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Nearly whole Japan population reads manga, right? I wonder what

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Nearly whole Japan population reads manga, right?

I wonder what kind of manga is made specifically for Salaryman or Housewifes. Most stuff avaible to westerners is focused on young population.

So what kind of stories woudl salaryman read? Some sport mangas, like golf? Or maybe some corporate slice of life.
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Nah they read to escape with young protagonists or some silly comedy.
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but I thought Japan hated anime and manga according to random anons!
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4-koma
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This is secretly a recommendation thread made by a Japanese salaryman.
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>>124697420
>being a japanese salaryman
It's like they want to be miserable.
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>>124697420
>corporate SoL
Is that a thing?
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NTR
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>>124697475
Japanese hate otaku and anime that panders to them
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>mangas
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>>124697599
no wonder
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>>124697475
Manga is ok because half the stores people read go on for like 10 years and they probably started them in middle school.
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>>124697420
>Nearly whole Japan population reads manga, right?
No. No they don't
The largest selling Manga in Japan is One Piece
Which by Volume sells around 20 Million a month
By 2014 Japan's populace is roughly 122 million
Meaning the most popular Manga in Japan currently only get 1/6th of the populace's attention
Try to actually research shit.
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>>124697658
>not entertaining the fact that an actual nip made this thread
I think you're reading too much into the question, anon
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>>124697658
Nobody cares about infants and old fucks.
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>>124697701
If OP was an actual nip, the message would have been shit out of Google Translate.
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>>124697658
>only get 1/6th of the populace's attention
>only
That's actually a very significant amount, though.
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>>124697658
>the entire population must read the same manga
>literally thousands of manga published every month
That does not an any way mean that most of the population doesn't read it.
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Manga was a mistake
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>>124697658
Because clearly that number means that every person in Japan who reads manga must also read One Piece. No way a larger swath of the population reads a bunch of other random shit. If there is one big popular thing it must be representative of everything and every person.
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>>124697658
What are magazines as opposed to tankoubon.
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>>124697658
>everyone reads only one manga
>its the same manga
>they buy the volume to read it and not the magazine
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>>124697732
Maybe he works as an interpreter like Rock.
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>>124697475
>Japan hated anime
True. Except the Miyazaki ones.

>and manga
Not really. Manga is a lot more appreciated by "normalfags".
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>>124697536
Yes.
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>>124697833
So the normies are into those stupid gameshows and idol bullshit?
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>>124697658
Except 1/6th of the TOTAL population is fucking huge.
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>>124697658
Wow I was thinking the same thing that noway would they all read manga. But you just pretty much proved they do.
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>>124697929
Seriously. You can't get 1/6 of the US population to agree on fucking anything.
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>>124697839
>city government
>corporate
Don't trip my autism
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>>124697912
Well, TV shows and idols/popstars are always mainstream things, no matter where you are.
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Kochikame
Why do you think it's still being made?
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Golgo 13.
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>>124697420
>I wonder what kind of manga is made specifically for Salaryman or Housewifes.

Have you never read a single issue of Morning, Business Jump, Big Comic, or slew of other seinen mags for older men??
I mean there are fuckloads of them.
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>corporate slice of life.

Salaryman Kintaro
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1. "Exciting" twists on everyday activities like food and corporate-type sports like golf and mahjong.
2. Sequels, spin-offs, and general continuations of manga from the 70s and 80s.

Weekly Manga Goraku is probably the most popular manga magazine for salarymen and middle-aged manga readers, and its comprised almost entirely of these two types of series.
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>>124698217
And then there the various Shima Kousaku series, there's like 10 of them.
Each having different affix representing Kousaku's current position (like Manager Shima Kousaku, President Shima Kousaku, etc)
Sold over 40 million copies, long running and popular.
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When in doubt, consult Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga.
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>>124698217
is it any good?
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>>124698384
Mediocre in my opinion, just like every Motomiya work ever.
The guy just churns out same shit like clockwork.
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Do these "corporate" manga, entail epic company drama? Like Bakuman, but instead of running manga, running companies?
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And then there's this, Oishinbo, one of the longest running (possibly THE longest running) cooking manga. And most definitely the most famous.
Sold over 100 million copies, one of the top selling manga of all time.
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Manga about milfs obviously
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>>124697420
Jojo.
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>>124698515

>MY COMPANY HAD 4 FISCAL LOSSES, I MUST COMMIT SEPPOKU
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>>124698519
It's on permanent hiatus right now because people got mad at a series of chapters that showed post-earthquake Fukushima in a bad light. It's kind of crazy.
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>>124697420
Housewives read Josei manga about 25 year old sluts getting with 10/10 elite businessmen
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>>124698515
Not like Bakuman. Depends on the manga obviously, but generally much more grounded and relatable issues. (common spouse dispute, financial disputes, workplace stress and/or conflict, etc)
Obviously there are more drama than real life to focus on being entertaining, but it's a lot closer to say, American TV dramas than something like Bakuman.
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>>124698596
The publisher has denied "permanency" of the hiatus, and so has the author.
For now it's just on "extended hiatus".
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>>124698599

I guess I just want a battle shounen with running big corporations.
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>>124698643
Ah, I see. It's been almost a whole year since the hiatus started, so it just feels like forever.
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And here's Kacho Baka Ichidai, from the author of Chromatie High School.

It's basically Chromatie HS in corporate setting, with a batshit silly supervisor as the MC.
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>>124698733
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>>124698534
MILFS are for young boys
Adults want young school girls
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>>124698793
I'm such an adult then.
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Here's a pretty famous one about finance.

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=9025
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=35527
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>>124698844
I really want to read this one. It looks pretty interesting. I don't know about all the posthumous sequels, though.
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>>124698664
Then how about this one?
Business Commando YAMAZAKI.

A Salaryman dies from overworking and is reborn as a cyborg warrior. He fights rival warriors from other corporation while getting his projects to take off.
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why is manga so creative?
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>>124698938
There's a fuckload of manga out there, it's practically a given that there will be some gems among them.
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Boys On the Run by the author of "I am a Hero" and Ressentiment, about a salaryman down on luck and fired from his job, begins his new life as a boxer.
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>>124698938
>>124699004
Keep in mind, every YEAR there are more than 10,000 different manga volumes published in Japan.

Every. Year.
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>>124698938
The nips are escapist by culture.
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>>124698938
It`s a lot cheaper to make manga than it is to make anime, therefore people they don`t have to resort to pandering everytime.
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There are 300+ manga magazines in publication, each running 12-20 different manga titles.
Manga volumes are slightly over 10,000 published per year.

What you see translated in English is literally a FRACTION of the industry.
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>>124699096
And so is the American mass media.
Just not hot on comics, instead we focus our shit on live action fantasies. TV shows, films, etc.
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>>124699214
Is there any culture that isn't escapist when given the chance? There may be people who are by necessity too preoccupied by day to day survival to have time to indulge in escapist fantasies, but in my experience most anyone who has the opportunity engages in some form of escapism.
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>>124699280

well, because its a cartoon its more escapist
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My personal favorite, Iihito. (literally "Nice Guy")
About a guy who is almost unrealistically nice and completely alien to the reality of the workplace, eventually wins the heart of everyone around him.
It was a charming title, and while the author is more known for Saishuu Heiki Kanojo (Ultimate She) which was a devastatingly gloomy fucking story, I've always liked Iihito better.
Own both titles though.
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>>124699313
I am not sure whether this post is satire or not, but it really is how people see it.
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>>124699313
>a drawn comic book about realities of workplace is more escapist than Back to the Future or Goonies because those are using real actors!

Sure thing buddy.
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>>124699313
I disagree. It might be easier to remember that it is just escapism than with live action, though.
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Why is Japanese culture so fucking two-faced?

You need to promote social harmony by being nice to your superiors, but you're free to talk shit about him with your buddies in a bar after work.
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>>124699483
>You need to promote social harmony by being nice to your superiors, but you're free to talk shit about him with your buddies in a bar after work.

And this is different from other parts of the world how?
Have you actually worked in your life, anon?
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>>124699483
Sometimes you don't like people but still have to work with or under them. You don't bring personal issues to the workplace unless you're a worthless cunt. You can bring personal issues to a bar night with buddies. This is neither two-faced nor exclusive to Japan.
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>>124699483
I don't think that's only a Japanese issue, half the world talk shit about people they dislike, I'll date to say that's completely normal.
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Kind of a wied question, but is there a manga series where salaryman get powers or something and have super natural battles with other salarymen?

I'm looking for inspiration for my own comic.
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>>124699483
So you want to talk shit to your superiors? Have you ever gotten a job?
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>>124699638
>>124698889
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>>124697420
Black lagoon was about a salary man, in the beginning.
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>>124697658
>Approximately one out of six people read/buy One Piece in Japan
Jesus fucking Christ. What yet has had this type of readership domination in the past?
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>>124699483
People do this all the time across the world. You have to show some people respect, but you don't have to like them or really respect them at all.
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>>124699723

Guess i missed that when looking through this thread.

Thanks for that, this looks like what I had in mind.
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>>124697717
>>124697658
>Nobody cares about infants and old fucks.
However, One Piece demographics was featured in a japanese news show. One Piece has significant penetration into the older adult population.
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>>124698309
Shima Kousaku series is ridiculous.
He gets promotion whenever he fucks random woman.
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>>124699806
But in Japan, they have a vocabulary for this kind of shit.
I'd say the facade thing is very important in Japan.
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>>124697420
Kodoku no Gurume
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>>124697658
But you are talking about manga volumes sold.
What about magazines (just like shonen jump - just example, i dont know any others), small 4koma series etc?
If 4coma series is placed in popular newspaper, i think it woudl be sold in much more copies than one piece.
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>>124697420

A lot of what Amazume Ryuta writes (excluding NtK and a some others) is directed towards that audience. I can't remember which, but in one of them the MC is an actual salaryman,
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>>124699952
>brown-nosing
>shit-talking
Yup, exclusively a Japanese only phenomena
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>>124699754
>>124699842

Please don't misinterpret the numbers. The poster posted the total sales of all volumes including back issues from distributors PER MONTH. Obviously, not all of those are new issues. Since new issues are released weekly, divide by FOUR and that is certainly not correct for the reason mentioned before.

So, how many actual unique buyers (not readers) are there? The number of people reading OP must be significantly larger than the number of buyers because people loan their copies out, other members in the same family will read that issue, if a library or shop buys that issue, it is read by many visitors, and pirates scan and upload it which means a zillion downloads occur via P2P.
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>>124697420
Housewives seem to have a particular appreciation for Gintama.
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>>124698519
Cooking Papa started 2 years later the Oishinbo start, but it already got volume 131, while Oishinbo is volume 111.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_Papa
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>>124697420
>I wonder what kind of manga is made
There is a lot of highly literate non-fighting-action manga out there. There is a lot of educational manga out there too. Some things are best taught by series of pictures because a picture is worth a thousand words err kanji characters. Some popular fiction works will get manga conversions and those become popular sales as well.

>>124697475
>but I thought Japan hated anime and manga according to random anons!
Don't confuse otaku with normal manga purchasers. The regular manga purchasers outnumber otaku by a huge amount in japan. Another thing to remember is that not everyone you see in Akiba or Shibuya anime/manga stores are otaku. People buy wherever it is convenient and the akiba stop on yamanote is certainly an easy stop to make as its on the other side of hibiya from shibuya.
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>This manga features the daily life of a young woman named Hana, who lives alone while her husband is away long-term for work. She's a little chubby, and she often cooks sloppy, but delicious, meals to eat in her sloppy, solitary home
It got a drama series and a french localization, not scanlated though.
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>>124700623
So it's pretty much Okusan if the Fat Wife was the main character?
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>>124700300
151 T.V.. episode.
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>>124700623
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>>124697420
>Nearly whole Japan population reads manga, right?

Rather, you'd be more correct to say that the Japanese population overall is more literate than the USA population which is broken down into english, spanish, and ebonics. The USA has a big wave of muslim immigrants from Africa and these new black immigrants are devoted to learning and literacy as compared to the prior usa black population. Despite being immigrants, their overall usa literacy level is HIGHER than the existing usa black population (local newspaper article since my area is one of the major areas where muslim immigrants have settled). So, to get a better idea of usa's negro literacy levels, if you remove the black muslim immigrants (which is majority of them), the usa black population literacy level would drop even further. Some people want to learn, but many don't because social welfare is good enough.
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>>124700623
>Hana-no-Zubora-Meshi
I read it. It was kinda boring...
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>>124700960
>>>/pol/
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>>124700960
Back to /pol/.
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>>124701008
>>124701027
What? But he's right. It's not even just black muslim immigrants, it's just immigrants in general.
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>>124700960
I am almost impressed that you managed to bring something like that into a discussion about manga.
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>>124700539
One Piece is not the most popular franchise in total sales monetary volume. The number one in annual sales earnings is actually Anpanman.
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>>124701103

kill niggers!

ahahahaha
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>>124701304
Uhh, okay.
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>>124701103
I hate blacks and Muslims as much as the next guy, but that shit is out of the threat, so please.
Back to /pol/.
>>124700300
Is this any good?, i need some food manga.
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I scanned this whole thing over a year ago but never got around to actually posting it. Maybe I'll do it this week.
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>>124701103
It's not a question of being right or wrong, it's a question of being wildly off-topic.
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>>124701399
please do.
Thats something about japanese salaryman life that fascinates me.
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>>124697420
Sasami-san
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>>124700300
>Cooking Papa
>Hepburn: Kukkingu Papa
>Cucking Papa

Uh-oh.
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>>124697420
>I wonder what kind of manga is made specifically for Salaryman or Housewifes.

I wonder how many housewives read Rapeman? That was a phenomenally successful manga series and even generated 7 theatrical movies. Rapeman is an antihero character who used rape as the tool towards solving problems.

>>124701419
>It's not a question of being right or wrong, it's a question of being wildly off-topic.
It's on topic when it relates to literacy comparisons due to the high rate of japanese reading manga as compared to the USA population reading anything at all. A reading population is necessary to sustain an industry whose market cap is large enough to allow niche titles on a wide variety of subjects.

>>124701112
>I am almost impressed that you managed to bring something like that into a discussion about manga
You'd be more impressed at how the author wrote Rapeman plots to use rape to solve or manage all kinds of serious problems. Rapeman runs a problem solving business. Can you imagine Obama solving the immigration issue with rape? Rapeman can solve it. Can you imagine how the republicans will find a viable candidate for the next USA presidential election? Let rapeman find the BEST candidate for them! Rapeman solves problems! When you have a big problem, hire Rapeman!

http://bakabt.me/129991-the-rapeman-xvid-480p-manly-subs.html

It's too bad the manga is too controversial to get scanlated in the USA. Rapeman's official business motto is "Righting wrongs through penetration".
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>>124697658
you've assembled some facts, but you have yet to assemble the relevant logic.
try to think.
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>>124700623
It's worth mentioning that the author is a very famous lolita-hentai artist that uses the penname Usakun when drawing hentai.
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>>124703190
I love Hyouge Mono, it's a shame it will never be translated.
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>>124703084
You really love Rapeman.
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>>124703084
>You'd be more impressed at how the author wrote Rapeman plots to use rape to solve or manage all kinds of serious problems
>Rapeman's official business motto is "Righting wrongs through penetration".

Rapeman would be unable to solve 4chan's problems. 4channers would deliberately misbehave just so Rapeman would rape them more....
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>>124703084
>>124700960
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>>124699749
I kind of want to read that. Was it interesting?
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