If I find this man and eat his heart, will I be able to steal his amazing drawing powers?
>Try to draw these days
>My tablet is unplugged and it's a pain in the ass to get it
>If I do get it I'm rusty and everything comes out crooked, and I get pissed off I don't have one of those expensive ones where you can see what you're drawing on it.
>Paper doesn't have ctrl+z
I know what you mean, man.
Only thing you should always keep in mind is "keep pushing". You're rusty now, you're rusty first 30minutes/hour/two, but eventually you'll feel that drawing satisfies you and that what you've drawn actually looks pretty decent. So, keep pushing.
It doesn't work like that. First, you must fall in love with eros and female body like never before. Then you work something out from there. Passion will drive you.
Oh, the stuff he says on his streams. "Ah, I'm so tired of that action, I want to draw an ero scene! I was born to draw ero scenes!"
This guy isn't even that good.
I'll give you a guide on how to draw like that.
Step 1: lrn 2 draw cute anime facerino.
Step 2: find reference
Step 3: draw what you see, replace 3D head with 2D head
>needing to erase
only losers need to erase.
I'm almost there in reaching the style for anime\manga in 3d, i'm mostly specialized in realistic non cell-shaded stuff.
But i guess i will reach almost perfect level with times.
I read Kakukaku Shikajika yesterday. I recommend it to everyone struggling with finding motivation for drawing.
You'll either find some motivation, or kill yourself.
He's talking out of his ass because it's obvious this particular mangaka doesn't trace/rely on reference material for his characters too much.
But... a TON of other mangaka do. 3D models or photos, but a lot of them use reference. It's still faster than constructing everything.
And for backgrounds, using reference photos is the default.
I've always been shit at drawing, but lately I've been thinking more and more about it. I'm also really uncreative, I can't come up with any original idea. Is there like a blog somewhere or something that I can follow to get an idea on how to get into drawing? I don't really have anything else to fill my time with except learning Japanese so it'd be nice to try something new.
Most of it was spent practicing penises.
I finally thing they look okay.
I should put this on my resume.
>I draw nice penises please hire me
>also can you give me and advance my tablets broken and I drew these penises with a mouse
>yes I am aware of the autism needed to draw with a mouse
>not using doll to make any pose you want for reference
It's still worse than pen. And tablets without screen still worse than tables with it.
>that awkward money when your scanner is broken and you don't have the money to buy a new one
>All the sketches you do for yourself are.... er too lewd, to scan at the public library
>All the sketches you do for 4chan or draw threads are also too lewd for the library (I mean, it's the drawthreads)
>Have to use your phone camera and then ink everything in photoshop.
One one hand, I've gotten very good with getting it right the first time on paper. Started with pencils anyways,
One the other hand, it's frustrating and slow.
The only other thing that I've draw recently and liked.
>Haven't drawn anything since august last year
>Haven't drawn anything I liked since April last year
>everything about Tsugumomo lives on within you
OP clearly says his "drawing powers". Even if you steal his joke-telling and storytelling powers along with that, you could never write and pen the Tsugumomo he'd have written.
>drawing skills are stored in the heart
>but for some reason nothing else isn't
That seems like an awfully arbitrary, weird and convenient rule.
It's more likely that if your skills are stored somewhere in your body to be passed on upon consumption, it's an all or nothing deal.
You're missing the point. Even if you steal all his skills, you can't write the Tsugumomo he would have, because you're not him. You don't have his knowledge or experiences or imagination, just raw skills.
Imagination can be argued to be a skill. Knowledge is collected information relying on memories. You don't have his memories, or experiences, or personality. You can only create a fanfiction tsugumomo, even if it's a good one.
You're stretching OP's post far beyond the breaking point. The only way you could write Tsugumomo is if you literally became him and forgot who you were. Even if you somehow absorbed his memories and experiences, your own memories and experiences would still color and change the work.
>tfw can't stick with any hobby for more than a month
I'm shitty at a bunch of stuff and good at absolutely nothing. Sometimes I want to pick up drawing again but then I masturbate and lose interest.
OP didn't think through what he wrote.
When somebody writes a story with FTL travel, and causality doesn't suffer from it, you can rest assured that he's disregarding the rule of relativity.
Certain things simply follow logically.
>I can't deal with this anymore.
Yep. One single mistake while you filling the blank and you have to make everything all over again. Not to mention paper instantly becoming useless trash. Fucking hell. Electronic paper when?
But OP didn't disregard shit, you're the one who's saying you'd be able to replace the artist and produce the exact Tsugumomo he'd have writen and, as I've pointed out, this is patently impossible no matter which way you decide to stretch you interpretation of the OP's situation.
You're forgetting the step where this gets you half a million dollars a year.
>But OP didn't disregard shit,
Apparently you already forgot the beginning of our conversation.
Do you want us to go through all of that again or will you just scroll up and read it?
I said I wouldn't deprive the world of Tsugumomo in exchange for drawing skills.
You argued one could replace the author if one absorbed his skills.
I explained this is not possible, because while you COULD make a convincing replacement for Tsugumomo, it would never be the Tsugumomo the original author would have made, regardless of how you chose to interpret OP's situation.
The real, original work. Your story would never be what he'd have done, you'd be depriving the world of the real Tsugumomo and replacing it with your perfectly drawn fanfiction.
But look how secure it is.
One day I'll be able to draw cute loli girls like him...
>The real, original work.
It's like saying your mother is no longer your mother because she aged since she gave birth to you and the change has removed her from the original state of your mother.
Fucking creative. Dat stability tho.
>scissor jack in the middle
Still probbly safer than me shoving five machines and six screens under a loft bed for no practical purpose.
There's a fine line between general western art and tumblr art. He's flirting with the line from a few feet but he's not crossed it. At least he can draw feet.
what mysteries do those folders hold ?!
Life drawing and illustration are pretty distinct disciplines, you won't get good at drawing what you imagine by just drawing what you see... though it helps. There's a lot more needed.
Well, unless you want to compose everything in your pictures out of reference photos, that's a way too.
You're confusing what we're talking about. It's the result, not the person. Just because the simile speaks of a person doesn't mean that it's referring to the person in the original scenario because we weren't even discussing him. We were only talking about his work.
>It's the result, not the person
Then don't come up with terrible analogies. If you murdered Akira Toriyama and replaced Dragon Ball's second half with "dragonball multiverse", you would have deprived the world of dragonball's second half and instead given it your own fanfiction. Assuming you could even trick the world that your work is toriyama's, that would be a logistical nightmare.
>Then don't come up with terrible analogies.
It's not terrible at all. You are just refusing to acknowledge it.
>replaced Dragon Ball's second half with "dragonball multiverse"
See? You're just bullshitting your way through this.
The existence of bad fanfiction does not mean that a person of the same skill as the original author (which, as I explained, is not limited to just his drawing skill) could not produce stuff of the same quality as the original material.
>mfw there's only 6 pages left but I can't get back into working tempo
>It's not terrible at all.
It is. The mother is a poor choice because it's a producer and not a product, you're literally turning the situation on it's head. And even then it doesn't work.
>that a person of the same skill as the original author could not produce stuff of the same quality as the original material.
This is irrelevant. Even if you had the skill to produce work of the same quality as Toriyama's (like that's such a high bar), by murdering him and stealing his abilities, you'd be depriving the world of the manga he WOULD HAVE WRITTEN, because even if you take everything about him, you would still not be him, and as a result would make something different.
So even if you could perfectly emulate Tsugumomo's art and writing style, you could never write the Tsugumomo the artist is going to. Just a good quality fanfiction..
>The mother is a poor choice because it's a producer and not a product, you're literally turning the situation on it's head.
Since you are directly experiencing your mother, but only directly experiencing the mangaka's manga, nope, you're missing the point.
The point being that just because a person (or a story telling style) changes with time does not make them a fake. It just means they evolved, as is natural for all living things.
>you'd be depriving the world of the manga he WOULD HAVE WRITTEN,
By the same logic you can accuse every single editor he ever had and his parents and everybody close to him (and basically everybody) for depriving the world of manga he "WOULD HAVE WRITTEN". So?
You got *a* story by him. You can't get them all.
>Haven't drawn in a long time
>Everything's coming out shit
>Keep at it
>In a very short time I'm drawing good shit by my standards.
>Start getting excited
>Stop for whatever reason
>try to get back to it
>everything's coming out shit
I've done this so many times.
Keep the drawings you make every time. You're probably improving every time you repeat this process, but because your sense is improving faster than your skills and you have no direct frame of reference, you think you're not.
At least that's what happened to me in the exact same situation.
>The point being that just because a person (or a story telling style) changes with time does not make them a fake
But if the person making the story is not the same, then yeah, it's fake.
>You got *a* story by him.
Which yours won't be, because you're a radically different person even if you absorb all his abilities, memories and experiences.
>Keep the drawings you make every time
I do, and I know I'm improving. I'm just really disappointed with myself because (not to toot my own horn) I'm letting this obvious blessing of mine stagnate.
>That a good man and the original work would be lost to gain my fanfiction writing powers
-good man - manga + manga + skill = - good man + skill
You're trading a man for the possession of his skill.
Since he basically is his skill (and his personality, it's basically
= - somebody else's personality + personal ability boost
-good man -mangaA + manga B + personal skill.
Not to mention you'd likely just draw porn for yourself instead of trying to finish Tsugumomo, and you'd be dissatisfied because fapping to your own porn is weird and uncomfortable (just like, I imagine, reading your own manga).
>-mangaA + manga B
It's quantum manga. So long as they don't exist both his and your manga have the potential to be either A or B and the superposition only collapses once you actually draw it. So no, A and B does not come into the equation.
There's nothing quantum about it. You're replacing a man with another that has his skills. Yours would never be his, because you're a fundamentally different person and this would affect your creation to be fundamentally different from his.
You'd deprive the world of his manga, you'd deprive yourself of his manga, and you'd murder a good man in exchange for skills that, while impressive, aren't impossible to achieve.
Not a good deal.
Actually I was expecting to be called out for the horrifyingly incorrect employment of terminology.
Quantum should never be used the way I used it.
I was talking shit in that last post. I apologize.
I like Tsugumomo and I think the mangaka is a decent artist, but if you think he's anywhere near as good as
Digital tools superior to analogue tools. Any mistake at any point easily correctable, you don't have to worry about your hand greasing paper or smearing ink, etc. You can't seriously argue with this.
>can't finish drawings of qt anime grill because shyness and lewd guilty
>can't finish vehicles because I spend a lot of time thinking in the technicalities of its components
>redone everything from zero because "this is not what I want"
>headache over trying to imagine what "I want"
>"rest" one week
Plz halp ;_;
I think you're trying to assign objective quality to one artist over another simply because he's using an artstyle you enjoy more.
They don't do things for you, though. You still have to be able to draw well to be able to draw digitally well.
Yes, they're more convenient. So what? The artist in >>124492619 is superb, but it's not because he draws on paper and pen markers.
The point is that drawing digitally is not a demerit and drawing on paper and pen is not a badge of honor. They're different mediums and instruments but the skill required to be great at either is great.
And the Tsugumomo guy can draw on pen and paper just as well, even if he's clearly more used to the tablet at this point.
that fucking chair, even the cat looks confused as to why he uses it also I notice he has that glove on his hand what is that for ? I've seen other people wear it but never knew why
he is great. detailed without being cluttered is great in manga. some mangakas have an interesting style, but get too cluttered, like one piss. some get too minimal. shame his manga isnt so great. still a fun read, but its nothing to influence.
Your hands constantly producing grease. And you know what grease doing with papers and screens.
This seems relevant to the thread
Well hey, now I drew something.
Last thing I drew months ago and only good thing about it is the hair. I sometimes think about participating in Drawfag threads but not sure if they'll be liked
>who already agreed on the point
Nope. But seems like I get it what started this Special Olympics race. >>124493861 was said about video, not about what >>124493158 wrote or argued against.
>I sometimes think about participating in Drawfag threads but not sure if they'll be liked
>but not sure if they'll be liked
Anon, who cares? You can always stop.
Also, if you don't want to hear critics, only praise, then you better go somewhere else.
I can do okay on just pad but when I'm rusty it's like I've never drawn in my life and I still can't draw a decent circle to save my life.
Made we want to draw micro bikinis.
In 20ish years I might be at his level.
Keep with it fam. Don't let laziness take away your talent
this was the last thing i drew two days ago or something,i need to get back to drawing every day though.
What I really need is to start drawing dozens of little sketches to work on my speed, but I can't I start one picture and spend half an hour or several on it, then I'm bored and stop.
Just buy some cheap gloves and cut off fingertips.
Just practice. Drawing is one of the easier hobbies to pick up, and probably the cheapest starting. Like everything you do, you're only gonna get good if you enjoy it and put work into it.
Now, photography, which is what I'm into, really is the rich boys' club. Takes me a lot of saving to buy lens, cameras, driving to places, keeping track of weather, lighting, etc. I should get a cheaper hobby.
>Watching him stream himself drawing a double page spread for Tsugumomo
>He's trying to get the curve on the blade of a Katana correct
>He pulls out an ACTUAL FUCKING KATANA and traces along the edge
I wonder what the thought process is when you decide to include a fucking sword in your drawing supplies?
Just practice, anon.
I'm not really good at drawing but at least i could feel the difference between the drawings that i've done when i first starting 2 years ago.
At least spare 30 minutes to 1 hour of your time a day only for drawing.
Even though I try to draw every day I feel like I've backslide in artistic ability. Things I drew years ago look better to me than stuff I did a week ago.
Nothing has made me feel as defeated as this realization.
indeed bro, and I'm loving the fuck out of it
I think you have to come to a midterm timewise. maybe adapt your drawing to the amount of time you like spending on a drawing. This >>124499793
drawing was simple and took me about 3 hours with lots of pauses in between This one was probably faster >>124500812 but I've spent more than a day on a drawing before.
Usually it requires me to be pretty much obsessed in finishing it.
How about the part where he bought a miko outfit and did fanservice poses in them for reference?
Look at the individual lines. They're jagged as fuck because he scratches them out rather than drawing them in a single stroke. That's the sort of thing you get flogged for in an art school.
Unless you try to look closer and see how fucking bad the lines are.
Like I said, it's my only complaint with his art.
I guess I see what you mean anon, and while it is advantageous to fix that habit his overall quality is so high I don't think I could give less of a fuck.
I'm not very good at drawing, I'm better than some, but not really.
Something you should really consider is learning traditional art and figure drawing before you start doing anything like manga or cartooning.
When I read a how-to manga book by an actual Japanese guy who can actually fucking draw manga, it's from a perspective that expects you to know that stuff already.
I'd say practicing really hard on drawing manga will be somewhat fruitless if you don't get the main components down (on which there are so many sources of information).
Again, I'm not very good. Most people's drawings here are miles better than what I can do. However I'll say one more thing. As with anything you want to be good at, you can't just practice, you have to want to practice.
You have to enjoy the act of getting better at something.
The artists I respect the most, and tend to enjoy the most are always improving and trying new things.
man i got all excited but it turned out he was a guy after all
In all seriousness, if you draw for that long and you're not improving very fast, you may be doing something wrong. Many artists fall into a rut always drawing the same thing in the same style and just stay stuck, for decades.
Just drawing is not enough. You have to actively try to improve by objectively looking at your shit and identifying what's bad.
It's clear he has a firm grasp on anatomy. Don't know why some anons feel the need to bash on Hamada-sensei.
If only I could see through myself to identify what is so bad.
This is why /ic/ exists
You could score a decent one at 50 to 70$.
That's how I got mine at least.
You're not going to get better on a tablet if you can't draw well on paper though.
I dream of the day a mangaka will draw on my back with their perfect touch.
I tried, still not used to the stupid tablet, but one day...
I bought a tablet years ago and could never get it to draw on my other monitor so I stopped using it. I have a dual tv + monitor set up and it's stuck on the tv. I don't want burn in. I tried unplugging the tv but the pen cursor doesn't show up on the monitor so I stopped drawing.
Oh I made that comic.
After making it I decided to step up my game and really practice drawing. What do you think /a/?
hes nota fraid to draw fat and the delicious meat folds.
How can one get away with so much loli rape in a non H manga.
You're like a very very very early ganmarei.
I've always like how creepy he makes his girls look. Nowadays they're more normal, but that unsettling aspect is still there.
I didn't knew that artist but he looks great, my main inspiration is Nijiiro MASK.
>it's the hips I think, why are they so thin?
They would crack open and kill her when she gives birth. So the arousal of impregnation is bigger for her.
first off check it out, this is a perfect example of trial and error, he didnt just shit shit out, he moved stuff and sized things and erased 100s of times, and it's clear the time he took for each peice
Drawing in real life is just tracing using your eyeballs son. You might start out looking worse than your photo traces but you will eventually surpass it and be able to make up perspectives and poses just because of the sheer volume of muscle and visual memory.
Seeing awesome rooms like this makes me want to give in and buy a Cintiq for myself.
I can get one second hand, barely used for a cheap price.
But I have a normal wacom tablet at home, so maybe I should just use that.
>too old to learn to draw
>by the time you're good you'll probably be half-dead from your shitty lifestyle and won't be able to enjoy it
Unless you're like 80 you have no excuse.
Hell, an 80-year old lady got good and successful as an artist at her age.
Getting to draw gud doesn't actually take that much time if you really work at it. There was one guy I heard he basically worked his arms into the hospital, but went from Zero to pretty awesome in a year.
The potential isn't what I mean, I'm sure I could be able to learn eventually. I mean that most of the good artists have been drawing for 10-15 years to get where they are and I'[ll be in my 40s by the time I'm as good as them. If I even make it that long.
Is it really that hard for westerners to pick up anime/manga-style illustration? I mean sure, you could try drawing those huge eyes, the wacky hair, exaggerated blushes and what not, but there's always this tinge of gaijin that always seems to remain. It's distinct. I've seen tumblr levels of "anime" and professional western mangaka, and they're very different from one another, but still quite far from what it's supposed to be.
What influences your illustrations? What references do you use for your style? Is it really just a westerner thing, or is there a much simpler answer to it? A much more complex one perhaps? It just boggles the mind, looking from an outsider's point of view.
This fails to point out that in failure, there's this chance of going back to realization. There's failing, and there's being a failure. The difference is one chooses to get back up after falling.
huge file, sorry.
Thanks, I always try to do different ear shapes to keep it interesting. Ill try to play with line weights more but I find it so hard to do digitally.
It's mostly exposure to specific techniques and drawing styles. Westerners tend to practice using western methods and teaching aids, which ends up producing distinct characteristics in their style. That said, I've seen plenty of talented western artists adopt very good manga styles since that's what they wanted and they put in the work to get good at that style.
the mouth is supposed to be calling out, the arms I just fucked up.
Relatively great western artists I could think of that offers how to draw videos and the like (save for the lot in DeviantArt) such as Mark Crilley, happens to be some of the most gateway artists on the internet who offers decent tutorials.
Aside from him, the style of other professional artists whose books I've read such as Christopher Hart are stuck in the 90's wherein anime/manga was a hit in the west. It seems as if anime/manga is no longer a worthwhile investment in modern day, that western professionals would no longer bother with it. Though, for good reason, seeing how anime and manga affect Japan.
There's a name I haven't heard in years. He was one of the first tutorials I looked into when I wanted to start drawing anime. I remember his art style looking fairly westernish, though.
>want to learn to draw
>buy drawing tablet
>the cord is about 3 feet long, impossible to draw with
>cord extender is $50 and third-party i.e. not trustworthy
waste of $80
The only real effects anime has on Japan is a stimulation of the economy.
Manga is a completely different thing. Putting it into the same category as anime speaks of ignorance.
Social-phobic world-shunners don't come into existence because anime exists. They come about because they can't find a place in the world. But they will flock to entertainment like anime.
Getfaggotry is against the rules. If you're surprised by your post's deletion, that's the reasion.
wire* its a wacom small manga touch i think
digitally edited fineliner drawing for comparison.
Git gud. I've been drawing with a shitty bamboo forever and I can do "decent". bad hardware doesn't really hinder your capability unless you're literally using KB+M.
That being said I want to learn to paint well like this.
But I feel I lack such a big sense of perspective and lighting that if I were to spend 8 hours on a piece I wouldn't get something as detailed as that, and I really don't know where to start or what to practice on for learning to do great detail like that. I practice and practice but If I were to draw something scaley I would need reference on how light works of scales/metal/plastic/etc.
>tfw have been using a wacom bamboo fun small for 6 years
One of the best artist I've seen. To be able to draw out an image like that without reference/sketch is pretty insane. Everyone has some starting point in general that they work out their piece, but he can just go and make a finished piece with strokes without a base.
Literally the exact one I have. been using it for years.
I think failing is just included in every single step. The failure node, on the other hand, means becoming a failure as opposed to just failing in general.