Why don't proactive girls win?

They never show up first.

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I'm trying to remember more girls whose efforts were in vain
This is kind of a stretch

>>124603317
People view it as slutty and manipulating.

I don't know about the general case, but Marika isn't going to win because she's a bitch.

>>124603661
How is it manipulative when someone is completely honest with what they want?

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this is a big stretch

>>124603317
They're never the first girl introduced, and the series would be over in a fucking week if they won.
>>124603762
They're hedonistic sluts.

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The one time I remember things working out for the girl after she confessed was this.

>>124603317
Being proactive just means you are trying hard, and ever hates the try hard.

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Because most of them are merely human. To be proactive and win, you have to be an eldrich horror from beyond space.

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Best girl

They terrify the herbivores.

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>>124603419
>they never show up first
But that's wrong.

>>124603317
Because betas can't handle them.

>>124603480
If this happens, I'm going to be deeply upset.

It's failing at self-insert fantasy if 8man doesn't find some self-worth and reciprocate the feelings of the girl who had been trying all along.

Because you watch harem series where they perpetuate the status quo to make money

MCs are indecisive dickheads to stretch out the story and >>124603947

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Proactive girl that won

>>124603947
I thought herbivores wanted to be chased down and eaten up.

That's their purpose in the world.

>>124603762
Herbivores don't eat lionesses.

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>>124603979
What is there to handle though? All you have to do is say yup! and you're good.

See: doujins

>>124603317
Crab won in the 5th episode.

>>124604073
>All you have to do is say yup! and you're good.

Beta's can't do this.

>>124604081
Crab was such a good girl that she overcame the odds

>>124604073
Betas will go "Huh, what did you say?" or avoid answering entirely.

>>124603317
Because people don't like desperate sluts. Why do you think tsunderes are so popular? Because you have to work for their affection. Aggressive girls offer no resistance and there's no challenge in winning them over.

>>124603317
Ore Monogatari and about 1/3 of the shoujo manga.
/thread

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>>124604163
>"Huh, what did you say?"

Are we over it yet?

>>124604073
>What is there to handle though? All you have to do is say yup! and you're good.
The one realistic thing about Genshiken's harem plot is that a herbivore will do goddamn anything to avoid making a committed answer about fucking anything.

>>124604183
>Why do you think tsunderes are so popular?
Because those people have immature mindsets like yours.

>>124603987
LNfags have been clamoring that Yukino is the one since forever

>>124604021
>>124604031
I thought we all want a lioness to chase us down and turn our world around.

Japs are beta

>>124604247
Girls in shoujo manga aren't proactive, a hot guy falls into their lap and they go along with it.

>>124604397
Yeah but LNfags are dumb. They never think about story structure or what makes sense, they just get distracted by shipping words, latch onto arc words, and get snooty over cheap serialized high school drama.

>>124604432
Exactly my point. We're pathetic faggots, which is why the mysterious girl waking up in your bed one morning to upend your life is such a common trope.

>>124604432
Want? Yes.

But herbivores are easily startled creatures, even if a lioness chases after them they run out of fear.

>>124604564
Well, getting chased down is the appeal.

>>124604564
It is not fun without struggling a bit before being captured.

>>124604564
You know from the onset though that she got you good.

>>124603317
because status quo

>>124603935
go home Y-san, nobody else likes Marika

>>124604706
Was she aggressive?

>>124604667
A lot of the time it isn't though. It isn't just that nothing happens, it's that the proactive girl loses all the time.

Think about how we always complain that the best girl loses in everything. Then think about how often the best girl is the proactive bro that actually loves the boy and makes moves, instead of the stuttering blushing designated winning heroine that has no chemistry at all.

>>124604734
Aggressively nice, yea

Yukimura won by taking the initiative.

>>124604776
The best kind, although having someone incredibly playful and forceful may be nice too.

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>>124604734
Aggressive tits and an angry belly.

>>124603317
There's a subtle difference between
>Hey Raku, I like you. Want to go out on a deito sometimes and see how things work out?
and
>Hey Raku, I've been obsessed with you since we met that one time ten years ago, I changed my entire personality because I believe you would like my new personality more, you're my fiance and the love of my life and I would never let you go.

The former is a proactive girl who knows what she wants and tries to get it. The latter is a loony that would probably pop holes in your condoms to get you to impregnate her and take responsibility.

>>124604706
>2015
>car still not fixed

Lazy cow.

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>>124603863
OH things also worked out here too

>>124604858
I would go full Hitler too.

>>124604868
Nisekoi is dumb which is why we started talking more generally.

>>124604892
I get that GC is shitty, but I don't know why people shit on this part so hard. Yeah Shu was a pussy before and then turned completely different, but that's completely understandable. It was entirely Soda and his shitter friends' fault that the one girl that cared for Shu died.

>>124605018
People shit on it? /a/ went wild when it happened.

>>124605086
Did you actually read the threads or just look at the catalog?

>>124605126
There were people celebrating, making Nazi/Holocaust jokes and arguing with moralfags. I am under the assumption that it is generally considered a high point in the series where it was shown the protag could have been something more than a bad Shinji clone.

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>>124605086
I know, but I'm pretty sure those reactions were mostly ironic, like the way people watch Valvrave and Cross Ange.
From what I've seen online, people evaluating the series as a normal show accuse that part of being inconsistent (in plot direction and tone) like the rest of the show.

>>124605185
>it is generally considered a high point in the series

Yes, of hilarity. Which is what we were watching for at that point.

>>124605236
Of course but Shu being a dick was refreshing. One of the only things I can care to remember.

>>124605307
I also remember the little kids jumping a 20 foot gap.

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You know what's rarer for a proactive girl winning?

A proactive nee-san winning.

This manga threw me off so much, honestly.

>>124603317
Because
BETAS authors.
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>>124603317
Yuki Onna won the NurarihyonBowl.

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>>124604700
I don't mind, I still like her.

>>124605437
it's kind of funny that this is manga is cakeXshota. I loved how protective she got when the reverse trap was flirting with him

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Implying this won't win. What kind of fucking taste.