/a/ rules question.

First for Poland

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>>132401684

You know this is an Imageboard. You could post another nice picture like your Space Shuttle one when you post. It makes the thread look nicer.

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>>132401684
MODS ARE FAGS!

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:32:20 Post No.132401756
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>>132401725
You are right.
Thanks.

>>132401684
If the nipples are part of an actual scene from the anime/manga, that's OK.

Here we go.

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AWAKEN MY MASTERS!

And here we go. Someone explain it.

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>>132401684

ExHentai thread? ExHentai thread.

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>>132401756

>>132401684
The general rule we've used is that if it's official art for a non-H series and related to the discussion, then it's allowed.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:34:09 Post No.132401804
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:34:09 Post No.132401804 [Report]

>>132401759
I'm wondering how we define work safe or not?
Do we use TV Parental Guidelines or something?

>>132401684
You need to know Hiroyuki that sometimes nudity is a core element of the media (be it anime or manga) and therefore if we are to discuss its effects, its qualities and elements in the most comprehensive manner possible, we must have the freedom to post and discuss nudity.

By not allowing us to post certain content (ala nudity), you are narrowing down the amount of meaningful discussions we can have on this board and in doing so decreasing the quality of the board.

But here's the kicker Hiro. Are they allowed if they're hidden behind a spoiler?

>>132401804

If it has uncensored genitals it's not safe for work.

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Hiroyuki, there was a long standing rule that NSFW material from non-pornographic anime and manga was allowed, as to not inhibit discussion of the show.

Due to the risque (but not pornographic) nature of Valkyrie Drive, NSFW images are necessary for discussion. Banning that leads to it being impossible. Similar shows have been fine to post risque material for in the past.

>>132401804
Nipples = safe
Genitals = not safe

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>>132401792
its /a/'s fuel and dong. can't part with that man.

>>132401684
This has never really been a black and white issue on /a/, sometimes things are treated leniently if spoiled or obviously there for the discussion of the anime. Sometimes people write things that are far more not safe for work than any of the images could possibly be and are literally engaging in erotic roleplay here that has nothing to do with anime and nothing is done about it.

>>132401804
No vaginas/penises

Yes NSFW pictures, particularly ones that are obviously porn should not be posted in /a/, however, ecchi anime and manga commonly features nsfw type pictures(to love ru, queens blade, valkyrie drive) and the screenshots or manga pages of those anime and manga are generally tolerated in /a/ as it's part of the discussion, even when it's nsfw, because it's not being spammed all over.

>>132401804
There's no concrete definition of it, although nipples are usually considered not safe for work but considering it's constant presence in anime/manga, official art/screenshots should be tolerated while fan arts should not be tolerated, but that's my opinion.

>>132401804
Work-safe is something that doesn't get you fired if your boss sees it.
Non-safe for work is everything else.

Although for that matter, I would fire anybody browsing the internet and not doing their job if it were me. But that's just me.

>>132401804
The rule isn't intended to make the board actually okay to browse at work. It's intended to stop people from dumping porn instead of discussing.

>>132401804
I thought nipples were always okay, I mean it's been shown on TV after all.

>>132401804
>>132401830
this. right here my man, yes my man right here.

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ALL WINGS REPORT IN THIS IS A HIROYUKI THREAD

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>>132401804
Just to remind that there is disclaimer too so everyone is aware that boards has mature content even if it's work safe.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:37:13 Post No.132401888
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>>132401806
>certain content (ala nudity)
we have to specify which nudities are okay or not.

>>132401804
If you get in trouble at work for viewing it, then it's not safe for work.

So basically no vagina/penis, nipples have always been ok though, especially when it's official art, gif, webm, etc.

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>>132401684
> /u/ (and /e/ and /h/) are terribly underused and could use more people posting there.

im actually agree with this. /e/ has a lot archives of lewd images.

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Why don't we just use the spoiler function for NSFW images, That way everyone is a winner.

>>132401804

As far as I could remember it's always been as long as it isn't showing vag00n or p0n0s then it's fine. Even if the subject matter is risque in nature.

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>>132401684
Based mods, taking out the trash

Hiroyuki, there's a simple solution for this. Ban people posting NSFW screenshots from shows like Valkyrie Drive outside of Valkyrie Drive threads. It should be fine to post these images inside VD threads.

There's only every one VD thread on the board, so this shouldn't be a huge problem. No one sane would browse a VD thread from work.

>>132401846
Mods seem to like singling out very specific shows for whatever reason and it always causes a backlash.

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>>132401830
This

Ban it if it's porn
Let it be if it's a discussion.

>>132401684
Its not like a nipple or two will hurt anyone.
Sure if the thread become NSW image dump, rules should be enforced.

>>132401684
No you fucking retard. If it's not hentai and not showing genitals it's fine.
The mod is full of shit and is trying to force people into his shitty /u/ board.

He goes around deleting anything he doesn't like under the guise of if being "on the wrong board" but babysits his shitty homo threads and generals that haven't had anime or manga content in months.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:39:08 Post No.132401939
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>>132401840
Is there any laws or standards to judge?
As a reference.

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>>132401915

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>>132401804
it's okay to post lewd images. SOMETIMES.

that's why moot blessed us with spoiler tag

>>132401888
Actual genitalia and explicit intercourse is a no-no. Nipple nudity, especially if it's from the original content itself and not fanart, should be a-okay.

This has long been established.

As I understood it, the rule generally was that nudity that was shown in any non-h anime/manga gets a pass. Anything else was supposed to go to /h/ or /e/.

Not that I care either way, as browsing at work or school isn't very smart. Use your fucking phone at least.

>>132401830
This right here in my opinion sums it up perfectly

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>>132401684

/a/ has allowed for moderately lewd content if it pertains to a currently airing anime. For some reason, a single mod freaked out and starting banning people because Valkyrie Drive had "lewd" transformation sequences, and told everyone to go to /u/. See >>132380874

It's silly.

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Somethines things that would technically be not safe for work are posted to make a point or underscore an argument.

Take this for instance. It's posted a lot in Fate Threads. Technically there's an uncensored nipple in it and two women in carnal relations, but I've never seen it taken down as the nudity is not stressed, rather the point that one character happens to be bisexual. It's stuff like this that should be allowed on /a/, while actual smut does to the respective boards.

Hiroyuki can you respond to me please? Thanks.

>>132401888
I think official manga art or actual anime screenshot, so long as the manga/anime is not hentai, it should be fine.

Ecchi anime/manga is ok(nipples, risque pose).
Hentai is not(vagina, penetration).

>>132401888
nudity from anime/manga = ok
nudity from hentai/doujins = not ok

>>132401909
Because then we'd just become /h/ and half the board would be spoiler images. Nipples are fine as long as you spoil it though, especially considering the amount of 80-90s anime with them in it.

>>132401684
From wat I know is pics as long it's from non-pornographic anime and OVA, as long it's spoilered then it's ok because it's /a/ related. Other than that it's not.

>>132401915
>No one sane would browse 4chan from work.
Fixed, everybody who browse 4chan at work is asking for promotion blue board or not.

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>>132401888
below the waist is a disgrace, on the chest is the best.

nice trips.

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>>132401821
>>132401804
This.

Here have some safe for work art.

>>132401909
Spoiler images should work honestly if click it thats your problem to see the finest knowing the risk.

>>132401804
Just allow nipples if they are behind a spoiler and are from an ecchi show/manga. Do not allow full on porn or vagina/penis shots. Also do not allow image dump threads of nipples.

>>132401888
The rules aren't meant to make it so people can actually browse /a/ at work, but just to stop there being a permanent "post hentai of this character" thread on /a/ which has nothing to do with discussing anime.

Who in their right mind actually goes into a thread about an ecchi anime at work? Let alone browsing /a/ where someone could see it. It really isn't an issue of being able to look at it at work. It is just meant to stop /a/ becoming a dumping ground for porn and to keep that on /h/ etc.

For the amount of nudity I would say penis/vagina=no, breasts are fine.

>>132401895
/h/ was ruined thanks to weird posting policy.

>>132401939
This has always been the rule. >>132401830

>>132401939
There are American laws and standards, but they are irrelevant because they have vastly different goals. 4chan rules aren't made to protect the children, because you have to be an adult to use 4chan. American pornogorphy laws are.

Just use common sense. /a/ shouldn't be an out and out porn board but the odd lewd image from shows like this shouldn't really be a bannable offence.

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>>132401974

>>132401949

I think nipples have always been a fine line since they aren't technically genitals. So as long as it's not blatant it usually flies under the radar.

>>132401939
Depictions of sexual intercourse are prohibited, even threads like sadpanda keep it down.

Genitalia is also prohibited, however tits are fine. As long as the dick or cunt is covered the rest of the drawing can be naked, that is all.
Kissing is also okay I guess, as long as it's not extremely explicit shit like VD.

>>132401974

She's 10. A 10 year old should not have tits that big.

What has modern science wrought?

>>132401888
Porn dumps

>>132401939
It's just an unspoken rule of sorts, for the longest time it was okay as long as it's in appropriate threads.
Going into one of those threads you are aware there might be nipple shots and whatnot.

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>>132401888
How about this Hiroyuki.

We already have a image tag. This instantly tells people that by viewing that image they will be spoiled about something.

Why not create a new tag so instead of instantly showing the not safe for work image, they see another image that tells them this image will be not safe for work but they don't have to see the image itself. That shouldn't be too hard right?

So make a new /a/ that can we post unsafe pics in.

Why does /a/ need to be worksafe to begin with? Clearly the medium itself doesn't adhere to such standards, so why the fuck should an imageboard dedicated to it have to? People can freely choose whether they browse it at work or not. Seems like rule enforcing for the sake of it, I suggest admins and mods take a step back and think about why people come here in the first place.

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PLEASE NOTICE ME HIROYUKI SENPAI~

>>132401804
underage people shouldnt be on here in the first place

I would say work safe is still-shot nipples and light fondling,

Hardcore tit-suckling: nsfw

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:41:41 Post No.132402018
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>>132401862
As long as nipples were shown on TV.
It's safe to TV standards, isn't it?

>>132401974
WALMART

>>132402009

We have. It's called /h/, and /d/ and /u/

>>132401939
Everything is allowed except for handholding.

>>132402008
Well fuck I didn't expect that to happen

I was talking about the spoiler function when you upload an image. We just need another function for when you upload a nsfw image.

>>132402018
Correct.

Don't spoilers exist for a reason?

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>>132401974
>>132401999
>>132402005
>>132402023
Ups.

I wanted to post the censored version.

>>132402018
TV standards don't have the same goals as 4chan rules, but they're an okay starting point.

>>132402018
Don't listen to these guys mate,

All boards are 18+

Blue just means worksafe, so nothing ya don't want your boss seeing on them.

>>132402008
NSFW spoiler sounds like a great idea to be honest. Still image dumps of porn should be disallowed.

>>132401714
Dzień dobry, miłej niedzieli życzę

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:43:23 Post No.132402063
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>>132401890
I understand it.
nipples are not okay for your office.
talking about anime, nipples are shown on TV.
it's double standard.

>>132401939
This is ok
>>132395151

This is not
>>>/h/4083463

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>>132401957
Oh I don't mean start random threads with just full of spoiler images of porn but if it goes with the show/discussion then it should be okay.

>>132401979
Exactly, Kinda sounds like the mods just want people to use /e/ or /h/ more.

>>132402018
Yes Hiroyuki my lord.

>>132402018
Dude you live in Japan, don't you guys have like a TV block past 12:00 that's basically risque stuff?

Does VD air during that time?

>>132402018
Do they show uncensored boobs on tv? I thought it was mostly the BD? If it's an ecchi series than I think it's fair game

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Haru-chan is my waifu!

>>132402039

Mainly to hide things that would ruin plot twists and the like. Not to hide smut.

>>132402046
Thanks lad, I just got promoted

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I THINK WE SHOULD MERGE /e/ AND /h/

NOTICE ME YOU YELLOW CABBIT FUCK

>>132402018
what do TV standards have do to with an imageboard?

>>132402008
mind=blown

>>132402018
You know that cable TV has different censor rules than terrestial TV even in Japan.

>>132402045
>Nipples = bad
Fuck off.

>>132402063
its not about being ok for the office really, nobody browses /a/ at their office, its about stopping /a/ turning into a board of anime porn and keeping it about discussing anime.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:44:39 Post No.132402098
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>>132401915
It's one of solutions.
but mods are getting so busier.

>>132402063
>nipples are not okay for your office.
The post you replied to said the opposite tho.

>>132402018
Well, make sense. They even shows nipple in 18+ movie in theater . Since you need to be at least 18+ to post in this website, I guess it is ok. There's not much different isn't it?

Is that the same dumb mod who was deleting the tomboy threads a few days ago?

Fuck that guy.

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>>132401684
I was here

Why can't I make my daily remember threads anymore?? Why can't I make Best Key girl threads anymore?

Why can't I make become meguca threads? Do you want to kill 4chan culture this bad?

Would you become meguca?

>>132402076
hot

>>132402018
But nipples are nsfw. If your boss sees nipples on your screen, he immediately knows you were doing leisure things and you don't know how prudent he is.

>>132402063
Yes it is complicated but you must understand:
/a/ is not a safe for work board for people who browse while they work, it's so that anime/manga discussions do not get sidetracked into hentai image dump.

>>132402052
Well, I don't want my boss to see me viewing 10 year old cartoon girls doing lewd things in bikinis as well, even if there's no genitals.

I don't remember people having issues about post dicks kind like when goku was a kid. Since its not really sexual.

>>132402110
If your boss sees an anime character on your screen, he immediately knows you were doing leisure things.

>>132402070
It's mostly been a thing due to anime from the 80s that showed them, which is why it's an exception, or because of nip slips.

Very few anime actually do straight up show them these days. It seems like anything considered lewd though as with the VD threads, is straight up against the rules now though.

Like if I posted something from Gundam back in the day with a nip, I'd probably get banned, even though I never would have before.

Everything is allowed except penises and vaginas or full on sex.

Just use spoilers for female nipples or breast fondling I guess

>>132402063
Global rule #2: You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

Nobody in their right mind should browse a website that requires you to be 18 and older in public or at their workplace.
SFW does not actually mean it's safe to browse at work.

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>>132402063
The moment you browse /a/ at your workplace you have already lost.

Speaking out of experience.

>>132402128
You shouldn't be on /a/ during work anyways.

>>132402063

Frankly if you are browsing /a/ at work you are in trouble regardless of the nudity. What most people are concerned about is nudity on their mobiles in public places. Breasts you can sorta get away with but when you have the penis and vagina popping out on screen and others see it you may cause a scene.

>>132401684
genitalia must be strictly forbidden on blue imageboards. period.......

>>132402070
Game of Thrones showed them a lot.

>>132402062
goddamn disgusting slavshit

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>>132401804

>work safe

What if we work in a graphic/lewd environment for a job?

>>132402123

Moe is dead.

>>132402098
They should also be spoilered so its still kinda SFW

>>132402098
You're approaching this from the wrong angle. Think about what the rule is trying to achieve, rather than what it is. Then you'll know what the specifics of the enforcement should be.

>>132401830
This makes the most sense. The point of banning NSFW content is to make sure this is still a discussion board.

If you say 'it's allowed with spoilers', then you end up with threads full of spoiled NSFW pictures and no content.

If you say 'no nudity allowed what so ever', then lots of shows will be forced to move to image dump boards just for discussion. /a/ should be used for all anime discussion, anything that did or could air on TV in japan is a rough guideline.

The term "NSFW", or 'not safe for work', is meant to describe nudity, not to describe boards you would actually browse in public. Nothing on 4chan is safe for work, there's no sense in complaining that you 'accidentally' saw a bad image in a blue board. That's dumb.

The key to this rule working is it comes down to moderator discretion. They have to be smart enough to know when an image or set of images is derailing the thread from discussion and when it's not. I haven't seen the threads in question but it sounds like the mod mentioned in the OP isn't doing this correctly.

Hi hiro!

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:47:25 Post No.132402172
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>>132402065
I think TV screenshots might be okay.

It shouldn't matter, anyone caught browsing 4chan at work would probably be fired anyway, regardless of NSFW content

>>132402008
I think that's a pretty good idea.

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So is this now a bannable offense? We can't talk about Berserk anymore?

>>132402098
The get new ones, people have been fed up with the current mods for awhile now. It feels like living in China, awful.

>>132402143
You seem misunderstood or even lost, please lurk more before posting in these threads.

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>Wake up
>Admin thread
>It's not Moot
It wil take some time to get used to this

PROMOTIONS

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>>132402018
based hiro

>>132402172
why is the rule there?
think about that and enforce accordingly

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>>132401684
any screenshots form non-H anime is allowed (e.g to love ru) and it has always been like this.

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Just for your information Hiro, this is the kind of thing being banned. And it's the most extreme example in the show.

There's no genitals being shown, I really don't think it should be a big deal.

>>132401804
American TV:
>Broadcast channels
>no nipples

>Basic cable
>can have nipples, but generally doesn't

>Premium channels
>nipples and genitals

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>>132402008
My vote goes to this.

This is actually a great idea and everyone wins.

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>>132402018
Wait, so if I post anime's screenshot which air in uncensored TV (like ATX) then it's safe to post here?

>>132402196
>Wake up
>Admin thread
>It's broken english
Oh it'll take some time alright.

>>132401888
If it's from official material and is not HENTAI or PORN it should be OKAY.

For example, To Love-ru images by Kentarou Yabuki are okay, but TLR (nude) fan art is a no no that belongs on /e/.

I used TLR as an example because it is one of most popular franchises on /a/.

>>132401684
Why was I banned for replyiong "ebin" to a meme ban? Are only mods allowed to make ebin shitposts?

>>132402107
>deleting a tomboy thread

That sick fuck. It probably is, he's probably also the same mod that deleted the Ryuko KLK threads back then too, which caused a lot of shit too, granted they did belong elsewhere, since they turned into daily generals, but dude seems to just like gunning for very specific things, considering some of the daily general shit we have constantly.

>>132401804
>>132401888

If it's a screenshot/gif/webm taken directly from an anime it should be allowed.

If it's nude fanart from Pixiv or HF or wherever else it shouldn't be allowed.

That's easy to understand for posters and janitors/mods because there's no personal interpretation.

Even better would be to add a NSFW tag besides spoiler tags so people know when a screenshot/gif/webm will contain certain content.

>>132402098
Another possible solution would be adding a NSFW tag, just like we have one for spoilers. This way, NSFW but still non-pornographic content could be posted and people would be warned to not open those posts if they're in any situation where looking at NSFW content would be unadvised.
Also, someone earlier on said how things should be about as perfectly as the mod from >>132401830:
>The rule should just be:
>Is it actually screenshots from the anime? It's allowed.
>Is it 3rd party pornographic fanart? It's not allowed.

>>132402172
What about uncensored ones from the BD release? I can see that making issues.

>>132402173
4chan would be least of your problems if you have enough time to browse boards at work.

>>132402172
Why don't you hand the site over to someone who has a fucking clue?
Who's actually familiar with the site?
Who knows that /q/ was a fucking retarded idea and you're just repeating the same mistake?

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This is 4chan, it's not supposed to be 100% sfw, so basically just spoiler all the nsfw stuff and add a spoilertag that marks that it is nfsw and anyone not using it correctly gets banned

>>132402206
To be fair, that pretty much looks like an H scene. This is being aired on broadcast TV in japan?

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>>132402008
>>132402034
Here's what I mean

So on the top we've got our existing spoiler image, clicking on that reveals the spoiled content.

And then on the bottom I did a test of a nsfw image tag so you know that by clicking the image you'll be voluntarily viewing not safe for work images.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:50:11 Post No.132402247
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>>132402068
Valkyrie drive shows on TV at mid night.
it's okay to TV standard.
http://valkyriedrive.jp/anime/onair/

>>132401888
>>132401939

If there's just nipples, it should be fine, even if they're being grabbed. Even boys have nipples.

The only thing that is inappropriate is erect penis or vagina, unless it's part of a joke.

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What about this? Is this workplace safe?

The hypocricy in this place is stunning.

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>>132402172
Yes, this has always been okay.

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I appreciate that you actually came here to ask the community, Hiro. I know it doesn't seem like much on your end, but it really means a lot to me personally. Thank you.

>>132402172
Yes, if it is an actual anime, like Valkyrie Drive and not hentai, like, say, Boku no Pico.

Understand that "safe for work" is not meant to be taken literally, it does not mean people should browse /a/ while they work, it just means that images on /a/ should pertain to the discussion of anime or manga, and in the case of ecchi anime like Valkyrie Drive, screenshots of the show with nipples in them is ok, but erotic fan art with bare nipples and vagina is not.

>>132401888
Traditionally, it's fine as long as it's not hentai.

But >>132402008 works too, I guess.

Anyway, the incident this time was a mistake on that mod's part.

>>132402008
Yeah, like a TRIGGER WARNING.

>>132402032
Oh yeah? Go to /h/ and try to actually discuss anything. I've seen people get banned for trying to discuss hentai; they rationalize it by saying /h/ is only for dumping pictures. What a load of shit.

>>132402172
NSFW on 4chan just means THIS BOARD IS NOT WHERE YOU POST PORN.

You want to fix it Hiro, get rid of Troid and the other bad mods and janitors. They don't enforce anything on any of the boards and use their power for whatever they deem as unnecessary to delete/ban/etc.

>>132402244
this

Why not just turn /a/ into NSFW board?

>>132402247
Does this mean we won?

>>132402172
Yes.

TV screenshots are posted in Shinmai and Valkyrie Drive threads all the time and it's part of the plot so it should be allowed.

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>>132401888

Okay Hiro, "first for Poland" post aside, there's a distinction to make.

Material coming from regular published manga not revealing genitals in full or depicting actual sex is work-safe and belongs to /a/. That includes fan art of the same quality.

Threads on /e/ differ in that they mostly disregard the talk about the specific anime/manga series and concentrate on characters instead. The range of material stays the same as on /a/, though.

Material from adult doujinshi and h-manga/anime belongs on /h/.

Fan art showing genitals in full, or sex (and not fondling, licking etc) belong on /h/.

Threads on /u/ are similar in spirit to /e/, but they limit themselves to yuri and can accept hentai.

There's an increasing amount of fanservice surfacing in recent shows. However, it's not possible to split the group. As others say, it's a slippery slope.
Consider this picture from To Love Ru: Darkness. It's a regularly published manga in Jump Square. The genitals aren't revealed in full, and it doesn't depict straight on sex. Thus, it belongs to /a/.

>>132402261
>trigger warning
go back to /v/

>>132402247
thanks for the site, I have never seen it before

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If you were caught looking at this at work, you'd be fired on the spot. Yet this is considered "safe for work" by 4chan's standards, because there is no nudity and it's not a sexual situation.

Do you see how dumb this all is?

>>132402276
Fuck off crack-kun

>>132402212
Only the FBI has those posts, they are too old.
The personal admin archive to sell the posts was started when hiroyuki went into power.

>>132402248
What about threads that are made solely for the purpose of dumping images and talking about "muh dick" even if they're relatively safe for /a/'s standards? These are the kind of threads that should belong in /e/ or /h/ so the boards are actually used.

>>132402281
To prevent porn dumps.

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The idea that no nipples or vaginas makes something "work safe" always seemed odd to me.

Pic is "work safe" but I wouldn't feel comfortable looking at it at work.

>>132402281
Because it would just be flooded with porn.

>>132402244
>>132402244
>>132402244
>>132402244
>>132402244
>>132402244
This, while disallowing porn dumps.

>>132402247
So you do understand.
Thank you.

>>132402281
Then it becomes an image dump.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:52:32 Post No.132402319
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>>132402087
with references. we can easily judge.
Vague rules make arguments.

>>132402244
That's not necessary. You already have to be an adult to use 4chan and nobody gives a fuck about tagging things that are going to "trigger" some random asshole.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:52:49 Post No.132402326
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>>132402090
yes, you are right.

>>132402008
How about just reveal the image's name instead of "spoiler image"? So the poster needs to name the image NSFW

>>132402244
Actually sounds pretty good

>>132402252
Depends on region. In 'murrica that would be fine, but sex is EVIL unless it's shitty fanfiction over here.

>>132402172
What about when the show is censored on normal channels and uncensored on premium channels like AT-X?

>>132401684
NSFW should be allowed if censored. It is that simple. People were doing this for years before faggots decided to fag.

>>132401684
I think that as long as you say it's nsfw and hide it using the spoiler tag it should be alright.

>>132402098
Hiroyuki sempai, how do the mods determine what is /m/ (mecha) and what is not?

Why do we have tokusatsu on /m/? Shouldn't it go to /tv/ or a /toku/ board (like 2chan)?

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I propose this for lewd spoiler

>>132402242
That's on par for any ecchi show. DxD, Qwaser, and so on, all had breast groping scenes.

>>132402314
It's already imagedump board.

>>132402297
You really think Troid and the rest of the faggot ass mods are doing their job properly? Look at half the fucking boards on 4chan, they're a goddamn mess of shit against the rules or plain up shitposting, and Troid is by far the worst one at enforcing any amount of shit. All he enforces is shit that he personally doesn't like, while keeping shit that should be banned that he likes.

Is it an aring anime or thread discussing the show?
Okay as long as it gets spoilered

Is it hentai?
take it to /h/, with the occassional hentai we always have spoilering stufff
Just don't allow more generals besides the buyfag and sadpanda and that's it

>>132402247
However the /e/ board also exists.

>>132402319
This is very reasonable then >>132402291

>>132402319
I'm sorry, I don't understand.
I mean, really as long as there's no penis or vagina present it should be fine, though.

>>132402289
Not yet. We need to make it 100% absolutely sure, understood and confirmed that as long as it's not hentai, it's fine. Nipples and other ecchi stuff should be fine.

>>132402319
As long it's not hentai, it should be alright.

>>132402206
undressing? intent to pleasure without whatever weird context? yeah that's overdone

>>132402008
This.
It should allow people to post NSFW images without them being self-censored, too.

>>132402337
I meant if spoilered. Spoiler NSFW pics and everything should be fine, like it was years ago! The site is 18+ anyway!

>>132402342
You can make Initial D threads on /m/ as it is a show about cars, which are mechanic
Anything about mechas (mechanics) goes

>autists actually wanting to turn /a/ into /e/
I don't understand this mental disorder people have here. If we already have 2 fucking boards for this, why do you want to post NTFW (as the own meaning this has) here?

>>132402319
>>132402326
Can't we just add like an NSFW option or something else? Just removing anime threads that center heavily around hentai is pretty extreme.

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>>132402344
I second this proposal.

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So, hiro.
Is this NSFW or SFW?

>>132402352
He is constantly banning you, so yes he is doing a good job.

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TV nipples

>>132402096
[shivering intensifies]

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REMOVE TROID

>>132402303
work safe in the 4chan context has alywas just meant not for porn dumps, only an idiot would browse 4chan on any board at their workplace.

I wonder how m00t feels after giving this website to someone who has no idea how to run it.

>>132402376
Why not just post NSFW images in /e/ or /h/ instead?

>>132402123
I wish you autistic samefagging ban evader would just get struck by lightning or something. I trust the evidence of you shitting up every thread.

>>132402344
I'm in agreement.

>>132402319
From an actual anime = okay
Fanart = not okay

That makes it easy to understand for everyone.

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>>132402344
>Not a SOX logo

>>132402383
Because you are new as shit. People were posting NSFW years ago just fine. We came to agreement to just spoiler it, so there wouldn't be promotions and stuff.

>>132402319
Just make it so that HENTAI source material and PORN source material (ie fan art) is not allowed, but ACTUAL source material (ie screencaps and manga pages) are.

>>132402383
>>autists actually wanting to turn /a/ into /e/
Because people come here for anime like Shinmai Maou, which is in-between the two?

>>132402123
You need to update links

>>132402380
that doesn't make sense.

it should have been about robots, and nothing else.

>>132402355
Which is an imagedump board where discussion is unadvised.
Also, forcing specific genres of anime to certain boards would be kind of extremely dumb.

>>132402319
The general guideline is:
>It's official art from the non-hentai manga/anime/light novel
It's ok.

>>132402393
Spoiler that shit.

>>132402376
>>132402008
You know what's hilarious? The spoiler tag has never actually been used for legitimate spoilers. Board culture across 4chan doesn't give a shit about spoiling things for anyone, and mods/janitors never ban or delete anything that's an untagged spoiler.

Spoiler text and tags are used solely for dramatic effect and NSFW material.

>>132402421
Mecha does not stand for robot.

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>>132402255
I think if the show that has these lewd images or scenes its fair to post them within discussion, If you're just gonna endlessly spam porn or lewd fan art then that shit shouldn't be allowed.

Please just leave he rules the same as they have always been.

>>132402383
Nobody wants to turn /a/ into /e/. We just want to keep how /a/ has always been. We've always been able to post nips and lewd scenes from animu/mango, whether it's a gif, webm, png, jpg, or whatever. As long as it wasn't straight up hentai or had exposed vagina/penis.

>>132402383
We don't want an image dump board, we just wan't to post the lewd images from anime while we discuss it. Especially when it is a currently airing show.

>>132402344
Fucking yes

REMOVE TROID PLS
BOOT OUT MOOT'S SJW FRIENDS

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>butthurt mongoloids constantly complain about random shit and that retarded attention seeking butthurt chink who works objectively shittily isn't going to fix anything and he only wants attention
It feels objectively incredible to not care about that retarded drama.

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Why would you browse a valkyrie drive thread if you're at work? Is like you're asking to get promoted.
In these kind of threads the no-lewd policy should be more premissive.

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>>132402393
>nipples are NSFW
>TV nipples aren't
HIROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>132401684
>>132401804

Basically this: >>132401830 . The criterion is if the anime is pornography or not; the actual content of the image is irrelevant, so long as it's from an actual anime and that anime is not pornography.

How do we define pornography? That's a tricky one, and a problem the best minds of the US government have not been able to solve beyond "I will know it when I see it".

But I'd suggest that any show being aired and promoted by Funimation probably isn't pornography.

>>132402326
What's your opinion on nsfw Hiro, you never mentioned that in your posts

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>Actually wanting more tag

Yeah, because people here are known to used them correctly right?

>>132402400
He stopped caring ages ago Anon. Hiro may not know what he's doing quite yet, but at least he's trying. More than we could say for Moot in years.

>>132402303
4chan is not safe for work. Please understand.

>>132402319
It's impossible to word the current accepted rules without mentioning 'moderator discretion' at some point.

You have to emphasize the 'spirit of the rules'. That is, this is a discussion board, images posted should be part of the discussion, the discussion should not revolve around the images.

>>132402440
>>132402441
See posts like these.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:57:28 Post No.132402476
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>>132402236
May I see samples?

>>132402383

Me neither, it's the worst idea ever.

Anime is full of hot girls, so a board about anime is going to be full of hot girls, but allowing nudity is just going to turn this place into porn dumps in which case go to /e/ or /h/.

Leave things as they are. If it isn't broken don't fix it.

>>132402383
This happened because VD hasn't been able to have discussion without deletions which started controversy.

/e/ is for image dumps, not discussion.

Despite popular belief, people do like discussing the plot of ecchi anime, which is usually included with posting screencaps/webms.

>>132402400
He's doing a better job than moot, when did we ever get consulted about how we wanted our community to be run then? It was just "these are the rules now if you don't like it fuck off" before.

Friendly reminder that this site is even worse than before and not better than reddit

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>moot never responded to you
>Hiro never has and never will either

>>132402344

Perfect.

>>132402476
see >>132402244

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Lewd specific spoiler tag is a great idea. Let's make it happen.

Why is it not public which mod bans which posts?

>>132402476
Keep things the same as they have always been. Don't change the rules because one mod on a power trip decided he wanted to change something.

>>132402401
Because those are imagedump boards.
Posting a pixiv lewd or a doujin sreenshot should be fine with the tag, unless you dump them, and it was fine years ago.

>>132402476
Just check the archive Cross Ange threads. Oh wait.

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>>132402476

>>132402244
>>132402312
agreed.

Simple solution.

>>132402471
This
I can't wait to the new tag to be used to the handholding meme.

>>132401840
NO, this will means i cant browser /a/ in public
/a/ becomes degenerated shithole from day to days

I never understood why 4chan does some nsfw and sfw. Why not make all boards the same color so don't have to deal with this crap. Or just make a better tag system for nsfw.

>>132402520
kek

>>132402507
Mods should be just as anonymous as everyone else, fuck off.

Can we please have sadpanda threads without the fakku shilling and people getting banned for posting fakku rip torrents?

thanks

>>132402436
it does in japan and in the west. when talking about anime, japanese clearly means robots, but when they talk about any appliances, they meant any mecha.

the giant robot board in 2chan is /robo/ so i'm sure that's what /m/ was originally going to be.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:59:22 Post No.132402546
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>>132402259
>"safe for work" is not meant to be taken literally,
I understand it.

I would like to know everyone understand it as you say?

Hiro you god damn cunt, why don't you fix shit that actually needs fixing?

>>132402476
Hiro-sama, make NSFW acceptable if spoilered! The site is 18+! It was like this years ago!

>>132402476
do this >>132402344

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>>132402501
This.

>>132402476

Won't we be banned if they're against the rules?

>>132402469
>How do we define pornography?
Can you see any p〇n〇s or vag〇〇? If yes, it is pornography?
If no, then it isn't. Simplest definition possible.

>>132402344
We should have a small rotation of images. Just to keep it fun.

>>132402062

Też ją sobie umil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFK21oHzko

>>132402476

This is from a BD of Shinmai Maou, not porn or hentai and should be allowed.

>>132335870

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Aren't we fine as we are?

Just allow Valkyrie Drive lewd as long as it is spoilered.

It's not the first ecchi anime we experience, the mod was more against lesbians that actual tits for the looks of it

We were fine with DxD, Queen's Blade, Seikon no Qwaser, Lades vs Butlers etc etc etc.
and even with BD releases later

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 11:59:56 Post No.132402575
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>>132402336
Let me see samples?

>>132402529
Idiot, that's what 4chan as a whole was like. If anything, the site has been getting cleaner and softer over the years.

Why people post on 4chan at work is beyond me.

>>132402546
People that don't understand it like that have not been here long enough to understand.

You could mention the true meaning of "SFW" and "NSFW" in the rules to help.

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>>132402476

>>132401684
Please I beg you eliminate generals and clearly circlejerking threads.

Overlord was finished long ago. There's nothing to discuss anymore as there are no daily (not even weekly) translations but they keep it as generals.
Also cancerous newfags conglomerates threads as 3x3 threads. Everyone who post in these nowadays know each other from MAL or something (or even facebook) and come here to circlejerk (which is forbidden in /a/, they should go to /soc/) and no one can stand it anymore.

Please read this Hiro.

>>132402532
Again, it's so boards like /a/ where actual discussion happens don't get flooded with imagedumps.

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>>132402344
>>132402008
Any of these should happen, They're quick and simple, The board doesn't change much either.


Basically put - If it's in the show it should be spoilered up with the lewd tag and be able to be discussed.

Dumping stuff that hasn't happened in the show like porn art or whatever is not allowed.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 12:00:35 Post No.132402597
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>>132402008
image tag?

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Stuff like this should be allowed since it´s part of an sfw anime. That´s how it´s always been right?
I don´t see a problem with it as long as it´s not "porn".

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 12:00:39 Post No.132402600
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>>132402008
image tag?

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>>132402575
Valkyrie Drive, episode 1.

>>132401939

The general idea of NSFW and SFW is if you would get in trouble from the average person if they saw you browsing it while walking by, in practice SFW stuff is basically no porn or nudity.

>>132402008

I'm for this though, there's things that need to be posted but happen to have varying degrees of nudity, like a new chapter of berserk or whatever.

>>132402523
well if youve ever read prison school youd know how lewd handholding can get

>>132402546
Everyone understands it this way, except the mods apparently.

>being triggered by nipples so much you start banning people for posting them
Wow, what is this, tumblr? Fucking american degenerates.

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>>132402018
So I can post AT-X webms like this one?

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>>132401714

>>132402575
Do you even watch anime?
Please kill yourself.

>>132402532
>I never understood why 4chan does some nsfw and sfw.
Because porn can drown out the rest of the board. Example being how a /wsg/ was made because of how /gif/ was just all porn and people wanted to be able to see threads not just porn.

>>132401974
YOU FUCKING SEE THIS MOD
BAN BAN BAN
PLS BE BAN

>>132402415
(am I fitting in yet)

The thread is about the show? Open images
Other threads? Spoilered image.

That's what I do.

>>132402393
This is allowed?

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>>132402476

>>132402575
I want to but I'm afraid you'll ban me.

>>132402597
>>132402600

see >>132402244
notice me senpai

>>132402610
>posting nipples
No anon, you are the American degenerate.

>>132402546
The simplest way is just this: Is it hentai? If yes, not allowed.
Ecchi, even if it includes nipples or groping, have always been fine.

>>132402005
That pic doesn't specify which Iliya is that, so she could very well be the onee-san legal version

>>132401684
Now for personal opinion time: the rules need to change, the rules feel oppressive, and when rules are being selectively enforced (like these are) it leads to corruption, and it leads away from the ideal that everyone here is equal and anonymous.

There are a load of recurring threads here that utterly disregard the SFW rule, in particular the "sadpanda" ones.

The de-facto rule seems to be "you can't post lewd things, unless it's spoilered and it's something the mods like".

This isn't sustainable.

4chan is not in any way safe for work anyway, minors are banned from 4chan, and the culture of /a/ is not safe for work. The rules need to change to accommodate the people, not the other way round.

>>132402329
People wont do it.

>>132402008
The point of not allowing NSFW posting isn't to stop people being shocked and offended by vaginas. It's to stop discussion boards from becoming filled up with porn.

>>132401684
/ar/ when?

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 12:02:13 Post No.132402654
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>>132402207
>American TV:
>>Broadcast channels
>>no nipples
>>Basic cable
>>can have nipples, but generally doesn't

Do we use Basic cable standard?

>>132402597
He means the spoiler image tag.

It would be good to also have a NSFW image tag.

>>132402597
You know how there's a spoiler box you check when posting images.
What they're suggesting is that there be a similar "lewd" one.

I miss moot.
This guy is incompetent as fuck.

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>>132402548
He's just a retarded attention seeking butthurt chink who works objectively shittily and he only wants attention.

>>132402494
;_;

>>132401853
I feel like you lose your expectation of a work safe internet when you're on 4chan.
Browsing a work safe board makes it less likely you'll see cocks, but you're always liable to see cocks here.

That being said, if it's a Screencap from Valkyrie drive and it was legit broadcast on TV then its nonpornographic and should be allowed on /a/

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>>132402600
As in function, this thing I've marked in the image

We just need another one that says "nsfw" so people will know what each does

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>>132402046

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Hiroyuki

What part of japan were you born in?

>>132402008
NO, /a/ will be low intelligence discussion if we do this.

>>132402546
People who have been on the board for some time do understand this. Maybe the rule needs to be reworded though. It's really about stopping porn dumps from overtaking discussion rather than a blanket ban on sexual images.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 12:02:57 Post No.132402691
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>>132402213

>Premium channels
>nipples and genitals
these are NSW. I misunderstood it. sorry.

>>132402575
Someone posted a good example already: >>132402612

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>>132402600
>>132402597
He means the spoiler tag, like this

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>>132402532
This please!

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>>132402529
>i cant browser /a/ in public

>Everyone hates Hiro now
B-but he's cute like bunny

>>132402676
>so people will know what each does
The fucking irony.

People still don't know what spoiler tag does.

>>132402523
>>132402471

So what if they abuse the tags? Anime girls holding hands will be posted as lewd?

Not much of an inconvenience.

>>132402588
sora is such a best

>>132402530
>Here's the thing, you are from tumblr
No, you are. You’re the one complaining about hurt feelings of fictional characters.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-18 12:03:39 Post No.132402707
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>>132402215
>For example, To Love-ru images by Kentarou Yabuki are okay, but TLR (nude) fan art is a no no that belongs on /e/.

yep. it's clear.

>>132402626
Sorry to disappoint you, but it is true. People before were able to post a full doujin with no problem and no one gived two shits. It just that now we are expected to pander to normalfags and little kids that are afraid of their parents seeing anime sluts.

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>>132402244
This is the way to go.

>>132402671
I think he was talking more about the kneejerk reaction to something that has always been here.

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>>132402409
>not the best girl logo

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>>132402632
L-lewd

>>132402654
We use the standards set by the advertisers.

That's why there are different ads on red and blue boards.

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>>132402654
>MURIKA STANDARTS

NO!

GO KILL YOURSELF RIGHT NOW YOU PICE OF SHIT!