What they will become of Hachiman in the future as a wife, and a mother to their children? Let's make a reasonable guess based on their actual characters in the series
>excellent lifetime partner who can together have successful life
>strict but responsible mother who can raise their children to be respectable members of society
>charming wife who can make happy fulfilling family life
>kind and charming mother whose children will also have many friends
gives no shit about family and not even at home all the time, probably cheating 24/7
cold neglecting mother whose children will never fully grow to be stable adults
Wait who is this now again?
I still don't get her underwear
That's not how blankets work ladies!
she doesn't realize it but she's taking after 8man's methods really fast
I like to think that beyond all the sophistry and grand ideals running in her head that the base reason she didn't approve of 8man's solution to the problem was pretty simple: she was concerned like Yui was
8man is actually damned handsome
The sex machine
For the question from the other thread
I'd marry Miura
Have an affair with Iroha
OP confirmed to be best girl hater.
>strict but responsible mother who can raise their children to be respectable members of society
She can barely fit in society herself, same goes for 8man.
>charming wife who can make happy fulfilling family life
I can see this happening but she still is a slut.
Why would she cheat?
Her dream is to be a stay home house wife.
I just can't get it, why are they still mad at him and things are awkward? I thought it was because they don't like it when he hurts himself but that's no reason to be mad and besides, some Yuifags seems to think Yui was going to confess or some bullshit and he ruined it. The anime isn't fun anymore, it's just passive aggressive melodrama now.
I'm glad the majority agrees that Yui should win.
Hikki needs to go to sensei and tell her he wants out of the club. Solves everything.
Take place in the same season, winter.
We are entering February now in the novel so winter isn't over yet. FEEL staff might have gotten wind of the ending from the author and add it to foreshadow the drama that is to come.
It's not worth taking the time to talk against bait material.
Yukino is autistic, we all know that.
Yui is so dense that even a blackhole would fear her, we all also know that.
Iroha wears a mask to everyone but to 8man, we know that too.
You need some love, nigga.
Why does that bitch Isshiki get so much screentime?
>“Alright, I’ll be heading back to class now.”
>“Sure. I’ll see you later, then.”
>Together with her brief response, she lifted her hand just a little bit and shook it as helplessly as ever. I nodded to her and placed my hand on the door of the infirmary.
>The door then shook. I opened the door, wondering where exactly the wind was coming in from, and a person was standing in front of me.
>“Whoa… freaked me out there…”
>My chest thumped from the sudden appearance of a figure and I suppressed it. The person in front of me was Yuigahama Yui and her expression was stiff as well, stumbling with her words.
You read this and you think everything is going to be fine?
Yui is jelly as fuck.
>feeds her kids junk food and is out in the bar 24/7.
>loyal perfect wife who will bring them up to be the perfect children.
Not the next volume for sure. I'm guessing we'll go for at least 3-4 more volumes, seeing as almost nothing relevant happened in volume 10.
Well except for yukimom and hayato's career shit. That's pretty little. I guess watari had to slow it down since the volumes before had a lot of things happenning.
Do you think she will banter her father, just like her mother does?
if 8man fixes yukino's issues for her then that totally negates yukino's ideals about self-improvement, and making yukino simply dependent on him. That's unhealthy as fuck
Sensei was clearly hoping that 8man and yukino would fix each other's flaws, it can't be that onesided
Can someone like seriously explain to me what is wrong with 8man methods and all this drama? I thought they were mad that he is always hurt in the process of helping others? Why is that a reason to act like a dick to him? To make things even harder?
She sound the same as the product placement pet bottle.
Yea this is the thing i'm really expecting to see. For her final development she needs to nake her own decisions.
And as for 8man he really can;t do anything major with the family issues, at most he'll probably just give Yukino some Sensei--tier advice.
>thumbnail is the best girl from GJ-bu
It is a sign.
w-what a loser.
This is what i do every night, waiting for spyro's updates instead
8man doesn't have any problems to begin with. He was drafted to the club and he is servicing accordingly to the duties of the club.
With how other characters are acting that forces 8man hand. Of course it is going to be one sided.
>call me later okay~♥
>wait a day so as to not seem desperate
>not once but Five times gotten
In retrospect I find it all amusing now. It's given me a fresh look at the ladies.
I try to like you, Yui. It's just that you remind me too much of those airheaded bimbos in school that say, "Like" and "OMG" way too much and can only talk about drama, gossip or what shit show they saw on TV last night.
I want a cute imouto that would listen to my problems too.
His problems he already coped with his own mechanism. He learned from them and carried on.
Others may not accept his choices of coping with them though. He is scarred by them but they are not consuming him.
What is exacerbating the problem is the club itself. The club is dedicated to fixing problems of students. The students however want problems fixed so that everyone is happy.
8man knowing how this is bs. He chooses to be the scapegoat so that others can live in their bubble. It solves the problem but it damages his already set pariah status.
If he wasn't recruited for the club, he wouldn't be known as the guy who ruined the School Festival, or scare little children, or become tobe's misconception of a rival.
I wanna kill this fucking cunt.
There's a guy in my class that is literally the same as him. Popular, good talking with people, everyone likes him and they actually look alike.
But the worst is
I like him as well.
Every school has that guy. Not every school has a motherly lambo
>Oregairu Volume 9
Are you guys ready? ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FUCKING TEENAGE DRAMA?!
You'll want to kill him even more next week.
I don't get the hate. He and Haruno did nothing wrong. 8man needs to speak up against orimoto. Thoughtless teasing is a normal occurrence, most people don't realize that they are hurtful. Sauce is me.
I am unsure what you are getting at but.
He wasn't asked to do so personally but as duty of the club he was drafted for.
He gets results for the club. People hate his answers but they still come to him because it works. If people had their own answers why bother asking the club?
No. I can't listen Linkin Park to that.
Volume 9 is more of a Deathcab for Cutie volume.
>you are now manually aware you're reading about the school life of japanese hipster emokids
but senpai convinced me to win
Not a Yuifag yet she was cute in this episode while she may not understand the Hachikino tension, I like how Yui was worried for Hachiman when they both was walking in the hallway, she had a pleadingly look of desperation, like she was thinking "Please, don't go. Stay." It is good to see another layer of Yui being peel'd off gradually.
Except you have to go a little deeper here. He wasn't happy with the way he was before because why else would he even go to the club, or put himself on the line for any of those things?
He mentions in S1 a throwaway line about when girls REALLY don't want to do something, there's no grumbling or pussyfooting around, it's just the flat blank stare of "fuck off". If he really didn't want on some level to take part in the whole companionship and helping others and people he could talk to part of the club, he would've just told sensei to fuck off and we'd never have had a story.
Not to mention Komachi's right when she says any time he's depressed or lying to himself he goes on grand speeches about humanity and society in order to ignore the real problem. Any time he talks about the old days before the service club he goes on giant dumb rants about being a bear and how everything is wrong with the world.
A lot of what's interesting about this show is finding out where 8man is lying to himself.
Use this as an excuse to get senpai's full atention.
also crashing that service club with no survivors
The one and only.
>Crashing this 8manbowl...with no survivors!
>No, Yui-senpai! They expect one of us in the wreckage!
>Yes...the fire rises
>Now is not the time to fear; that comes later
>the anime lacks lots of fucking emotions.
Do you really want a good depiction of teenage angst?
>Hayato to 8man : You want someone to save you
Best ending is everyone gets a good chunk of character development, they have a nice heartfelt talk right after graduation thanking each other for helping them through their teenage bullshit, and then they all go their separate ways.
and then sensei jumps 8man in the parking lot for some long-awaited desperate rough sex
The animation lacks something which you would gradually see in other animu. This one seems just plain drawn without any impact at all. I hated the whole komachi scene (especially since her voice has been changed) where there was a huge lack of emotions.
>haruno loves her little sister more than anything in the world
>she's the most perceptive character in the novels
>she's well aware that most of her sister's pain comes from trying to compare herself to haruno
>this is why she's wants her to do things like become student council president, because that would be a decision she made on her own not in order to chase after haruno's coattails
>haruno is very fond of 8man because she knows he's close to yukino
>at the very least he can make yukino happy and at best serve as a bridge to mend her relationship with her sister
haruno acts the way she does because
>all of the expectations yukino has are multiplied 10 fold for haruno
>her entire life is boring tedium
>the one person who gave her fulfillment now treats her coldly
>she feels lonely and helpless
tl;dr haruno a good nee-san, she dindu nuffin
Not that she goes to monotone mode, but the whole drama build up in the animation was horrible.
You couldn't actually feel any hatred or anything similar coming to it. While in the LN you could, here it was like "oh, ok it happened lol"
She's like Yukino in her early years, being bullied for being better.
And that's why she has to win.
It should really have given you a fresh look at yourself. This is why autists like you are destined to be miserable their entire lives. When something bad happens you never take responsibility, always finding some excuse as to why its not your fault.
And what about her actions this episode?
Her perceptives and knowledge on 8man should have triggered that orimoto was something 8man didn't want to deal with, especially when she said that he confessed to her before.
Yet she set up the whole thing afterwards.
She a cunt men.
I don't know about you faggots, but I can't wait to have this scene animated (PLEASE FEEEEEEL)
>“You’re pretty amazing.”
>The only thing I could say was this much. When I did, Isshiki looked at me with moist, upturn eyes.
>“It’s all your fault senpai that I turned out this way.”
>“…No, that’s true for the issue with the presidency, but for other things…”
>But without listening to the end, Isshiki moved her face closer and whispered into my ears.
>“Please take responsibility, okay?”
>And then, my junior made an impish smile.
She knows nothing about Orimoto though. The whole thing about the setup was to bait Yukino.
Always remember that all her actions are for Yukino. She doesn't care about anybody else.
>ugly 8man family traits on display
Now, she's really desirable.
Superior Yukinoshita genes.
she spoke to her because she's close to 8man and yukinon. That's it.
Haruno is watari's self insert. She's been setting everything up without getting directly involved to develop yukinoshita by controlling the people around her.
Yes i made that up.
This bitch is seriously annoying, why do people like her again?
She wants to kill al the fun in the series by killing the cynic 8man
She knows hachiman enough to know something was up with him when orimoto appeared.
Also, you forgot how orimoto was VERY conscending to 8man during the initial conversation in the cafe.
Haruno thought it was interesting and wanted more.
She's a cunt.
Nigga you're late.
>People still expect nice things to happen
>They can't see 8man will suffer his greatest blowout ever because of Iroha
It has happened before and it will happen again. Except this time 8man might not make it back in one piece.
Bait, why? Explain to me what fun would the series be if 8man was a normalfag that believed in the power of love?
Seriously stop using buzzwords when you don't even know what they mean
Except Sensei is a bitch too, and if he would ever say something like that to her she would just beat the shit of him and threaten him again with failing a year. He's basically a prisoner. With Stockholm's Syndrome.
The real joke here is that people expect a harem LN to end before hell freezes over.
I can't into relationships and I have no fucking idea why Yukinon and Yui were and still mad at 8man for 2 weeks. From my point he did nothing wrong and everything resulted itself. I also don't their stupid crap about superficial something.
>What I wished for probably wasn’t a relationship that was conventional in society. It was probably something where you dragged down the hand you took along with you to the sea bed. It was a terribly self-centered sentiment.
foreshadowing that 8man wants a threesome end?
>“There’s no way I wouldn’t be moved after I saw that.”
>When I asked her, Isshiki corrected her posture seriously and sat up straight. She slowly looked at my eyes and spoke.
>“…I’m starting to want something genuine too.”
she is probably genuinely interested in orimoto because the idea of 8man liking someone is so far out of left field
she also defended him, though it may not seem like it
haruno doesn't react to things directly she's misdirects them
so when orimoto says "no way, she's out of your league right?" haruno goes into the spiel about "what are you to me? a little brother? why don't we just go with girlfriend"
that's haruno's way of saying "this person actually is important to me, so kindly fuck off"
For no good reason, Hachiman is always right but people around him get mad because he does things right from his cynical POV.
They're just butthurt that their way doesn't give results
She won't. She might not be the one who will directly destroy him, but she will be heavily involved. Either way, it will happen through her and because of her.
There is no healing to come from this. Only suffering and pain.
Guys I just read chapter 7, volume 8. http://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=My_youth_romantic_comedy_is_wrong_as_I_expected_v8_Chapter_7
I'm fucking crying with tears of joy. For anyone that didnt know that is the part where Komachi reconciled with Hikki.
i can't wait for the destinyland deito
if you cried bitch tears at the komachi reconciliation then yukino deredere will absolutely destroy your heart
it's ok, iroha points can be exchanged for komachi points and vice versa
Finally I have met my soulmate. She is the litterally only one normal person among all the girls in that title. She doesn't deserve shit Hayama did to her.
Nope. We move into Yukinoshit family issues, 8man resolves it without getting horribly raped, 8man's finest hour etc, and then it's Irohacentric return to annihilation resulting in either Yukino/Yui end or the better option which is Totsuka end.
Nah, I think he suffered more being ignored.
Trust me, I got 2 siblings, and when we still lived together and 1 of us got troubles, the other 2 would pester him/her to speak because we knew that just talking about the problem would've been a big help.
the christmas party is a pretty good continuation of the birthday party in terms of fleshing out their relationships
it comes after volume 9 too so they're way more open with each other this time around
Orimoto is just normal. Why should she pity such a looser as Hikigaya? It's more honest and rightful way not to pretend that shit is not stinks, but to say clarly "You are stinky shit", and then probably boy may changes.
But it kind of is just like laughing how she just rejected him is pretty mean.
If you dislike someone you just kind of talk awkwardly not just being a straight up bitch.
I'm not saying she's wrong it's just that her behavior isn't normal.
Or what the fuck do i know i've always had friends and shit, but i know that if you hated someone you didn't really talk like she does.
But the thing i what i mean is if you know that 8man didn't take it well being rejected and probably hurt him like she probably knew, you wouldn't just giggle like it's nothing unless you're trying to be mean.
Even though it happend long ago.
But that's how i think it would be in
real lifewhich this isn't.
Well, trace of your thoughs is correct. But could you put yourself in Kaori's shoes? Why should she think about how Hikigaya felt about all of this? Naturally she just presumed that he is free from those memories just like herself, she doesn't care about him, so in turn she probably thinks that he doesn't care about her either.
And even if she may think that he was hurt, why should she cares about some person who is not even her friend?
That is what I mean when talking about "normal". Naturally, people doesn't care about people they really don't care about, lol.
No, she is just filthy intruder. I don't know why the two remaining girls won't use some cheap girlish tricks to drove her out. Well, probably they just doesn't care if she after 8man or not. In the end they both have each other.
I guess you're right but
>why should she care about some person who is not even her friend?
I mean not being a bitch isn't hard, just act polite at least.
But i agree with you.
>Naturally, people doesn't care about people they really don't care about
I mean even though i usually do not really care about some people but i wouldn't act like she did even if i didn't give a fuck.
But that's just me.
>Can someone like seriously explain to me what is wrong with 8man methods and all this drama?
8man methods like the fake confession is only a temporary solution as he avoid the situation, I can't recollect Yukino words yet I believe that is what she said.
Whereas Yukino methods are long term solutions.
>I thought they were mad that he is always hurt in the process of helping others?
Sure, Sensei and Yui are concerned yet with Yukino that is ambiguous, in my eyes.
>Why is that a reason to act like a dick to him?
8man will eventually lose everyone and he'll continue to be a perpetual loner as he make everyone he helps hate me so he doesn't get hurt himself. And the fact, he want to act normal as if nothing happen but Yukino resent superficiality, friends and relationships that are for show.
>In the end they both have each other
Yeah they do.
There's nothing wrong with them other than the fact that he's hurting himself in the process, that's why Yukino and Yui are upset with him.
It annoyed me that Sensei treated them all as pretty equal in the club though, Yukino has been completely useless the entire show and I hope that's mentioned even once.
Did anyone else prefer the opening animation from ep 1 rather than the current one?
Why is Yanagi so based?
Iroha is telling me that you should translate Qualidea instead of that Frog.
Juggling multiple series is impossible for me. After Oregairu's done, I need to head into the mountains to refine my moonspeak for a year or so.
all her plans until volume 9 tend to backfire iirc
Granted 8man's solutions are hit or miss too. It worked with Saki and Sagami, but Rumi backfired horribly and required Yukino fixing the volume 9 case for 8man to finally help Rumi out
I'm really grateful for your work,
If it weren't for you I wouldn't have been able to find such perfection in yukino.
You're great for doing this, why haven't you put something like a ''donate'' option on your blog? I'd like to contribute.
So, episodes 1 and 2 of season 2 were fucking garbage. I made a point to explicitly list their fuckton of faults in their threads. Hell, to the point I got warned for rule #6 by some butthurt mod in episode 1.
But I just finished episode 3 and, holy fuck, how can the quality of the direction jump so much? The character design was still terrible for the show, but other than that, it was fantastic. It was very similar to the best episodes in S1.
The cringing was everpresent. The characters were properly explored. The direction added the necessary nuances to make the cynicism inherent to the novel a clear aspect of the episode. It was OreGaIru, like it should be.
Why couldn't they do the same for episode 2?
Also, what was the reason for such a leap in direction quality? The episode director?
Am I supposed to be treating her as if she's performing equally to Hachiman then? I'm okay with them being mad at him because I can see why his behaviour would upset you, but I'm getting tired of everyone acting like their methods are equal.
I mean I enjoy seeing Hachiman suffer, but I'd rather he not be the only one to get called out on his shit.
Exactly, it's not even close.
sensei's evaluation of them in ep 3 this season is pretty spot-on, actually. In terms of results 8man has done more but most of his solutions are temporary and fail to consider long-term effects. While Yukino's plans are either impractical or take a long while to kick in, they (ideally) should help the person out in the long run.
The only cases where 8man undoubtedly succeeds are the ones where he takes steps to ensure the person will succeed in the long term. That's what, the Saki case, possibly the Sagami case? I'm still not sure if the Hayama case counts, although technically he achieves the real objective of getting Miura a bit closer to Hayama
>boo hoo my beautiful confession scene
It was shit. Shit. And don't get me started on the character design.
I said it last week and I'll say it again: In episodes 1 and 2, Feel had turned OreGaIru into just another run-off-the-mill harem with their garbage direction that doesn't consider the important negative nuances in the light novel, unlike S1.
But they did a fantastic job with episode 3. It was like watching an episode of S1, but with Index character designs.
>what was the reason
episode 3 marks the start of a new arc, where everything begins to fall apart for the club, along with the sound of incoming suffering train.
>why is it that episode 1 and 2 sucked while ep 3 is good?
You people just enjoy the suffering of poor 8man, aren't you? You should feel ashamed.
>You people just enjoy the suffering of poor 8man, aren't you?
Well, OreGaIru HAS to be cringy. The LN is constantly cringy. S1 was constantly cringy too. But the first two episodes of s2 were not cringy even though they were based on one of the most cringiest LN volumes.
Episode 3 adapted the most emotion-filled scenes in the best way possible. With the corerct camera angles showing the correct expressions. The cynicism. The spaghetti. Something that episodes 1 and 2 absolutely lacked.
It was a superb adaptation, again, very reminiscent of s1. If only the character design wasn't so generic...
What you were actually whining about.
>Who are you quoting?
As of the end of vol 10, it's pretty clear that Yukino is in love with 8man but she's too autistic to realise that.
They have a great scene together in the nurse office and stuff. However we later find out that Yukino is not really trusting 8man, but rather doing something worse - as stated by Haruno in the end of the volume.
That's pretty much it, oh and Hayama is a cunt.
Which part of >>124159611 made you think someone is interested in your lovely opinions you absolute fucking retard?
Which part of that post in any way implies that poster liked it and the beautiful confession scene too?
>If only the character design wasn't so generic...
What did you expect from the guy who did pic related?
>no one has any idea why you're so buttblasted
I was buttblasted during episodes 1 and 2 because Feel had ruined a pretty nice, original show with extremely lackluster direction. Seriously, the confession scene was butchered to the point it felt like harem anime #45709654 instead of OreGaIru. And something that really annoyed me last week was how many newfags were praising it so much when it was simply so generic, while it ruined the source so much.
But yeah, I went in depth with that subject last week, so let's drop it. After all, it looks like they're back on track after this episode.
>all you've done is agree with yourself
Only ONE counterargument has been given to me ITT: this one >>124159872
Anything else has been whining (hurr blogging, hurr ribbit, hurr who are you quoting, hurr caps lock)
What I meant, really, was "if only the character design was still the same as S1..."
>hurr no discussion allowed in my discussion board
gb2/your usual general thread/. k-on? Strike Witches? Naruto? Where do you hail from?
Your discussion looks like this so far:
>You: opinion opinion
>You: >>Poster2 Opinion opinion opinion you are so right, me
>You: >>Poster3 opinion opinion opinion sore butt opinion opinion
If this is a discussion to you then I really have no words.
Trust is not a bad thing, I just messed up my wording.
Most likely that she is straight up relying on him for things, instead of trusting him or dealing with her problems her own way.
Both Yui and Yukino still don't understand shit about the 8man. They've already seen numerous times how he is still affected by past traumas, like he's an army vet or something. It's so obvious that what he did at the end of episode 2/novel 7 is not something he pondered about or planned, it was something random and dictated by emotions. He didn't all of that for Hayama's group or Ebina or Tobe, he did that because he saw himself in Tobe, and he acted on that, trying to stop something that already happened to happen yet again. Fuck, at least Yukino should've perceived something, since he did the same thing for her just a few weeks before. I thought they were on the same wavelength, but they're not. That's why since volume 9 all my hopes are focused only on Iroha.
Faggots with shit taste that don't like to hear about people disliking the generic first two episodes of this season, because that would reinforce the fact that they have shit taste, that they like generic garbage. So they start using non-sequitors.
Though I guess it's so prevalent due to daytime /a/. It was still a bit prevalent in the night-time OreGaIru threads I went to during the last two weeks, but I went to bed early yesterday, so it can't be helped.
I am replying just to see what kind of a secret hidden message you manage to find in this post.
Sure Tobe's the main reason but he'a not all of it. He was beginning to get comfortable with the club so he sympathized with their (hayama, ebina, miura) wish to preserve theirs. He felt sorry for Tobe for being unaware of what he was losing.
Yes, Iroha has all my hopes too
Nobody cares about the anime artstyle or direction when we're just waiting for spoilers and Spyro's translations
Hardly, the real discussion is only for the story and 8man in general, everybody already know LN adaptations are shit especially if its JC Staff
Are, are you seriously replying to yourself? I mean having a one-sided conversation where you were literally imagining somebody was arguing with you was pathetic enough.
But are you legit posting a comment praising yourself, and replying to it to make it look like someone other than yourself agrees with you?
Wow. This is absolutely amazing , I think we just found a person who somehow went below the bottom of the barrel on /a/. This would be pretty funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
Other than Remi a best, I'm drawing a blank.
There's at least me and another anon who do ITT.
Though yeah, I guess nighttime /a/ is more receptive to discussing criticism.
>Yes, Iroha has all my hopes too
>That's why since volume 9 all my hopes are focused only on Iroha.
Amen bros, welcome aboard.
Could be worse, 8man could have the same fate of Regis Nex or that Wolf Guy.
That's why, its redundant to talk about adaptation, cause nobody is interested, we just care about 8man's suffering and our ships
>buzzwords like soul
So you WERE here last week.
Also, soul is not a buzzword when used in the context of capturing the author's intentions.
You wouldn't say the NHK anime really captured the novel's soul, would you?
In the same way, episodes 1 and 2 of s2 didn't capture the soul of the LN's volume 7, but episode 3 certainly did capture the soul of the LN, in the same way S1 did.
If you can tell me how, in that context, the word "soul" is a buzzword, you're a miracle worker.
>best girl hater
With her stare still directed at the window, Isshiki spoke while looking down on the city.
“…I mean, what else could I do? I was all excited and stuff.”
“That’s surprising. I thought you weren’t the type of person to get pushed around by the atmosphere like that.”
When I told her, Isshiki’s face that was reflected on the window turned into a small smile.
“I’m surprised too. I thought it was going to be a lot stiffer too.”
“…Yeah, pretending to have a mind full of love makes you pretty clever or something.”
As I tried to continue talking, Isshiki suddenly turned her head and interrupted me.
“I wasn’t talking about myself… I was talking about senpai.”
I'm neither >>124160386 nor >>124159872
So yeah, at least two of us. But seriously, can you people discuss anything in any way other than using non-sequitors?
I guess that's a no. You people can't discuss anything in any way other than using non-sequitors. So you win, I'm closing the thread.
Seriously, I only wanted to celebrate because I liked the latest episode so much - specially because I hated the previous 2 so much...
Can't be helped.
>Are you dating anyone senpai?
The "ah!" sound she made at the end of Ep 3 sounded more natural imo. So maybe once we get more scenes with 8man and her alone we'll hear her real voice.
If that's how they are going about it though.
Feel ruined her, just like they did with Yukino.
Now nobody will want her - even moreso than before.
Yup suffering is certain. While I can still like Iroha despite sucking Hayato's D I think she's just a trigger for Yui and Yukino, and when the things start to get busy, one of them is dying for sure. I'm bookmarking this post number, gonna bring it back in few years.
I kind of meant as more than just a plot device. Two-thirds of the cast are one note characters that served the exact same role you described. Is she basically never going to be any more important than the trap or the Otaku or the delinquent looking girl?