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Why is everything about Seraph of the End so bland? It's like the most generic anime I ever saw. Who the hell thought it's a good idea to make a series so goddamn generic in every way?

Girls are still cute though.
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>>125014561
Don't need plot when best girl is carrying the show
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>>125014561
I want to do things to Guren and Shinoa
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>>125014561
Came for the snazzy uniforms, stayed for the smugdere
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OP/ED are good though.
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>>125014561
>Meiji-era-inspired uniforms
Is this anime/manga subtly nationalistic?
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>>125014561
I think you need to define "generic" a bit more specifically before we can discuss your claim, OP.
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>>125014561
At least it's not trying to be some super serious or deep show about human civilization or some shit.

It's a battle shounen and it knows that it is one.

It might be generic but a completely generic show is better than something that tries to be something amazing and utterly fails.
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Still better shounen than kekkai sensen, even if normalfag hipsters get butthurt about it.
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>>125015773
Keep telling yourself that buddy.
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>>125015773
>At least it's not trying to be some super serious
Have you read the manga? It's 100% serious. They even have human conspiracies flying around trying to make the vampires look better.
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>>125015926
Not him but what's wrong with that? I watch xebec shows for the tits and asses not for the social commentary on crime and policing
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>>125015656
>Is this anime/manga subtly nationalistic?

You say that as it's is a bad thing.
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>>125015926
According to my book a show that knows what it is and doesn't try to be anything more is better than something that does exactly that and completely fails at it.

Sure, the first option is less interesting but it mostly doesn't end as complete failure.
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>>125015996

At this point I'm starting to think that vamps are the good guys here.
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>>125015391

I want a lesbo vampire to rape her while drinking her blood.
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>>125015656
Of course it is, they are Japs trying to rebuild their nation.
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>>125016089

Krul did nothing wrong.
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>>125016089
Really. It seems like the vampires are just trying to pick up the pieces from the humans and survive.
I generally root for the good guys in any media but this time around its hard, since the vampires gave them shelter and good and protection in exchange for their blood, even if the vampires are extremely racist.
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>>125016197
Those damn fairhaired blood suckers used a doomsday weapon to wipe out everyone of fighting age, and enslaved the remnants and our youth while trying to overwrite our culture with their own! They also speak latin and english, because subtlety!
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>>125016330

It's the humans who created the virus though.
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>>125016282
Root for the home team.
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>>125016402
All the "humans" in the series are Japanese.

Clearly, if you're not from nippon, you're not human.
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So anyways, how do humans even stand any chance when a 13th progenitor like Crowley is raping their top soldiers like it was nothing?
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it's Devil Summoner
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>>125017043
Seraph would be good if was a SMT game.
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>>125014561
Why don't they use guns, tanks, jet fighters?
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>>125016794
The elevens who eat this shit up have no problem believing that.
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I actually dropped it during the preview for the second episode.

First episode was fine. Getting any sort of high school involved was not.
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>>125014561
>generic
Like most of /a/, I'm pretty sure you have no idea what generic means.
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>>125015656
It's actually heavily implied that the Jap nationalists are the ones responsible for the virus which killed everyone, as well as being responsible for a bunch of human experimentation which will possibly kill everyone in the world. Their leadership is irredeemably fucked up, evil, with little regard for human life. At this point in the manga they are presented as ultimately being worse than the vampires.
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>>125017852
Neat, thanks.
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>>125017787
Literally everything this show does has already been done a million other times and better, how is it not generic?
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>>125017961
Name five.
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>>125018015
Hold up buckaroo, I haven't watched that many anime.
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>>125015656
No. How dare you.
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>>125018054
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>>125017885
>that cute bate buddy hovering to her right
$50 says it has a retarded voice and is a gag character.
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>>125014561
It has a very slow beginning but the manga has actually been getting pretty interesting lately.
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>>125014561
What a generic post
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>>125017885
How the fuck does she spin like that?
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>>125018132
Vampire physics magic science. Don't ask.
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>>125018132
Peoples do it all the time
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>>125014561
i cant remember the last time i saw a manga with the same premise.

On the other hand i have seen at least 3 IS ripoffs and 4 "demon king loses his/her powers and has to live as a human, what a TWIST!" series.
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>>125018040
Clearly. Thanks /v/.
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from what I've watched it's basically a AoT clone.

>secluded from bad guys
>training to beat bad guys
>more training
>fight
>end in BL

I guess the last bit is a little different from AoT though.
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>>125018015
You can't be serious.

>>125018054
I can't wait to see how he rationalizes this.
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>>125015656
Does it matter when meiji-era uniforms are cool as fuck?
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The series has a lot of these generic scenes that aren't suppose to be taken at face value.
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>>125018287
They're also the Imperial Japanese Army and have a nobility and a king, which has some implications.
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where the FUCK can i find the LN?
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>>125018267
>>secluded from bad guys
>>training to beat bad guys
>>more training
>>fight
>>end in BL
I'd have no idea what series you are talking about if you didn't mention AoT
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I thought I was watching Yaoi no Exorcist for a second
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>>125018267
the fuck? AOT is a thriller show where they refuse to tell you anything and the enemies they fight are a mixture of human-titan hybrids and mindless titans.

the two shows are not even remotely the same.
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>>125018501
>Screw you
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>>125018281
>You can't be serious.
Why would I not be? If it's so generic, then naming as little as five series with the same idea should be a very simple task, no?
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>>125018520
They really have a very similar premise and atmosphere. I know if I generalized it you would just say some shit like "a lot of anime is like that", so i'm not going to bother. I think a lot of people see it so I don't feel compelled to argue with you.
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>>125018520
>same premise(like many animes have)
>replace unknown big monster guys with vampires
>other people can turn into monsters replaced with demonic posession

voila. the same.
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>>125018623
Wrong board.
Here you go >>>/b/
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>>125014561
>the most generic anime I ever saw
>girls are still cute though.
80% of modern anime in a nutshell
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>>125018632
>similar premise and atmosphere
No and no.
>if I generalized
You already generalized almost to the point of absurdity.
>I think a lot of people see it so I don't feel compelled to argue with you.
"Imaginary people agree with me; I win". If you don't feel compelled to argue why are you even bothering with a response in the first place? You're just too insecure not to have the last word on an anonymous imageboard.
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>>125018546
The basic scenario is exactly like SnK. Bad thing happens to humanity, now humans live in confined, walled cities and must use special techniques and weapons in order to defeat much more powerful enemies. Main character has berserker powers that make him significantly stronger and able to stand up to the enemies.

All of the characters, except for Shinoa, are very similar to charaters from other shows. You have the pussy, good natured friend character, the generic tough guy rival, homolust, etc. The protagonist et al have special, super cool weapons like in half of every shonen ever.

Like, I'm having a hard time of thinking of things about the show that are generic because you can point at literally everything.
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>>125018826
>Bad thing happens to humanity, now humans live in confined, walled cities and must use special techniques and weapons in order to defeat much more powerful enemies.
That is very broad.
>Main character has berserker powers that make him significantly stronger and able to stand up to the enemies.
I'll give you that. You have one, four more to go.
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>>125018814
I'm not the same person who was originally posting. That was my first post in the thread. With that said, i've seen the opinion parroted many times and I have to agree.

If I had to put my finger on the key similarities though it would be the "haven in post-apoc" setting, the face that the Yuu and Eren are nearly identical, and the similarities between Yuu/Guren relationship and the Eren/Levi relationship. Both of these are quite heavy focuses of the works so they feel remarkably similar. All in all, I actually think SnK did it better before it went to shit.
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>>125014561
Generic is too generic a claim anon. Everyone has differing opinion on what is generic.

Same goes for the authors.

I, for example, find all SOL boring and generic.
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>>125018958
>"haven in post-apoc" setting
SnK wasn't the one who started that though. That is a very widely used setting.
Yuu and Eren are really similar, but vampires and titans are nothing alike.
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It's a tried and true formula; nothing wrong with that. As long as it's entertaining I don't give a fuck.
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>>125018686
you are comparing a thriller with a shounen action show and saying they are the same.

I can do this too, watch this.

>main cast is a normal guy who got involved with criminals by chance
>the criminals are not completely bad but are "gray" criminals
>they break the law but dont go out their way to hurt innocents and often fight even worse criminals
>one of the criminals is young but a really talented killer with a mysterious past
>the MC often finds himself questioning whether he is doing the right thing

Guess how many series i just described.
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>>125018958
>the face that the Yuu and Eren are nearly identical
In that they want to "Kill all them vampires/titans", sure, but Yuu is an amiable idiot while Eren is a frustrated dick.
>the similarities between Yuu/Guren relationship and the Eren/Levi relationship
The same thing applies here.
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>>125018926
Its really not difficult. In addition to the three I just mentioned, both ended up going with the: "the humans in [haven] are even worse than the monsters!" cliche.

Both pull the: "We have to use the enemy's evil power against them!" schtick. Both have the protag having a secret super important backstory thats thinly hinted at despite the ostensibly ultra-generic (not meta generic but in-setting-generic) backstory. (Yuu=Seraph Eren = Prince; or something? I dunno I dropped it.)


At the end of the day i'd call it about 75%SNK + 25% Ao no Exorcist.
>>125019110
Ya, but the Horsemen are basically titans.
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>>125018926
>humans live in isolation due to the power difference between a regular person and big bad monsters.
>something "happened" in the past to lower the human population of the world to just a handful which the story focuses on.
>group goes to school to learn how to fight monsters and be heroes
>someone dies
>hero character emerges and kills monsters

checkmate
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>>125017653
Useless against vampiresl
The vampires however use those against the humans.
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>>125018686
Except Eren a shit and Yu is somewhat likable
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>>125019360
They actually can use guns but don't for reasons.
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>>125019395
Honestly I can't stand either one. I really wish the pink haired dickbag was the MC.
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>>125014561
I just need two things when I watch Seraph of the Trainwreck:
-Shinoa voice
-cute vampire girls doing vampire things
all the rest is a surplus
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>>125019410
That one vampire got shot in the head and played it off as a joke. Maybe that's a reason?
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>>125019492
No, it really is entirely rule of cool.
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>>125019427
Meh I rather have Shinoa as MC
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>>125017653
Their main weapons are demonic-possessed. Maybe it's hard to have a demon possess a jet fighter.
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We are at the state where all these low powerlevels have gathered claiming any series that starts off with humans having bad luck and has a wall around their city is a Snk clone
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>>125019567
Shinoa detected
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>>125018383
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>>125019567
This would be perfect, but she needs a hotheaded male lead to play off of.
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>>125018383

every time I see this I remember that Nanoha scene
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>>125019262
the horsemen are minor enemies that are killed in one panel and are not the main antagonists. They have near zero relevance to the plot, pose very little threat to humans and cant even attack the cities due to magic barriers.

the titans are a massive horde of giant beasts that constantly attack the city, are immune to all attacks except ones directed at the neck and are heavily implied to be humans turned titans somehow. They also eat humans.

They arent even remotely the same.
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>>125019672
I didn't watch that, so you'll have to jog my memory there

>>125019608
I'm pretty sure that theme is also used a lot in non-Jap scifi.
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>>125018383

what episode?
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>>125018383
>that smile at the end

>>125019738
5 I believe
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I want to impregnate this smug bitch so hard.
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>>125019690
In terms of the setting the horsemen serve the exact same role as the retarded titans, they're just mindless things to kill humans that requires them to live in the walls or underground.
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>>125019690
Mindless titans are constantly killed in one panel and present absolutely no legitimate threat to the city either. Go fuck yourself. I dunno why you're trying so hard to defend it.

Either its intentionally similar or both or so blatantly generic that they picked most of the same cliches out of the bucket. Its not particularly impressive either way.
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I don't think it's too bland, the show's kinda okay.
The character interactions and characters like Guren or >>125015391 are making the show likable.
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>>125016142
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=50011072

There you go.
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>>125019778
>>125019799
Why compare to SnK instead of other anime? Did you only start watching anime recently?
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>>125018383

Why they move too much?

is rotoscopy?
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>>125019891
The part where he suddenly flies up and hits the wall is hilarious
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>>125019862
Because whether or not you want to admit it, SnK is in vogue. If you can name a more similar show thats not SnK, be my fucking guest.
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>>125014561
>Watching meme subs
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>>125019670
That would be Kimizuki
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>>125019838
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>>125019939
Hm, the theme of "embattled humanity" is quite common throughout all genres and cultures - and it may be overdone, but doesn't mean the show is automatically bad.

I'm watching it for Shinoa anyway so I'm not gonna say you are wrong
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>>125019636
You got me
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>>125019838
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>>125019262
Okay, you have Ao no Exorcist and SnK. It has taken you this long for two, can you name another three? Of course you can, it's generic, right?
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>>125020039
Why do you always bully U-boat-san?
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>>125020068
What are you talking about? I think you got your lines crossed.

>>125019862
Thats like saying people are only comparing Black Clover to Fairy Tale and Naruto because they're the only shounen they know about.
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>>125020070
Because I'm bored
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>>125019862
Yu is a direct copy of Eren, except without most the angsty bullshit. The main difference between AoT and Seraph is everyone isn't a vampire/titan.
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>>125020183
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>>125020184
At least Yuu is useful unlike the ragetard.
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>>125020228
Did she cum in her hand?
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>>125020281
I don't see anything, what do you mean?
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>>125020131
AoT is the easiest example since it's so straight forward.to compare. Feels almost like a carbon copy.
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>>125014561
if anything it reminds me alot of blue exorcist
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