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Tsukihime!

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Which Tsukihime route do you want to see ufotable adapt first?

Which is best for an anime series?
Which is best for an OVA?

Do you think we'll see Tsukihime stuff before Fate gets adaptated?
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It's a full moon tonight.

Ciel's or Kohaku's.

Ciel
Kohaku

never ;_;
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who wants to play melty
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>>124903213
I wonder if they could do something more experimental, something like a common anime series for the beginning of the VN, with branching episodes that explore each route.

Since it's no use remaking episodes of the same content, and that mixing multiple routes in one anime would be a clusterfuck, it seems like the only solution.

Well, there could be at least two series for near side and far side
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>>124903403
So it would be like a 50 episode series like jojo's, but Tsukihime is shorter, so it would be the intro then "here begins arc route, here begins ciel route, etc."?

Could be cool
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>>124903213
>Which is best for an anime series?
The manga so Arc's. Parts of Ciel's route would be awkward to portray.
>Which is best for an OVA?
Hisui or Akiha with a Kohaku movie.
>Do you think we'll see Tsukihime stuff before Fate gets adaptated?
More than likely not.
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>>124903403
>I wonder if they could do something more experimental, something like a common anime series for the beginning of the VN, with branching episodes that explore each route.

That's called Omnibus, and it was already done for Amagami and Yosuga no Sora.
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>>124903264
They might adapt Akiha route.

Arc route was animated.
And just like fate where fate route animated first, they might skip it and went UBW instead.

Ciel route basically Arc route V2.0

Maid route has better chance, but I doubt it since they involve less Arc (Its Tsuki and Hime damn it) and Hisui route has a lot inner monologue of shiki.

I hope they animating MB instead with Aoko as side story.
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>>124903572
>Arc route was animated.
Carnival Phantasm is Melty. Melty follows Satsuki's route not Arc's.
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>>124903213
I feel like near side routes would work well as a series, whereas far side would work well as films.
I'd give anything to see an Akiha route movie.
We're getting an adaptation after the remake.
We're never getting the remake.
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>>124903572
I think they will adopt Fate eventually, it is just more boring so they will do something different for it than a straight adaptation.
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>>124903264
>>124903572
Ciel's version of the route is a bit more interesting, what with Shiki going Roa-mode and having to fight off Arc so I wouldn't mind it.
But Arc is official waifu, so I'm sure it'll never happen ;_;
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Happy birthday Ciel!

Yes, today is her birthday
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>>124906326
03 or 04?
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>>124906381
03
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>>124906326
Happy birthday Ciel.
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>>124906390
Happy birthday senpai!
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>>124906326
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>>124903213
Best route for best girl.
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>>124903284
Me
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Want to get into Tsukihime, is it better to wait for the supposed remake or just deal with the low quality art of the original?

Also, I've heard conflicting statements about the length. Some say it's amazingly long, while that Type-moon newfag guide clocks it at <20 hours.
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>>124906475
>>124906326
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>>124907689
The remake will happen in years if it ever does, don't count on it. The art of the original is pretty shit but you get used to it.

It's fairly short, that <20 hour estimate is realistic.
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>>124907694
I don't get this
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>>124909271
Nasu made a joke that linked Archer's backstory to Ciel, it wasn't serious.
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How am I supposed to get Tsukihime to work? When I try to launch it it just shows a white (sometimes black) screen and sometimes the music will start to play. I've tried fixing permissions, run as admin, compatibility mode, japanese system locale, etc.
The one thing that works is running in 256 colors, but it looks terrible.
I've tried messing around with my graphics card settings but nothing else works.
This happens on a version I got from nyaa and the fuwanovel version.
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>>124909827
No clue, install gentoo
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>>124909827
Try running it in a VM or something.
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They need to adapt the Sensei route.

You all know it in your hearts to be true.
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>>124909827
did you try google?
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>>124909827
Cum on it
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>>124910079
Will it be the best route?
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>>124910046
I'm gonna try that
>>124910145
Yeah, the only results I get are different problems.

To explain further it will either show a white screen and title music, or show a black screen and cause my display driver to crash. I can't figure out what the hell is causing either one and they happen interchangeably when I try to launch it.

I'm sorry for using this thread but I don't know who else to ask.
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>>124906475
>>124907694
Fucking faggots.
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>>124910338
Why is Aoko going insane with Shiki?
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>>124910533
She saw the future and liked what she saw
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>>124906326
>>124906475
Was she his mysterious lover in the future?


Also who has the bigger dick Shiki or Shirou?
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I bet Ciel has a tramp stamp that says Entrance Only
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>>124910656
No. Why would Ciel fall in love with someone completely different from Shiki? Even in an ending where Arcueid clearly wins, Ciel still wants Shiki.
If you've seen the CGs, Shiki has the bigger dick by a longshot.
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>>124910706
>Entrance Only
>but she takes it up her exit hole at the back
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>>124910656
Fuck off.
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>>124910807
>eating curryramen
>not eating curryburger instead
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>>124910807
>>124910949
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>>124906326
Joyeux anniversaire, Ciel!
Yes, I had to google it.
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>>124906326
Best girl
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>>124911490
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>>124903213
>Which Tsukihime route do you want to see ufotable adapt first?
Akiha route

>Which is best for an anime series?
Arc route

>Which is best for an OVA?
Hisui route

>Do you think we'll see Tsukihime stuff before Fate gets adaptated?
No
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Man, Ciel is fucking crazy. Every time I play a route with her in it it ends up with her pressing a death weapon up to my chest and having the trigger half-pulled after breaking my arms and nearly killing me three times before going "Whelp you passed the test time to work together!~"
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>>124914252
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>>124903213
>Which Tsukihime route do you want to see ufotable adapt first?
Arc

>Which is best for an anime series?
Manga version

>Which is best for an OVA?
Far Side (both)

>Do you think we'll see Tsukihime stuff before Fate gets adaptated?
do you mean Fate route? well, maybe. but I'm a bit pessimistic
if Tsukihime VN Remake OP made by ufotable, then I'm sure we'll get one
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>>124914375
>Manga version

I guess if you also enjoy Bleach or Naruto, then yeah the manga is decent.

I regret buying the first three volumes when they first came out.
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>>124914375
>Which is best for an anime series?
>Manga version

The manga has none of the character development that made Tsukihime so interesting. Combine that with shoddy art and shonen fighting scenes that last nearly entire volumes, and you got a recipe for failure.
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>>124909827

>fuwanovel

Don't do that. Also, are you actually mounting and installing it or trying to run the .exe like a chump?
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>>124909827
>Tsukihime: Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under The Crimson Air
visual novel: http://www.mediafire.com/download/6md4vmbviyvs15t/Tsukihime_-_Blue_Blue_Glass_Moon,_Under_The_Crimson_Air.zip
manga: http://bakabt.me/162022-shingetsutan-tsukihime.html

>Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=453758

>Kagetsu Tohya: Ten Nights of the Singing Moon / Twilight Glass Moon, Fairy Tale Princess
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7hvdci7fjlqw2ud/Tsukihime_-_Kagetsu_Tohya.zip

>MELTY BLOOD: Through the Looking-Glass, Fairy Tale Transparently / Hologram Summer Again, Tri Hermes Black Land.
Re-ACT: http://www.mediafire.com/download/lg5t7ya5pb56sqj/Tsukihime_-_MELTY_BLOOD_1_Re-ACT.zip
Actress Again Current Code: http://www.mediafire.com/download/urji788c8sl9hnv/Tsukihime_-_MELTY_BLOOD_2_AACC.zip
Ultimate Guide: http://pastebin.com/UT6mWZqh
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>>124914553
I want loli Arc for myself.
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Ciel Pros:

Executioner garb, serious personality, fighting style, pseudo-joking tone she takes sometimes, being a counter to Stupid and No Breasts.

Ciel Cons:

Curry, school uniform, lack of appreciable friendship development.

Ciel should've been the one character interested in just what Shiki was capable of doing as a fighter. Nobody else gave a shit about his talents, except Arcueid, who just appreciated them out of necessity.

If she hadn't of been turned into an official joke character by Nasu, nobody would dislike her as much as they do.
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Roa has extensive knowledge of magic and also possesses vampiric mystic eyes, which nearly all of them have. SHIKI never has the ability to see anything like lines of vitality or death in the path without Roa active as anything more than a terrible voice in his head. All he can do is control his blood, steal the lives of others, and regenerate/remain alive after extensive damage to himself. That comes from his Tohno bloodline powers, Immortality and Fusion. Akiha's bloodline ability is Plunder, i.e. utterly consuming a person, right down to their very existence.

Roa develops mystic eyes in Arc/Ciel route precisely because he's linked to Shiki. He can leech what Shiki has due to SHIKI stealing half his life, but what he's actually seeing is only what he understands: the lifeforce (vitality) of living creatures. When Shiki shows him that he can cut inanimate things as well, Roa goes completely crazy and doesn't understand how it could possibly work.

Roa's ability isn't to drain the lives of others, but rather to overwrite them with his own soul and memories. The problem is that there is a collision during this process, in which Roa and the host merge, thereby polluting the next transition to the next host. His soul is degraded by the time Tsukihime occurs, as he himself will eventually degrade into nothingness, just like Nero will when the chaos consumes his intelligence. Since vampirism is a disease of the soul, anyone he overwrites will be a vampire.
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>>124914553
Thank you.
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>>124914718
Sion > Ciel
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>>124914718
>Curry
>Con
What kind of pleb doesn't enjoy a good curry
I don't even give a shit about the curry everything jokes, that's like people declaring Kohaku their waifu for being a wacky robot building mad scientist
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Ciel was quirky. All the others were just generic 'perfect girl' animu stereotypes.
Patricians love Ciel. Autists love the others.
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>>124916389
This guy gets it. The least popular girls are usually the real best girl
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>>124916389
Glad to see somebody else throwing down for Senpai.
It's also pretty striking that she shares some parallels with Sakura as far as suffering and corruption go - but Ciel didn't have a hero to save her from Roa's possession, and resolved to take matters into her own hands after Arc blew Roa out and the church finished using her as a science experiment. Her life got completely destroyed and she chose to fight back hard, which wins her a lot of respect from me.

>>124916448
Best girl business aside, I will always be thankful to Ciel's route for giving me the push to discover curry. All those years missing out
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>>124916619
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>>124916636
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>>124909827
>>124910017
Works great on Arch systemD/GNU/Linux
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>>124916680
debian is fine too
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>>124916649
Cute as fuck
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>>124916700
It's kinda ironic how I can effortlessly run most of the VN's with wine, but my pal with windows is always struggling with some problematic shits.
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>>124910656

Shiki has the bigger dick, but Shirou's is harder like steel
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>>124916741
> but Shirou's is harder like steel
It's also thinner and sharper
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>>124903213
But Fate route was famous, and it was considered the best anime of 2006(yes it was, no matter how much you all hate it). Arc route anime was seriously an aberration, you can't even begin to compare, Fate 2006 is seriously amazing compared.

I would start with Arc route 22-24 episodes(I think it's enough, annd they'll have time to add monologues) and then follow like it's supposed to be.
Then Maids route a couple movies
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I want JC staff to remake it.
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>>124917091
Studio pablo backgrounds?
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>>124916732
I have always used windows and never had a problem, the most I have to do with old games it's executing in compatibility mode or admin. Or both
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Which Tsuki girl makes best waifu material?
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>>124917239
All of them, all of them are best girls
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>>124917082
They should adapt Arc route in movies and maids too, the rest as tv. That would be perfect.
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>>124910533
The Tohno Gland managed to grasp her to the point where she came up with a Hikaru Genji plan.
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>>124910778
Couldn't it have been a Maiya like situation?
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>>124918754
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>>124916448
R A R E C I E L
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>>124918778
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>>124903213
still working through the far side routes, but out of the near side routes, I think Ciel's is more deserving of an adaption.
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>>124918816
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>poetry 2305
>final project: make something which relates poetry to your major or your interests
>I just made a VN using excerpts from a novel written in verse using ripped Tsukihime assets
>old lady professor is really impressed and asks if there's anymore "things like these"
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>>124919167
VN in poetry?
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>>124914615
I never realize I want loli arc and shota shiki playing together until now.
Maybe we will get it next Carnival Phantasm.
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>>124921123
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Will Takeuchi give us a route now?
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>>124921850
Looks like Illya.
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>>124921979
Fucking Takeuchi
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>>124922055
Wrong.
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>>124922055
>>124922248
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>>124921850
Is that from KT ?
Fuck, I think I should continue it.
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>>124920382
I just converted sections of a novel written in verse to a VN written in verse. She didn't know what a VN was and wanted to learn more about them. She's like 65 so I had no idea what the fuck to tell her.
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>>124925742
I thought you had used Tsukihime 'poetry' for a minute there.
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>>124926014
POETRY
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Usually i dont appreciate used/damaged goods but somehow type-moon ended up as an exception and i never did care.
Ciel, Kohaku and Sakura ended up my favorite routes and heroines.
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>>124917082
No it wasn't the best anime of 2006. Haruhi aired in 2006 anon and that was the best thing to come up of the last decade.
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>>124926014
THE GLAND
(kinda bland)
GETS THE GIRLS
(which i make her curl)
BECAUSE THE HIGH JUMP
(which makes the girls hump)
IS FOR THAT FAG
(which will bring girls that nag)
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This thread needs more best girl.
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>>124927078
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>>124927078
>posting wrong girl
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>>124927078
Why is she wearing someone else's skirt? That's obviously not her size
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>>124929423
There is nothing wrong here.
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>>124903213
Len route.
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>>124929739
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SATSUKI ROUTE WHEN???
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>>124930190
Hopefully never
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>>124927078
There's Akiha and Shiki discussing miscellaneous things in Akiha's room... Akiha and Shiki + Ciel at the school sports festival.

Akiha doesn't get a lot of parts in Kagetsu Tohya. It's a real shame. She also doesn't get her own nightmare sequence, which is something Ciel and Arcueid get. The closest you come to hearing about Akiha/Kohaku/Ciel's views of the dream world are that they all remember things they would really not like to remember.

My favorite sequence with all three is the card game. Kohaku and Hisui, conspiring, and Shiki throwing a monkey wrench in Akiha's strategy.

Tohno family is best family.
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>>124903213
DDD
Tsuki is pretty overrated and boring.
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>>124930660
What this guy said. People need to move on, this isn't 2011 anymore.
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I like what Tsukihime tries to do. It's more small-scale, psychological, darker, and perhaps more atmospheric than fate, but occasionally the vn feels very amateurish and poorly executed which makes it difficult to rate it higher than fate (this makes sense seeing as it was TM's first vn back when they were still a doujin group).
I think it will benefit greatly from a remake, and I honestly wouldn't mind some pretty big changes being made to the routes (especially near-side) as long as it doesn't feel like a different vn.
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>>124931214
>It's more small-scale
It's tooooo smal. Most of time Shiki sits at home.
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>>124931327
Most of time Shiki is losing his fucking mind
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Curry
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>>124933137
Ass
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Here's what I see happening:

First they'll adapt Arcueid's route, probably with elements of Ciel's route thrown in. Without a doubt, that's the first thing they'll do. Since this is a remake with probably a whole bunch of new shit added in (ad probably some stuff take out as well), the fact that it's been adapted twice won't really matter. Besides, J.C. Staff's adaptation is largely considered a disappointment and most people wouldn't have been exposed to it anyway, so it's moot.

Then, I suppose, they'll adapt either the Satsuki route or one of the Far Side routes somehow. Maybe a manga adaptation for the Far Side.
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Well, luckily, Tsukihime shouldn't too much trouble to animate. Unlike Fate, where there are around half a dozen fights per route, Tsukihime only has around two or three each.

So as long as they do the Nrvnqsr fight justice, the rest should be fairly simple. Watching a properly animated fight with Nanaya arts is gonna be a real treat.

Assuming it ever happens in our lifetimes.
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While on the talk on ufotable,
How did the bd sale go?
Fate/HA anime confirmed yet?
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>>124934060
The Nero fight has a ridiculous amount of potential. If ufotable wanted to they could make it looks ridiculously good. I'm getting giddy just thinking about it.
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It still bothers me that Nrvnqsr is just nero.
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>>124934325
36k for first boxset and is currently floating around rank 200 in amazon dvd/bd - so it beat DEEN's 26k
Preorders for second boxset currently around 9.5k floating around rank 20 and rank 40 in amazon dvd/bd

So it's a very large success, but people on /a/ like to laugh at it because it's under F/Z's 50k~ each
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>>124917082
>it was considered the best anime of 2006(yes it was, no matter how much you all hate it)

It wasn't even the best selling anime of that year, let alone the most well received.
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>post yfw we see updated Ciel in Archers backstory for ubw 2014
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>>124934635
I wish, even if only for a couple seconds
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>>124934635
>Archer working for the church
That's the only answer I have come up with after years of struggling with how bad those leggings look, Ciel wears the same kind of leggings but blue.
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>>124934483
I still pronounce it as Nuhr-vuhn-qehsuhr
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>>124933731
They could spend 2 cours on the Near Side but there is no way to push both of those routes together as neatly as you'd think.
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>>124934804
I can't believe I never noticed that before.
You're solving all the mysteries anon!
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>>124933731
Do you even know why they adapted F/Z and F/SN
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>>124934783
>tfw no more scenes of Shiki and SHIKI being bros
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>>124934533
Nice!
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>>124934894
The coffee conversation and Dreaming Drinking Moon were great. SHIKI is the best bro.
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>>124934804
It seems he actually received a number of tools from them. The red coat he wears is a holy shroud, supposedly received from Ciel (though Nasu appears to have been joking when he said that). It probably has some spiritual mitigation properties.

Apparently, it has some special meaning for him, since he only wears it under particular circumstances.
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>>124934934
I was crying salty bitch tears during Drinking Dreaming Moon, that scene is easily one of my favorites out of Nasu's work.
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>>124934875
Kara no Kyoukai did well.
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>>124935008
Is that supposed to be Enhance?
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>you will never win $100,000,000.00 in the lottery and fund five separate OVA series from Ufotable for each Tsukihime route

Why even live?
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>>124935002
>Nasu's work
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>>124935086
>ask ufotable to kickstart this shit
>????
>Tofu
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>>124935086
Just make sure Nasu finishes the VN as well.
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>>124935086
Why would you want them to adapt the crappy old Tsukihime of all things? Hipster syndrome?
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>>124935157
What's taking him so long? I sincerely hope he's spent this time taking a good hard look at himself over agreeing to those Godawful character design changes and not lazing around playing Dark Souls.
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>>124935370
>What's taking him so long?
Vidya obviously.
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>>124935008
Never.
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>>124935106
You serious?
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>>124935370
Knowing him he wouldn't be pleased with his old writing and want to redo the bulk of it.

>godawful character design changes
What's wrong with them?
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>>124935370
Kill him before he ruins his best work and changes everything good about Tsukihime.
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>yfw Nasu scraps the tsukihime remake in favour of a fate remake
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>>124935426
>heroines
Who would even be the heroines of Tsukihime 2?
Forte, Lorelei and Arc comes to mind, with an NTR route for Ciel.Maybe we'll get Altrouge.
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>>124935502
Too busy with Fate/Grand Order to do an FSN remake yet.
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>>124935462
Too "by-committee". Arcueid and Ciel especially look like generic anime females now.
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>>124935578
Does anyone even know how Type-Moon works now? I imagine Nasu and Takuechi still hold a controlling interest in the whole affair? Or are they just puppets now?
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>>124935578
Arc is wearing normal clothes now, the kind you'd wear when you actually want to blend in to the time period. Ciel's outfit change makes sense and the hair had been changing for a long time.
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>>124935370
>the Tsukihime remake

Kill Nasu, before he can destroy his magnum opus.
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>>124935660
Nasu and Takeuchi call all the shots. Nasu is literally the foundation of the company, and Takeuchi's his support.

Generally, changes in design aren't necessarily due to committee, but because Takeuchi himself wanted to change it. That's what Touko's deal was. Takeuchi hated the blue-haired design, so he changed it.
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>>124935434
Check the credits.
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>>124935086
No, there's way too much pseudo philosophy, technical terms, and pacing issues.

Tsukihime is one of those works that would've benefited from a good editor. It still would. The manga was the best attempt to incorporate everything, and even it has issues.
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>>124935735
Takeuchi prompted a design change that wasn't another Saber clone? Bullshit.
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Tsukihime, Far Side of the Moon route, Akiha/Hisui/Kohaku mishmash, ufotable, Kajiura Yuki.

I will then be able to die content, knowing that nothing else can ever be made to surpass it.
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>>124935735
>tfw you will never have such a good bro as Takeuchi
LITERALLY saved TM
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>>124935735
Does anyone know who Nasu is yet? Has anyone even tried to find out?
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>>124935517
Also noisy drunk onee-san Sumire with hidden sub-route and threesome with her and ojou-bitch Rita.
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>>124935822
>Akiha/Hisui/Kohaku mishmash
Trainwreck waiting to happen.
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SAME THREAD EVERY FUCKING DAY

Tsukihime is 15 years old for fuck sake
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>>124935822
>Kajiura Yuki.
My brother of african descent
KnK soundtrack is so great I have a copy of it on all my devices.
Also the Madoka OST was great as well
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>>124935872
There's images of her out there if you look for them.
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>>124935872
Nasu is the whitewoman
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>>124935517
>Nasu: I had no other choice but to make Fate/stay night the way I did for that bishojo game format. That was one of the reasons why I once said to Urobuchi, "I don't think I can make bishojo games anymore." The more you pour both what the author wants to draw and romance elements that will excite the users into a work, the more distant they get from each other... that was my dilemma. Trying to force them together would only warp the work.
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>>124935872
Nasu is a mushroom.
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Here's what I assumed happened.

>Takeuchi: "The original designs are kinda dated, aren't they? I was a complete amateur back then, so for the remake, I wanna change some things. Modernize it a bit."
>Nasu: "Alright, go for it. I'll leave the designs entirely all up to you, so go wild."
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>>124935994
I like Takeuchi's old sprites like I like 07's original sprites for Umineko.

Nasu made a mistake allowing his retarded head to do this
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>>124935994
I'm truly conflicted about those redesigns.
I'm expecting it to be a Mahoyo deal with each character having a wardrobe and not being stuck in the same outfit.

Akiha and Ciel work pretty well, but for Arc, I know it's going to be the same upbeat semi-psycho vampire I like but that hair man, it's too flat!

I don't understand people who say "but you were complaining about the granny clothes before stop whining", those are obviously different demographics

Also Arc redesign means Neco-Arc redesign and that is not okay under any circumstances man
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>>124935517
>>124935879
True End.
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>>124903213
Maybe it's because I'm not much of a Cielfag, but I never noticed how muscular Ciel's arms are.
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>>124934804
I now understand why people want a Tsukihime remake so bad. The art is on the level of highschooler.
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>>124936200
They weren't as prominent in earlier art.
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>>124936245
Why haven't you read it?
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Tsukihime would be better if they removed Ciel's and Arc's routes since they suck so much ass. If you have to keep them just merge them with short ending branches.

Also, fuck you Nasu you lazy fuck. Write something new.
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What the fuck is Shiki eating in this CG?
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>>124936329
Arc's route is really good for a base route, a lot happens.
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>>124936329
It wouldn't surprise me if near side (at least) got a total overhaul.
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>>124936349
Isn't it uzumaki thing?
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>>124936349
Fish cake, it is popular to put on ramen.
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>>124903213
Tsukihime was okay, it was an amateur project that turned into something really neat, they really put their hearts into it. But then Type-Moon tried to hard with Fate/Stay Night, the dialog is really embarrassing and the plot is way too unimaginative.
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>>124936349
spicy curry
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>>124936349
Naruto, Fish cakes that are served in soups in Japan, mostly found in Ramen.
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>>124936167
I'm sure that if it were the other way around, that if the new designs came first, you'd be singing a different tune.

>"Arc's old design was perfect! Why the shitty granny skirt?!"
>"Old Senpai was beautiful, so why are they using this 90s haircut?! Takeuchi's a hack!"
>"The old black hairband and skirt combo was perfect! It looked classy and elegant! This new design with the white hairband and red skirt makes her look like a kid!"

You just don't want change. Your bias is entirely rooted in nostalgia.
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>>124936639
>the plot is way too unimaginative
Jesus christ. Compared to vampire harem adventures it's the fucking pinnacle of fiction.
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>>124903213
I hated all the Tsukihime characters except kind of the maids. Don't worry Ciel, you're nobody special. I don't hate you more or less than anyone else
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>>124936639
Fate's dialogue isn't that embarrassing, a lot of it can be blamed on Takajun.
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>>124936722
How can you hate this face?
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If Shirou is a sword, can he project himself?
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>>124903213
The one thing Nasu has proven, more than an inability to do anything with Tsukihime, is an inability to do anything with Ciel. Ciel is a victim of her author.

Best girl would be a tie between Kohaku and Akiha. I wish there was more Miyako and Nanako...
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>>124936167
Why has Nasu decided to destroy everything that he created?

Remove Arcueid's long skirt, make her wear bling, change the bangs.
Monotone the fuck out of Akiha, turn her hair brown, and give her a crappy outfit.
Give Ciel ugly bangs, make her look too young, and well it's Ciel, I don't really mind that much.

They'll probably make Ren wear something from fucking Idolm@ster.
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>>124936805
>shirou
I don't remember any Tsukihime characters named Shirou.
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>>124936930
>turn her hair brown
What?
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>>124903213
Her route is actually better than Arc's.

Ciel gets a lot of hate for one, simple reason: curry.

Fuck you, Nasu. You couldn't just leave her as a badass. You have to add something like that to make her obscenely obnoxious.
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>>124936930
>Monotone the fuck out of Akiha
What
>turn her hair brown
What
>give her a crappy outfit
They changed the colour from blue to white
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>>124903213
i don't know anything but this series that weapon looks dumb as shit and stands out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of her design. it's like some deviant art OC character
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>>124927078
All of the Tsukihimes are well developed. Ciel and Kohaku just got turned into joke characters. Kohaku, I can understand. Nobody wants Nasu to dwell on the fact that she got massively broken in her childhood and became a shining example of what not to do to little children. Ciel, though?

She has all kinds of stuff she could talk about with Shiki besides CURRY. The whole curry thing was just... overboard. Especially by Kagetsu Tohya.

Ciel was the one person I could see acting like a teacher, not just about school shit, but wanting Shiki to join her doing calisthenics, training, and such, even if it's just an excuse to look at Shiki's ass. She's also completely more knowledgeable about magic than Arcueid is, in at least its application. Shiki wondering about her work, maybe Ciel learning about his past and wondering about his childhood.

You just never get the chance to connect with Ciel like you do with the others. You kill Arcueid, which is an instant turn on for her and a permanent attachment, since she's all "YOU KILLED ME, REMEMBER?" Akiha has the whole underlying plot of Far Side and NII-SAN, and the twins have the "girl I played with" and "the girl who gave me the ribbon" thing, in addition to all the rest they do.

Ciel seems to be relegated to HONORABLE SEMPAI, which she just isn't good at.
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Just a reminder that Arc is arguably the strongest character in the Nasuverse.

She can throw a fucking moon at you
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>>124936988
Way more brown than it used to look. Too light. One of the only things separating her physical design from Rin was the hair tone being just that much different.

Might as well be Rin, the way they changed her.
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>>124937074
It's just a pile bunker.
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>>124937146
>laugingmagicians.jpg
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>>124937074
She was given a unicorn horn and managed to turn it into something practical. Gotta fight hard against vampires.
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>>124937083
The scene where Ciel tells Shiki she was going to be appearing in a play but that it was cancelled because she's such an unpopular charcter made me laugh more than any other type moon work.
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>>124937149
You should get your eyes checked.
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>What games have you been been playing lately?

Nasu: Demon's Soul! Highly recommended, I'm addicted.

Koyoma: It's pretty fun, Nasu even made three characters.

Nasu: Mahoyo's development actually got delayed because I've been playing this game too much, so sorry, but it's just so much fun.
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>>124937083
The problem is that Ciel's route is largely Arc's route as well so there's less development time there and she plays the villain in Arc's route.
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>>124937146
And Zelretch managed to fuck over a moon shot at him from motherfucking Type-Moon, Crimson Moon Brunestud and beat him. Though Zelretch became a DA afterwards.
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>>124937369
If you actually start mentioning the Types, Arc drops a bunch of places.
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>>124937154
Gotta love them.
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The entire point of Tsukihime and F/SN are the characters, though. The "vampire loose in the city" and "the holy grail war" are the backdrops for the characters to interact. Sure, you have the "final boss", but even that is misleading. F/SN's final scenes are just ways for Shirou to affirm his convictions or deny them in favor of something he loves. The story isn't, in the end, about beating Gil, kicking Kotomine's ass, or beating Angry Manjew. It's about the events that occurred and how everyone is going to live as they're changed by them, and what kind of person Shirou is going to be.

Same with Tsukihime. Roa is just a way for Arc and Ciel to face who they are and move on. SHIKI makes you have to face Akiha's true nature, or the culmination of what you've learned about Hisui and Kohaku. Everything is just what you learn from interacting with the main cast. The backstory itself is almost entirely caught up in the character interactions of the Far Side path of Tsukihime. You can't advance without learning about and understanding the entire tragic story of the Tohno household, more so than Curry or Idiot make you understand about Elesia's past or Arcueid's fall from grace.
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>>124936167
Getting rid of the long purple skirt was the worst idea conceivable

It's like changing her hair color or something
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>>124937721
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>>124937083
Ciel is the best parts of Sakura and Rin.
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The nostalgia faggotry among Tsukihimefags is unbearable.
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>>124903213
Type-Moon was lost when they became enamored with MOAR FATE, ALL THE FATE. Carnival Phantasm was a kick in the crotch to anyone that likes Tsukihime. The fixation with Zero was the most painful nail. Apocrypha was when I really knew we were done. At least Extra had the excuse of being a video game, so you could ignore all the horseshit hand waving.
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>>124934635
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>>124903213
They announced Tsukihime Remake at 2008 > They said they'll release it at 2010 > then they have said they want to remake some character design so they cant finish it in 2010 > now we are in 2015 and they still couldn't give us a proper date.

I have bought all typemoon games and lots of goods for supporting them, but I'll never buy any shit from this lazy company again. They dont deserve my money, I will just torrent if they can ever make something new.
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>>124916802
He is the bone of his sword after all
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>>124937965
It's not exactly laziness.

The main problem is that TYPE-MOON is centered entirely around Nasu. He writes all the important shit. I mean, sure, he doesn't write Apocrypha or that Waver thing, but all the major projects are done almost entirely by him.

Since 2008, he's been heavily involved in:
>Fate/EXTRA
>Witch on the Holy Night
>Fate/EXTRA CCC
>Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
>Fate/Grand Order

He's also written a number of side stories.

So it's not exactly laziness. It's just that since Nasu's the core of the company who has his hands in all the big shit, that inevitably means that the overall rate in which products are released will be somewhat slow.

Tsukihime itself is a very large body of written work, and knowing Nasu, he's probably completely rewritten everything and expanded on the original very heavily.
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>>124903213
Near Side is shit, for the most part, when it's not about Ciel or Shiki doing something unusual. If Kohaku, Akiha, and the end of Hisui's route hadn't been what they were, then Tsukihime wouldn't be as fondly remembered, I guarantee it.
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>>124937146
I'd throw myself at her moons if you know what I mean.
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Hey, what the fuck, guys? I found some scribblings of a Tsukihime path about some bitch who had become a vampire and wanted to be loved by Shiki because of an incident in their childhood. Something about a blood related Reality Marble, and Roa & SHIKI joining forces...

Nah, must have been an early draft of Akiha route. Guess I'll just wipe my ass with it, as I've run out of toilet paper.
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>>124903213
>Do you think we'll see Tsukihime stuff before Fate gets adaptated?

They made too much money on Fate/Stay Night and they're still rolling around in it.
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Imagine if it was the Akiha route, Shiki got in deep shit, and Akiha had to save him, instead of the other way around?

Completely devoted, crazed, younger oni sister is best.
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>>124937878
Kinda? She's definitely got Rin's knack for explaining things, taking on huge responsibilities, and generally being a badass in combat.
But I'm not sure about Sakura parallels aside from putting on a cheerful front to function in public despite their trauma.
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>>124938360
Please do not bully the Satsuki.
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>>124938455
Rin was one of the weaker combatants in the Fifth Grail War.
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>"Everything about Fate since the original game has sucked so much, why is Tsukihime so much better?"
>"Apoc was almost good, but then it sucked"
>"Extra and every other story sucks so much, why is this company still alive?"
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>>124937965
They said that the Remake would come after Mahoyo and Mahoyo was delayed from 2009 until 2012.
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Akiha is one of those heroines who happens to be more fun when you're not on her route.

Ciel, by sharp contrast, is boring as dogshit when you're on anyone's route.
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>>124903213
>Which Tsukihime route do you want to see ufotable adapt first?
Arc or Akiha

>Which is best for an anime series?
Akiha

>Which is best for an OVA?
Kohaku

>Do you think we'll see Tsukihime stuff before Fate gets adaptated?
No
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Once she got a new design everyone started paying her attention.
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>>124938283
Where can I get more of those transparent sprites?
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>>124937878
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Something I never understood since it's been a long time since I played Tsukihime. Why does Roa have two forms?
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>>124903213
>Do you think we'll see Tsukihime stuff before Fate gets adaptated?

Ahahahahahahahaha oh god is this nigga for real
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>>124937934
>The fixation with Zero was the most painful nail.

The problem is that Zero is objectively 100% better than anything else Fate related, hands down. /SN, /HA, the garbage fucking trash spinoffs like /Extra /Everythingfuckingelse. All shit in comparison.
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>>124938842
Shit it makes sense
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>>124938870
He doesn't. Roa was Roa while he was alive, then his soul started going into different bodies. In the game he was SHIKI but even that wasn't really Roa, just SHIKI with Roa's knowledge.
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>>124938870
One is Roa the vampire, the other one is SHIKI, Akiha's brother
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>>124934804
Archer is genderbent ciel confirmed
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When the fuck do we get information on the remake?
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>>124938985
An Archer/Ciel fight could be fun to see.
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>>124939063
Hopefully in TM Ace, or later this year since it is Tsukihime's 15th year anniversary so we have to get at least something.
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>>124938448
That was why I liked Akiha in Kohaku route more than her own. I was really disappointed about her being a damsel in distress. Then I got to Kohaku and couldn't contain by boner at proactive Akiha (dat neck licking, fuck Kohaku for cockblocking that and several other moments), followed by the whole Crimson Red Vermillion versus Nanaya scene, at which point I just exploded in orgasm. This was what I was hoping for about Akiha route after reading manga.
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>>124938981
Also, in the Near Side routes, SHIKI turns into Roa because his inversion impulse was supressed. While in the far side he stays as SHIKI because the inversion impulse doesn't let him become Roa
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>>124938743
Melty Blood
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>>124938743
Make them yourself.
http://s772.photobucket.com/user/AzureWanderings/library/?sort=4&page=0
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>>124909271
Ciel gave EMIYA his red cape. It was a holy shroud.
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>>124939119
I'm guessing the next TM Ace is going to be mostly GO stuff.
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>>124916389
Kohaku is superior, but I respect your taste.
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>>124939208
Thanks m8, I would, but I'm terrible with photoshop and other technical stuff. Kinda lazy to properly learn too.
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>>124939320
>Kohaku is superior
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>>124939235
Well the key word there is mostly, hopefully we'll get 1 spread with some of the characters at most.
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