>want to read the LNs >the fan translations are fucking

>>124419462
>official translations never
Wasn't Yen Press going to release some?

>>124419462
http://www.yenpress.com/a-certain-magical-index/

>>124419533
Wrong quote?

>>124419462
Are you shittalking js06's translations, anon?
If you are then fuck you.

>>124419533
Just because he can write in passable English does not, in fact, make his work any good. The fact that simply not sounding like a third world ESL teenager is enough to make you the best fan translator ever just highlights how sad the LN translation scene is.

>>124419481
They have the first two books out. Some notable errors (as I've mentioned earlier, mistranslating "majin" as "demon god" instead of the proper term "magic god" is going to come back to haunt them once they get to SS2 and NT), but generally solid work.

「とある日常.36」更新!
http://www.ganganonline.com/comic/indexsan/

>>124419462
Are you reading the old translations by chance? I also thought it was shit until I found the edited volumes. It gets better as it goes.

There are only a couple good fan LN translators, and Index got one of them.

>>124419580
Finishing a volume in two weeks after it comes out in japan does make him the best LN fan translator though.

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>>124419623

At this point I'm just reading for the end. "The end" I'm referring to is the magic/science war and what happens to all of the characters as a whole, of course. I'm also in it to drink delicious tears of deluded shipperfags when Touma ends up with literally no one and forgotten or dead

>>124419580
>Just because he can write in passable English does not, in fact, make his work any good.
You're right. The fact he couples accurate translation with passable English and speed makes his work good.

>>124419640
This

>>124419687
forgotten is the most likely scenario right this second because Ib-Chan won't let him die even if its easier to do so by far.
this becomes especially evident in the othinus arc by the fact that as soon as he was supposed to "permanently" die othinus changed her mind at the last second.
or when will tan saved his dumb ass from committing suicide.

>>124419687
same here, I am losing interest on this series.

>>124419755
Could be both, to be honest. I get IB has kept him alive when it would have been better for him to die, but I'm not buying he's immortal because of it, which is what most Touma fanwankers want to believe. After all, he ages and what would IB do once he's too old to move? Move to another host which would mean he would die

>>124419462
>the fan translations are fucking abysmal
The writing style of lightnovels just suck no matter what language you read them in.

>>124419462
>Implying YenShit will be better
Fuck off, casual.

>>124419945
I find the parts about Touma (with the exception of bits of this last arc) to be incredibly dry. It's like when he shows up we automatically know there's going to be bad comedy, a lead up to a fight, he'll win, someone will develop feelings for him, repeat.

LNs are inherently written like trash so it's not actually the translation's fault

>>124419462
Except the translation is fine for the most part. Though I think Js06 localizes a bit too much.

Eastern writing style tend to differ from Western writingm In the case of LN that favors character narrative, subtlety, inference from vagueness, simplified but descriptive writing. Not to mention the obvious difference in languages that have no equivalent or the difference in culture.

If you can't enjoy LN writing, then it isn't for you. Stick to mediums that requires less thinking on your part then.

Official translations are pretty bad too. The NHK light novel has so many spelling and grammar errors in it that I'm surprised it got published.

LN thread?

>>124419894
heres something i'm going to point out here, with all the magical shit he knows and deals with on a regular basis now could very well at some point accidently render him immortal.

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Why did no characters die in the WW3 arc?

>>124419894
Doubt Kamachi's gonna kill Touman, forgotten would be more appropriate so he can finally live in peace in some remote island.
Free of headcrab, Electrical shit, and his fangirls.

Maybe he'd settle down with Himegami but that's just my wishful thinking

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>>124419462
There are translations coming out In a few years

>>124420438
>index characters dying after appearing one volume
it is literally impossible

>>124419462
The translation we have now isn't abysmal just step down from your pedestal and read it.
If you enjoy the indexverse enough you'll be fine.
If you don't then don't bother reading it at all.

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>>124420442
>Himegami

>>124419462
Index LN? Its shit. Tried reading vol 1 till 17. Its shit, can't continue anymore.

>>124420405
There's no way Touma could become "accidently" immortal. He might know things but he can't cast magic and no one could cast magic on him because of IB. He could read all the books Index has and learn every single thing Othinus knows and he still couldn't do jack shit unless there was something in there about separating him from IB permanently while leaving him alive

>>124420721
Ehh didn't you sort of like it when you got to volume 15?

>>124420442
I feel the exact opposite. He called himself a normal high school boy and his dry slice of life scenes might make it seem like it, he's not. Even if it's what he wants, I don't see him having any kind of future.

>>124420721
>didn't like vol 15
>didn't read vol 19
>didn't read vol 20 through 22
>dind't meet SLUThinus
>"It's shit"
Stop what you are doing and continue reading please.

>>124420997
>you're not allowed to call something shit when half of the volumes are shit

>>124420721
>missing the glorious ride which is WW 3
>missing War Hero Touma who is infinite better than regular Touma.
>missing best villain of the series
>missing Carissa's sexy banters
>missing based Pope
>missing Accelerator vs Touma round 2
>missing super Hamazura-y robbing robbers.
>missing Accelerator using magic
>missing Accelerator getting wrecked by no less than 200 millions of meteors.
>missing Misaka BEST
>missing terrorist Misaka and 10777
>missing Accelerator torturing Russian spies
shit, dude, I dropped this shit since NT, but GRS Arc was glorious, if I have to say.

>>124419604
You're a lying sack of shit. The fans distorted Demon God into Magic God because of autism. Demon God is the correct term. The literal definition of Demon God is a god that has the power and the intent to distort the world. This is not up for debate. Anyone who can read and understand the Japanese language knows this much. It really is sad how many secondaries are entirely corrupted by second-hand information these days.

>>124421500
>missing the gloriousness that is the othinus arc
anon plz, the gremlin crap is boring but seriously, touma stops being a complete faggot finally in NT 9.

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>>124421500
You're no better
>missing Drunk Touma
>missing Touma running around Biribiri's school
>missing Othinus banter
>missing Omega World
>missing two Thor fistfights
>missing Will the Best Misaka
>missing Touma being beaten to paste
>missing Birdway
>missing Misaki arc
>missing this

>>124421883
Touma swings from shitty plot armor protag to competent male lead very often tho. And I rarely like anything involving omnipotence.

>>124421903
>missing Drunk Touma
I've read that part and the parody at least, I don't drop something without giving it a try.

it took 22 +8 volumes to make Touma not a massive faggot and whats worse his all PTSD and have a stockholm syndrome for the person wo tortured him and likewise.

>>124421500
>>124421883
>>124421903
>>124422135
Drunk Touma > War Hero > pre-amnesia Touma > NT Touma >>>>>>>>>>>>>> post-amnesia Touma.

>>124422379
>ptsd touma > all of that shit

>>124422379
PTSD Touma is best Touma.

>people not liking NT
>the only volumes where touma actually gets character development

>>124422605
>>124422632
>Taking pleasure in watching poor Touman suffers
You should be ashamed

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At the same time as the queen spoke those words, an explosive noise resounded
throughout the area. Carissa realized that it was the sound of a tremendous number of
people’s footsteps, and servants, gardeners, and others who had no real knowledge of
magic rushed in making up a sizable threat.
People from across the United Kingdom were gathering beneath the Union Jack to
protect their country.

>this will never be animated
>this will never be animated while this plays in the background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tJYN-eG1zk

>>124422671
>not liking selfish 100000000 year old kung fu master Touman

>>124423024
>100000000 year old kung fu master Touman
It was a joke

>>124420624
What is NT4?

>in the crossover Touma is forced to become the leader of a bunch of fucktards
>gets no respect at all
>gets somehow tossed by Index to stop two divine beings from fighting
>his suggestion of actually talking things out instead of fighting is shot down

I can only wish for Touma to finally die so that his suffering will end.

>>124423551
>kagun
>alive
he was dead anon

>>124421828
>Magic God because of autism
Isn't it better though: there are no demons in Index and only people who reached certain levels of Magic becomes majins. They're definitely not demons, hence magic gods > demon gods.

>>124419604
>once they get to SS2 and NT
Let's hope they get there 2 years AFTER NT is done.

>>124421828
Using "magic god" instead of "demon god" makes it more neutral when it comes to magic formats.

>>124423589
All I'm waiting for is Touma just goes fuck it and snap as keikaku intended

>>124423589
>in the crossover Touma is forced to become the leader of a bunch of fucktards

Good luck to him trying to reel in Heivia and Quenser into order.

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Tell me /a/. Did I do the right thing?

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>>124423589
>mfw he is bullied for being the rational one
>mfw his getting ganged up and being bullied and treated like a villain
>mfw he doesnt deserve this shit
Fuck, Othinus was the only one who actually give him a favor by overpowering Odin's existence and holding him down for a second or minutee to give them a 1% chance.

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>>124420291
>Stick to mediums that requires less thinking on your part then.

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>>124424286
And after all that fiasco after the Othinus arc, he's still treated like shit by Index. Fuck the only people who understand and sympathizes with Touma are either turned to a fairy or forced to not remember them

>>124424563
People will bitch and whine endlessly about how Index and Mikoto treat Touma while showering undeserved praise on Othinus. She doesn't understand or sympathize with Touma. She literally dragged him through hells that no one in this series can imagine and then changed her mind at the last minute. No one can truly understand Touma because now he is simply a tool and the sum of his achievements. He's been mind wiped multiple times and forced to play the Hero archetype, and that's not even counting how NT9 affected him. There is no Kamijou Touma anymore he's a puppet.

>>124425032
Nice try, Crowley. That illusion of yours will be broken, you'll see

>>124425032
A depressing thought.

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>>124425032
Oddly enough Touma is more of a person compared to a puppet now than he was before NT9. That hell, the Omega world, and his talk with the Will really forced him to think of himself a bit, and I like it.

>>124424230
Sure, if you like it.

>>124425032
Kamijou Touma is an Archetype.
>yfw that is Crowley's goal all along

Demon King Touma when?

>>124425032
nt12 kinda bothered me how Touma passed of the win to Aihana .

>>124424230
Wish I could buy it in my country.

>>124426426
I bought it on Amazon. I don't know where else you'd get that.
I mean even our german variant has it.

>>124419462
>>the fan translations are fucking abysmal
>this obvious bait

>>124419640
>trying this hard

Pathetic.
Is this the new groove of the Raildex shitposter?

>>124419604
>Yen Press
>solid work

They are garbage compared to js06.
No reason to read them.

>>124425032
>There is no Kamijou Touma anymore he's a puppet.
What? He's more alive now than ever. He's finally included himself in the happy ending he wants to give everyone although he still won't hesitate to hurt himself if it will mean he can help someone else.

It's true that he did suffer but he came out of it stronger than ever. Birdway's line about Touma's core not being changed even after seeing the end of the world was like the summary of what Kamachi wanted to express. No amount of suffering will make him change his mind about what he wants to do and that is to help people.

NT10 made a big deal about how everyone else lost to their fear, anger or hatred and those people barely even faced a fraction of the suffering Touma did. Touma literally faced billions of hellworlds and he still decided to understand and help the one who put him through it. Touma's not a hypocrite who'd abandon his ideals after merely a billion hellworlds.

In return, Othinus who Touma chose to understand reciprocated by giving up her own dream in order to restore Touma's old world even if it will make her the enemy of the world. In fact, NT10 was them repeatedly wanting to sacrifice themselves for the other with Othinus wanting Touma to abandon her but Touma refusing every time. It was the understanding born from mutual brokenness which led to them not wanting to hurt the other person. It concluded with Othinus wanting to kill herself fighting Touma so Touma can end up being the hero again but Touma refused it yet again.

It wasn't Stockholm syndrome that people keep parroting because Stockholm syndrome misses the point in how Touma's actions were portrayed to be a sign of strength instead of weakness. He may have suffered residual trauma as shown in NT12 but that's natural. It'd be cheap if Touma came out of it without any damage and Othinus' talk helped snapped him out of some of his worries.

Finished vol 1-22 should i bother with side stories or jump straight to NT?

>>124427109
Read the SP and Norse ones at least if you don't feel like reading it all.

>>124419497
fuck yenpress they take forever to do shit so fuck them.

>>124425032
>dragged him into hell
funny how Touma said a while ago that he will drag index out of hell and ironically he is dragged and pulled out of hell coincidentality.

>>124427109
Assuming you've read SS1 and SS2 (you should have), only Norse Mythology is totally necessary if you can't be bothered with all of them.

So is The Keikaku back on the rails after WWIII or is Aleister still trying to fix shit?

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Can someone remind me what volume was touma drunk again because i actually don't remember that.

>>124428728
Nigga, it was all keikaku even Othinus

>>124428793
NT2, I think. Could've been NT1 though, they kind of blend together in my head.

WW3>Othinus arc.

>>124428910
Thanks, Captain Obvious.

>>124428910
Battle royal arc > ww3

Baggage city arc is the best NT's arc

>>124428910
Arguable. They're both great.

>>124429002
Nah.

>>124428910
othinus > halloween > ww3 > NT4 > battle royal = acqua

We argue about the best but which is the worst volume?

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>>124428910
>No characters died despite it being a world war

>>124429148
pretty sure NT2 is the worse

>>124429172
Touma was on the scene. Let's blame him if someone dies because he's not around.

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>>124429002
Aqua of the back arc> battle royale.

>>124429148
NT5 and NT11

>>124429148
Ice Ships, NT1 and NT2 were pretty bad.

>>124429199
Call me crazy but I actually enjoyed NT2 more than NT11

>>124429217
NT5 wasn't that bad.

>>124429091
I would have said the Othinus arc was better if NT10 wasn't so shit.

>>124429250
but why, it is largely a fact dump.

>>124429148
OT vol. 7 9 10 11 12

>>124421828
It specifically says a sentence later that 魔人 refers to "magic" god and not "demon" god.

>Magicians called such a being a magic god.

>Not the god of the demon world, but a magician who had thoroughly mastered magic
to the point of entering the domain of god.

>A magic god.


>>124425032
Because Othinus is kind.

>>124429324
I cared more about what was going on in that volume than NT11. This is even considering that I find Misaki to be in the top 3 hottest Raildex girl.

Cant wait for more faggots blaming Touma for not saving them.

i think NT10 would be fine if it cut out the bad chapters, the ones that are necessary tend to be done right.
NT10
with
accel
thor
othinus
america
final fight with othinus
and maybe mikoto

>>124429477
Can't wait for Mjolnir calling up Touma and Marian blaming Touma some more.

>>124429250
But NT2 is much better than NT 11. There is nothing wrong with that.

>>124429477
It'll become a new meme together with "Othinus is kind".

Birdway centric volume fucking when?

>>124429506
Also would have been great if othinus didn't have to turn in to some little shit and no one doing nothing to her. Might as well kill her off instead of that shit unless he has plans for her to regain her normal self or something.

>>124426307
i like it, there wan't any reason for him to deserve it more than kano

>>124429594
She was going to die. But the magic gods said fuck that and revived her in a form that she wouldn't be able to do anything anymore.

>>124429594
>crossover turns out to be canon
>it turns out she was merely pretending
>1% of infinity is still infinity after all

Hijacking Odin and shit just to help Touma.

>>124426604
if by "alive" you mean having PSTD and having Stockholm Syndrome. You can use pretty words and post walls of text about how awesome Touma is and how great he and Othinus' relationship is all day if you want. But it's not going to change the fact she personally made him suffer far more than anyone else and he came out of it all with an unhealthy emotional attachment. Also, he's still a puppet.

>>124429626
wouldn't she?

>>124429594
>thinking she is powerless
also i think she can live but i hated that roberto tried to justify it to the world, better to have them think she crumbled into dust.

>>124429506
Touma being beaten into becoming paste and Othinus begging to kill her instead was great. Also theres also that statement how each one would go into a sudden transformation if one is killed in front of each other.

>>124429673
Well if the crossover is canon, then they fucked up and only made it so she wouldn't blow up the world with her presence.

>>124429664
what is a puppet?

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>>124429662
>crossover canon

>>124429664
It's okay because Othinus is kind.

>>124429664
>touma
>hating anyone
anon he saved fiamma's life, a guy who was going to kill most of the world. it's not stockholm it is his normal personality.

>>124429738
why not?

>>124429704
forgot that one

>>124429774
And that's why he is a faggot and deserves to suffer more.

>>124429664
Stockholme Syndrome and Lima Syndrome works perfectly well when each person got it.

>>124429738
>implying kamachi won't reference it in the main storyline
remember that he uses nagaispace

>>124429662
>yfw Touma just had such a terrible time in norse land that he just doesn't want to remember it.

What would happen if at the end of NT 9 touma decided to kill othinus instead?

>>124429746
idk why, it may be just a single line but kinda made me wonder


what the fuck is wrong with him calling the one who tortures and mindbreak him "kind"

>>124429855
Then he wouldn't be Touma anymore.

>>124429664
But I don't even deny the suffering. You calling him a puppet and denying that Touma's portrayal was supposed to be one of strength isn't being faithful to the text.

Just dismissing it as Stockholm syndrome is stupid when the text clearly shows it otherwise. Touma saying his SoGeBu line wasn't weakness or pure dependence. It was him deciding for himself.

Calling it Stockholm Syndrome when it's the same thing he would do for anyone is just silly. The moment that he realizes that he can come to an understanding with someone, that's the point that the person he's facing stops being and enemy and someone that he needs to help. Fiamma threw the world into war and hijacked Index but Touma helped him when he realized Fiamma only needed to see and understand the world more. This is done at the cost of his escape method.

>>124429861
Because Touma's strong. He's the one who can save and understand a dragon instead of killing it.

>>124429861
He called her kind because in the end, despite everything that happened she still chose to give him back his world and sacrifice hers. He wasn't sure if St. Germain would be that nice and reasonable enough to talk with when he thought he was a magic god.

>>124429838
>gets bullied the fuck out by being rational
>being accuse of being a peeping tom
>treated like shit and his opinion nil
>force to deal with constant attacks from mikoto and bitching
>had to deal with Hel
>gets thrown by Index into a fight between Divine beings
>gets stuck into a void and almost started despairing until Othinus pulled him out


gee i wonder.

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So when is my boy becoming the protag of a novel again instead of that faggot Touma?

>>124429984
When Accel actually starts becoming relevant in his own dumb manga.

>>124429861
Othinus gave up her dream for him and repeatedly wanted him to abandon her just so he can live a normal life again. Touma went through the same shit Othinus did so he will never allow it. Basically, Othinus did what Touma would have done. Sacrifice herself for someone else.

Denying Othinus would be like denying himself. It's the same for Hamazura. People may hate Shiage but it's what Touma would have done.

>>124429954
>forced to take on the leadership role because everyone else is too preoccupied with themselves.

>>124430035
How long do you think that manga gonna last for?

>>124429984
But Accel became the faggot always wanting the T from Touma, he's not even Othinus level, so he's jobber now

>>124419462
>Hating on js06 translations

Holy shit you are a piece of shit.

>>124430127
As long as Kamachi wants it since it's selling well enough to not be cancelled.

>>124429984
when he finally appears in his fucking manga for fucks. to aru NO accelarator

>>124429984
Go away Accel. Hamazura's more of a protag than you.

>>124426465
the LN has an official german translation?

>>124428793
NT02 and that one parody.

>>124428910
>>124429002
>>124429094
WW 3 > Dragon = British Halloween > Battle Royale = Acqua of the Back > 0930 > Document of Constantine > NT01 > NT10 > shit > everything else.
The parodies and side stories are enjoyable tho.

>>124430145
early lns are not jso6

>>124429954
wat where is this coming from?
also
>until Othinus pulled him out
i though she has no power now?

>>124430275
>he doesn't know about the crossover

>>124430275
It's why people keep thinking that she's merely pretending so that she can stay with Touma.

>>124429891
Touma is simply a tool being used, anon. He's "strong" simply because he has a unique power that Crowley needs and he's gained loyal followers by using said powers in the way Crowley wants him to use them.

>>124430242
You mean OT touma and also he has shit taste in girls.

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>immune to Touma's charms

Fukiyose has an important place in Aleister's plan.

>>124430366
>immune
She didn't like that one day (when he lost his memories) Touma suddenly stopped hitting on her.

>>124430339
Well, obviously we can't come to an understanding if you're convinced that's what the story tried to tell. He may be treated as a tool by someone else for a keikaku but he's not merely a tool.

I tried my best to come to an understanding with you but if that's what you want to think, that's fine. Let's just agree to disagree.

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>>124430366
She also got upset when Seria tried to make her give that love letter to Touma

>>124430366
Think we'll ever get a Fukiyose volume? A Seria volume would be nice too just as long as it isn't like Misaki's.

There's only a few things left untranslated for Index:
Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Gaiden - New Testament: A Certain Magical Index Gaiden
(published in Dengeki Smile Bunko, connect! Bonds of Hope!!) (29/12/2011)

Toaru Majutsu no Index Shokuhou Misaki Figurine Hen - A Certain Magical Index Shokuhou Misaki Figurine Arc
(Purchase Bonus with Shokuhou Misaki Bunny Maid Figurine) (Late July 2015)

Toaru Hourou no Imagine Breaker - A Certain Wandering Imagine Breaker
(published in Limited Edition Ichiban Kuji S Rank Prize for Kamachi's 10th Anniversary) (29/11/2014)

Chou Shinragakuteki Genshou Hajimemashita - I Started a Parapsychological Phenomena
(published in Toaru Majutsu no Index 10th Anniversary Story Underlay 1) (05/10/2014)

Hitokuitora - Man Eating Tiger (?? Potential double meaning due to lack of kanji)
(published in Toaru Majutsu no Index 10th Anniversary Story Underlay 2) (05/10/2014)

Toaru Majutsu no Index VS Durarara!! Academy City Arc; Ikebukuro Arc
(published in Dengeki Bunko Official Pirate Book "Dengeki VS") (05/10/2014)

Ore no "Mikouto" ga Konna ni Abare Mawaru Wake ga Nai

>>124421828
Ignorantfag, pls. You didn't even read the actual line. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

>wanting to read LNs

All LNs are crudely written shit aimed at emotionally stunted nip 14 year olds.
You could argue that this is the case with anime as well, but anime can at least defend itself through other aspects while LNs have literally nothing going for them.
Grow the fuck up and read a real book.

>“What meaning is there in that?”

>“There is none. She is thinking too highly of herself. We sea gods cannot influence major events, so her idea is doomed to fail from the very beginning. Even if it all succeeded and even if she transformed into something else, she would still be unable to protect anything.”

>“That’s not what I meant!! Who would think they’d been saved if they were protected like that!?”

>“…”

>“I don’t know what exactly to do, but let’s go save her. Just tell me what I have to do!!”

>“We are the sea king. We cannot influence history. Just as Rán will fail, we too will-…”

>“Shut up!! That’s not what I’m talking about!!”

>Kamijou cut him off and stared directly at the surprised god.

>“Then why did you even speak to me!? Rán-chan’s your wife, isn’t she? You did something because you didn’t want to sit idly by and lose everything for a decent-sounding reason like saving the world and everyone in it, right!? Then stick with it to the end. You may fail, but the rest of us will make up for it!! What did you want to do from the very beginning!?”

Touma talking to and saving gods again.

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>tfw Touma is broken to the point he needs the kind Othinus to keep him sane


The man will only see more suffering when the gods come to fuck with him.

>>124431126
>implying Aleister isn't protecting him from those mean magic god stalkers

>>124431222
>implying Touma suffering isn't part of the grand keikaku

>>124429836
No, he doesn't. He referenced the parts he himself made, not Nagai's changes.

>>124423589
I thought you were joking. Holy shit.

>Starting with Mikoto and Heivia, sparks flew between the girls and boys.
>The only one they could rely on here was their big brother in spirit, Kamijou Touma.
>“C-calm down,” said the gentleman. “We all want to get back home, so instead of fighting, we should try working togeth-…”
>“Shut up!! Let’s attack him first!!!!!!” the rest shouted.
>After they created a great cloud of dust filled with flying star marks, they stood around the pointy-haired idiot who could only crawl along the deck with his clothes about to fall off.
>“I-I really think this treatment is unacceptable…”
>No one listened to what the bastard said.

>>124430267
He did volume 1 and most of 3.

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>>124429343
>12
Pleb taste detected.

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>>124420826
>>124420997
>>124421500
I don't have any problem with its average-ass-dumb-shit events/storyline (Why do you think I can endure the whole 17 vol?). What put me off the most is the writing. Either the structure and/or the style. I could read the spoiler/summary just fine. But to chew the actual LN content? No, thanks.

Stop pretending its cool shit! It isn't. It just full of chuunibyo bullshit. And yes, Heavy Object is arguably better written.

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>>124431375
>Touma's face when

Oh wow, he truly is suffering. Wasn't Touma suffering since he was a child? Will there ever be Touma hometown arc?

i dont think Touma's torture isnt that bad.

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>>124431792
my brethren of African American descent

>>124431414
Not all of them. Only the prologue and ch4+ of vol 1, and I think ch2+ of vol 3.

>>124433211
He retranslated all of volume 1 years ago. The only parts of volume 3 he didn't do were the prologue and chapter 1, like you said.

>>124432277
>the structure and/or the style
The old volumes suffer from bad translation. And nobody bother to edit them since the majority don't care enough and just start reading from volume 14. Jesus fuck, even vol 19 and 21 have some parts which was translated from a Chinese translation.

>Heavy Object is arguably better written.
It has better translator than about half of OT's contents. Not to mention Index was Kamachi's first series, I wouldn't be surprised if Heavy Object is better written than it.

>>124432277
>heavy object
>good
if you like reading the same shit and the same procedure and more faggotry then i wont stop you

even the simple survey is better than index and H.O

>>124433610
Plenty of people edited the old volumes. The current PDFs are far different than what was originally translated. The problem is the fact that there are way too many errors in the translation, since they were translated from Chinese.

Combine that with the fact that you can't find OT on BT anymore means that you have to wait until the YP version comes out and it integrated into the PDFs.

>>124434174
>Combine that with the fact that you can't find OT on BT anymore means that you have to wait until the YP version comes out and it integrated into the PDFs.
The BT OT versions survive, they are preserved in a mediafire.

>>124434598
I know that. What I mean is that people can't just easily edit things in those volumes on a single wiki-style site.

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Reminder.

>It was 8:00am when disaster struck the Matthews family household. David Matthews had committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a revolver.

>David Matthews was an ordinary man with two daughters and a wife. His day job is being a translator at Yen Press, specifically at translating Japanese material into English. Investigations by the police revealed that Matthews was a diligent, optimistic worker in the past.

>"Never missed a deadline and always provided top quality translations," said Peter Hennings, a coworker of Matthews', "But that all changed one day when he began working on A Certain Magical Index."

>Matthews was quite positive, at first, that he could translate all 30 novels of A Certain Magical Index within one year. However, as time went on, he became noticeably harsher. His work quality slowed to a crawl and he frequently began crying without apparent cause. Recent investigations have also revealed traces of heroin and marijuana in his desk. It is believed that Matthews consumed drugs to stave off his stress.

>In his suicide note, he writes:

>"I'm done. I can't take this anymore. All of this complex furigana, these screwed up themes, this damned long length! There's no way I can finish all of this in a year! And what about after that? Kazuma Kamachi will release more and more novels - faster than I can translate them. I can't do this any more. Yen Press made a mistake to acquire rights for Index. I don't know who this Jay Ess Zero-Six fellow is, but he must be a monster incarnate to be able to translate all of the novels without losing his sanity. You win this time. No, it's your victory forever. I'm going."

>>124430260
It doesn't, I got the english version there.

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>>124436274
too bad then, I thought I might try reading the german version.

>>124436255
> I don't know who this Jay Ess Zero-Six fellow is
kek
God bless our loli translator.

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>>124436274
Eine deutsche Version würde mich persönlich nicht wirklich interessieren, wenn sie von der englischen aus übersetzt werden würde wie es normalerweise immer üblich ist soweit ich weiß

Ich geh mal stark davon aus dass die offizielle englische Version von dem japanischen Original aus übersetzt wird anstatt von der chinesischen Version

>>124435809
shit theory

>>124437036
Do they really translate stuffs from Chinese scan? I thought there'd be quite number of Japanese translator there.

Also, do they translate everything include character's names and location? that shit is just dumb.

Thor has some weird looking face. His clothing is pretty cool though.

>>124435809
>mikoto is weaker than a ten year old girl

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>>124437669
>Do they really translate stuffs from Chinese scan? I thought there'd be quite number of Japanese translator there

I wrote that I hope they do have J-E TL´s, cause J-C-E sucks fucking dick, especially if shit then get´s translated from english to various other languages, then it´s inaccurate as fuck

>Also, do they translate everything include character's names and location?

I rarely read german translations, but it´s just like with english translations from what I´ve read, sometimes they do change it, sometimes they don´t

It´s usually really bad when they do and never fits

Though I´d like to see what they translate majin/magic god to, cause "Magie Gott" would sound better than both of those

Reminder that Frenda a shit and worst girl.

Will we ever see more of Mitsuari?

>>124419462
js06 is faster and better than any other fan translator for LNs out there.

Not as good as official stuff, but still not bad at all compared to what's out there. Also the early novels aren't as good as the later ones. That and Kamachi's also gotten better at writing since then

>>124425032
The reason Othinus can sympathize is specifically because she dragged him through hell. The whole point was that Othinus had already gone through everything she forced on Touma and more, which suddenly forced her into confronting the understanding that she created exactly what she was looking for.

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>>124440343
Doesn't change the fact that she's a cunt, even if she did it for a reason.

>>124440443
Well, that's pretty much something Othinus herself admits.

>>124440443
Isn't that part of why she refused salvation? Touma didn't want it to end with her killing herself because that's just her running away from her responsibility of atoning for everything she did. It's like the demon king of a story who really committed atoricities being rehabilitated and trying to live a proper life instead of the hero just killing the demon king and ending the story. You can't show a story like that without actually having the villain commit real atrocities. It's the same reason why Accelerator really did kill 10k sisters. Otherwise, it just feels cheap because then there's really nothing to be redeemed from.

>>124429861
She could have easily have forced him to do what she wanted but she left it up to him the entire time

>>124429861
Because there was a shred of goodness in her. It was also part of the speech those world leaders made. Would they stomp that bud out or will they let it grow?

>“Will we watch over the goodness budding within the evil that is Othinus? Or will we crush that bud of goodness along with the evil?

Touma believes she's a good person because she can be reasoned with and sacrificed her own dream and life for him even if it meant becoming the enemy of the world. He can't think the same about other magic gods yet.

>Othinus was a good person. She still had some kindness in her that let us settle things after talking it out, but what if he doesn’t? What if he really is nothing but a mass of power? What do I do against a Magic God?

>>124440299
>Not as good as official stuff

Wrong.
js06 is way better than Yen Press, for example.

>>124430789
If we ever get a fukiyose or seria volume it's going to have both of them together and misaki too

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Reminder that Index will win the Toumabowl and there's nothing you can do about it.

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>>124444040
Unless Kamachi gets a stroke it will either end with Touma ending up alone and forgotten/dead, or it will be an open harem ending

If he gets a stroke and someone else gets their fingers on it it will get either a Index or Mikoto ending

>>124444040
Nah, he'll end up alone as an unrecognized hero.

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>>124444504
Like this?

Boota is Othinus.

>>124437678
Thor is ugly.

>>124440443
Missed him so much and then came nt7.

I want more, his scenes are much to rare.

>>124444040
Why does anime touma look so much better than the novel illustrations?

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I wish Biribiri would shock Touma more. He deserves to be punished for being a womanizer.

How would you teach Misaki not to be a brainwashing bitch?

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>>124445171
I think he looks totally fine in the later volumes, but god forbid his early design.

>>124445272
For someone with mind-control powers, she's pretty mild.

She even gives up on her power-booster brain to save Mikoto and the sisters.

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>>124445272

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Best boy.

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>>124445377
In reality, Mikoto would never do that.

Hell, Misaki more than once has warranted at least a shock like those Kuroko or Touma receive on a daily basis, but for some reason Mikoto won't lay a finger on her.

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>>124445499
It's because unlike Kuroko, Misaki is worthy of being her sidekick and best friend.

Reminder that itsuwa can defeat saints.

>>124445540
Misaki is not a very good friend. She'll brainwash and mind control her companions for the pettiest reasons.

>>124445616
Why does she dress more immodestly than your average Argentinian streetwalker?

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>>124445619
That's why she and Mikoto make a good pair. Misaki can't mind control her.

>>124445616
Touma a faggot for not fuking her in the car.

>>124445681
It's exactly because of that they can never be friends. Misaki is too bitchy and far too paranoid to make friends with someone she can't brainwash.

>>124445763
She trusts Mikoto enough to reveal her secrets to her. She deep down knows the kind of person Mikoto is even if she can't read her mind. They're just tsun at each other.

Does the new railgun volume that came out the other day have the dragons init?

Railgun spoilers where?

>>124445272
Misaki needs Touma

He was fixing her slowly before his memory got fucked up

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Can't wait to see Birdway animated. Someday ;_;

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>>124446067
She even grew her boobs out for him. Such a dedicated girl.

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>>124446110
At least we saw best girl animated, even if just for a couple of seconds.

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>>124446414
She´s probably the one that needs the Touman the most right after pic related

Misaki has severe trust issues and would live a lonely and sad life until she dies or gets killed

>>124446776
>Misaki has severe trust issues and would live a lonely and sad life until she dies or gets killed

I think she plans on living a life vicariously by mind controlling some girl and making that girl end up with Touma.

>>124447188
Still not even half as heartbreaking as Touma's deaths.

>>124447182
>I think she plans on living a life vicariously by mind controlling some girl and making that girl end up with Touma

I really don´t think so, she´s not that pathetic

The pathetic cuck quota in official mangas was filled by Sakura already this month

>>124447188
Index III can't come soon enough. All the rage from anime-only Frendafags will be glorious.

>>124447188
so they finally got to that arc in the railgun manga?
also index manga TL when?

>>124447375
More than the Frenda reaction, I'm looking forward to the reactions of those people who still believe that MisaKuro is anything other than a bad joke.

>>124447646
Well, there is nothing much against that other than Mikoto in volume 16, which didn't amount to anything other than her realizing her feelings. Mikoto ditching Kuroko already happened in Railgun S.

>>124447320
>controlling a variety of girls just so she can get one girl that's within Touma's strike zone

A little more desperation and I can see it. She'll still be the one in control of the mind and who will experience it anyway. Vicarious for her takes on a whole new meaning. Nothing wrong with that aside from the poor girl that got mind controlled.

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In a better world, this would have happened.

>>124448705
I always would have liked for Saten to go for the Toumabowl instead of what actually happened, would have been more interesting

>>124447188
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcigXwC7xBs

Frenda is hate.

>>124448919
Her voice is so fucking annoying.

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>>124448919
Frenda will always be best cutest and best ITEM.

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>>124449058
>Frenda
>ever being best anything

>>124447188
>>124448919
>>124449058
She was too cute to get killed off ;_; Her imouto just doesn't have the same cuteness as replacement.

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>>124449349
Fremea is much better than Frenda, though.

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>>124449349
She's sexy as hell too.

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Othinus best girl.

>>124449860
She's not half as sexy as the other girls.

>>124449943
Someone needs to put Touma down so he can escape from that bitch

>>124447377
>being this new and ignorant

>>124450390
Impossible. They're inseparable soulmates at this point. They can't be separated from each other unless you want them to become monsters.

>>124450390
>someone puts Touma down
>suddenly the world ended

likely scenario

Why is Raildex so ded?

>>124450896
because no new volume

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>>124449943
This was the first and only time I said: other girls, are you even trying?

>>124451037
And the Railgun manga is at its most uninteresting right now.

>>124451151
dont forget that Accelerator doesn't even appear on his own manga.

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So is Touma's esper ability precognition?

>>124452105
Precognition isn't a magic or scientific ability. It's just innate combat sense built up from experience. If you've faced a firebolt thousands of times, eventually you'll instinctively know how to react to it.

>>124452105
That scene reminded me alot of endless 8
remember to do your homework kids

>>124452105
too bad you didn't predict your suffering.

>>124448951
Still not as bad as Kuroko.

>>124452190
>Precognition isn't a magic or scientific ability.
That's exactly what it is. It is to perceive something before it actually happens. You don't fuck over causality just from experience.

>>124453552
>All of the water daggers struck the asphalt and sent orange sparks flying throughout the entire area. Only the area one meter around Kamijou had avoided damage.

>Precognition.

>After so many battles with both scientific espers and occult magicians that they were commonplace for him, Kamijou had obtained that sense that resembled the instinct of an artisan. When he tried to understand it himself, it only threw off its accuracy.

He's not looking forward in time. He's relying on his gut feeling. Any person experienced in something will gain that sense. Besides, even if he had a magic or scientific ability, do you think that Imagine Breaker will let him use it?

why is everyone in the crossover are so fucking retarded that Touma looks smart compared to the others.

>>124430275
Does this mean we get Othinus in manga form?

>>124454130
The crossover's completely meta.

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ARRRGGGHHH KANZAKI HELP ME, IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN

The Crossover is fully translated
also

>He did not want to be left alone, but like the world of a Zen dialogue, this place made him realize he could only be giving a monologue if he was alone and therefore he had to be alone.

>“Wait… Don’t tell me I can’t reach Academy City but I also can’t get back to the Norse world. Please no!! Wasn’t the one infinite hell enough suffering for one life!? And come to think of it, it was all connected to a Norse god last time too!!”

>Just as he was about to begin crying, a girl’s voice entered his head.

>“I had a feeling this would happen.”

>“Birdway?”
>“Yes, yes!! I get it!! It’s Othinus, right!? You two sound a lot alike, so it’s hard to tell without a visual!!”

>“If you’re doing that well, I suppose you’ll be fine wandering in the void for a few years.”

>“Not happening! I’d have several different kinds of breakdowns!”

>“Fine then,” said the voice in his head. “I’ve already lost my power as a Magic God, but as you mentioned, I still have the Norse symbolism. I’ll set my existence itself as the address and drag your body out.”

>“Um… What about my right hand?”

>“What? I don’t care about a hand that can be crushed by a Magic God-class attack. I can force it through with brute strength.That’s why they call us gods, you know?”


I feel bad for him

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B-BAD FORM
KICKING ME WHILE I'M DOWN

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>>124455025
>Please no!! Wasn’t the one infinite hell enough suffering for one life!?
>I’d have several different kinds of breakdowns!”

And its only the beginning of the ride.

>>124455025
>“Birdway?”
>“Yes, yes!! I get it!! It’s Othinus, right!? You two sound a lot alike, so it’s hard to tell without a visual!!”

I guess this is a clue about which VA will voice Birdway and Othinus.

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PIGYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAH KANZAKI HELP ME PLEAAAAAAAAASE

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>>124455025
>Just as he was about to begin crying

Holy shit, have mercy on him

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ALRIGHT FUCKER YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME?

>>124455025
>Please no!! Wasn’t the one infinite hell enough suffering for one life!?

Too bad its just starting

>>124455147
They will never get a VA.

>>124455025
>“Birdway?”
>“Yes, yes!! I get it!! It’s Othinus, right!? You two sound a lot alike, so it’s hard to tell without a visual!!”

Oh shit, Othinus is my favorite and Birdway is the 2nd. That's hilarious if they ever get the same VA. I know it's never gonna happen, let me dream.

>>124455025
>You two sound a lot alike, so it’s hard to tell without a visual!!”
You bet its hard! fuck you, wheres my animated version damn it

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biribiri a best

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>>124455847
How can she be the best if she's not even the best Misaka?

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>>124455847
>>124455943
>samefag
Don't be a faggot

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>>124455943
She is the best though
>>124455979
>implying
fuck off

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>>124455979

NEW RAILGUN WHEN?
NEW ZASHIKI WARASHI WHEN?
NEW HEAVY OBJECT WHEN?
NEW ACCEL MANGA WHEN?

>>124456432
Railgun spoilers should be out anytime now, but no one fucking cares about it anymore.

>>124455847
Misaka, Birdway, and Othinus are best.

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>>124456595
I can agree with this.

>>124456624
Man, I wish to be a little girl who gets to hang out and live in the same dorm as Mikoto.

>>124456595
That's some top tier taste right there.

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>>124456595
Replace Othinus with Laura and that's my top three

>>124456695
>wanting to be Kuroko

>>124456743
who?

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>>124456775
No bully

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>>124456595
Add Lessar and Umidori and you have my top 5.

>“Fine then,” said the voice in his head. “I’ve already lost my power as a Magic God, but as you mentioned, I still have the Norse symbolism. I’ll set my existence itself as the address and drag your body out.”

>“Um… What about my right hand?”

>“What? I don’t care about a hand that can be crushed by a Magic God-class attack. I can force it through with brute strength. That’s why they call us gods, you know?”

So she lost her power as a magic god but can force teleport Touma with brute strength because a Magic God-class can overcome Imagine Breaker. So is she able to do it only because the world they were in was Norse or is it a trick that she lost her power? I think it's the former but setting her existence as the address to drag Touma out makes it sound like she was still in Touma's world.

Sounds weird if she's powerless but can somehow affect another world. I'll just chalk it up to crossover logic.

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>>124456510
My interest would rise again if Drills comes back.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWZyRj9fTM

>>124456743
>Laura
Respectable taste.

>>124456910
A-Are you me? I'm the anon you replied to and that would be my top 5 as well.

>>124457192
>you will never fug all those Misakas
Why live? ;_;

>>124457192
so which volume was it that it was revealed that all the sisters are in love with the Touman?

>>124457784
Never. The massive majority of them have never met him.

>>124457784
NT13

>>124457784
after the Accelarator speech? idk maybe between vol 19-22 of the Old Testament.

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>>124457701
Though I have a hard time deciding between Umidori and Saiai for top 5.

>>124456762
>not wanting to be Kuroko

>>124457029
Why do Academy City's phone service providers hate gays so much?

>>124458020
Between two of Accelerator's kohai, Umidori does it for me. I find her attempts at "evilness" that gets turned upside down because of her interactions with Touma, Shiage, and the others very moe.

>>124458093
Because they're Japanese.

>>124458020
Touma should never met ITEM
That would be disastrous

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>>124458137
I guess so. Her gradient long hair and DFC also gets me hard as fuck.

>>124456972
>implying shes not pretending to be retarded
>especially since she isn't 15 cm in the crossover.

>>124458473
>she secretly gets back to her normal human size daily to fuck Touma nightly in the bathtub, a secret only between the two

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>>124456595
If by Misaka you mean Worst I'm game

>>124456972
I remember someone said that White Queen was implied to be above Othinus in the crossover, but I can't find sort of mention anywhere. Was that false or did I overlooked it?

>>124459137
Haven't read the epilogue yet, but White Queen wasn't directly compared to Othinus. She was however stated to not be worried about even Gungnir being confident she'd tank it

>>124456972
it sounds like at first earlier she hijacked herself into that world and scared the shit out of frigg.
after reality adjusted and kicked her ass back to raildexverse it sounds like she brute forced her way into dragging touma's retarded ass back.
so that line of her being powerless is bullshit because 1% of infinite still is infinite.

basically its the equivalent of pretending to be retarded for the sake of not blowing the world to smithereens.

>>124459902
>For the sake of living with Touma without anyone bothering her about it
fixed

>>124456972
well theres also that about her turning into a monster far crueler if the Touman die

>>124460109
>implying people would care provided she was careful about it.

>>124459902
i too would want to shrink down into pocket size to hide from my enemies, also she can like hide on Touma's scarf or pockets and be with the Touman.

>>124460247
You really think that after all the shit she did if she didn't "lose all her powers" and shrink into a fairy people would have just said "Meh, go live with Touma, whatever" As stupid as Katze is he wouldn't even have a plausible excuse for not locking her up like he said he would if she hadn't turned into a fairy. People would most definitely bug her about it, even Touma would probably say something about there not being room in his apartment

>>124460281
On the downside there's Sphinx to worry about in that size.

So does he get his memories back? I don't know enough Japanese to ever get around to reading the LN, so I don't mind being spoiled.

>>124460482
no.
other shit happens though.

>>124460520

Ah, thanks. I always thought that was the saddest thing - to help someone, but forget who you are in the process.

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>>124460482
>>124460546
Well he has a lot of memories now

>>124461086
NT9 was the best single volume in the whole franchise. WW3 is still the best arc though.