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Why is monogatari a harem?

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He literally chose best girl in the first story arc
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People need a reason to shit on it to maintain their hipster cred.
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It isnt really.
Its more like Talking: the anime
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Because he proceeds to fuck a harem's worth of women.
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>>124219823
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It's not. Only imbeciles think it is.
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Because the author wanted to simultaneously take the piss out of various harem tropes while also making the MC a self insert for the otaku who buy the books.

Also because Koyomi has trouble controlling himself around girls and Crab canonically states in the last book that she gets off on how he constantly skirts the edge of breaking down and just cheating on her but keeps restraining himself since he's so in love with her.
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>>124221332
Was Guts a self-insert for otakus in the 90s?
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>>124219513
It has all the symptoms of a haremshit anime. Who the MC "chose" is very irrelevant in this case.
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>>124219513
And then he proceeded to fuck his sister. Maybe both.
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>>124221431
Guts is the reason why NTR is so popular these days. I really don't know
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>>124219790
>teenage psychosexual analysis the anime 2: return of spooky ghosts and goblins
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>>124219513
All the supporting characters just happen to be women. Which I don't have a problem with I enjoy hanging out with women. But inevitably somebody wants somebody elses D and then you have harem-esque shit happening. Araragi is pretty much married though, and this kills the harem.
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>>124224231
Any harem stuff is basically there for laughs, it's mostly just a love triangle.
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Just finished reading Owari 2.

Shinobu mounting Kanbaru while they yell at each other. Get to it, Shaft.
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>>124224840
Is it really the most action packed arc since kizu?
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>>124224840
Wait, mounting as in piggyback ride? Or mounting as in something that will please my boner?
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>>124219513

Araragi might've chose the best girl for HIM but the true best girl got an entire series dedicated to her.
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>>124224998
Will Cranberry giving bat a piggyback ride not give you a heartboner?
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>>124225029
yes she did?
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>>124223407
>spooky ghosts
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>>124225095
Hana was one book, Neko was two, plus her episode in Bake vol2.
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>>124226206
What is this a dick measuring contest?
Cat only narrated one book just like monkey.
Also monkey > cat
QED
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>>124226289
Actually it was an excuse to bump the thread from falling off the board while I translated.

>>124224998
Owari vol2, chapter 025

>思わぬ修羅場の連続を、しかも多角的に体験し、精神的にも肉体的にもへろへろに疲弊しつつ、ビニール袋を後生大事に抱えて神社に到着した僕を待ち受けていたのは、しかし次なる、しかし更なる修羅場だった。
Whilst suffering the mental and physical exhaustion of having experienced these many and varied unexpected conflicts, plastic bag clutched with great care I arrived at the shrine, and what awaited me there was yet another, yet worse, conflict.
>「え……?」
"What...?"
>幼女がアスリートを押し倒していた。
The little girl had pushed the athlete onto the ground.
>罰当たりにも、神社の境内で。
Within the grounds of the temple, sacreligiously.
>仰向けになった神原駿河の胴体に、忍野忍が跨っていた――えええええ!?
Oshino Shinobu was straddled onto the torso of Kanbaru Suruga, who was lying face up.
>何があった!? 何が起こってる!?
What happened!? What's going on!?
>鳥居の向こうに見えるあの絡みはなんだ!?
What is this entanglement I am seeing on the other side of the shrine gates!?

(skip a bit)

>それも――言い合いを?
And--they're having a disagreement?
>言い合いというより言い争い、ほとんど口喧嘩をしているような感じだが――しかし、マウントポジションで口喧嘩って、そんなの、口論の最終段階じゃあないか。
Or rather it sounded more like an argument, or mostly like a fight. But, an argument from a mounting position? That's pretty much the last stage of words part of an argument.
>そこから先は殴り合いしかないという。
Nothing left after that but a fistfight.
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>>124226466
>Or rather it sounded more like an argument, or mostly like a fight.

Ah, so it's like when Mom and Dad are "fighting." In bed. Naked.
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>>124226466
Well?
Where's the rest of it?
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>>124226707
And then they fucked, while Araragi and Yotsugi spied on them from the bushes.
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>>124226886
Bat was being a baby bitch because she couldn't face her servant and Kanbaru was telling her to man the fuck up
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>>124227321
That sounds uncharacteristically confrontational for monkey.
Bat must have really fucked up.
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>>124227417
Serious spoilers here.

The servant in question is Bat's ex. Kanbaru knows exactly how it feels to be rejected for the new guy, and feels that he has a right to at least see her and she has the responsibility to properly reject him.
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>>124219513
Just because Araragi is committed doesn't mean other girls magically stop lusting after his D.
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>>124219513
>He literally chose best
>he
>chose
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>>124227652
>ex
I've only read the summary but damn I didn't know they actually had a thing. Araragi NTR'd that guy pretty hard.
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>>124227977
Well he chose to reject cat
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>>124228002
Samurai dude? Didn't he tell her to fuck off and die and then kill himself after she revived him. That's a pretty clear break up if you ask me.
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>>124228112
You are correct, but he didn't really "chose" crab.
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>>124228112
>>124225029
I want to marry that cat.
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>>124228002
He spent four hundred years reviving and burning to death, scattered around the world as a bunch of ashes. Eventually he collected a bit in the snake shrine (which caused its general unstableness), but when he "witnessed" Araragi and Shinobu there together doing their time slip thing, he was able to quickly form enough of a body after a couple days to go after and try to kill him.

Senjougahara said that Kanbaru's love for her, that hadn't lessened one bit even after a year of not seeing her (after she graduated middle school) was a heavy burden.

Shishirui's was the same, except over four hundred years.
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>>124228125
Apparently they were lovers
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>>124228125
That was her first, haven't read the LNs but I guess she had others. What a slut.

>>124228002
Him and Kankan need to start a club.
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>>124228125
You have to remember though, that's the story as told

by Shinobu,

to Araragi.
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>>124228244
>>124228262
Anime/manga love and affection kinda pisses me off. They always take it to a level that doesn't actually exist.

>>124228332
Guess so, but the basic details still seem true.
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Is this that show where even the lesbian wants his dick?
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>>124228504
>lesbian
Not this shit again
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>>124228535
the ride never ends
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All the girls have unique designs and backstories. Senjougahara stands out because she's bland as fuck in a series full of greatness. She belongs in a Kyoani show, not this.
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>>124227652
I'm going to guess from this particular sentence that Kanbaru is the lynchpin of the operation Gaen mentioned back when she blac- made friends with Araragi and asked for a favour to get Kanbaru?

I'm going to guess Kanbaru ends up exorcising Shodai Kaiigoroshi by either through talking and empathy or by her sick basketball skills which we know can exorcise someone.
Shodai gotta step up his game or he's going to get slammed.
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>>124219513
But he didn't choose monkey in the first arc.
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>>124228653
>Kanbaru ends up exorcising Shodai Kaiigoroshi
Nope. Her role was precisely to argue with Shinobu, who was afraid to see him; to tell her that she needs to man up. Gaen chose her precisely because she has the experience of being an ex and could argue for his position. I'd say that argument was the climax of the book, really.

The deathmatch between Shishirui and Araragi afterwards was just like a bonus.
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>>124228827
That was crab's fuckup, not Rararagi's
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>>124228295
>That was her first, haven't read the LNs but I guess she had others. What a slut.
She only made two servants. Araragi and the samurai dude
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>>124228910
Why is Kisshot such a weeaboo?
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>>124228535
I only know what wiki tells me, hence the curiousity.
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>>124228981
She wants to protect this smile.
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>>124228981
First time was an accident, second time was Shishirui calling for her.
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>>124219823
He doesn't fuck them, just walks them home gently.
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>>124219513
All the girls want his dick and he keeps flirting with them.
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Does Senjougahara know that Shinobu lives in his shadow? Does she know that they are immortal life partners?
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>>124228872
Oh sweet.

Also good on Gaen for having that so well planned out.
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>>124229917
She's known that since Bake I think.
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>>124228421
Dunno man. I still have powerful feelings for my first girlfriend and its been... almost a decade. It's like you can imprint on somebody or something.
Not that I would date her again, but I still love her.
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>>124228112
I don't think you understand the severity of Araragi's predicament.
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Man Shinobu such a slut. Having sex with some Oddity Hunter. It's like she clouldn't stay a virgin for about 600 years. What is wrong with her? Didn't she have 4chan to keep her pure?

>>124229948
Gaen is a fucking genius. Why does this make me want to fuck her so badly? Is this normal? Her and Cat make me all googly.
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>>124229917
She calls her "Araragi's Treasure"
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>>124229917
Yes she knows it, that's why she's gonna enjoy Bararagi while she's still alive
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>>124228872
Ok, but does Shinobu really have to eat him? I mean, yes, its a permanent resting spot, but shit, that would just be weird considering their history.
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>>124230246
But he's dead anon.
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>>124230215
Is Araragi a parallel to Zeus?
Because by Jove if that legend doesn't make the finest of men. And Shinobu makes an excellent Hera. Well, removing all that "burn everyone my husband has slept with" stuff.
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Shinobu is ready to accept your seamen!
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>>124230246
he's dead jim, and she eats oddities
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>>124230411
You know what I think? I think Shinobu just wants to be Vampire Fucked. I mean, fucked by a fucking vampire. No, she wants to make love with a vampire. Someone just like her. But nooo, she chooses men who just can't stand being vampires.
It's like every guy you date turns out to gay or something. Poor girl. No wonder she acts like she has a stick up her ass sometimes.
Does anybody care? No. Booboo is just there for the pats and the donuts. They don't consider the deep needs of the ex-most-powerful-being on the planet. They just don't care.
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>>124230139
No man, you're not alone in this. I too think Gaen is attractive.
Being a fucking genius is a good thing.
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>>124230532
Right? Glad I'm not alone on this.
I would love it if those loose, baggy pants got snagged on something.
Nice cow by the way.
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>>124228872
wait did kanbaru really had a relationship with crab?
I thought the reason Kanbaru was there was becauseshe felt the same as the first servant loving someone who didn't love you back, or was i wrong ?
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>>124230651
Nice maid.

It's a shame there are so few Gaen pictures.

I wonder if the lack of Gaen artwork is directly related to her lack of fandom or if there is an untapped resource of Gaen pictures by a hardcore Gaenfag somewhere in Japan and we just haven't found it.
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>>124230703
You're right. The other anon phrased it wrong.
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>>124219513
>Best girl

No it goes:

Monkey > Snail > Bat = Crab > Phoenix > Bee > Cat > Doll > Snake
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>>124230769
Thanks. It is a shame.
If there is a legendary golden city of Gaen artwork, we must find it.
I just started drawfagging (I haven't drawn like this in years, it feels so good) and if someone requests Gaen I'm doing that shit. I might just draw Gaen for funzies.
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>>124230801
Cat and Doll are too low. It goes:
Monkey = Snail = Bat = Crab = Phoenix = Bee = Cat = Doll > Snake
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>>124230941
Do it all for funzies, man. No point doing it if you're not enjoying it.
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>>124231045
Yeah, sounds like fun. I'll sleep on it for sure.
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>>124219513
That because it is.
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>>124219513
How does anyone seriously like Crab?
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>>124219513
If you honestly think he's faithful to her you're kinda stupid
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>>124231157
Her banter is pretty fantastic/the way she bullies Arararararagi.
Same shit with why Snail is so great.
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>>124231157
Crazy: +1
Smart: +2
Horny Pervert: +2
Dere-dere: +3
Good at walking home: +2
Is OK with you kissing and rubbing lolis: +3
Takes your relationship very seriously: +2
Faithful: +2
Is willing to put up with you being a social retard: +2
Likes the fact that other girls want your dick: +1
Friends with all your friends: +2
Cool with you having a vampire loli in your shadow that shares your immortality: +2
Purple Pubic Hair: +1

The list goes on and on anon.
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>>124231226
+5

it's a pity that she can't see Snail. (that may all change one day)
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>>124228262
Quit posting your fanfiction, you stupid fucking faggot.

They were never lovers.

Samurai watched the bullshit Bat and Araragi went through during the parallel time slipping.

He wanted a second chance for a chance that never actually happened.
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>>124231442
I doubt it considering Snail went to the great city in the sky, rip in peace my nigga.
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>>124230139
Are you the samefag spreading your fake spoilers in this thread?
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>>124231405
Like that wordplay I threw in there at the end in honor of Hitagi?
Gets wet from wordplay: +1
Saves your life multiple times: +4

though, I can imagine Crab using wordplay in her dirty talk. Personally I think that would make me laugh.

>>124231480
man don't remind me. I want to dream anon! WHY????
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>>124231157
She's secretly as goofy as Araragi is.
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>>124231520
IT'S FUCKING IMPLIED.
Goddamn. No, Nisio is going to write up a saucy scene for autists who don't understand normal human relationships.
Please tell me your the same retard who came up with this Walk me home gently shit.
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>>124231538
and as perverted. with girls.
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>>124219513
>make harem anime with a bunch of fanservice
>???
>profit!
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>>124228295
>>124228332
>>124230005
Samurai doesn't count as Bat's ex.

Basically, Samurai gets jealous of Araragi and Bat's relationship and seeing that, he wonders if he could have a relationship like that with Bat if he were to get a second chance.

He wanted a re-do where instead of committing suicide due to being a monster, he accepts being a monster.
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>>124231588
Yeah, thanks for revealing that you're a fake spoilerfag.

It's easy to tell fake spoilerfags for monogatari.
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>>124231627
Seems like she shares tastes with Ararararagi and/or loves to tease people.
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>>124231638
Being in a servant/master relationship is pretty much sexual for vampires. something like kissing on the other hand means nothing to them.

>>124231679
you're a raging retard. go kill yourself.
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>>124223407
bakemonogatari 2: electric boogaloo
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They have yet to make the Senjougahara Desk Pad. I am dissapointed.
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>>124231704
>Being in a servant/master relationship is pretty much sexual for vampires.

Yep, I can already tell you are an animeonlyfag.

Those are Hanekawa's statements after she just read some books from the library.

But unlike you , I actually read the novels and the half vampire that came to town explained a lot a shit about vampire society that was cut out from the anime and the main thing is that Kissshot doesn't follow the rules or customs of vampire society and is an existence alien to what you think about vampires.

So yeah, thanks for showing how much of a retard you are, fake spoilerfag.
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>>124231704
Have you drink your medicine?
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>>124231879
You speak the English?

>>124231848
You mean Episode? Well excellent. Do tell us what you know. I read what I can of the LNs. This whole kissing thing not being sexual is ONLY in the LNs. You would probably know that if you had half a brain in that shit head of yours.
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>>124231847
FUND IT.
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>>124231704
>servant/master relationship is pretty much sexual for vampires
yes that's what cat said " akin " not necessarily the same thing, bat turned first servant into a vampire because she was alone, felt lonely made then turned him into a vamp.

Then first got butthurt because he hated being a vamp. So i doubt they did anything sexual while he was a vamp, he hated her for turning him into one. Then like the other anon said he wanted to re-do the whole thing again.
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>>124231943
Well you need to see your post here to see an example of broken english.
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>>124231955
Man I love how the world has changed.
Anything is possible.
Maybe I will.

>>124232154
I, I can't even properly respond to this. But thanks for making smile anon.
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>>124221332
>he's so in love with her

I take it you haven't watched/read monogatari
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>>124232405
I mean, he calls araragi a self insert for otakus, it goes to show really
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>>124232405
>wants to move in with her and marry her one day.
>turns down hordes of women dying for his dick including his Sex Goddess
Well, I think he might have somewhat of a point.

>>124232503
So he's saying Otakus need a hardcore girl like Crab in their lives? I don't have a problem with this really.
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>>124232279
> You mean Episode?
> I read what I can of the LNs
>You would probably know that if you had half a brain in that shit head of yours.

It seemed broken enough for me.
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>>124232545
I don't think he's turned down anyone, except for the obvious cat of course, more like he always has them as their choice or something along those lines
but he does love her, that much is true so he doesn't cheat
it also says something similar in the later novels
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>>124232704
I really really really want this post is purposely ironic.
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>>124219513
Because the term harem is applied when three or more love interests are romantically attracted to a single other party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_%28genre%29
>subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests.
It has nothing to do with if said party fucks multiple love interest, or is attracted to multiple love interest. As long as three or more people are attached to someone, it's a harem.

>>124221201
And then you have people like this. Who are not only ignorant, but also arrogant.

That being said, *monogatari is bad regardless.
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>>124233072
Firstly the word 'of' cannot be used like that, this is basic. The other was just obvious.
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>>124233687
>the word 'of' cannot be used like that
You mean in this sentence?
> I read what I can of the LNs
Since when?
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>>124234024
of=/= from
Since forever.. It was basic.
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>>124234207
> ..
'.'
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