What the fuck did I just read?

More importantly, where can you buy a new copy of this without paying 20 bucks.

>>124212170
Shell out them shekels man, because I don't think you can get it under 20.

>>124212170
Japan is rereleasing volumes with new covers, gotta pray Viz or someother picks it up for English. Or it's >>124212221

>>124212516
Which gives you the chance to win a replica model of the pew pew gun if you buy all the volumes.

>>124212688
The gravitational beam emitter is far, far from just pew pew...

Is there at least a suitable place to download it other than Batoto?

>>124213090
Just a second...

>>124213090
This is where I got it from.

http://bakabt.me/175622-blame.html

>>124213328
>spoonfeeding
Fuck off, faggot.

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>>124213406
Whatever, sorry.

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>>124211886
>read

Blame! has text?

New scanlation when?

>>124211886
One of the best manga of all time?

>>124211886
Can someone explain the actual plot of Blame to me?

>>124215139
MC has to find a living human with special genes that will allow them to access the megastructures wifi, which is basically like a giant simulation of earth pre-robotification. The robots that were meant to protect those with the special genes malfunctioned and are now killing everyone without the special genes. MC walks for a long time to find someone with special genes. He maybe finds them?

Volume 5's really confusing me, and I bet it'll only get worse from here on

>>124214583
even picture books are read right

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>>124215139
Killy is a safeguard created by the authority to hunt down the net terminal gene which can be used to safely access the net to shut down the rapid expansion of the mega structure caused by the haywire builders that started the expansion in the first place. We want them to stop so the few non silicon races can survive and life in the structure can be normal for once.

>>124215311
It's also to stop machines from building this shit endlessly
Megastrucure so big whole sectors collapse regularly

>>124215311
Somehow having access to the internet represents a threat to the silicon life forms because it gives you the power to eliminate them, hence why they are on a rampage killing those with said genes

>>124215311
>>124215386
>>124215473
>>124215512

all wrong

>>124215562
Dont make me come over your bedroom and punch you anon

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>>124215562
want me to fuckin fart right in your nose mother fucker cus i will

>>124215562
substantiate you are claim

>>124215617
>>124215704

>so defensive to the point of violent and disgusting behavior

so wrong

>>124215778
my dad works for Nihei so i know all about Blame! faggot

>>124215704
I want to iku Iku and Cibo.

Can someone explain the megastructure? Is it on earth? How big is it? Are these things even known? I'd like to know how all this shit got started, but the manga just throws you right into it, long after shit has hit the fan.

>>124216109
Maybe if you read the manga you'd have an idea.

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It was near perfect.
I just think it ended one chapter to late.
It would've been better if it had an open ending.

>>124216109
>How big is it?
There was one room that was larger than Jupiter. And that's just one room.

>>124216171
>There was one room that was larger than Jupiter.
Wait... what? So this thing pretty much encompasses the solar system? Is it like a dyson sphere surrounding the sun?

>>124216135
I literally just finished it. Maybe I should read it again, since I clearly missed some things.

>>124216109
>I'd like to know how all this shit got started
Read NOiSE.

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>>124216109
Engulfs the entire solar system in a large sphere, just a bit past pluto

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>>124216289
>Is it like a dyson sphere surrounding the sun?
We're pretty sure all the planets were used at building materials before they started using some kind of dark matter.

>>124215013
Easily

>>124213406
>not exchanging information

No wonder this place has turned to shit. It's not like /a/ isn't already overrun with Tumblr and Plebbit.

>>124216289
It doesn't take place on Earth, or does it. It doesn't matter where it "takes place".

>>124216423
This is the main reason why I love Blame!

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Didn't it start with an internet space used for business transactions who fell to cyber-terrorism which caused the safeguard, builders to go batshit and also birthed the silly cones ?
I don't remember so well.

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>>124216289

According to Wikipedia
>it has been suggested by Tsutomu Nihei himself in his artbook Blame! and So On that the scale of The City is beyond that of a Dyson sphere, reaching at least Jupiter's planetary orbit (for a radius of around 5.2 AU, or 778,547,200 km)

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>>124216423
>>124216495
>That pic

That shit is mindbogglingly fucking gigantic.

>>124216511
Earth is a desolated place on the Blame! universe, and no, it does not

>>124216651
There are also those Gravity generator things like at Toha Heavy Industries where they were warping space-time to have multiple overlapping realities. So as big as it is, it's even bigger on the inside.

>>124216423
>>124216495
>No other sizes of this image found

Then how am I supposed to fap?

>>124216777
iirc the space-time warping was because the gravity furnace was malfunctioning.

>>124216860
I thought it was working fine, they just used the GBE to disrupt it causing them to momentarily phase back into the base reality, allowing them to escape. When it turned back on, reality began warping again. Cibo 2 got caught in it. iirc

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Fav panel/page?

>>124216576
the one-volume manga NOISE goes into it a little bit, but even that doesn't answer the big questions.

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>>124216576
>silly cones

>>124217061
She was a cutie.

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>>124216576
>Netsphere set up as digital backup space/super-internet
>NWO illuminatty use it to track everything everyone does
>forces everyone to get the implants
>creates safeguard to kill anyone who doesn't get the implants
>silicon life are terrorists opposed to NWO
>terrorists steal safeguard blueprints and create what becomes silicon lifeforms
>also sparks the chaos that starts the unchecked expansion of the City

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>>124217086
The best.

We know Biomega and Blame exist as in-universe series in Sidonia, but what about Abara?
I still miss Nayuta and Denji. ;_;

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>>124217234
>That cibo
This cibo

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>>124217358
This Cibo.

>>124217349
>Sidnonia has gauna
>Abara has gauna

yeah probs exist in the same universe

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>>124217414
THIS cibo

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>>124216996
>>124216996
The sequence of the exterminator, first class about to eat Cibo's baby then Killy shooting it in the head and the resulting explosion.

So fucking cool and well timed. You can just imagine what's happening between the panels so fucking well. It's naturally cinematic.

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>>124216996

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>>124217525
Look at the fucking reflection in her eyes. what a fucking cool idea.

>>124216495
Wait where does it mention they used some kind of dark matter for production of the megastructure?

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>>124217564
that calm then explosion. masterful.

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>>124217619
the trail on that bottom panel

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>>124217656
yes

>>124217538
The one right after this one, where he is shooting it

>>124217580
It's implied, though something about it might've been mentioned in one of the side stories.

Basically, there's no where near enough matter to build something that fucking huge with just the matter in the solar system.

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>>124216996
Seu was the fucking shit.

>>124217358
alternate universe Cibo a best.

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>>124217711

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>>124216996
I still remember this chick suddenly showing up like a boss.

>>124217809
perfection

>>124211886
>kana says "blam"

Really?

>>124217778
This was one of THE coolest spreads in Blame.

Hopefully Kunato can fully redeem himself and be even a bit as based as Seu.

>>124217708
You can definitely see an improvement of his artwork if you compare volume 1 to volume 10.

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>>124217890
Wow.

>read

It's an artbook

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NoiSe sets up the setting of Blame! some of this is my interpretation based on blame!, the notes Nihei put in the artbook and NSE/noise

So Net Terminal implants/gnes were expensive because the net sphere was a place of business, where the rich communicate and do their dealings. eventually with so many rich all focused in 1 place, criminal activity within the net sphere arose, this led to the safeguard being introduced. so conflict basically began happening in the net sphere rather than the real world, causing chaos. Silicons were born from hacking into the net sphere and applying safeguard qualities to human bodies(this is in noise). silicons dislike normal humans and live in the physical world. im guessing in order to protect the humans in reality the governing agency/safeguard began materializing in the physical world as well. which led to humans being sent into the net sphere for protection(that place with all those sleeping humans/giant thing). in order to store human conciousness in the software of the net sphere, a shitload of hardware was needed. so the builders were programmed to expand the hardware constantly. and over millions or longer years all this just became chaotic and without purpose. Cibo/sanakan/seu's child that Killy allows to grow shuts down the net sphere, allowed humans to return to the physical world and exterminate the silicon life(humans actively hunt silicons in Blame!2)

>>124211886
hundred of pages printed with an emo stickman walking and wiggly pictures of stairs, I guess

I wish this would get animated.
It'll probably feel a bit like Texhnolyze.

>>124216969
it was malfunctioning, the GBE was used to reset the gravity furnace, thereby stabalizing space-time around it.

>>124215562
>Implying there's actually a plot

>>124217970
Oh damn, that's the Executioner.
Got Cibo's cover?

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>>124218010
Sidonia's getting some animated Blame! love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj_fop8eYHA

>>124217970
>Blame!2

source ?

>>124218138
Its a oneshot

http://www.mangadata.com/manga/blame_2/

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So what's the deal with Toha Heavy Industries showing up in most of Nihei's work? Is it just a plot device he likes to reuse? Are his works connected?

>>124217846
hence the name, was supposed to be Blam! like a gun going off, but they kept Blame! cause it sounded cooler

>>124211886
Did you like it OP/anyone else? Been looking for a new manga to read and this seems really cool

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>>124216996

>>124218192
It's just a common element, like Gauna, GBE, and megastructure.

>>124218211
No, it was because Nihei didn't even have the faintest idea of English at the time and then it stuck, so why not? Like how Fate/Stay Night was meant as Fate's Day/Night.

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>>124218192
I guess Toha is the General Electric of the Niheiverse

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>>124218261

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>>124218314

>>124218192
It's actually just cyberpunk stuff. It's one of the last megacorps in existence and it tries to keep itself alive in Sidonia via media where it makes itself look good (see: the THI arc of Blame and the entirety of Biomega where they're the valiant heroes).

>>124218298
>it was because Nihei didn't even have the faintest idea of English at the time
The dude studied architecture in New York before becoming a mangaka, don't spout nonsense.

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>>124218360

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>>124217778
Comedy gold.

>>124218369
>New York
And?

>>124217970
Someone get me a belt count. He's approaching haseo levels.

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>>124216996
the best

Poor man's sidonia no kishi

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>>124218360

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>>124217834
Greatest love story ever told.

>>124218257
Easily among my top 3

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>>124218402
just perfect

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Can he even be killed?

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>>124218476
Aye

>>124218535
I thought he pretty much was dead at that point, and the governors let the passage fill with water so they can wash him and the orb outside the megastructure.

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How much time passed during entire thing again?

>>124218535
He had 65% of his body (or was it like 65% remaining? Can't remember) obliterated by a blast stronger than the Sun and the most he had to do was endure Shinbo shenanigans while he regenerated.

>>124218535
>FUCK YOU
>NO FUCK YOU

>>124213406
Complaining about spoonfeeding is for anime, not manga.

Plebs don't read manga, and if there is someone that wants to get into manga I want to help them so they stop being a pleb.

>>124218622
I think he took a few years just to cross the jupiter room

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>>124218622
At that scale it just becomes impossible to grasp it's size. It feels so fucking weird to even try.

>>124218622
An anon in a thread like a year or more ago did some math. If he started at around Earth and went to around Jupiter at walking speed, plus some other stuff, it would take him roughly 90,000 years. So at least more than that (maybe close to a million years have passed since the City started expanding)

>>124218622
5.2 AU, or 778,547,200 km

That's 17775 year at a pace of 5km/h, without breaks.

But it's impossible to say how far he actually had to walk. since he took that elevator and was teleported by Toha industries.

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>>124218635

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>>124218758
Took him a few centuries to get out of a fucking elevator, doubt the jupiter room was any quicker.

>>124218879
He's tough.

Hey guys, how does the GBE work? Does it create a linear black hole that pulls and crushes in everything along the firing arc before disapating or does it shunt everything out of it's path with so much force it disintegrates instantly?

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>>124218869
>>124218848
>>124218797
>>124218622
Enjoy.

http://htwins.net/scale2/

>>124218257
One of the best I've ever read. Not that much dialog. Very little exposition(If you've read through the thread you know pretty much all of it), but it absolutely oozes cool.

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>>124219356
>http://htwins.net/scale2/
what?

>>124219275
from the ntoes in the artbook Blame! and So On

[Gravitational Beam Emitter - Hypothesis 1]
Gravity, even when emitted as a beam, does not have that much power.
So where does the immense power of the Gravitational Beam Emitter come from?
Perhaps, like the Gravity Furnace, it comes from Dark Matter intervening.
That is, if the beam hits one certain place, it transforms into an entirely different location where an extreme amount of dark matter suddenly occurs. The thing's mass increases explosively, a reaction that would cause anything to be destroyed.
Since it changes the attributes of the place where it hits, it could be called, "Installation Emitter" maybe.

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>>124219463

>>124219275
s-sure

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>>124216996
My favorite pages were the ones that showed just how big the megastructure was or how far Killy walks.

This isn't necessarily my favorite page but ones similar.

>>124219525
[Gravitational Beam Emitter - Explanation 2/Type One Variable Critical Arms]
Iko called it the "Gravitational Beam Generator" but it's actual name is this one ((referring to "Type One Variable Critical Arms")). The people on the Forbidden Level of the Life Electric Company also called it "Gravitational whatever" as a name that describes its functions directly.
But in the end, "Type One Variable Critical Arms" is the true name of Killy's weapon whereas "Gravitational Beam Emitter" is just a description.
So what does it mean by a "Weapon" that is "Critical" and "Variable"?
The only ones to use (possess) this weapon are Killy and Sanakan, and Sanakan only utilized the "Great King ((Not sure about this word here))" so that's the situation.
As for the reason, it takes place on the various stages of the story of BLAME!, "The maintained Lower Level where Killy was wandering," "The Electric Life Company's general Forbidden Level," "Toho Heavy Industries, where the Governing Agency's influence does not extend," "The Informal Layer," and the "layer damaged by Level 9." BLAME! is mostly full of places where the Governing Agency, Safeguards, and the like are unable to function, I would say. And so if you consider those circumstances to be true, they would have come across no other weapons.
But, I wouldn't say the Safeguards are under inefficient command.
Since in Sanakan's final flawless form in the scene at the Silicon Life headquarters, the gun she was using was a pressure release gun. And also for Sanakan to attack she had a downloaded a high level exterminator which one can think of as not being able to be taken down by fire power or strength. The same is so with Killy's gun, and it must be the most powerful weapon in that world.

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>>124219654
So why was the unsteady Killy able to carry such a thing?
Well as you should know, it's because he's this really extraordinarily special person.
As expected, is it because he's the "Secret System Messenger"....?
This brings us back to the previously stated problem.
What does it mean by a "Weapon" that becomes "Critically" "Variable"?
In the whole of this world, the Builders have created a layered world that is, in actuality, a level that is the same size as the Solar System. And inside of that entity is one atmospheric pressure of breathable air circulating about the whole thing as well as regularized gravity.
That kind of environment is impossible to create naturally, however there is some way or another to control that kind of thing artificially.
Naturally, the largest restructuring was taking control of the gravitational power, and undoubtedly, within the Megastructure there are controls.
If control over the gravitational power was lost, the only possibility is that the layers themselves would instantly collapse.
With that in mind, is there even a "Variable Critical Arms"?
Concerning controlling gravity, Killy's gun "emits" "beams" of "gravitons." It is the ultimate "arms" who's "critical" point is creating a situation where all "variables" have failed.
Blam! It cuts down places developed with artificial gravity with its straight beam and causes localized gravitational failure.
Since using such a thing haphazardly would be rather dangerous for the world if used carelessly, its owner is controlled carefully.
Sanakan is of a uniquely high rank which comes along with responsibility of such a weapon.
So on the other side, afterwards, from the Governing Agency...... the Level 9 Investigation was maybe also given such responsibility..... hm?

end. obligatory image for every blame! thread

>>124216379
Never knew of it. Thanks.

This is exactly why the 'spoonfeeding' maymay is cancer.

Again, thanks.

>>124219402
Just read through the first half of Ch1 and the designs/backgrounds are fantastic. Finding it pretty hard to follow the action though, but I'm relatively new to manga so it's probably just me.

>>124217834

best gap

>>124219772
first scans are red LEFT to RIGHT not RIGHT to LEFT
i was confused as well

>>124219855
Yeah that shit really got me as well.

>>124219757

whiny stupid fags like you are cancer

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>>124219695
>Concerning controlling gravity, Killy's gun "emits" "beams" of "gravitons." It is the ultimate "arms" who's "critical" point is creating a situation where all "variables" have failed.
>Blam! It cuts down places developed with artificial gravity with its straight beam and causes localized gravitational failure.
How does Sidonia GBE work?

What is the definition of human in the Niheiverse? How could Cibo be still human?

>>124219923
Thanks Cleverbot.

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>>124216996
Not the best looking page, but the shock of realizing after several years of reading and re-reading that Killy sheds a tear for Cibo left a damn memorable impression.

>>124219855
Oh, well that makes more sense. Thanks.

>>124219031
I wanna make a "he's a big guy" comment but Killy is a massive manlet

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>>124219772
>the first half of Ch1
Oh boy nigga...

>>124219940
Hyggs released from LEM/Powered by LEM?

>>124220043
compared to who? Cibo is like 10 ft tall.

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Killy is so moe

>>124220240
Killy is silly

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>>124220043

>all these retarded newfag barely reading Blame

Even more reasons to hate shitdonia.

>>124219695
>First panel isn't "I'm looking for net genes" with every subsequent panel being "..."

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>>124216996
He just wanted to look up porn on the internet.

>>124220381
>he
Davinel is a gril.

>>124215386

this.

>>124220340
Goddamn you're so cool dude.

>>124220340
Good thing Biomega jumped the shark way too hard and fast to get an anime or these "casuals" would be the ones calling you new :^)

>>124220340
instead of being happy that Blame! is actually being discussed you bitch about it like a little girl

>>>/v/

>>124217580

there are lots of references to gravity technology.
this suggests higgs and mass control.

>>124217886
>that chapter end

he was too late
;_;

>>124220410
Blame really had some great cyberpunk ass names.

>Schiff
>Pcell
>Cibo
>Davinel Lu Linvega
>Dhomochevsky

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>implying a giant killer cyborg is afraid of da popo

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>What can be assumed to be pretty well into the future.
>There's a fucking payphone

Fucking Japan

>>124220708
It was written just as cellphones were becoming a "thing".

>>124220708
i noticed that too but i can't blame him, hell even in Gits there is still CDs and shit being used despite people having cyberbodies and brains.
they couldn't predict the rise of cellphones just like we can't imagine future communications

>>124220576
Don't try so hard.

It's embarrassing.

>>124220839
>>124220817
Or that having cellular service in the City would require a massive network. Payphones would just need lines which could be automated aswell.

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>>124220500
>>124220552
>>124220576
>>124220853

>>124220975
NOiSE took place on Earth before the City was the City.

>>124218476
I never understood why people said there was romance here. I never understood it.

>>124221136
Did you even read it? There was obviously something. Why would he hesitate to kill her?

>>124218301
Man, Sanakan doesn't look good in that new style of his.

being Sanakan is suffering.

>>124221182
I noticed that, but I didn't automatically assume it was romance? It was very hard to tell what relations characters have.

>>124221183
I don't think he can even do the old style anymore. The redrawn versions of NSE and Blame2 looked off compared to the originals as well.

>>124221183
The Blame characters look like final fantasy rejects. nihei should stick to drawing moe shit like tsumugi and izana. he doesn't have it anymore.

>>124221249
he liked her, but i think the point was about killy that he lived for so long and had so many encounters that he probably met like a hundred people like cibo before, people he cared for but forgot about after time, he even forgot that he was a special safeguard.
Maybe he had some really big brain damage and lost all his memory from before.

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>>124215386

Killy is an agent of a pre-safeguard system, not a safeguard. This is mentioned at least once.

Also the rapid expansion isn't really the problem, it's the fact that safeguard are murdering everything that breathes and silicon creatures are trying to hijack the netsphere to bend it to their will.

>>124221434
He also lost any ability to produce good looking color pages. Those look off as hell.

>>124221465
Killy is a proto-safeguard, hes a highly cyberized human being, who worked as a policeman

>>124221459
He should go back to drawing by hand.

>>124221249
It just seems like the most obvious conclusion.
>only woman he's ever interacted with
>spend 400 years fighting
>dhomo doesnt have a problem with killing any other silly cones

>>124221585
Nihei said that first Blame! one-shot wasn't canon.

>>124220707
>Fuck man, it's the cops!
>...What's a cop?
>Uh... hm.

>>124221585
BLAME =/= BLAME!

>>124221590
Not even Miura got this bad, and he is a idolfag.

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>>124217886
I always thought this little scene was fucking adorable for some reason.

>>124221986
>Kasha
How cute, he's offering her some buckwheat porridge.

>>124222160
Are you slav?

>>124221675
>>124221808
its in the notes of the artbook, hes mostlikely a cop
[Killy? #1]
He's human but has had high level cybernetic enhancements.
He's pretty nearly ageless and immortal.
Given that, there's a high probability that he has been living for over 1000 years.
He probably doesn't have any recollection of much of his life.
Ages ago, when the Netsphere was completely functional, he might have had some kind of police officer job.
Then there was the change from the human race to Silicon Life.
Humans cast off their living bodies.
Criminals got in the way of the network because they had been antagonized so much by people who used different bodies, that they came to hold a terrible grudge.

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>>124216996
nihei's expressions in BLAME! are usually pretty derp but i think he did pretty good with sanakan's expression of indifference towards things she's about to GBE the shit out of

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Is there a translated version of Blame! and so on...?

>>124218535
>yfw that bald fucker is Killy's twin

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>>124223373
>Doing the term "wall of text" this much justice
For fuck sake Nihei, you don't need to build a god damn wall that isn't part of a structure

Is this the greatest cyberpunk manga work there is? I think so.

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>>124221459
Nihei should do a fantasy series. It'd be interesting to see what he could pull off.

>>124223373
http://www.randomisgod.com/blame/btranslation.html

>>124224408
Oh shit nigger, fuck yeah.

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Killy covered in useless but cool scrap metal parts and random electronic appliances > Killy strapped up in the belt-tastic leather straitjacket > Killy wearing a featureless black jumpsuit

>>124218609
that wasn't water apparently, it was nano machine goo the builders pump up to start work on a fresh new level.

>>124213328
>http://bakabt.me/175622-blame.html
ty anon

>>124224577
I preferred that outfit he wore when killing all those dudes in this scene >>124220096.

>>124225788
>that outfit
You mean "guns"?

>>124225816
Guns are a perfectly valid outfit.

>>124225816
he got a more advanced suit before fighting against Schiff in that chapter, it made him incredibly resistant until he got rekt by level 9 safeguard cibo.

>>124225788
>all those dudes

he was fighting Schiff, no one else.

>>124225788
That shit was pretty cool too, had a kinda futuristic Mad Max thing going.

>>124222706
And here I thought that "proto-safeguard" meant that he was like an early version of the completely artificial safeguard. I thought his single-mindedness and apparent lack of emotions was because he's a primitive AI that was only designed for a single concrete purpose. He seems so inhuman because he's not a human being. He probably doesn't even have what we would consider to be "free will" or agency.

That he's actually a human being, and would be hard to distinguish from what I just described is heartbreaking.

>>124227527
>Emotionless

Doesnt he blast fools for exporting giants or something?

>>124227527
Killy has seen some shit.

In the artbook Nihei claims that it's possible that Killy has lived for over a millennium, but remembers very little of that time span (He claims that human memories deteriorate after 50-70 years)

After such a long time I'd imagine that he surely would grow to be just a little emotionally numb inside.

>>124227616
And he grins afterwards. And he apparently mercy kills a woman who's been turned into a babby-clone factory.

>>124227772
Yeah, and that's tragic. He seems robotic and single-mindedly devoted to his goal, enduring the long trudge through the megastructure because that's the only thing that he can recall being in any way consistent throughout his life. Very sad.

>>124227772
Killy has been shown to regenerate from bodily damage, so regenerating brain cells might be possible.
It might be that after regenerating his mind so many times he stopped bothering with emotions.

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>>124216996

I always asked myself? Why did Nihei choose the name Killy?

>>124228699
If there's one thing that nigga's good at...

>>124228699
It's silly, innit

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What IS Cibo, exactly?

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>>124228699
He took the names from Great Sky River(1987) by Gregory Albert Benford. Killy, Cibo and even Sanakan appear in it.

>>124229317
[Electric Life Company]
The Governing Agency, its Safeguards, and Silicon Life all ignore the city thriving in what is called the Abandoned Level. The Electric Life Company is located there with its team of scientists.
As a matter of fact, it is the workers of that company who have control over the governing of the city.
There, Cibo was Head Scientist, but she worked against the Presiding Master of the company.
Her escape from that shut-in place was done with Killy's help. She succeeded in taking control and then decided to cooperate in Killy's quest.

>>124229317
Cont... 1/2

[Cibo's Reincarnation - 1]
Cibo died during a mistake made in the "Artificial Net Terminal Gene Experiment."
Afterwards she was revived thanks to the concern of the President.
How is it that humans can be reincarnated with the data of their personalities intact?
One hypothesis is that people who aren't in the Life Electric Company, the city people, don't consider those who are to be human any longer.
Presupposing that a sort of cloning process is used, all information in the brain is coded into data, and while the real body is a living thing, a new silicon body can be easily constructed.
Up to that point, without the use of hardware, I believe they can prepare entirely for such an operation.
In short, while doing dangerous experimentation, a replacement body is already prepared (for important people only) and kept offline unless the person is killed in an accident.
Probably the brain is scanned frequently enough and backed up at the electronic level.
However even with that, Quantum Noise comes into the picture again.
There is no way to avoid that vice and data will no doubt gradually degrade.

>>124229615
2/2

Cibo died again in the fierce fight against the Safeguard.
First, as mentioned before, since the basic "Cibo" was already in data form, I believe that something like a drug was given to her to return her to "Backup space."
Also, just before the Builder manipulated things, Killy may possibly have used a synchronizing computer language to overwrite it......
Anyway, there is only complete data.
If there is a problem, the Net must know in order to carry out its processes, so it would have that capability to find the problem, wouldn't it?
Iko, who came way later, is a different case entirely because he's an AI.
In any case, data that is left alone for a very long time will eventually be deteriorated by Quantum Noise.
In the real world, there is matter in a constant state of deterioration, contained within physical boundaries, that we call, "Living Organisms."
So if something stays in "Backup Space" for a long time, like the Governing Agency, its information slowly unravels until finally it becomes nothing but random Noise.

>>124229317
Further cont...

[Cibo's Reincarnation - 2]
In the previous fight at Toho Heavy Industries, in the moment when Cibo was killed, she was revived in the electric backup world extremely quickly. But that's not something just anyone can do.
If it were possible for everyone to have a spare electronic copy, this is not a joke about ghosts but, a everyone's consciousness would soon be laid to rest in the electronic reserves.
In short, people who's consciousness is all data would be loaded with different software and programs and one should think about how those operate.
Basically, Cibo's personality data is associated with a certain application that can load that information.
There are two explanations for how that is possible.
1. When she copies Killy's basic code, it was transferred over (like a virus?).
2. When she was linked with the Builder, it had that effect.
Also, it could have been a combination of those two.
The important thing is the existence of such an ability for people to have their personality attached to such an application.
Their so-call living body (although it can't really be called that anymore) came in the form of the governing agents and safeguards.

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>>124229508
>>124229615
>>124229652
>>124229703

T-thanks, anon-kun.

>>124218261
You can really feel the rain with this one.

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Just gonna copy/paste what I asked last thread.

Has anyone else considered the possibility that the human Killy encounters directly before finding the Jupiter room was a survivor from before the Netsphere disaster? He is the only known human besides Killy in the entire series with knowledge of how to manipulate/re-engineer Builders, lives completely isolated thousands of miles away from any other humans, without Safeguard disturbance; and creates an almost human-like "village" with his reconstructed Builders. When Killy finds him, his original body is so heavily decayed that he's resorted to that bizarre biological sustain system in order to preserve himself for even longer.
I think Killy was disturbed by the extreme measures that the man took to keep himself alive, and is why he leaves wordlessly.

>>124212170
When I was in Japan I got it at some store for 400 yen/volume.

>>124230180
Yeah but most here don't understand Nipponese hieroglyphics

>>124230076
you're going to have re post pic of the guy since I’ve forgotten who that was.
or do you mean the usb stick guy?

Blame is an excellent literary example of why post singularity existence will be very, very fucking bad news bears.

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>>124230324

>>124218298
Actually was he said about the name being based of of a "blam" sound affect makes a lot of sense because I had an incredibly difficult time finding BLAME! in Japan before someone told me it was pronounced "blam".

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>>124230324
1/5

>>124223373
dat patrician taste in scifi

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>>124230464
2/5

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>>124230505
3/5

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>>124230550
This >>124230446
then 4/5

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>>124230594
5/5

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Can Nihei cancel sidonia and restart Killy and his zombie waifu driving around in a skyline?

>>124230468
he was also inspired by terminator and of course Gits

>>124230739
Pretty much sounds like Biomega

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>>124218261
>it doesn't grow back this time

Cibo is best bro ever.

Like fucking really she fucks herself over for everyone else so many times to the point that wen she's eventually a little selfish none can blame he for it. And even then doing so gets Killy the one thing he needs.

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>>124216996
Nihei's colour pages were awesome

>>124216996
>>124218261
>>124218314
>>124218360
Damn, Nihei's BLAME! art looks more like Takahashi's Tsutomu than I remember. Oh, the master - assistant relationships.

>>124233782
>Takahashi's Tsutomu

his nationalism ranges on the extreme asshurt.

What is /a/'s favorite music to listen to while reading BLAME!? Looking at the playlist I was using, it only has Atrium Carceri's songs, which is some kind of grungy/atmospheric industrial genre.

Any good scans or do we have to wait for the reprints? Don't want to reread with the crappy ones I've had on my HDD for ages

>>124234266
>Reprints
You better hope someone is willing to debind the $20 per volume versions.

>>124234209
The OST of Endless Space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIUeE9gFGZc

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>>124216996

>>124221465
The rapid expansion is one of the many problems caused by the fact that all the people with net terminal genes are dead.

>>124211886
Blame! Assuming your pic is relevant.

>>124221459
The end of Biomega was the perfect balance for him. To bad he just keep going.

>>124221585
Noise hints that he's one of the kids the cultists kidnapped but really Killy and sanakan's pasts aren't really important. All you have to really know is that they were once human, but have been machines for so long that they no longer remember any of that.

My favorite parts in Blame! were the ones where Killy walks for hundreds of years with nothing happenening at all

>>124234359
That whole scene was so awesome. Cibo a badass.

>>124234209
https://aairria.bandcamp.com/album/metastructure-netsphere

>>124220327
>>124220240
I liked the crazy height differences between Killy, Cibo's people, and the fishers. Seperated for thousands of years, different populations of humanity started evolving differently, experiencing effects similar to island dwarfism/gigantism.

Also we have no idea which character is "normal" sized compared to us.

>>124234340

Well Habanero's already planning on doing just exactly that.

the fuck do the people in blame even eat? the closest thing to food we saw in the entire series where those silicon food bars, that are apparently made of 100% condensed grease.

that's fine for cyborgs but what about the different races of meat creatures?

>>124223373
These walls of text always make me wish I was a native speaker.

The shit in Japanese I really want to read will never have a non-sloppy translation.

>>124235180
Nigga there's a machine that can create anything from a set of user instructions.

>>124234545
Killy does understand that he's human, though. Throughout the first half of the series, he seems to think he's just an ordinary person, until he gets injected with the Safeguard thing; and in the second half, he occasionally shows displays of very, very human emotion.
Examples: His extreme rage/anger/triumph face when he gets out of his 14 years of recovery, and starts blasting his gun everywhere until his arm rips off; he cries when Cibo finally dies; he stops walking/moving for long enough on the stairs to the Jupiter room at one point that Mori thinks he's dead; his looks of despair, exhaustion and depression in the last few chapters in the rain.

>>124227934
That seems to be a common theme for Nihei's protagonists. Sacrificing your humanity to protect humanity. Nagate is heading down that path, as did Zoichi. Climbing a staircase for a thousand years, riding your bike down the end of the world, or drifting through space trying to protect the last of humanity, the hero's journey never ends. No wonder Hiroki wanted to die so badly.

The villains on the other hand, seem to want to transcend the human condition, but do it for very human reasons such as pride or sadism.

>>124235277
That's Toha exclusive technology, nobody else has that capability. It's shown in either volume 1 or 2, when Killy runs into that guy after falling down a shaft for several miles, that humans know how to grow food to some extent.

>>124229494
Interesting, and the solar system in Sidonia is named after the author of Solaris right?

>>124234352
>>124235097

Excellent stuff. I'm glad someone actually composed music for this manga.

>>124235365
Oh shit you're right.. I would imagine it's probably just like futuristic nutrient supplements with "fulfillment bars" on the side.

>>124235307
He's old enough he's probably forgotten his identity several times over. The only thing he really remembers is that he's looking for net terminal genes.

He forgot his life as a regular human, then he forgot his life as a safeguard and started to think he was human again, Then he came full circle.

The ride never ends. Immortality is fucking horrifying.

>>124235145
There's a chance that shinsoban will have some new bonus stuff, I'll try to keep you all updated. I really hope they'll cram NOiSE in it though, with it being unevenly split into 6 volumes rather than 5.

>>124235341
The part that makes Blame! even more depressing is that Killy doesn't just die, or "go home" or live in peace once the Netsphere chaos is resolved. He's completely immortal, and continues to wander The City; possibly on new orders from the Governing Agency, for thousands and thousands of years. He still has to follow orders from above as the only remaining human legal authoritative figure in the base reality.
He's there for so long that by the time Blame! 2 starts, the idea that he ever existed and was the instrumental to saving The City is only a legend. In that time, his personality has developed to the extent that he's ready and willing to help Silicon Creatures when they're in danger, and helps Pcell's distant descendant escape The City so that she can find a new place to safely restart Silicone Life.

>>124235817
It also makes Ochiai and those fucks on the Immortal council look like even bigger cunts. MAH IMMORTALITY! MAH PERFECT LIFE FORM!

Come back in a billion years and tell me it was worth it if you still remember.

i wonder who kicked killy out of safeguard mode in the first place.


it's not an organisation you seem to be able to leave on your own. you either fucking die and they get tired of reviving your ass or in killy's case, someone forcibly got rid of their links to him, as Iko noticed signs of some erasure program when they where scanning to see if he was friend or foe.

>>124236064
Whoever left him in a pool of his own blood in the first volume.

I personally think this was the start of Killy's journey. The one in the front seems to be female, Sanakan or the lady from NOISE perhaps?

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>>124236994
Shit forgot pic, anyways there must have been many people modified like Killy searching, must be tough outliving them all, hell, maybe that weird Killy clone safeguard was one as well.

>>124217414
>>124217504
Cibo means food in my language, and it's somehow offputting reading it used as a name.
I would eat a Cibo, though, if you know what I mean.

>>124237081
There's something in the artbook notes about that being symbolic and a dream, iirc.

>>124234209
During this reread I'm listening this mix in loop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5_gEZptmHw&index=19&list=WL

Last time I read it while listening to some Burial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI1Yayoeozc

>>124234209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32a_bM2zuFI

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I just noticed Killy starts drooling after he drugs himself in Vol 1.

I'm so happy I've still got the complete set in box somewhere in my spare room. Gonna have to go and dig them out now.

found the complete blame manga in some comic book store a while back, it was all in french.
I speak dutch...

>>124234209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292hXTo51W8

On loop.

I must apologize, it was a weird time for me.

Pic related.

>>124234209
I say this in almost every Blame! thread but the reread I enjoyed most was one with nujabes on.

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>>124240555
>>124240555

4chan ate the pic related. Here is what it would have been.

>>124215139
megastructure expands through the whole solar system
>muh search
>long time
das it

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>>124233696
I've had this one as a phone background for a few months now.

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>>124216996
This entire scene is the definition of perfection.
Killy, having been traveling for fucking millennia across unfathomable distances, finally reaching the end of the city, and then is the first living thing to see stars in millions of years, has such a gravity and power to it I can't even begin to describe. Best page in BLAME!, and maybe the best ending to any comic I've ever read.

>>124234209
Crystal Castles
Ratatat
Venetian Snares

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>Reread Blame
>This scene
>Finally get the reference
Bricks were shat

>>124241595
I found Ratatat to be too lively, for the sterile/industrial feel the whole Blame! universe give.

>BLAME!
>reading

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Nice thread.

>>124227772
Well, but memories deteriorate after 70 "eventful" years.
Doing nothing but walk for even centuries at a time without meeting anyone can prove to be so devoid of stuff to remember that the few eventful things are remembered for millennia without trouble.

>>124244068
I've found lack of event dulls the memory.

>>124234209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NkZVWXK5jM

>>124244183
Killy remembered the chick and the dog from the beginning when he was blown up by the Level 9, however many centuries or millennia later.

>>124242474
Oh yeah, I know that reaction.

>>124234209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5TOkFvcQmg

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>>124240657
I'm using Abara colored pages on my phone since I read it.

>>124234209
I was listening to this last time:
https://youtu.be/nHa8VmICVHI

Its nice to see a Blame! thread this big

>>124243895
>that Cibo
This is the best Blame! thread we've had in a long time.

>>124247287
I just wish that that Dutch forum wasn't so dead. They had quite a bit of good discussion and theories.

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>>124246790
>have this as my phone background for a month
>just realized the tentacles are penises when i opened it to post here

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>>124247287
Thiiiis big.

>>124211886
> Blame
> Read
You mean look at.

>>124248224
no

>>124248281
So what did you read ? There's barely a word every 12 pages.

>>124248224
How original, no one said it in this thread before.

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>>124248352

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>>124248352
You are too optimistic.

>>124248352
After the third volume the story really picks up for about 6 volumes and then it turns in to a picture book again. The amount of dialog is directly related to how many people are around Killy.

>>124248434
But Cibo, Dhomo and Iko did most of the talking in volume 8. See >>124248449
Killy is essentially just a giant battery for the GBE so there isn't any reason for him to say more than is necessary to complete his mission. Plus everyone he meets ends up dead so there isn't any point in being too friendly.

>>124212688
Does someone know if I can just order them through amazon to get a chance to win?
Or is it limited to other stores?

>>124248705
Each volume will be bundled with some kind of card, I presume. You'll fill them and then send to Japan.

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>>124217778
>in highschool
>reading Blame in art class because Weeaboo
>weeb girl sitting next to me
>"You've been through maybe 3 chapters and no one has said anything. Do people ever speak in this manga?"
>"S-sure they do!"
>this is the next page
>"SEU, LET US FIGHT!"
>battle commences
>mfw

I mean, that's the whole point of Blame, is that the story is told through the imagery and the action, rather than expository dialogue, but still. That fucking timing.

>>124221639
Doesn't seem like she reciprocated though

>>124241586
The whole final volume is really when the series is at its best.

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>>124249820
Of course not. Silly Cones hate everything that isn't a Silly Cone. She takes advantage of it though. In the second panel on this page I think that look means she knows he won't kill her.

>>124249981
Ah, I see.

Makes sense.

I always liked that guy and the ghost. They were pretty bro even when they were way out of their depth.

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I wish we could have had one more chapter. Cibo and Sanakan's lesbian brainmeld love-child looks cute.

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>>124216996
This spread right here, and the ensuing asskicking Killy received, probably make up my favorite moment of Blame!

That page where she goes all moonlight butterfly when they think she's dead is pretty amazing too.

>>124250070
Read the first few chapters again and pretend it's the epilogue

>>124234209
Gridlock - Trace was once recommended to me in some thread on /mu/.

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>>124239133
Reminds me of the music in the monochrome world of Yume Nikki.

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>>124234209
>nobody has posted Ice Ages yet
Come on you plebs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbT7dQIhqVE

God Module is gud too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA4dlmG5VJE

Godspeed You! Black Emperor is gud for a nice relaxing readthrough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw6zTAKWGeo

>>124241586
I now realzie I really need to re-read this series to catch things I might have missed first time.

>>124250070
>Playford
I want a Playford Tech Jacket, Nihei. Make it happen.

>>124251568
That entire outfit would make really neat motorcycling gear. Nihei is in to fashion design too. Maybe if he makes enough shekels from Sidonia he will make our dreams come true.

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Best Nihei thread we've had in quite some time.
Glad to see my favourite series still live on.

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>>124251646
>Playford Jacket from BLAME!
>Bike Frame and other gear from Biomega
>Seii's Helmet from Sidonia
I would happily turn my throttle 360-degrees, pop the clutch and turn myself into a ball of fire.

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>>124251812
You can thank sidonia for bringing in new people to read Nihei's older works.

pls don't kill me, I'm one of them.