My vote would go to Hideaki Anno.
Anno will lead the anime industry after Miyazaki dies.
Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry? I can't.
Anno's done almost nothing of note outside of Evangelion.
There is no "second Miyazaki." Every other director is absorbed within the industry to an extent that normalfags will never enjoy their works.
But it barely gets any attraction outside of Japan and hardcore fans unlike Miyazaki, the most people know is the toothbrush scene and they just write it off as another "anime" thing
Shonenshit like Wan Piss, Narutu, Bleach, Dragon Ball and HxH. Madoka. K-On. Haruhi. Ghost in the Shell. Shingeki no Kyojin. Studio Ghibli movies. Kill la Kill. Fullmetal Alchemist. Death Note. Sword Art Online. All the Gundam shit. Cowboy Bepop.
You're kidding yourself if you think Eva is "big" and anyone but degenerate otakus still care about that garbage. Plenty of anime have made as much or more noise in the world. Plebs and normies haven't even heard of Eva outside Japan.
bigger than Anno? nope
Anno is the most important person in anime industry right now. no matter you agree it or not, japanese believe it.
What was wrong with it. It developed the setting well and sets up for 4.0. No one's dick fell off when 1.0 came out but then 2.0 ended people were chopping off their own genitalia and mailing it to Anno.
Talent means loads of things I would say he is like the Don of the Industry though.
I don't think there is any person who is so talented and stands out from others.
This is the most talented person in the anime industry.
Oh okay, so then nothing was wrong with it if you fail to be able to explain what it was.
>Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry? I can't.
Oh yes I fucking can.
Fuck Gundam its part of the national culture at this point.
That's what evafags keep saying, and you were gullible enough to buy into their bullshit. Anno is a hack and Eva is garbage that had no positive influence on the anime industry besides revitalizing and changing the worst genre into something a litlle less retarded.
Eva is by no means an animation, sound, directorial, cinematographic or storytelling anime milestone.
And I'd like Anno more if he'd actually go back to animating things.
Nadia, the Secret of Blue Water
Actually, it's by far his best job overall.
Name ONE anime better than this masterpiece.
>Talent means loads of things I would say he is like the Don of the Industry though.
This here. Anno's talent in animation is solid, but more importantly he is also politically powerful within the industry.
He knows and influences a lot of important people (both animators, executive-types, as well as mainstream Japanese culture figures). He has done a lot of work in mentoring younger animators, both older individuals who are now established in the industry, as well as green upcoming talent.
One Piece, Pretty Cure and Yokai Watch are the kings of merchandising here.
Between Gundam and Evangelion, Gundam have more as well, but Gundam is also a far bigger franchise than Eva.
Anno is literally a hack and he admits himself
He admitted he chose the name Evangelion because it "sounded complicated"
He admitted throwing random christian symbols because it would make it look deep
I did not explain anything, therefore i did not fail at anything, is useless trying to explain why 3 is bad if you already think is fine, is like trying to reason with a wall or a rock, like i said enjoy yor movie, while being blissfully ignorant of the bigger picture
>Can you name anything bigger than Evangelion in the anime industry?
>Anno's done almost nothing of note outside of Evangelion.
His and her circumstances?
Nadia, the Secret of Blue Water?
>make a single successful series
>butcher it by making new movies
Anno is the George Lucas of anime.
My vote goes to Ikuhara or Yuasa.
>Anno's done almost nothing of note outside of Evangelion.
He's done a lot.
You probably weren't even born then, I was, it was a milestone.
Contrarians are killing /a/
Anno and Lucas have made much more than one successful series, what are you smoking?
I think of Indiana Jones before I think of Star Wars whenever Lucas is mentioned.
I see Makoto Shinkai more likely to fill the role of Miyazaki. Shinkai's movies are similar to Miyazaki's because their of their non-otaku nature and 11/10 cinematography.
>Nadia is garbage.
Only the island episodes (who were done in korea, iirc) are garbage.
Try and tell me the last 5 episodes (especially the Red Noah vs Neo Nautilus battle) are garbage so I can laugh at your face.
Also Gundam is big only in Japan, and Go nagai's works are actually bigger worldwide. Gudnamfags like you make me sick.
go fucking kill yourself
>Gundam is big only in Japan
And all of South Asia actually. Its worth more, has a bigger impact on the industry, and occupies a larger niche in both mainstream and pop-culture in Japan then Eva ever will.
Deal with it fag.
>Muh Go Nagai
Go ahead and pull out those numbers for Mazinger or Devil Man, I dare you.
Just the daily reminder that 3.0 came back to it's roots and you casuals who picked it up with the movies and never watched the series yet wanted to feel cool got assmad because you didn't understand shit.
God damn, okay gundamfags, your anime is big in Asia.
I even like Gundam myself (been collecting model kits since the 90s), I just hate pretentious, annoying Gundamfags who are ALWAYS triggered by Evangelion's popularity.
A nice thread? In /a/? Wow, great really great.
I agree, Anno is a genius in all the sense of the word, say what you want about Eva, but you can't deny it is the most authentic piece of animation ever made.
>Only cunt here is you.
I wasn't being a cunt, I just said I hate Gundamfags like you who are triggered everytime someone mentiones how popular Eva is
>b-b-b-ut Gundam is more popular!
Who the fuck cares, one show is a Real Robots show with many different series, and the other is a sort of tokusatsu/Ultraman parody anime of 26 episodes. That's why I laugh at gundamfags, they always need to get that rivarly thing with Evangelion going on when both franchises are too different.
What archtype is Shinji based off as a character? Show me the type that existed before Amuro in the 70s.
yes the guy thats show is exactly
bad guy shows up kicks good guys ass, good guy trains, kicks bad guys ass, rinse repeat endlessly, is talented lol.
i say this as a fan of dbz, seriously COME ON DUDE!!!
yes because, the rebuilds have terrible acting, characterization, special effects, oh wait they have none of that you god damn fucking faggot.
asuka and ritsuko got less back ground than they did in nge, but they still are far from being horrible characters the way everyone in the prequels where other than dooku.
>Gundam is garbage compared to Eva.
I know that this is a bait thread but that's taking it too far.
It's significantly easier to average higher (and it's not by much either with the first volume also edging Bakes and cutting into 6 digits) with 6-7 volumes than than with 20 so I don't really compare them in terms of averages or frankly at all but since people want to go down that road. Last I checked Gundam Seed Destiny wasn't dropping off into the sub 30K regions by the time the Seed Franchise proper 25th disc is out either. Chris the way they're doing Monogatari I half expect it to be in the 20-25K region by the time all is said and done and then Shaft is really fucked.
storywise and characterization wise it is, animation wise, its superior in areas.
like i just recently tried to watch gungam wing, i HATE asuka, but i would take watching her any day compared to watching that vapid damsel in distress, depthless, characterless main female character in wing. OMFG
>There is no sane person on this world that would tell you Gundam is worse than Eva in any measure.
ALL of the females in nge have more depth and background than then one in gundam wing, I FUCKING DEFY YOU, that is a fact mother fucker!
>but eva has much more influence
That kind of argument doesn't hold when Eva was influenced by 0079 (along with other Tomino works like Ideon). Evangelion, while being incredibly well received, also did not create a new genre while 0079 pioneered RR as we know it.
That said, it's not like I think Tomino is the biggest name in the industry either.
I never said I'm sane.
But this thread was about the bigger franchise and Gundam is miles ahead of Eva in terms of franchise popularity and influence on anime over the years.
But anon, female characters in anime spoil it.
I wish there were no females in anime ever.
Isn't that the message of Eva though? That when people are facing danger they show their true sadistic and survivalist natures. You can't blame any NGE character for being what they are.
Not even that other guy but if you can't see what's wrong with 3 you might be retarded. It was just characters acting dumb and doing retarded stuff for the sake of pushing the plot along in a very specific, contrived, and otherwise unlikely direction
Misato: HURRR SHINJI YOU CAUSED THIRD IMPACT BUT I WON'T TELL YOU OR EXPLAIN ANYTHING I'LL JUST YELL AND BE MAD FOR SEEMINGLY NO REASON DURRR
Doesn't put himself or his disciples (Nagano and Imagawa) on a pedestal above all criticism like how Miyazaki did with himself and Anno.
No, it's about being a person who wants to be social, normal, and loved, but can't.
This applies to people who deserve it, e.g. otakus; and people who don't deserve it, e.g. kids trained to be private military drones.
She hated it.
Nobody, at least not now.
Maybe in the 80s you could have argued it was Tomino and Anno in the 90s when the number of anime airing per year was far fewer. But the 2010s just lacks the unexplored territory of either of those ages.
>its the only gundam i have seen
Then stop trying to make generalizations about the metafranchise which you don't know anything about.
>from what i know is the most popular.
Also wrong, the only people I can imagine believing this are kids who grew up watching it on toonami.
then why fucking do it?>>124582585
>Misato: HURRR SHINJI YOU CAUSED THIRD IMPACT BUT I WON'T TELL YOU OR EXPLAIN ANYTHING I'LL JUST YELL AND BE MAD FOR SEEMINGLY NO REASON DURRR
14 years of war and misery is not a good reason ok. not want to completely break him as a human being by telling him the truth is not a good reason. ok bro.
Well the biggest title this decade he has under his belt is Madoka, only a lot of people seem to credit Urobuchi equally if not even more than Shinbo sometimes for that.
Regardless, a lot of Madoka's subject matter is derivative from a ton of older sources. That's not a bad thing either. It just lacks the punch of being novel.
The problem is that not telling Shinji what happened is contrary to Misato's goals. There's far more risk of him running or attempting to escape if he's confused and angry than if he's in the loop and incredibly depressed because of what happened. Misato should know this too.
That's irrelevant, Anno straight up admitted in an interview he based eva's ending and kaworu's character off the Devilman manga. Besides, Devilman is far from bad anyway, regardless of whether it's overrated or not
>anything bigger than eva
The bait prices must have dropped again cause you're practically giving it for free.
but as a matter of fact there's tons of things bigger than eva. gundam, most famous shonen such as Naruto, Bleach and OP, FMA, Shingeki, probably Monogatari, etc... .
And not only more famous, some of those are better without the need to appear overly deep and meaningful.
What really gets me is how there are people here who genuinely believe eva is a milestone, a masterpiece, and that Anno is great. it's like they haven't even watched it at all.
why are you guys deleteing the images or video with the eva praise? that shit was not fake this one was on the official original English trailer for eoe
Nice shit taste, now lets observe how Gundam created a sub-genre in mecha for real type robots and the amount of clones and knock-offs inspired by it.
Which includes Eva existing thanks to a combined influence from Yamato, 0079, and Ideon.
no reason to quite, you have not offered a single shred of evidence that anything i have said is retarted. not one single thing, you are the one behind throwing baseless cowardly insults instead of giving proof of your point of view.
Go back to tumblr, homo.