It will be taken down as early as TPP enters action.

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>>133048483
webm for reference

>>133047168
>U.S Department of Defense
What?

>>133054394
The only three-letter agency in the USA that isn't corrupt as balls.

>>133054571
Explain further

>>133054075
When will Megumi Kouno work on something good?

>>133054626
When she stops working for A1 shows.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18212/artist_unknown-background_animation-hidamari_sketc

sakuga.yshi.org/post?tags=rest_in_peace_matsuki_miyu

Dis pls.

Don't remind me ;__;

Where do all these OPM animator come from and why are they all working for that show

It's completly unfair when all other show ever have shit animation and QUALITY the whole time

this show shows why madhouse is besthouse
i dont understand why people only go apeshit on kyoani threads

>>133057879
Natsume's connection through Space Dandy

>>133057965
Well, the only notable animator from madhouse in this show is Sawada.

Arifumi Imai , Yoshimichi Kameda, Norifumi Kugai, Se Joon Kim, Kojima Keisuke, Nakayama Ryu, Shun Enokido, Toshiyuki Sato, and Sada Toshi aren't from Madhouse.

>>133058396
>Natsume's connection through Space Dandy
Then why did Space Dandy got such great animators in the first place?
Just because Watanabe produced it? Is he that respected in the industry?

Still it's unfair. I love OPM but really, leave some good guys for other anime. And what's with the perfect schedule

>>133054726
I want to see Kouno-chang works on Grimgal.

>>133057965
This is honestly the first in a very long time that Madhouse has produced a TV series with animation this good. So I would hardly call them besthouse.

>>133058594
Because Watanabe is Minami's friend.

And Minami (BONES President) is one of big names in anime industry. Rumor said that if Minami asked Bandai/Aniplex/Other production company to make original anime, there's only two answers, "yes" or "ok".
Also, it's not a secret BONES is one studio that really care about animators, and almost constantly producing good animation.

Yoshimichi Kameda and Norifumi Kugai are one of animators whose names became famous because BONES' anime (Kameda with FMA B and Kugai with Space Dandy).

>I love OPM but really, leave some good guys for other anime.

That's not how this industry work. Nowadays anime is only a medium to sell goods like manga, game, visual novel, light novel, etc. They (producer) don't really care on the animation quality. The main focus is to boost the original source material.

That's why we got so many anime in one season, and these young animators are forced to work in very tight schedule without much experience.

>>133059049
I see, that explain a fair bit, thanks
And now I'm disgusted. I had a guts feeling anime production is really just a matter of smooth talking (instead of all producers and directors getting a chance to get good animators for their show depending on budget or the importance of the work being adapted) and it turns out to be exactly that.
Seriously depressing.

>They (producer) don't really care on the animation quality. The main focus is to boost the original source material

Well they aren't doing a very good job if the anime looks so bad it doesn't give peoples any reasons to care for the source material at all. It might be fine for moe SOL shows but then there are action packed shows like Heavy Object which completely fail to capture the appeal of the original work due to the low animation quality and it simply turns off everyone. Just like the OPM anime would if it was flash animated or something.

>>133059905
Well, probably I put my words too far.
Maybe some of them care, usually the animation producer (they're the one who recruit the character designer and animation director), but the current state in anime industry demand them to produce more money for the original source.

So they can't stop making more and more anime. Meanwhile the number of experienced animators are limited, and they usually just freelancers.

The high demand for anime adaptation can't meet with high supply of good staff & animators, so they must keep going with very bad schedule and produce mediocre animation.

>>133054075
Sorry can't think of anything yet. Plus the booru is down.

Here's the reason :

[19:02] <Kraker2k> is the booru rly being ddosd
[19:03] <Maxine> he just got cum on the server

>>133047089

I had a suspicion Sawada was the one doing the 2nd half of the fight. Those smears/character movements were all too familiar

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>>133047436
And underneath is, was still just poor little GaGon, the tiny innocent baby king kong kaijuu.

Die, beast.

>>133062141
Yeah, I think it's Sawada.
Why no one notice Kubota's tweets ?

The booru is too slow right now, damn.

>>133062290
#kaijuulivematters

>>133059049
>Rumor said that if Minami asked Bandai/Aniplex/Other production company to make original anime, there's only two answers, "yes" or "ok".

Really?

>>133058396

People will never stop saying BASED Madhouse because of all the people that used to be employed there( Actual employees not freelancers)

The only notable people left are Morio Asaka, Atsuko Ishizuka, Yuzo Sato, migmi and Hidehiko Sawada

Now compare that to the list of people who have left

>Tetsuro Araki (Stuck at Production I.G)
>Tomohiko Ito (Jerks off Sword Art Online)
> Masao Maruyama ( Was banished after putting Madhouse into debt and created MAPPA)
>Masayuki Kojima ( Went freelance)
>Satoshi Kon (Dead)
> Mamoru Hosoda (Created his own studio but still works with Madhouse
> Sayo Yamamoto (Struck out on her own)
> Satoshi Nishimura (Joined Studio Live)

>>133046966
Can't get enough of that slo-mo bit. Love that electric discharge and the cloth ripples.

>>133062534
>Yuzo Sato last work directoral work is Mahou Sensou.

Gosh, sometimes I consider myself to enter LN industry, probably my work will be adapted into anime and directed by him.

It couldn't be any worse than Mahou Sensou, right ?

>>133057965
This. Madhouse is the only anime studio that literally never disappoints

>from the makers of Sakura Card Captors
>and Captain Tsubasa
>and Death parade
>and Overlord
>and Death note
>and and and and
I would donate to madhouse every month if I could.

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>>133062813
>never disappoints
>Death parade
>and Overlord
>and Death note

Don't forget pic related.

>>133062987
Never watched it, it's probably good though.

>>133046966
The gif of the line art from the manga was better.

>>133063066
Try it. You're going to waste yout yime anyway.

>>133059049
Shut the fuck Bahi.

>>133062987
>Gunslinger Shana
>Lelouch
>Saber
>Gilgamesh
Very original bro

>>133063246
If I'm bahi probably I've deleted that post.

>>133063246

I don't know why, but I laughed really hard when I saw this

>>133062987
Death Parade was decent, the only thing which wasn't great was how the ending amounted to little.
Overlord was pretty clearly a low budget affair because of the CGI abuse and well, what they did get to adapt wasn't exactly the best content to adapt into a single cour.

>>133063530
When are you going to save the anime industry?

>>133063642
Hyped.
Now delete that post.

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BAHI!

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>>133052493
>even kViN doesn't want to talk about it

>>133052493
>>133064277
Why?
Because it's too lewd for them or what?
Fucking sjws

>>133064340
https://twitter.com/liborek3/status/661216890551955456

>>133064340
The PV doesn't look particularly impressive to be fair, and the source material isn't helping expectations.

>>133064419
I have to agree, but still it's not like the actual show won't have ANY of the usual good Kyoani cuts either right?

>>133064400
>slutmika
>"filters automatically make any anime bad!"

This guy sound like cancer

>>133064340
kViN sold out and is now part of the mainstream ANN clique so he must hate anything remotely fanservicey.

>>133064571
>>133064400
I don't get it though, he loves eupho and that was filled to the brim with awful filters, moreso than what you see in the Phantom World trailer.

>>133064571
>but still it's not like the actual show won't have ANY of the usual good Kyoani cuts either right?
True, it's not the first time a Kyoani PV didn't show off any impressive animation. Most of the skepticism comes from Ishihara's recent performance and the source material.

If there's one thing Ishihara did well with Chuu2, it would be the comedy bits so if he can deliver on that in Phantom World then it's fine.

>>133064708
Ishihara is KyoAni's best director

>>133064708
>if he can deliver on that in Phantom World then it's fine.
No, it's not fine for him to make the main plot so bad you want to gouge your eyes out just like chuuni was.

>>133064785
Chuu2's first season was okay.

>>133064835
Yes it was.
I'm totally okay for something like it, but the second season was so terrible it made the first season retroactively bad.
I'm still mad and forever I will be. What a shit show.

>>133054075
Toshiyuki Inoue is the GOAT

>>133064897
You're overreacting

>>133052493
>phantom world pv
Why does all those shitty fantasy ln adaptation always have a line with "new world" in the opening? It's so silly considering that more than 10 shows a year have this garbage setting.
Asterisk: Brand-new world
Rakudai: A brave new world
Phantom World: 開け new world

>>133064897
It was shit from the beginning desu

>>133064708
Yeah, they rushed to get it out because they have to show it at the event last weekend.

Recent KyoAni's anime suffer from favoring illustrative drawing over animation centered design.

>>133065888
As in their designs aren't that animation-friendly?

>>133065888
>animation centered design
Fuck that shit. It was proven several times that complex designs never stopped the best animators.
Beside anime was always superior to western animation because it had that complexity.

>>133065888
Can't be helped, Horiguchi hated being an animator so now she only illustrates.

>>133065925
Too many unnecessary detail(look at how many lines they use just to draw High Speed! character's hair).
It looks good as a still frame but doesn't allow a wide-range of movement, and still looks "correct" even when off-model a bit.

Animation-centered design would be something like K-on and Nichijou.

>>133066121
>Animation-centered design would be something like K-on and Nichijou.
And Munto.

>>133066121
>and doesn't look "correct" when off-model a bit

>>133066121
That's just how it is for most anime to begin with, their designs tend to be less animation-friendly than western stuff.

>>133066258
You're right.

>>133066020
She made a right choice leaving KyoAni.

>Ninja Slayer's final episode was more interesting and exciting than Kekkai's
What happened to Rie Matsumoto? Bones murdered her passion.

>>133066415
Bones is where talents go to die.

I hope Sanrio will hire Bones again to make another cute show.

I would love to see them make a cute Kirimi-chan-anime.

>>133066415
>>133066444
Here's your reply

>>133065987
>complex designs never stopped the best animators
Well, most animators aren't best animators.

Also, many of the "best animators" don't like working with that kind of design.

>>133066415
Kekkai Sensen, the show /a/ claims is bad but can't explain why,

>>133066561
I'm serious about Ninja Slayer's final episode being better than Kekkai's. Then again, it's the best final episode of the year. Only Eupho's comes close.

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>>133066415
>Ninja Slayer's final episode was more interesting and exciting than Kekkai's
Is this a new epic meme?

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>>133046966
>koreans did most of the animation this episode
I knew this one looked a little lackluster.

>>133066849
Koreans also did the 3D animation for Etotama.

>>133066843
Not him but Ninja Slayer's last episode is legitimately good.
Kekkai's last episode let many people down because we waited 3 months for it.

>>133066916
>3D Animation
There's the keyword

>>133066936
>Kekkai's last episode let many people down
That's what not the general consensus at all

>>133066625
I can: it had no interesting underlaying plot, the action was uninteresting, most of the characters have no character, which result in the comedy falling flat, in short it was a fucking failure and a gigantic disappointment.

>>133067007
It is in the sakuga community.
It didn't even have Yutapon.

>>133067007
Some /a/nons like to believe they speak for the majority of /a/, or even represent the general western audience.

>>133066936
>Ninja Slayer's last episode is legitimately good.
It was only "good" for the retards that stuck with it

>Kekkai's last episode let many people down
All the threads about it were largely positive about it and called it among the best endings of the year.

>>133067016
[Reply]

>>133066995
Nothing wrong with liking 3D.

In fact, Japan actually watched Etotama because it was advertised as a 3D show made by Shirogumi, a studio respected by many.
Turns out that Shirogumi only did some part of it.

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>>133067037
>in the sakuga community.

>>133067103
I only watched Ninja Slayer's final episode.

>>133067238
But there is. 3D animation looks awful

>>133067384
That makes your opinion worthless

>>133067449
even when it's good people ignore anyway

>>133067520
It wasn't that ignored. In fact, reactions to the show's 3D was rather positive. Some people on /a/ make the mistake of actually believing that Etotama was the rival to Show By Rock!! just because that show also had CGI chibis and a catgirl protagonist, but Japan actually considered Etotama to be the rival to Mikagura Gakuen.

>>133067692
that is good then, because i like 3d animation too, besides the hate that gets.

>>133047213
Then why is everyone circlejerking over OPM exclusively?

>>133047089
Wish I could have replied earlier but, you're a bit off.
Imai took care of everything from Genos' stance to the gatling punch attack on the cliff, not just the laser.

Translation:
From the start of B-part, (the animation) was in-house.
Starting off, their(Saitama and Genos') conversation was (done by) Imamura Daiki.
From the point that Genos took his stance to the cliff punching rush was (Arifumi)Imai.
There on until the end was (Hidehiko)Sawada.
Sawada acted as the animation director for this entire scene, but since Sawada's Genos was so cool, there was almost no need for the genearl animation director (when dealing) with Genos.

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>>133066415
>>133066698
>>133066936
Ninja Slayer was truly a diamond in the rough.

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>>133046966
>List of Sakuga anime
>Starts with year 2000
Come the fuck on anon.

Did Hori appear in Osomatsu-san yet?

>>133068342
>That aspect ratio breaking
AOTY of all years.

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>>133068412
What does being a fucking retard feel like?

>>133068521
Didn't notice the tabs.

>>133067860
Because Concrete Revolutio is garbage despite the animation.

>>133068700
What animation? Other than the obligatory "cool cut" per episode it has mediocre animation.

>>133046966
>UBW and Oregairu
>sakuga
Haha oh wow.

>>133048899
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gairaigo_and_wasei-eigo_terms

>>133054075
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/4191/
holy shit, I've seen the explosive clip but this is ridiculous

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>>133069018
>UBW
>not sakuga

>>133068342
This looks awful

>>133069893
UBW is fake sakuga

>>133070212
Doesn't make it inferior to a Real Sakuga!

>>133068968
You're joking, right?

>>133070404
You're joking, right?

>>133070404
>>133070424
kek

>>133070212
>fake sakuga
>forced animation
These memes are incredible.

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>>133070057
Looks better than half the shows that were airing that season

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>>133070486
Perfect to include in the next updates then.

>>133069893
it's funny how they wanted to do a Itano's circus in UBW just like Urobuchi wanted a Itano's circus in Zero.

>>133070559
This.

I dislike how the "sakuga community" is overly impressed by flashy, derivative action over character animation or otherwise more daring approaches.

>>133071300
>or otherwise more daring approaches
Such as?

>>133071377
For example there's not a single Shiranpuri clip on the booru, even though it's far more interesting than yet another colorful action scene trying to ape Tanaka, Nakamura or Norio with added gimmicks like a Circus or jerky camera movement without any thought.

>>133071461
You have to remember that people like Tanaka, Nakamura and Norio regularly work on TV anime series hence they get more exposure. Something like Shiranpuri is simply too obscure.

>>133071461
To be fair, hardly anyone even took notice of the Anime Mirai shorts save for a handful partly due to the lack of subs.

I'm not even watching the new Pokemon but this is unbelievable

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18054/animated-beams-effects-masaaki_iwane-pokemon_xy-sm
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18149/animated-creatures-effects-explosions-fighting-fir
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/14960/aito_ohashi-animated-background_animation-creature

>>133072051
This is ridiculous, since when Pokemon has such a good animation?

Any anons here majoring in animation or is an animator? How does one even begin drawing this stuff?

>>133072356
Loomis.

>>133072318
XY

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Do we know who's in charge of animating this smears magnet?

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>>133073785

>>133073785
>>133073824
Looks kinda like Masayuki Nonoka

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>>133073882
He's credited so I guess so.

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I need to get caught up to ONE's manga, but I'm only caught up with Murata's.

What chapter is Murata caught up to?

>>133074528
Start at chapter 53 for the webcomic

>>133074528
Just read it from the start.

>>133074803
I've already read it from the start. The only problem is that it's been literally years so I couldn't remember what chapter I was on.

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>>133074776
Thanks, anon.

>>133071300
I agree but most sakuga I see is action oriented

>>133074917

It would be interesting if there was a detective/mystery series that focused on character animation

For example a character is slightly twitching when they're lying but it wouldn't do the obvious thing and focus the camera on the spot so only people that are paying attention would catch a possible tell

It would obviously require intense, smooth, and subtle character animation, the kind usually reserved for movies, but I think it'd be interesting to say the least

>>133075113
Not many Japanese animators can do subtle character animation unfortunately.

>>133075168
SHAFT is good.
Monogari has nice acting animation

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>>133075113
>It would be interesting if there was a detective/mystery series that focused on character animation

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>>133075264

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>>133075295
kill yourself, sjw kek

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>>133075113
Literally Hyoka

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>>133075381
Can't handle the truth?

>>133075295
>>133075381
>>133075417
You are both giant memspouting faggots.

>>133075270
>>133075396
>fake character animation
>good

>>133075446
>>fake character animation

what

By the way, does Kyoani have any, like, spearhead animator, I guess? I've rarely heard of any specific names tied to Kyoani other than their character designers that I presume were animators at one point.

I mean, Gainax had recognizable names like Imaishi and Yoshinari for a while, and BONES has Yutapon, I think.

>>133075417
>>133075381
>>133075295
Fuck off, the both of you.

>>133075396
>>133075270
Hyouka doesn't really have an emphasis on subtle movements that serves as tells though. Not saying it looks bad, but I don't think it fits the anon's description.

>>133075471
ARTIFICIAL ANIMATION

>>133075498
>By the way, does Kyoani have any, like, spearhead animator, I guess? I've rarely heard of any specific names tied to Kyoani other than their character designers that I presume were animators at one point.
uhhh Kigami

r u srs

>>133075471
real character animation: Mitsuo Iso, Toshiyuki Inoue, Hiroyuki Okiura
fake character animation: KyoAni, Megumi Kouno

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>>133075523
>>133075562
Ah yes, of course.

>>133075562
You didn't even pick good examples for the 'real' part

>>133075540
literally who

>>133075540
Yeah, I'm just getting to this shit man, Give me a little leeway here.

I'm just a babby trying to learn. I'll look that name up though. Thanks.

>>133075498
>does Kyoani have any, like, spearhead animator

Kigami's the one everyone in the studio looks up to. Back when he was working on Akira, Toshiyuki Inoue saw Kigami was some kind of "rival" so that says something about his skills at least.

>>133075581
Can't get any more real than Okiura m8

>>133075610
ok

Kyoani uses all in-house talent, creates an environment where a house-style is endorsed (enforced even?) and they're also pretty secretive about who animated what. So they're unlike every other anime studio in that sense.

Some animators do stand out in Kyoani shows, but most of them are essentially just names on a credits list.

>>133075732
>they're also pretty secretive about who animated what
Horiguchi talked about who animated which scene in the staff commentary track quite often.
Too bad, she's gone now.

I wonder how much budget was spent on this.

>>133076063
Definitely a lot.

God Hyoukas character animation in emotionally laden scenes was awesome.

>>133076063
You mean One Punch Man? It's confirmed that the budget for the series is average.

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What will sakugafags do when anime foes CGI only?

>>133076223
It's the future, it can't be helped. Sakugafags will be talking about their favourite CG animators in the future.

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>>133075562
>Megumi Kouno
>fake

>>133062813
WHAT IS CHAOS:HEAD
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT WAS
DISAPPOINTMENT OF THE FUCKING MILLENNIUM
NEVER FORGET

>>133076223
I'm going to kill myself unless Tatsunoko makes a new Karas OVA

>>133069018
Oregairu has Tatsuya Takeuchi.
idk about UBW, but probably because they has powerful background from Studio Pablo (though they ruin it with stupid AE filters).

>>133068136
Someone really need to link the tweet in the coment.
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18200/animated-arifumi_imai-debris-effects-fighting-one-

>>133076290
Tatsunoko currently working on Mach GoGoGo remake.

>>133076518
UBW was considered due to Nozomu Abe and Masayuki Kunihiro.

>>133070212
KViN spotted.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-02/studio-bones-animates-my-hero-academia-show-posts-1st-visual/.94944

How do you guys feel about this ?

>>133076268
But sakugafags can't even admit that CGI is still a form of animation now
http://a.uguu.se/bbnhfp.webm

>>133076797
>Bones
Bahi confirmed.

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>>133077023
Impressive, that's studio Orange isn't it?

>>133077144
Yeah. The camera work is a big step ahead of what they did in Majestic Prince.

>>133077323
I just started noticing them this season in Comet Lucifer, the mecha animation is surprisingly good and it caught my attention (the dancing vegetables was a big step down, regardless of how dumb the scene was).

>>133076797
Okay, kinda disappointed since I thought they gonna make Ace Attorney with Kenji Nagasaki again (they did the animation for AA 5 cutscenes).

But if we got studio B and FMA B's treatment, with Kameda as Animation Director, than I will be happy.

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Ep 02
00:06:00
where is the music from?

>>133077881
>another studio is going to animate Ace Attourney

fuck

>>133076579
By who?

>open thread expecting sakuga webms and good taste
>get mindless popular animator circlejerk and shitposting instead

Off I go.

B A H I
A
H
I

>>133080973
Why just posting webm if we have booru already.
The point is to discuss any sakuga related topic, because booru's forum is not really effective.

About the shitposting, this is /a/'s nature, so get used to it.

Oh, so it's really Nagasaki x Umakoshi then.

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>>133081709
How can one man be so based?

>>133081871
It's confirmed?

>>133082603
all but.

>>133082603
Most likely, that key visual looks like Umakoshi.

>>133046966
Already dropped one shit man and concrete shit, sakuga is not enough to save terrible shows.

>>133082977
Checked.

Here's your reply senpai.

>>133082977
but this thread is not about shows.

it's about animation.

>>133083151
Oh, ok. OPM "sakuga" is mediocre as shit.

>>133083529
It seems you really hate animation.
Why keep struggling to watch chinese cartoons ?

>>133083767
Why are you responding to him?

>>133083767
Not like OPM is an example of good animation or anything, to be honest.

>>133083844
Just to keep bumping the thread desu.

>>133083884
What do you consider to be an example of good animation?

>>133082029
i love Bahi but this head twitch makes me giggle everytime

OST WHEN ?

im trying to find out whether eps 25 shinsekai yori's kiroumaru sacrifice scene was done by Nakatsuru Katsuyoshi. he did 25 according to MAL.

Well, I haven't watch Shinsekai Yori, but why don't you just try to upload it on booru ?

He's listed on the wiki, probably it's really him. Just add tag "presumed"

I can't find the detail about his cuts in Shinsekai Yori #25 though.

http://seesaawiki.jp/w/radioi_34/d/%bf%b7%c0%a4%b3%a6%a4%e8%a4%ea

http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/pages/313.html

>>133085552

thanks, anon. i'll do the digging for a bit and see his style first

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>>133052282

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>>133086455
>replying to post from hours ago
>replying so late with such a pointless retort

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>>133086504
Here, this one's my favourite.

>>133066936
If I recall most of the people in the livewatch thread were satisfied with it.

Sure the wait killed the hype but the episode itself was great.

>>133076223
>Alart
every time

Is 3D/CGI considered under the umbrella of 作画 or is just 3D/CGI? Could I upload entirely 3D/CGI scenes to sakugabooru for example?

>>133089426
3D sakuga is a thing, but sakugabooru is for 2D animation. No full 3D allowed.

>>133089426
Try to ask aers at ask.fm
I think Evangelion another impact has good usage of CGI.

>>133076223
CG animation can be interesting too

>>133082029
Kek, I dropped any shows he appeared in without even knowing

So what's everyone's favorite Arasan is doing?
Haven't seen him in a while

>>133090170
Then you're not watching Dandy ?

>>133090209

>sakuga threads are suddenly full of anitwitter cancer
what happened?

>>133090209
First 3 episode were stupid so no, I didn't.

>>133090545
Then what did you watch back then ?

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Bump

https://twitter.com/id7mng_ogami/status/661419992957628416

Hmm.....

>>133047071
more like liborekt

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>>133092624

BONES COP currently inspecting this thread.
Get your shit together. /a/.

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I'm tired of these "Madhouse Best STUDIO", "Madhouse should've done this" comments t bh and yet continue to berate Kyoani and Bones as shit studios.

>>133093554
It's funny because most anime fans don't even know how this industry works and keep acting like they know.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18216/animated-artist_unknown-fighting-rakudai_kishi_no_

This is approved ? Are you kidding ?
Where's the effect and smoke tag ?

And what's the point uploading the same cuts again ?

and Dis already uploaded it :
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17823/animated-artist_unknown-effects-fighting-rakudai_k

Baker pls, do your job properly.

>>133093812
Oh, my bad, didn't realize the OP is updated.
But it should have effects and smoke tag.

>>133092247
>Trigger not animated by Trigger
Lame.

>>133093978
Trigger is busy with Okada. Don't bother them, anon.

>>133093554
To be honest, I think it's pretty offensive to go studio this studio that in a sakuga thread. A place where individual animator skill is being appreciated, fools with blind studio loyalty is almost similar to console warriors at this point.

So, how do you guys know which animator who was responsible for a certain cuts, or even know their style in the first place ?

Especially for not so famous animators.

Take example Yuuta Kiso.
I only know his name because liborek tagged his name on Noragami #5.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18174/animated-effects-fighting-noragami-noragami_aragot

But how liborek know kiso's style ?

Also, I notice his name in rakudai credits too.

Could it be one of these cuts was done by him ?
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18216/animated-artist_unknown-fighting-rakudai_kishi_no_

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17823/animated-artist_unknown-effects-fighting-rakudai_k

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17822/animated-artist_unknown-effects-fighting-rakudai_k

But I notice there's one extra animator for episode 5's OP. It's takashi ken (高橋　賢)
http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/pages/1697.html

He's also in episode 4.

But the only confirmed cuts from him is the part in Yurikuma OP.
https://youtu.be/Et0wJ7ie1HA?t=39

>the best looking animation in 2015 was seen in Peanuts movie and Hotel Transylvania 2
Japan is slipping.

>>133094296
I just brought this "studio" thing up after HeroAca's studio announcement being Bones, I guessed it was quite unfair to tell the show's gonna be shit because of misconceptions about the studio while they continue to suck Madhouse dick dry. Why can't they realize the staff is the most important part than the studio? Oh well, anime fans are stupid and refuses to learn a damn thing.

Sorry for blogging.And I'm not liborek.

>>133094656

No one REALLY knows but each animator has their own personality that comes out in each of their cuts so most of the time people can guess who did each cut

For example, this animator has a very specific kind of smear that can be seen in his scenes

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/14407/animated-fighting-morphing-parasyte-presumed-yoshi

Now compare that to http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/2989/animated-artist_unknown-hunter_x_hunter-hunter_x_h
(Booru hasn't been updated for that scene but it's him)

>>133094656
sabooga guys, I know you're reading this thread.
Pls tell me how you guys got that keen eyes.

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What's point of working as animator in Japan? It's shit job. Animators literally support their own slavery and other people abuse their retardism. They don't respect himself and their work. Meanwhile illustrators make ton's of money because they know price of art. Sometimes I feel sorry for artists who draws cool animations for shit/child shows. No one cares about their sakuga except otaku

>>133094938
Most good animators also work as illustrators. Only hacks don't. :^)

>>133094809
Just compare cuts with similarities (ex. character motion, fabric, hair, effects) and look to the episodes' credits if which animator coincides with those particular episodes. It's quite confusing but it works. Or if you can't really find out which animator did which cut, just ask somebody, preferably an animator. I learned a lot of Takuma Ebisu's style after asking Imai.

>occasional
Nah, no thanks. Let's keep sakuga thread once in awhile.

>>133094938
A love for what you do and/or dreams of moving up like any entry level poorfag talent-based work.

>>133095234
Moving up as an animator basically implies turning into a director or character designer/illustrator.

>>133094938
>What's point of working as animator in Japan?

Some people feels happy when they see their drawings move, it's just their passion different from illustrator.

>It's shit job. Animators literally support their own slavery and other people abuse their retardism. They don't respect himself and their work

Now this is just a shitpost. There's so much objective argument on this post. You might think it's really waste to work on SHIT SHOWS / CHILD SHOWS.

But how do you define shit shows ? According to your taste ?

I'm sorry but I'm not going to take your post seriously. I know the very nature of internet, and /a/.

>>133094800
>>133095130
Thanks, so the key is to notice the similarities and remember them...

Could I know how long does it take for your eyes to adapt with their styles ?

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18217/animated-character_acting-gakuen_toshi_asterisk-ma

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18218/animated-character_acting-gakuen_toshi_asterisk-ma

I don't instantly know this is Nonaka, but I notice that in those cuts the animator has a strong preference to use character movement / "bounce" and smears.

Though I think the movement in 18217 is a bit strange.

Japan really needs to improve its choreography. Why aren't there more people who can do actual fight sakuga without it being a onesided fight?

>>133095794
I don't think it's just choreography, it's also the way in which the fighting itself is written. Only long running shounen has time for actual back and forth battles. In most anime, the fighting is just a way to make MC look cool.

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Dis....

>>133095794
>>133096022
This is not the even the problem of animator.
They just make the key animation based on the SB.

And the SB is based on Script which comes from the original source (if that's an adaptation).

So there's no real meaning when you say "Japan really needs to improve..." or anything like that.

>>133095761
Yes, Nonaka's character animation's quite smeary and bouncy, exaggerated even but has that realistic touch Takeuchi and Ryo Araki often have on their works.
>http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/5645/
Probably my favorite cut of his

>>133096032
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/15306/ looks like Masayuki's desu.

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>>133095333
>Passion
They work for shit wage. While other animators in world have good wage. And they have passion too. They can stop it, but no muh fuckin Tezuka said "work hard for food"
>>133095333
It's not shit post.
>But how do you define shit shows ? According to your taste?
According to proffesional artists who don't watch haremshit and morning mahou shoujo for little girls.

>>133096022
>>133096166
But animators always take liberty in most sakuga fight scenes and make some changes. Surely they can change choreography as well if they want to, no?
And thr "Japan needs..." was a sort of meme phrase, of course there's no real meaning behind it.

>>133096641
Neat. The whole XY might even be better than the movies animation-wise.

>>133096310
>According to proffesional artists who don't watch haremshit and morning mahou shoujo for little girls.

But still, your opinion doesn't really matter. Market demands it, and you can't stop this flow called by people's demand.

If people stop buying LN and kids stop watching precure / child shows and watch J Drama instead, probably haremshit anime and mahou shoujo shows for little girls will stop being produced.

But animators will still continue to work on the next project, no matter how shit it is (according to your professional source).

I think you can make that opinion because you have a "audience" perspective, not someone who really produce / contribute to the industry. People can't eat if they don't work.

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>>133096705

Nah, just some episodes and sakuga moments.

>>133096873
Iwane's the best animator Pokemon could have.

>>133096509
But not as much as they can change the storyboard on their own. Just think about the common sense in society / workplace. You can't change others works without permission, because it can cause more problems in the production.

I think they discuss it first in the meeting before the key animators assigned of a certain shot. Probably the director will tell them what he wants from a particular shot.

Of course for "special" talent like Yuta, they will let him add whatever he thinks interesting and he can do. But I think for younger and not much experience animator they can't do that much.

Though I agree that they probably still let the animators to use their own styles (and hence we can know which animators who did a particular cuts).

>>133096715
Most of /a/ either doesn't work at all, are in school so they think they get a free pass to being naive and unemployed, or work as far up as customer service at a Walmart. Or just drawfags thinking they know about the "industry" when they've taken a countable number of tumblr commissions.

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>>133096715
But I don't understand point of good animation in child shows. Childs don't cares. People who cares gets "weird" cliche from society. And those animators will never become famous

non-cell sakuga is boring.

>>133097022
>projecting

I miss the text board. rip /anime/

Using the word "sakuga" unironically makes you sound like a hipster piece of shit. Sorry for not contributing to the thread.

>>133097223
>hipster
Post discarded

>>133097223
Should I use the word "forced animation" instead ?

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http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18036

ymkcha STRONK.
As expected of JP user.

>>133097492
ymkcha best sakugabooru user.

>>133097091
Well, although some of them won't be as famous as director. there's still a fandom that will acknowledge their work.

Usually animators make their artwork books which contains their work / indie works and sell it at Comiket or through online market.
Also, sometimes they asked to draw illustration for magazine like Newtype, etc.

There are many types of animator. The one who enjoyed to just draw cool animation like Yuta or probably try to set their directional debut.

Just like Mamoru Hosoda, he isn't a particularly talented animator like the other from his generation and he knows it very well. So he choose to become Director.

There are also some example of famous animator who became director, like Hiroyuki Okiura or Mitsuo Iso.

Mitsuo Iso is a special case because he's not only good as animator, but as a script writer, storyboarder, and even director. Go watch RahXephon episode 15 if you want to see his talent at directing.

The good thing from being animator and then debuting as director is, they can use the power of animation, for example, Dennou Coil. It's one of the best anime that really use the power of animation in the storytelling aspect.

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I'm almost certain you're talking about some going American animator who is compensating for his weeaboo past.

>>133096996
Now that I think about it, most original sources aren't detailed about its fights so it should be possible to change some stuff here and there and make a fight looks good. But if the choreography were to change from onesided (like it was supposed to) to back and forth then it would violate the canon powerlevel (which is related plot). It doesn't help that many adaptions don't have sakuga and original sources aren't that creative about how fight was handled.
Still, it would be good to have more of those.

>>133097794
Crapcakes, Dennou Coil was great.

>There's sakuga threads now
>On /a/
I wish kViN would never have opened the gates. All these normies flooding in.

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>>133098744
>now
There always were animation threads on /a/. In fact, the #sakuga channel started from an idea in the BBS sakuga threads and a lot of the twitter people come from here.
There was a period between the deleting of the BBS and now where animation threads were almost never seen, that doesn't mean these are anything new.

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What program did you use to make that webm?

>>133098744
As if /a/ posters are any worse than a bunch of 20-something attention whores who speak half in memes.