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What's your opinion on the Urobutcher?

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He's a fucking cunt.
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One of the greatest writers of all time
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>>124914189
He is way too Japanesey for my tastes.
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He ran out of ideas + people got used to his style. He's pretty much history now
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I like him. I like how he played that ropeplaying game with nasu and friends as an edgelord and I like how he worked on Blassreiter since I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on earth who liked that shit.
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He works best when you let him finish stuff.
Either let him continue a pre-existing work or have him do a new one entirely, and not have him work on like the first 3 episodes just so they can add his name to the credits
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Gave me the best heisei kamen rider series next to Double and Drive.
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For a show that borrows its setting from so many excellent science fiction works, and quotes or references so many excellent writers, Psycho-Pass has remarkably little of interest to say about anything. It's practically the definition of pretentious: it uses these big names to hide its own lack of substance. Any theme it wants to discuss, be it rule of law and operating outside the law, surveillance versus individual liberty, or dictatorship and freedom, gets boiled down to something simple and pithy.

So unlike a story like From the New World, Psycho-Pass just ended up, for me, as a shiny sci-fi show where Good Guys with Guns stop Bad Guy in a world with Conspiracies and Plot Twists. Better characters could have carried that, but most of the cast was half-baked. So aside from the few moments where the direction and the writing really came together (episode 11, parts of 14), it's pretty mediocre.
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Edgy shit tier writer.
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I wanted to say excellent for Saya no Uta but that was kind of a one-hit wonder.
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He saved Psycho Pass so they could fuck up it next year.
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>6 on good

Did someone post that on MAL?
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>>124914189
>Google poll
These threads are made by shills
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>>124914411
If you ever read Saya no Uta you'd understand why he's at least a good writer.
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>>124914189

>have to log in to jewgle to view

I once made the mistake of doing that on 4chan and later discovered that someone had shared a folder of CP to my docs.
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>>124914189
Edgy manchild.
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He's hot and cold, He's no way near to being cancer to the industry people look forward to when they see his name on a project because of how wild he is.

He did a nice job on the ending for Gargantia though.

PP S1 was pretty meh.
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>>124914361
Gaim was pretty great. Was hoping Micchy got his just deserts though. But maybe that would've been too predictable considering it's Urobotchi.
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>>124914439
Blame the strawpoll dev that doesn't add a captcha to it so it can get spammed by proxies.
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Making a show grimdark for fucks sake doesn't automatically make it good.
That being said, Saya no Uta is still his best work, I think he could make some pretty good VNs.
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>>124914437
>one decent thing
>everything else is mediocre or shit

Yeah. What a good writer.
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>>124914361
Spoken like a true newfag
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>>124914584
>Making a show grimdark for fucks
Are any of his shows Grimdark?
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I liked fate zero
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>>124914348
You know the shitty ending was his idea, don't you?
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>>124914584
Except all his VNs are shit except Saya.
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>Kill Em All Tomino v2.0
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He's good. Not stellar, and he doesn't deserve the hype he's gotten. But he does consistently put out stuff that is somewhat above average and once in a while he's managed to make something that's very good.
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Madoka is great for a number of reasons, not just him, and I think people forget that.
I don't think he deserves the hate he gets from some people.
It is hard to see him contributing to anything as good as Madoka at this point. But who knows right?
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>>124915439
>with only 1/4 the talent
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Madoka was great, F/Z was mostly good, PP was mostly shit aside from Akane, not familiar with his other stuff. Idk, he can do nicely when teamed up with the right people.
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>>124916787
>>124915512
>Madoka
>Great
Pick one.

Fucking swear to god this reddit raid is long.
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Saya no Uta is a masterpiece. Everything else he has done is decent to shit.
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>>124914189
THE
EASTERN
CHRISTOPHER
NOLAN
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>>124918051
Were you trying to prove that Urobutcher's overrated?
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Didn't realize /a/ had so many retards who think Urobutcher's his story is good.
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>>124917409
Django and Kikokugai are pretty cool too
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Oh gosh, I didn't realize that people who think Urobutcher is bad is just a vocal minority.
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>>124917297
It's summer, not surprised.
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He is so much better when he isn't being an edgy faggot
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>>124919064

>>>/v/
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>>124914189
I pray every night he dies. There is no one I wish death upon more than this cancerous disease of the anime medium. I also wish anyone that supports him and his terrible ideas in any way, be it praise or actual money, die horrible deaths as well.

Gen Urobuchi is the person that single-handedly destroyed the anime industry.
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>>124914223
Is he the Japanesiest?
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>>124914189
Ran out of idea.
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>>124919064
I dunno, I see 36%, which is still more than I expected considering that "Urobuchi is le cancer" is pretty meme-tier.

I say that because he's never written anything significantly shit. It's either decent, good, or great.
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>>124914604
Actually, the Fate/Zero LN was also fantastic.
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Urobuchi Rankings (from best to worst descending):
>Saya no Uta
>Fate/Zero LN
>everything else
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Remember that he could have saved Aldnoah Zero.
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>>124919940
>I don't like thing, so I want the one who made thing and everyone who likes thing to die
Spoken like a true edgelord
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>>124917297
>oh shit he said reddit, now I have to hate Madoka!

literally fuck off.

Madoka is a masterpiece and still the best anime in this decade.
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>>124921641
>>124921545
Satan will have your souls.
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>>124921641
2/10

If you want to make it more believable, you need to try applying a bit of logic and reason on why it's a masterpiece. It's too easy to just label something a masterpiece, and as a result, the troll gets exposed too easily.
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>>124914453
>He did a nice job on the ending for Gargantia though.
To bad the middle part was such horse-shit and killed the entire series.
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He needs to go back to VNs
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>>124914278
Yeah, he's such "history" that the latest released work where he had sole writing credit sold over 50 thousand discs, doing way better than anyone involved expected.
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>>124921934
no he needs to die
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>>124914189
>the witches/aliens/robots/bad guys were actually human all along
>the thing you wanted to save/protect/use was actually corrupt/evil the entire time
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Official butcher rankings

>10/10 tier
SnU, Madoka
>9/10 tier
Phantom, F/Z, Vjedogonia, Kikokugai
>8/10 tier
Black lagoon LN, P-P, EfP, Gaim
>7/10 tier
Gargantia
>4/10 tier
Blassreiter, A.Z
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>>124922038
>no Django
the fuck is wrong with you
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He can create middly interesting settings but he can't write characters so they turn into soapboxes for his ideas. Even his settings are getting repetitive (x were humans)
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>>124922099
Haven't finished it yet, I stopped after Blondie fucks 100 guys. I'll say it's about an 8/10 so far. OST is amazing though.
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>>124922038
>madoka 10/10
So why did you move from reddit to /a/ anyway? I thought the racy posts and anti-social nature of 4chan keep your kind away.
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>>124921891
Where would you like me to begin? The well thought out and foreshadowed plot? The characters that had depth and development? The GOAT tier soundtrack? The GOAT tier ending? The amazing visuals of the labyrinths? The amazing voice acting?

Where would you like me to elaborate on my feelings why Madoka is a masterpiece? By the way replying and green texting any one of those statements does not constitute a rebuttal.
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>>124922226
Begin wherever you like, it's your own critique and I'm sure it'll be remarkably stupid no matter how you write it.
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>>124921414
Not until Aoki reveal that most of the plot came from him, all Takayama and Aoki do is just fill in the blank.
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>>124914189
I think he's pretty overrated as a writer. All his stories pretty much come down to being a bunch of mediocre events with some 10/10 ones placed in between at times. His characters, especially in the case of female ones, are usually pretty flat and dull. It's kinda embarrassing that his fans pretty much ignore all his pre-madoka works other than SnU and F/Z, but a good portion of them think he wrote F/Z after madoka anyway.
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>>124922570
What plot? Not a lot happened in A.Z. If they changed every character then they practically changed everything that happened in the original plot.
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>>124922226
>The well thought out
>ENTROPY HURRRRR EEEEEENTROPY entropy ENtropy
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>>124922218
>"it's popular therefore it's bad!"
>likes something popular therefore he must be from reddit
He might be stretching it a bit with the 10/10, but Madoka was actually pretty great; especially on the second watch where it takes on a completely different tone/perspective. It's not bad, it's just over-hyped and has a cancerous fanbase.
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>>124922751
>catbunny alien thing giving little girls magical powers to fight witches in surrealistic labyrinths is fine
>heat death of the universe is COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC!!1
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>>124922966
Did I ever say anything about realism? No.

It's just an incredibly weak premise.
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>>124921932
It was okay it just had two different sides it could have gone into.

You had the SoL parts then the parts about the Hideauze's and stuff.

>>124922038
Wasn't S2 down to that fucking hack Aoki, Piece of shit bastard ruined it all.
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>>124914189

BASED URO
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>>124914189
>Phantom: The Animation
(3/10)
>Blassreiter
(4/10)
>Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom
(7/10)
>Madoka Magica
(8/10)
>Psycho-Pass
(6/10)
>Fate/Zero
(8/10)
>Suisei no Gargantia
(6/10)
>Aldnoah.Zero
(3/10)

>>124918051
Both overrated, yes. But at least Nolan has visions and puts effort into what he's doing. In terms of scripts alone, Nolan beats him by a long shot as well.
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>>124923277
>Oh Em Ge why did you kill the pirates that were trying to rob us and sell us into slavery
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>>124914189
>le shocking deaths XD
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>>124923190
It was a reasonable and logical explanation for why some random ass alien from a faraway planet would want to help humanity let alone even know about humanity. It was an interesting concept to explain why magical girls are necessary. No, not some genius masterpiece writing, but it's also neither the focus of the show nor as unoriginal as the premise of Generic Harem #6463 or Generic Moeshit #5324.

By well thought I'm pretty sure he's talking about it being about Madoka and "MUH TWISTS" the first time around and being about Homura the second time around. It's one of those series that's well made/written/planned out enough that you can notice new stuff every time you watch it. One of those series where it's better the second time around.
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>>124923190
That's not the premise. That's not even close to the premise, that's just Kyubey's justification for his actions.

Do you know what a "premise" is?
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He created Angela.
There is no way he is bad writer.
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>>124923847
>Alien rabbit thing turns girls into Liches in order to fight entropy

Pretty sure that was the premise
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>>124923842
>It was a reasonable and logical explanation
It was neither, but I can't be arsed to explain why entropy is a non-issue
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>>124923360
To be fair, he did not work on Aldonah.Zero aside from the first ep. They just used his name to reel in naive faggots.
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>>124924074
>but I can't be arsed to explain why entropy is a non-issue
Entropy is an issue. You may not agree with the idea that heat death is the fate of the universe, but it is certainly true that free energy (in a thermodynamic sense) is limited.
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>>124924298
Describe the entropy of gravity to me

I'll be waiting
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>>124924367
>gravitational pull
>anything to do with energy

Also that would require to explain gravity first and that's not exactly something humankind has figured out yet.
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>>124924866
>gravitational pull
>anything to do with energy

Why does water flow downstream?

Heat-death is an abandoned theory precisely because classic physics can't explain the universe.
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>>124924298
Entropy making the universe's energy unusable is quite literally the last thing any sentient species ought to worry about.

It would make more sense if QB was just dicking around with little girls for laughs.
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>>124924367
>Describe the entropy of gravity to me
What do you even mean by this? Do you want me to justify gravity using entropy? I'm not a fucking wizard, no one knows that. But I do know that as a physical object, blackholes represent maximums in possible entropy for a given mass.

>>124925007
>Entropy making the universe's energy unusable is quite literally the last thing any sentient species ought to worry about.
And this is where you're supposed to use suspension of disbelief. Kyubey says this is what's wrong with the universe, so in the world of Madoka Magica, this is what's wrong with the universe. It is a plausible plaussible sci-fi universe doomsday scenario. It's been done before, no one is claiming it's unique or groundbreaking.
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>>124925575
Epic fail.
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He's okay. People's opinions on him are way too polarized, but I guess the fact that he can make so many people mad just by killing some fictional characters is one of his strong points. However, I was pleasantly surprised that he did not go that route with Gargantia.
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>>124914189
>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_ya1IXcOapARyEVJ0ChQiXNPL4_nA8Dn3MlxBK0qc5E/viewform?usp=send_form
Excellent 40 22.9%
Good 54 30.9%
Decent 24 13.7%
Babby's first edge 29 16.6%
Hack 15 8.6%
Cancer to the industry 13 7.4%
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He did Gaim so he's alright.
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>>124918051
I dunno, I like Butcher's female casting
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kek, someone went to the trouble of stockpiling Google accounts to inflate the excellent option.

Truly a new low.
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>>124923277
>dat Ridget
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>>124922218
Fuck off.
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>>124928113
Can't argue against an orange.
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>>124927983
Seems pretty legit.
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>>124927983
Oh no, the Excellent option disappeared. Looks like all the hard work spent on making google accounts was for nothing.
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>>124914940

I enjoyed parts of Kikogukai honestly

and no, I'm not talking about sex scenes
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>>124920231
No, that's you, Karen.
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>>124921995
He's milking the reputation from his past works.
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Each series he's involved in seems to be progressively more lacking and nonsensical than the last one. I think when he isn't being surrounded by other people with good planning and promotional skills his story concepts and writing reveal someone who is pretty much lost out there without much idea on how to tell a story beyond using rule of cool and ideas that are trendy and have an edge to them. A hollow edge without much in the way of thematic resonance beyond shock value but an edge nonetheless. Without serious backing and budget from other popular people like Sawano, Kajiura, or a good director producer team that is at the height of their popularity he doesn't even have that. He's always been carried by other popular people and never really had to deal with a situation where his writing alone has to carry a story and frankly it's starting to look like he's on his way out of the industry as anything other than a name to slap on a story concept in the hopes that it draws more attention to it. The more he does that though and the less he actually writes and contributes good material in its own right the less effective that's going to be over time though.
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