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>rewatching Melancholy from scratch in preparation for Dis of Nagato
>get to the part where Haruhi abuses the shit out of Mikuru during their filming
Holy shit, how did I forget about it? Bitch spends the entire episode being spiteful over something menial and intentionally causing Mikuru actual physical trauma in the bulliest way possible. I don't think the character will ever recover for me. Whats even weirder is how the show just brushes it in the next episode like nothing happened.
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>>123786701
Fuck off, she changed after Sigh. Kyoani just fucked up the order.
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>>123786701
>I don't think the character will ever recover for me.
I hope you're watching in chronological order.
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>>123786701
>brushes it in the next episode like nothing happened.
That's because Kyoani had to do their wacky artistic order in S1, so you never got to truly see her character develop.
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>>123786929
You don't "change" something like that. Charles Manson wouldn't "change" after helping old lady to cross a road once
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>tfw you finally took the time to figure out what they call this expression
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>>123787149
It's called character development, if you haven't noticed Kyon mellowed Haruhi out throughout the series.
Even more so in the novels.
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Mikuru is built for abuse.
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>>123787206
"acting like a retard" ?
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>>123786701
She beats Mikuru through the whole arc. Kyon only gets mad when he's about to get NTR'd
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>>123787619
Rude.
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>>123787149
You sure are retarded.
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>>123786929
>sigh
Fuck off.
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>>123787786
Kyon only thinks with his dick.
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>>123786701
She made her drink a diluted glass of very, very light alcohol. Then she gave her light taps on the head.
I'm not saying what she did was ok, but it was more about belittling other people for some kind of twisted instinctive pleasure than trying to harm them. That's the whole point of Sigh, they all let her run wild without opposing her at all, so she started to enjoy playing the role of a God, creating a fictional universe and having lackeys to do everything for her.
Kyon standing up to her made her reconsider all of that.
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>>123788149
You're forgetting
>starts screaming and shaking emotionally fragile girl for not being able to shoot lazors
>has Mikuru thrown in a shit-filled water because she's cunt-jelly
That shit's not okay
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>>123786701
Haruhi is best girl
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>>123788561
this
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It was a low-point in the writing.

Done right, it would have been passable, but it passed too many squick filters.

And then nothing happened because of it.
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>>123788519
>talks too loud
>record a scene where the heroine is thrown in the river to make the movie more intense
I'm ok with this. At least, it's not worse than screaming "Mikuru is my toy". She changed a lot after that though.
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>>123786701
>rewatching Melancholy from scratch in preparation for Dis of Nagato
Hohoho
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>Acts like a bitch
>"You just don't know her like I do she's changed I swear!"
Literally beaten wife syndrome. End yourselves, Haruhifags.
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>>123786701
This is why you don't watch broadcast order, kids.
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>>123789025
Nah, you're just a cunt.
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>>123789025
>Missing the entire point of literally everyones arguments in this thread.
Good job.

>>123789040
>>123786929
>>123787081
>>123787105
Do you seriously have problems to understand the character developement just because it isn't in chronological order? Literally all you need to do is remember what happened in previous episodes. How can that be to difficult for anyone?
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>>123789025
>people can't make mistakes
Sighs was like, 8 books ago.
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The whole anime is built on a creepy foundation. The world is held hostage by a little not-so-sane girl with constant mood swings. Shit, entire planet gets fucked up if she's slightly bored, how terrifying is this?
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>>123786701
>I don't think the character will ever recover for me.
>how did I forget about it
Well, you forgot about it the first time, you'll forget again probably.
Not disagreeing though. Can't stand Haruhi, and only really liked Disappearance which she wasn't even in much.
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>>123789327
The point is that she grows up so she doesn't have to hold the world hostage anymore.
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>>123789277
Its funny because the '09 broadcast, which had the Sigh arc, was in chronological order.
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>>123788039
What joke was never funny.
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>>123789277
This is neo-/a/. Never overestimate it.
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>>123789327
That's just Koizumi's theory. It hasn't been proved that she actually can rewrite the entire world.
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>>123789277
Of course not, but the order in which you first consume something might change the impression you get from it.
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>>123788149
>Very, very light alcohol

Read the LN, bitch was giving her tequila.

Also she was ready to recreate the entire universe because she saw Mikuru and Kyon on the computer.

>>123788561
All SOS girls are a shit.
Tsuruya a best.
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>>123786701
It's also Muikuru's fault. She never said shit so Haruhi just went crazy with the bullying, I mean, Mikuru never complained when Haruhi made the president of the other club fondle Mikuru's breasts.
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>>123789549
>All SOS girls are a shit.
You're right.
Koizumi is the best girl
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>>123789620
She didn't complain because she liked it.
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>>123789620
>Haruhi made the president of the other club fondle Mikuru's breast
I find it odd /a/ never calls her on that. She was prepared to throw around false rape accusations to get her way. Anybody else and people would be screaming '"she's just like 3DPD" but Haruhi for some reason gets a pass.
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>>123789764
For the most part, cancer like that isn't aware of things that aired more than 3 or 4 years ago.
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>>123789764
It was more comedic than serious, and happened early in the show.
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>>123789764
Most /v/irgins would happily give up their gaming rig to touch attractive female's breast for a second, so it's all good
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>>123790104
Speak for yourself.
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Haruhi is a psychopathic monster and anyone who defends her (as she appears in the anime at least) is a lunatic.
She is the antagonist. She sees everyone else as tools for her own amusement and will gladly manipulate and cheat her way into getting whatever she wants, and she always gets what she wants by nature of the universe she inhabits. Watching the anime is unbelievably frustrating because she never gets what she deserves.
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>>123790104
Hah, if you actually think that then you don't know gamers.
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I found the parts where she tries to dress Mikuru especially disturbing. Mikuru is crying and begging for her to stop and is defenseless against her and Haruhi just doesn't give a fuck. If you took out the comedic SoL music from those scenes and replaced it with a sickening droning soundtrack it could legitimately pass as jarring and dark.
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>>123790410
Get the fuck out with your shitty fan fiction.
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Good thing I never liked Moeblob Mikuru

Future Mikuru>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Moeblob Mikuru>>>Tsuruya
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>>123790427
She liked it in the end though.
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>>123790427
>if we took this scene out of context it would mean something completely different
ok
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>>123790427
Mikuru said she enjoyed it in the movie.
She's not "begging" she's just shy.
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>>123790410
Fuck off
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>>123789277
It's not that it's hard to understand, it's just easier to appreciate the development of all the characters, not just Haruhi, if you want it in 2009 broadcast order.
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>>123789277
I don't have problems, but obviously OP does.
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>>123790639
No one likes you, or your webms.
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>>123790594
I assumed she meant she enjoyed the dressing up but not necessarily having someone else dress her.
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Everyone in the SOS Brigade likes having to follow Haruhi everytime she has a stupid idea. One of the reasons most spectators think she's a bitch is because Kyon keeps criticizing her in his monologues, except he's not actually meaning it.
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>>123790809
Yeah, he can't reveal to anyone, not even to himself, taht he fucking love her for everything that she is. That's kinda cute.
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>>123789764
I don't give her bitchiness a pass, she was undoubtedly a bitch for most of their first year.

It's pretty stupid to think it makes her a bad character though. If anything, it makes her a great character because of how it ties into the premise of the show and allows her to develop in a natural way given that premise. It's part of the plot and her character development, and her personality makes complete sense if you actually pay attention. She changes after Sighs.
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>>123790809
Well he liked some of it but lines were certainly crossed like in OP. Later on though Haruhi does listen when he says stop.

I'm not sure about everybody else though, Nagato did go crazy after one one of Haruhi's games, Koizumi is practically a devoted fanatic and Asahina is a programmed doll.
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>>123791181
They're a big happy family.
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>>123791025
That's why Disappearance head step scene is so great.
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>>123791181
Haruhi pretty much always listens to Kyon. He's usually just too wishy washy to confront her though.

Also, its not like Kyon has much moral high ground when it comes to treating Mikuru properly. Especially throughout Sigh.
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>>123791181
Nagato likes hanging with the SOS Brigade she even makes a joke about Mikuru's "It's confidential" thing later. Koizumi is a fanatic but he enjoys SOS Brigade's antics the same way Kyon does, without the tsun act. Asahina has lot of pressure because of her job, but she grows as a character and her future self showed that she had good memories of her SOS Brigade days.
But yeah, they all suffered before this unity was achieved (E8, Sighs, Melancholy..)
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>>123791025
He's turbo tsundere.
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>>123791370
Mikuru's 'mistreatment' is a non-issue because she's a slut and likes it. There's no discussion to be had about whether it's right or wrong.
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>>123790809
>dat Yasumi
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>>123790809
Haruhi is Kyon's fantasy-sue girl, outspoken, adventurous, unruly.
Yuki is his moe preference for shyness.
Itsuki represents Kyon's gay side.
Mikuru represents Kyon's admiration for buxom breasts.

Just as god wished for.
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>>123791470
>Itsuki represents Kyon's gay side.

Truth. I didn't believe it until I read Snowy Mountain Syndrome.
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>>123791445
I want Yasumi to repair my computer. She probably could.
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>>123790330
This. I really had high hopes for this anime, but Haruhi made it nearly unwatchable.
I just wish Kyon or someone would beaten the shit out of her for all these these things she has done to everyone, even if it would destroy the universe.
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>>123791558
If you don't mind a ton of rainmeter themes and custom colors in your hardware.
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>>123791558
>2006 + 9
>still can't repair your own computer

You run a toaster, don't you?
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>>123791558
What volume does she appear in? I have the LNs but was holding off on reading them so I don't spoil myself on S3, but Yuki-chan has kind of dashed my hopes of it ever coming.
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>>123791695
The latest two/three. Guess when they came out.
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>Fujiwara as Viral
What the hell did the artist thought?

>>123791695
9
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>>123791695
Number 10
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>>123791734
>Guess when they came out.

Anon, if I wanted to be upset I'd be in the Yuki-chan thread.
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Haruhi was a shit anime and the only good part was when Kyon was about to btfo Haruhi with his fist.
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Aliens confirmed for spookiest and most dangerous faction.
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>>123791861
Except he didn't "btfo" her

Koizumi is such a fucking bro
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>Yukichan could have been this comfy
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>>123790704
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>>123791906
That's the HCD though. Separate entity from the DITE, who are scared of them
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>>123791984
>0:22
>"It's fucking shit!"
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>>123791861
>Haruhi was a shit anime

Somebody get this guy a Big Dawg picture.
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>>123792022
Aliens are still spooky.
>Kimidori barely gives a fuck about your life
>Asakura is holding you hostage as she fights an abomination
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Someday in the rain is the best episode in the history of anime
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>>123791396
Yeah, but it's a bit rare to have a male tsundere
Perhaps that's why he's so great.
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>>123792122
The best ending episode for sure.
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>>123791984
This webm is literally perfect. Good job, whoever made it.
>>123792122
That's not Live Alive.
Someday comes just behind though.
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>>123791861
There you go friend.

>>123792122
>not Live Alive
>not Melancholy VI
>not E8 8
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>>123791906
I was pretty disappointed when it was revealed that Kuyou only was together with Taniguchi because she confused him with Kyon. It would've been pretty nice if Taniguchi would've become for Kuyou something like what Kyon is for Nagato.
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>>123791861
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>>123792196
I gathered that Kuyoh still kinda liked him, but that might just be my imagination. Tanigawa tends to be very ambiguous anyway
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>>123792196
>implying she had emotions
>implying she's not just a monster
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>Haruhi develops from "borderline sociopath" to "bitch who occasionally displays kindness in order to appease the boy she likes"

Damn what a great person, 10/10 would waifu again.
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>>123792196
Taniguchi must be really desperate to ignore her inherent creepiness.
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>>123792504
Every fucking Haruhi thread. That's not what sociopathy/psycopathy means!
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>>123792344
That was my impression too. Even if Kuyou creep me out I found this rather cute of her.
I should stop drinking before going to /a/, I can't write without sticking the word "cute" everywhere.
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>>123792504
Do you really think she took care of sick Yuki to earn points with Kyon?
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>>123792504
You should watch the anime before browsing the threads.
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>>123792504
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>>123792344
Is there any sign for that? Even it's very implicit, because I don't remember anything.

>>123792441
At first Nagato had almost no emotions as well. And their actually signs of Kuyou having more emotions than Nagato had in the beginning, they are just even more different from human ones.
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>>123792504
I can't handle all this cherry-picking
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>>123792632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37FgTe4iucc
This episode was the shit.
S1 was so perfect.
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>>123792544
What happened to the date he had at the beginning of Disappearance? Did she just dump him at the end or was it Kuyoh?
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>>123792707
It was explicitly explained that it was Kuyoh.
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>>123792707
It was Kuyou.
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>>123792652
Nagato is a lot less creepy though. Kuyou actively tried killing people to get data, just like Asakura.
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>>123791695
>so I don't spoil myself on S3
Anon, please.
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>>123792669
Militaristic, upbeat, yet relaxed. Perfect music to hang around in a military base.
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>>123792806
Giving up is for cowards.
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>>123792806
Go read the novels, you pleb.
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>>123792550

By "sociopathy" I mean that she clearly and obviously disregards social norms and other people's opinions with no reservations whatsoever. Maybe it's more like narcissism or BPD, I'm not a psychologist.

>>123792583
>>123792596
>>123792632

Alright, I'll concede that some of her acts of kindness are just the vestiges of her conscience rather than for Kyon, but it's still a whole lot less than what an average person would do, and usually consists more of her showing mercy than being genuinely kind.
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>>123792799
Yes, but murderers can love people, too. In fact it is much more common than for a rational machine which Nagato was supposed to be in the beginning.
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>>123792841
>giving up is for cowards

Damn this hit hard.
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>>123792906
It's not psychology, it's just fucking English. Don't spout out words you do not know the meaning off.
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>>123792906
>but it's still a whole lot less than what an average person would do
In fact it is more, she just also demands a lot.
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>>123792938
>Kyuki

I never knew how much I needed this
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>>123792841
From a purely pragmatic viewpoint, giving up a fight you can't win gives you time to counterattack when they are at their weakest.
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>>123792905

I'm another anon, I only watched S1 back then when it was new, what is the place to go to retake this? Watch S1 again in the right order? reading the novels?
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>>123792906
She worried for half a day because she thought she didn't help some strangers well enough.
She spent half of her mountain travel home because she wanted to be 100% sure Nagato wouldn't catch a cold.
She really doesn't do anything wrong except in Sighs. In the end, all she wants is to have fun with people she likes and to take care of them, although she is pretty egotistical in the first arcs.
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>>123793082
Not being rude, but that's Kyonko. Your new is showing.
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>>123792989

sociopath (plural sociopaths)

A person with an antisocial personality disorder, exhibiting antisocial behavior that usually is the result of social and environmental factors in the person's early life.

Then wikipedia:

Antisocial (or dissocial) personality disorder is characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for, or violation of, the rights of others. There may be an impoverished moral sense or conscience and a history of crime, legal problems, and impulsive and aggressive behavior.

Aside from the crime(and she actually has committed crimes), it fits her to a T. Either way I was using the term colloquially, so please take your autism elsewhere.
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>>123792906
Did you watch and understand the show? The whole world unconsciously revolves around her, so she has been conveniently getting what she wants her entire life. Naturally, she grew up to be a self centered cunt who is inconsiderate of others. The series is partially about how the SOS Brigade and Kyon changes her.
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